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GOOD EVENING. IT IS 5:01 AND THIS MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES, CALLED BOARD MEETING, IS CALLED TO ORDER IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT WE HAVE TRUSTEE ZÁRATE, TRUSTEE LANDRUM, TRUSTEE MARKUM, TRUSTEE WEI AND TRUSTEE CUERO.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG OKAY, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR GRIEVANCE PER THE REQUEST OF OUR GRIEVANT, WE WILL BE MOVING FROM CLOSED SESSION TO OPEN SESSION.
THANK YOU. IT IS APRIL 9TH, 2026, AND IT IS 5:03 P.M.
IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE RECORD AN AUDIO RECORDING OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS BEING MADE.
THE FOLLOWING BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. CHUY ZÁRATE, AMBER LANDRUM, ALICIA MARKUM, MICHAEL WEI, AND FABIAN CUERO. DO WE EACH NEED TO SAY OUR NAMES IF WE'RE OPEN? FOR THE RECORD? I'LL DEFER TO BOARD COUNSEL. YES, PLEASE.
OKAY, I'LL START ON THIS END. CHUY ZÁRATE. AMBER LANDRUM, TRUSTEE.
HAFEDH AZAIEZ SUPERINTENDENT. TRUSTEE MARKUM.
TRUSTEE WEI. TRUSTEE FABIAN CUERO. DOCTOR NATALIE NICHOLS, SENIOR CHIEF. CYNTHIA HILL, GENERAL COUNSEL. I ALICIA MARKUM, BOARD PRESIDENT.
I AM ALICIA MARKUM, BOARD PRESIDENT A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
I WILL NOW INSTRUCT THE PARTIES REGARDING THE PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED IN THE LEVEL III GRIEVANCE PRESENTATION. THE GRIEVANT OR HER REPRESENTATIVE WILL PRESENT THE LEVEL III GRIEVANCE TO THE BOARD. I WILL ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS NOT TO INTERRUPT DURING THE PRESENTATION.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE NOT TO BE QUESTIONED.
I WILL ASK THE PARTIES TO PLEASE LIMIT YOUR PRESENTATIONS TO TEN MINUTES FOR EACH SIDE.
FINALLY, I CAUTION THE PARTIES THAT THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER ONLY THOSE ISSUES IN DOCUMENTS INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS SUBMITTED BY THE PARTIES, WHICH WERE SENT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR REVIEW.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CONDUCT OF THE HEARING? I HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE BROUGHT EXHIBITS THAT WERE TURNED IN YESTERDAY, BUT I WAS TOLD THEY WEREN'T I'M SORRY, MISS, I. MS. LYONS, I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE A HEARING DISABILITY.
YES MOVE IT JUST CLOSER TO YOU IF YOU NEED TO SIT BACK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
JUST SOMEHOW MOVE IT CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH AND THEN WE CAN BOTH WORK THROUGH OUR [LAUGHTER].
SOUNDS GOOD. PERFECT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, I SUBMITTED AN EXHIBIT 9 IN ADVANCE YESTERDAY AND FOLLOWED UP THIS MORNING, AND I WAS INFORMED THAT THE PACKETS HAD ALREADY BEEN DELIVERED. AND I BROUGHT COPIES TODAY SO THE BOARD CAN HAVE ACCESS TO MY 9TH EXHIBIT.
THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. YOU CAN GIVE THEM TO OUR BOARD COUNSEL, AND SHE'LL PASS THEM OUT TO US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THE TIME, YOU DO HAVE TEN MINUTES, BUT YOU CAN DIVIDE THAT.
AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN ALSO NOW THAT WE ARE IN OPEN PER YOUR REQUEST, JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU CANNOT GIVE ANY IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT STUDENTS OR PERSONNEL. AND IF YOU DO FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN GO INTO CLOSED AND DISCUSS THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY. THE GRIEVANT MAY NOW PRESENT THE LEVEL III GRIEVANCE.
GOOD EVENING. THIS LEVEL III APPEAL CONCERNS THE ACCURACY AND COMPLETENESS OF THE LEVEL II DECISION.
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AND FAILS TO ISSUE DETERMINATION ON SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED AND PRESERVED IN THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.TODAY, I WILL WALK THROUGH THESE ISSUES USING THE ACTUAL RECORDS.
THE LEVEL II DECISION SAYS I CONFIRMED I WAS RECEIVING COMMUNICATION.
I DID NOT SAY THAT. THIS IS WHAT I WAS GIVEN.
EXHIBIT B AND EXHIBIT C. THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY EXISTS. EXHIBIT E. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
THE ONE PAGE REPORT SUBMIT THE DETAILED DOMAIN SCORES, NARRATIVE ANALYSIS AND INSTRUCTION IMPLEMENTATION, IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN FULL DIAGNOSTIC RECORDS.
THIS IS EXHIBIT F. THIS IS A TEACHER CONFERENCE FORM.
THIS DOCUMENT EXISTS. IT HAS TEACHERS, OBSERVATIONS, STRENGTHS AND GOALS.
IT IS NOT IN THE SYSTEM. THEY TOLD. THEY TOLD ME TO RELY ON AND I WAS NOT GIVEN IT.
THIS EMAIL EXHIBIT 6.D OR THIS DOCUMENT, EXHIBIT 6.D IS EMAILS I RECEIVED ARE GENERAL MESSAGES, OFTEN BLIND CARBON COPIES, NOT DIRECT COMMUNICATION ABOUT MY CHILD.
YOU HAVE EXHIBIT 6.D IN YOUR PACKET. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DISTRICT'S INTERPRETATION OF MY COURT ORDER, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN THE BASIS FOR DENYING ME ACCESS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THE DISTRICT. THE DISTRICT HAS RESTRICTED MY ABILITY TO ATTEND SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, PARTICIPATE IN CONFERENCES, AND COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH TEACHERS.
THIS IS NOT COMING FROM ONE PERSON. IT'S BEEN STATED BY MULTIPLE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES, INCLUDING LEGAL SERVICES. IN WRITING THE DISTRICT STATED THAT MY RIGHT TO CONSULT WITH SCHOOL OFFICIALS HAS BEEN REMOVED.
MY RIGHT TO ATTEND SCHOOL ACTIVITIES HAS BEEN REMOVED.
AND THOSE RIGHTS ARE ONLY LISTED FOR THE OTHER PARENTS.
IN EXHIBIT 8. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT PAGE 7 OF MY FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025 CUSTODY ORDERS, LIMITS, POSITION, POSSESSION AND ACCESS. BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT PAGE 7, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. IN EXHIBIT 9, THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS JUST DISTRIBUTED TO YOU.
THE DISTRICT REVIEWED A COURT ORDER AND CONFIRMED THAT BOTH PARENTS RETAIN EQUAL EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH ONE PARENT DID NOT HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS WRITTEN UNDER THAT PARENT'S NAME IN THE ORDER.
THE RIGHT WAS NOT LISTED UNDER THE PARENT'S NAME AS AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT IN THE DISTRICT STILL CONFIRMED THAT BOTH PARENTS RETAIN EQUAL RIGHTS AND THAT ONE PARENT CANNOT PREVENT THE OTHER PARENT FROM EXERCISING THOSE RIGHTS UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE LEGAL DOCUMENT STATING OTHERWISE.
THIS MEANS THAT THE STARTING POINT IS THAT BOTH PARENTS HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS, UNLESS THE ORDER EXPLICITLY SAYS OTHERWISE, AS REFLECTED IN EXHIBIT 9, ONE PARENT CANNOT PREVENT THE OTHER FROM EXERCISING THOSE RIGHTS UNLESS THE LEGAL DOCUMENT STATES OTHERWISE.
THIS IS IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE OF THESE ORDERS HAS CHANGED.
IN THE PRIOR ORDER THOSE RIGHTS WERE NOT LISTED, WERE NOT LISTED UNDER ONE PARENT'S NAME, AND BOTH PARENTS WERE STILL TREATED AS HAVING THOSE RIGHTS IN THE CURRENT ORDER.
THOSE RIGHTS ARE NOT LISTED UNDER MY NAME, BUT THERE'S STILL NO LANGUAGE REMOVING MY RIGHTS.
SO THE ABSENCE OF A NAME DOES NOT MEAN THE RIGHT IS TAKEN AWAY.
IT DOES NOT RESTRICT ME. IT IT OUTLINES, IT OUTLINES RIGHTS ASSIGNED TO THE OTHER PARENT.
IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT REMOVING MY ABILITY TO ACCESS SCHOOL RECORDS, ATTEND SCHOOL EVENTS, OR PARTICIPATE IN MY CHILD'S EDUCATION. THE ONLY SECTION ON PAGE 7, EXHIBIT 8.
THAT SECTION GOVERNS PHYSICAL TIME WITH MY CHILD.
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SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT THE DISTRICT IS TREATING THE ABSENCE OF MY NAME AS IF IT WERE A REMOVAL OF MY RIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH THE ORDER DOES NOT ACTUALLY SAY THAT.SO I'M ASKING FOR CLEAR ANSWER. IS THE DISTRICT'S POSITION THAT THE FEBRUARY 28TH TO 25 ORDER EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS ME FROM ATTENDING SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, COMMUNICATING WITH TEACHERS, OR PARTICIPATING IN EDUCATIONAL DISCUSSIONS? OR IS THE DISTRICT MAKING THAT DETERMINATION BASED ON AN INTERPRETATION? SO THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU IS NOT JUST WHETHER I DISAGREE, IT IS WHETHER THE DISTRICT HAS TAKEN A COURT ORDER AND APPLIED IT IN A WAY THAT EXTENDS BEYOND WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS AND IN DOING SO, DENIES RIGHTS THAT WERE NEVER REMOVED.
I UNDERSTAND THE DISTRICT FOLLOWS COURT ORDERS.
I AM ASKING WHETHER THE ORDER EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS THOSE ACTIONS OR WHETHER IT'S THE DISTRICT'S INTERPRETATION, BECAUSE THAT DISTINCTION HAS NOT BEEN CLEARLY STATED IN THE RECORD.
THIS IS A SECTION 504 PLAN DATED FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024.
THE SCHOOL HAS TOLD ME THE DISTRICT AND LEGAL SERVICES HAVE BEEN GIVEN TWO DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS.
ONE, THAT THERE WAS NO 504 PLAN AND THE OTHER THAT THE SERVICES WERE NOT CONTINUED.
BUT A 504 PLAN EXISTS BECAUSE I'M HOLDING IT.
IF THE DISTRICT'S POSITION IS THAT IT WAS NOT ON FILE, THAT DOES NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DID THE WHEN DID THE DISTRICT BECOME AWARE OF IT? WHAT STEPS WERE TAKEN ONCE IT WAS IDENTIFIED? AND WHY IS IT NOT IMPLEMENTED? IF THE DISTRICT'S POSITION IS THAT THE PLAN WAS DISCONTINUED, THEN I'M ASKING WHEN DID THAT OCCUR? WHAT MEETING WAS HELD? WHERE IS THAT DOCUMENTATION AND WHERE IS THE RECORD OF PARENT PARTICIPATION? BECAUSE NONE OF THAT IS IN THE LEVEL II DECISION.
THERE SHOULD BE DOCUMENTATION OF THE PROCESS, BUT I'VE NOT BEEN PROVIDED ANY.
THIS IS A GUARDIAN AD LITEM REPORT. THIS IS A LEGAL CUSTODY DOCUMENT.
IT'S NOT AN EDUCATIONAL RECORD. AND THE DISTRICT NEVER ADDRESSED WHY IT'S IN THE SCHOOL FILE.
IT WAS NEVER EVEN ENTERED INTO THE COURTS. IT WAS NEVER EVEN REVIEWED OR CROSS-EXAMINED.
FOR THESE REASONS, I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO CORRECT THE FACTUAL INACCURACIES IN THIS LEVEL II DECISION AND TO ISSUE COMPLETE WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS ON THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED BUT NOT ADDRESSED, INCLUDING THE SCOPE OF MY PARTICIPATION.
THE SECTION 504 STATUS, AND THE RECORD CONCERNS.
THE CURRENT DECISION DOES NOT FULLY REFLECT WHAT OCCURRED OR RESOLVED OR RESOLVED THE ISSUES PRESENTED, BECAUSE THE DISTRICT HAS NOT MADE THAT DETERMINATION ON THE RECORD.
I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO DO WHAT THE DISTRICT HAS DECLINED TO DO.
MAKE IT CLEAR ON THE RECORD DETERMINATION. EITHER SHOW ME WHERE THE ORDER REMOVES MY EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS, OR ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE RIGHTS REMAIN AND MUST BE HONORED.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OUTCOMES. I'M DONE SPEAKING.
THANK YOU. AND WE'LL RESERVE A MINUTE AND 30S, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN.
THE ADMINISTRATION MAY NOW PROCEED WITH A REPLY.
MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 165 OF THE MATERIALS. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 165, YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS A DECEMBER 12TH, 2018 DECREE OF DIVORCE. AT THIS TIME IN 2018, THE BOTH THE PARENTS HAD FULL EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS, INCLUDING ALL RIGHTS TO ENGAGE IN EDUCATIONAL DECISION MAKING AND RECEIVE INFORMATION.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, WHICH IS PAGE 166, YOU WILL SEE BOTH MS. LYONS AND HER FORMER SPOUSE BOTH HAVE THE EXACT SAME EDITION.
THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS. WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO THEN IS TO COMPARE THAT WITH THE SUBSEQUENT ORDER THAT WAS ISSUED FEBRUARY 28TH OF 2025, STARTING AT PAGE 211.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PAGE STARTING ON PAGE 213, YOU WILL SEE THE SPECIFIC RIGHTS THAT ARE GIVEN TO
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MR. RICHARD LYONS. MR. LYONS HAS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON NUMBER 5, THE RIGHT TO CONSULT WITH THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS CONCERNING THE CHILD'S WELFARE AND EDUCATIONAL STATUS, INCLUDING ALL SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL OTHER RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO ATTEND SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING LUNCHES, PERFORMANCES, AND FIELD TRIPS. THE RIGHTS TO BE DESIGNATED ON THE CHILD'S RECORD AS THE PERSON TO BE NOTIFIED IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.
THE RIGHT TO CONSENT TO MEDICAL THINGS AND MANAGE THE ESTATE.
IF YOU TURN THE PAGE AND SEE THE RIGHTS THAT ARE GRANTED TO MS. LYONS, YOU WILL NOTE THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF THE EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS.
THE SOLE RIGHTS SHE HAS WITH REGARD TO EDUCATIONAL MATTERS IS THE RIGHT TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN NUMBER 3. AND THAT IS THE BASIS FOR THE DETERMINATIONS THAT WERE MADE ON THE CAMPUS LEVEL. LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR LEVEL I GRIEVANCE, THE LEVEL I GRIEVANCE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION THAT MS. LYONS DID NOT HAVE FULL ACCESS TO ALL OF THE ALL OF THE EDUCATIONAL RECORDS OF HER CHILD.
THAT WAS LOOKED AT AND THAT WAS CHANGED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
IF YOU LOOK AT. THE LEVEL I DECISION.
FOUND ON PAGES 112 AND 113. YOU WILL SEE THAT DOCTOR OLDHAM GRANTED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE REQUESTED RELEASE AT THAT TIME. OUR CAMPUSES WENT BACK, THEY GENERALLY WE ONLY ALLOW ONE PERSON, ONE PARTY ACCESS TO THE CAMPUS RECORDS. THEY PUT IN A REQUEST TO TECHNOLOGY THEY HAD THAT CHANGED.
SHE DID FILE A LEVEL II GRIEVANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGES 120 AND 121, THE LEVEL II HEARING OFFICER IS DOCTOR NICHOLS. DOCTOR NICHOLS ALSO GRANTED ALL HER RIGHTS TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
SO WHERE WE ARE IS THE REQUEST WITH REGARDS TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
MS. LYONS HAS GOT FULL ACCESS. NOW SHE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT CONTAINED IN HER GRIEVANCE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, THOUGH. FOR THE BOARD'S POSITION WITH REGARD TO THE 504 PLAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COURT ORDERS, AS WE POINTED OUT, MS. LYONS, FORMER, FORMER SPOUSE. THE CHILD'S FATHER HAS FULL EDUCATIONAL DECISION MAKING AT THIS POINT.
WITH REGARD TO THAT. THE FATHER HAD DISCONTINUED THE 504 PLAN.
HE CHOSE NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE 504 PLAN.
THAT IS WHY THERE IS NOT A CURRENT 504 PLAN. WITH REGARD TO THE AD LITEM REPORT, AND THERE IS A QUESTION ON WHY THAT IS IN THE RECORDS, YOU WILL NOTE THAT IN THE, THE ORDER APPOINTING THE AD LITEM, YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE REASON THAT THAT IS IN THERE IS BECAUSE ON OCTOBER 30TH OF 2023, AND THAT IS BEFORE THE MS. LYON'S CHILD WAS REGISTERED WITH FORT WORTH.
I MEAN, WITH ROUND ROCK ISD. SORRY, REVERT IT TO MY OWN KIDDO.
THEY JOINED US AT ROUND ROCK IN THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR.
BUT BACK IN THE 23-24 SCHOOL YEAR THERE WAS AN AD LITEM APPOINTED TO ENSURE THAT THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD WERE BEING WERE BEING LOOKED AFTER. ON PART OF, AS PART OF THAT, WE HAD TO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, ON PAGE 206, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE AD LITEM WAS GRANTED ACCESS TO ALL RELEVANT RECORDS. THE REASON THAT THERE'S AN AD LITEM REPORT IN THE CHILD'S CUMULATIVE FOLDER IS THAT THAT WAS ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE RECORDS.
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THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT'S IN THERE. THE AD LITEM WAS REMAINED AD LITEM UNTIL I BELIEVE THEIR DUTIES WERE DISCHARGED.WHEN THE FATHER GOT PRIMARY CUSTODY. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
I'M GOING TO RESERVE THE LAST THREE MINUTES IN CASE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO RESPOND TO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE MICHAEL A CHANCE TO RESET THE CLOCK.
MS. LYONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO USE YOUR MINUTE AND A HALF? OKAY. GO AHEAD. THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM IS A LEGAL CUSTODY DOCUMENT.
I'M GOING TO RESTATE THAT IT DOESN'T BELONG IN EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
THERE IS A. THE GRIEVANCE I DOES LIST THE 504 THE FIRST GRIEVANCE.
THERE SHOULD BE A RECORD OF MR. I'M A SCHOOL BASED OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST.
I'VE BEEN TO 504 MEETINGS. THERE SHOULD BE A RECORD THAT THIS WAS THIS WAS DISMISSED.
[LAUGHTER]. LIKE THERE'S NO RECORDS REGARDLESS OF I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. LYONS HAS DONE, BUT WHERE'S THE DOCUMENTATION? WHERE WAS THE MEETING HELD? WHEN DID IT OCCUR? WHAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THIS MEETING? BECAUSE IF IT WAS IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS WHEN HIS RECORDS WERE UP, THERE WAS A WHOLE YEAR AND A HALF. A YEAR. THERE WAS A WHOLE YEAR WHERE THERE WAS NO 504 PLAN BEING PUT INTO PLACE.
LISTING ONE PARENT'S RIGHTS IS NOT THE SAME AS REMOVING ANOTHER PARENT'S RIGHTS.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE ORDER DOES NOT SAY THAT I AM PROHIBITED.
I UNDERSTAND MY NAME'S LISTED. I'M ASKING WHERE THE ORDER SAYS I'M PROHIBITED.
I'M ASKING FOR THE LANGUAGE. I'M NOT ASKING FOR INTERPRETATION.
I'M ASKING FOR THE LANGUAGE. I UNDERSTAND MR. LYON HAS THAT RIGHT. I'M ASKING WHERE THE ORDERS SAY.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT. EXHIBIT 6.A 6.B 6.D 6.E MAKES IT CLEAR THAT I DID NOT.
TIME'S UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LYONS. MS. HILL, JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND TO RESET THE CLOCK.
THANK YOU. IF I CAN JUST RESPOND TO THE FINAL ARGUMENT THAT MS. LYONS HAS MADE. THIS BOARD HAS TREMENDOUS, HAS TREMENDOUS POWER OVER THE LIVES OF OUR KIDS. HOWEVER, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY WOULD BE OUR ARGUMENT TO OVERRIDE A COURT ORDER. THIS IS A FAIRLY CLEAR COURT ORDER. IT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES WHAT RIGHTS EACH PARENT HAS. IF YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VERY FIRST ORDER IN THIS.
IN THE DISSOLUTION OF THIS MARRIAGE, THE RIGHTS WERE EQUAL.
THE RIGHTS WERE THE SAME. THEY NO LONGER ARE.
HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME THE, THE ORDER DOES NOT HAVE TO SAY YOU, A PARTICULAR PARTY DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT. THE ORDER TELLS YOU WHAT RIGHTS YOU DO HAVE.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT I'M OBVIOUSLY AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THE LEVEL III GRIEVANCE PRESENTATION IS NOW CONCLUDED.
I WILL NOW ASK IF BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE GRIEVANT OR THE ADMINISTRATION AND TRUSTEES AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER, SINCE WE ARE IN OPEN. IF ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, YOU NEED TO USE IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OF A STUDENT OR PERSONNEL.
WE DO NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED. SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING THAT INFORMATION.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE LANDRUM. I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER IN THIS SUPPLEMENTAL PACKET.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT ONE.
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ACTIVITIES AND CONSULT AND CONSULT WITH SCHOOL OFFICIALS.NUMBER 3 ENSURE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATIONAL RECORDS ACCESS REMEDIES, INCLUDING PRODUCTION OF FULL DIAGNOSTIC TESTING REPORTS AND NARRATIVE REPORT CARD COMMENTS.
THOSE ARE THE FIVE THINGS THAT YOU WANT THE BOARD? YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT ONE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS REGARDING NUMBER THREE.
BECAUSE IT, IT APPEARS IN LEVEL I AND LEVEL II THAT, THAT RIGHT, THAT REQUEST WAS GRANTED.
AND THAT'S THE FULL ACCESS TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT. AND I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS ON THAT AND HOW WE REMEDY BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE, ACCORDING TO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SUPPLIED, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN FULL ACCESS.
SO HOW DO WE REMEDY OR WHAT DO YOU SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU SATISFIED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GRANTED FULL ACCESS? BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THE PRINCIPAL HAS, THE AREA SUP HAS, THE CHIEF OF.
SENIOR CHIEF HAS SAID YES. AND SO I JUST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT DISCONNECT.
THE DISTRICT IS SAYING THAT THEY HAVE THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION.
SO I JUST SHOWED YOU EXHIBIT 6.A OR 6.C AND 6.D, WHICH ARE PARTIAL RECORDS OF DIAGNOSTIC TESTINGS.
THERE'S TEACHER INPUT FORMS AND THERE'S ALSO COMMUNICATION LIKE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS.
I WAS GETTING WITH THE TEACHER THAT HAVE DISAPPEARED.
I WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNICATIONS. I MEAN FIELD TRIP INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PREPARE YOUR CHILD FOR CERTAIN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE CLASSROOM.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACCESS AND POSSESSION.
IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE? LIKE, ARE YOU WANTING RECORDS THAT YOU MAYBE NEED TO GO THROUGH OUR OPEN RECORDS DEPARTMENT TO REQUEST? I'VE GOT IT ANOTHER WAY. NOT THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY HAD GIVEN ME NONE OF THIS.
I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DISCONNECT THEN. I'M SAYING THAT THIS THE TEACHER FORMS WEREN'T GIVEN.
I'M SAYING THAT I'M NOT GETTING FULL DIAGNOSTIC TESTING.
I'M SAYING THAT I'M NOT GETTING INFORMATION. NOTHING FROM THIS, NO EMAILS FROM THE TEACHER THIS YEAR, NO COMMUNICATION, NO INVITES TO REPORT CARD CONFERENCES, FIELD TRIPS, ANYTHING, ANYTHING.
OKAY, LET ME SEE. DOCTOR NICHOLS HAS HER LIGHT ON. LET ME SEE.
NO, I THINK IT'S IN THE RECORDS AND ALSO WITHIN THE NOTES.
SHE RECEIVED THE FULL QM FOLDER. SO INITIALLY, WHEN THE FATHER REGISTERED THE CHILD MS. LYONS WAS NOT PUT ON THE INFORMATION. SO WE AS A SCHOOL DID NOT KNOW THAT SHE WAS A PARENT THAT COULD RECEIVE ANY RECORDS BECAUSE BASED ON THE COURT ORDER, HE WAS THE ONE THAT PUT THE CHILD IN SCHOOL.
WHEN SHE INFORMED US AND WE LOOKED AT THE COURT ORDER WE.
SHE RECEIVED EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE QM FOLDER.
WE, SHE WAS ALSO RECEIVING EMAILS FROM THE PRINCIPAL AS FAR AS ANYTHING THAT WAS SENT OUT, EMAILS FROM THE TEACHER, ANY DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION FROM IREADY AND ALL OF THAT WAS SENT OUT, GIVEN ACCESS, ACCESS TO HOME ACCESS. AND I ALSO SHARED WITHIN THE DOCUMENTATION EVERYTHING THAT WAS SENT TO HER THROUGH THE QM FOLDER THAT I HAD THE ABILITY TO PRINT OUT AND ADD IN HERE. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE SENT TO HER.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GRANTED IN LEVEL I, AND I DOUBLE CHECKED IN LEVEL II, EVEN THOUGH IT SAID IT WAS GRANTED. OKAY. SO I DISAGREE WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I JUST SHOWED YOU THAT I DIDN'T GET.
YOU CAN'T. ALL SHE. ALL THEY GAVE ME WAS IREADY WAS A SHORT LITTLE SUMMARY.
IT'S FIVE PAGES LONG. I DID NOT GET THE TEACHER FORMS, THE CONFERENCE FORMS. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THE TEACHER OR THE TEACHER AT ALL.
NO COMMUNICATION. EVEN THOUGH THEY CONTINUOUSLY TELL ME THEY'VE GRANTED ME.
THEY'RE TELLING ME THAT HE'S GRANTING ME THESE THINGS, BUT I'M NOT GETTING THEM.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHAT ELSE A REMEDY AS WE AS A BOARD LIKE.
DURING THE MY LEVEL II AND THEN ALSO PRINTED OUT WITHIN THE DOCUMENTATION YOU SEE WE SENT.
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I SHOWED YOU A RECORD OF EVERYTHING THE REGISTRAR SENT AND EVERYTHING WE SENT.AND THEN I ALSO PRINTED THOSE ITEMS OUT SO YOU CAN SEE THEM.
BUT MS. NICHOLS KEPT SAYING THAT I SAID THAT I DID.
AND THEN I READ THIS TO HIM, LIKE, I READ THIS WHOLE THING TO DOCTOR NICHOLS AND DOCTOR OLDHAM AND THE PRINCIPAL SAYING, THESE ARE THE THINGS I'M NOT GETTING. I TOOK LIKE 20 MINUTES.
AND THEN SHE WENT TO THE PRINCIPAL AND SAID I.
MS. MOLINA, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THESE. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BEFORE? MISS. DOCTOR NICHOLS HAD NOT EVEN SEEN THIS BEFORE, SO I'VE ALREADY WENT OVER THIS WITH DOCTOR NICHOLS.
I ALREADY WENT OVER WITH MR. MOLINA. I'VE ALREADY WENT OVER IT WITH DOCTOR OLDHAM.
AND THEN THEY WRITE A RESPONSE SAYING, I AGREED, I GOT EVERYTHING, BUT I DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING.
I'M NOT GETTING EVERYTHING. I'M NOT GETTING ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE TEACHERS. I'M NOT GETTING ANY PARENT THOSE CONFERENCE FORMS. I'M NOT GETTING ANY OF THE FULL REPORTS OF THE TESTING.
THERE'S SO MUCH TESTING THAT GOES ON WITH THE SCHOOL. I'M NOT GETTING ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THE STAAR, I'M GETTING THE STAAR. THAT'S IT. LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH THAT I'M NOT GETTING.
AND JUST SAYING, I GRANTED THIS, WE GRANTED THIS TO YOU.
AND THEN LIKE THEY SAID, THEY GRANTED IT AFTER LEVEL I.
BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL I PUT MY LEVEL I APPEAL IN WHY I GOT ACCESS TO THE RECORDS.
AND MS. MOLINA WAS LIKE, I'M SORRY. I HAD SOME SICK CHILDREN.
I'VE BEEN OUT. BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER I PUT THE LEVEL I GRIEVANCE THROUGH.
I DIDN'T AGREE TO OR WHAT I SAID I SAID, OR WHAT RECORDS THEY SAY THEY'VE GIVEN ME AND GRANTED.
I'M NOT HAVING THEM. LIKE I TOLD YOU, I'VE WORKED IN A SCHOOL SYSTEM.
I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, AND I KNOW THAT I'M NOT GETTING IT.
BUT MY REALITY IS REALLY BEING TESTED HERE. OKAY, SO LET ME LEAVE THAT.
IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN GRANT.
LIKE WE DON'T ACCESS RECORDS. WE DON'T GO TO INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT ONE. ON NUMBER FOUR, REGARDING SECTION 504, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THE CHILD'S FATHER DISCONTINUED THE 504. THERE HAS TO BE A MEETING.
THERE HAS TO BE AGREEMENTS. I WASN'T. I HAVE TO.
I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE PAPERWORK IN A MEETING AND IT HAS TO BE.
IT'S A FORMAL PROCESS, JUST LIKE A SPECIAL. IT'S.
THERE HAS TO BE LIKE PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENTATION THAT THIS WAS DISCONTINUED AND THERE'S NOTHING.
SO HE'S NOT SAYING HE DISCONTINUED IT. I DON'T HAVE THAT EMAIL IN THE PACKET, BUT HE'S SAYING I KNOW NOTHING OF A 504 PLAN, WHICH HE DOES KNOW THERE'S A 504 PLAN BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT IN THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
SO HE DIDN'T SAY I DISCONTINUED IT. MS. HILL, IS THERE A DOCUMENTATION THAT I MISSED IN HERE OR SOMETHING? LIKE WHAT? WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THE RECORDS WHEN A 504 IS DISCONTINUED? AND SO IT WAS DISCONTINUED BEFORE THEY CAME TO OUR DISTRICT.
GOTCHA. SO WHEN HE ENROLLED THE STUDENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION.
IT WAS NOT DISCONTINUED. THIS IS FEBRUARY 2004.
HE CAME AUGUST 2004. A 504 PLAN IS GOOD FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED IT IN FEBRUARY OF 2025 AND THAT'S WHEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED. BUT THERE WAS NO DISCONTINUATION.
THEY DIDN'T GET THE RECORDS, THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH. AND I EVEN TOLD HIS 4TH GRADE TEACHER, WHEN I WAS ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH HER, THAT SHE WAS SAYING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS HE WAS SHOWING IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, HE HAS A 504 PLAN. LET'S GET THIS GOING.
I SAID THIS TO HIS TEACHER IN 4TH GRADE. SO HE HAS IT WAS NEVER DISCONTINUED.
THERE'S DOCUMENTATION. 504 PLAN IS A FEDERAL POLICY.
YOU JUST DON'T DISCONTINUE IT WITHOUT MEETINGS AND PAPERWORK AND SIGNATURES.
LIKE IN AN AGREEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE. THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT AGREES ON THIS.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN THE MIC BACK OVER, SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO REALLY QUICKLY WHILE I'M DIGESTING THE REST OF THIS.
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OKAY? SO THE QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK YOU THOUGH, IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOCUMENTS THAT THAT SHOULD BE THERE.WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE THAT THEY WERE THERE? THERE MAY BE DOCUMENTS THAT WEREN'T CREATED, PERHAPS THAT MAYBE DID YOUR HUSBAND OR YOUR EX-HUSBAND, EXCUSE ME, GIVE YOU ANY NOTIFICATIONS THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS EXISTED? DID THE DISTRICT? YES NO. OKAY. I WISH HE WAS HERE TODAY TO PROVE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE.
THERE'S NO WAY. [LAUGHTER]. ESPECIALLY. OKAY.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.
I MEAN, ARE YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD YOU GRANT THAT MAYBE YOUR EMAIL WASN'T PUT ON THE LIST AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED? NO INTRODUCING MYSELF, ASKING I GOT FROM THE REGISTRAR, THE TEACHER'S EMAIL.
AND I WROTE THE TEACHER. I SAID, I AM THE, I WROTE.
THE TEACHER IN THE GIFTED AND TALENT. I FORGOT WHAT YOU CALLED GIFTED AND TALENTED IN THIS DISTRICT.
TAG. TAG. I WROTE BOTH TEACHERS AND LAST YEAR THE TAG TEACHER.
WHILE WE WERE STILL UNDER THESE 2025 ORDERS IN MAY, SHE SENT ME HIS PRESENTATION FOR.
SHE SENT ME HIS WHOLE PRESENTATION ON AI FOR WHATEVER THE ANNUAL APRIL OR MAY.
THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE PROOF OF THAT, SO WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT UP HERE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE WAS A MIX UP WITH SOME PAPERWORK, BUT. NO, THERE'S NO DISTRICT.
THE HEARINGS ARE SAYING I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO THIS COMMUNICATION.
I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GRANTED YOU THAT IN LEVEL I, THOUGH.
I'M NOT. IN LEVEL I THEY GRANTED ME ACCESS TO RECORDS AND INFORMATION, BUT I DID NOT GET THEM.
SO THEY GRANTED THE RIGHT. BUT I'M NOT GETTING THEM.
OKAY. BUT GETTING COMMUNICATION WITH THE TEACHER, THEY HAVE NEVER GRANTED ME THAT.
OKAY, ONE SECOND. DOCTOR NICHOLS, HAVE WE HAVE WE GIVEN EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO HER THAT WITHIN THE LAW? YES, WE HAVE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MS. LYONS HAS SAID IS THAT INITIALLY THAT SHE CALLED THE SCHOOL AND THEY WERE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH HER.
AND JUST TO EXPLAIN, SHE IS CORRECT BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ENTERED IN THE RECORDS AND WE DON'T RELEASE TO ANYONE THAT IS NOT ON THE STUDENT FILE SAYING THAT WE CAN RELEASE INFORMATION. SO INITIALLY WE DID NOT RELEASE ANYTHING TO HER UNTIL SHE CAME BACK AND GOT US THAT INFORMATION.
AND YOU RETROACTIVELY GAVE HER EVERYTHING? ADDED HER TO MAKE SURE SHE RECEIVES COMMUNICATION WHENEVER THE.
NOW THAT SHE'S ON THERE. ANYTIME THE PRINCIPAL SENDS OUT COMMUNICATION TO ALL THE FAMILIES, SHE GETS THAT. THE TEACHER HAS BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO HER AND SEND HER INFORMATION.
AND SO THERE IS EMAIL SHOWING THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE PRINCIPALS, THE STUFF SENT FROM THE REGISTRAR, ALL THE IREADY DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE SENT HER IN REGARDS TO THE STUDENT.
RIGHT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY DISCONTINUED THAT IN THERE IF HE WAS IN HIS PREVIOUS DISTRICT.
MY QUESTION IS, DOES A 504 MOVE FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT? A 504. CORRECT? HE'S NOT TAKEN OFF THE 504. AND ANOTHER IT SAYS RIGHT HERE.
YOU'RE WELCOME. TRUSTEES DO I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BUTTONS ARE WORKING. TRUSTEE LANDRUM.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE REQUEST ON THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM REPORT.
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MS. HILL, I'VE NEVER READ. I'VE NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM BEFORE.I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, I KNOW THE PURPOSE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IS IT TYPICAL THAT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE COURT BY GUARDIAN AD LITEM ARE THEN INCLUDED IN EDUCATIONAL RECORD? I DON'T I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN A STUDENT'S RECORDS ARE YOU KNOW, COURT ORDERS WITH REGARD TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS, EDUCATIONAL ACCESS, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BECAUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM WAS GRANTED EDUCATIONAL RECORD ACCESS AND ACCESS TO TEACHERS TO DISCUSS THINGS WITH THEM AND CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION AND CONSULTANTS AND PERSONNEL.
THAT'S THAT HAD TO BE IN THERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNEW THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY TALK TO THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TOO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WAS A HIM AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO HIM WITH REGARD TO THE STUDENT.
IT DOES SAY BOTH PARENTS SHOULD HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO SCHOOL RELATED INFORMATION AND ACTIVITIES.
AND SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE COURT ORDER? THAT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY LIST THAT MS. LYONS HAS ACCESS TO ATTEND ACTIVITIES.
BUT THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM REPORT SAYS THAT IT DOES.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? YES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATES AND THE ORDERS.
THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM WAS APPOINTED IN 2023 BEFORE THE STUDENT CAME TO US.
AND BETWEEN THE TIME BETWEEN 2018 AND FEBRUARY OF THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, THEN THERE WAS ACCESS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, BOTH PARENTS HAD ACCESS TO SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
IT WAS THE FEBRUARY 2025 THAT HAPPENED LAST SPRING.
THAT REMOVED THAT RIGHT. THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM.
MAY I SPEAK ON THIS? HOLD ON. I'M STILL JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE AN ORDER FROM 2018. THEN WE HAVE AN ORDER FROM 2023 FOR THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM.
AND SO THEY DON'T OVERLAP BECAUSE THE SECOND, THE ONE DATED FEBRUARY 28TH, 2025, IS AFTER.
BECAUSE THIS IS DATED AUGUST 10TH, 2024. THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY. THE FINAL ORDER IN THE ORDER THAT IS IN EFFECT CURRENTLY IS THE ONE FROM FEBRUARY OF 2025.
OKAY. MAY I SPEAK ON THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW IT SO WELL.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS, BUT.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS.
THE REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IS FROM AUGUST 2024.
OVERNIGHT, THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM. THE JUDGE HAD A BINDING AGREEMENT.
AND THOSE WERE THE ORDERS. SO THERE'S NO LIKE THIS THAT CAME FIRST.
THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM DECIDED FOR THE JUDGE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THIS CHILD.
AND SO WHEN. MISS. I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME HILL THEY ARE. THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM MADE THE DECISION.
I JUST HAVE NOT EVER SEEN THEM AS HOW THEY IMPACT EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN TWO PARENTS DISAGREE SO MUCH, THEN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM IS PUT IN TO KIND OF HAVE A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY THAT JUST REPRESENTS THE CHILD.
BUT I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT THE PROCESS WAS BECAUSE I HONESTLY, I MISSED THE DATE ON THE FEBRUARY, I THINK THE OCTOBER OF 2023. THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL IN THIS PACKET.
SHE IS. BUT THE ONE WE'RE GIVING THE RIGHTS FOR THE SHE WROTE THE 2025 DECREE THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM WROTE IT.
AND SO. BUT THE 2023 IS WHEN THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM WAS REQUESTED.
THAT'S WHEN THIS REPORT WAS CREATED.
TIME TO RESPOND. I PROMISE. OKAY. I PROMISE I WILL.
BUT THE 2023 IS WHERE THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM WAS CREATED.
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AND THEN THE REPORT WAS WRITTEN IN 2024. AND THEN THE FINAL DECREE THAT WE'RE WORKING UNDER RIGHT NOW WAS IN FEBRUARY OF 2025.SO THAT'S THE PROCESS. I KNOW THAT IT'S ALL RELATED.
I KNOW THAT THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM IS STILL IN PLACE.
SHE'S NOT IN PLACE. NO, LIKE THIS LETTER IS STILL IN PLACE INTO THE EDUCATIONAL RECORDS.
I JUST WASN'T SURE WHY IT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE. BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DISTRICT HAD TO KNOW, LIKE ACCESS AND, YOU KNOW, REPEATING WHAT MS. HILL SAID. AND MS. LYONS.
AND THEN I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REST OF OUR QUESTIONS.
WAIT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. ARE YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION? NO, I'M NOT ASKING YOU A QUESTION. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'LL GIVE ONE MORE RESPONSE, BECAUSE I DO THINK TRUSTEE LANDRUM'S QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY. CAN YOU CLARIFY, LIKE IN A SENTENCE, WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS? I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T ASK TRUSTEES QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY THE GUARDIAN SAID PARENTS SHOULD HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EDUCATION.
BUT IT IS THE JUDGE HAS FINAL SAY IN MAKING A DECREE.
I MEAN, I WE DON'T NEED TO DEBATE. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
AND BUT I DO UNFORTUNATELY, HAVE BEEN THROUGH A DIVORCE WITH A MINOR CHILD.
AND I KNOW THAT A JUDGE'S ORDER IS FINAL, AND SO WE CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE LETTER. I KNOW THAT THE LETTER GOES INTO THE RECORDS AS PART OF THE STUDENT'S RECORDS.
DOES THAT LETTER REMAIN IN THE RECORDS FOREVER SINCE IT'S PART OF THE RECORDS? OR DOES IT IS IT REMOVED ONCE THE GUARDIAN AD LITEM IS DISMISSED? WE GENERALLY DO NOT REMOVE RECORDS REGARDING ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST LIKE WE HAVE IN THE CHILD'S FOLDER. NOW PLEASE REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY IN THE CHILD'S QM FOLDER, THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT THAT, I MEAN, THOSE ARE VERY, VERY LIMITED. SO WE JUST LIKE WE DON'T PULL OUT PRIOR DIVORCE DECREES.
WE DON'T PULL OUT THE AD LITEM ORDERS EITHER.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ATTORNEYS TO BE ASKED NOW OR? NO, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET LEGAL ADVICE FROM OUR ATTORNEY, BUT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IN CLOSED.
OKAY. COULD WE GO INTO CLOSED? CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GO INTO.
SO WE WERE GOING TO IF, IF THAT'S THE WHAT THE GRIEVANT WANTS, WE CAN STILL GO INTO CLOSED CORRECT? FOR DEBATE, UNLESS THE GRIEVANT WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE IT OPEN.
CORRECT. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO.
NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEYS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PLAY THAT OUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME LEGAL ADVICE FROM BOARD COUNSEL BEFORE WE.
SO, MS. LYONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THE SESSION AND OPEN.
SO ARE YOU OKAY WITH US GOING IN TO CLOSE? OR WOULD YOU PREFER THAT WE STAY IN OPEN AND DEBATE? THERE CAN'T BE ANY DISCUSSION WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE DEBATING JUST I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
OKAY. YES. AND WE DO HAVE TO GO INTO CLOSED FOR LEGAL QUESTIONS.
BUT AS FAR AS OUR DISCUSSION AS A BOARD TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE IN THE PRESENTATIONS, WE TYPICALLY GO INTO CLOSED. BUT BECAUSE WE DID THIS IN OPEN, YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION FOR US TO DISCUSS IT IN OPEN.
OKAY. FOR MY SON'S SAKE. OKAY, THEN WE WILL PROCEED THAT WAY.
THANK YOU. I WILL NOW INSTRUCT THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD REGARDING THE PROPER PROCESS OF REACHING DECISIONS IN THIS LEVEL III GRIEVANCE, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT IS OUTSIDE THE BOARD'S AUTHORITY TO AWARD MONEY DAMAGES TO A GRIEVANT.
FINALLY, WE CANNOT TERMINATE AN EMPLOYEE'S EMPLOYMENT WITH THE DISTRICT AS PART OF A GRIEVANCE.
3. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO GRANT IN PART AND DENY IN PART ANY OR ALL OF THE RELIEF REQUESTED.
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4. IF THE BOARD TAKES NO ACTION, THE DECISION OF LEVEL II STANDS, OR IF THERE IS NO LEVEL II DECISION, THEN THE BOARD'S ACTION TO HEAR THE GRIEVANCE SATISFIES ITS OBLIGATION TO STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN TO THE GRIEVANT AS REQUIRED IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY, FNG LEGAL THROUGHOUT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER ONLY THE LOCAL RECORD, THE GRIEVANCE PRESENTATION AND THE REPLY PRESENTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION TONIGHT AT THIS MEETING, WE ARE NOT TO CONSIDER ANY STATEMENT OR OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE MAY HAVE HEARD OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING OR OUTSIDE OF THE LOCAL RECORD.THE BOARD WILL NOW EXCUSE THE PARTIES, AND MS. LYONS WE'LL ASK YOU TO STEP OUT WHILE WE DEBATE, AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE DONE. IT IS 5:52 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED.
[E. CLOSED SESSION]
IT IS 6:04 AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN. DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS?[F. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS]
HEARING NONE, NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN, THUS LEAVING THE DECISION OF LEVEL II IN PLACE.OR IF NO LEVEL II WAS ISSUED IN THIS MATTER, THEN THE BOARD'S ACTION TO HEAR THE GRIEVANCE SATISFIES ITS OBLIGATION TO STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN TO THE GRIEVANT IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY FNG LEGAL.
THIS LEVEL III GRIEVANCE HEARING IS CONCLUDED.
IT IS 6:05 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.