Aug 01, 2024 Called Board Meetings

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GOOD EVENING.

IT IS 5:30 ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 1ST, 2024.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

CALLED BOARD MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT.

IN ATTENDANCE, WE HAVE TRUSTEES WEIR, ZÁRATE, WESTON, LANDRUM, HARRISON AND MARKUM.

TRUSTEE BONE IS ABSENT.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT, SO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[C. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS D AND E ONLY]

WE ASK THAT CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.

SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES.

THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.

BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS.

AS A REMINDER, THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ANTI-HATE RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022, WHERE THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION.

SEX. GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE, OR POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED.

PER TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02 AND 42.05, AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105.

NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON.

THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

IF, AFTER ONE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, AN INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.

THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF COMMENTS.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRISTY SLAPE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM D ONE AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM D ONE REGARDING THE CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL LOCKER ROOM MODULAR BUILDING.

CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL IS ONE OF MANY ROUND ROCK ISD AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY SCHOOLS THAT ARE LISTED IN A COURT ORDER EXEMPTING THEM FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S TITLE NINE RULE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT TODAY.

LOCKER ROOMS, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING CONSIDERED FOR CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL AND OTHER PRIVATE SPACES INTENDED FOR FEMALES, MUST REMAIN COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE USE OF MALE STUDENTS, AND SHOULD BE ACCURATELY LABELED AS THE CHAPTER CHAIR OF MOMS FOR LIBERTY AND A MOTHER OF THREE DAUGHTERS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS HAVE FOR GIRLS WHEN THEIR SPACES ARE NOT PRIVATE AND SEPARATE FROM MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.

IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ROUND ROCK ISD TO ENSURE THAT IF THE CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL LOCKER ROOM IS FUNDED AND BUILT, THAT IT BE CLEARLY LABELED, WHETHER FOR MALE OR FEMALE STUDENTS, AND THAT IT DOES NOT INCORPORATE ODDITIES SUCH AS URINALS IN THE FEMALE SPACE AND FEMININE HYGIENE MACHINES IN THE MALE SPACE.

THIS WOULD BE A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TEXAS AND THE JUDGE WHO RULED IN THE CASE OF MOMS FOR LIBERTY EXPECT THAT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND SCHOOLS OF THE CHILDREN OF MOMS FOR LIBERTY MEMBERS, THE NEW AND RADICAL TITLE NINE RULE WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[D. DISCUSSION ITEMS]

AZAIEZ NOT EMAIL ME TO AVOID TOMA ISSUES OF ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS IN GREATER DETAIL OR STILL HAD QUESTIONS.

FOLLOWING THE CBC PRESENTATION, I DID INCLUDE A LIST OF THINGS THAT I NOTED ON OUR CONVERSATION, BUT THERE IF YOU HAD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO, PLEASE NOTIFY ADMINISTRATION AND THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS WELL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE 20.

WELL, THE 17 ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS WE TALKED ABOUT THEN 18, 19 AND 20 POSSIBLE OTHER ITEMS. THIS IS REALLY A TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHETHER YOU KNOW YOU LIKE OR DISLIKE A PROJECT MORE SCOPE, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

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WE DID RECEIVE A VERY LENGTHY, I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO TEN PAGES OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED THIS AFTERNOON, AND ARE THOSE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA OR.

YEAH, THEY ARE. OKAY. SO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW AS WELL, AND I WOULD LIKE TO RUN THIS MEETING LIKE WE RAN THE JULY 18TH MEETING THAT EVERYBODY WILL GET TWO MINUTES.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL TIMES, BUT LET'S TRY TO STAY WITHIN TWO MINUTES ON OUR ORIGINAL TIME PERIOD FOR OUR FIRST ON EVERY ITEM. SO SOME OF THESE MAY REQUIRE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

SOME OF THEM MAY NOT, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT A LOT OF THESE HIGH PROJECTS RIGHT HERE.

SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM D ONE, CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL CLASSROOM ADDITION AND LOCKER ROOM, MODULAR BUILDING.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT I RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TODAY, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS GOES INTO MY TIME OR NOT, BUT IT'S MORE INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY THE LOCKER ROOM.

ONE THING THAT I DID ASK IN THE MEETING ON THE 18TH ABOUT THIS LOCKER ROOM IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE DISTRICT OF A SIZABLE TEAM THAT IS IN A PORTABLE/KIND OF MODULAR BUILDING.

THERE IS A HISTORY BEHIND THIS PROJECT, STARTING BACK IN MAY OF 2016.

THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, NOBODY ON THE CURRENT BOARD WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.

FUNDED $856,367.19 TO APPROVE EXPANSION OF THE CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC LOCKER ROOM, AND THEN THAT WAS OKAY.

SO MAKE SURE YOU MIGHT WANT TO WRITE THESE DATES DOWN IF YOU'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING ALONG, BUT THAT WAS MAY 19TH OF 2016.

AUGUST 17TH OF 2017.

THE BOARD APPROVED THE USE OF $682,000 FOR FINISHING LOCKER ROOMS AND RESTROOM FACILITIES AT CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THESE ALL THESE MOTIONS DID PASS.

IN A BOARD UPDATE IN JANUARY 18TH OF 2018, IT THERE WAS A BOARD UPDATE THAT SAID THE CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL LOCKER ROOM AND RESTROOM ADDITION IS FINISHED BUT THEN THERE WAS A BOARD UPDATE ON AUGUST 11TH OF 2017.

KIND OF GOING BACKWARDS A LITTLE, SAYING THAT IT HAS BEEN DELAYED FROM THE ORIGINAL START DATE.

START DATE RESULTING IN THE PROJECT NOT BEING COMPLETED ON TIME AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

WE HAVE PROVIDED A TIMELINE BELOW.

I'LL GET ALL OF THIS SENT OUT TO THE BOARD.

SO YOU HAVE A HARD COPY OF THIS AS WELL, BUT BASICALLY WITH THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY FUNDED AND THERE WAS ALMOST $2 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR A PERMANENT LOCKER ROOM AT CEDAR RIDGE, BUT WHAT THEY FOUND IS THE AREA THAT THEY HAD PLANNED ON PUTTING IT.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS A WATER MAIN THAT WAS RUNNING THROUGH THAT AREA WHICH WAS GOING TO EXPAND, INCREASE THE COST.

SO THERE WAS NOT ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THAT TIME TO INCREASE THE SCOPE FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE MOVING THAT WATER MAIN AND DOING SOMETHING WITH THE EASEMENT.

AGAIN, I JUST FOUND THIS OUT LAST NIGHT, SO I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GET THIS OUT TO THE BOARD.

ACTUALLY, I JUST FOUND OUT THE HISTORY FULL HISTORY TODAY, BUT I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A PROJECT OR THE BOARD HAD ADDRESSED THIS BEFORE.

SO THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY ABOUT CEDAR RIDGE, WHICH KIND OF TIES INTO THE 24 CLASSROOM ADDITION, CEDAR RIDGE WAS ORIGINALLY ON WHICH BOND 2004.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE 2004 BOND.

THAT BOND FAILED, SO IT WENT BACK ON THE 2005 BOND, AND WHEN THEY PUT IT BACK ON THE 2005 BOND THEY CUT THE PROJECT THE SIZE OF THE SCHOOL DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY TO REDUCE THE COST.

SO WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY CUT OFF AREAS, AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH STONY POINT WHEN IT WAS BUILT IS TO GET A LESSER PROJECT PRICE.

WINGS WERE CUT OFF AND SO NOW CEDAR RIDGE WAS OPENED IN THE FIRST YEAR THEY HAD NO PORTABLES, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ROLLING ENROLLMENT TYPE THINGS WHERE IT WAS OPENED WITH THE NINTH GRADE.

THEN THE SECOND YEAR WAS NINTH AND 10TH.

THE SECOND YEAR THAT IT WAS OPENED, 12 PORTABLES WERE PUT IN THE BACK AND THEY'VE NEVER LEFT.

NOW, CURRENTLY, CEDAR RIDGE HAS 18 PORTABLES AND A PORTABLE LOCKER ROOM.

SO THIS CAMPUS HAS BEEN PROMISED THIS LOCKER ROOM IN THE PAST.

I TOURED THE MODULAR LOCKER ROOM LAST NIGHT, AND IT IS DEFINITELY MEANT TO BE A TEMPORARY SPACE.

THEY HAVE SEVEN SHOWERHEADS.

THEY HAVE FIVE TOWEL RACKS.

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TWO OR THREE, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT THIS IS FOR AT LEAST THE VARSITY LOCKER.

THE VARSITY TEAM, I THINK OTHER TEAMS MAY USE IT.

I'M NOT SURE SPACE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE REALLY A TEAM MEETING.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KIND OF KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND THE PROJECT AND I THINK IN OUR QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED, IT WOULD BE.

WAS THERE A PRICE IN THERE, DR.

AZAIEZ IN WHAT A SCOPE WOULD BE IF WE ADDED SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I DON'T THINK WE PRICED IT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK WE HAD THE EXACT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

SO GIVEN THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? TRUSTEE HARRISON.

YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT CAN.

AMY'S JUST TURNED ON, SO I'VE GOT.

I'LL GO AHEAD WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THEN WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE WESTON. THEN WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE WEIR WITH THE POND AND WITH THE DIFFERENT CONSTRAINTS.

CAN THAT BE SCOPED OUT TO BE A PERMANENT BUILDING? AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE REQUEST FROM THE COACHES? IS THERE ANY FEEDBACK FROM COACHES AND FAMILIES ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE A LONG TERM SOLUTION? I TALKED TO TWO COACHES LAST NIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

FIRST, I TALKED TO THE HEAD COACH AND I TALKED TO THE ASSISTANT COACH LAST NIGHT.

CEDAR RIDGE. WHAT SPORT? OH, FOOTBALL, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST USED FOR A FOOTBALL LOCKER ROOM AND MOSTLY USED FOR VARSITY.

THEY HAVE ANOTHER SUB VARSITY LOCKER ROOM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A PE TYPE LOCKER ROOM INSIDE.

THIS BUILDING IS ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, ISOLATED.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ONLY ONE COACH IN THERE.

ALL THE OTHER COACHES ARE IN THE BUILDING.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY SEPARATED, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER OF OUR CAMPUSES WHERE THERE, AND IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL.

COACH MAKE SURE YOU ALSO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY BOARD MEMBER KNOWS WHO YOU ARE.

I'M SORRY. I THINK SHEILA'S BACK THERE SOMEWHERE.

SO THAT WAY SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AGAIN.

COACH CHEATHAM, ATHLETIC DIRECTOR HERE AT ROUND ROCK.

I DID TALK TO COACH ROBINSON, AND I WAS IN THE DISTRICT AT ROUND ROCK.

WHENEVER THEY WERE BUILDING THAT FACILITY, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A CONSTRAINT WITH SPACE, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH MOST A LOT OF OUR ATHLETIC FACILITIES, BUT THEY WERE PUT INTO THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, SAM, IS IT I MEAN, HOW IS IT? HE SAID, IT'S NICE. I MEAN, IT'S GOOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE MORE SPACE, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S REALLY I MEAN, IN ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND LOCKER ROOM PROJECTS THAT I'VE EVER BEEN THROUGH FOR 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A COMMON THEME.

YOU MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH LOCKERS TO HOUSE EVERYBODY, BUT SOMETIMES THE SPACING IS JUST HAVING ENOUGH SPACE FOR THEM TO BE IN THERE AT ONE TIME, AND A LOT OF TIMES COACHES JUST ROTATE IT AROUND TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A CERTAIN GROUP IN THERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

SO IT'S MORE LIKE SAFETY.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WE BECAUSE I ALSO TALKED WITH I WENT AND VISITED AND I SPOKE WITH THE COACH MYSELF, AND REALLY IT'S MORE THE SPACE.

I THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH LOCKERS BUT THEY ARE JUST KIND OF TOP OF EACH OTHER, MEANING THE SPACE ITSELF IS TINY AND WE HAVE HUNDREDS SOMETIMES OF STUDENTS.

YOU HAVE PE THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE DURING ATHLETIC PERIODS YOU HAVE THE ATHLETES THERE.

SO JUST THEY WANT IF POSSIBLE, THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE SPACE.

THE MODULAR BUILDING IS ACTUALLY, I TOURED IT, AND IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY NICE.

IT'S A DECENT SPACE.

IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION.

I DID TALK TO TWO FORMER TRUSTEES WHO WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN THIS WAS PASSED TODAY, AND BOTH SAID THAT THIS WAS NOT INTENDED FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THE FACILITY.

IF ANYBODY HAS WALKED IN A PORTABLE BUILDING, YOU KNOW HOW YOU GET THAT LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT IN THE FLOOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TEMPORARY BUILDING. IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE MODULAR.

IT'S NICER THAN THAN A PORTABLE BUILDING, I WILL GIVE YOU THAT, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING 75 FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND IT MUST SOUND LIKE A THUNDERING HERD WHEN THEY'RE ALL IN THERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A STABLE FLOOR IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PORTABLE BUILDING BUT ANYWAY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAD THE HISTORY ABOUT THIS.

IF WE WANT TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON PRICING, IF THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONSIDER FOR THIS BOND.

CAN WE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES ON LIKE NEXT STEPS OF WHAT WE WANT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ADDITION AS WELL, THE CLASSROOM ADDITION, BUT ON THE MODULAR, DO WE WANT TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHERE IT COULD POSSIBLY BE PUT, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, SCOPE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO, MADAM CHAIR WAS THIS NOT IDENTIFIED BY THE CBC? IT WAS A P3.

OH, THIS WAS A PRIORITY THREE.

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ANYTHING THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS FROM, FROM THE JULY 18TH MEETING THAT LEFT WERE NOT RESOLVED.

OR YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS ON JULY 18TH WERE PRETTY QUICK, AND OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE, AND SO I DIDN'T PUT THE FOLLOW UP, BUT IF WE HAD QUESTIONS THAT DID NOT HAVE ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, I PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER.

YOU PUT THESE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT HAD THAT WERE ROOTED IN QUESTION, NOT ALL OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM CAME FROM OTHER TRUSTEES WHO CONTACTED ADMINISTRATION IN THE LAST WEEK.

OKAY. SO WITH REGARD TO THIS FIRST OF ALL, DID DID TRUSTEE HARRISON GET AN ANSWER TO HER QUESTION? WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION, TIFFANIE? WHAT DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO BE? WHAT WAS THE DESIRE OF THE COACHES? WHAT FEEDBACK HAD COME FROM FAMILIES? SO AND I SAW THAT THIS QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED IN MORE DETAIL AUGUST 8TH IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND AFTER YOUR QUESTIONS, I KIND OF HAVE A PHILOSOPHY OF THOUGHT BEHIND PROJECTS LIKE THIS, BUT OKAY, I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING THAT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A COST TONIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE.

OKAY, TO ME, THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT IN MAKING A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT I WOULD WANT THE STAFF TO SPEND ANY TIME ON THAT, BUT BUT, MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAD GONE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU WENT BACK AND PULLED UP SOME FIGURES, SOME HISTORICAL FIGURES.

SO I WROTE DOWN ABOUT 800,000 AND THEN LIKE 682,000.

SO THAT MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED AND SPENT.

AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT? SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AGAIN, I WASN'T ON THE BOARD, JUST DONE A FEW PHONE CALLS.

OUR LOVELY PATTY PULLED SOME OLD MEETING MINUTES FOR ME, SO I HAVE A VERY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME.

I THINK ORIGINALLY THEY WERE PROMISED A LOCKER ROOM.

IF MAYBE YOU REMEMBER THIS AS WELL.

COACH CHEATHAM, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THEY WERE PROMISED A STANDING LOCKER ROOM, AND THEN THEY FOUND THE WATER MAIN, AND IN THE TIMELINE THAT I WAS GIVEN, IT SAID THAT BOARD FUNDING WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF '16.

DESIGN WAS DONE FALL OF '16.

THEY RECEIVED BIDS IN JANUARY OF '17.

THEN THEY REBID WITH EASEMENT ISSUES, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE WATER MAIN IN FEBRUARY OF '17 AND THEN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, THAT'S WHEN THE MODULAR BUILDING WAS DECIDED TO BE PUT IN THERE.

WHAT COACH ROBINSON TOLD ME LAST NIGHT, HE'S THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH AT CEDAR RIDGE.

WHAT HE TOLD ME LAST NIGHT IS AND I READ PART OF IT THAT THERE WAS RESTROOM FACILITIES.

20% OF THE FUNDING ACTUALLY WENT TO RESTROOM FACILITIES FOR THE 12 PORTABLES THAT ARE BACK THERE, AND SO PART OF THAT MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT ON THE LOCKER ROOM, BUT 20% OF IT WAS PUT OUT TO PUT TO PUT BATHROOMS FOR ALL THE PORTABLES.

BECAUSE AT CEDAR RIDGE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CAMPUS ALMOST ALL OF FOREIGN LANGUAGE AND IS IT HISTORY OR IN THE PORTABLES, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. PORTABLES ARE HISTORY AND AND FOREIGN LANGUAGE, AND SO THEY WERE DRY PORTABLES.

SO WHEN THEY PUT IN THIS MODULAR BUILDING, THE BACK HALF OF THE MODULAR BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY TURNED INTO RESTROOMS FOR THAT PORTABLES.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK INTO THE MAIN BUILDING TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.

SO PART OF THAT FUNDING WAS TO PUT THE MODULAR BUILDING IN, AND PART OF THE FUNDING WAS USED TO BUILD BATHROOMS FOR THE PORTABLES, BUT YOU BELIEVE ALL OF THAT MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M JUST THIS IS BASED ON MEETING MINUTES THAT I GOT TODAY AT 5:00.

OKAY. SO I HAVE NO IDEA.

DIDN'T DO AN AUDIT OF IT.

I ASSUME THAT THEY DID AUDITS OF HOW THE BOND MONEY WAS SPENT OUT OF BACK THEN.

WELL, I THINK SO. NO, IT CAME OUT OF GENERAL FUND.

IT WAS NOT BOND MONEY.

NO IT WAS IT WAS GENERAL FUND.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE SPENDING HISTORY.

SO THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY COME UP TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER.

THE OTHER THING, CAN I GET CLARITY? SO CEDAR RIDGE FOOTBALL FIELD AND THIS LOCKER ROOM THAT'S CURRENTLY IN A PORTABLE THAT IS JUST FOR PRACTICES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO THEIR FRIDAY NIGHT, THEY DON'T DO THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES.

THIS ISN'T EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIELD.

THIS IS JUST A LOCKER ROOM FOR THE SCHOOL FOR THEM TO GET DRESSED FOR THEM, FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

YES. VARSITY FOOTBALL LOCKER ROOM.

THEY DON'T USE THIS FOR GAMES.

THEY USE THIS FOR PRACTICES.

NO, IT'S JUST A LOCKER ROOM.

IT'S NOT A FIELD.

FRIDAY, THEY DON'T PLAY. KELLY REAVES OR SOMETIMES THE DRAGONS OR AWAY.

SO THIS IS A LOCKER ROOM THAT THEY USED DURING.

THEY USED EVERY DAY BEFORE PRACTICE AFTER PRACTICE CHANGING.

THEY STORE THEIR HELMETS AND THEIR SHOULDER PADS I DON'T KNOW NOT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YEAH, TRUSTEE WEIR.

SO ACTUALLY, IT WAS ON THE 2014 BOND IS WHERE THEY GOT THE MONEY TO DO THE LITTLE BUILDING FOR THE LOWER.

I GUESS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE VARSITY, BUT THEY DIDN'T END UP USING IT FOR VARSITY.

THE ONE THAT THEY STUCK OUT THERE BY THE FIELD, WHICH I GUESS YOU'VE NOW SAID IS FOR THE SUB VARSITY TEAMS.

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WHAT'S IN THE LITTLE BUILDING? THERE IS A LITTLE BUILDING OUT THERE RIGHT BY THE STADIUM? NO, AT THE END OF THE PRACTICE FIELD.

ISN'T THERE PART OF A LOCKER ROOM OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY LOCKER ROOM OUT.

BY THE FIELDS, I MEAN THERE IS ONE.

THERE'S THREE PORTABLES RIGHT BY THE END OF THE PRACTICE FIELD IN BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE PRACTICE FIELD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO LOOK UP 2014 AND I COULDN'T FIND IT, BUT IT WAS ON THERE IN 2014.

THE MEETING MINUTES, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE BECAUSE YOU KNOW A LOT MORE OF THE HISTORY THAN I DO, BUT THE MEETING MINUTES SAID THAT THEY APPROVED THE USE FROM THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND BALANCE.

YEAH. I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T DOUBT IT BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MONEY, BUT I MEAN, I DEFINITELY THINK I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH BECAUSE THE COACHES DIDN'T REALLY ASK FOR THIS, AND TO ME, I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE OVER $1 BILLION RIGHT NOW AND I AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH IF THE COACH DIDN'T ASK FOR IT AND IT WAS A P3 AND THE CBC DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, FOR US TO ADD HOWEVER MUCH MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE THE 25 MILLION.

I MEAN, I AGREE, THE UPGRADE FOR THE CLASSROOMS WAS NECESSARY TO GET OUR STUDENTS BACK INSIDE FOR THEIR COURSES, THEIR REQUIRED COURSES, BUT I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY.

I WILL JUST TELL YOU I'M NOT LIKELY TO BE IN FAVOR OF THAT TO ADD THIS.

ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEE MARKUM.

YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT.

I'M GLAD TO KNOW THE HISTORY.

YOU KNOW, MY KIDS AREN'T IN HIGH SCHOOL YET, AND I DON'T LIVE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, SO I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE HISTORY.

IT'S JUST HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT A COST, AND I FEEL LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN LOOKING AT, AS FAR AS COST GOES, IT'S ALMOST.

I ALMOST FEEL LIKE I NEED THREE DIFFERENT PRICING STRUCTURES TO LOOK AT, TO EVEN CONSIDER IT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TOWARD WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE ESTIMATE THAT MEETS OUR APPROVED ED SPECS? BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING NEW, THEN WE'RE WANTING TO BUILD TOWARD THE FUTURE, WHICH IS WHICH SHOULD ALIGN WITH OUR ED SPECS, BUT TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE BECAUSE WE AREN'T HEARING IT FROM THE COACHES THAT THEY NEED A DIFFERENT KIND OF SPACE.

TO ME, IT WOULD BE AN ESTIMATE FOR WHAT? WHAT DOES AN EXPANDED MODULAR BUILDING LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS LOOK LIKE AND THEN WHAT IS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT MEETS OUR APPROVED ED SPECS LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THREE DIFFERENT TIERS THAT MAY ALLOW FOR SOME EXPANSION THERE, BUT MAYBE NOT.

YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST WE COULD GO RIGHT NOW.

SURE. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. SO I THINK YOU HAVE A FEW.

OH, TRUSTEE HARRISON I'M IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING MORE INFORMATION AND TRUSTEE MARKUM I REALLY LIKE YOUR KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT MODELS.

NOT TO PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE ADMINISTRATION TO BRING SO MUCH INFORMATION.

I THINK MY OVERALL PHILOSOPHY IS TO STOP MANDATING THINGS THAT WE CAN PRETTY PERMANENTLY AND ROBUSTLY FIX, AND IF WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO ADD MODULAR STRUCTURES, MORE PORTABLES, I'M REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT.

THIS IS A P3 ITEM, BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE ANY KIND OF INFORMED DECISION WITHOUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND IN MY MIND, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WAYS THAT I THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO YET.

SO I'M OPEN, BUT IT'S JUST I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN DISCUSS IT BEFORE THE EIGHTH IF WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO GO OFF OF.

OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD, I THINK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, JUST I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.

I KNOW SCOTT IS HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GIVE.

I KNOW IT'S VERY HARD TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE LIKE AN EXACT ESTIMATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

SURE. SO I MEAN, I'VE GOT THE SPEC UP.

THE EXISTING MODULAR IS 4000FT².

IF WE WERE TO JUST REPLACE THAT WITH NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 3.6 MILLION.

SO THAT'S PERMANENT SQUARE FOOTAGE ATTACHED TO THE CURRENT BUILDING, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE MODULAR OBVIOUSLY WILL PUT A PERMANENT SOLUTION INSTEAD OF THE MODULAR.

IT WILL BE AN UPGRADE, BUT I THINK THE ISSUE WITH THE SPACE THAT THE COACH WAS TALKING ABOUT WON'T BE FIXED UNLESS WE INCREASE THAT SPACE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THE GESTURE REPLACED THE MODULAR EXACT SAME SPACE? PRETTY MUCH, BUT IT'S A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION.

WILL BE ABOUT 3.6, BUT IF WE WANT TO EXPAND IT BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW, ALSO PART OF THAT MODULAR BUILDING IS ACTUALLY USED FOR RESTROOM FOR THE PORTABLES, AND I'M ASSUMING AS WE BUILD THIS NEW CLASSROOM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NEED THOSE RESTROOMS ANYMORE BECAUSE HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEW WING THAT WE'RE ADDING.

SO ALSO THAT COULD GIVE A MORE SPACE BUT ALSO I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING FOR OUR FEMALE ATHLETES, SAME THING WE'RE DOING FOR OUR MALE ATHLETES.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE AS WELL.

I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL, BUT THEY PLAY A VARIETY OF OTHER SPORTS TOO.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOME MORE SPACE.

SO I THINK DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TRUSTEE TRUSTEES, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU GET

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IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK YOU HAVE AND I WILL TELL.

THE REASON WHY THIS CAME UP FOR ME WAS I SAW THAT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL WAS GETTING A AND NOW I CAN'T FIND THE EXACT PROJECT LINE, BUT WAS GETTING, I THINK, 2.1 MILLION OR 3 MILLION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER TO RENOVATE THEIR LOCKER ROOM, AND SO I JUST I TRIED TO I'M TRYING TO APPROACH THIS BOND FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT OF IF WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH ONE SCHOOL, WHAT OTHER SCHOOLS NEED TO BE TOUCHED, WHAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TOUCHED, AND PERHAPS CEDAR RIDGE DOESN'T NEED IT, AND PERHAPS ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL DOESN'T NEED IT FOR THEIR LOCKER ROOM, TOO, I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE BOTH OF THEM NEED IT.

I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM EVERY SCHOOL IN OUR DISTRICT, AND NOT JUST THE ONES THAT WERE THE LOUDEST YOU KNOW, OR THERE WAS A CONNECTION OR SOMEBODY SERVED ON THE CBC.

SO THAT'S OUR KIND OF MARCHING ORDERS FROM THIS.

SO THE OTHER PART OF ITEM D ONE IS THE CLASSROOM EXPANSION FOR CEDAR RIDGE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE LEAVING ON THE BOND? I THINK TRUSTEE WEIR SAID IT WAS 25 MILLION.

IT SAYS 25 IN OUR SPREADSHEET AND THIS IS THE SPREADSHEET FROM THE LAST MEETING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN UPDATED OR NOT.

I KNOW IN THE QUESTIONS, DR.

AZAIEZ, YOU HAD SAID Y'ALL WERE LOOKING AT WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN IF THERE ARE WATER MAINS AND THINGS UNDERNEATH THAT MAY.

SO WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY TOLD IS THAT IF YOU KNOW THE OVERHEAD OF CEDAR RIDGE, THEY HAVE AN A HALL, A B HALL AND A C HALL, AND THIS WOULD GO AT THE END OF THOSE THREE HALLS TO MAKE THEM NOW CONNECTING.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T CONNECT, THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE FINGERS FROM THE MAIN BUILDING, AND THIS WOULD BOOK IN THOSE THREE WINGS SO THAT THEY ALL CONNECTED IS WHAT I WAS TOLD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL BUT ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT TO US BY THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING.

THAT MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID TO MCNEIL FOR THE SCIENCE WING ACROSS THE BACK JUST TO CONNECT.

SO THEN.

OKAY. NO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH CLASSROOMS. ANYBODY? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM ITEM D ONE, AND PERHAPS YOU CAN GET US SOME INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ANALYZE AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SAY THAT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

OKAY. NEXT IS DRAGON FOOTBALL STADIUM AND AN ADDITIONAL STADIUM, ATHLETIC STADIUM COMPLEX.

SEVERAL OF YOU HAD QUESTIONS.

DO WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? HOW DO YOU WHO WANTS TO KIND OF MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THIS OR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE? WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ACTUALLY WE HAVE FOUR.

THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE $10 MILLION FOR NEEDED BASIC RENOVATIONS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE GOT THAT.

I ASKED THAT IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE GOT WHAT THAT 10 MILLION WOULD ACTUALLY COVER OR MAYBE I DID.

SORRY, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE.

DID WE GET A RESPONSE ON WHAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER JUST THE $10 MILLION? SO THE 10 MILLION IS GOING TO BE LIKE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND KIND OF HOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO IT IS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES TODAY.

LIKE IT COULD PROBABLY DO A SCOREBOARD, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT AN ELEVATOR TO THE PRESS BOX.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A FULLY ADA COMPLIANT FACILITY.

OKAY. SO THAT'S OUR $10 MILLION OPTION.

SECOND OPTION IS $30 MILLION, WHICH WOULD INCREASE SEATING CAPACITY.

IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO.

LIKE IF WE WANT TO INCREASE SEATING CAPACITY WE COULD LOOK AT KIND OF MAINTAINING THE STYLE THAT'S THERE OF THE STEEL STRUCTURE KIND OF BLEACHERS AND EXPAND CAPACITY THERE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING HOME SIDE AND REPLACE IT WITH A CONCRETE STRUCTURE LIKE KELLY REEVES, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXPAND CAPACITY, AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF KNOW MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO THERE, BUT WE KIND OF USE THAT $30 MILLION BUDGET AS KIND OF A A GOOD NUMBER TO START WITH, TO IMPROVE THE FACILITY, BUT THERE'S OPTIONS FOR AS FAR AS WHAT WE COULD DO WITH IT.

OKAY. THEN OUR THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO CONSIDER A SEPARATE STANDALONE ATHLETIC FACILITY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS IN THE DISTRICT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT THAT ON.

WE COULD PUT IT IN THE PEARSON RANCH AREA.

OR WE COULD PUT IT IN THE GRIMES PROPERTY.

SO THAT WOULD BE A THIRD OPTION.

I'VE HEARD 60 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE MOST ECONOMICAL THAT WE COULD GET.

WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE.

HOW MANY SEATINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST A REMINDER, TRUSTEES.

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SO THAT WOULD BE OPTION NUMBER THREE WOULD BE TO GO FOR A $60 MILLION STANDALONE-ISH, NOT STANDALONE-ISH, BUT 60 MILLION-ISH STANDALONE ATHLETIC FACILITY.

FOURTH OPTION IS DO NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF OUR ATHLETIC COMPLEXES.

DON'T DO ANY DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, DON'T UPGRADE DRAGON STADIUM AND DON'T BUILD A STANDALONE FACILITY.

SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LIGHTS ON.

WE'LL START WITH TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO I'LL JUST ECHO SOMETHING THAT I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT I'LL PUT IT IN DIFFERENT TERMS TODAY.

I THINK IF YOU WANT THIS PROP TO FAIL, THEN TRY REBRANDING IT FROM DRAGON STADIUM.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT REBRANDING.

I WOULD NOT BE FOR ANY REBRANDING TO REMOVE THE NAME.

I ALSO HAVE A REALIZATION OF THE ECONOMIC REALITIES THAT I WOULD APPLY NOT ONLY TO THIS PROJECT, BUT TO ANY PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THE CURRENT ECONOMY THAT WE'RE IN, THAT IT'S FAIR TO ASK OUR TAXPAYERS TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT IS NEEDED.

I THINK WE NEED TO NOT BE TONE DEAF TO THE ECONOMY IN WHICH OUR TAXPAYERS ARE LIVING.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A TIME TO DO A WANTS-BASED BONDS OR PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'D BE GREAT. I MEAN, MY KIDS WENT TO THIS SCHOOL.

I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DRAGON STADIUM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NOW IS THE TIME FOR THAT.

SO MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY SURROUNDING THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT WOULD WHAT WE COULD GET FOR A BASIC RENOVATION, AND I DO REALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT PARKING OPTIONS, BECAUSE WHEN I THINK ABOUT MY YEARS AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL WITH MY CHILDREN HERE AND DR.

AZAIEZ MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, PARKING IS AN ISSUE.

PARKING IS A PROBLEM. THAT IS A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM.

SO I WOULD WANT RESOURCES I THINK DIRECTED TO THAT.

SO I WANT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE NEED AND WHAT ARE SOME PARKING SOLUTIONS.

THOSE ARE WHERE MY BEGINNING QUESTIONS ARE ROOTED IN FOR THIS PROJECT.

TRUSTEE WESTON I WILL SAY IT CAME IN LATE TODAY, SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT.

I DID ASK ABOUT PARKING FOR DRAGON STADIUM.

IT IS IN THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT AND IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

BECAUSE I AGREE IT'S A PARKING IS A PROBLEM EVEN FOR STUDENTS AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET A PARKING PASS YOUR JUNIOR YEAR, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE $10 MILLION, PROBABLY TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL PARKING.

IT WOULD PROBABLY GO WHERE THE EXISTING 100 BUILDING IS.

SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS SENT IN THE BOARD QUESTION AND ANSWERS TODAY.

SO JUST THAT LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.

WELL I APPRECIATE THAT, AND YEAH, I OBVIOUSLY I WAS AWAY FROM MY IPAD TODAY SO I DID NOT READ THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE SOME MULTIPLE OPTIONS BECAUSE MOST I FIND IN LIFE MOST PROBLEMS HAVE MULTIPLE SOLUTIONS.

SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR PARKING? OKAY. THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND I KNOW SCOTT IS HERE, BUT ALSO LINDSEY, YOU REMEMBER LINDSEY WRIGHT IS HERE.

SO I KNOW SHE WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, I THINK TO SOLVE THE PARKING LOT SITUATION, WHICH IS I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TO GET TO HAVE SOME SOLUTION TO IT. IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY OR WE'RE PLANNING ON MAYBE ALLOCATING TO THE STADIUM.

IT'S MORE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MASTER PLAN AND US, MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF MONEY, RIGHT, LINDSEY? IT'S THE $120 MILLION TO FIRST ADD SOMETHING.

WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS EMAILED, BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION, IN MY VIEW, NEEDS TO BE HELD IN THE PUBLIC AND IN THE OPEN FOR OUR PARENTS AND OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF AND OUR ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AND TALKING ABOUT.

SO PLEASE.

YEAH SO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DRAGON STADIUM, IT DIDN'T TOUCH ON PARKING, BUT THE PARKING CONVERSATION DID HAPPEN WHEN LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO ROUND ROCK HOLISTICALLY, AND SO AS PART OF THE ROUND ROCK MASTER PLAN, AS DR.

AZAIEZ TALKED ABOUT, THERE IS THE DESIRE TO MASTER PLAN TO SOLVE FOR THAT AND SO A LOT WOULD DEPEND ON YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE TORN DOWN, ONE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS TO BE TORN DOWN WOULD BE THE 100 BUILDING, AND SO IF THIS WERE TORN DOWN, WHAT TO DO WITH THAT SPACE WOULD BE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND WHICH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WOULD BE RECEIVED.

SO THAT WOULD BE THAT.

COULD THAT POTENTIALLY BE AN AUDITORIUM SIMILAR TO STONY POINT IN CEDAR RIDGE, OR DOES THE COMMUNITY REALLY FEEL LIKE WE JUST NEED PARKING BECAUSE WE'RE SO SPACE CONSTRAINED? SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S EASY TO SAY, OH, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE MORE PARKING, IT REALLY DOES HAVE TO BE PART OF A MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED IT. JUST UNTIL YOU FULLY MASTER PLAN WHAT THE FOOTPRINT OF ROUND ROCK THE NEW ROUND ROCK.

IF YOU GUYS DO APPROVE THE TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD OF BUILDINGS UNTIL YOU MASTER PLAN THAT YOU DON'T, THERE ISN'T A CLEAR PICTURE ON WHAT THE SPACE LEFT AND IS AVAILABLE IS GOING TO BE, AND ONCE YOU HAVE THE PLAN FOR THOSE BUILDINGS, THEN THAT SPACE OPENS UP, AND THEN THERE'S THOSE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH

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SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT A PARKING, A PARKING ISSUE IS SEPARATE FROM DRAGON STADIUM? WELL, IT'S KIND OF ALL IN THE SAME CAMPUS AND SO AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE IN A CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIMATE THAT FUNDING A MASTER PLAN CHANGED TO ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, I DON'T I'M NOT THERE.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN HOW FAR $10 MILLION WOULD GO AT DRAGON STADIUM, SPECIFICALLY IF WE COULD GET SOME SPECIFICS ON WHAT I KNOW YOU SAID DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING, IF THERE ARE ANY MORE SPECIFICS THAT WE CAN GET ON THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING IT.

OKAY. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE COST WISE TO ADD THE ELEVATOR AND MAKE THE PRESS BOX ADA COMPLIANT? THAT IS, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T JUST PULL THAT OUT OF THE $30 MILLION.

SURE. SO THE EXISTING LIKE IT'S BASICALLY A MODULAR BUILDING THAT IS 30FT UP IN THE AIR.

IT'S NOT A CONCRETE STRUCTURE LIKE WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT KELLY REEVES, AND SO IT WOULD REALLY HAVE TO BE A FULL PRESS BOX REPLACEMENT WITH AN ELEVATOR.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE LEANDER STADIUM.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THAT ONE, BUT THAT IS THAT'S BASICALLY DRAGON STADIUM.

IT STILL HAS THE STRUCTURAL STEEL BLEACHERS, BUT IT DOES HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF PRESS BOX.

IT'S JUST BIGGER.

WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY COMPLETELY REPLACE THAT PRESS BOX IN ITS ENTIRETY.

I CAN DO SOME HOMEWORK ON GETTING A COST, BUT I WOULD SAY JUST TO REPLACE THAT PRESS BOX, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 5 OR 6 MILLION.

OKAY. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU. YOU CANNOT JUST DO THE PRESS BOX.

OKAY? SO IT IS A FACILITY.

YOU MAKE IT ALL ADA COMPLIANT, WHICH IT SHOULD ALL BE ADA COMPLIANT.

IT'S MORE TO IT. THAT'S $30 MILLION.

IT'S NOT ADA THAN THE PRESS BOX.

SO THEN I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DOES IT COST.

BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S LIKE A LARGE USE FACILITY FOR MANY SCHOOLS ACROSS THE DISTRICT THAT'S NOT ADA COMPLIANT.

SO MY QUESTION IS TO MAKE DRAGON STADIUM ADA COMPLIANT, WHICH IT SHOULD BE IN MY VIEW, IS THAT $30 MILLION WITHOUT A REBRAND? I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REBRANDING.

YES. THAT'S WHY WE PROVIDED A $30 MILLION NUMBER.

OKAY. SO THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THE PHASE REALLY OF SAYING LIKE, NO, JUST SLICE IT.

THIS ISN'T RELEVANT RIGHT NOW UNLESS IT'S VERY OBVIOUS.

SO I AM INTERESTED IN THE EAST SIDE STADIUM FOR THE PURPOSE OF EQUITY, BUT I KNOW IN THIS ECONOMIC CLIMATE I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE TOTALITY OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO THAT THEN WE CAN SAY NO, AND WE WERE QUOTED, I THINK 60 MILLION AND KIND OF LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, IS THAT MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, IS THAT HIGH? ARE THERE ANY COST SAVINGS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS WITH THAT? DOES IT HAVE TO BE 60 MILLION AND COACH CHEATHAM? MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM COACH CHEATHAM OR STAFF ABOUT THIS AS WELL AND WHILE HE'S COMING UP, IF YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE USE OF A STANDALONE FACILITY, I KNOW AUSTIN IS WONDERFULLY PLACED BETWEEN DALLAS AND HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO, AND WHAT KIND OF USE WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, AND BY USE, I MEAN REVENUE BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES IF WE WERE TO BUILD A SECOND YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU SAY STANDALONE, IT'S JUST FOR A FIELD LIKE KELLY REEVES.

MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT LARGE.

IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYTHING IS WEST AND GROWTH IS COMING EAST.

SO I MEAN, IT'S COMING WEST, TOO, BUT GROWTH IS COMING EAST.

SO MY CURIOSITY IS LIKE, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? NOT JUST NOT TO KELLY REEVES.

I THINK THAT MAYBE NOT THAT BIG, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE GET A LOT OF RENTALS AND PLAYOFFS AT KELLY REEVES, BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I THINK THAT, THAT IT ALLOWS FOR IS IT ALLOWS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OF A COMMON MOVEMENT AROUND FOR THE DIFFERENT GAMES AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED AS FAR AS GETTING ALL THE GAMES SCHEDULED AND THAT.

CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO RIGHT NOW? SOMETIMES WE'RE ON A THURSDAY FRIDAY SCHEDULE, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IN THE NEXT 1 TO 5 YEARS, IS THERE POSSIBILITY OF US HAVING TO GO THROUGH A THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY SCHEDULE? NOT UNTIL WE BUILD ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL.

OKAY, WE'RE STILL IN A GOOD PLACE WITH THAT.

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SO IT INTERRUPTS A LITTLE BIT OF OUR FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR PRESEASON GAMES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE FINE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO I GUESS MY OVERALL CAN I ACTUALLY ASK JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT? IF WE HAD TWO STADIUMS PLUS DRAGON, COULD WE ELIMINATE THURSDAY GAMES? YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, THAT IS AN ACADEMIC CONCERN.

I KNOW THIS IS TEXAS AND FOOTBALL REIGNS SUPREME, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT IGNORANT OF THE ECONOMIC REALITIES, BUT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT, THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL HAS ACADEMIC IMPLICATIONS, NOT JUST FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM, BUT FOR THE BAND AND ALL THAT GOES INTO THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL.

SO IT WOULD BE VERY EASY.

YEAH, DRILL TEAM, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SAY AND DISMISS, BUT I DO THINK I WOULD LIKE A NUMBER, AND I DO THINK I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT NUMBER COULD COME DOWN FROM 60 MILLION. I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING, THOUGH.

IF WE'RE GOING AWAY, WE DON'T HAVE IF WE GO TO LEANDER AND THEY'RE BOOKED UP, WE MAY HAVE TO PLAY A THURSDAY GAME AT LEANDER IN THE LEANDER DISTRICT JUST AS FAR AS ROUND ROCK.

WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

THANK YOU.

I THINK I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF YOU WHO HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS AND SPOKEN ALREADY.

I CAN SAY THAT FOR ME, AT A MINIMUM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MAKING THE STADIUM FULLY ADA COMPLIANT.

I AGREE, THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A LARGE SCALE FACILITY, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT WE'RE USING FOR SHARING.

THAT'S NOT FULLY ADA COMPLIANT.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF REBRANDING.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND THAT WE SHOULD.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE TO SPEND SOMETHING AND SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL, AND I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN A NEW FACILITY ON THE EAST SIDE.

I THINK IF WE ARE LOOKING AT 60 MILLION OR IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT DOWN FROM THAT, AND WE'RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD ON A SIDE OF OUR DISTRICT, THE ONLY SIDE WHERE WE ARE PROJECTED TO SEE GROWTH, THEN I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY AND FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT THE EAST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT HAS ALL OF THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO PREPARE FOR THAT GROWTH.

I ALSO WOULD BE IN FAVOR AND THIS WOULD GO OVER THE 60 MILLION MARK, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, TRUSTEE HARRISON MENTIONED LAST TIME BASKETBALL; WERE UP AND COMING IN BASKETBALL.

WE WANT A ROBOTICS FACILITY ON THAT SIDE OF THE DISTRICT.

IS THERE A POTENTIAL TO CREATE A MULTI-SPORT, MULTI-ACTIVITY FACILITY WHERE WE COULD HOUSE ROBOTICS, WHERE WE COULD DO MORE FOR BASKETBALL.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE, THE POTENTIAL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND OVER THERE.

ALL OF THE POTENTIAL FOR PROJECTED GROWTH ON THAT SIDE OF THE DISTRICT, AND WHAT WOULD THAT COST LOOK LIKE FOR AND I KNOW YOU GAVE ME SOME.

I LOOKED THROUGH THE RESPONSES AND YOU GAVE ME SOME EXAMPLES.

DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH THOSE COST OR, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATES FOR WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE? I DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE WERE BUILT.

I'M SORRY. I RESPONDED TO A TON OF QUESTIONS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXAMPLES.

HOLD ON, LET ME SEE. IF YOU CAN REFRESH MY MEMORY.

ONE WAS IN CY-FAIR, AND I THINK I'M AWARE OF THAT ONE, AND I DON'T THINK I'M THINKING OF.

THAT'S THE BERRY CENTER.

RIGHT. I DON'T THINK I'M THINKING OF ONE THAT LARGE.

IF THAT'S THE ONE I'M THINKING OF, THAT ONE WAS ASTRONOMICAL, BUT THERE'S THE NORTH SIDE'S FERRIS CENTER, THE TONY BURGER CENTER IN AUSTIN.

OKAY. OH, SORRY.

LET ME DO SOME HOMEWORK AND I'LL GET YOU A COST ON IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

IF I'M LOOKING AT THE CBC REPORT CORRECTLY, AS LONG AS THE BOND IS UNDER 1.25 BILLION, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT TAX RATE.

I KNOW IT KIND OF ALL. MAYBE LET'S--WELL IT POPPED UP OVER HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFYING.

DANIELLE HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TRUSTEE WESTON HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NOT WANTING THE TAXPAYERS TO HAVE TO FOOT THE BILL FOR THIS, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IN NEXT STEPS, WRITE THAT QUESTION DOWN AND BRING THAT BACK UP WHEN WE DO NEXT STEPS.

OKAY, AND THANK YOU. KIND OF PULL IT BACK TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT IT UNDER THIS ONE.

CAN I ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE LEGAL QUESTIONS.

DO YOU WANT THOSE TO BE HELD? CAN WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT ANY TIME? WE CAN GO INTO CLOSED AT ANY TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT GO IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT.

SO IF POSSIBLE, CAN YOU WRITE THEM DOWN? AND WE WHEN WE GO INTO CLOSED BECAUSE WE'RE POSTED TO GO INTO CLOSED AT THE END, UNLESS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER TO AND LET ME REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.

OKAY. THINK ABOUT IT.

OKAY. TRUSTEE WEIR.

THEN I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN TRUSTEE WESTON AND WE'LL START THE SECOND.

OH, ACTUALLY, TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK TRUSTEE MARKUM ABOUT THE QUESTION THAT SHE ASKED AND WHAT SHE WAS ENVISIONING.

SO I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER, AND I WILL JUST LOOK FOR THE AMOUNT THAT COMES FROM THAT, THOUGH I WOULD SAY, LET'S PLEASE PUT A TRACK.

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SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CAUTION US ON ADDING A LOT OF NEW THINGS AND MAYBE STICKING TO WHAT THE CBC ADVISED.

OKAY. TRUSTEE ZARATE, AND THEN I'LL HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN TRUSTEE WESTON.

THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS WELL I GUESS IT'S FOR SCOTT.

IF WE DO HAVE THIS SEPARATE STADIUM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE EAST SIDE AT $60 MILLION APPROXIMATELY, WE STILL NEED TO MAKE ADA.

WE STILL NEED TO MAKE DRAGON STADIUM ADA COMPLIANT RIGHT? I'M SORRY, THIS IS MY QUESTION FOR.

WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION IS.

BECAUSE WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING THERE? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF A FIFTH OPTION AND THIS MAY NOT BE VERY POPULAR, BUT LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ECONOMICAL STANDPOINT OF ACTUALLY DOWNGRADING DRAGON STADIUM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY.

STAY WITH ME.

HOLD ON. I HEAR THE FIRE ROARING DOWNGRADING DRAGON STADIUM AND PUTTING IN ANOTHER FACILITY ON THE EAST SIDE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE ADA ISSUES AND MAKE IT MORE OF A STADIUM LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE AT MCNEIL, AND LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE AT CEDAR RIDGE AND MAKE THIS KIND OF DOWNGRADED DRAGON STADIUM, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THOSE CAMPUSES, WHAT YOU HAVE AT WESTWOOD, WHAT YOU HAVE AT MCNEIL, WHAT YOU HAVE AT CEDAR RIDGE, AND THEN PUTTING THE MONEY INTO A STANDALONE FACILITY.

STAY WITH ME, BUT IS THAT COULD WE REACH THAT BECAUSE I STRUGGLE WITH SPENDING $30 MILLION ON A FACILITY THAT IS OLD PARKING IS A PROBLEM.

IT MAY GIVE US A LITTLE MORE SEATS, BUT IS IT REALLY GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS DISTRICT? ARE WE REALLY GOING TO BE LIKE, BE ABLE TO BRING IN AND HOST, YOU KNOW PLAYOFF GAME? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX ON THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE DO YOU HAVE ANY? WELL, I MEAN, IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY QUESTION REAL QUICK, EVEN IF WE BUILD THIS STADIUM ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO USE ROUND ROCK STADIUM FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, I WOULD THINK. RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT BIG, SO WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE IT ADA COMPLIANT, BUT NOT IF WE'RE GOING TO DOWNGRADE THE STADIUM.

THOSE KIDS ARE GOING TO PLAY. EVERYBODY PLAYS AT KELLY REEVES THEN WHILE WE'RE BUILDING THE NEW STADIUM? NO, BUT WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT BEEN ADA COMPLIANT EVER.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DOWNGRADE THE FACILITY, WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO WHILE THE STANDALONE FACILITY IS BEING BUILT, THEN WE DOWNGRADE DRAGON STADIUM WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND THE FULL 30 MILLION.

AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT ADA-COMPLIANT.

I JUST. OKAY.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ADA IS A BIG CONCERN WITH ME.

SO WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS LIKE IF WE ARE REALLY THINKING OUT OF THE BOX, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES? WHAT IS YOUR POINT. SO I KNOW I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IF I COULD GET MY QUESTION ON THE TABLE.

OKAY. NEXT TO YOUR QUESTION, THROW IT OUT THERE.

OKAY. CAN WE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY THAT DRAGON STADIUM IS NOT ADA COMPLIANT? I NOW I HAVE SPENT MORE OF MY TIME IN DRAGON STADIUM VOLUNTEERING IN THE CONCESSION STANDS THAN I HAVE IN THIS IN THE STANDS MYSELF BUT FROM MEMORY, I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE RAMPS THAT GO IN.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS IN DRAGON STADIUM.

I KNOW THERE I'VE BEEN UP TO THE PRESS BOX.

I KNOW YOU CAN ONLY ACCESS IT WITH STAIRS, BUT WHEN WE'RE SAYING IT'S NON-ADA COMPLIANT, CAN WE PLEASE DEFINE WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN WHAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL CHALLENGES IN DRAGON STADIUM.

SO THAT WAS A LOT.

OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT DENNIS, AND I'M WAITING FOR HIM TO CUT ME OFF, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TALK.

I THINK THAT THE ISSUE AND THE BIG CRITICAL PATH THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ADA COMPLIANCE IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A COMPETITION PRESS BOX.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF PEOPLE UP THERE, AND THAT REQUIRES THE ELEVATOR IF IT IS DOWNGRADED TO A STANDARD PRESS BOX LIKE WE HAVE AT THE OTHER, THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, I THINK THAT REQUIREMENT GOES AWAY, AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST TICKET ITEM FOR THAT ADA COMPLIANCE.

OKAY. SAY THAT AGAIN. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? SO THE COMPLIANCE ISSUE IS THAT WE'VE GOT A TWO STORY PRESS BOX THERE CURRENTLY THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

LIKE YOU SAID THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS IT IS WITH STAIRS.

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WHAT DO YOU MEAN IF WE DOWNGRADE IT? MAKE IT SIMILAR TO WHAT'S AT YOU MAKE IT A PRACTICE STADIUM, NOT A GAME STADIUM.

SO WE CAN'T. SO TO DO THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T PLAY.

IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A COMPETITION STADIUM BECAUSE WE'D BE PUTTING AN EAST SIDE COMPETITION STADIUM IN THERE, AND DRAGON STADIUM WOULD BECOME A FACILITY MORE LIKE WHAT'S AT CEDAR RIDGE AND WESTWOOD AND MCNEIL.

SO WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE SOLVING HERE THAT ADULTS $30 MILLION? WELL, I MEAN THAT MORE ADULTS CAN'T FIT UP THERE BECAUSE KIDS ARE STILL ABLE TO PLAY ON THIS FIELD.

THEIR PARENTS, EVEN THE ONES WHO HAVE PHYSICAL CHALLENGES, CAN STILL GO TO THE GAMES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESS BOX WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADA AND CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PRESS BOX THAT NEED TO BE ADA COMPLIANT IN ORDER TO HOLD A VARSITY FOOTBALL GAME THERE, I BELIEVE SO, AND THAT'S A $30 MILLION PROBLEM TO SOLVE. WE ARE LACKING WHEELCHAIR SPACES FOR BOTH HOME AND VISITORS, AND WE ARE LACKING WHEELCHAIR SPACES FOR BOTH HOME AND VISITOR SIDES IN THE SEATING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OR WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, BUT LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, CEDAR RIDGE.

YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE PRESS BOX IF YOU ARE MOBILITY LIMITED.

SO WHY IS THAT NOT A REQUIREMENT AT CEDAR RIDGE OR MCNEIL OR WESTWOOD? BECAUSE IT'S A PRACTICE FACILITY.

IT'S NOT A COMPETITION FACILITY.

WELL, BUT IT'S NOT A COMPETITION FACILITY FOR FOOTBALL, BUT IT IS FOR TRACK.

IT IS FOR SOCCER.

I MEAN, WE PLAY SOCCER HOME GAMES AT CEDAR RIDGE FIELD ALL DAY LONG.

WE PLAY TRACK.

WE DO TRACK MEETS AT CEDAR RIDGE ALL DAY LONG.

I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, BECAUSE I HAD KIDS IN BOTH OF THOSE SPORTS.

SO IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOOTBALL THAT THOSE STADIUMS ARE THEY HAVE TO BE ADA COMPLIANT IF THEY'RE FOOTBALL STADIUMS? I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PRESS BOX.

THAT'S THE DRIVER THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE ELEVATOR.

I THINK THAT IS THE DRIVER IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LEGALESE OF IT, BUT WE CAN DO MORE RESEARCH TO GET THAT ANSWER, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR OF WHAT REQUIRES THE ELEVATOR? CAN I HAVE MAYBE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? YES, IF I'M ALLOWED.

WE CAN'T GO BACK, BUT IF WE TOUCH SOMETHING GOING FORWARD, AND MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE HELPED IF WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF LIKE SHARED VALUES AHEAD OF THIS PROCESS.

IF WE HAVE TO TOUCH SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL TO MAKE EVERYTHING ADA COMPLIANT AND ACCESSIBLE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH IT YET, THEN WE'LL WAIT UNTIL WHATEVER BOND AND WHATEVER TIME THAT FACILITY IS UP.

I JUST PERSONALLY IN MY VALUES DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD OVERLOOK SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPROVE BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE OTHER STADIUMS AND THE OTHER FACILITIES, AND SO IS IT A VALUE THAT WE WANT ALL FACILITIES TO BE ADA AND WE'RE GOING TO SCRAP SOME OTHER THINGS AND DO THAT RIGHT NOW, OR BECAUSE THIS FACILITY REQUIRED SOME WORK, CAN WE SAY WE WANT IT TO BE ADA COMPLIANT? AND I MEAN, I DO HAVE VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF NOT ACCESSING THE PRESS BOX WITH MY TIME BEING A TEACHER AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH DID PRECLUDE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAD SOME VERY SPECIFIC MEDICAL NEEDS TO SUPPORT THEIR THEIR CHILDREN WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE IN A SETTING LIKE A PRESS BOX.

SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT ANYONE'S LIVED EXPERIENCE HERE, AND I KNOW THAT AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, HOW CAN WE LIVE INTO OUR VALUES MOVING FORWARD AS A BOARD? SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING, THIS THING IS LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE UP HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY THEN I DEFINITELY WANT TO HONOR IT, BUT I'M HOPING I CAN MAYBE SUMMARIZE THIS AT THIS POINT IS I THINK THIS BOARD IS STRUGGLING WITH BASICALLY A $100 MILLION PRICE TAG ON ATHLETIC STADIUMS. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

IS THAT TRUE THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH $100 MILLION? SO BUT WE SEE A NEED TO ADDRESS IN SOME WAYS ADA A POSSIBLY A NEW FACILITY AND HAVE THREE FACILITIES.

CAN ADMINISTRATION DR.

AZAIEZ CAN WE POSSIBLY GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROPOSAL RATHER THAN JUST 30 MILLION ON DRAGON STADIUM AND 60 MILLION ON A STANDALONE FACILITY THAT COULD POSSIBLY, LIKE, THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF HOW WE CAN SOLVE THIS.

TO LOOK AT THIS PRICE TAG OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THE BOND IS THAT IS THAT POSSIBLE? CAN WE LOOK AT THAT FROM A LIKE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS NEED, BUT HOW DO WE DO IT RATHER THAN SPENDING $100 MILLION? SURE WE CAN.

WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK. DOES THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZE EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS FOR THE MOST PART? MAYBE ONE MORE THING.

WE TALKED ABOUT ATHLETICS, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT THIS CAN TOUCH MORE THAN ATHLETICS IS INCREASING THE PARKING ON ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH INCREASES THE PARKING AT DRAGON

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IF THIS IS ALSO A ROBOTICS FACILITY AND OTHER SPORTS, THAT'S MORE THAN JUST FOOTBALL.

ARE THERE ANY TIE-INS TO THOSE? THE ONLY THING IS, AND I THINK IT'S, I LOVE THE IDEA.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE COST BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ANOTHER OR ATTACHING ANOTHER BUILDING TO IT, BUT THAT COULD ALSO ADDRESS I WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT SOME POINT THAT COULD ALSO ADDRESS SOME OTHER NEEDS.

YEAH. MAY I SHARE THIS WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

OH GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO BUT THIS IS AN OLD IF YOU CAN MOVE THE MICROPHONE IN FRONT OF YOU.

I SAW YOU PULLED THIS PICTURE UP AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD.

I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT.

THIS IS BEFORE THE NEW BUILDINGS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO PHASE BY PHASE IF IT'S OKAY.

SO CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE PROGRESSION OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE ADDED THE NEXT ONE PLEASE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.

RIGHT. THAT'S YOU.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, AND SO THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE THE LAST PHASE.

CAN YOU NEXT.

THERE WE GO. SO THAT'S TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT TRUSTEE.

WESTON TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING SPOT, AND I KNOW PART OF THE BOND OR THE PROPOSAL, I GUESS THAT CBC PUT FORWARD IS ADDING THAT WING RIGHT, WHICH IS LABELED PHASE FOUR. THEN WE CAN DEMOLISH THERE'S NO NEED FOR MANY OTHER BUILDINGS AND THAT WILL CLEAR IT, AND WHEN WE CLEAR IT OR DEMOLISH IT, THAT WILL CREATE MORE PARKING SPOTS, AND THEN WE'LL SOLVE THE PARKING SITUATION FOR THE STADIUM AND FOR THE SCHOOL AS A WHOLE.

YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? I'M SORRY, LINDSEY.

NO. YOU'RE FINE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN IF ALL THAT PARKING, THAT WHERE THAT PARKING IS, WAS ALSO PART OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS RECOMMENDING BEING MASTER PLANNED BUT THAT'S STILL NOT THE SAME LEVEL OF PARKING AS KELLY REEVES.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE DRAGON STADIUM COMPARABLE WHETHER THAT'S IN CAPACITY OR IN NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, IT'S STILL NOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE AT KELLY REEVES.

SO I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP THESE PICTURES.

THAT'S ACTUALLY D 11 TO TALK ABOUT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL MASTER PLAN.

SO LET'S TRY TO KEEP OUR FOCUS ON THE STADIUM.

THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL PICTURES AND MAY HELP YOU WITH JUST CONCEPT OF WHERE PARKING MAY FALL AND ALL OF THAT, BUT LET'S TRY TO STAY FOCUSED ON DRAGON STADIUM AND A POSSIBLE ATHLETIC STADIUM AND ANY QUESTIONS FROM THAT.

SO TRUSTEE HARRIS, I'M GOING TO TURN YOUR LIGHT OFF.

TRUSTEE WEIR DO YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE ZÁRATE DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ATHLETIC FACILITY? OR DRAGON STADIUM? TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO, MADAM CHAIR, I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING TOGETHER JUST I THINK WE'RE WANTING SOME MORE INNOVATIVE IDEAS, BUT AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT REGARDING MAKING THE PRESS BOX AT DRAGON STADIUM, ADA COMPLIANT IS A $30 MILLION PRICE TAG. IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, SHE'S SAYING NO.

SHE'S SAYING YES. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

IT WOULD IT WOULD DO THE ENTIRE STADIUM ADA COMPLIANT.

NOT JUST THE PRESS BOX.

JUST THE PRESS BOX IS KIND OF THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THAT.

OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE SOME A LA CARTE PRICING HERE AS WELL, AND MAYBE THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.

MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON.

WHAT ARE OUR VALUES AND WHAT PROBLEMS ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE? SO I THINK WHAT WOULD HELP US IS WE COULD POSSIBLY GET AN EXECUTIVE BRIEF ON THIS IS $10 MILLION OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

WHAT IT COVERS THIS IS IF WE DID YOU KNOW DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE PRESS BOX THIS WOULD BE PRESS BOX AND SCOREBOARD.

YEAH. KIND OF HOW AND WHAT LIKE MAYBE EVEN AT THE BOTTOM.

LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO A, B AND E OR YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO B, YOU HAVE TO DO E, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HOW THAT WOULD ALL FALL OUT, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT PRICING MODELS THAN A $60 MILLION ATHLETIC FACILITY.

I JUST I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH $60 MILLION FOR A FOOTBALL STADIUM.

CAN I GET A CLARIFYING QUESTION ALONG THOSE LINES? IS THE $60 MILLION BASED ON OUR SPECS? WE DON'T HAVE SPECS FOR STADIUMS BUT THE $60 MILLION IS BASICALLY KELLY REEVES COPY PASTE.

OKAY. WE COULD A OPTION TO MAKE IT LESS EXPENSIVE IS TO MAKE IT LIKE THE LEANDER STADIUM, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING IT THE POUR IN PLACE CONCRETE, IT'S THE STEEL BLEACHERS. OKAY.

OKAY. CAN YOU GET THAT BY NEXT THURSDAY? YES. OKAY. FABULOUS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT D TWO? MY LIGHT IS ON.

COULD WE GO TO D11 JUST SO THAT WE CAN KEEP GOING ON ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL? WOULD IT BE WE CAN DO THAT TO TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER? THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND JUST FOR MICHELLE IS KIND OF KEEPING TIME.

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AS LONG AS WE ARE BEING RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED I I'LL CLEAR OFF THE BOARD.

NOW, WE HAVE NO LIGHTS ON, AND WE'LL START BACK ANEW.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL CHANGES SLASH MASTER PLAN.

ITEM D 11.

TRUSTEE WEIR. SO, ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS IS FOR LINDSEY.

MADAM CHAIR.

I OR MAYBE THIS IS FOR MR. COVINGTON. I'M NOT SURE.

SO I KNOW THAT I HAD ASKED FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN FROM BEFORE, AND I KNOW MR. COVINGTON SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE PFLUEGER ARCHITECTS, BUT JUST SORT OF LOOKING AT WHAT THE CBC RECOMMENDED, IT WAS LIKE DEMO 100, DEMO 200, DEMO 300, DEMO 600, AND THIS IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

YEAH. THIS IS NOT THIS WAS I THINK JUST USED TO SHOW THE PARKING ISSUES AND IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE 100 BUILDING THIS IS NOT WHAT THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS WERE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT KIND OF REDESIGN OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BC HAS BEEN FULLY PUT OUT ON A SITE PLAN LIKE THIS YET, AND SO THE CBC WAS RECOMMENDING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ARCHITECTS WERE PROPOSING FROM THE FROM WHAT THEY REVIEWED IN THE 08, I THINK, WAS WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS.

RIGHT. THE COMPARISON OF THE 08.

YEAH, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR.

THE CBC RECOMMENDATION KEEPS THE 500 BUILDING WHICH IS GONE ON THIS ONE.

OTHER THAN THAT THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.

SO WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT FLUOR.

ACTUALLY, THE ARCHITECT DID SOMETHING BACK IN 2007.

ACTUALLY, THIS IS MORE RECENT AND REALLY LIKE WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT LIKE PHASE ONE, TWO AND THREE, ACTUALLY, THEY FOLLOW THIS PBK THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW FLUOR.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO ACTUALLY THESE ARE THE ARCHITECTS WHO HELPED BACK THEN WITH ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD KEEP THE 500 OR DEMOLISH IT.

WHAT'S THE BENEFIT. YEAH.

YOU WANT TO SAY IT OR YOU WANT ME? OKAY.

YEAH. SO WE JUST RESPONDED THAT I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS JUST GOT THOSE QUESTIONS, SO I DOUBLE CHECKED, TOO, WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN I WAS RESPONDING TO THAT QUESTION, MY RECOLLECTIONS WERE CORRECT, BUT THE 500 BUILDING IS WHERE GYMNASTICS IS HOUSED AT ROUND ROCK AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.

THE FACILITY OR THE BUILDING ISN'T IN DISREPAIR.

THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT IS ALREADY BUILT INTO THE STRUCTURE OF THAT BUILDING, AND SO THAT WAS WHY THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND TEARING THAT ONE DOWN, AND THEN I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PHASE FOUR HERE IN THE PHASE FOUR THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN CONSIDERED WAS A LOT OF RENOVATIONS OF BUILDINGS WHERE THE 600 BUILDING, THE 300 BUILDING, THOSE ARE NOW BEING RECOMMENDED TEAR DOWN, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE INCREASE FROM THE TIME THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO RENOVATE AND TOUCH THOSE BUILDINGS. THE LEVEL OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND SO THIS SUBCOMMITTEE FELT THAT IT WAS A BETTER OPTION INSTEAD OF JUST RENOVATING THOSE SPACES TO TEAR THOSE DOWN AND REBUILD WITH THE CURRENT ED SPECS AND WITH THE TO BE ABLE TO RIGHTSIZE THE CAMPUS FOR PROJECTED ENROLLMENT. SO CAN I JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S 105 MILLION TO BUILD THE NEW FACILITY, PLUS THE DEMOS, AND SO I'M, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS TO GET US UP TO THE SPECS WITH JUST REDOING THOSE FACILITIES.

IT'S LESS IT'S MORE THAN 105 MILLION PLUS ALL THE DEMOS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I THINK THERE WAS I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, BUT THERE WAS KIND OF A DEMO VERSUS RENOVATE VERSUS REBUILD COST CALCULATOR THAT SCOTT PUT TOGETHER.

SO WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MUCH ON THIS BUILDING, IT'S GOING TO THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS A BETTER USE OF DOLLARS AND IT WOULDN'T QUITE GET TO THE SPECS BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST OLDER SPACES.

SO THEY AREN'T GOING TO QUITE ALIGN WITH WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO AS A DISTRICT.

SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REBUILD THOSE SPACES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

WELL, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE AND TRUSTEE WEIR POINTED OUT.

SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT IS ON PAGE 19 OF THE SPREADSHEET, RIGHT, NEAR THE BOTTOM.

NEXT TIME I'LL BRING MY MAGNIFYING GLASS, [CHUCKLING] BUT IT SAYS 105 MILLION.

IS THAT TO PAY FOR WHAT FOR YEARS I REFERRED TO AS PHASE FOUR OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING THE COST IS? THE NEW PHASE FOUR.

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SO NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.

AS SCOTT POINTED OUT, THE 500 BUILDING IS STILL WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT, BUT BY AND LARGE, YES, AND WHERE DO WE GET THAT $105 MILLION. WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM.

THAT IS I BELIEVE IT'S 140,000FT², AND THEN I THINK OUR REPLACEMENT COST WAS $700 A FOOT.

THAT'S WHAT GOT US THERE.

HOW MUCH ARE WE BUILDING HIGH SCHOOLS FOR IN TEXAS TODAY? ON AVERAGE, NEW HIGH SCHOOLS.

IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO, I'M SURE YOU KEEP TABS ON WHAT'S GOING ON ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE.

THEY CAN BE NORTH OF 300 MILLION FOR NEW HIGH SCHOOL GROUND UP.

OKAY. CAN I GET THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION OF.

OKAY, SO SO LET'S SAY THIS 105 MILLION, IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD TO GO ON THE ON A BOND.

IS THIS IN PROP A? MADAM CHAIR, WOULD THIS BE? OKAY SO THIS IS THE BIG, HOW LONG DOES THIS TAKE? WHAT CAN OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES EXPECT AS FAR AS THE DISRUPTION, WHAT'S THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE AND WHAT LIFE WOULD BE LIKE, AND FOR HOW LONG DURING THIS PROJECT, DURING THIS? SO THIS WOULD THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE AT LEAST A 24 MONTH CONSTRUCTION PROCESS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WE DO HAVE MONEY IN THERE FOR SWING SPACE.

I THINK A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT SWINGING INTO THE 700 BUILDING.

POSSIBLY, BUT WE DO HAVE MONEY IN THERE FOR SWING SPACE FOR THAT.

SO I THINK OUR, OUR CONCEPT WAS, IS THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE MODULAR BUILDINGS LIKE WE DO ALL OVER THE DISTRICT FOR THE PURPOSES THERE DURING CONSTRUCTION TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE INSTRUCTION WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING.

IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WE'RE LIMITED ON SITE.

SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AREA THAT IS USED FOR CONSTRUCTION STAGING.

SO PARKING MIGHT BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT, BUT OVERALL ONE OF THESE I CAN'T TELL YOU THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A STRUGGLE TO MAKE IT BETTER AT THE END.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME COMPROMISES MADE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, BUT WE'D BE LOOKING AT TYPICALLY A 24 MONTH CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

OKAY, I'LL DEFER AND MAKE MAY COME BACK TO ME, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IF WE WENT WITH THIS PLAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE FINAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL ONCE IT'S ALREADY ON.

SORRY, I'M GETTING USED TO THAT.

THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE 590,000, AND IT ASSUMES THAT THE 700 BUILDING WOULD BE REPURPOSED AS ADMIN SPACE.

SO THAT IS ONE AREA OF FLEXIBILITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AMONG THAT COMMITTEE WAS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR ADMIN SPACE, AND IF YOU'RE RIGHTSIZING THE SCHOOL AND THE 700 BUILDING, IF YOU LOOK UP THERE IS KIND OF FAR AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE CAMPUS.

IF IT'S CONSOLIDATED IN THAT FOOTPRINT, THAT POTENTIALLY THAT 700 BUILDING COULD BE USED FOR ADMIN SPACE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT COSTS AND THE 700 BUILDING IS STILL GOING TO BE USED FOR STUDENT SPACE, THEN PERHAPS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REBUILT COULD BE ADJUSTED.

MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK HER A QUESTION BECAUSE SHE SAID ADMIN SPACE? YEAH. HOLD ON, BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS DISTRICT ADMIN OR IS SHE TALKING I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT, BUT HOLD THAT THOUGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO COME BACK TO IT TOO. SO CURRENTLY, ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL HAS 745,000FT² ON THEIR CAMPUS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 105 MILLION TO LOSE 150,000FT².

THAT IS CORRECT. THE GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO RIGHTSIZE THE BUILDING FOR PROJECTED ENROLLMENT, WHICH IS PROJECTED TO DECLINE.

RIGHT, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT OTHER THAN SPENDING 105 MILLION.

I'M JUST TRYING I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE OPTIONS, AND I KNOW ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL WAS KIND OF PIECEMEALED AND BUILDINGS WERE ADDED, AND IT'S NOT A SAFE PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE CAMPUS IN GENERAL.

SO I JUST I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO ASK OUR TAXPAYERS TO FUND.

SO IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE PROPOSING TAKING DOWN, THERE'S UPWARDS, I THINK, OF 45 PLUS MILLION IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN THOSE BUILDINGS IF THEY ARE JUST CAPPED, AND SO I THINK PART OF THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS WE FEEL LIKE IT'S BETTER TO INVEST THOSE DOLLARS IN NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN MAINTAINING THE OLD SQUARE FOOTAGE. THAT WAY, IT'S PURPOSE BUILT, IT ALIGNS BETTER WITH THE PROGRAM, AND IT'S GOING TO LAST LONGER THAN IF WE JUST CONTINUE TO PUMP MONEY INTO THE OLD BUILDINGS.

OKAY, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE ON THIS FOOTPRINT, AND PERHAPS WE CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE FROM WHAT'S UP HERE.

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WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT MODULAR BUILDINGS IN THAT FOOTPRINT RIGHT THERE? THEY COULD WE LOOKED AT THE LAWN KIND OF ON THE I'M GOING MAP NORTH.

IT'S ACTUALLY EAST IN REALITY, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE MAP, PERHAPS BY THE SOFTBALL FIELDS.

NO, YOU SEE WHERE YOU SEE PHASE THREE B UP THERE ABOVE THAT, POSSIBLY.

I MEAN, WE COULD--ABOVE THE AQUA BLUE BUILDING.

CORRECT. WHERE THOSE TREES ARE.

WE'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN THE TREES? WE COULD WE COULD PLACE MODULAR STRATEGICALLY AROUND THEM.

OKAY. MAY I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, PLEASE.

ANOTHER IDEA AND ALL DEPENDS ON HOW OUR BOARD WANT TO PROCEED, BUT IF WE MANAGE AND WE DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, IF WE MANAGE TO MOVE ADMIN BUILDING OR ADMIN FROM FROM THIS PROPERTY, THEN THAT WILL ALSO CREATE A LOT MORE SPACE, AND ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WE CAN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.

I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION AND WE DIDN'T TEAR ANYTHING ELSE DOWN, WHERE ARE THESE BUILDINGS GOING TO GO? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE ON IT AND I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO BE SITTING ON PARKING LOTS WHERE WE NEED THAT PARKING LOT FOR STUDENTS AND FOR THE ATHLETIC FACILITY AND ALL OF THAT.

SO. THERE'S VERY LIMITED SPACE TO PUT IT.

IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BAND PRACTICE PAD, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO DO.

NO, I DON'T.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT EVERY WESTWOOD PARENT RIGHT NOW IS SITTING AT HOME GOING, OH MY GOSH, DIDN'T YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO US? BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR PARKING BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY LANDLOCKED ALSO.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST PART OF WHAT HAPPENS.

OKAY, AND ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE LAST, DON'T ANSWER IT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT IF WE WIN ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS FOR DRAGON STADIUM, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE DOWNTIME WOULD BE AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT COMPETITION IN THAT FACILITY.

JUST DON'T DON'T ANSWER IT NOW, BUT JUST IN YOUR RESPONSE TO US ABOUT STADIUMS. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TRUSTEE WESTON? MADAM CHAIR, CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? THE PRESENTER MENTIONED TURNING THE 700 BUILDING INTO ADMIN.

WHAT ADMIN IS SHE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE FOCUS OF THE COMMITTEE WAS ON STUDENT SPACE, AND SO NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS BOND CYCLE, BUT THE THOUGHT EXERCISES THAT THEY HAD WAS ONCE THE SPACE IS CONSOLIDATED AND THE STUDENT SPACE IS CONSOLIDATED INTO THE NEW ROUND ROCK FOOTPRINT, THAT 700 BUILDING COULD BE USED FOR DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE IF POSSIBLE BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE FURTHER REFURBISHMENT, AND DIFFERENT USE OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE RENOVATION COSTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, BUT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ESTIMATED IN PART OF THIS BOND.

THAT WOULD BE A KIND OF A FUTURE BOND PROJECT, RIGHT? I DEFINITELY WOULD MY RECOLLECTION OF BEING IN THE 700 BUILDING IS IT'S NOT READY TO, BUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THERE? CORRECT. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? TRUSTEE HARRISON. THANK YOU.

THAT LAST THING DID BRING UP A QUESTION FOR ME, BECAUSE AT THE 700 BUILDING BECAME ADMIN.

WHERE WOULD PARKING GO? WOULDN'T WE BE BACK IN A PARKING? IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE 700 BUILDING IS STILL THERE AND THE PARKING IS AROUND IT.

SO THERE WASN'T A PROPOSAL TO TEAR DOWN THE 700 BUILDING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE WESTON. SO WHEN YOU THROW UP THE MAPS, IT BRINGS QUESTIONS.

I CAN'T SEE THAT VERY WELL.

IS THE LILLIE DELGADO BUILDING STILL IN EXISTENCE IN THIS? IT IS DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT OF THE LIGHT ORANGE BUILDING.

OKAY, UNDERNEATH THE BAND PRACTICE.

SO PHASE FOUR DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING TO DO WITH LILLIE DELGADO, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED ABOUT THAT WAS IN THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT TODAY, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU HAVEN'T READ THEM.

THEY CAME OUT AT LIKE 12:30 OR 1:00 TODAY.

IT'S ABOUT $800,000 TO TEAR DOWN LILLIE DELGADO BUILDING, IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO.

LAST QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THIS IS $10 MILLION ON MODULAR BUILDINGS.

TELL ME HOW MANY CLASSROOMS THAT GETS.

WHY WE WOULD GO WITH A MORE UPGRADED MODULAR BUILDING.

IF WE KNOW THAT THIS IS SHORT TERM WHEN YOU CAN GET PORTABLES FOR ABOUT 200,000, I BELIEVE EACH, AND YOU GET TWO CASH ROOMS OUT OF EACH OF THEM.

WHY WOULD WE GO TO MODULAR HOUSING FOR SOMETHING WE KNOW IS TEMPORARY? I MEAN, WE IT'S A $10 MILLION BUDGET ITEM FOR SWING SPACE.

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IT COULD BE RENTALS, IT COULD BE LESS.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY THAT WE'D HAVE TO REPLACE.

I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 40 OR 50 CLASSROOMS, AND SO ALL AT ONE TIME THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED.

OR WOULD IT BE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'D HAVE TO SWING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THOSE SPACES OFFLINE, THAT'S IN THE 100, 200, 306 HUNDRED BUILDINGS.

OKAY, AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS ALSO ABOUT IT BEING A MODULAR SPACE BECAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT SCIENCE, CERTAIN SCIENCE BUILDINGS THAT TYPICAL PORTABLES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, OR SCIENCE CLASSROOMS THAT TYPICAL PORTABLE BUILDINGS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AND SO THE IDEA OF THE MODULAR SWING SPACE BUDGET WOULD ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THE TYPE OF THIS SPACE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE DURING CONSTRUCTION.

CAN WE GET A ESTIMATE OF WHAT LIKE THE ANTICIPATION WOULD BE OF THAT $10 MILLION? HOW MANY CLASSROOMS? THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO JUST KIND OF PUT IN THERE OF, WELL, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE NEED.

WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY CAN WE GET A BETTER ESTIMATION OF WHAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT ON.

SURE, AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO INCREASE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT ADDING MODULARS OR SQUARE FOOTAGE.

I'M JUST AFRAID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS LIKE EXTENDED SCHEDULES YOU KNOW, TRAVELING TEACHERS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WE CAN BOOST THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE REMAINING FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO SAVE ON SWING SPACE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO IN THE CURRENT PROGRAM.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL STRESS ON OUR TEACHERS.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT RIGHT OFF.

OKAY. SO IF ANYTHING INVOLVES MAKING OUR TEACHERS HAVE TO WORK HARDER OR COMPROMISING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR BUILDINGS, THAT'S A A HARD NO FOR ME PERSONALLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT $10 MILLION IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME VOTING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE, WELL, IT'S $10 MILLION, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO KIND OF MAY OR MAY NOT USE IT.

I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT.

MOVING FORWARD.

TRUSTEE WEIR. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE I GUESS YOU ASKED THE QUESTION THAT WE RECEIVED ANSWERS FOR TODAY.

PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

SO THE $10 MILLION, UP TO $10 MILLION FOR PARKING, THAT'S KIND OF ON THIS PICTURE, WHICH IS NOT ACTUALLY IN HERE.

RIGHT. OR IS IT ONE OF THESE LINE ITEMS? BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND IT.

IT'S NOT.

SO THE PLAN WAS TO MASTER PLAN WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, BUT THE COST OF THE 10 MILLION FOR PARKING WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE.

SO THE 105 MILLION DOES NOT GET YOU THAT PICTURE CORRECT.

THE 105 MILLION GETS YOU VACANT LOTS THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND TEN MORE MILLION DOLLARS ON PROPERTY PARKING.

SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MAYBE ADDING THAT IN SO THAT WE COULD SEE THAT BECAUSE IF WE REALLY ARE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS, THAT TO NOT DO PARKING IS UNACCEPTABLE.

SO CAN WE ADD THAT ADMINISTRATION TO THIS SPREADSHEET THAT THE CBC ANOTHER LINE ITEM OF $10 MILLION FOR PARKING? I AGREE, I THINK THAT OTHERWISE THAT IS THAT IS A FAILURE ON OUR PART TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL FUND THE BUILDINGS AND THEN TELL ADMINISTRATION, WILL YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT PARKING IN? I THINK THAT'S NOT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS TRUSTEES.

I AGREE, AND ACTUALLY, CAN I JUST ASK ONE OTHER THING? I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY, BUT I KNOW GIVEN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LATER, COULD WE ALSO SEE, LIKE IF WE TOOK AWAY 700 AND ADDED PARKING THERE, HOW MUCH? THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON 700.

WHAT IF WE KEEP IT? WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE FOR IT, AND IF WE DEMOLISH IT ALSO, WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO DEMOLISH IT.

RIGHT AND GIVEN SOME OF OUR OTHER CHOICES THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP, WE MAY NOT NEED 700, AND IF PARKING IS STILL SUCH AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY RIGHT THERE BY THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE JUST GETTING SORT OF WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT COSTS WOULD BE FOR 700, TEAR IT DOWN AND ADD PARKING VERSUS WHATEVER ELSE TO TEAR DOWN THE 700 BUILDING. BASED ON THE SPREADSHEET THAT SCOTT PUT TOGETHER THAT I HAPPEN TO HAVE UP IN FRONT OF ME IT WOULD BE ABOUT $770,000 TO DEMO THAT BASED ON HIS COST PER SQUARE FOOT, AND THEN, SCOTT, IF THAT PARKING IS CONNECTED, SO WOULD IT REALLY ADD MUCH TO THE 10 MILLION, OR WOULD IT BE PART OF THE 10 MILLION? IT WOULD BE PART OF THE 10 MILLION.

IT'S JUST ADDING 770 FOR TEARDOWN IF WE DECIDED TO GO THAT WAY.

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MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BY MY WONDERFUL COLLEAGUES.

THANK YOU. AWESOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL? ALL RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO AND I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF SAY THIS, LIKE, I BELIEVE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, THINGS THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE COMING BACK IS TO TALK ABOUT MORE DETAILS ON THE MODULAR LOCKER BUILDING LOCKER ROOM, MORE DETAILS ON AN ATHLETIC STADIUM, AND MORE DETAILS ON PRICING FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL'S MASTER PLAN.

IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT, THE 10 MILLION FOR MODULAR HOUSING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE THREE WILL DEFINITELY STILL BE ON OUR NEXT MEETING AGENDA.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO TURF UPGRADES AND OPTIONS.

ITEM D THREE.

WHO WANTS TO START? WE HAD AS JUST A REMINDER.

WE HAD PROPOSALS FROM CBC TO PUT TURF COMPLETELY TURF OUT ALL OF OUR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FACILITIES COMPLETELY TURF OUT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS AND TRUSTEE WESTON.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE QUESTIONS FROM TODAY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME PRICING.

ON IF WE WENT TO LIKE RESOD OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL FACILITIES, WHAT THE UPKEEP WOULD THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE BECAUSE I ASKED THAT ABOUT IF WE DIDN'T GO WITH TURFING, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS, WHAT WOULD THAT RUN US AS WELL? AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT.

A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE ADDED.

IS THAT THE 12 PAGE DOC? YEAH. NO, NINE PAGE.

IS IT WHAT? CAME FROM PATTY TODAY? YEAH. AREN'T THERE NINE PAGES? YEAH. THERE'S NINE.

OKAY. YES. OKAY.

NINE PAGES, AND ON PAGE.

YEAH. THEY'RE POSTED AND ON PAGE SIX KIND OF TALKS ABOUT TURF MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS ON MIDDLE SCHOOL TURFING? WE ALSO.

THERE WAS ALSO SOME TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL TURF THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDED INTO THIS, SPECIFICALLY THE TURF AT CEDAR RIDGE.

THAT'S ON PAGE FIVE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED.

THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE TURF CAME OUT OF THE 2018 BOND OUT OF MY COMMITTEE, AND WE TURFED, I THOUGHT MORE THAN JUST CEDAR RIDGE, BECAUSE IN 2018, CEDAR RIDGE PRACTICE FIELD, I BELIEVE, WAS STILL GRASS, AND SO WE TURFED IT, THE PRACTICE FIELD AND WE RETURFED THE CEDAR RIDGE STADIUM, BUT I THOUGHT WE ALSO TURFED OTHER CAMPUSES AS WELL.

DID WE PUT OTHER TURF IN IN 2018? BOND OTHER THAN JUST CEDAR RIDGE? IF NOT MY QUESTION.

THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE $28 MILLION IN TURF, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STADIUMS, THAT THE TURF MAY EXPIRE BEFORE THE LIFE CYCLE OF THIS BOND, WHICH IS GOING TO BE 2029, BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER FACILITY THAT'S GOT NEW TURF SCHEDULED IS KELLY REEVES, AND NOW CEDAR RIDGE NEEDS TO BE ADDED IN BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR OTHER FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS? THEIR TURF IS WHEN WAS THEIR TURF PUT IN.

THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE 30.

THEY'RE ABOVE THE 30 ON THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, BUT THE 2030 THEY'RE ABOVE THAT OKAY.

SO THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS NOT LISTED WAS CEDAR RIDGE.

OKAY. SO THEIR TURF, EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT TURF IN THE 2018 BOND, IT WAS REPLACED LATE ENOUGH IN THE BOND CYCLE THAT IT WON'T EXPIRE BEFORE THE 2029 DEADLINE.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE $28 MILLION IN TURF AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER 600,000 FOR CEDAR RIDGE.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON TURF FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLS? TRUSTEE HARRISON I DO HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE TRUSTEE MARKUM FOR ASKING THIS QUESTION FOR THE COMPARISON BETWEEN A TURF FOOTBALL FIELD AND NATURAL GRASS.

NATURAL GRASS IS CHEAPER, BUT IT'S MORE TIME AND LABOR INTENSIVE, OBVIOUSLY, AND SO MY TWO QUESTIONS ARE DO WE HAVE THE HUMAN CAPITAL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NOT AT THE MOMENT.

OKAY, SO THEN THERE WOULD BE EXTRA INCURRED COSTS BY HIRING PEOPLE, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I MEAN, JUST I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE.

YEAH. MY QUESTION WAS, DO WE HAVE THE CURRENT LABOR TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE COSTS IF WE WERE WATERING REAL FIELDS? I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SIX AND TRUSTEE MARKUM TRUSTEE HARRISON.

YES. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WAS FOR A WELL MAINTAINED, WELL MAINTAINED GRASS FIELD AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE CURRENT STAFF TO DO A WELL MAINTAINED GRASS FIELD, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY WATERING ALL JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

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YES. SO YES, THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ADDITION TO OUR BUDGET TO WATER IF WE DECIDED TO PUT IN BETTER GRASS FIELDS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY WATERING THEM, BUT HAD KIDS ON THE FIELD WHEN THE WATER'S COME ON, BUT TO MAINTAIN A WELL-MAINTAINED IS MORE THAN JUST WATERING.

IT'S HUMAN CAPITAL, AND I'M ALSO, I MEAN NOT TO ALARM ANYONE AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS, BUT LIKE OUR WATER TABLE, OUR LOCAL WATER SUPPLY, LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE REALLY CONSCIOUS OF OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT IN AT LEAST WILLIAMSON COUNTY, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LOOKING SO HOT.

SO DAVID HAD A POINT THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT WATERING TO KEEP A WELL MAINTAINED.

THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU WALK AROUND THE DISTRICT, YOU'LL SEE OUR FIELDS ARE NOT GREEN.

THEY'RE BROWN BECAUSE WE DON'T PUT ENOUGH WATER ON THEM.

OKAY. WELL AND WITH LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE AND WATER RESTRICTIONS, I'M WONDERING HOW RESPONSIBLE THAT WOULD BE OF US.

ANYWAY, I UNDERSTAND THIS COMPARISON.

I JUST ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICTS THERE FOR ME.

I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING THOUGH, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, BESIDES THE MAINTENANCE, IT'S ALSO THE AVAILABILITY, RIGHT, FOR OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE TURF, IF WE DECIDE TO GO TURF, THEY WILL THEY WILL INCREASE PLAY TIME FOR OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE WHEN IT RAINS RIGHT NOW, SOMETIMES THEY CANNOT GO ON THE FIELD FOR A DAY OR 2 OR 3.

SO IT'S REALLY WILL ALLOW STUDENTS TO ACTUALLY BE ON THE FIELDS MORE OFTEN.

THAT BRINGS THAT BRINGS UP ONE MORE QUESTION FOR ME AND MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE FOR DENNIS OR FOR COACH CHEATHAM.

WHEN WE EXPERIENCE ANY EXTREME WEATHER, BUT PARTICULARLY EXTREME HEAT, ARE THERE IMPLICATIONS FOR THAT FOR THE TURF OVER TIME? LIKE IS TURF IN TEXAS DIFFERENT FROM PLACES WHERE IT'S MORE TEMPERATE.

I WOULDN'T SAY IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME FOR THE GRASS AS IT IS FOR THE FOR THE TURF.

I'M NOT REAL SURE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF IT.

YES, BECAUSE IT'S HOTTER HERE.

LIKE AS OUR TEMPERATURES GET MORE EXTREME.

IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE THE TEN YEAR LIFE CYCLE OF THE TURF? NO, AND I'M NOT A TURF EXPERT, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO IT JUST IN GENERAL.

NO, IT WOULD NOT DISRUPT THAT AT ALL.

THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON OUR QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED IN TRUSTEE MARKHAM'S QUESTION.

SHE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS THE WATER COST OF TURF MAINTENANCE COMPARED TO GRASS, AND WE HAVE THIS PRETTY LITTLE EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I ASKED WAS ABOUT IF WE DIDN'T TURF MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? AND WE GOT A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN WHAT'S IN THE SPREADSHEET ABOVE IT.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT SAYS CONSTRUCTION COST IS 400,000 TO 820,000, WHICH THAT IS A VERY LARGE BAND, BUT THEN WHEN I ASKED ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE CROSS TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE SURFACES SAFER TO, YOU KNOW, TILL THE GROUND, ADD DIRT, REPLACE SOD, ANY EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND IT SAYS IT'S 300,000.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THOSE NUMBERS AND WHY THEY'RE DIFFERENT, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION IN AHEAD OF TIME, BUT LIKE WE SAID THOSE JUST CAME OUT TODAY.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IS WE ALREADY HAVE GRASS FIELDS IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S JUST A RESOD COST, NOT A BUILD.

A BRAND NEW FIELD COST.

THE 400, 820,000 IS TO PUT A BRAND NEW FIELD THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING THAT ANYWHERE.

NO. SO THAT'S WHERE IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE RESURFACING RESOD COST, OKAY.

SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT.

THE FIRST COLUMN.

CORRECT OKAY. THAT WAS JUST A COMPARISON OKAY.

SO REALLY CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO UPGRADE OUR GRASS FIELDS FOR WHAT WE HAVE IS 300,000 PER FIELD TIMES 11.

NO TIMES TEN BECAUSE CD FULKES ALREADY HAS.

THAT WOULD BE YOU'RE JUST TALKING COMPETITION FIELDS NOT PRACTICE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE.

NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL.

RIGHT EACH MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS A COMPETITION FIELD AND THEY ALSO HAVE A PRACTICE FIELD TO THE SIDE THAT EVERYONE USES.

SO IF WE WERE GOING TO THEY DON'T PRACTICE ON THEIR COMPETITION FIELD BECAUSE THEY NEED TO USE IT FOR COMPETITION.

BECAUSE PRACTICING ON NATURAL GAS GRASS TEARS UP THE GRASS.

SO THEY USE THEIR PRACTICE FIELDS TO PRACTICE.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AT THE FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE COMPETITION FACILITIES? BECAUSE LIKE RIDGEVIEW DOES NOT HAVE TWO SEPARATE FACILITIES, THEY PRACTICE ON THE ONE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK, BUT THEY DON'T DO COMPETITIONS THERE.

THEY DO. OKAY.

SO LIKE IF WE DID GRASS AT SAY, CANYON VISTA, WOULD THEY NEED DOUBLE THE ALLOWANCE BECAUSE THEY I DON'T I'VE SEEN THEIR

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I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

MOST OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS EITHER PRACTICE ON THE COMPETITION FIELD AND IF THEY HAVE A SPACE AVAILABLE THAT THEY WILL PRACTICE ON, THEY WILL USE THAT, BUT EVERYBODY'S NOT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE DISTRICT OKAY.

SO IT'S $300,000, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MAINTENANCE.

THAT WOULD BE JUST TO MAKE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS SAFE TO PLAY ON.

SO FOR A WELL MAINTAINED FIELD, IT HAS TO BE RESODDED JUST AS OFTEN AS IT HAS TO BE RETURFED OKAY, ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS, THEN WHAT IS THE UTILIZATION TIME PER YEAR? WHY IS IT 2800 HOURS FOR TURF AND ONLY 800 FOR NATURAL GAS GRASS? NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

OKAY, SO FOR TURF, YOU CAN GET ON IT AND PLAY ON IT WHENEVER YOU WANT TO.

SO IF YOU DO, IF YOU DID MATH I WAS DOING THIS WITH WITH COACH EARLIER.

IF YOU DO MATH WE WORK EIGHT HOURS A DAY, 40 HOURS A WEEK.

THAT'S 2400 HOURS A YEAR AROUND THERE, 2080 THAT WOULD BE USING THESE FIELDS.

YOU CAN USE TURF EIGHT HOURS A DAY, ALL DAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT HERBICIDE.

YOU DON'T TEAR UP THE PLACES WHERE OUR COACHES AT MIDDLE SCHOOL ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT OKAY, TODAY, OFFENSIVE LINE, YOU'RE GOING TO PRACTICE ON THIS PART OF THE FIELD.

NOW TOMORROW YOU'RE GOING TO PRACTICE ON THIS PART OF THE FIELD BECAUSE WE TORE UP THIS PART OF THE FIELD.

THAT MAKES SENSE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE RECOVERY TIME ON A TURF FIELD THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR A GRASS FIELD WHENEVER WE APPLY HERBICIDES OR WHENEVER WE HAVE TO PUT SEED DOWN, YOU HAVE TO STAY OFF OF THOSE FIELDS UNTIL THAT SEED CAN GERMINATE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT WITH TURF, AND THIS WAS A THERE WERE OTHER ITEMS. I PROBABLY HAVE RESEARCHED 900 WEBSITES, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION AND EVERY WEBSITE I GO TO, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S A TURF WEBSITE, A GRASS WEBSITE, A SAFE.

MOST OF MY INFORMATION CAME FROM A SAFE PLAY WEBSITE, BUT IT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILIZATION.

IF YOU'RE RENTING OUT YOUR FIELDS AT $150 AN HOUR, THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY.

IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT AN ROI FOR A TURF FIELD, THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY THE TURF FIELD COULD BRING IN, AND THAT'S THAT WASN'T MY CONCERN, BUT THE INFORMATION WAS THERE, SO I INCLUDED IT. OKAY, SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHY NOW? IN 2018, WE DID NOT LOOK AT MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS AT ALL, AND IT CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE.

SO I KIND OF HAD TO BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A TURF EXPERT BACK IN 2018.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS AT ALL.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, AND THEY WEREN'T SAFE BACK THEN.

THEY WEREN'T SAFE WHEN MY KID WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO WHY NOW AND WHY ARE WE ADDRESSING IT NOW? I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED TO, BUT WHY NOW? AND WHY HAVE WE NOT DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY? OR WHAT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE OF MAINTAINING THOSE THOSE FIELDS ALONG THE WAY TO GET TO HERE? BECAUSE IT'S A PRIORITY FOR SAFETY FOR OUR KIDS? I PERSONALLY WAS ONE OF THOSE COACHES THAT WAS NOT ONLY COACHING AND TEACHING AND CLEANING AND FERTILIZING AND DOING ALL THAT, BUT IT'S JUST SO HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THAT AND BEING ABLE TO DO IT, AND IF YOU CONSIDER THE VOLUME OF USE AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST ATHLETICS, IT'S PE.

IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

THE KIDS THAT GET OUT THERE ON THE WEEKENDS, IT GETS SO MUCH USE.

THERE'S NO IT'S AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S SO HARD TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A WELL-MAINTAINED SURFACE FOR OUR KIDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

COULD ALL OF THESE BE DONE OVER SUMMER TO NOT, I MEAN, NOT SAYING THE SAME SUMMER, BUT DONE OVER A SUMMER TIME PERIOD TO NOT DISRUPT USE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR? ABSOLUTELY, WE WORK EVEN WHEN WE'RE RESURFACING A CURRENT TURF FIELD.

WE WORK WITH ATHLETICS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SCHEDULING AFTER SEASON BETWEEN SEASONS TO GET THINGS DONE.

SO ABSOLUTELY, IT COULD BE DONE.

WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM PRIOR TO THIS BOND TO MAINTAIN? I KNOW THEY'RE NOT WELL MAINTAINED BUT MAINTAIN OUR FIELDS.

M&O. IT JUST WOULD WE BE ABLE TO CUT ANYTHING OUT OF OUR M&O? PROBABLY NOT.

IT MAY IF WE DON'T WATER THE TURF, MAYBE YOU CAN CUT THE WATER BILL, BUT AS FAR AS CUTTING MONEY TO MAINTAIN FIELDS, THERE ARE STILL OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING WITH THE MONEY.

WELL, WE'RE HAVING WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO PAY AN OUTSIDE ENTITY TO HELP MAINTAIN THE GRASS JUST FROM THE TOP DRESSING FROM THE FERTILIZATION, THE WEED, THE WEEDS AND AND WEED CONTROL.

A LOT OF THAT IS SPENT OUT OF I THINK SOME OF IT'S OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND SOME OF IT'S OUT OF DAVID'S BUDGET.

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SO MY FIRST QUESTIONS ARE IF WE COULD GET CLARITY BECAUSE I THINK, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK OUR BOND CHAIR TOLD US THE LAST TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPS THAT IF YOU TOUCH A STADIUM, IT HAS TO BE ITS OWN PROP, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THE TURF CONVERSATION.

SO IN THIS QUESTION IT TALKS ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STADIUMS. NONE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE A SIZE BIG ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN A SEPARATE PROP.

IT WOULD GO ON JUST PROP A.

SO ALL OF THE MILLIONS PROPOSED FOR TURF THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON ITEM D THREE WOULD BE IN PROP A.

YES OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCEPT FOR KELLY REEVES BECAUSE KELLY REEVES IS PROPOSED, AND ACTUALLY I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT CEDAR RIDGE BECAUSE IF CEDAR RIDGE IS LOOKING HOW MANY SEATS DOES CEDAR RIDGE STADIUM HAVE.

I'M LOOKING, AND IS THAT OKAY.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT KELLY REEVES AND CEDAR RIDGE, LET'S SAY THAT THOSE HAD ARE THOSE STANDALONE OR THAT IS THAT GROUPED IN WITH WOULD WE HAVE A SINGLE ATHLETICS PROP? IT WOULD BE ONE ATHLETICS, ONE SINGLE PROP, BUT THE RULE IS IF THE STADIUM HAS 1000 SEATS, IF YOU DO ANYTHING TO IT, CHANGE A LIGHT BULB.

IT'S GOT TO GO IN A SEPARATE PROP 6000, BUT THE SEPARATE POP IS THE SINGLE ATHLETICS PROP.

YES, IT COULD INCLUDE ATHLETICS AND FINE ARTS IN ONE PROP.

OKAY, SO YOU COULD HAVE MULTIPLE FACILITIES IN THAT ATHLETICS PROP? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WOULD ALSO. SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THERE'S A FEW LINE ITEMS FOR ROOFING AT KELLY REEVES.

ANYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE THE FIELD, BUT ANYTHING THAT TOUCHES A FACILITY THAT HAS MORE THAN 1000 SEATS, AND I IMAGINE CEDAR RIDGE IS GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN 1000 SEATS.

SO THE CEDAR RIDGE TURF AND ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT DRAGON STADIUM AND ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT KELLY REEVES WOULD ALL, AND IF WE DID ANYTHING TO THE OTHER LARGER STADIUMS, BUT ALL OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE WELL UNDER 1000 SEATS, SO AND ALL OF THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS ARE WELL UNDER 1000 SEATS.

SO THOSE WOULD ALL GO UNDER PROP A.

IT WAS MOSTLY LOOK AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL STADIUMS, DRAGON STADIUM AND KELLY REEVES AND THEN FINE ARTS AND ALL OF THAT WOULD GET LUMPED INTO ONE BIG I MEAN, IT COULD BE NOTHING. WE COULD DECIDE NOT TO DO TURF AND NOT TO DO A FACILITY, AND WE JUST NEED TO DO ROOFING IT.

KELLY REAVES AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, 150,000.

SO VOTERS WOULD NOT BE VOTING UP OR DOWN ON UPDATES TO KELLY REEVES SEPARATELY UP OR DOWN ON DRAGON STADIUM.

NO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M KIND OF REMINDED WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, THERE ARE NO THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS IN LIFE.

THERE ARE ONLY TRADE OFFS, AND THERE ARE DOWNSIDES TO TURF.

I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING, MY DAUGHTER NEVER HAD ANY INJURIES ON THE GRASS TURFS IN ROUND ROCK ISD, BUT SHE GOES OVER TO LEANDER ISD AND BLOWS OUT HER MCL ON A TURF FIELD. SO I DON'T WANT OBSERVERS TO THINK THAT IF WE PUT TURF FIELDS IN, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY INJURIES OR WE'RE GOING TO NOT HAVE ANY SAFETY CONCERNS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD, AND I ALSO I'M KIND OF REMINDED THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TURF FIELD WITH BREATHING IN CHEMICALS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT OUR BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER AND OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW WITH REGARD TO THE DOWNSIDES OF TURF? AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL TURF ITSELF OR THE IN-PLAY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THAT? YEAH FOR CHILDREN TO BE RUNNING AROUND ON FALLING DOWN, ON TRIPPING, ON WALKING ON TURF, WHETHER IT'S BREATHING, WHATEVER THE TURF IS MADE OF OR WHATEVER OTHER DOWNSIDES ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A TURF EXPERT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE INS AND OUTS OF BOTH.

I HAVE FOUND AND HEARD NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE SIDE EFFECTS OF TURF IN ANY WAY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT CAME OUT MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY FOR TURF HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY AND IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND THEY'VE GOT SAFE PRODUCTS BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES OR, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THOSE THINGS GO, AND YOU'VE GOT THAT FLIP SIDE WHERE DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT WEED CONTROL AND FERTILIZER AND KEEPING THE KIDS OFF.

I MEAN, SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MUCH TO YOUR YOUR POINT, THERE'S A BALANCE TO BOTH GOODS AND BADS.

WELL, AND I THINK IN RECENT YEARS THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE NFL FIELDS THAT ARE TURF THAN GRASS.

SO WE DO WE CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO IT.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME AIR TIME, TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ANY OF THE DOWNSIDES OF TURF IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.

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SO WE ARE KIND OF A DECISION POINT.

TRUSTEES. DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FULL 28.6 MILLION ON TURF FOR ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL, SOFTBALL? CEDAR RIDGE IS THAT BOTH FIELDS AT CEDAR RIDGE FOR THAT 600,000, OR IS THAT JUST THE COMPETITION BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH DONE AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? 600 IS PROBABLY ONE, IF I HAVE TO GUESS.

RIGHT. SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL AT ALL FIVE HIGH SCHOOLS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? NO. ON OUR QUESTIONS, IT SAID THAT ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDED WAS THE TURF REPLACEMENT AT CEDAR RIDGE FOR 600,000.

THAT WAS ON THE MAINTENANCE, IT WAS NOT ON THE LIST, BUT IS THAT ONLY FOR THE STADIUM, OR IS THAT ALSO FOR THEIR PRACTICE FACILITY, THE PRACTICE FIELD? I DO NOT KNOW.

IT'S ONLY ONE THOUGH, BECAUSE THEY WERE PUT IN ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I MEAN IT COSTS 600 IN THE NORTH OF $600,000 TO REPLACE A TURF, AND SO I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT'S I NEED I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. WHETHER BECAUSE AND IF IT'S ONLY ONE FIELD, WHICH FIELD IS IT, AND THEN WHAT'S THE AGE ON THE OTHER FIELD.

BECAUSE I ONLY KNOW CEDAR RIDGE BECAUSE I HAD TWO STUDENT ATHLETES WHEN THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING, AND MY DAUGHTER WAS SUPER EXCITED HER SENIOR YEAR, SHE HAD NEW TURF IN THE STADIUM. SO WHAT IS THE SCOPE ON THAT ONE? SO OKAY, TRUSTEES, BACK TO MY QUESTION.

WE HAVE 28.6 MILLION IN TURF RIGHT NOW.

DO WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE AUGUST 8TH AGENDA? ARE WE IN FAVOR OF PARTS OR ALL, OR IS THAT A SINGLE LINE ITEM ON THIS SPREADSHEET? NO. OKAY, SO IT'S BY CAMPUS.

NO, IT'S NOT.

THERE'S TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS. THERE'S ONE FOR HIGH SCHOOL FIELDS AND ONE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ONE IS 18 MILLION AND IS 10 MILLION, I BELIEVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOSE PAGE NUMBERS HANDY? IT'S DISTRICTWIDE NUMBER...

HOLD ON. IF YOU CAN GET IT FASTER.

NUMBER 23 AND 24 ON PAGE NINE.

DING DING DING DING DING.

23 AND YEAH, 23 AND 24.

THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL IS 15 MILLION.

ALL MIDDLE SCHOOL COMPETITION FIELDS IS 13 MILLION, AND THEN CEDAR RIDGE WOULD BE 600,000.

SO THAT'S 28.6 MILLION ON TURF.

DO WE WANT TO OKAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.

SAY YES, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL OF IT AND WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, AND WE'RE NOT WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND NOT BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY OF IT.

SO WE HAVE A FEW OPTIONS HERE, OR BRING IT ALL BACK ON THE EIGHTH AND TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT TURF.

IT'S JUST NOW A MATTER OF DO WE WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT? SO I PERSONALLY WOULD SAY I WOULD SPEND THE MONEY ON IT JUST HAVING HAD A MIDDLE SCHOOLER THAT HAD TO GO ON THE DIRT AND OR MUD HALF THE TIME, AND I THINK THEY'RE NOT SAFE. I WOULD ALSO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SAVE US MONEY IN THE VERY, VERY LONG RUN.

OKAY. TRUSTEE WESTON DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON? SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM WE'RE SOLVING HERE, AND I JUST I DON'T GET A LOT OF OUTREACH OR I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I GET ANY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRUSTEE WESTON.

WE REALLY NEED TURF. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S EVER SAID THAT TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF THIS IS, THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES OR THE SAFETY ISSUES.

THAT'S STILL UNCLEAR TO ME AND AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO BE FOCUSED ON NEEDS VERSUS WANTS.

SO FOR ME I'M UNDECIDED.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I WOULD SUPPORT TURFING ALL OF OUR FIELDS.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS DOES THIS PRESENT LIKE AN M&O ISSUE OR THE FACT THAT ALL OF THEM WOULD COME UP EVERY TIME AT THE SAME TIME? IS THAT BAD TO HAVE IT COME UP EVERY TEN YEARS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE CYCLED THROUGH.

WE COULDN'T DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME? OKAY. NEVER MIND. DISREGARD ME THEN I'M IN FAVOR.

TRUSTEE MARKUM. YES, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD LONG TERM DECISION.

I WOULD ASSUME, TOO, THAT IT HELPS WITH THE COMPETITIVE LEVEL OF YOUR ATHLETES TO, ESPECIALLY AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL AND BRINGING THEM UP.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE FIELDS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT GIVING THESE UPGRADES

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I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME FACILITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CLOSED OFF, BUT THAT WE'RE NOT CLOSING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES OFF TO THE COMMUNITY.

JUST TO NOT PRESENT ANOTHER EQUITY ISSUE.

SO MY FEEDBACK ON IT, I'M ALL FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR SURE.

IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL, I MEAN, I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF KIDS GETTING OUT OF THE CLASSROOM AND GETTING THEIR WIGGLES OUT AND GETTING BACK INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY CANNOT SIT INSIDE ALL DAY AND DO CORE CLASSES AND NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUTSIDE, AND SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF DEFINITELY THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

I'M NOT AS IN FAVOR OF THE HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

FROM JUST A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, I WILL HONOR THE REQUEST FROM COACHES.

IT SEEMS A BIT.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FALL IN THE CYCLE OF WHEN THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL, WHEN THEY GET TO COLLEGE, IF THEY PLAY THAT ROUTE, IT'S NOT TURF IN COLLEGE, AND I GET THAT BUT VAST MAJORITY A&M WENT TO THE COLLEGE WORLD FINAL.

I WATCHED A LOT OF BASEBALL THIS YEAR.

I'M SORRY. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. YES, COACH.

IF I COULD, I COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND IN TALKING TO OTHER DISTRICTS, LEANDER IS HAS OR THEY ARE GETTING TURF FOR THE BASEBALL SOFTBALL.

AUSTIN HUTTO WHO'S IN OUR DISTRICT HAS TURF GEORGETOWN, MANOR, DELL VALLE, BUDA, WE HAD TO PLAY SOME GAMES DOWN THERE OPPOSITE THIS YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS, AND A LOT OF US ALL, MOST ALL THE SAN ANTONIO SCHOOLS, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE PLAY AGAINST IN THE COMPETITIVE EQUITY PIECE OF PRACTICE.

BEING ABLE TO PLAY GAMES WHEN WE CAN PLAY THEM IS A HUGE DEAL FOR MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING PROGRESSIVE AND STAYING UP WITH WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE CAN GIVE OUR KIDS, AND AND I UNDERSTAND AND I WILL VOTE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS.

JUST PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FLOW AS NATURALLY AS TO WHAT, IF ANY OF OUR KIDS DID MOVE ON, BUT I DO SEE THE BENEFITS OF, YOU KNOW, WEATHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, RESCHEDULE GAMES, AND IT DOES BECOME A CRUNCH AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND SCHEDULING, AND I GET ALL THAT. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

I JUST NEED ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE $600,000 ADDITION AT CEDAR RIDGE, AND WHETHER THAT'S ONE FIELD OR BOTH, AND WHICH FIELD IF IT'S ONLY ONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD NEED. PRESIDENT LANDRUM, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TO YOUR WEATHER COMMENT, THE COLLEGES HAVE LOTS OF GROUND CREWS.

THEY CAN GO OUT AND THEY CAN COVER THOSE FIELDS.

THEY CAN DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE THE SAME KIND OF BUDGET AND ALL THAT.

I GET IT. SO OKAY, SO IF I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, I'M NOT GOING TO BRING IT BACK.

IF TRUSTEES IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN IN OUR NEXT MEETING, I'M HAPPY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I WILL SEND A FOLLOW UP EMAIL TOMORROW ABOUT NEXT STEPS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE EIGHTH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I WILL SAY THAT OUR TURF OPTIONS ARE CONCLUDED WITH THAT DISCUSSION AND IT IS ON OUR AS LONG AS WE GET THE CLARIFICATION ON CEDAR RIDGE IS THAT ARE WE GOOD ON THAT? OKAY, GREAT.

DO WE WANT TO DO ONE MORE BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK, OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? WHERE ARE WE? WE'VE DONE FOUR.

WE'VE DONE FOUR, BUT DO WE WANT TO GO ON TO THE DEER PARK OR DO WE WANT TO? YOU'RE RIGHT.

WHAT? LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO ITEM D FOUR DEER PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE AND CLASSROOM ADDITIONS.

SO AS A REMINDER, CAN I JUST HAVE A POINT OF, I DON'T KNOW, REQUEST BECAUSE DEER PARK IS ALSO D12.

CAN WE JUST DO THEM TOGETHER? YES, YES OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PULL THOSE AND I'M GOING TO READ BOTH OF THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO DO D FOUR DEER PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL CLASSROOM ADDITION AND D12, DEER PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL BRIDGE, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WAS TRAVELING WHEN THIS AGENDA WAS DEVELOPED, AND SO IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND WE'RE JUST GOING WITH THE GOING WITH IT TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHO WANTS TO START? WE HAVE KIND OF SOME THREE MAIN THINGS IS THE DEER PARK DANCE CLASSROOM, WHICH I BELIEVE LINDSEY, IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT WAS 6 MILLION, 5.8 MILLION.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I'M TRYING.

THE CLASSROOM ADDITION IS 14.5 MILLION.

THE DANCE ROOM IS 5.8 MILLION.

OKAY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR TWO PRICE TAGS ON ITEM D FOUR AS 14.58 MILLION AND 5.8 MILLION FOR THE DANCE ROOM ADDITION. THE DANCE ROOM ADDITION WOULD GIVE ABOUT 6457FT².

WOULD BE THE ONLY MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAS A DANCE SUITE IS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT JUST AS A REMINDER, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS IS

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SO DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY NOT FOR THIS MEETING, BUT LOOKING AT THOSE ED SPECS AGAIN, OF BEING HAVING A DANCE ROOM THAT NOT ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE.

SO IT'S NOT AN ED SPEC, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DO ALL AT ONE TIME.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DANCE ROOM ADDITIONS, THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS, AND THE DEER PARK BRIDGE, AND WE'LL START WITH TRUSTEE WEIR.

I THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF PART OF WHAT'S IN THE PORTABLES OUT AT DEER PARK ARE DEAF STUDENTS, AND THEY REALLY NEED TO BE BROUGHT INSIDE AND BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO, JUST FOR A SAFETY STANDPOINT, I WOULD AGREE I HADN'T REALLY CONSIDERED THE SPECS UNTIL TRUSTEE MARKUM HAD ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE SPECS.

IT DOES SEEM LIKE A REALLY HIGH PRICE TAG AND A REALLY HUGE SPACE FOR THEM.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME DISCOUNT MAYBE IF WE DO IT WITH THIS WING, BUT MAYBE BRINGING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

MAYBE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL ED SPECS DON'T NEED TO BE THE SAME SIZE AS OUR HIGH SCHOOL.

JUST SORT OF LOOKING AT WHAT STONY POINT HAD COMPARED TO AND I KNOW THAT WAS A MASTER LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN AND, AND EVEN MAYBE EVEN BEFORE THAT.

SO I WANT TO HONOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE FOR THE SPECS, BUT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, AND IT IS A LOT MORE THAN OUR OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS WILL HAVE.

SO MAYBE THERE'S A COMPROMISE SOMEPLACE IN THE MIDDLE TO BRING THAT COST DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN NOW I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING REALLY CONTROVERSIAL FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I CAN'T VOTE FOR THE BRIDGE.

15 MILLION IS JUST TOO MUCH.

IT'S MORE FOR THE BRIDGE THAN IT IS FOR 12 CLASSROOMS, AND I'LL JUST BE CAREFUL WHEN I WALK MY DOG.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

THANK YOU.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THE CLASSROOM ADDITION FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS.

I MEAN, ANY TIME THAT WE CAN CREATE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND GET RID OF A NUMBER OF PORTABLES ESPECIALLY FOR A COMMUNITY OF STUDENTS WHO TEND TO BE ISOLATED IN THE FIRST PLACE, IF WE CAN BRING THEM INTO THE BUILDING.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR COMMUNITY AND AS WELL AS FOR SAFETY.

I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DANCE ADDITION, AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION AHEAD OF TIME.

I MEAN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A STUDENT AT CHISHOLM AND DANCE IS IN A PORTABLE.

SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS GOING FORWARD? IS THIS WHERE WE WANT? IS THIS WHAT WE WANT FOR DANCE GOING FORWARD AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS? AND WE'RE STARTING AT DEER PARK AND WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION AROUND WHY WE WOULD START AT DEER PARK? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE LAST PART.

WHY DID WE START AT DEER PARK? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE SPECS ARE FOR THOSE SPACES.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR? SURE. OKAY, SO FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DANCE STUDIOS AT 1600 AND 50FT².

SO THAT'S ALMOST DOUBLE THE REGULAR CLASS EACH.

OKAY. FOR A TOTAL OF 3300 STORAGE AND OFFICE AT 240 INCLUSIVE.

LOCKER ROOM AND CHANGING ROOM AT 700, AND A TOILET AT 65, AND THEN WE HAVE A GROSSING FACTOR APPLIED TO ALL THAT, WHICH GETS US TO THAT 6000 SOMETHING NUMBER.

CAN YOU SEND THOSE DETAILS TO THE BOARD? YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE ED SPECS.

WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU GET ANOTHER LINK TO THEM.

YEAH. IF YOU CAN JUST ACTUALLY CAN YOU JUST PUT IN A SEPARATE EMAIL.

YEAH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

ED SPECS IS A VERY HUGE DOCUMENT AS WELL, AND SO JUST FOR EASE, WHILE WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS, JUST THAT FIVE LINES THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT OF WHAT IS IN THE ED SPECS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE.

DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THE SAME FOR HIGH SCHOOL? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING ANY HIGH SCHOOL.

RIGHT. WELL, AT STONY POINT WE ARE.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.

MADAM PRESIDENT, MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR LINDSEY AS FAR AS CONVERSATION AROUND OR MAYBE FOR SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT WHY WE WOULD START AT DEER PARK.

I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY THAT ONE BECAME THE P ONE.

I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR TO, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ONE WAS IDENTIFIED OVER OTHER ONES.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS CHALLENGES.

I THINK CEDAR VALLEY WAS IDENTIFIED, BUT THERE WERE CHALLENGES IN THE FEASIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT ON THAT CAMPUS.

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SO IT WASN'T THAT THEY LOOKED AT ONLY DEER PARK.

I THINK DEER PARK MIGHT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAD THE MOST FEASIBILITY AVAILABLE.

SO AND I'M LOOKING AT CD FULKES TO SEE HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE ED SPEC.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL COMPARING IT TO CD FULKES FOR SURE.

OKAY. NO OTHER THOUGHTS.

OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION AND IF THERE WAS DISCUSSION AROUND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO SEE ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS GOING, AND IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PHASED OUT OVER TIME, BUT IT IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND I'M ALMOST WONDERING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO START.

I MEAN, IS THERE AN OPTION JUST TO DO A SMALLER FACILITY, OR DO WE WANT TO SAY NO BECAUSE WE WANT TO HONOR THE SPECS THAT WE APPROVED? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I'M KIND OF JUST TALKING OUT LOUD, AND I THINK IN THAT SAME VEIN, WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE SPACES, I WANT IT TO BE AN ALL OR NOTHING THING.

I WANT TO HIT EVERY CAMPUS THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN IN THIS BOND, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT ONE CAMPUS ON HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER BOND, THAT'S FOUR YEARS FROM NOW AND YOU GET 1 OR 2 MORE, AND THEN FOUR YEARS AFTER THAT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND RENOVATE.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND THIS IS WHAT THIS BOARD SEES IS LIKE THE PATH FORWARD ON DANCE SPACES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY ONE OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS WHO CAN TOLERATE IT. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SPACE ON THE, THE CAMPUS AND WHAT THAT PRICE TAG WOULD BE, I DON'T WANT TO PICK ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

IF THIS IS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, THEN GREAT.

THEN THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD DECIDES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH EVERY POSSIBLE SCHOOL THAT WE CAN SO THAT IT'S NOT.

WHY DID ONE SCHOOL GET THIS MASSIVE, AMAZING DANCE SPACE WHEN YOU KNOW THE NOTES AT TWO OF OUR OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS SAY THAT THEY'RE STEALING, NOT STEALING, THEY'RE COMMANDEERING A THEATER ROOM AT ONE OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

WHICH ONE WAS THAT? I HAVE IT IN MY NOTES. HOLD ON.

I THINK IT WAS GRISHAM.

I MAY BE WRONG. NO.

AT HOPEWELL, THEY WERE GOING TO REPURPOSE A THEATER CLASSROOM INTO THEIR DANCE SPACE, AND AT RIDGEVIEW, THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN A CLASSROOM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGING FACILITIES.

SO THEY'RE EACH GETTING A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION TO REPURPOSE A CLASSROOM.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TOUCH EVERY SCHOOL THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

WELL, AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT, EVEN IF WE DECIDE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT GOES ON THIS BOND, I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH.

WE WANT TO DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME AND NOT PIECE IT OUT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, NEXT BOND CYCLE.

THIS CONVERSATION HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE'S ALREADY FOUNDATION THERE.

SO I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT, AND THEN I HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE BRIDGE.

I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S DRIVING THE COST, AND, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE WAS THAT THE ADA COMPLIANCE PIECE IS THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY, ANY WIGGLE ROOM IN THE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE USING, LIKE THE MATERIAL THAT THE PATH IS MADE OUT OF? DOES IT HAVE TO BE CONCRETE? CAN IT BE GRAVEL? IS THERE ONE THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE? I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

WHAT MIGHT BE A MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION? SO WE--SORRY, WE'VE GONE OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT A LITTLE CLOSER.

IT DOES GO THROUGH A DESIGNATED FLOODPLAIN, AND SO WE COULD LOOK AT PERHAPS MAKING IT A INSTEAD OF A BRIDGE CULVERT AND THEN AN ELEVATED WALKWAY OVER THE CULVERT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A STRUCTURAL BRIDGE THAT COULD REDUCE THE COST.

I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WE'RE CREATING WE'RE ENDORSING ANOTHER ROUTE TO SCHOOL, AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL, AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT TO KIND OF TRY TO CUT COSTS ON THAT BY MAKING SOMETHING GRAVEL OR LESS THAN ADA COMPLIANT.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY FEEDBACK ON THAT.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT AND FROM THE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, TOO, AND SECURITY, AND IF RICH HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, TOO.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT FENCING AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS ITEM IS, BUT PART OF THAT IS, IS TRYING TO DRIVE STUDENTS OR TRYING TO DRIVE PEOPLE THROUGH ONE ENTRANCE RATHER THAN MULTIPLE ENTRANCES ON A CAMPUS AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S SORT OF THE SAME CONCEPT WHERE YOU'RE CREATING ANOTHER PATH RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, CREATING BETTER SECURITY, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE PEOPLE IN THE SAME INTO THE SAME PATH, AND I WOULD ADD THAT IT'S NOT A HIGH VISIBILITY ENTRANCE.

YOU'RE CREATING ANOTHER ACCESS POINT ONTO THE SITE THAT IS I MEAN, THE NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CROSSING GUARD? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE OUT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, CHAPERON AND WATCH THE KIDS WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS ROUTE THAT IS.

IN LINE WITH HB THREE AND SECURING THE FACILITY.

WE WILL HAVE TO PUT A GATE RIGHT THERE, AND SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO GO OPEN THAT GATE WHENEVER YOU WANT THE KIDS TO COME THROUGH, AND THEN SOMEBODY'S GOT TO GO CLOSE IT BACK

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THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HEAR THAT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE WANTING THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT BALANCING AND BALANCING.

YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE'RE CREATING WE MIGHT BE CREATING ANOTHER SECURITY ISSUE IN EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE SECURITY ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT PERSPECTIVE IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

I JUST THINK IT BETTER BE A HIGH FENCE BECAUSE I KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'LL FIGURE A WAY AROUND IT.

THIS HAS BEEN A ROUTE TO THAT CAMPUS FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT TEN, SOME ODD YEARS NOW, MY KIDS WENT ON IT.

ALSO, MUDDY SHOES COME BACK, AND OF COURSE, THERE WAS SOME AWFUL THINGS THAT HAPPENED OUT THERE TOO.

I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT'S ALL OR NOTHING, EITHER YOU DO THE BRIDGE THAT'S RECOMMENDED AND HOPEFULLY IT COMES IN UNDER COST OR YOU GATE IT UP AND YOU CLOSE IT AS HARD AS YOU CAN, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS GOING UNDER FENCES.

WE'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO FIND WAYS TO GET AROUND IT.

TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO SEE THAT WE HAVE YEAGER LLOYD HERE WITH US, AND I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THE DANCE.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT EQUITY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME THING.

IT MEANS THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO LIKE THE OVERALL WHAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE IS GOING IN? AND THEN WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE WITH LIKE GRISHAM NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE IT.

CAN YOU JUST VOICE OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE? OF COURSE. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

YEAGER LLOYD DIRECTOR OF FINE ARTS AND MUSIC, ALSO SUPPORTING DANCE.

THE BIGGEST THING HERE THAT I SAW WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ESTIMATES HERE, WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

THEY'RE IN A PORTABLE SIMILAR TO WHAT TRUSTEE MARKUM WAS SAYING AT CHISHOLM TRAIL, AND A LOT OF OUR DANCE FACILITIES ARE PRETTY SPARSE IN BETWEEN.

MAYBE THEY'RE IN A PORTABLE. MAYBE THEY'RE IN A REFURBISHED CLASSROOM.

IN FACT, WE JUST REDID ONE AT RIDGEVIEW TO EXPAND A DOUBLE CLASSROOM TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THE 30 DANCERS THAT ARE THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS FOR ME IS MAKING SURE WE'RE SAFE STAYING WITHIN THE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET RECOMMENDED FOR EACH DANCER, AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DIDN'T BUILD SOME OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE THINGS, AND DO YOU FORESEE A PROBLEM PHASING THAT OR I MEAN, WILL IT JUST BE LIMITING CAMPUSES THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT DANCE? LIKE, IS THERE A NEED AT THIS CAMPUS AT DEER PARK? ARE THERE DANCERS THAT NEED THIS LEVEL OF SPACE? ABSOLUTELY AT DEER PARK, I'M UNSURE OF THE CURRENT NUMBERS OF THE CLASSES RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW A SIMPLE TALLY HAS PROBABLY HAVE COME OUT, AND I KNOW WE'LL HAVE A FINAL ENROLLMENT MAYBE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SO BUT I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT DEER PARK SPECIFICALLY, IS THERE WAS A FINE ARTS REQUIREMENT AT THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THE SIXTH GRADE CLASSES, SO A LOT OF THOSE STUDENTS STAY IN THE PROGRAM IN BAND, CHOIR, ORCHESTRA, DANCE, THEATER, EVERYTHING.

SO IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS IN DANCE CLASSES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SPACE FOR THEM, AND I THINK THE BIGGEST DETERRENT TO THAT WOULD BE CRAMMED UP IN A TINY PORTABLE, AND IS THERE A CASE TO BE MADE WHICH YOU KIND OF STARTED ANSWERING THIS, BUT IS THERE A CASE TO BE MADE AS TO WHY? THIS STARTS WITH DEER PARK VERSUS EVERY OTHER CAMPUS? IF WE WERE TO JUST REALLY FOCUS ON THIS ONE, ARE WE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUSES, OR WILL THEY UNDERSTAND? I KNOW DANCE WORKS CLOSELY TOGETHER.

THE RECOMMENDATION, THE RECOMMENDATION RATHER TO START AT DEER PARK WAS NOT MADE FROM US.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE SEEING IS I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO RENOVATE ALMOST EVERY ONE OF OUR DANCE FACILITIES, BUT I BELIEVE MAYBE THIS ONE MIGHT BE PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S OUT IN A PORTABLE, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE TO ATTACH IT.

MAYBE IT'S WITH THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS.

I WASN'T THERE WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE TOUR, SO THAT MIGHT BE A CBC COMMITTEE QUESTION, AND I'LL ASK FOR MORE COLOR FROM CBC, BUT COULD WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM FINE ARTS FROM STAFF DR.

AZAIEZ? LIKE, COULD WE GET MORE CONTEXT AND INFORMATION AND INPUT FROM FINE ARTS STAFF ABOUT WHAT? BECAUSE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT A FOOTBALL STADIUM, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT ATHLETICS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE ARTS MORE SUBSTANTIALLY AS WELL AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ON A TIGHT TIMELINE.

SURE. I MEAN, SO THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS ALSO IF WE IF WE THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE FEEL LIKE DID NOT MAKE IT TO P ONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT, IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. YES, AND LIKE CAN WE REALLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH COLLABORATION THERE WAS BETWEEN CBC AND FINE ARTS ON DANCE.

SO CAN WE CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SURE. TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS WIDE GAP WITH DAN.

YEAH, SURE.

WE DEFINITELY CAN WORK ON THAT, AND DEFINITELY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, WE CAN HAVE A PROBABLY MORE COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

[02:05:08]

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL PROBLEM, AND THEN, MISS LINDSEY, DID YOU HAVE ANY CONTEXT OR COLOR TO ADD TO THIS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD? I DON'T THINK SO.

YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHY DEER PARK? I MADE NOTE TO GO BACK TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY LOOKED AT MORE THAN JUST DEER PARK, AND SO I THINK A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE, AND SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO REMOVE SOMETHING IF IT WAS FEASIBLE.

THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MY THOUGHT BEHIND IT, BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE LENS THAT YOU ALL ARE OF SAYING, WELL, IF WE DO THIS FOR ONE HERE, IT'S FEASIBLE HERE, BUT IS IT GOING TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN ISSUE ACROSS THE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES.

SO I CAN TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR FROM THEM.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WESTON.

OKAY. SO ON THE BRIDGE I'LL JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I JUST, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE.

THAT'S NOT $15 MILLION.

I JUST I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS.

SO I'M NOT FOR THIS $15 MILLION OPTION, BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS LIKELY A SOLUTION OUT THERE THAT MAKES SENSE.

MR. LLOYD, I APPRECIATE YOU.

COMING TO THE MICROPHONE IS A 6000 SQUARE FOOT 15 WHAT WAS THE PRICE TAG ON THE DANCE? 5.8 MILLION.

5.8 IS $5.8 MILLION FOR A DANCE FACILITY AT DEER PARK IN YOUR TOP TEN FINE ARTS PRIORITIES? IN TERMS OF A FINE ARTS PRIORITY, I'M GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT JUST THE DANCE FACILITY RIGHT NOW.

AS THIS PARTICULAR ESTIMATE HAD NOT NECESSARILY THE SPECS THAT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE 16, I BELIEVE ABOUT 1600 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT I KNOW FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE FACILITY.

IN FACT, OUR NEWEST BUILD AT PEARSON RANCH IS 1575, I BELIEVE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.

SO THIS PRICE TAG IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT I IDENTIFY WITH WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DANCE SPACES.

SO DID YOU JUST SAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DANCE FACILITY AT PEARSON RANCH? AT PEARSON RANCH, YES, WE DO. BECAUSE I BELIEVE EARLIER WE SAID THAT NONE OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

SO IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? NO NO NO NO I WAS SAYING WE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT DANCE SPACES AT EACH OF OUR CAMPUSES DEPENDING ON THE AGE OF THEM.

SO FOR INSTANCE, CHISHOLM TRAIL IS IN THE PORTABLE DEER PARK IS IN A PORTABLE, BUT RIDGEVIEW, FOR INSTANCE, HAS A DANCE FACILITY THAT WE'VE CREATED A DOUBLE CLASSROOM WITH.

RIGHT, AND SO FORTH, BUT PEARSON RANCH HAS A DANCE ROOM PROPER.

YES, AND IT'S THE ONLY ONE LIKE THAT? NO. OKAY.

I THINK PERHAPS WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS IF WE COULD GET A LIST OF ALL OF THE DANCE SPACES AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WELL, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT I DON'T PERSONALLY NEED THAT.

I MORE ENJOY THE DIALOG WITH MR. LLOYD, AND JUST.

I WANT TO FIND OUT, MY.

SIR, MY REAL THE ESSENCE OF MY QUESTION IS YOU OVERSEE ALL OF FINE ARTS? WITH TIM LOWKE.

YES, WHO'S BEHIND ME AS WELL.

YES, YES, OBVIOUSLY BUT YOU'RE THE TOP MAN IN THE SHOP, RIGHT, OF THAT TEAM? WE'RE CO-DIRECTORS, THE TWO OF US.

OKAY. IS YOUR IS YOUR CO-DIRECTOR HERE? HE'S BEHIND ME. HE'S IN THE BACK.

OH, OKAY. WELCOME.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN YOU GUYS THINK OF ALL THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND ALL OF THE PRIORITIES AND ALL OF THE NEEDS AND.

HELLO, SIR. ALL OF THE NEEDS AND ALL OF THE WANTS, WHERE DOES THIS RACK AND STACK? I THINK IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PRIORITIES WITHIN FINE ARTS, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE FACILITIES ARE SAFE AND USABLE IN A COMPETITIVE SENSE AND IN A PARTICIPATORY SENSE FOR EVERY KID.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRIORITY, NO PARTICULAR FACILITY RECEIVES PRIORITY OVER ANOTHER WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR FACILITIES.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS OBVIOUSLY NOT WITHIN OUR ADMINISTRATION, AS DIRECTORS OF FINE ARTS, WE HAVEN'T BUILT A FACILITY LIKE THIS WITHIN US.

SO WHAT THE PRIORITIES WERE BEFORE US MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN OURS, SINCE WE'RE CO-DIRECTORS AND OBVIOUSLY WE VALUE WHAT EACH OTHER DOES AND WHAT WE OVERSEE WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR PRIORITIES ARE PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED TO EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE IT.

SO JUST TAKING, FOR INSTANCE, THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY AT DEER PARK, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ISSUES AT MANY OF OUR DANCE FACILITIES, WHICH IS WHY WE PROPOSE TO HAVE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT EVERY DANCE FACILITY THAT WE HAVE.

CLASS SIZES IS ALSO A BIG FACTOR IN THAT.

SO AT DEER PARK YOU HAVE A LARGE ENROLLMENT IN DANCE.

RIDGEVIEW, YOU HAVE A VERY LARGE I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN, AT DEER PARK, YOU HAVE A LARGER WHAT? ENROLLMENT IN DANCE.

OKAY, AND MANY OF OUR OTHER FINE ARTS FACILITIES.

SO I THINK IT REALLY IT STARTS THERE MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND EVERY STUDENT CAN PARTICIPATE AND COMPETE AT THEIR HIGHEST LEVEL THAT THEY CAN.

[02:10:10]

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE, AND I DON'T.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE SINCE YOU'RE HERE ON THIS TOPIC? SO I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. LLOYD. YOU KNOW, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE EVERYTHING.

I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO AS AS LONG TIME ROUND ROCK EMPLOYEE IS WHAT IS THE BOARD'S DESIRE? WE GOT LOTS OF SIGNALS WITHIN THE CBC COMMITTEE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GET KIDS OUT OF PORTABLES.

WE WANT TO WE WANT TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY IN THE MAIN SPACE, YOU KNOW, FOR SECURITY, FOR EFFICIENCY, FOR ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE MANY FINE ARTS, THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN PORTABLES.

SO IT AND THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE CAMPUS AS TO WHO'S WHERE.

SO IT COMES DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IS THE BOARD'S DESIRE.

DO WE ADDRESS, AND GETTING ALL OF DANCE IN WITHIN THIS BOND AND LEAVING, FOR EXAMPLE, THEATER.

WE HAVE SOME THEATER SPACES OUT.

DO WE LEAVE THEM OUT? WE HAVE WE HAVE CAPACITY ISSUES AT A LOT OF CAMPUSES WHERE WE HAVE I THINK YOU USED THE EXAMPLE OF HOPEWELL WANTING TO TAKE AN EXISTING DESIGNED THEATER SPACE AND MAKING IT INTO A DANCE SPACE.

WELL, IN THEORY, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT NOW WE'VE DISPLACED A THEATER TEACHER WHO'S ACTUALLY IN THAT THEATER SPACE, AND SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH BEING HERE TONIGHT AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D HAVE TO SAY FOR ME, I'VE NOT BEEN SOLD ON A SALES PITCH FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THAT FOR ME, I WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T DO THIS AT EVERY SCHOOL, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS AT ANY SCHOOL.

SO, BUT I REMAIN OPEN MINDED IF IF MORE INFORMATION CAN COME TO SORT OF CLOSE THIS SALES PITCH FOR ME ON THIS PROJECT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE BRIDGE? I'M A I'M A I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

AND YOU DID SAY THAT YOU WANTED YOU THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE AT A CHEAPER PRICE.

BUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE I, I HAVE ISSUES WITH IT AS WELL, BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS.

SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR ANOTHER SEPARATE PROPOSAL ON.

NO, I'M NOT NECESSARILY.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF THIS TRULY IS A P1, THEN I WOULD THINK THAT THE CBC, ALONG WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, I BELIEVE THERE.

IF THIS TRULY IS A P1, I REMAIN OPEN MINDED.

IF THEY CAN COME BACK WITH WITH A PRICE TAG, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE, BUT I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.

OKAY. OKAY.

I ALREADY MADE A COUPLE OF MY COMMENTS ON THIS.

I'M ALL FOR THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS.

I WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON DANCE FACILITIES ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

I REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED AT HOPEWELL, IT DOES.

IT SOLVES MAYBE ONE PROBLEM AND CREATES ANOTHER PROBLEM, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I WANT TO DO IT FOR AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

OR IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, CAN WE GET ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AT THOSE CAMPUSES TOO? NOT JUST THE SPACE CURRENT SPACE, WHETHER IT'S IN A PORTABLE, WHETHER IT'S INSIDE WHETHER THE CAMPUS HAS THE ABILITY TO EVEN HAVE AN ADDITION PUT ON IT OR A RENOVATION OR WHATEVER WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAD IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE HAD A LINE ITEM FOR GRISHAM TO GET A DANCE SPACE, AND IT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE ON THAT.

THAT CAMPUS.

SO SAME THING WITH CEDAR VALLEY.

SO UNDERSTANDING AND UNDERSTANDING LIKE SPECIFICALLY CEDAR SORRY, CITY FOLKS, SINCE IT'S OUR NEWEST FACILITY, WHAT DID WE BUILD AT OUR NEWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL? SO I NEED MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

I'M NOT A YES OR A NO ON IT YET, BUT I DO NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE BRIDGE I AM STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF CAMPUSES WHERE STUDENTS DON'T USE OUR STANDARD ROUTES TO GET TO SCHOOL, AND THEY CREATE THEIR OWN WALKWAYS, THEIR OWN PATHWAYS.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF THESE ALTERNATIVE PATHWAYS, AGAIN, WE'RE PICKING ONE CAMPUS THAT HAS ONE ALTERNATIVE USE PASSAGE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, AND DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES TO SEE ARE THERE.

[02:15:11]

IT IS A VERY, VERY LARGE PRICE TAG FOR A SIDEWALK, AND I KNOW IT SERVES MORE OF A PURPOSE FOR THAT BECAUSE I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT, AND I DON'T WANT OUR KIDS UNSAFE BECAUSE LIKE TRUSTEE ZÁRATE, THEY SAID THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO USE THIS WALKWAY ANYWAY.

SO HOW DO WE KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE? SO I NEED I, I PERSONALLY I THINK WILL BE BRINGING BACK THE BRIDGE AGAIN.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, PERHAPS WE CAN EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS.

I WILL I WILL TELL YOU THAT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG SCOTT.

IT'S DANGEROUS.

THEY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE USING IT I YOU CANNOT USE IT WHEN IT'S FLOODED, AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW HIGH THIS BRIDGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE, GIVEN THE WAY THE WATER, IF IT RAINS FOR A DAY, HOW HIGH THE WATER IS.

THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE BEHIND MY HOUSE ARE COMPLETELY FLOODED.

THIS IS DOWN FARTHER SO IT IS NO KIDS USE IT WHEN IT'S BEEN RAINING.

IT'S REALLY THE ONLY PROBLEM HAPPENS IS WHEN IT'S MUDDY AFTERWARDS.

THAT'S WHEN MY KIDS WOULD LOSE SHOES, AND AND THAT'S ON MY KIDS BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE WALKED AROUND.

THERE'S NUMEROUS OTHER WAYS YOU COULD WALK AROUND, BUT IT'S MORE FUN TO GO WE PUT UP THOSE LITTLE SIDEWALKS.

IT IS A LITTLE MORE. IT'S NOT MORE DANGEROUS THAN WALKING THROUGH THE WOODS.

IT'S. EVEN EVEN THERE'S A BIG, BAD WOLF, BUT.

HEY, BUT, BUT, MADAM CHAIR, IT'S NOT A SAFE SPACE.

THAT IS A SAFE WALKING SPACE FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SCHOOL.

BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T, WE WOULD OFFER TRANSPORTATION.

SO FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN WALK UP TO PALM SPRINGS AND THEN BACK PALM SPRINGS ROAD AND THEN WALK BACK DOWN TO DEER PARK.

OR LIKE FROM MY HOUSE, YOU WOULD GO UP ANDERSON MILL, AND THEY DID ADD LIKE THEY'RE NOT REALLY LIKE RAILINGS, BUT THEY THE CITY DID ADD SOMETHING TO MAKE IT A PROTECTED WALKWAY.

AND WE HAVEN'T HAD, BUT BUT MY THING IS, I CAN'T IMAGINE.

I WOULD THINK $15 MILLION IS GOING TO BE THE REASONABLE PRICE.

I CANNOT IMAGINE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THIS A SAFE WALKWAY FOR LESS THAN THAT, AND I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF YOU WENT IN AND IT CAME OUT TO BE MORE THAN $15 MILLION. IT IS A VERY WIDE FLOODPLAIN IT IS YOU CAN'T BUILD BACK THERE.

IT IS MOSTLY TREES AND IT'S THIS LITTLE PATH THE KIDS HAVE HAVE GONE THROUGH.

IT I KNOW EVERYONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IT.

I KNOW, I MEAN, FOR 20 YEARS, EVERYBODY'S WANTED ONE, BUT IT'S IT WILL BE $15 MILLION AT LEAST.

OKAY. WELL, WE'LL BRING THE BRIDGE BACK.

WE'LL BRING BACK DANCE SPACES TO TALK ABOUT MORE.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN FAVOR OF THE CLASSROOM ADDITION AT DEER PARK.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS IF WE DON'T DO A FULL BLOWN DANCE ADDITION, ADDING MAYBE ANOTHER CLASSROOM OR TWO TO GIVE THEM AN INTERIOR DANCE ROOM SPACE SIMILAR THAT COULD BE USED IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL THE BOARD DECIDES WHAT THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL IS.

SO MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT A COST ADDITION OF JUST THE HOW MANY CLASSROOMS WAS IT? IS IT JUST YOU JUST WANT US TO INCLUDE LIKE ONE DANCE STUDIO AND THE CLASSROOM ADDITION AND NOT THE ENTIRE DANCE SUITE.

YES. OKAY, SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT I WANT TO ADDRESS IT, BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT IT EQUITABLY AS WELL, AND SO MAYBE JUST TWO PRICES FOR THE CLASSROOM EDITION, ONE JUST CLASSROOMS AND ONE WITH A CLASSROOM AND A DANCE ROOM IN IT, AND THEN ALSO ALL THE MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE SPECS THAT DOES THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LIKE WHERE THE BOARD IS OR YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP Y'ALL NEED? OKAY. ARE WE GOOD ON THAT? MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES. ON THE BRIDGE YOU SAID YOU'RE BRINGING IT BACK.

WHAT INFORMATION ARE YOU WANTING FROM US TO BRING IT BACK? THE COST IS GOING TO BE AT MINIMUM $15 MILLION.

SO WHAT INFORMATION ARE WE BRINGING BACK TO YOU? I WAS GOING TO SAY POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE IT.

I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE MUCH MORE FAMILIAR, LIKE AMY AND CHUY.

TRUSTEE WEIR AND TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'VE REACHED A CONCLUSION.

I PERSONALLY JUST WANT TO SEE IT MYSELF.

SO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO SEE HOW IT'S COSTED OUT OR YOU WANT TO GO SEE?

[02:20:03]

OH, OKAY. RIGHT BEFORE I CAN DEFINITIVELY SAY THIS I AM. Y'ALL KNOW WHERE IT IS.

COME THROUGH. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN'T DEFINITIVELY SAY BASED ON WHAT I CAN RECALL.

SO IT COULD STILL BE THAT EVERYBODY IS AT THE SAME PLACE.

I'M NOT PERSONALLY ASKING FOR MORE INFO THERE.

I GUESS WHAT I, AND I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WANT THIS OR NOT, BUT THE CONCERNS I HAVE ARE WHAT OTHER CAMPUSES HAVE THESE CUT THROUGH ROUTES THAT HAVE OTHER SAFETY CONCERNS THAT IS IF WE ADDRESS THIS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS AT ALL? EITHER WE ADDRESS EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF A SAFETY ISSUE OR WE HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

I MEAN, LIKE, WE HAVE TO TAKE A SIN TO A MORE OF A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH RATHER THAN JUST LOOKING AT ONE CAMPUS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

NO OFFENSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AMY, BUT IF WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE CAMPUSES THAT HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS OF THESE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES THAT THE KIDS HAVE CREATED, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SAFE, AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS BRIDGE.

I MEAN, IF $15 MILLION WOULD KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE AND IT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THE PROBLEMS, SURE, LET'S DO IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE SAFETY WALKING ROUTES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS DISTRICT.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

IF I CAN JUST ADD THERE IS AN EXISTING SIGN THERE THAT SAYS ROUND ROCK ISD PROPERTY AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY.

NO TRESPASSING, NO DUMPING.

SO IT'S IT IS NOT A ENDORSED ROUTE TO SCHOOL.

ALL THAT DOES IS CLEAR OUR LIABILITY IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT.

BUT IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN.

RIGHT, BUT IF THE SIGN GOES AWAY, WE BUILD A BRIDGE AND IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN WHAT ABOUT THE LIABILITY? YEP. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL BRING IT BACK.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

WE'LL DO FIELD TRIPS TO THE.

OKAY. TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, FOR ONE, WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ALL THAT.

THAT'S GREAT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY EQUITY, THAT'S EQUITABLE.

BUT TWO THIS CAMPUS ASKED FOR THIS, IT IS A P1 FOR THE CAMPUS.

SO WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT DIDN'T BRING UP THESE SORTS OF THINGS, THAT IT'S NOT THEIR P1.

THIS IS A P1 FOR THIS SCHOOL.

WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

I THINK JUST SAYING LIKE BLANKET, IF WE CAN'T DO IT FOR EVERYBODY, WE CAN'T DO IT FOR ANYBODY DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

FRANKLY, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL EQUITY, THEY NEED THIS THEY SAY.

SO LET'S CONSIDER IT.

I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE.

ALL OF THIS IS EXPENSIVE.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE YES, BUT IF THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS A PRIORITY AND THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T GET A LOT OF PLAY IN THIS DISTRICT, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE KIND OF A FORGOTTEN SCHOOL.

I MEAN, AM I WRONG? AND I MEAN, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT WITH ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, BUT BUT NOT JUST CONSIDER IT EQUITY BECAUSE WE SAY IT'S EQUITY, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

MADAM CHAIR AND I HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I DO WANT TO SAY YOU MAKE VALID POINTS AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU, BUT IF WE HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS, EQUITY IS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SAFETY CONCERNS, AND IF THERE ARE ROUTES THAT ARE NOT SAFE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU JUST DO SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY JUST BECAUSE YOU DO SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IF THERE ARE GENUINE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR ROUTES THAT OUR KIDS ARE TAKING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND KEEP ALL OF OUR KIDS SAFE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH YOU ON THAT, BUT THIS IS ON THIS BOND THOSE OTHER ONES AREN'T.

THERE WAS ONE PARENT ON THE COMMUNITY ON THE COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN A BIGGER PICTURE, IN MY OPINION, I'M ONE TRUSTEE.

CLARIFICATION ADMINISTRATION NEVER ASKED FOR THE BRIDGE.

THIS BRIDGE WAS ADDED BY THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS REQUESTS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS FOR A BRIDGE.

THIS DID NOT COME FROM THE CAMPUS.

IT WAS PUT ON THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ASKED FOR BY THE COMMUNITY.

SOMEBODY VOLUNTEERED ON THE CBC THAT WANTED IT.

OUR STAFF PUT IT ON THE LIST BECAUSE WE ARE BEING ASKED EVERY YEAR FOR THIS BRIDGE.

SO WE NEED TO GET THE CLARIFICATION.

ARE WE GOING TO BUILD A BRIDGE OR NOT BUILD A BRIDGE? BUT THE CAMPUS DID NOT SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

TRUSTEE HARRISON YOU STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON?

[02:25:01]

MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOND COMMITTEE.

MAYBE THE DISTRICT DIDN'T KNOW, BUT IT IS OUR DUTY TO CHECK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO SAY NO, YOU DON'T GET THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT FOR EVERYONE.

I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ROLLOUT IS OVER TIME, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHY LIKE FROM FINE ARTS.

I REALLY WANT A PHILOSOPHY OF MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE.

ARE WE TRYING TO GROW THAT? ARE WE TRYING TO HAVE MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE TEAMS EVERYWHERE? IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT YOUR VISION WITH THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL BUY INTO.

AND THEN MY SECOND THING IS, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY AND I'LL KNOW THIS WHEN I GET A LITTLE VISIT, BUT IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO PUT BARRIERS UP SO THAT PATH IS NOT PASSABLE IF IT'S THAT DANGEROUS, OTHER THAN A SIGN AND I SEE A NO, AND THAT MIGHT BE MORE EFFORT THAN IT'S WORTH.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY UP TO DAVID, BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST A DEAD END STREET.

SO YOU COULD MAYBE CONNECT TO THE TWO HOUSES, FENCES ON EITHER SIDE AND BLOCK PEOPLE, BUT THEY WOULD STILL FIND A WAY.

IT WON'T DETER THEM. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

I HEAR YOU LET ME JUST SEE IT AND THEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT DEER PARK DANCE? THE CLASSROOM ADDITION, I DID NOT BRING BACK THE WOOD SHOP RENOVATIONS AT DEER PARK BECAUSE NOBODY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

SO DEER PARK WOOD SHOP CONVERSION IS STILL LIKE A GOOD TO GO.

NOBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE OKAY WITH THE CLASSROOM.

WE WANT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DANCE, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP AFTER FIELD TRIPS TO THE BRIDGE OR TO THE CULVERT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

IT IS 7:56.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A RECESS.

LET'S COME BACK AT 8:10.

IT'S 757. WE ARE ON RECESS.

IT IS 8:11.

WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

WELL, MOST OF US BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT FOUR TRUSTEES THAT ARE HERE.

PLEASE DO NOT GET UP BECAUSE WE'LL LOSE QUORUM.

WE ARE ON TO AGENDA ITEM D5, THE MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL DANCE CLASSROOM LINE ITEM, AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING, THAT IS $1.4 MILLION.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

$1.4 MILLION, AND THAT IS PROJECT NUMBER.

IT'S ON PAGE NUMBER NUMBER.

HOLD ON. I'M NOW I'M MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL HERE WE GO, MCNEIL, NUMBER 6 ON PAGE 16.

REQUEST TO CONNECT NEW DANCE SPACE TO OLD DANCE SPACE FOR ACCESS TO LOCKER ROOMS, AND IF JUST A REMINDER, THIS FACILITY WAS OPENED START OF LAST YEAR.

START OF THE 2022 SCHOOL YEAR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY, AND THAT WAS ALL COMPLETED IN THE MCNEIL MASTER PHASE 2B I'M LOOKING TO AMY.

SHE KNOWS ALL THINGS MCNEIL.

NO 2B WAS THE SCIENCE WING.

SO WHEN WAS THE DANCE? BECAUSE IT WAS THE LAST SPACE TO OPEN, RIGHT? WHAT PHASE WAS IT? MCNEIL 2A OR 2B.

SO I CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE THE THEATER WAS ATTACHED TO THAT THEATER SCIENCE AND THAT DANCE ROOM WERE ALL DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO 2B, IT OPENED IN THE START OF THE 22-23 SCHOOL YEAR.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPACE.

I'VE TOURED IT, BUT THE LOCKER ROOMS DO NOT CONNECT DIRECTLY INTO THE CURRENT NEW DANCE SPACE.

PAGE 16 AND ITS MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT NUMBER 6 DANCE ROOM IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH PERHAPS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OPINION ON THIS PROJECT, THE NEED FOR IT, HOW IT IMPROVES THE SPACE, THAT KIND OF START.

WELL, THIS INITIALLY IMPROVES THE FLOW.

STUDENTS USUALLY HAVE TO DRESS OUT ON A ON A PARALLEL HALLWAY.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MEASUREMENT, AND WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THROUGH THE MAIN MALL, THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

THE NEW ENTRANCE FOR MCNEIL WILL COME DOWN AND INTO THE DANCE STUDIO ITSELF.

THAT'S POSING A PROBLEM TO INSTRUCTIONAL TIME FOR THE MOST PART.

IT'S ALSO FOR ME YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING DURING THE SCHOOL DAY.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME, AND THE TEACHER HAS TO ALWAYS KEEP THEM IN ONE GROUP, SO EVERYTHING KIND OF IT'S A NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT IT'S A NECESSITY TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE SIMILAR TO, YOU COULD YOU COULD EQUATE IT TO CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEY HAVE

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THIS IS REALLY WHAT IT'S LOOKING FOR.

THE HALLWAY IS ALREADY THERE, THERE'S NO NEED TO BUILD AND IT'S ACTUALLY SHOULD JUST BE A WALL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S BEHIND THAT WALL BECAUSE I'M NOT A CONSTRUCTION, SO.

OKAY THERE WAS A NOTE ON HERE THAT SAID, SEEMS FAIR.

THERE MIGHT BE ISSUES CONNECTING THROUGH FIREWALLS BETWEEN ORIGINAL AND RELATIVELY NEW CONSTRUCTION.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT NOTE, SCOTT? SURE. IT'S SORRY.

IT'S REALLY JUST AN UNKNOWN WITH CODE ISSUES THAT MAY THAT MAY OCCUR AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE IN THAT WALL BECAUSE THEY'RE EXTERIOR WALLS THAT WERE BUILT.

IT I HOPE IT COMES IN CHEAPER, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO KIND OF COVER THE UNKNOWN.

OKAY. TRUSTEES, YOU'RE GETTING A COPY OF THE MAP OF WHAT THEY'RE TRAVELING TO GET FROM ONE SPACE TO THE OTHER, AND SO IS THE RED X, WHERE THIS DOORWAY WOULD BE BUILT.

CORRECT? SO THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL OUT THERE.

THE BLUE ARROW SHOWS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY TRAVELING BECAUSE WHERE THE X IS THERE'S NO DOOR, AND IF THE DOOR IS THERE, IT'S A DIRECT ROUTE.

WHERE ARE THE WHERE ARE THE LOCKER ROOMS ON THIS MAP? DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE DOOR.

SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME DOWN THAT CORRIDOR THAT SAYS 1689 SQUARE FEET.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF THOSE LOCKER ROOMS, DOWN THAT CORRIDOR AND INTO THE HALLWAY.

YEAH. DIRECTLY.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THE BIG WALK AROUND THE BAND HALL AND THE ART ROOMS. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES, PLEASE. WHY CAN'T YOU? WHY WOULD YOU NOT PUT A DOOR TO THE RIGHT? IT CAN, IT CAN.

ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS $1.4 MILLION FOR A DOOR? YES. CORRECT.

LESS LEGIT.

IT'S THERE'S UNKNOWN FACTORS IN THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY EXPLORATION TO SEE WHAT'S IN THERE AND WHAT THE COST COULD BE.

WE HOPE IT COMES IN LESS.

OH, YOU'RE SAYING LIKE BEHIND THERE IF YOU'VE GOT SO WOULD YOU WOULD IT BE BETTER TO MOVE IT OVER THEN MOVE THE DOOR OVER SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WALKWAY? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE COST.

IT'S STILL THE SAME, BUT LOGISTICALLY.

YEAH, SURE. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST WHERE IT WAS IN THE DRAWING.

THAT'S WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO IN THIS.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THIS UP ON THE SCREEN FOR ANYBODY LOOKING AT HOME? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PDF THAT CAN BE DISPLAYED, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT JUST SO THAT WE ARE ALL KIND OF LOOKING AT THE SAME MATERIAL, BUT ANYWAY.

WAS THIS CONSIDERED WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT HAS ARISEN ONCE WE STARTED UTILIZING THE SPACE? I AM NOT SURE.

HOW WOULD WE FIND THAT OUT DR.

AZAIEZ, DO WE KNOW? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT I GUESS, WHO DEVELOPED THE WHO DID THE PROJECT AND THE ARCHITECT, I GUESS.

PERKINS AND WILL DID THE SO WE HAVE TO TALK TO THEM.

SO. YEAH, AND PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IS BEHIND THAT WALL IF THEY.

I'M I'M HAVE THE SAME INITIAL SHOCK VALUE THAT TRUSTEE WESTON DOES OF $1.4 MILLION FOR A DOOR.

BUT I WOULD THINK WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BEEN DONE ON MCNEIL, THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHAT IS BEHIND THAT WALL. LIKE, CAN WE GET A BETTER CLARIFICATION OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING OURSELVES INTO? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

OKAY. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON YOU ASKED ABOUT MOVING THE DOOR.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TO THE RIGHT, IS THAT WHAT YOU ASKED INTO, LIKE FROM DANCE STUDIO TO THE NEXT SPACE? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE DISRUPTIVE? BECAUSE YOU'D BE WALKING THROUGH A CLASSROOM TO GET TO ANOTHER CLASSROOM.

I MEAN, IT'S THE IT'S THE DESTINATION OF WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GO BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN.

IT WOULD JUST BE CONNECTING THE LOCKER ROOM TO THE DANCE ROOM.

OH, THAT'S THE LOCKER ROOM. OKAY.

THE BIG OPEN RECTANGLE IS THE LOCKER ROOMS. CORRECT? OKAY.

YEAH. RIGHT ABOVE THE DANCE.

THE RED X IS THE LOCKER ROOM.

I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

I AM CURIOUS AS TO IF THERE'S ANY LIKE INFRASTRUCTURAL KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE OF RECENT CONSTRUCTION, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS IS A BIG DEAL, THIS WALK ALSO THE DISTRACTION WALKING, SOMETIMES IN VERY LITTLE CLOTHES REMEMBER, I WAS A DANCER.

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$1.4 MILLION SIGNIFICANT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF US GOING BACK TO FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE ANY INFRASTRUCTURAL KNOWLEDGE HERE.

IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING REALLY QUICK, I KNOW WE'RE NOT IN THE DESIGN PHASE AT ALL RIGHT NOW, BUT WHERE I THINK I HEAR YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT THE DOOR THAT'S A WALL OF MIRRORS, AND IT'S IN THE DEAD CENTER OF THEIR DANCE SPACE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD PUT IT THERE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE CORNER, IF ANYTHING, BUT JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO CUT THROUGH THE MIRRORS AT ALL.

THEN IT DOES MAKE SENSE THAT THEY GO THROUGH THAT HALLWAY AND GO THROUGH THAT DOOR.

THAT WAS GOOD CONTEXT BECAUSE YEAH, THAT'S THE WALL OF MIRRORS.

THERE'S MIRRORS ON EACH SIDE, PROBABLY.

ONLY ON THAT NORTH WALL.

THERE'S NOT THERE'S A WINDOW ON THIS SOUTH WALL.

YEAH. THAT'S IMPORTANT CONTEXT.

THANK YOU. WHAT IS IN THAT LITTLE SPACE NOW THAT THE DRAWING IS UP ON THE SCREEN? THE BIG RECTANGULAR SQUARE JUST ABOVE THE RED X IS THE DRESSING ROOM.

WHAT IS IN THAT LITTLE SQUARE THAT HAS NOTHING ON IT, THAT WOULD LITERALLY BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE.

THAT'S THE OFFICES FOR ALL THE DIRECTORS.

SO THERE'S THREE DIRECTORS THAT LIVE IN THAT.

OKAY. OTHER TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

OH, YOU TURN YOUR LIGHT OFF.

I WAS JUST GOING TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE MIRROR OF WALLS OR WALL MIRROR.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER.

NO, I DON'T HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON TRUSTEE WESTON.

GO AHEAD. SO I WILL SAY I WORKED FOR YEARS AT A MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING FIRM.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT EXIST THAT SHOW LIKELY SIGNED BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, A PE THAT ALL WE DO NEED TO DO IS GET OUR HANDS ON TO FIND OUT WHAT'S BEHIND THAT WALL.

IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY.

SO CAN WE BRING THIS BACK WITH A MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT? THE PRICE AND WHAT'S FINE.

AS MUCH AS WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S BEHIND THAT WALL.

YES. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? LIKE I SEE IT IS A VERY LONG WALK.

DISAPPOINTED IT WASN'T ADDED AT THE TIME, BUT WHAT'S DONE IS.

I WOULD WAGER THAT'S LIKE A THIRD OF THE CAMPUS ALMOST WALK LIKE IT'S A LOT.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE TRUSTEES? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INFORMATION ON THAT ONE.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ITEM D6, THE STONY POINT.

THERE SHOULD BE A SLASH BETWEEN DANCE AND THE CLASSROOM ADDITION BECAUSE IT IS TWO PROJECTS AT STONY POINT.

SO ITEM D6 STONY POINT HIGH SCHOOL DANCE AND CLASSROOM ADDITION.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I THINK I ASKED A QUESTION, AND AGAIN THESE CAME TODAY.

NORMALLY I WOULD HAVE READ THESE ABOUT 4 OR 5 TIMES TO TRY AND MEMORIZE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE, AND I HAD TIME TO READ IT ONCE, BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ORIGINALLY THE STONY POINT DANCE SPACE WAS $7 MILLION.

NO WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PRICE THAT YOU PRESENTED IN THE? I THINK IT WAS $9.1, $9.1, AND NOW THE STONY POINT DANCE ADDITION IS 20, 22.

IT'S A HUGE JUMP.

IS THERE A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD PRICE BETWEEN 9 AND 22? THIS IS KIND OF THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD WITH DEER PARK.

IT'S THE FULL SUITE VERSUS JUST DOING THE DANCE CLASS, YOU KNOW, THE DANCE STUDIO.

SO WE CAN WE CAN WORK UP THE SAME THING LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DEER PARK, WHERE WE JUST DO THE DANCE SPACE AND ALL THE SUPPORTING SPACES THAT GO WITH IT.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS IN THE $22 MILLION? YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY YOU SAID FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL IT WAS TWO 1600 SQUARE FOOT DANCE ROOMS. OKAY. THIS IS TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE $22 MILLION PRICE TAG WOULD BE? WITH THE GROSSING FACTOR WHAT WAS IT? YEAH, THE NET WAS 16,520.

YEAH, 16,520.

TIMES THE GROSS 16,520FT².

HOLD ON. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE TOTAL, AND SO WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT 16,000FT²? THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THE 16,520 IT'S TIMES A 1.5 GROSSING FACTOR.

SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF ABOUT A 25,000 24,780FT² ADDITION, AND THEN MY, BUT WHAT ARE THEY GETTING FOR

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THEY ARE GETTING ONE DANCE STUDIO AT 5500, ONE DANCE/COLOR GUARD STUDIO AT 5500, UNIFORM STORAGE AT 800 GENERAL STORAGE.

I'M SORRY. UNIFORM GENERAL UNIFORM STORAGE AT 800.

GENERAL STORAGE AT 400.

MAT AND FLOOR STORAGE AT 400.

VARSITY DANCE LOCKERS JV DANCE LOCKERS.

DANCE CLASS LOCKERS.

I'M SORRY. THOSE THOSE LOCKER ROOMS ARE AT 700 EACH.

THE DANCE CLASS LOCKERS ARE 1000.

THE CHEER LOCKERS ARE 500 INCLUSIVE SHOWERS AND TOILET, 320.

OFFICE AT 420.

FACULTY TOILET AND SHOWER ROOM 80 OBSERVATION MEZZANINE 200.

SO THAT'S THE FULL SUITE.

MAY I ASK, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AT STONY POINT? SURE. IT'S STONEY POINT, ACTUALLY.

WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES.

ONE THAT WAS A TRADITIONAL FACILITY AT JUST UNDER 1500.

SO IT'S ALREADY A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL SPECS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND THEN THEY CONVERTED A WEIGHT ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT YEAR WAS BEFORE I WAS HERE.

THAT'S I THINK SITS AT 1400 OR SO AS WELL, BUT IT ALSO HAS A POLE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST PRESENTATION OF AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE, IS THAT THEY REALLY HAVE ONE FUNCTIONAL DANCE SPACE THAT THEY UTILIZE.

WITH BOTH OF THOSE SPACES, THERE IS NO DEDICATED CHANGING AREA AND NO DEDICATED LOCKER ROOM FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

IF YOU HAD A BLUEPRINT OF IT, YOU COULD SEE THE DANCE STUDIO THAT HAS UNDISTURBED SPACE [INAUDIBLE] DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ATTACHED TO IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALLWAYS.

AT STONY POINT, AND THERE'S A BATHROOM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.

AND I MEAN, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT HE JUST READ, THAT SOUNDS REALLY CLOSE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE THAT SOUNDS REALLY CLOSE TO WHAT WESTWOOD HAS JUST COMPLETED WITH THE ADDITION OF A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT MCNEIL CURRENTLY HAS, LIKE THE CATWALK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT I HEARD THE OBSERVATION DECK, BUT RIGHT NOW, STONY POINT IS THE FURTHEST BEHIND IN TERMS OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL FACILITIES.

TRUSTEE MARKUM. OKAY.

SO I'LL FLOW RIGHT INTO THAT BECAUSE THE NOTE THAT WE HAVE ON THIS, THE PROJECT SPREADSHEET SAYS THAT THE PROPOSAL FOR 22 MILLION WOULD BRING THEM, WOULD BRING STONY POINT MORE IN LINE WITH MCNEIL AND CEDAR RIDGE, AND YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THIS IS WHAT WESTWOOD JUST COMPLETED.

SO REALLY, IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PIECE THINGS OUT, AND WE REALLY JUST HAVE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS WHO AREN'T REALLY ALIGNED WITH THE OTHER THREE.

THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT I THINK WOULD BE IDEAL TO REACH FOR SPECS.

BECAUSE IT, IT IS SO CLOSE TO OUR OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS.

I ALSO DIDN'T REALIZE IN OUR HIGH SCHOOL SPECS WE HAVE A DEDICATED COLOR GUARD ROOM.

YOU KNOW, AND I ALSO THINK ABOUT OUR BAND PROGRAM, COLOR GUARD, AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO STONY POINT TO HAVE THAT.

THAT'S A COMPETITIVE EDGE, TO HAVE A DEDICATED SPACE TO, TO PRACTICE.

SO THIS IS ONE THAT I SEE AS IDEAL IN MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR ED SPECS.

TRUSTEE WEIR. I ACTUALLY JUST WANTED AND I DON'T WANT TO DISAGREE WITH TRUSTEE MARKUM I THINK WE SHOULD BRING OUR HIGH SCHOOLS UP TO OUR ED SPECS, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MCNEIL HAS ALL THIS.

I KNOW WESTWOOD DOES AND CEDAR RIDGE DOES, BUT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT YOU GAVE US, THIS DANCE STUDIO IS 3456FT².

SO IT'S NOT EVEN THE 5500, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MCNEIL HAD OUR OWN COLOR GUARD ROOM, SO, BUT YOU'RE SAYING MCNEIL HAS ALL OF THIS? OH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL OF IT, BUT THEY'VE GOT MORE.

OH, I YEAH.

OKAY. MORE THAN.

TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE WORD MORE.

MORE WHAT? MORE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT STONY POINT.

OH, WELL, YEAH, WE KNOW STONY POINT IS WAY BEHIND, BUT SO WESTWOOD HAS DID THEY HAVE TWO 5500 SQUARE FOOT ROOMS? HOLD ON. I DON'T HAVE ALL OF IT AT MY FINGERTIPS.

I MEAN, CLOSE ENOUGH. THEY HAVE TWO SEPARATE SPACES, ONE FOR COLOR GUARD.

OKAY. CEDAR RIDGE.

OH. GO AHEAD. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WARRIOR STUDIO IS WHAT IT'S CALLED IS USED BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE BESIDES COLOR GUARD, IT'S ALSO HOUSES OUR CHEER AND DANCE AS WELL AS COLOR GUARD.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I. SO WOULD THAT ALSO BE USED AT STONY POINT IN THE SAME WAY? YES. WHERE ALL CHEER AND.

YES. SO WHERE ARE THEY? I KNOW YOU SAID THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED CHANGING SPACE.

WHERE ARE THEY CHANGING CURRENTLY AT STONY POINT? THEY GO AROUND SOME KIND OF SIMILAR TO MCNEIL BUT NOT AS FAR.

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THERE'S A BLACK BOX RIGHT NEXT TO IT AS WELL, AND KIND OF THE INTERSECTION HALLWAY TOWARDS THE BAND HALL, ORCHESTRA AND CHOIR AREAS.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT LOCKER ROOM SPACE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING SHOULD THIS PROJECT GO FORWARD AND BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS? THAT WOULD BE UP TO ATHLETICS.

I BELIEVE IT'S AN ATHLETIC LOCKER ROOM.

IT'S THEIRS. IT'S THAT PART OF THE GYM.

OKAY. TRUSTEE.

ZÁRATE. MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT STONY POINT'S REPRESENTATION ON THIS BOARD IS KIND OF SMALL, NONEXISTENT, ACTUALLY.

WE ALL REPRESENT EVERYWHERE BECAUSE WE'RE AT LARGE, BUT THEY OFTEN GET OVERLOOKED.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM GET SOMETHING AS SPECIAL AS THIS, TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED WITH OUR OTHER SCHOOLS THAT HAVE IT ALREADY.

I'M ALL FOR THIS.

I WISH IT COULD BE A LITTLE CHEAPER, BUT WE WISH THAT ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THESE DAYS AND IN AGES, WE DON'T.

WE'RE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN, AND FOR ME, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO PINCH PENNIES ON THAT.

SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

TRUSTEE HARRISON. YEAH, I'M IN FULL FAVOR, ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING THE ITEMIZED LIST.

I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A HIGH PRICE POINT, BUT THAT IS A LOT OF UPDATES TO BRING THIS UP TO SPEED, AND SO AS SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THIS ARENA, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROJECT AND I DO THINK IT'S SCOPED AND PRICED CORRECTLY.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY THAT THE VLC WHERE WE HAVE THE HIGHEST PROJECTED GROWTH IS THE STONY POINT VLC.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

BASED ON THE LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLANNING AND THE FMP DATA THAT WE GOT.

OKAY, AND I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT I SAID EARLIER, WANTING TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS OF HIGH GROWTH AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THOSE, THOSE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO SUPPORT GROWTH.

I FEEL LIKE THIS THIS ALIGNS WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY.

TRUSTEE WEIR. I JUST HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT A MASTER PLAN FOR STONY POINT AND CEDAR RIDGE, AND THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T NEEDED, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE'VE KIND OF PLANNED OUT WHERE THIS CLASSROOM ADDITIONS AND THE I MEAN, THIS IS A LOT OF ADDITIONS.

SO THE DANCE SPACE AND THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS WERE GOING TO GO AND ROTC AND ROTC, RIGHT.

BASED ON GOOGLE EARTH FOOTAGE.

YES, WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS FEASIBLE TO FIND THE SPACE FOR IT.

THE CLASSROOM ADDITION IS PRETTY EASY.

THERE'S KIND OF WINGS AT STONY POINT THAT YOU CAN KIND OF ADD ON TO THE END OF IT, AND THEN THE, THE DANCE AREA, THERE'S KIND OF THIS OPEN AREA BACK BY THE EXISTING GYMS THAT WAS PROPOSED IS WHERE THAT COULD GO.

SO AND THE MODULAR BUILDING I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE WE PUT THAT, BUT IT WAS FEASIBLE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

I, I'M ALL FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THAT IT'S NEEDED.

DEFINITELY IS A CAMPUS THAT CAN BE OVERLOOKED AND ARE NOT THE BEST FOR ADVOCATING FOR THEMSELVES, AND SO I APPRECIATE THE CBC BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THE FACILITIES LOOK LIKE AT STONY POINT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS BROUGHT IN LINE.

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY NEED TO BRING THIS BACK IN DISCUSSION? DISCUSS IT AGAIN? NO, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD SKIP TO D8 AND GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE ROTC BUILDING SINCE.

NO. YES.

THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GROUPED BETTER.

THANK YOU FOR CONTINUALLY POINTING OUT THAT I DID NOT GROUP THEM BY CAMPUSES WHEN THIS WAS DEVELOPED.

I WAS OVERSEAS IN DOING THIS WITH A MAJOR TIME DIFFERENCE, SO I APOLOGIZE.

YES, WE CAN GO ON.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT STONY POINT DANCE LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GOOD TO GO.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO STONY POINT ROTC BUILDING.

AGAIN THIS WAS LET ME SORRY I'M WRITING TIMESTAMPS DOWN.

THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT FORWARD AS A MODULAR BUILDING AT THE JULY 18TH BOARD MEETING.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHILE THAT WAS A HUMBLE REQUEST, THEY WOULD LIKE A STANDALONE FACILITY IN THE QUESTION AND NOT A STANDALONE.

THEY WOULD LIKE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE IN THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT OUT TODAY, I BELIEVE THE COST WAS WHAT PAGE IS IT SOMEBODY HAVE THAT? ON OUR QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT.

NO IT SAID WORKING.

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

ON WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT THE ROTC, I THOUGHT IT SAID $5.6 MILLION YEAH. WHERE IS THAT ON OUR I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE $5.6 MILLION.

PAGE SEVEN. IT SAYS THE MODULAR BUILDING $6.3 MILLION.

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PAGE SEVEN AT THE TOP, IT SAYS THE MODULAR BUILDING IS A 50 BY 100 BUILDING FOR $1.2 MILLION.

TO ADD THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AS A PERMANENT SPACE, WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO ADD A GROSSING FACTOR, BRINGING IT UP TO ABOUT 75,000FT², 7500FT².

MY APOLOGIES.

AT $900 A SQUARE FOOT, WHICH WOULD TAKE THAT PROJECT COST TO $6.375 MILLION.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? WANT TO DISCUSS IT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT? TRUSTEE WEIR. IF THIS WERE TO BE AN ACTUAL BUILDING VERSUS A MODULAR, I MEAN, LINDSEY JUST SAID THAT YOU'D LOOKED AT MODULAR SPACES, AND MAYBE THIS IS A SCOTT QUESTION.

WOULD THEY ALL BE COMBINED? IS IT IS THERE ANY.

I KNOW YOU SAID DANCE AND THE WING WERE VERY SEPARATE, SO WE DIDN'T GET ANY LIKE BONUS OR DISCOUNT FOR DOING THAT, BUT DOES THIS GO INTO EITHER ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE COULD GET? NO. OKAY. WELL THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT I'M I PULLED UP GOOGLE.

I DON'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF GOOGLE EARTH IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT LOOKING AT IT WHERE THE DANCE PROPOSAL WAS, THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL ADJACENT OPEN SPACE.

SO I CAN LET SCOTT SPEAK.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I DID ASK IS FOR AN OVERVIEW OF STONY POINT, SO THAT WE CAN GET AN AERIAL VIEW OF WHERE THESE ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING FOR THESE ALL OF THESE ADDITIONS TO GO, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF WORK ON THE STONY POINT CAMPUS TO PUT A CLASSROOM ADDITION, A DANCE ADDITION, AN ROTC FACILITY.

SO THAT WILL BE BY AUGUST 8TH MEETING.

YES. OKAY.

SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

WE'LL GIVE US SOME GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THESE PROJECTS WOULD GO, BUT ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

ANYTHING ELSE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

ANYBODY WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN AUGUST 8TH.

OKAY I THINK WAIT, WAIT.

JUST THINKING ABOUT PUTTING IT ON A REAL BUILDING THOUGH, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YES A $6.4 MILLION REAL BUILDING AT STONY POINT.

DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ADDING THAT AND UPPING THAT PROJECT COST? OKAY. CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE SPREADSHEET THAT REQUIRES A MAGNIFYING GLASS? CAN WE ADD THAT TO THAT, THAT LINE ITEM.

CHANGE THAT LINE ITEM.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THAT.

YES. SURE.

OKAY. AWESOME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON. WE ARE MAKING FAST WORK OF THIS.

NUMBER SEVEN IS THE HERNANDEZ WOODSHOP CLASSROOM.

THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT THAT IN OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER IF SOMEBODY FINDS IT BEFORE ME.

LET ME KNOW.

HOLD ON. IF YOU RECALL, THERE IS A LINE ITEM AT DEER PARK FOR THEIR WOODSHOP CONVERSION, BUT THE HERNANDEZ WOOD SHOP CONVERSION OF PAGE THREE.

WHAT? BOTTOM OF PAGE THREE.

THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET SOME DETAILS, SCOTT, ON THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE COSTS WERE ACTUALLY PRETTY SIMILAR, BUT YOU SAID THAT DEER PARK NEEDED A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK IN ORDER TO GET THAT SPACE UP TO USABILITY.

SO CAN YOU DETAIL OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE AND WHY I MEAN, I KNOW IT SAYS IN HERE THAT HERNANDEZ IS A PRIORITY. OH, IT'S A PRIORITY TWO, SORRY.

IN SIMILAR SCOPE, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CAMPUS WAS THE SPACE AT HERNANDEZ HAVE MORE RECENT ADDITIONS, AND IT'S CLOSER TO MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAMS THAN THE SPACE AT DEER PARK, BUT CORRECT.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL? I THINK JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT HERNANDEZ IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF WHERE DEER PARK IS.

SO WE USED, I THINK, 450 A FOOT AT HERNANDEZ, AND WE USE 600 PER FOOT AT DEER PARK, AND SO THAT'S THE COST DIFFERENCE.

THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS I THINK WERE PRETTY SIMILAR.

I THINK HERNANDEZ IS A LITTLE SMALLER, BUT WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DO MORE INTENSIVE RENOVATIONS AT DEER PARK THAN WE WOULD HERNANDEZ. LINDSEY, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S A P2 AS OPPOSED TO A P1? SO I SEE DR. FLYNN HERE, TOO.

SO, AND I KNOW SHE WAS THE PRINCIPAL OF THAT CAMPUS, SO I'M HOPING SHE HAS SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, BUT THE DISCUSSION ON THE COMMITTEE WAS WHEN THEY SPOKE OR I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SPOKE WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THAT CAMPUS, AND THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN WAS THAT THE HERNANDEZ SPACE, WHILE IT COULD HAVE FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS, IT ALREADY HAD A LOT OF THE CAPABILITIES NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE CTE PROGRAMING THAT WAS THAT WAS DESIRED AT THAT CAMPUS, BUT DEER PARK DIDN'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY YET.

DO YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT, DR.

FLYNN? YES. SO PATRICIA FLYNN, AREA SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE STONY POINT LEARNING COMMUNITY, AND YES, SO IN THAT ROOM, IT'S ROOM 401 ON THE CAMPUS.

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THERE'S OUTLETS.

THERE'S SPACE FOR THAT.

IT'S PART OF THAT CLASSROOM IS UNUSABLE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT IS A WOOD SHOP.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE AREA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AT HERNANDEZ.

YES, AT HERNANDEZ.

THAT'S THE WOOD SHOP AREA.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE SPACE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REDONE, RECLAIMED, AND BUT THERE IS USABLE SPACE IN THAT CLASSROOM CURRENTLY, BUT HALF OF THE CLASSROOM IS NOT USABLE.

I WOULDN'T SAY HALF, BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF THE CLASSROOM THAT IS NOT USABLE AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S $2.1 MILLION NOT USABLE, TO DO A PORTION OF THAT ROOM.

THOSE ARE LARGE SPACES.

I'LL GET YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IF I DIDN'T PROVIDE IT IN THERE.

BUT THEY'RE BIG, BUT IF WE'RE ONLY DOING A SMALL PORTION OF IT, IS THAT $2.1 MILLION TO DO A SMALL PORTION OF THAT ROOM? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY TO CUT COSTS HERE BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE APPLYING THESE COSTS TO THE WHOLE SPACE BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'D HAVE TO IMPROVE.

OKAY. TRUSTEES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE WESTON. I SEE YOU.

MADAM CHAIR. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT PAGE 13 FOR THIS PROJECT? HOLD ON. IT'S HERNANDEZ NUMBER.

SOMEBODY FINDS IT BEFORE ME BECAUSE YOU SAID $2.1, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTALS UNDER HERNANDEZ.

HOLD ON. I DON'T THINK IT'S ON HERE.

IT WASN'T ON HERE BECAUSE THAT'S A YEAH.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS A IT WAS A P2 AND IT WAS COST WAS $2.1 MILLION.

SO THAT'S SO THE CBC DID NOT RECOMMEND THIS AS BEING A NEED FOR THE THIS YEAR, BUT I WHAT I LOOKED AT WAS WE HAD A WOOD SHOP CONVERSION AT DEER PARK AND WE HAVE A WOOD SHOP CONVERSION ON HERNANDEZ.

ONE MADE IT TO A P1 ONE MADE IT TO A P2.

WHY ARE THEY NOT AT THE SAME LEVEL AND HOW IS THAT SPACE BEING USED? AND SO I ASKED TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE HERNANDEZ SPOT, AND I'LL BE REAL HONEST, I HAVE A VERY SOFT SPOT IN MY HEART FOR HERNANDEZ, BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CAMPUSES THAT GETS LOOKED OVERLOOKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T NOT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE P1 JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE COMMITTEE REALLY ADVOCATING FOR IT, AND IF THEY NEED THIS, THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET IT.

AND IF WE HAVE UNUSABLE SPACE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE STUDENTS IN THAT SCHOOL.

DO WE NEED TO ADD IT? SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

DOES WHAT IS THE CAMPUS WANT? WOULD THEY LIKE TO HAVE MORE SPACE FOR CTE? YES, OF COURSE THE CAMPUS WOULD WANT MORE SPACE.

IT IS UNUSABLE SPACE AT THIS POINT.

THAT WOODSHOP AREA, BUT THE ENTIRE CLASSROOM IS IS NOT UNUSABLE.

A BIG PORTION OF THE CLASSROOM IS USABLE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A CTE SPACE FOR THEIR TECH APPS, FOR THEIR COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSES.

THERE IS ONE SECTION OF THE ROOM THAT IS NOT USABLE BECAUSE IT IS OUTFITTED FOR WOODSHOP, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS A P2, BECAUSE WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING AT IT, A GOOD PORTION OF THE CLASSROOM IS USABLE, BUT THERE IS A PART OF THE CLASS THAT IS UNUSABLE.

DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT PART THAT IS NOT USABLE? WE COULD SEND SOMEBODY OUT AND GET MEASUREMENTS.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT NOT NEED THE WHOLE $2.1 MILLION IF WE JUST NEED TO ADDRESS OUTFITTING THAT PORTION.

SURE. IT'S JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S $1.9 AND WE APPLIED A LOWER SQUARE FOOT COST THAN WE DID AT DEER PARK.

RIGHT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU'RE APPLYING THAT TO.

IF YOU'RE APPLYING IT TO THE WHOLE WOOD SHOP ROOM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.

IF WHAT DR. EFLIN IS SAYING IS IT'S ONLY A PORTION OF THE ROOM THAT NEEDS TO BE CONVERTED .

SO I JUST I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SPACE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, AND MAYBE I NEED TO SET UP A TOUR TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT SPACE, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT HERNANDEZ THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS BOARD HAS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE HERNANDEZ HAS THAT SPACE TO USE IT AND NOT HAVE UNUSED SPACE THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE BECAUSE IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATING.

IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY THE GOAL, I MEAN, EVEN THE USABLE SPACE WOULD STILL NEED RENOVATED, AND THE INTENT IS THOSE DOLLAR ALLOCATIONS BRING BOTH SPACES UP TO THE SAME STANDARD HOLISTICALLY.

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I WAS JUST THERE THIS SPRING, BUT I DIDN'T LOOK INTO THAT PARTICULAR CLASSROOM.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT, AND WHAT ARE OTHER TRUSTEES THOUGHTS ON THIS WOODSHOP SPACE AT HERNANDEZ? I AGREE THAT, LIKE DEER PARK, HERNANDEZ IS A CAMPUS THAT GETS OVERLOOKED A LOT.

MY ONLY CONCERN, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING NOW AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HERNANDEZ, IS THAT WE JUST KEEP ADDING, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TRAJECTORY AS WE GO THROUGH.

IF I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CUT SOMETHING ELSE AND GIVE HERNANDEZ $1.9, BUT AT THIS POINT, I, I, I WANT US TO JUST BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE JUST SEEM TO KEEP ADDING THINGS ONTO THIS LIST.

I'M ABOUT TO RECOMMEND A HUGE CUT COMING UP HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT WELL, I TRIED TO GET RID OF $15 MILLION, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

MAY I OFFER BEFORE YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO TO THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO PULL WHAT I DID IN THE LAST ONE IS THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE WATCHING THESE MEETINGS AND SO ON.

HERNANDEZ, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT IS ON THAT WAS ON THE GROWTH SUBCOMMITTEE JUST SENT A MESSAGE THAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT HERNANDEZ, THAT THEY HAVE DROPS FOR ELECTRIC AND INTERNET IN THAT ROOM.

DEER PARK DOES NOT, AND SHE SAID THERE'S MAYBE 20 BY 20FT OF UNUSABLE SPACE THAT'S NOT USABLE AT HERNANDEZ.

SO IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION, AND THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE NOTE IN THERE WAS 4379FT² IN THAT TOTAL SHOP AND TECH LAB SPACES.

SO YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT A SMALL PORTION OF THAT SPACE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE RENOVATED.

YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED $1.9 MILLION TO UPGRADE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO UPGRADE THE WHOLE ROOM, BUT IF WE ALREADY HAVE INTERNET AND WE'RE USING THAT SPACE, AND IT'S FEASIBLE IF WE CAN UPGRADE THAT 20 BY 20 FOR $500,000, THEN AS LONG AS IT'S NOT GLARINGLY OBVIOUS THAT, I MEAN, I WANT OUR CHILDREN, OUR STUDENTS, TO BE PROUD OF THE FACILITIES, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING SPACE THAT'S BEING USED. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO RENOVATE THE WHOLE ROOM, AND WE COULD JUST LOOK AT THAT 20 BY 20 SPACE TO, TO RECLAIM THAT 400FT².

PRESIDENT LANDRUM. PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

I WAS ON THE TOUR OF THIS FACILITY, THAT ROOM IS DIVIDED RIGHT NOW BY CABINETS.

THEY WANT A WALL SO THEY CAN SEPARATE THAT ROOM TO WHERE WHEN SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON WHERE THE WOODSHOP IS NOW, SOME OTHER CTE THAT IT DOESN'T DISTURB THE COMPUTER STUFF THAT'S GOING ON.

RIGHT NOW THE SPACE IS WIDE OPEN, SEPARATED BY SOME CABINETS AS A FALSE WALL.

SO NEED TO DIVIDE THE ROOM WITH A WALL.

SO THE $1.9 MILLION INCLUDES A WALL.

YES. OKAY. WELL NOW THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, AND THAT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE CAMPUS.

YES OKAY. OKAY.

DR. [INAUDIBLE] YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT A WALL AND HAVING A TOTALLY SEPARATE SPACE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH THAT OTHER, BUT WE HAVE TO BUILD A WALL, AND IS THERE AN ACCESS TO THAT ROOM WITH THE DOOR? THERE IS A DOOR ALREADY THERE. IS IT A $1.4 MILLION DOOR? IT'S ALREADY THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO ADD THE DOOR.

THE DOOR IS THERE. YES, THE DOOR IS ALREADY THERE.

OKAY, SO MAYBE WE COULD GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SPACE.

I'LL BRING HERNANDEZ WOODSHOP BACK AND WE CAN LOOK AT OVERALL PRICES, AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM TRUSTEE WEIR. I AM NOT AT THE POINT YET WHERE I WANT TO START CUTTING THINGS.

I SAY THAT WE REVIEW EVERYTHING AND THEN WE GET OUR TOTAL AND THEN WE SAY, WHAT PRICE CAN WE LIVE WITH? AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO, THEN WE DECIDE AT THAT POINT WHAT WE HAVE TO CUT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO NOT PUT SOMETHING ON AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE ARE AFRAID ABOUT OUR TOTAL IS. I SAY WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, WE MAKE OUR TOTAL, AND THEN WE COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE UNDER $1 BILLION.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO CUT $20 MILLION FROM IT? SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, RATHER THAN MAKING A DECISION KIND OF AD HOC ALONG THE WAY, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A TEAM APPROACH ON THIS. DID EVERYBODY GET THEIR QUESTIONS? OKAY. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF LIKE I CALLED ON PEOPLE OR NOT.

SO TRUSTEE WESTON, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SCOPE CREEP THAT I SEE WITH THE BOND.

IT'S REALLY EASY TO ADD THINGS.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ANYTHING NEAR A $1 BILLION BOND, AND GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE, I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE REAL AND LEGITIMATE NEEDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE STUDENTS, BUT I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY OF THE

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BUT I DO WANT TO GET MY CONCERNS ON THE RECORD.

OKAY. TRUSTEE MARKUM YOUR LIGHTS ON.

DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.

GOT IT. ALL RIGHT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PURPLE SAGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EDITION.

AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A THREE CLASSROOM ADDITION AT, I THINK, $4.6 MILLION.

MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY.

THOUGHTS ON THIS? WHY IS THIS ON HERE? WHAT CAN YOU JUST SHARE WHY IS THIS ON FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT? SO EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THIS DISCUSSION IS THINGS THAT HAD QUESTIONS AT THE JULY 18TH MEETING AND WE WANTED ADDITIONAL.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE IF WHOEVER PUT IT ON HERE CAN HELP US, CAN WE QUICKLY JUST GET TO WHATEVER THE QUESTIONS WERE SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND MAYBE WHY IT'S ON HERE? TRUSTEE WEIR HAS A COMMENT.

I THINK I'M THE ONE BECAUSE I ASKED WHERE THIS CAME FROM.

BECAUSE IT IT WASN'T, I DON'T THINK PART OF THE LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN, IT WASN'T BROUGHT BY THE ADMINISTRATION WHERE THESE THREE ROOMS CAME FROM.

I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS THE SAME AS I DO FOR THE DEER PARK BRIDGE, WHICH WILL NOT MAKE ME VERY POPULAR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S SOMETHING I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY HAS WANTED AND ASKED FOR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

I'M NOT SURE $4.8 MILLION IS BEST SPENT IN THIS SPACE.

I WOULD CONCUR WITH THOSE THOUGHTS.

ANYBODY ELSE? TRUSTEES. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I MEAN, I NEED TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THIS FROM OUR LIST.

SO I NEED TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY.

TRUSTEE HARRISON IS THERE ANY EXTRA CONTEXT FROM CBC ON THIS ONE? WELL, AS YOU RECALL, TRUSTEE I MEAN, TRUSTEE MISS MISS LEDYARD SAID THAT THERE WAS SHE SAID FOR TRANSPARENCY'S SAKE, THERE WAS ONE PARENT ON THE COMMITTEE THAT KNEW THE CAMPUS VERY WELL AND STRONGLY ADVOCATED FOR THIS THREE CLASSROOM ADDITION AND TO ENCLOSE THE COVERED KIND OF OUTDOOR SPACE.

I REMEMBER THAT, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT SINCE THAT TIME? YEAH. SO THE ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL CONTEXT IS THAT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBER DIDN'T JUST COME UP WITH THAT OUT OF THIN AIR.

SHE HEARD THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE PRINCIPAL, EVEN IF IT WASN'T WRITTEN IN THE PRINCIPAL SURVEY.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN OUT THERE FOR A WHILE AT THAT SCHOOL AS BEING DISCUSSED, THAT THIS COULD BE A SPACE THAT COULD BE EASILY ENCLOSED AND POTENTIALLY SOLVE SOME PORTABLE ISSUES SO THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.

AND I KNOW DR. OLDHAM, YOU'RE HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.

YES. THANK YOU. I DID SPEAK TO THE PRINCIPAL.

COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? I'M SORRY.

ZACK OLDHAM, AREA SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE WESTWOOD LEARNING COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. I DID SPEAK TO SARAH NELSON, THE PRINCIPAL THERE AT PURPLE SAGE.

THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.

I BELIEVE THEY WERE 320 IN 2014.

WE'RE QUICKLY APPROACHING NEARLY 500.

WE DO HAVE TWO PORTABLES THERE CURRENTLY.

THEY DO HAVE A VERY UNIQUE SPACE.

THE OUTDOOR GYMNASIUM IS NOT SOMETHING THEY USE A LOT, AND SO WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE SPACES BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY, THEY'RE NOT AT CAPACITY, BUT THEY'RE NOT FAR OFF OF IT. SO IF THE IF THE GROWTH CONTINUES TO TREND THAT DIRECTION, THEY WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ADDING ON THEIR WITHIN THAT OUTDOOR GYMNASIUM.

WHAT IS THE GROWTH FORECASTED AT THAT CAMPUS.

IS IT TO INCREASE OR DECLINE FROM THE TEN YEAR PROJECTIONS? I DON'T HAVE THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PROJECTING ABOUT 370 THIS YEAR, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY AT 380 RIGHT NOW FOR THE CURRENT SEAT COUNT, AND SO THEY'VE GROWN NEARLY 160 KIDS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ADDITIONAL CONTACTS TRUSTEE HARRISON? YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT IS IMMEDIATELY NEEDED, BUT I THINK ALSO CLASSROOM SPACE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS AND THEN SEE WHERE WE LAND WITH WHAT WE DECIDE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CUT.

OKAY. I HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT MAYBE WANTING TO REMOVE IT.

SO TRUSTEE MARKUM YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? DO WE KNOW THE UTILIZATION AT THAT CAMPUS? I JUST HAD TIME TO PULL IT UP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT LITTLE BREAK.

RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT UTILIZATION IS 74%.

IT'S PROJECTED TO GROW BY 2033 TO 75%.

I THINK ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THERE ARE INCREASED PROGRAMS AT THAT CAMPUS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING.

SO I THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL PRE-K CLASSROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT AT THAT CAMPUS AS WELL.

SO SOMETIMES THE UTILIZATION CAN MASK WHAT THE ACTUAL USE OF THE CAMPUS IS.

SO JUST BEAR THAT IN MIND.

SO THAT COULD BE A PROGRAMING THING THAT WE COULD REMOVE SOME PROGRAMING TO NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THE THREE CLASSROOMS.

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I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS A GENUINE QUESTION.

I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE CAMPUS, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE SEVERAL UNITS THERE, INCLUDING TWC ACHIEVE PRE-K THREE AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THAT'S IT ACTUALLY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT.

I WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT MORE BEFORE GOING FORWARD WITH THE CLASSROOM ADDITION.

IF WE'VE PUT PROGRAMING THERE THAT WARRANTS AN ADDITION THAT IF WE PUT THAT PROGRAM IN AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, I KNOW IT'S DISRUPTIVE TO MOVE PROGRAMING FROM CAMPUSES, AND I AM HESITANT TO EVEN DISCUSS THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU'RE PUTTING A CLASSROOM EXTENSION ON BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING NON NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS IN THAT CLASSROOM, PERHAPS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE UTILIZATION OF THAT CAMPUS AS WELL.

TRUSTEE HARRISON. OH, WAIT, I WASN'T I WASN'T FINISHED.

OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. CAN I SAY ONE THING ABOUT THAT ONE THING, THOUGH? I JUST HEAR MARCIA IN MY HEAD SAYING INPUT OUTPUT, OUTCOME.

LIKE THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR NO, BUT IT IS OUR DECISION ON WHETHER WE PUT A THREE CLASSROOM EXTENSION.

I UNDERSTAND, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN MANDATE THAT WE MOVE SOMETHING UNLESS ADMINISTRATION CAME BACK AND SAID LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT YEAH, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION BASED ON THAT.

SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, TOO, WAS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF THE PORTABLE ISSUES AND MAKING SURE WE GET STUDENTS IN BUILDINGS, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS NOT POPULAR, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE ROUTE WE SHOULD GO, BUT ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT LOOKING AT BOUNDARIES WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, AND SO I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO ADD ON IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE BOUNDARY PIECE OF IT FIRST.

I ALSO WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE PUT PROJECTS AS P2 OR P3, THEN THAT THEN GIVES THE NEXT IN THE NEXT BOND CYCLE.

THAT WOULD GIVE THE BOND COMMITTEE AN IDEA OF THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AND THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT ON A LIST, BUT MAYBE NOT AP1 TO GO ON THAT BOND.

I'D BE COMFORTABLE LISTING IT THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION IS RECORDED, BUT WITHOUT THAT BOUNDARY PIECE, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? TRUSTEES. TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I, I'M KIND OF WITH Y'ALL ON THIS.

IF IT'S NECESSARY. THAT'S GREAT.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF MOVING IT TO A P2 OR P3 SO THAT IT DOES HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

IF IT, IF THE PROJECTIONS ACTUALLY SHOW LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GOING TO GROW TO A POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. YEAH. AGAIN, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT PROGRAMS AND STUFF EITHER.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT MOVING IT TO A P2 OR P3 WOULDN'T BOTHER ME, AND I DID WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MISSPEAKING.

IT'S NOT A PRE-K THREE. IT'S TWO PRE-K FOURS.

SO IT'S THEIR OWN STUDENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, DR.

OLDHAM, CAN I JUST ASK YOU ASKED WHAT WAS THE WHAT IS THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT THERE? RIGHT NOW THE SEAT COUNT, I BELIEVE, IS 480.

OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID IT WAS 380.

NO, IT WAS THREE. IT WAS 320, TEN YEARS AGO, AND IT'S 480 RIGHT NOW.

IT'S 480 NOW. 480, AND SO THAT'S SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS BASED ON THAT UTILIZATION NUMBER.

JUST SO WHAT WE SEE IN THAT DOCUMENT, IT WAS AT 469.

SO IT'S ALREADY TRENDING A LITTLE HIGHER, AND THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT HAS IT STABLE AT AROUND 500 OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS OKAY.

GREAT INFORMATION.

SO DO WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK? THE ONLY PERSON I HEARD SAY THAT THEY FOR SURE WANTED TO WAS TRUSTEE.

HARRISON. WELL, I THINK IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THINGS, THEN WE SHOULD NOT CUT THINGS.

I MEAN, I DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

LIKE, IF EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO CUT THE BRIDGE, THEN I CAN CUT THE BRIDGE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A HOLISTIC PICTURE YET, AND I DON'T WANT TO CUT ACADEMIC SPACE IF WE FIND THE MONEY FOR ACADEMIC SPACE, AND IF IT GETS US CLOSER TO NOT HAVING PORTABLES ON A CAMPUS, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END TO CUT, I JUST MY FEELINGS ARE THIS MIGHT BE HIGH ON MY LIST.

I AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM D TEN WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS FACILITY.

I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK BECAUSE I BELIEVE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS DR.

AZAIEZ MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PERHAPS THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD SPACE THAT WAS THOUGHT ABOUT BEING BOUGHT, AND WE NEEDED A LOT MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THIS WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO.

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SO THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, OBVIOUSLY, THAT CAME FROM THE CBC.

THERE WAS A NEED FOR ROBOTIC SPACE FOR OUR WESTWOOD STUDENTS, AS YOU KNOW.

I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE LEVEL.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE VERY THEY'RE VERY COMPETITIVE, AND THERE ARE 170 STUDENTS, I THINK, STRONG LAST YEAR, AND IT'S JUST GROWN YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND I THINK AND ZACH IS HERE WITH US TO EXPLAIN SOME MORE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE SPACE IN WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.

LIKE FOR IT.

I DON'T EVEN THINK WE HAVE A SPACE TO CONVERT IT INTO A ROBOTICS SPACE.

SO THIS WILL HAVE TO BE LIKE WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE A NEW SPACE RIGHT FOR IT, AND SO I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE HAVING A SPACE THAT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TIME FOR IT.

YEAH, YEAH, THE CLOSED SESSION, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT LIKE, IS I THINK THERE WAS SIX POINT SOMETHING MILLION.

HOW MUCH WAS IT. SIX.

YEAH. SO THERE WAS A SPACE THAT POTENTIALLY THERE WAS A SMALL SPACE THAT I GUESS THEY KIND OF ESTIMATED THAT COST DOES MUCH FOR THE DISTRICT TO ACQUIRE IT. IF THE BOARD AND THE VOTERS APPROVE THE BOND, BUT I THINK THAT SPACE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, RIGHT, LIKE ACROSS FROM WESTWOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WASN'T THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FROM.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN.

SO WHAT WAS BEING LOOKED AT WAS EXISTING SPACE WITHIN THE SCHOOL.

SO A RENOVATION THAT'S CURRENTLY USED, UTILIZED AND THIS IS THE THIS IS IN YOUR PROJECT LIST.

IT'S CURRENTLY UTILIZED BY THE LECTURE HALL, FASHION DESIGN AND OLD HOME ECONOMICS SPACE TO CREATE A MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT CTE AND ROBOTICS CAN USE, AND THEN THERE'S JUST A NOTE THAT IT MUST INCLUDE A NEW SPACE FOR FASHION DESIGN AND THE MONEY BEING ALLOCATED FROM THE BOND TO ALLOW FOR MORE SPACE FOR WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS NEEDS. SO WHERE WOULD THOSE SPACES GO? SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT SPACE ISN'T CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED UNLESS THEY WERE MISUNDERSTOOD.

MY UNDERSTANDING. I MEAN, ZACH IS HERE, BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING THE SPACE IS NOT AVAILABLE, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S VERY LIMITED.

THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A LECTURE HALL.

IT'S A VERY SMALL I WOULDN'T REALLY DESCRIBE IT AS A LECTURE HALL, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME ROOMS WITH REALLY ODDLY SHAPED ROOMS THAT AREN'T REALLY UTILIZED TO THE FULL EXTENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO WEIRDLY SHAPED, BUT WE ALSO REMEMBER WE ALSO THE COMMITTEE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ACQUIRING POSSIBLY A BUILDING.

RIGHT? SO THAT CONVERSATION ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN, I THINK, BECAUSE MAYBE YEAH, THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR SPACE, BUT I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING AT THERE WAS SOME KITCHEN SPACE, I THINK THAT WASN'T BEING USED FOR CULINARY.

SO THERE WAS SOME WEIRDLY SHAPED SPACES THAT AREN'T BEING FULLY UTILIZED.

SO I THINK THEIR THOUGHT WAS COULD THAT BE RECONFIGURED AND RENOVATED TO PROVIDE THAT SPACE? BUT MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.

I DID SPEAK TO AARON CAMPBELL A LITTLE BIT, THE PRINCIPAL AT WESTWOOD, AND SHE SPOKE ABOUT SO WE'VE HAD OVERALL FOR THE LEARNING COMMUNITY, ABOUT 400 STUDENTS, 170 AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY DID COMPETE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

THEY WENT THEY ADVANCED TO GO TO THE GLOBAL STATE.

I THINK THEY PLACED THIRD OR FOURTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THEY'RE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE LEARNING COMMUNITY OVERALL FROM THE ELEMENTARIES ALL THE WAY UP.

WE HAVE ABOUT 400 STUDENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN ROBOTICS CLUBS OR IN CLASSES THROUGH CTE.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

I TALKED TO MISS CAMPBELL ABOUT IT AND SAID, IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED OR WE WANT? AND SHE SAID SHE COMPARED IT TO IF YOU HAD A BASKETBALL TEAM THAT PRACTICED ON A HALF COURT, RIGHT, ALL THE TIME, THEY'RE NOT USED.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE THAT IT'S A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE NOT TO HAVE THAT SPACE.

SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON IF THIS PROJECT IS FEASIBLE TO EVEN HAPPEN ON THE CAMPUS, AND WHERE IS IT POSSIBLE TO EVEN PULL THIS PROJECT OFF? SO WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED AND WE DID DISCUSS IT WITH SCOTT, HE LOOKED AT THE COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE SPACES, AND SO THAT COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS 4043FT², AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS THAT YOU COULD RENOVATE THOSE SPACES AND PROVIDE SOME OF THAT FLEXIBILITY. FLEXIBILITY, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY.

YEAH. I WOULD JUST ADD THIS IS AN EXERCISE OF TAKING SOME SPACES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING USED VERY EFFICIENTLY AND IN RENOVATING AND REPROGRAMING THAT REPROGRAMING THAT REPROGRAMING THEM TO GET MORE EFFICIENCY OUT OF THEM, AND SO THAT'S THE INTENT THERE, AND IF THAT DOESN'T GIVE US THE FULL COURT, THEN MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT THE BEST RECOMMENDATION.

I DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR ROBOTICS IN THAT AREA, BUT I HAVE SEVERAL LIGHTS ON, SO TRUSTEE MARKUM.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ROBOTIC SPACES USING EXISTING FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE ROBOTIC SPACES FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

I KNOW WESTWOOD IN PARTICULAR.

I'VE SPENT TIME WITH THOSE KIDS.

IT'S THEY'RE VERY COMPETITIVE.

THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO, AND THERE'S A LOT OF INITIATIVE THERE THAT WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE, THEY MADE THINGS WORK.

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YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW PROGRAMS MCNEIL STORAGE, YOU KNOW THAT.

SO, WE'RE EXPANDING.

RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE AND ANOTHER SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WOULD PROVIDE ALSO SOME CONVENIENCE FOR OUR SPONSORS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR PARENTS, OUR STUDENTS.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A 45 MINUTE DRIVE OR WHATEVER ONE WAY.

RIGHT? BUT ALSO GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRACTICE SOME MORE.

RIGHT, AND HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY.

KEEP IN MIND ALSO ROBOTICS IT'S SOMEHOW THEY NEED LIKE DEDICATED SPACE MEANING LIKE YOU CANNOT, YOU CAN'T SHARE THE SPACE, BUT YOU HAVE TO PICK, YOU HAVE TO SET UP AND THEN PRACTICE AND THEN PICK UP EVERYTHING SO THE NEXT THING CAN COME AND PRACTICE AND DO THE SAME THING.

SO IT'S ALSO WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU ALSO WASTE IN TIME, LIKE IT'S TIME THAT YOU COULD BE SPENDING ON PRACTICING.

NOW YOU HAVE TO SET UP IT TAKES, I DON'T KNOW, 15, 20 MINUTES.

THEN YOU HAVE TO PICK IT UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER 15 20 MINUTES.

SO IT'S ALSO ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND PROVIDING MORE TIME FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY THE POSSIBILITY, RIGHT, OF HAVING A SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE.

I REMEMBER WE OWN GRIMES AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, AND THEN MAYBE IF THERE IS A CHANCE TO HAVE ANOTHER SPACE IN THE WEST SIDE.

YEAH, AND I'M, I MEAN, I CAN SAY I'M ALL FOR DEDICATED ROBOTICS SPACE.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IS AN AREA OF GROWTH IN OUR DISTRICT.

IT'S BEING EXPANDED TO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM AND DEDICATED FACILITIES IN THE DISTRICT, SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY IF WE PUT A ROBOTICS SPACE ON THE WESTWOOD CAMPUS, THEN IN THAT, DOES THAT THEN BECOME THE WEST SIDE FACILITY, OR IS THAT ONLY GOING TO BE FOR WESTWOOD? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN AT WESTWOOD.

THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO SAY WE MAY HAVE TO FIND A LOOK LIKE A CHOIR BUILDING OR SOME SPACE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO THE SCOPE COST IN HERE IS REALLY KIND OF NULL AND VOID, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO GET WHAT'S IN THIS, THIS SO I THINK SPREADSHEET.

I'M SORRY. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, LIKE LINDSEY WAS SAYING, I THINK WHAT STARTED AS POSSIBILITY OF CONVERTING SPACE WAS.

WOULD I THINK EVENTUALLY EVOLVED BECAUSE WE, I THINK, WENT THROUGH A CHECK.

WE WERE ENABLED LIKE TO REALLY CONVERT A SPACE AT WESTWARD.

SO THEN THE CONVERSATION, AS I SAID, START, WE START TALKING ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF ACQUIRING A SMALL BUILDING THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS PROGRAM, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU CAN EVEN BE OPEN FOR MCNEIL STUDENTS AND OTHER STUDENTS, LIKE, AS YOU SAID, LIKE FROM THE DIFFERENT VERTICAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES.

RIGHT? SO YEAH, THE I THINK THE INTENT WITH THIS WAS TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS NOT MUCH.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS REALLY THE INTENT BY JUST TRYING TO MAKE WHAT THEY HAVE MORE EFFICIENT SO THAT WE COULD CREATE SOME USABLE SPACE.

SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A PROJECTED COST.

IF WE'RE HAVING TO PURCHASE A BUILDING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T HAVE A COST FOR THAT, THAT BUILDING.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TO LOOK FOR THAT.

CORRECT. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT TO, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK WE MIGHT DISCUSS THIS MORE IN CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY. WELL, ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

SHE IS SORRY.

TRUSTEE ZÁRATE IS BEFORE.

OKAY. GO AHEAD.

WELL, MY POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS D-13 IS CTE BUILDING SLASH OPTIONS, WHICH I ASSUMED WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS AT LEAST SOME STUFF IN OPEN, AND I WAS HOPING WE COULD LOOP THIS INTO THAT DISCUSSION WITH WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS LOCAL.

OKAY. TRUSTEE ZÁRATE.

NO. I'M GOOD. OKAY.

NO, I HAVE I'M.

I SEE EVERYBODY'S LIGHTS. I'M GOING ON.

NEXT IS TRUSTEE. HARRISON.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON PAGE NINE OF THIS OLD CONSOLIDATED P1 PROJECT LIST UNDER

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GRIMES LOCATION.

IT TALKS ABOUT PURCHASING NECESSARY ROBOTICS EQUIPMENT.

SO THAT IS AN EAST SIDE.

THAT'S ITEM D 14 OKAY.

YES. SO. OH, THAT'S WHAT AMY WAS SAYING OKAY.

SO I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT, BUT THE SECOND THING IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET COST FOR EQUIPMENT SEPARATE FROM RENOVATING WESTWOOD.

FOR CTE ROBOTICS EQUIPMENT.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK THIS WAS INCLUDING ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT.

THIS WAS JUST SPACE.

OH, THAT WAS JUST SPACE RENOVATIONS.

CORRECT. JUST SPACE RENOVATIONS.

OKAY, THEN MY QUESTIONS WILL ROLL OVER TO CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE.

WESTON. SO WITH FIVE CHILDREN, I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A LOT OF PROGRAMS, BUT ROBOTICS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

SO, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE? WHAT IS THE DEFICIT? IS THIS LIKE, DO YOU NEED SPACE TO STORE THINGS? AND THAT IS A LOT OF SPACE.

BUT THEN YOU NEED A SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE TO DO THE ROBOTICS.

IS STORAGE NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED, BUT YOU JUST NEED LIKE A WIDE OPEN SPACE.

SO WHAT ARE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL WITH ROBOTICS? OKAY. YOU CAN START.

SO THEY DO HAVE CLASSROOMS WHERE THEY DO MOST OF THEIR DESIGNING AND BUILDING, BUT MAINLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS A PLACE LIKE A, I BELIEVE THEY CALL IT A FIELD IS WHERE THE COMPETITIONS ARE HELD.

STORAGE WOULD BE A BIG PLUS AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO OUT AND YOU HAVE TO SET UP THE COURSE AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY ACTUALLY COMPETE.

RIGHT, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE MISSING FOR THE MOST PART.

WE'D LOVE MORE ROOM AND MORE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CLASSROOMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THE BIG THING THAT THEY'RE MISSING IS THE ACTUAL SPACE TO COMPETE.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO MAKE DO, AND THEN A LOT OF THE CLUBS AND STUFF ARE HAPPENING OFF CAMPUS EVEN AT PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

CAN I OFFER A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR MY COLLEAGUE? SO JUST FOR REFERENCE, A FIELD IS LIKE THE SIZE OF A GYMNASIUM.

OR YOU MIGHT FIT 1 OR 2 FIELDS IN THE SIZE OF A GYM, AND THIS IS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT I KNOW YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A LOT, AND THAT IS ENROLLMENT.

WE HAVE PEOPLE LEAVE FOR BASIS BECAUSE OF LIKE STEM, STEAM ROBOTICS.

SO IT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD KEEP US VERY COMPETITIVE.

OKAY. SO, THIS SPACE IS NOT CONSTANTLY BEING USED.

WOULD NOT CONSTANTLY BEING USED BY ROBOTICS.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IT'S AN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY.

CORRECT. WE DO HAVE BOTH.

IT'S BOTH IT IS. IT'S A COURSE AS WELL.

OH, WE NOW HAVE A COURSE.

WE DO IT AT WESTWOOD.

YES. AT WESTWOOD. ANY OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE A COURSE FOR ROBOTICS I BELIEVE SO I, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE CAN'T PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION.

I THINK MCNEIL ALSO MCNEIL DOES, TOO, AND WE HAVE AGAIN VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE TEAMS. YEAH. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO STATE AND ACTUALLY WORKED LAST THIS PAST SEASON, BUT TO YOUR POINT.

TRUSTEE. WESTON IS, IS THAT SO THEY HAVE TO INSTEAD OF SPENDING THEIR TIME LIKE PUTTING THESE ROBOTS TOGETHER, PROGRAMING THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEM, LIKE GIVE THEM DIFFERENT TASKS, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO ASK THEM TO DO A VARIETY OF THINGS.

SO STUDENTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SHARING SPACE OR SHARING WITH OTHER, THEY HAVE TO PICK THOSE ROBOTICS UP, PICK THOSE TABLES AND SET UP, AND EVERY TIME AND THEN THE OTHER, WHATEVER IT IS, THE NEXT TEAM OR THE NEXT GROUP WILL USE THE ROOM.

AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY HAVE SPENT TIME AGAIN SETTING UP.

SO IF WE GIVE THEM DEDICATED SPACE, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME BECAUSE THEIR ROBOTS WILL BE THERE, THEIR SETUP WILL BE ALWAYS THERE, AND THEN THEY'RE THERE.

THEY SPEND THEIR TIME AND PROGRAMING AND CODING IN, IN LIKE BUILDING THESE ROBOTS AND THEN PRACTICING WITH THAT STUFF.

SO IT WILL BE ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR OUR STUDENTS.

LIKE EFFICIENT LIKE FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, SPENDING TIME ON THAT INSTEAD OF SO YOU SAY IT'S DR.

NICHOLS. SOMETHING TO ADD AND TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER AS FAR AS TALKING ABOUT JUST WESTWOOD.

THIS IS UP AND COMING IN OUR IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS AND EVERYONE IS AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE PUT A LOT INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE DEVELOP WHAT THE PROGRAMING LOOKS LIKE AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND ALSO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

SO MORE AND MORE, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A SWELL COMING UP FROM ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE INTO OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

SO PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR WHAT THAT IS LOOKING LIKE, AND NOT JUST FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND JUST FOR OUR.

MAYBE THIS WILL HELP. I KNOW WHEN I POST FOR ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS IN ACTION, THIS ACTUALLY THIS SATURDAY AFTER BACK-TO-BACK TO SCHOOL

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WE ARE HAVING, WE ARE HOSTING A ROBOTICS EVENT ACTUALLY AT MCNEIL'S IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO IF YOU HAVE TIME, OUR BOARD.

PLEASE STOP BY SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THIS IN ACTION AND YOU CAN MAYBE MAKE SENSE TO YOU, TOO, BUT IT'S THIS, THIS SATURDAY AFTER TWO, I THINK IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER IT'S ON THE TRUSTEES CALENDAR. YEAH.

YEAH. SO AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SO IDEALLY THEY DON'T THEY CAN BUILD THEIR ROBOTS AND THEY'RE RIGHT, AND THEN THEY CAN LEAVE THEM OVERNIGHT FOR DAYS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PACK THEM UP.

YOU COULD CORRECT A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE INEFFICIENCIES THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO SET UP THE COURSE AND TAKE EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED SPACE FOR IT RIGHT NOW. WHILE THEY CAN DESIGN THEM IN THE CLASSROOM, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO IN THE COMPETITION IS CHALLENGES RIGHT ON THE FIELDS, AND THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HARRISON, FOR KIND OF CLEARING UP THE LOGISTICS OF IT.

IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BASKETBALL COURT, AND SO A LOT OF THEIR TIME RIGHT NOW IS SPENT SETTING UP, YOU KNOW, CLEARING EVERYTHING AWAY, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE AT THE END OF THE PRACTICE OR AT THE END OF THE COMPETITION, TAKING EVERYTHING BACK DOWN, AND SO IT WOULD BE A SPACE.

IF THEY HAD A SPACE THEY WOULD NOT DECONSTRUCT.

CORRECT? IT WOULD.

JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT TOO, IS THAT THE TEAMS THAT I TALKED TO, THEY WOULD DESIGN THE SPACE AND THEN THEY WOULD SHOW UP TO THEIR COMPETITIONS EARLIER THAN THEIR COMPETITORS SO THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY PRACTICE THEIR DESIGN ON THE COURSE, BUT SOMETIMES IT WOULD BE THEIR FIRST TIME PRACTICING IT BECAUSE THEY HAD NO OTHER SPACE TO DO IT BEFOREHAND.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ALSO.

IMAGINE PACKING UP A FAMILY OF FOUR EVERY TIME YOU WANTED TO DO ROBOTICS.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE PACKING THAT MUCH LUGGAGE AND THAT MANY PEOPLE, AND I WANT OUR BOARD.

WE'VE PROBABLY SOME OF YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE, THERE ARE SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO HAVE A DEDICATED SPACE.

OUR NEIGHBOR LEANDER, HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL FACILITY DEDICATED TO ROBOTICS.

SO WE WON'T BE LIKE THE FIRST DISTRICT TO HAVE DEDICATED, BUT I THINK OUR, OUR STUDENTS AND OUR PARENTS AND, AND OUR TEACHERS ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH, WITH VERY LITTLE RESOURCES.

IMAGINE IF WE GIVE THEM THE SPACE.

NOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SKY IS THE LIMIT IF WE MAKE IT.

SO THEY HAVE IT'S A IT'S A STANDALONE FACILITY.

YES, AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY.

IF YOU WANT. WE CAN GO ON. WELL I KNOW I BELIEVE YOU SO AND THAT'S ALL THAT FACILITY DOES IS JUST HOUSE THEIR ROBOTICS PROGRAMS. THE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF THE BECAUSE IT'S A BIG BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE A DEDICATED IN THAT BUILDING DEDICATED SPACE FOR ROBOTICS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OKAY SO I TOURED THE FACILITY.

IT'S JUST ROBOTICS OKAY.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, THIS PROJECT IS REALLY NOT POSSIBLE AS SCOPED AT SIX POINT WHATEVER.

BECAUSE THAT'S JUST TO RENOVATE PART OF THE EXISTING, AND IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.

IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT THEY NEED.

STILL HALF COURT, RIGHT? SO WELL, CAN I ASK THEN, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCOPE AND MAYBE IF THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER THINGS ON THIS, ON THIS LIST, I'M WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THAT, BUT LIKE I'M LOOKING AT A MAP OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I SEE THAT NEAR WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, WE'VE GOT SOME ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL, I DON'T KNOW, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO UTILIZING SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE SPACE OR RENOVATING SOME SPACE AT ANOTHER FACILITY THAT WE HAVE NEAR WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL? SO. SO WHAT I WOULD WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS CLOSE OUT THIS ITEM OF BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE, KIND OF LIKE THE GRISHAM DANCE.

IT HAD TO BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

SO THIS ITEM I FEEL LIKE IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE BE ELIMINATED FROM THE LIST AND THE TOTAL RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE CAN GO ON AND TALK ABOUT MAYBE EVEN 13 AND 14 IN THE SAME TIME.

AND THAT WILL GIVE US SOME OTHER OPTIONS TO TALK ABOUT CTE FLEX SPACES, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GRIMES BUILDING FOR ROBOTICS SPACE. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT ONE? OKAY, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 13 AND 14, AND I HESITATE TO PUT THEM IN TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS BUT SOME SIMILAR USES FOR THEM, AND THANK YOU, DR.

OLDHAM. THERE I HAVE NOT SAID THANK YOU ENOUGH TONIGHT.

THERE'S BEEN SO MANY STAFF THAT HAVE COME IN AND OUT HERE.

SO JUST A BLANKET. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FROM STAFF THAT'S HERE TO ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT.

I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRIMES BUILDING IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO ABOUT THE USE AND HOW THEY'RE COMBINED.

SO I'LL INTRODUCE ITEMS D 13 AND D 14, AND WE CAN DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS, AND TRUSTEE WEIR IS QUICK ON THE TRIGGER.

GO AHEAD. I WILL START WITH YOU.

WELL, FIRST, I DID WANT TO RESPOND TO TRUSTEE MARKHAM'S QUESTION ABOUT GOING OVER TO THE EAST SIDE FROM WESTWOOD.

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IT'S JUST TOO LONG AND THEY WON'T.

THEY JUST WON'T DO IT.

THEY REALLY DO HAVE TO HAVE IT ON BOTH SIDES FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE ALLOWED TO SAY ABOUT 13.

SO YOU HAVE LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS $125 MILLION BUILDING.

OKAY, AND WHETHER THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM WERE TO HAPPEN OR NOT, LET'S TALK INDEPENDENT OF THAT.

DO WE WANT A STANDALONE $125 MILLION CTE FACILITY? THAT'S WHAT ITEM 13 IS ABOUT.

SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT OTHER THIS SAYS OPTIONS.

I CAN GO FIRST BECAUSE I CAN I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO IT.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF A STANDALONE $124 MILLION CTE FACILITY.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR THAT.

I FEEL LIKE OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AREN'T GOING TO BE GROWING OVER TIME THE WAY WE THINK THEY ARE, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO CREATE SPACE FOR DISTRICT WIDE CTE, SOME OF WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION PROGRAMMATICALLY.

IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO FIGURE WHAT THE PROGRAMS ARE, AND I RESPECT THAT.

THIS IS MY FORMER BOSS'S BOSS SITTING IN FRONT OF ME.

SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT CTE.

I JUST THINK THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SCALABLE WAY TO DO IT, AND WE WILL DISCUSS MORE IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT I AM A LITTLE INTERESTED TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES, AND YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITY THOUGHTS ARE FOR WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS VENTURE.

YOU WANT TO HEAR LIKE A VISION FOR IT.

I'M GOING TO LET HER. I'M GONNA LET YOUR BOSS OR FORMER STAFFERS OF A SECOND GO AHEAD AND START BECAUSE SHE REALLY HAS GREAT IDEAS.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, AND GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES AND DR.

AZAIEZ. MY NAME IS SHERRY BONDS.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION FOR THE DISTRICT, AND YES, I DID GET TO WORK WITH TIFFANIE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR WORKFORCE LOOKS LIKE WITHIN CENTRAL TEXAS, BUT ALSO THE LARGER REGION, REALLY TEXAS HAS SEEN A BOOM.

OUR ECONOMY. YES.

WHILE WE ARE ALL FEELING GROCERIES AT THE GROCERY STORE.

KEEP GOING UP. OUR ECONOMY REALLY HASN'T SLOWED DOWN, AND ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE REALLY SEE THAT IS IN THE TRADES, A LOT OF GROWTH WITHIN CONSTRUCTION, NOT ONLY RESIDENTIAL BUT COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S REALLY AN AREA WITHIN OUR DISTRICT THAT WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY HITTING.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WE SEE GROWTH ACROSS THE STATE, AND I GUESS I SHOULD BACK UP JUST A SECOND.

THE STATE, ACTUALLY, THROUGH THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY, EITHER ALLOWS US TO OFFER CERTAIN PROGRAMS OF STUDY THROUGH FOUR YEAR SEQUENCES OF COURSES OR NOT. SO IF THEY'RE NOT APPROVED BY THE STATE, WE'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO OFFER THEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET FULL FUNDING IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THE STATE DOES A LOT OF WORK TO LOOK AT HIGH SKILL, HIGH WAGE IN DEMAND CAREERS AS WELL AS WE WORK WITH OUR DIFFERENT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARDS.

SO ALL THAT TO SAY, TRADES IS HUGE.

THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT'S GOING AROUND, BUT THEN ALSO THERE ARE DIFFERENT SECTORS LIKE AUTOMOTIVE BODY REPAIR.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

WE HAVE AUTOMOTIVE MAINTENANCE AND LIGHT REPAIR.

SO THINKING ABOUT YOUR BRAKES AND OIL CHANGES, ENGINE TUNE UPS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT AUTO BODY AND COLLISION IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE, AND OF COURSE, IF ANYBODY LIVED THROUGH THE HAILSTORMS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN WAITING IN LINE TO GET THAT WORK DONE.

SO THINKING ABOUT THOSE SECTORS, BUT ALSO A DIFFERENT ONE THAT WE DO NOT CURRENTLY OFFER IS COSMETOLOGY, AND WHILE SOME FOLKS MIGHT THINK OF THEIR ENCOUNTERS, AND NO OFFENSE TO THE GENTLEMAN BESIDE ME, BUT I'M GUESSING YOU PROBABLY PAID ABOUT $25, MAYBE 30 FOR A HAIRCUT.

LADIES, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COSTLY, AND SO WHEN WE REALLY THINK ABOUT CAREERS WHERE STUDENTS CAN GET INTO A FIELD THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, DOING A FOUR YEAR SEQUENCE OF COURSES WHERE WE CAN SUPPORT THEM, HAVE STAFF ON SITE, THAT REALLY IS A GREAT HIGH EARNING WAGE CAREER.

IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE REPORTED AS SUCH BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT NOT ALL WAGES, ESPECIALLY IN CASH TIPPING.

SO AGAIN, I KNOW WHAT I PAY FOR THIS MAINTENANCE, AND DON'T LOOK AT IT TOO CLOSELY.

IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE, BUT THEN ALSO SECTORS THAT ARE STILL GROWING IN OUR AREA.

WE DO OFFER CURRENT CULINARY ARTS CURRENTLY ACROSS SOME OF OUR DISTRICT CAMPUSES.

IT'S ONLY AT TWO. THEY'RE VERY FULL, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES LIKE KALAHARI AND ALL OF THE HOSPITALITY THAT IS COMING INTO THE AREA THROUGH KALAHARI AND THEN OTHER DOWNTOWN HOTELS, THOSE ARE SECTORS THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE DEMAND FROM OUR STUDENTS.

TWO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR US TO PURSUE WOULD BE AN EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER IN WORKING WITH OUR PRE-K, THREE AND FOUR PARTNERS HERE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT ALSO IN TALKING TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS HINDERING THEM IN BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE BUSINESSES INTO OUR AREA IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CHILDCARE FOR STUDENTS OR FOR CHILDREN OF

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I'M SURE MR. CURRAN WOULD TELL YOU THAT COULD BE A BIG DRAW TO HAVE MORE DAYCARE FACILITIES FOR OUR OWN STAFF.

DENTAL ASSISTANT IS ALSO ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T OFFER THAT HAS A HIGH WAGE AND IN DEMAND NEED.

DENTAL ASSISTANT IS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AT THE DENTAL OFFICE.

THEY MAY HELP YOU DO A FEW LITTLE THINGS.

THE HYGIENIST IS REALLY THE ONE THAT'S GETTING INTO YOUR TEETH BEFORE THE DENTIST CHECKS YOU OUT, BUT JUST SOME CONTEXT FOR THAT.

A DENTAL ASSISTANT IS SOMETHING THAT'S AN IBC.

WE COULD OFFER THAT OR INDUSTRY BASED CERTIFICATION.

WE COULD OFFER THAT THROUGH PROGRAMING, BUT AFTER STUDENTS EARN AN ASSOCIATE'S, THEY CAN BECOME A DENTAL HYGIENIST.

I KNOW A DENTIST IN HUTTO WHO PAYS HIS HYGIENIST NEARLY $100,000.

SO WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE REALLY GETTING OUT THERE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND I KNOW I'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND YOU'RE THINKING, SHERRY, THIS IS A LOT OF RAMBLING.

IT'S REALLY NOT. IT'S THINKING ABOUT HOW TO PUT ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO WHERE THEY MAKE SENSE NOT ONLY FOR OUR STUDENTS TO LEARN, BECAUSE THESE ARE LARGE TARGET AREAS THAT EITHER WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE OR WE NEED TO EXPAND, LIKE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND CULINARY ARTS, BUT THINKING ABOUT HOW WE AS A DISTRICT WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.

SO, IF THERE WERE SPACES, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE WE COULD BRING PROGRAMS TOGETHER RIGHT NOW, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH OUR FIT FAMILIES AND TRANSITION.

THEY SERVICE OUR STUDENTS GOING THROUGH HOMELESSNESS.

ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT FIT PROGRAMS IS OUR FAMILIES ARE COMING IN.

THEY'RE GATHERING THOSE MATERIALS ALL, ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.

RIGHT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS THAT MIGHT NOT BE MET, LIKE UNDERSTANDING HOW TO YOU KNOW, FILL OUT PAPERWORK FOR THE COMMUNITY OR JUST TIMES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND GET SOME INSTRUCTION, AND WHO DO THEY USUALLY HAVE WITH THEM? THEIR CHILDREN. SO IF OUR FIT PROGRAMS WERE COUPLED, WHERE OUR CHILDCARE CENTERS WERE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE RUNNING, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP AND FACILITATE AND TAKE THAT AWAY SO THE PARENTS CAN ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THAT.

COSMETOLOGY PROGRAMS. HISTORICALLY, IT'S VERY HARD WITHIN THE SCHOOL DAY.

YOU KNOW, OUR HOUR EIGHT, 9:00 TO 4:00 BELLS FOR COSMETOLOGY PROGRAMS IN THE STATE TO GET ENOUGH HOURS.

SO OUR STUDENTS THAT HAVE THESE PROGRAMS IN OTHER DISTRICTS ARE HAVING TO CREATE EVENING OR WEEKEND HOURS TO CUT HAIR, TO GET THEIR HOURS FOR COSMETOLOGY.

SO IF YOU CAN COUPLE FIT WITH CHILDCARE, WITH COSMETOLOGY POTENTIALLY AT A SHARED LOCATION, OUR HOME HOMELESS FAMILIES REALLY COULD BE SERVICED BY HAVING CHILDCARE, BEING ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON INFORMATION WHILE OUR STUDENTS IN COSMETOLOGY GETTING THEIR HAIR CUT.

WE CAN KEEP ON GOING AND GOING WITH CULINARY ARTS, BEING ABLE TO HOST EVENTS.

IF IT WAS A SHARED SPACE WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE RESTAURANTS EVEN SERVE EMPLOYEES, THAT MIGHT BE AT A SHARED SPACE.

SO THERE'S SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS, AND I COULD KEEP GOING, AND I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT, BUT I'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT.

SO HOW ABOUT IF YOU ADD THE 18 PLUS PROGRAM TO THAT, THAT SAME THING.

WHAT HOW THAT WILL YOU SEE THAT WE COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING OUR 18 PLUS STUDENTS INTO OUR INSTRUCTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

MAY NOT BE DURING THE EXACT SAME TIMES AS OUR STUDENTS, BUT USING THOSE FACILITIES FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TRADES OR GETTING INTO A KITCHEN AND STARTING TO SEE THOSE FACILITIES AND BECOMING MORE COMFORTABLE IN THERE ALONG.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE 18 PLUS PROGRAM IS? MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

YEAH, OKAY, I SAY I HAVE NATALIE, IF YOU'D LIKE.

JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WATCHING.

THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AS A PUBLIC INSTITUTION IS THAT WE SERVE ALL STUDENTS, AND WITHIN OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, OFTENTIMES, MOST OF OUR STUDENTS IN GENERAL EDUCATION WILL GRADUATE WHEN THEY'RE 18, BUT BY LAW, WE'RE OFFER WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER MORE SERVICES TO OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE SERVED UNDER SPECIAL EDUCATION, WHO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL, WHO ARE DIFFERENTLY ABLED, AND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GO MUCH LONGER, AND SO THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER IS NOT JUST TEACHING THEM WORKFORCE SKILLS, BUT ALSO HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES SO IT CAN BE SOMETHING AS FAR AS WASHING CLOTHES, TAKING CARE OF OTHERS, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO BE WITH US TO HAVE EXTENDED TIME TO LEARN CERTAIN THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND LEARN DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO, AS SHERRI IS TALKING ABOUT, IS HOW DO WE PROVIDE A SPACE WHERE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, THAT THEY CAN LEARN WITHIN THAT SPACE, AND ALSO INTERACT WITH OTHERS?

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SO WE WANT THEM TO BE WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE DIFFERENTLY ABLED SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND LEARN TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND GO OUT INTO THE WORLD.

SO WE ALSO SEE THAT AS A PRIME WAY FOR THEM TO INTERACT WITH OUR STUDENTS UNDER DIFFERENT CTE PROGRAMS AND FOR THEM TO BUILD ON THEIR SKILLS. YES.

SO AND THAT GOES UNTIL AGE 22.

CORRECT? YEAH, I KNEW THAT.

I KNEW WHAT 18 PLUS WAS, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT, WELL, WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO 18 PLUS DID NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND, AND, AND A GOOD WAY TO, TO EXPLAIN HOW THOSE PROGRAMS WOULD WORK TOGETHER.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A COSMETOLOGY PROGRAM, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO WALK INTO A SALON AND REQUEST THOSE SERVICES, OR MAYBE EVEN SEE WHAT CAREERS IN THAT SALON MIGHT WORK MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

SAME AS AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED TO WALK IN AND BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND OR ASSIST FAMILY MEMBERS WITH GETTING OIL CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BEING ABLE TO INTERACT WITH IT AND BE COMFORTABLE SO THAT WHEN THEY GO INTO THOSE SETTINGS WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS OR WITH OTHER CAREGIVERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, THEN THEY'RE NOT TAKEN ABACK FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY WEAVING IN ENTREPRENEURSHIP INTO IT.

SO OUR STUDENTS OPERATING SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN PROGRAMS IN OUR AREA, BUT EVEN ACROSS THE STATE THAT DO THIS REALLY WELL.

SO BRINGING IN MORE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO OUTSIDE ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT A COSMETOLOGY SHOP GOING, I MIGHT GET A TRIM A LITTLE MORE OFTEN. SO BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO BRING THAT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR STUDENTS TO SEE THEMSELVES AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR TAKING THOSE RISKS, AND SO WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO THINK LOOK AT ANY OF THESE CAREER OPTIONS AND SAY, WELL, YOU'LL JUST HAVE THIS ONE ROLE FOREVER.

WELL, YOU MIGHT GET INTO BEING AN ELECTRICIAN AND ONE DAY DECIDE TO START YOUR OWN BUSINESS, AND SO WE WANT TO HELP THAT WITH STUDENTS AND REALLY BEEF UP OUR ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAM. I JUST WANT TO ADD TO GREAT JOB.

THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS LIKE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY ANY PROGRAMS FROM ANY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, RIGHT? THIS IS ONLY EXPANDING AND EXPANDING BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE SPACE ANY LONGER IN A PARTICULAR HIGH SCHOOL OR WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

RIGHT. SO THIS WILL ALLOW LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT CULINARY, WE ONLY HAVE IT AT TWO CAMPUSES, WHICH IS ROANOKE HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND CEDAR RIDGE.

WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING AT WESTWOOD OR THE WESTWOOD OR MCNEIL.

SO THIS POTENTIALLY COULD OFFER OPTIONS FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

RIGHT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO AGAIN, ADDING LIKE NEW PROGRAMS OR EXPANDED PROGRAMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPACE TO ADD THEM AT THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS SUPER ROBUST AND VERY CONVINCING, AND YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN OF CTE, SO IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING TO PEOPLE TO HEAR ME SAY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO INVEST $123 MILLION IN A STANDALONE FACILITY, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE NEED OUR COMMUNITY'S BUY IN.

WE NEED PROOF OF CONCEPT FOR TRADES.

WE KNOW, BUT DOES OUR COMMUNITY KNOW? SO MY SECOND QUESTION IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE CAN GET THIS DONE IN AN ALTERNATIVE WAY, IS RIGHT NOW THIS IS SCOPED FOR 123,000FT SQUARE FEET, AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A PIE IN THE SKY QUESTION, BUT LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REDUCED NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULD STILL BE VERY USABLE AND VALUABLE.

SO, WHEN I THINK WHEN THE HPM TEAM BROUGHT THAT 123,000FT², THAT WAS A COMPLETE STANDALONE BUILDING.

RIGHT, AND SO THAT'S HAVING ALL OF THE ANCILLARIES, SOME SORT OF A MINI GYM MIGHT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.

THOSE ARE IN SOME OF THE SPACES THAT I'VE SEEN BEFORE, CAFETERIAS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO WE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THESE SPACES MIGHT BE, AND OF COURSE, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE IN OUR ED SPECS, RIGHT? WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE DENTAL ASSISTING PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING A MAXIMUM OF 49,000FT².

WE WOULD DEFINITELY FEEL IF WE PAIRED SOME THINGS DOWN AND WERE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THAT, THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS, BUT THAT WAS A NUMBER THAT WE'VE BALLPARKED, BUT OF COURSE, I HAVE ASKED HIM TO GIVE ME SOME BETTER ESTIMATES ON WHAT WE'VE GOT.

OKAY. I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NEXT TIME, BUT THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD AND EXCITING AND DOABLE TO ME, AND I JUST HAVE TO NOTE THAT OVER A YEAR AGO, I PAID $450 FOR A 19 YEAR OLD BRAIDER TO BRAID MY HAIR, AND SHE LEARNED AND BECAME A COSMETOLOGIST AT LEANDER ISD, AND I WAS PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS RIPE, AND I HOPE WE CAN CAPITALIZE IT ON SOME WAY.

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RIGHT, AND OUR VOTER SUPPORT, IF THAT HAPPENS, CAN WE ALSO JUST ADD ONE OTHER PIECE OF CONTEXT TO THIS? OFTENTIMES PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY MIGHT SEE THAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE CREATING STANDALONES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF PROGRAMING AT THE INDIVIDUAL HIGH SCHOOLS.

AND SO WHEN THIS RECOMMENDATION IS BEING MADE, THE IMPORTANT CONTEXT TO KNOW IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BUILT OUT AND REALLY PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES INTO INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES FOR SO LONG, THAT WHAT IS BEING SAID IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A STANDALONE BECAUSE OF HOW WELL WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR INDIVIDUAL HIGH SCHOOLS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS FULLY UNDERSTAND AS WELL, AND THERE'S NOT THIS THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING.

AS FAR AS THE TRADES OR ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S A REASON THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT A STANDALONE IS NOT NECESSARY FOR OUR SPECIFIC CONTEXT, AND THEN ALSO, SHERRY, CAN YOU ADD SOME MORE INFORMATION IN REGARD TO REGIONAL INFORMATION AND HIGH WAGE AND HIGH GROWTH, AND WHY SPECIFICALLY YOU RECOMMENDED THOSE PROGRAMS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE DATA WITHIN TEXAS, IT'S ALL DIVIDED UP BY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARDS WITHIN OUR AREA, AND WE KNOW OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT SPANS TWO COUNTIES, RIGHT, WILLIAMSON AND TRAVIS COUNTY.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARDS.

SO TRAVIS COUNTY IS THE CAPITAL AREA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD SOLELY? ALL OF THEIR NUMBERS ARE JUST FROM TRAVIS COUNTY.

WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS IN RURAL CAPITAL.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT TRAVIS BEING THE DONUT HOLE RURAL CAPITAL, IS THE DONUT AROUND.

SO IT'S THOSE SEVERAL COUNTIES THAT CIRCLE AROUND TRAVIS.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT LABOR MARKET DATA, WE'RE ACTUALLY PULLING LABOR MARKET DATA FOR TRAVIS AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, AND JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE TEN YEAR JOB PROJECTION GROWTHS IN CONSTRUCTION TRADES, MEDIAN WAGE OF $72,000 AND A POTENTIAL FOR BETWEEN BOTH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARDS, 11,000 OPENINGS.

I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION IN THE REGION THAT'S GROWING A HIGH NEED, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CHAMBER HAS TOLD US THAT THEY REALLY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING.

THESE, THESE TRADES FOLKS, FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE EXISTING HERE, THE ONES THAT ARE GROWING AND JUST TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND, AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE EXAMPLES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 7600 JOBS OPEN OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

THAT WAGE SHOWS A A MEDIAN OF 47,000, BUT WHEN YOU REALLY START TALKING WITH SOME OF THE LARGER DEALERS HERE, WE HAVE WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE MAKING CLOSER TO $100,000, AND THEY'RE WORKING IN AIR CONDITIONED, HEATED AND COOLED, YOU KNOW, SHOPS.

THE LAST TIME MAYBE YOU TOOK YOUR VEHICLE TO AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR.

THEY HAD THE AUTOMATIC DOOR THAT CAME UP AND CAME RIGHT DOWN, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S AIR CONDITIONED.

INSIDE. THE AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP I WORKED IN HIGH SCHOOL WAS NOT AIR CONDITIONED.

IT WAS RATHER HOT. SO JUST LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH ALL THE WAY UP TO JUST THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN THESE AREAS.

AND AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO TEACH OR START WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEY DO HAVE TO MEET HIGH SKILL, HIGH WAGE AND IN DEMAND.

SO, WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALLOWING STUDENTS TO SEE ALL OF THEIR OPPORTUNITIES, AND REALLY GIVING THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND I DO HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OF LIGHTS ON, BUT I DID I CLEARED THIS WITH LEGAL TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT THAT THERE IS AN ITEM ON CLOSED SESSION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT COULD MEET THE NEEDS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I CAN'T SAY A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT ITEM ENCLOSED DOES MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR CTE, OR COULD POSSIBLY MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR CTE AND POSSIBLY ROBOTICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO AM I OKAY WITH THAT STATEMENT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IF THAT HELPS PUT ANY CONTEXT IN, IF ANYBODY SAYS I'M PERHAPS NOT A $123 MILLION STANDALONE FACILITY BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER OPTIONS IN CLOSED SESSION THAT WE CAN'T FULLY DISCLOSE TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT.

TRUSTEE. MARKUM. THANK YOU.

I JUST I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID.

YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S SCOPED HERE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THAT.

I SEE A LOT OF VALUE IN SHARED SPACES.

I APPRECIATE THE VISION FOR 18 PLUS.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD ASKED ABOUT AS FAR AS COMBINING IT WITH CTE SPACE, IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THAT.

THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR 18 PLUS STUDENTS WITHIN THAT ENVIRONMENT.

SO I JUST I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VISION.

MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, BUT PART OF BRINGING THESE TRADES IN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT WHICH PROGRAMS ARE

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THAT'S BEEN GREAT. THANK YOU, BUT SOME OF THESE TRADES ARE ARE A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE WANTING TO GO THAT ROUTE GOING OUT OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT, LIKE, ARE THEY LEAVING CAMPUS, GOING OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT TO THIRD PARTY ENTITIES TO APPRENTICESHIP OR WHATEVER TO GET THEIR LICENSE AND WHATEVER THAT TRADE MAY BE OR TO GET THE COURSES THEY NEED, AND BRINGING THIS INTERNAL WOULD ALLOW THEM TO WORK WITHIN OUR SCHEDULES AND ALSO BRING EQUITY AROUND THOSE PROGRAMS. AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION, GETTING THERE, THE COST OF GOING THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SURE. IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OUR STUDENTS GET A JUMP START ON IT.

SO RATHER THAN WAITING TO ENTER A DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, IT'S GOING TO SAY DOD, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING DEFENSE DOL DEPARTMENT OF LABOR REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP. WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THOSE STARTED IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A PLUMBER OR ELECTRICIAN AND STARTING TO BECOME AN APPRENTICE AND THEN A JOURNEYMAN, AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET ALL OF THE LEVELS WRONG, BUT IT TAKES TIME, AND SO IF WE CAN GET THOSE STUDENTS ON TRACK EARLIER AND GET THEIR HOURS, AND THEN ALSO HELP WITH USING OUR CTE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THOSE FEES, AND THEN ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION REIMBURSEMENT.

IT'S ALL JUST WONDERFUL WAYS TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS THAT KNOW THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO, BUT THEN ALSO WE HAVE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, AUTOMOTIVE IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS AT MOST OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

ARE ALL OF THE STUDENTS GOING TO BECOME TECHNICIANS? NO, THEY'RE NOT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BETTER CONSUMERS, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR VEHICLE, HOW TO ENGAGE MORE WHEN THEY NEED TO GO INTO THE REPAIR SHOP, AND SO WE SEE THE SAME THING WITH OUR TRADES, THE STUDENTS WHO ARE REALLY GOING TO JUMP INTO IT WILL AND OTHERS, THEY MIGHT GO THROUGH THE FOUR YEAR SEQUENCE AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I LEARNED SO MUCH, BUT I ALSO LEARNED THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT FOR ME.

IT HAPPENS WITH HEALTH SCIENCE EVERY DAY IN OUR PROGRAMS. SO BEING ABLE TO HELP THOSE STUDENTS BECOME BETTER CONSUMERS, BETTER UNDERSTANDERS OF THE TRADE INDUSTRY, BUT THEN ALSO THOSE WHO WILL GO INTO THOSE, IT'LL JUST BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THEM, SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE LATE IN THEIR 20S BEFORE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER ALONG IN THEIR CAREER.

IF I MAY ADD TO WHAT JERRY IS SAYING IS I KNOW THAT.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE SOME STUDENTS ACTUALLY WILL START DOING THAT, LIKE WHILE THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL ON THEIR OWN, LIKE YOU SAID, BUT OFTENTIMES WHAT WE SEE IS THE GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AT 18, AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? OH, I WANT TO BECOME A MECHANIC, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT COSTS THEM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OR TENS.

IT DEPENDS WHAT, WHAT WHICH ONE? RIGHT. I END UP GOING TO OCC TO BECOME LIKE A WELDER OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, AND IT TAKES SOME TIME AND MONEY AND EVEN DEBTS FOR IT, BUT IF YOU DO IT WITH US, THEN AT 18 THEY CAN IF THEY WANT, THEY CAN START THEIR CAREER RIGHT AWAY.

THE OTHER THING IS LIKE I THINK WE HAVE TO EDUCATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OUR FAMILIES.

IS THAT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH A PROGRAM LIKE THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COLLEGE.

YOU CAN HAVE BOTH.

YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS.

RIGHT? YOU COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE THAT LICENSE TO BE A DENTAL HYGIENE OR DENTAL ASSISTANT FIRST AND THEN DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT TO BE A DENTIST NOW AND YOU CAN GO INTO DENTISTRY, RIGHT.

AND BECOME A DENTIST. SO THERE IS NO LIMIT.

WE'RE NOT LIMITING OURSELVES.

ACTUALLY. WE ARE GIVEN A MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MULTIPLE SOMETIMES OPPORTUNITIES AT THE SAME TIME IF THEY WANT TO.

SO THEY CAN HAVE COLLEGE AND THIS AND MANY OTHER THINGS IF THEY WANT TO.

THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON THIS RIGHT NOW? BUT THIS ALSO COVERS THE GRIMES FACILITY, THIS DISCUSSION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? TRUSTEE. WEIR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS 8 MILLION, STILL ALSO WE HAD 8 MILLION, AND I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ANSWERED, WE HAD 8 MILLION, AND THE 2018 BOND, WE'VE USED ABOUT FIVE OF IT.

SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING IF WE GAVE THIS 8 MILLION, IT'S LIKE 11.1 TO REALLY REDO THIS BUILDING IN THE WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, AND I THINK THE QUESTION AT THE LAST MEETING WAS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING? AND THE RESPONSE WAS, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE YET.

DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATION IN CLOSE, WE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE KNOW IT WILL BE PART OF OUR DISTRIBUTION FOREST WAREHOUSING, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING IS STILL UNDETERMINED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU.

I'M SORRY. NO, I'LL JUST SAY THERE'S A VERY LENGTHY EXPLANATION IN THE QUESTIONS.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO AND LOOK AT IT, TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR THE GRIMES BUILDING IN THE 2018 BOND, AS WELL AS THE 750,000 ALLOCATED AT MCNEIL FOR THEIR ROTC BUILDING.

AND SOME OF THAT MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

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SO, OKAY, SO THE AMANDA AND DAVID, IF YOU CAN, PLEASE DAVID CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE INITIALLY THE ASK WAS FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT.

MY UNDERSTANDING BACK IN 2018, BUT THAT AMOUNT WAS CUT AND WAS CUT BY ALMOST HALF, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE I THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE NOW, BUT LET ME I THINK I THINK I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST, DAVID, AND THEN SO WE ALMOST WENT THROUGH THIS SAME PROCESS BACK IN 2018, AND THE INITIAL ASK WAS AROUND $16 MILLION, AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE SCALED BACK WE WENT FROM A $914 MILLION REQUEST TO A $508 MILLION REQUEST.

SO ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, AS WE SCALED BACK, WE AGREED TO ONLY DO A PORTION OF THE BUILDING IF WE HAD A SITE A AND A SIDE B TO THE BUILDING SITE A WHEN WE GOT STARTED, YOU HEARD SCOTT SAY SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH A BUNCH OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU GET IN THERE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO. WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DO A LOT MORE WORK ON THE BUILDING THAN WE HAD INITIALLY EXPECTED, AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN THE 2018 BOND.

WE STRUGGLED WITH ROUND ROCK PERMITTING, WE STRUGGLED WITH AN EASEMENT OVER THERE WITH OUR CELL TOWER THAT'S OVER THERE, AND IT CAUSED US TO NOT BE ABLE TO SPEND ALL OF THE MONEY.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY LEFT TO JUST CONTINUE GOING AND COMPLETE THE BUILDING OUT, AND ALONG THE WAY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON WHAT THE BUILDING MIGHT BE USED FOR.

INITIALLY, IT WAS GOING TO BE THE GROUNDS FACILITY WAS GOING TO MOVE FROM MCNEIL OVER TO THAT FACILITY SO THAT MCNEIL COULD HAVE THE CURRENT GROUNDS ANNEX THAT'S AT ON THEIR LOCATION, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO PUT DISTRIBUTION BECAUSE WE'RE LEASING, I THINK, 36,000FT² THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, FOR DISTRIBUTION, FOR STORAGE, AND SO WE WERE GOING TO GET ALL OF THAT MOVED IN THERE.

NOBODY'S MOVED IN THERE YET, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THAT BUILDING.

SO THE 8 MILLION THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR IS JUST WHAT WAS CUT OUT OF THE LAST BOND.

SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE WAREHOUSE WILL BE THE PRIORITY BECAUSE THAT WILL SAVE OUR DISTRICT MONEY, OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE LOSING ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S REALLY ONE THING HAS TO MOVE, AND THEN ALSO THE MCNEIL.

SO THAT CAN FREE UP THE SPACE FOR, FOR MCNEIL STUDENTS.

SO, OUR STUDENTS THERE ARE MCNEIL TOO.

SO THOSE TWO ARE MUST AND WILL BE PRIORITY A PRIORITY FOR US, BUT THEN WE HAVE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING AN A-SIDE, A ROBOTIC SPACE.

RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BE CLOSER TO STONY POINT, CLOSER TO CEDAR RIDGE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE WITH THE REST.

SO, THERE IS A VISION FOR IT, BUT WE NEEDED TO KNOW MORE, BUT YOUR VISION, WHAT CAN YOU WHAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH BEFORE WE ACTUALLY COMPLETE THE WHOLE PLAN. SO I DON'T HAVE A REAL GOOD CONCEPT OF THIS BUILDING.

I'M TOURING IT ON MONDAY, BUT HOW BIG IS THIS FACILITY? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS IT? THAT'S TOTAL SQUARE FEET.

HOW MUCH IS COMPLETED? HOW MUCH IS USABLE? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S AROUND 245,000FT².

THERE IS.

NOTHING IS COMPLETED.

WE HAVE.

WAIT, IS THAT WRONG? I THINK IT'S A LOT SMALLER THAN 200 AND SOME THOUSAND, BUT IT'S OKAY.

WE'RE FINE. OKAY.

THE NOTHING IS COMPLETED.

THE GROUNDS PORTION AND THE DISTRIBUTION PORTION ARE PROBABLY 90, 85, 90% COMPLETE.

SITE WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE, AND THEN THE B SIDE IS JUST VACANT.

IT'S PROBABLY HALF OF IT HAS BEEN.

HAD SOMETHING DONE TO IT.

BUT THE OTHER HALF IS JUST.

AVAILABLE, AND NOTHING'S BEEN DONE TO THE OUTSIDE.

RIGHT. THEY HAVE DONE SOME.

THEY FIXED SOME OF THE DOORS.

THEY FIXED THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING.

IT SHOULD BE WATERTIGHT.

WE HAD TO DO A COMPLETE REROOF THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EXPECTED AT THE BEGINNING, BUT WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DO A COMPLETE REROOF, BUT NONE OF THE SITE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. THE BUILDING IS NOT.

THE BUILDING IS NOT FINISHED.

IT'S NOT PRETTY.

NO, IT'S NOT FINISHED ON THE OUTSIDE.

NO, BUT THERE WERE SOME DOORS THAT WERE ADDED AND SOME DOORS THAT WERE REPAIRED SO THAT WE COULD SECURE THE BUILDING.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO WE'LL TALK MORE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS ITEM OR BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK AND TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LIGHTS ON IT RIGHT NOW.

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OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM D 15, AND I BELIEVE TRUSTEE MARKUM REQUESTED THIS TO BE ADDED FLEX SPACE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.

SO I'M GOING TO LET YOU INTRODUCE IT AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, AND IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS SPECS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THANKS. SO I'M GOING TO PREFACE THIS WITH SAYING THAT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE DONE ON THIS BOND.

SO MY POINT OF BRINGING THIS UP IS JUST TO BRING UP THE CONVERSATION, AND IF IT ENDS UP BEING A P2, P3 OR NOTHING AT ALL.

I WANTED THE CONVERSATION AND THE NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE SO THAT IT CAN BE CONSIDERED.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES ON BOND COMMITTEES WE MAYBE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCES TO THINK OF THESE THINGS, AND THE TYPE OF FLEX SPACES I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE SENSORY ROOMS OR ROOMS FOR ADAPTIVE PE, AND A LOT OF TIMES OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE LEADING THESE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CAMPUSES.

SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE ASK PRINCIPALS WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, THAT MAY NOT BE WHERE THEIR MIND GOES FIRST OFF, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT STAFF MEMBER IS HAS MULTIPLE CAMPUSES AND DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A HOME CAMPUS, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING THE NEED UP TO THE FOREFRONT, AND I, I HAD ASKED AS PART OF A LARGER CONVERSATION IF, IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO TALK TO DR.

TEASLEY ABOUT THE NEEDS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

OR MR. PORTILLO ABOUT THE NEEDS IN THE DISTRICT FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND IS THIS ONE OF THEM? BECAUSE I MAY BE COMPLETELY OFF AND THERE MAY BE NO NEED.

I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR SPECS, AND SENSORY LABS ARE PART OF OUR SPECS.

AS FAR AS BEING HAVING AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR LEARNERS, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL EMOTIONAL HEALTH AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS BASIC NEEDS ARE MET IN ORDER TO LEARN AT THEIR FULLEST CAPACITY.

AND SO FOR OUR STUDENTS WHO RECEIVE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES THE NEEDS THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED WITHIN A SENSORY ROOM ARE BASIC NEEDS FOR THEM.

SO IT WAS JUST THIS WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING UP TO SEE IF THERE WAS INTEREST FROM OTHER TRUSTEES IN PURSUING IT, IF WE HAD ANY MORE INFORMATION FROM ADMINISTRATION ON WHETHER YOU SEE A NEED FOR FOR THIS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS BOND CYCLE OR ANOTHER.

AGAIN, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO START THE CONVERSATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 1,000% SUPPORT FOR ME ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHAT TRUSTEE WEIR SAID EARLIER IS WE HAVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO WRAP THIS UP, BUT WE DO HAVE A FEW LINE ITEMS IN THE DISTRICT WIDE.

DISTRICT WIDE PROJECT AREAS ON CREATING FUNDS.

ONE IS A PORTABLE REFRESH FUND.

HERE IT IS. ONCE A DISTRICT WIDE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT FUND, ONCE A DISTRICT WIDE PORTABLE REFURBISH FUND, AND ONE IS A DISTRICT WIDE PROGRAMMATIC EQUIPMENT FUND.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE A WAY TO CREATE A FUND THAT WE COULD USE SPECIFICALLY FOR SENSORY AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EDUCATION TYPE SERVICES RATHER THAN LIKE DOING A FULL ACROSS THE BOARD ANALYSIS OF ALL CAMPUSES OF WHO NEEDS A SENSORY ROOM OR WHO NEEDS THIS OR ADD $1 MILLION LINE ITEM.

AND I'M JUST IT COULD BE $10,000.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FINANCIAL AMOUNT WOULD BE, AND MAYBE SOME FEEDBACK FROM ADMINISTRATION TO POSSIBLY CREATE A FUND LIKE THAT RATHER THAN SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

I DON'T KNOW THE BEST WAY TO ATTACK IT.

I THINK WITHOUT PROJECTS AND SCOPE, WE CAN'T REALLY EVEN DISCUSS IT ON THIS BOND UNLESS WE DO SOME KIND OF A FUND LIKE WE HAVE FOR THOSE THREE THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

SO THAT'S THE THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I SAW THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ADMINISTRATION HAS FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL, BUT.

WELL, AND I'LL JUST RESPOND TO THAT.

I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE SOMETIMES PROGRAMS MOVE FROM CAMPUS TO CAMPUS, ALTHOUGH THAT'S SOMETIMES PROGRAMS MOVE FROM CAMPUS TO CAMPUS.

EACH CAMPUS HAS UNIQUE NEEDS, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEEDS NOT BEING THE SAME AT EVERY CAMPUS, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO COME UP WITH, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM TOO. WHEN WE GO TO PRINCIPALS AND WE SAY, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS HERE? THOSE NEEDS COULD SHIFT FOR THEM FOR A YEAR FROM YEAR TO YEAR, BUT CREATING A FUND THAT THEY COULD DRAW FROM WHEN THE NEEDS ARE HIGH BECAUSE, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME CAMPUSES WITH EVERY PROGRAM ON THAT CAMPUS, EVERY SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM ON THAT CAMPUS, AND SOME DON'T HAVE ANY AT ALL.

SO I, I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO EXPLORE.

I WANT TO CHECK WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED IN THIS LIST WAS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE CREATE FUNDS? AND IT SAID THE RESPONSE WAS, YES, AS LONG AS IT'S WHAT DID IT SAY?

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AS LONG AS YOU DESIGNATE THE TYPE OF EXPENDITURES.

SO I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE TO JUST CHECK WITH LEGAL ON CREATING ANOTHER FUND AND WHAT LEGALLY IN TERMS OF BOND MONEY COULD BE CREATED FOR A FUND FUND ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I, I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO THAT.

THAT MAY HAVE BEEN FROM BEN.

SO LET ME DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION ON DISTRICT WIDE PROJECTS NUMBER FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, IT SAY $12 MILLION FOR JUST FUNDS AND NOT A SPECIFIC PROJECT, AND THAT WAS I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT DONE IN A BOND BEFORE, AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ANOTHER LINE ITEM OF FUND.

YES. MR. COVINGTON, I ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND DESIGNATING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS OKAY IN THE BAR LIGHT, DISTRICT WIDE PAVING. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PAY THAT.

WE JUST KNOW WE ARE PAVING.

SO YOU CAN DO DISTRICT WIDE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES ENHANCEMENT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE OR WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THEY ARE ALL SPECIAL EDUCATION ENHANCEMENTS.

OKAY, SO ANY OTHER TRUSTEES HAVE A FEEDBACK ON ADDING A LINE ITEM? I KNOW TRUSTEE WEIR WANTS TO ADD ADD ADD ADDING A LINE ITEM FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION ENHANCEMENTS AND PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? TRUSTEE ZÁRATE. WELL, I THINK WE KNOW THAT WE ALREADY ARE AT A DEFICIT WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING SPECIAL ED PROGRAMS, SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COSTS WERE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS COSTLY THAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST, AND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE TOO TERRIBLY TOO TERRIBLY STRESSFUL FOR TRUSTEE WEIR.

I THINK WHAT I WOULD NEED TRUSTEE MARKUM IS TO UNDERSTAND AT LEAST A GENERAL, A GENERAL SENSE OF HOW THE MONEY COULD BE USED, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I HAD I HAD POSED THE QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION AND AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S UP TO YOU ALL WHETHER OR NOT TO ADDRESS, BUT IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD TALK TO DR. TEASLEY OR MR. PORTILLO TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO SPECIAL EDUCATION AND KIND OF COME UP WITH A LIST TO SCOPE OUT, AND AGAIN, I, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THIS BOND, I BUT I WANTED TO BRING THE CONVERSATION TO THE FRONT BECAUSE I IT'S VERY HARD TO GET PARENTS WHO HAVE STUDENTS WHO RECEIVE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO GIVE, AND I KNOW WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO GIVE, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S VERY UNDERREPRESENTED OR UNDERREPRESENTED ON COMMITTEES.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR STANCE ON THAT IS IS VERY SUPPORTIVE.

WE AGREE TOTALLY.

WE ALREADY LIKE WE DID WE DID.

WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT STUFF AND SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES, CAMPUSES, NOT ALL OF THEM OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALLOCATING TO YOUR POINT, ALLOCATING FUNDS TOWARD MAYBE MAKING TRANSFORMING SOME ROOMS INTO THE SENSORY ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK, I THINK WILL BENEFIT OUR STUDENTS.

THEN WE JUST NEED TO KNOW, I GUESS WE NEED TO GET GET A GRIP ON HOW MANY, MAYBE CLASSROOMS OR SCHOOLS MAY BE IN NEED OF SUCH THING.

THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER NUMBER.

MAYBE SO.

OKAY, SO WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AND PERHAPS SOME HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE AUGUST 8TH BOARD MEETING.

DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? OKAY.

NEXT IS D 16.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? TRUSTEES? OKAY.

D 16 COVERED WALKWAYS.

AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS WAS TRUSTEE.

MARKUM. YEAH, THESE WERE AND MAYBE WE COULD GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHY THESE PARTICULAR CAMPUSES HAVE REQUESTED COVERED WALKWAYS. THE PARTICULAR SCHOOL I HAVE IN MIND, JUST FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, DID NOT REQUEST ONE, BUT I KNOW I HAD BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME THAT AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OUR PRE-K STUDENTS, OUR PRE-K STUDENTS, AND OUR STUDENTS WHO RECEIVE SPECIAL EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION USE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.

AND IT'S NOT IT'S A LONG SIDEWALK TO GET TO THE SCHOOL, AND THAT'S JUST WHERE THE BUSSES CAN BE CORRALLED AND WHERE IT'S SAFEST TO DROP OFF ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS, BUT IT'S NOT COVERED.

SO WE HAVE TEACHERS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH, AND THE DRAINAGE IS NOT GREAT RIGHT THERE EITHER.

SO WE HAVE STUDENTS RUNNING, TEACHERS AND STUDENTS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH UNDER UMBRELLAS, THROUGH THE WATER, THROUGH THE MUD, TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A POPULATION OF STUDENTS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS IF THEIR CLOTHING GETS WET.

SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THESE PARTICULAR SCHOOLS REQUESTED IT.

I KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS BE ADDED, BUT SOMETHING AND I'M NOT FOR TRUSTEE WEIR SAKE, I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, AND THEY'RE ALSO VERY SMALL PROJECTS THAT IF IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN FOR OUR STUDENTS AND WE'RE PRIORITIZING STUDENTS IN THIS BOND, I WOULD LIKE TO

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SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT THEY'RE BOTH FAIRLY I MEAN THEY'RE REASONABLY PRICED OTHER THAN FOREST NORTH WHO WANTS AN ENCLOSED ONE, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THEY WANT AN ENCLOSED ONE.

SO ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH. SO THOSE PROJECTS CAME UP IN DISCUSSION WITHIN THE COMMITTEE.

SO PEOPLE THAT WERE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE CAMPUSES, AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WHERE THE CONTEXT OF THOSE CAME UP.

THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYWHERE? I KNOW THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TRYING TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS ON WHAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDING.

IT'S LIKELY WHY THEY ENDED UP AS P2 ITEMS BECAUSE THEY WERE FOCUSED MORE ON THE SPACES, AND THE COVERED WALKWAYS DIDN'T MAKE THAT CUT FOR BEING A P1 ITEM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A HOLISTIC EVALUATION TO SAY THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATIONS.

WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT HERE, THEN WOULD WE NEED TO LOOK EVERYWHERE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A HOLISTIC EVALUATION DONE OF THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE.

YOU KNOW, DOES EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAVE WHEREVER THEIR DROP OFF PICKUP LINES ARE? DOES EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAVE A WAITING SPACE FOR THEIR STUDENTS THAT HAS A COVERED PATHWAY AT THE ELEMENTARY OR EVEN AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL? I DON'T THINK THAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS WAS DONE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER, BUT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING EXERCISE TO SEE HAPPEN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS DO HAVE THAT KIND OF COVERED AREA, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOT THE CBC'S OPINION.

THANK YOU.

SO SINCE WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANYTHING, I GUESS IT STAYS.

OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD.

WE HAVE MORE SCHOOLS WITHOUT COVERED WALKWAYS THAN WE HAVE WITH.

SO TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A LOT OF MONEY TO THE TO THE BOND.

SECOND OF ALL, THOSE DROP OFF POINTS CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE PRINCIPAL.

WE'VE MOVED DROP OFF POINTS FOR SPECIAL ED AND FOR PRE-K.

BASED ON WHERE A PRINCIPAL WANTED US TO DROP THEM OFF AT.

SO SAY WE BUILT THE COVERED WALKWAY.

WE CHANGED PRINCIPALS.

THEY WANT TO MOVE IT NOW.

I GOT TO MOVE THE COVERED WALKWAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, AT MY PARTICULAR SCHOOL, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHERE WE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHERE IT COULD CHANGE SO THAT THOSE STUDENTS ARE BETTER PROTECTED AND WHERE IT CAN'T, AND WE FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT CAN'T.

SO THERE'S SMALL PROJECTS I NOW KNOWING THAT IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WERE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE SCHOOLS.

I'M NOT AS COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT HOLISTICALLY, BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT DEPENDING ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE SITUATION AT THE AT THE CAMPUS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A COUPLE OF THOSE PROJECTS ON THERE, YES, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THEIR CAMPUS.

THEY HAD HEARD ABOUT IT FROM EITHER OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR FROM PRINCIPALS.

ONE THAT STANDS OUT TO ME WAS THE SPICEWOOD COVERED WALKWAY BETWEEN THE MODULAR BUILDINGS THERE, AND THE MAIN BUILDING WAS ONE THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT HAD MAYBE EVEN BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM A PRINCIPAL, BUT IT, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED LIKE IT WAS THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO HOW THOSE THINGS CAME UP.

SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AT THIS TIME, OR I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE DATA DRIVEN THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT.

SO JUST FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.

SO. YES, I'M I'M GOOD.

IF I KNOW THAT WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO REMOVE ANYTHING, BUT IF YOU ARE OKAY REMOVING IT, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I GOT THE INFORMATION THAT I NEEDED AND THEY'RE NOT ON THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE P2.

RIGHT THEN. WELL, IT'S ON OUR LIST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

I'M GOOD REMOVING IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT D 17 IT IS 1003.

IT HAS BEEN ALMOST TWO HOURS SINCE OUR LAST BREAK.

I THINK THESE LAST COUPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT DO WE NEED A.

NOPE. MOVE ON.

OKAY. D 17, HB THREE AND T SAFETY AND SECURITY.

UNFUNDED MANDATES.

THIS CAME BACK BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, SPECIFICALLY ON CARS FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND WHATNOT.

TRUSTEE WEIR. YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

IT IS. I, I WAS JUST GOING TO I KNOW WE'VE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT, SO I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

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LIKE YOU SAID, YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND THEN CUT, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE HB THREE REQUIRED GROWTH.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ADDING ALL OF THAT, SINCE WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE M AND O TO HIRE THE INDIVIDUALS.

THAT IS JUST TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO SIT AND NOT HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO, AND THE ONLY AND ALSO THE SILENT PANIC. PAGE NINE AND TEN, THE BOTTOM OF NINE AND DISTRICT WIDE PROJECTS NUMBER 37 THROUGH 42.

WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE 36, 36, 37 AND 38 ARE ALL WELL, 36 IS REPLACING.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GOT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO JUST REPLACE OUR AGING POLICE CARS THAT WE ALREADY OWN, IF THOSE ARE NEEDED, OR IF THIS WAS ALL JUST PURCHASING 75. YEAH, THE 6.3 WAS ALL 75 VEHICLES.

YEAH. WE MIGHT COULD REDUCE THAT JUST TO ADDRESS OUR CURRENT CARS.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT READY TO MOVE TO REALLY MEET HOUSE BILL THREE, BUT WE ADDED EIGHT.

WE BUDGETED FOR EIGHT MORE OFFICERS FOR THIS YEAR.

SO AT THE VERY LEAST, OUR.

WHY? BECAUSE.

BECAUSE WE BUDGETED FOR IT.

THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG I THOUGHT WE DID NOT BUDGET THEM.

WE DECIDED NO, WE BETTER THEM LAST YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T HIRE THEM.

SO WE JUST CARRIED IT TO THIS YEAR, BUT I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN OUR BUDGET CYCLE, THAT WE SAID WE WOULD NOT HIRE THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER RETAIN CURRENT PROFESSIONALS, THEN HIRE NEW, AND WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF DEFERRED.

THAT WAS ANOTHER 11 THAT WE STOPPED FROM.

OH, OKAY. THAT WAS ANOTHER THE EIGHT WAS PART OF THE 2324 BUDGET.

YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH, AND WHERE WOULD THOSE EIGHT I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT, MADAM CHAIR? I KNOW TRUSTEE WEIR SAID 3637, 38.

WERE THERE ADDITIONAL CAN I GET CLARIFICATION ALL THE WAY THERE? 42 EVERYTHING THAT SAYS MANDATED HB THREE REQUIRED GROWTH INTO T REQUIRED ADDITIONS, ALL OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. SO 43.

YEAH WHATEVER, BUT SOME OF THEM LIKE THE FENCING I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH THAT'S TO REQUIRED.

SO I'M NOT I'M NOT BUT IT'S UNFUNDED.

IT'S UNFUNDED I UNDERSTAND IT'S UNFUNDED I MY MY ISSUE WAS MORE WITH THE ONES THAT IMPACTED M AND O VERSUS LIKE FENCING AND ACTUALLY DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR CAMPUSES SAFE.

THE SILENT PANIC, THE EXTRA THING ON THE ID.

I WASN'T REALLY FOR THAT.

IT'S WE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND DOUBLE RIGHT NOW, BUT, LIKE, DOORS AND HARDWARE AND FENCING.

I'M NOT REALLY I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE THE HB THREE REQUIRED GROWTH THAT WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS FOR, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE M AND O FOR.

I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, AND SO IF THERE IS, IF THERE ARE EIGHT OFFICERS, IF WE COULD GET DIFFERENT PRICING FOR WHAT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE YEAH POSITIONS FOR SURE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WITH THE EIGHT OFFICER THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE MORE OFFICERS ACTUALLY PATROL ON OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND CHECK IN ON THEM. I THINK THAT WILL THAT WILL BE A THAT WILL BE A GOOD LIKE SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL, TO PROVIDE COVERAGE, BUT WE WON'T WE WON'T MEET HOUSE BILL THREE WHICH IS ONE OFFICER PER PER SCHOOL, BUT AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE MORE MORE OFFICERS ON THE, ON THE ROADS CHECKING ON OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES.

SO CAN I REQUEST, DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THAT IN WRITING JUST TO REQUEST WHAT? BECAUSE THIS THIS 6.3 IS FOR 75 VEHICLES.

SO I MEAN WHAT IS EIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER TRUSTEES.

YEAH. HAVE TO SAY ABOUT, AND I CAN PUT IT ALL IN WRITING TO LATER IF THAT'S BETTER, MADAM CHAIR, THAT YOU WOULD NEED MORE THAN EIGHT.

THE ONES THAT WE HAVE NOW WILL BE OUT OF LIFE CYCLE BY THE END OF THIS BOND.

SO YOU WOULD NEED MORE THAN THE VEHICLES FOR THE EIGHT NEW OFFICERS.

SO REPLACE THE EXISTING VEHICLES AND ADD EIGHT AND ADD EIGHT MORE.

THAT'S ALL. YEAH.

IF YOU CAN GIVE US PRICING ON THAT.

I WOULD JUST SAY I 100% CONCUR WITH TRUSTEE.

WEIR. OUR STATE GOVERNMENT IS SITTING ON $30, $30,000,030 BILLION SURPLUS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT THEY ARE HOLDING HOSTAGE, AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH PASSING ON A TAX BURDEN TO HIT UNFUNDED MANDATES BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND IF THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE SAME CHANGES, THE RULES NEXT SESSION AND SAYS, YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT, THERE'S NO WAIVER, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT WHEN WE GET ALONG, BUT I DO NOT AGREE WITH PASSING ALONG THAT TAX BURDEN TO OUR TAXPAYERS WHEN WE ARE ALREADY SENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RECAPTURE BACK TO THE STATE OF OUR

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SO I 100% AGREE WITH GETTING RID OF EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN OF UNFUNDED MANDATES.

I THINK IT IS RIDICULOUS AND NOT FAIR.

SO THAT'S MY STANCE ON IT.

TRUSTEE MARKUM. HOW LONG IS OUR WAIVER VALID? HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT? ANNUALLY? ANNUALLY.

ANNUALLY, AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THEY'RE GOING TO LET US DO THAT? WE DON'T KNOW THAT. THERE'S NO THEY HAVE NO PARAMETERS ON THAT.

NO. JUST LIKE OUR PRESIDENT, MARK LANDRUM, SAID, YOU JUST HAVE TO SUBMIT IT EVERY YEAR.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LAW THAT SAYS BY YEAR, SO AND SO YOU CAN'T GET A WAIVER.

OKAY, AND WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES IF AFTER THE NEXT LEDGE SESSION, THEY DO NOT ADD ANY MORE FUNDING TO HB THREE? THEY DON'T GIVE US ANY MORE FUNDING FOR THIS MANDATE, AND WE CAN'T SUBMIT A WAIVER.

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES? WHO KNOWS? OH, YEAH.

AT THIS MOMENT THERE IS NOT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES, BUT ANYTHING CAN CHANGE WITH THE NEXT SESSION, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DO OR NOT DO.

YEAH. THE BIGGEST CONSEQUENCE TRUSTEE MARKUM IS THE STATE GOES IN THE NEXT SESSION AND SAYS HB THREE MANDATES.

WE'RE CHANGING THE LAW. YOU CAN NO LONGER SERVE FILE A WAIVER.

YOU HAVE TO FULFILL THIS, AND WE EITHER HAVE TO FIND IT IN OUR OWN M AND NO BUDGET, OR WE GO OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND NEXT YEAR TO HIT THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATURE TO FUND IT, BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR BOND FAILS? I MEAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS TRYING TO PREDICT THE FUTURE.

ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE THE LAWS TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A WAIVER OR THE WAIVER ENDS IN THREE YEARS, OR WHO KNOWS? OKAY, WILD, WILD WEST DOWN THERE SOMETIMES.

I KNOW AT ONE POINT IN TIME THERE, THERE WAS THE THOUGHT THAT DISTRICTS COULD BE PLACED UNDER CONSERVATORSHIP OR GO INTO A MONITOR, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

NOT NOT FOR THIS.

NOT FOR THIS.

I THINK THERE WERE THERE WERE, LIKE WITH THE INTRUDER.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DO THIS INTRUDER STUFF, AND THEY WERE THERE WERE SOME THREATS ABOUT IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, IF YOU DON'T PRODUCE ALL THIS PAPERWORK AND WHATEVER THAT YOU COULD, BUT NOT FOR NOT FOR THE SROS AND HAVING ONE OFFICER PER SCHOOL.

AGAIN, ANYTHING CAN CHANGE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HAVING THE NEXT SESSION IN JANUARY, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT AT THIS MOMENT THERE'S NOTHING.

OKAY. JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL BOARD MEMBERS I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.

IF WE WILL GO BACK AND ACTUALLY WITH EVERYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND CHECK ON THIS AGAIN, AND WE HEARD VERY CLEAR WHAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW CAN WE MAYBE TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE ITEMS? AND THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBLE BOND, I GUESS.

LAST QUESTION.

THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE POLICE VEHICLES, AND SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, BUT THE REPLACE THE AGING POLICE CARS AND PURCHASE NEEDED VEHICLES, AND THEN IN THE NOTE AT 75, BUT YOU'RE SAYING HOW MANY VEHICLES DO WE ACTUALLY NEED TO REPLACE THAT? WE HAVE NO BUDGETED FOR THOSE OFFICERS.

I THINK WE HAVE 31 VEHICLES AT THIS MOMENT, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT 31 IS AND YOU NEED TO REPLACE ALL 31 OR WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE WILL HAVE TO.

BECAUSE I WAS ALSO I MEAN, THERE'S SOME VEHICLES WERE PURCHASED BACK IN 2020 I THINK 2019, 2020.

SO IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WILL BE LIKE 2029, THAT WILL BE LIKE NINE YEARS OLD.

SO THE END OF THE BOND.

RIGHT. SO AT THAT TIME WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE TO REPLACE THEM.

OKAY, AND FOR THE 31 THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED IS THAT THE 6.32.

WHAT IS THAT. YEAH 6.32 MILLION.

THAT'S IS THAT FOR REPLACEMENT.

IS THAT I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT'S FOR 75.

SO IT WOULD BE HALF THAN THAT.

SO WE ESTIMATE OKAY ABOUT HALF A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF.

YEAH, AND IS THAT FOR IS THAT FOR LIKE A 1 TO 1 REPLACEMENT OF THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT THEY HAVE NOW.

OR ARE WE LOOKING AT LOWER COST ESTIMATING LIKE, GO AHEAD, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE NUMBERS.

YEAH. SO I'M SURE SIR.

YEAH. RICH ANDREW G DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND SECURITY AND BEEN HELPING OUT WITH THE POLICE SIDE OF THIS.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 32 VEHICLES.

WE NEED EIGHT MORE FOR A TOTAL OF 40.

SO NOT KNOWING WHAT THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD WAS GOING TO BE AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE MAY NEED TO GO WITH THIS, I GOT QUOTES FOR JUST THE TAHOES THAT THE OFFICERS CURRENTLY HAVE, AND FULLY EQUIPPED TAHOES WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO ANY FUNCTION.

ONCE WE HAVE A DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD, MAYBE A POTENTIAL GOAL OF HEY, WE'D LIKE TO HIT THIS X DOLLAR AMOUNT.

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I JUST PICKED THE CARS THAT WE HAD.

WHAT? I'VE OUTFITTED POLICE DEPARTMENTS WHERE I WAS THE CHIEF AT IN THE PAST WITH EQUIPMENT THAT I KNEW MY OFFICERS WERE HAPPY WITH AND THAT HELD UP WELL, AND I QUOTED IT, QUOTED IT OUT SIMILAR TO THAT, AND THEN PRESENTED IT TO THE BOARD AS OR TO THE CBC FOLKS.

SO I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS THE, I GUESS PIE IN THE SKY KIND OF IT'S I'M CONFIDENT IT'S NOT GOING TO COST MORE THAN THIS.

I'M ALSO EXTREMELY CONFIDENT THAT EVEN GETTING ALL 75 CARS, I CAN BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY.

SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES GETTING QUOTES FOR THIS EQUIPMENT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET A QUOTE FROM THE DEALERSHIP. THEN WE HAVE TO GET A QUOTE FROM THE UPFITTERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING ALL THAT POLICE STUFF IN IT.

SO YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO COME TOGETHER, AND THEN SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN QUICKLY.

SO IN MY, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS ROLE, IT WOULD SOMETIMES TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS TO GET LIKE A FULL QUOTE BACK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GETTING CARS THAT AREN'T ALL EXACTLY THE SAME, WHICH IN THIS CASE, I FULLY BELIEVE WE CAN GET CARS THAT AREN'T ALL THE SAME.

TO DRIVE THAT NUMBER DOWN LIKE EVERY SINGLE CAR DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES IN IT, BUT WE DO NEED, IN MY OPINION, WE STRONGLY NEED EVERY OFFICER TO HAVE A CAR, AND NOT FOR A NOT FOR THE ASPECT OF LOOKING AT IT AS PART OF THEIR COMPENSATION PACKAGE AND TO BE COMPETITIVE SALARY WISE, BUT AS A SAFETY ISSUE AND A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT MY OFFICERS WHEN I WAS IN THE WACO AREA DID HAPPEN, IS WE HAD THE US MARSHALS GET IN A PURSUIT WITH SOMEBODY, AND MY OFFICERS AND THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS PARKED OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOLS ON THE ROAD THAT THEY WERE GOING DOWN TO ENSURE THAT PURSUIT DIDN'T CRASH OR GO INTO ONE OF OUR SCHOOL PARKING LOTS.

JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

SO NOT HAVING CARS THERE FOR THEM TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING JUST SIMPLE AS THAT, KEPT THAT ISSUE OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.

SO IT'S MUCH MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME, LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY THAN A PERK FOR OUR OFFICERS, AND TO USE IT AS A RECRUITING TOOL TO TRY TO GET TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME.

SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND RESPONSE TIME AND NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S INTEREST FROM THE REST OF THE TRUSTEES FOR UNDERSTANDING IF MAYBE THERE'S IF WE CAN GO DOWN ON THAT NUMBER BY NOT PURCHASING THE TAHOES, BUT LOOKING AT OTHER VEHICLES THAT MAY BE MORE AFFORDABLE BUT STILL ALLOW YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AT YOUR FULL CAPACITY.

THE KIA SOUL IS VERY NICE.

I'M SORRY HIS MIC CUT OUT.

I COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING HE SAID THAT WAS ON PURPOSE.

OKAY. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE, I THINK.

TRUSTEE. WESTON. GO AHEAD.

OH, WAIT. NO, TRUSTEE HARRISON WAS NEXT.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I WAS IN FAVOR OF WHAT TRUSTEE WEIR PROPOSED.

I AM CURIOUS IF SEDANS MIGHT BE CHEAPER.

I KNOW THEY AREN'T QUITE AS SEXY AS THE TAHOE, BUT JUST.

THAT'S MY CURIOSITY.

YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK, LOOK INTO THAT.

I KNOW THAT DODGE STILL MAKES THE CHARGER AS OF RIGHT NOW.

MY PAST EXPERIENCE, AGAIN, LEADING A DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE MONEY I SAVED, AND THE PURCHASE OF THE CHARGER WAS SPENT IN THE MECHANICAL UPKEEP OF THE CHARGER.

IT WAS IN THE SHOP MORE THAN IT WASN'T, AND LIKE, HORRIFIC BRAKE ISSUES, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TEXAS, OR MAYBE IT'S UTAH THAT HAS HALF OF THEIR FLEET OF THE DODGE DODGES ARE CURRENTLY DOWN.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP, KEEP, KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, BUT IF FORD STILL DOES MAKE THEIR TAURUS BASICALLY, THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.

I MEAN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WASTING A LOT OF TIME.

I DON'T WANT TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.

I DO THINK IN THINKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND NOT PURCHASING 75 VEHICLES, AND MAYBE RIGHT SIZING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE HB THREE, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A QUOTE FOR 40, AND I'LL GIVE SEVERAL OPTIONS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE WITH.

I'M SEEING SOME YES. HEAD NODS.

THANK YOU. WE CAN DEFINITELY TEAMWORK THAT UP.

TRUSTEE WESTON. MADAM CHAIR, MY COLLEAGUES SHOULD BE ADVISED THAT I AM NOT DOWN FOR SPENDING ALL OF THIS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON ALL THESE POLICE CARS.

I'M NOT DOWN FOR THIS AT ALL.

I ACTUALLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

ARE WE DOING HIGH SPEED CHASES? ARE WE? DO WE NEED PADDY WAGONS? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT DO WE NEED A TAHOE FOR? SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY WE HAD THE TAHOES WHEN WE GOT WHEN WHEN I GOT HERE, THOSE WERE ALREADY PURCHASED HERE.

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LIKE I LOOK AT IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND ON THESE CARS, THE DOLLAR IS NOT GOING TOWARDS.

THAT'S CORRECT. EDUCATION.

WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE, WHICH IS WHY I'M CONFIDENT I CAN GET THIS NUMBER DOWN.

SO DO WE NEED 40 PURSUIT RATED VEHICLES? PROBABLY NOT, BUT WE DO NEED VEHICLES THAT ARE CAPABLE OF RUNNING THE LIGHTS AND THE SIRENS AND THE BIGGER COOLING SYSTEM, AND SOME OF THAT COMES AS A PART OF IT.

I THINK WE CAN I DON'T WANT TO SAY VALUE ENGINEER THIS AS I GUESS GOT LIKE THE PROPER TERM FOR IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THIS PRICE DOWN STILL MEET THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.

WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE CARS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, I'M ALSO NOT DOWN FOR HAVING A POLICE CAR FOR EVERY POLICE OFFICER TO TAKE TO THEIR RESIDENCE.

I'M NOT DOWN FOR THAT. I'M NOT DOWN FOR PAYING FOR THAT.

WHAT I'M DOWN FOR IS MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE IS A THREAT THAT ENTERS OUR CAMPUS AND REPRESENTS A PHYSICAL THREAT TO OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF, THAT WE HAVE TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT HAVE THE COURAGE AND THE GUTS TO GO TOWARDS THE THREAT AND TO TAKE OUT THE THREAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE EXPLOSIVE COSTS THAT I SEE LISTED HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO GET US TO THAT END, AND SO I'M NOT I REALLY DON'T NEED A ROBUST DEBATE.

I MEAN, IT'S 1020 AT NIGHT.

I JUST AS I ADVISE THE CHAIR, I NEEDED MY COLLEAGUES TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT DOWN FOR ALL THIS MONEY BEING SPENT ON THIS KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH, I CAN TOTALLY AGREE WITH 99% OF THAT.

THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY AND NOT IN DEBATE, BUT UNTIL WE ARE FULLY STAFFED OUT, OUR OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY RESPONDING ON AVERAGE TO 60 CALLS PER MONTH BACK TO THE DISTRICT AFTER SCHOOL IS OUT.

FOR AS THINGS FROM KIDS ON ROOFS HERE RECENTLY AND CHIEF GRIFFITH CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

SO I DO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN WE GO HOME, THE BUILDINGS ARE STILL HERE AND KIDS ARE STILL HERE AND WE'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE.

I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE ON CALL OFFICERS AND MAYBE IF YOU'RE ON CALL CORRECT DURING OFF DUTY, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A VEHICLE, BUT I THINK THAT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE NEED FOR A FOR A POLICE OFFICER AND A SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION IS JUST TRANSPORTATION, AND TO TRUSTEE HARRISON'S POINT AND ACTUALLY TO TRUSTEE ZÁRATE YOU MENTIONED A KIA SOUL.

I HONESTLY, SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE REALLY CLOSE.

LIKE A BIKE MIGHT BE GOOD.

I LIKE I'M DOWN FOR A BIKE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SO I'LL PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE, GO AHEAD.

I THINK MY COLLEAGUES KNOW WHERE I STAND, SO WE ALSO HAVE TO PREPARE FOR IF THAT THREAT COMES IN.

SORRY. LAUREN GRIFFITH INTERIM CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO LIKE MR, ANDREWS SAID WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE SCHOOLS 24 OVER SEVEN 365 CHRISTMAS, ALL THOSE HOLIDAYS. IN AND WE ARE RESPONDING TO PEOPLE COMING ONTO CAMPUSES, CAUSING DAMAGE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, KIDS TRESPASSING, AND WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE LOCAL AGENCIES ARE NOT RESPONDING.

SO WE DO HAVE TO COME IN TO THAT.

AS FAR AS A BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO PREPARE FOR IF SOMEONE IF A THREAT COMES IN AND THEN THAT THREAT LEAVES, WE ARE GOING TO CHASE THAT THREAT DOWN AND ELIMINATE THAT THREAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO ON A BICYCLE.

SO THAT'S WHY A VEHICLE I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT.

ALSO THESE VEHICLES CAN BE I MEAN, THERE'S WE'RE RESPONDING TO WHEN THERE'S A FIGHT ON THE SCHOOL BUS, THEY CALL US BECAUSE THAT MAY BE AN APD JURISDICTION AND THEIR RESPONSE TIME IS NOT QUITE AS QUICK AS OURS FROM THE SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

SO WE'RE RESPONDING TO BUS FIGHTS.

WE'VE ALSO WHEN ONE OF OUR BUS BROKE DOWN THEY CALLED FOR APD.

THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BUSY WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

OUR OFFICERS WENT AND BLOCKED PALMER LANE SO THAT THOSE STUDENTS COULD GO FROM THE BUS THAT WAS BROKEN DOWN AND HOT TO A BUS THAT WAS READY TO TAKE THEM HOME FROM SCHOOL. WE'RE WE'RE BACKING UP OTHER OFFICERS.

THOSE VEHICLES CAN BE USED AS FAR AS IF THERE'S A CRITICAL INCIDENT AT THE SCHOOL.

EMS AND FIRE IS NOT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR THE SCHOOL UNTIL IT'S SAFE, AND SO THESE VEHICLES CAN BE USED TO EVACUATE PATIENTS THAT NEED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S ALL TRUE, AND I'M ALL I BELIEVE THERE IS A NEED FOR VEHICLES FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S UP FOR DEBATE.

WHAT'S UP FOR DEBATE IS WHICH KIND OF VEHICLES, HOW MUCH THEY COST, HOW MANY WE NEED, WHEN, HOW MUCH ACCESS THE OFFICERS HAVE, AND I DO KNOW YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE FIRE AND THE AMBULANCES ARE NOT GOING TO ENTER THE SCENE UNTIL THE SCENE IS SECURE.

THAT'S TRUE. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY, SO I THINK THE WAY THIS ONE RESOLVES IS IF WE CAN GET A REEVALUATION OF PROJECTS 36 THROUGH 43, I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT SPREADSHEET.

I CAN GET IT TO YOU.

IT'S BASICALLY ALL OF THE HB THREE REQUIRED GROWTH ITEMS, AS WELL AS TIA REQUIRED ADDITIONS AND SECURITY DEFICIENCIES.

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SO THAT'S WHY HE WENT WITH THOSE TAHOES AT THAT TIME.

SO IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PROJECT LINES, AND I KNOW DR.

AZAIEZ CAN WORK WITH YOU AND GET THOSE, THOSE LINE ITEMS AS WELL.

LINDSEY IS GOING TO GET THEM. I GOT THEM AND REWORK SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.

FROM 75 VEHICLES DOWN TO 40.

WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE, WHAT DOESN'T? AND THEN I THINK WE DID.

WE ALL AGREE THAT TAKING AWAY THE LITTLE TAG ON THE ON THE IDS, THE SMART BUTTON, REMOVING THAT I WANT TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE, BUT THESE UNFUNDED MANDATES ARE RIDICULOUS IN MY OPINION.

THEY PLACE A LOT OF UNDUE BURDENS ON OUR DISTRICT AND OUR TAXPAYERS.

SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE SEVEN LINE ITEMS TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET.

IT'S SOMETHING LIKE $20 MILLION OR NO, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

IT'S $30 MILLION IN THOSE SEVEN LINE ITEMS. SO IF WE CAN KIND OF REWORK THAT AND BRING THAT, AND I KNOW THEY'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH, BUT BEST ESTIMATES THAT YOU CAN GET FOR CARS AND REDUCTIONS AND ALL THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YES, MA'AM. SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? JUST BECAUSE IT ALL KIND OF COMES TOGETHER ON THE HOUSE BILL, THREE GROSS ITEMS, THE RADIOS AND DISPATCH CONSOLES, ANY QUESTIONS OR HEARTBURN FROM THE BOARD ABOUT THAT AND OR THE COMPUTERS FOR THE CARS? WE'RE GOOD THERE.

IF THIS IS STANDARD EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE TO OPERATE THE CARS, THEN WELL, THE IT'S FOR THE OFFICERS.

SOME OF IT GOES IN THE CAR. SOME OF IT DOESN'T, BUT IT'S I'M SORRY RICH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THOSE NUMBERS.

WE GET BACK AND WORK ON THEM TOGETHER.

THOSE RADIOS ALSO WERE CALCULATED FOR A 70 SOME OFFICERS TO MEET HOUSE BILL THREE.

SO WE'LL GO BACK AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALLER A WAY SMALLER NUMBER SIMPLY BECAUSE ALSO WE, WE ARE GOING TO BE USING FEWER SROS.

SO WE WILL GO BACK AND GET ALL THESE NUMBERS TAKEN CARE OF YOU WITH FOR YOU FOR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

WE WILL AND AND SOMEWHAT TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP HERE, I THINK CARS ARE NECESSARY FOR SURE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A FLEET, IF WE EVER DO STAFF ALL THE WAY OUT TO 75, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE DO NEED EVERY OFFICER TO HAVE IN A CAR AT 75, WHEN THEIR MAIN RESPONSIBILITY IS TO STAY AT ONE CAMPUS ALL DAY LONG.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME KIND OF MAJOR, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE HAVE A, A STAFF OF SOME THAT ARE ON PATROL, AND THOSE OFFICERS, I MEAN, THAT'S LONG TERM DOWN THE ROAD, BUT TRYING TO BE AS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS WE CAN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. I WOULD LIKE TO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR ANALYSIS OF OF THE NUMBERS.

SO I'LL GET IT TO YOU.

GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY.

DOWN TO I ADDED ITEM 18.

D 18. CONSIDER P TWO, P THREE ITEMS IF NEEDED.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE BROUGHT ANYTHING UP.

I PUT IT ON HERE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I KNOW.

TRUSTEE WEIR HAS A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS TOTAL.

SO I'LL LET YOU BEGIN.

TRUSTEE WEIR KNOW, NO.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OF P2P3 THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTION? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH NUMBER.

IT WAS THE ONE THAT ADDED THE CEDAR RIDGE TURF.

THERE ARE SOME RESURFACING THAT WAS P2 AND P3.

THAT'S NOT IN YOUR NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.

I ACTUALLY HAD THAT ON OTHER OTHER CBC PROPOSED PROJECTS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

TRUSTEES, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS THIS IS THE AREA WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

LOOK AT PAGE FIVE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT.

THERE'S $1.26 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT THE CBC DID NOT ADD THAT THEY WILL EXPIRE IN THIS BOND'S LIFE CYCLE. SO WE NEED TO ADD RESURFACING TENNIS COURTS AT CEDAR RIDGE, RESURFACING THE TRACK AT CEDAR RIDGE.

RESURFACING TENNIS COURTS AT ROUND ROCK.

RESURFACED GYM FLOOR AT WALSH TRACK RESURFACE AT WALSH AND TRACK RESURFACE AT RIDGEVIEW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ADDING THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO EXPIRE? I'M NOT LOOKING AT TRUSTEE.

WEIR ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY PROBLEM ADDING THOSE PROJECTS? NO, THEY'RE REALLY SMALL DOLLAR PER PROJECT THAT NEED THAT ARE GOING TO EXPIRE WITHOUT A $15 MILLION BRIDGE.

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FOR THE BRIDGE. NO.

BREATHE. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

OTHER CBC PROPOSED PROJECTS.

I HAVE TWO THAT ARE ON HERE.

IF YOU LOOKED AT THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN, THE FIRST ONE I ASKED WAS ABOUT BERKMAN, AND THAT'S ON PAGE ONE, AND WELCOME BACK TO THE WAS ON BERKMAN THAT WE ORIGINALLY WERE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE PORTABLES WITH WET PORTABLES.

THEN WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING MODULAR BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NICER, AND THEN THERE I ASKED FOR A COST ESTIMATE TO ADD PERMANENT CLASSROOM BUILDING, WHICH CAME IN AROUND 10 MILLION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SITE CONSTRAINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE BERKMAN IS UNRESOLVED AT THIS POINT, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CAMPUSES THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY OVERLOOKED.

BERKMAN FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH BERKMAN IN TERMS OF FUNDING FOR THIS.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR.

AZAIEZ, AND I KNOW DR.

GUERRERO. THANK YOU, NANCY, FOR BEING HERE, BECAUSE WE ALSO TALKED WITH OUR WONDERFUL PRINCIPAL ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND OBVIOUSLY, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A PERMANENT SOLUTION RIGHT TO THIS.

RIGHT. I THINK ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR PRINCIPALS AND TEACHERS, EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY, PERMANENT, BUT SHE SAID, ALSO WHEN I TALKED TO HER, SHE SAID A MODULAR OPTION ALSO WILL MAKE THEM HAPPY TOO.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AS HAPPY AS A, AS A PERMANENT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE, MAKE SURE YOU THAT WE SPOKE WITH HER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHAT PORTABLE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO TO IF POSSIBLE.

DR. GUERRERO, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

THANK YOU. YES.

NANCY GUERRERO, AREA SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE CEDAR RIDGE LEARNING COMMUNITY.

GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE AND ALL THE HOURS YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THIS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, YES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE MODULAR.

I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT ALSO, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS IN THIS FACILITY, THIS AREA, EVEN WET PORTABLES TO THE BACK. THE ADDED COMPONENT IS WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER ACCESS.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WET PORTABLES, IT'S NOT THAT EASY OF A SOLUTION.

WE CAN'T GET WATER LIKE WE TAKE WATER OUT EVEN FOR THE PLANTS WE HAVE OUT IN THE GARDEN AREA.

YOU DON'T HAVE A HOSE.

THERE THE MODULAR WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IT IN THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE A BLACKTOP FOR RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, AND SO THAT WOULD BRING PROXIMITY.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT STUDENTS ARE CROSSING THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL TO GET TO THOSE PORTABLES.

SO SAFETY IS A CONCERN.

WE COULD GO BACK TO PUT THE PLAYGROUND IN THE BACK.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU HAVE ADULT SUPERVISION ALWAYS WITH A CLASS THAT GOES OUT TO A PLAYGROUND.

SO A BOND DEALER WOULD BE A GOOD, STRONG SOLUTION THAT WOULD SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

THE MODULAR SETTING ON THE BLACKTOP WHERE WE HAVE A PRETTY URBAN PLAYGROUND RIGHT NOW, THAT USED TO BE THE PARKING LOT FOR BERKMAN WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION BECAUSE IT ALSO WOULD BRING THE SOLUTION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, WITH THE DELAY IN HAVING TO PUT UP A PERMANENT STRUCTURE OF THE SIX CLASSROOMS THAT ARE NEEDED.

SO THE OPTION WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, EITHER A FIXED OPTION OR A MODULAR, AND THE VISION, I THINK WHEN WE SPOKE WITH OUR PRINCIPAL IS TO HAVE THAT MORE LIKE AN EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER, LIKE A CENTER OR CLASSROOMS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PRE-K THREE, WE HAVE PRE-K FOR DUAL LANGUAGE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALSO WE HAVE EARLY CHILDHOOD, THE HEAD START PROGRAM.

ALSO, WE HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS, I THINK, AND THAT WE CAN ALL PUT TOGETHER IN WHATEVER NEW BUILDING I GUESS WE DECIDE TO HAVE.

TRUSTEE WEIR WOULD THE MODULAR ON THE HARDSCAPE BE ABLE TO HAVE WATER? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RUN WATER OUT THERE? YOU'RE MUCH CLOSER TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND SO SOMEWHAT EASIER.

OF COURSE, I'M NOT THE EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TYPE OF FACILITY, BUT GETTING THE WATER TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ACROSS THE BUS LANE IS WHAT HAS BEEN A BIG CHALLENGE CURRENTLY.

WELL, IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE RIGHT NOW.

YES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET WATER TO IT.

THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT ESTHETICS OF PUTTING THE BIG MODULAR BUILDING IN THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL?

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I MEAN, CAN WE TRY TO MATCH EXTERIOR OR ESTHETICS? AND I HATE PORTABLES, I HATE MODULARS, AND I JUST, I DON'T WANT THE STUDENTS THAT ARE AT THAT SCHOOL TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY AFTERTHOUGHT, AND I WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE A HOME.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

GREATLY APPRECIATED.

I CAN TELL YOU, HAVING SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES.

NOW THERE ARE CITY ORDINANCES ALSO THAT SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUILDING IN FRONT OF A BUILDING, BUT PRIOR TO THE NEW BUILD NEXT DOOR AT CITY, FOLKS, THERE HAVE BEEN PORTABLES IN ALMOST THE SAME AREA, JUST ON THE CD FOLKS' SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

I CAN TELL YOU WITH THE MODULAR THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE AT CEDAR RIDGE, WE DID A REALLY FABULOUS JOB ESTHETICALLY FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THAT MODULAR.

SO BECAUSE BERKMAN IS AN AIA SCHOOL AND WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO REALLY DRESS UP THE SPACE AND TO MAKE IT INVITING AND LOOK LIKE IT IS AN ARTS INTEGRATION ACADEMY, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE, AND I'M WITH YOU.

I WOULD WANT IT TO LOOK STELLAR AND BE INVITING AND BE HOME, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING IS MAGICAL.

OKAY, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T HAVE A MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES, BUT THE BLACKTOP NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING A BUILDING IN FRONT OF A BUILDING, BUT THE BLACKTOP IS TO THE SIDE, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT CONSTRAINT.

IS THAT SO? I CAN TELL YOU THAT PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE TO DO IT IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SPACE.

AND PROBABLY DAVID BECK CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE MORE SINCE HE'S HAD TO DO A LOT WITH CITY ORDINANCES.

I DO KNOW THERE'S A CITY ORDINANCE THAT SAYS CAN'T HAVE A BUILDING IN FRONT OF A BUILDING UNLESS THERE'S A CONSTRAINT LIKE THIS.

SO IT WOULD BE NEXT TO THE BUILDING WHICH BECAUSE THE BUILDING KIND OF LS THE MODULAR WOULD BE ON THAT BACK HALL IN FRONT OF THAT BACK HALLWAY, BUT THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL WOULD STILL BE FACING THAT ANDERSON AVENUE AND BE COMPLETELY CLEAR. WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE ON THAT, ON THAT SAME FACADE.

SO WHAT ARE OUR.

I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, LIKE, PROACTIVELY.

WHAT IF THE CITY DOESN'T GIVE US SOME KIND OF WAIVER TO THIS ORDINANCE OR WHATNOT? WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS AT BERKMAN? IF THE CITY SAYS, YEAH, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT THIS TIME.

I JUST SAW THAT.

LOOK, MANY OPTIONS THERE.

INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

HI. MELANIE CAMERON, DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO, OF COURSE, GET WITH THE DESIGNER AND LOOK INTO A LOT OF THOSE ORDINANCES, BUT THERE ARE HEIGHT ORDINANCES AND CLEARANCES FROM THE STREET, AND BERKMAN IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM THERE.

IT'S A VERY TIGHT CONSTRAINT ON THAT SITE.

IT WOULD BE SAFER TO GO WITH A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, RIGHT? I MEAN, BUT IT'S MORE MONEY, OBVIOUSLY.

I'M PULLING UP THE MAP RIGHT NOW JUST TO LOOK AT IT.

AND THERE'S NOT A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE L AND WHERE IT WOULD.

THERE'S NOT A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING A PERMANENT STRUCTURE IN THERE.

I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT NOT DOING IT IN THE BACK BECAUSE OF HAVING TO CROSS THAT STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE COULDN'T FILL IN THAT L WITH A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

I THINK SCOTT SOMEONE I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT IT AND THINKING WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EXTERIOR WINDOWS RIGHT THERE ON THAT ONE SIDE.

WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, WHEN WE.

THE 10 MILLION IS KIND OF BASED ON PUTTING IT IN THE BACK WHERE THE PORTABLES ARE AND REROUTING THE DRIVEWAY AROUND THAT.

IF WE THINK THAT WE CAN USE THAT L SPOT, THAT COST COULD GO DOWN.

THAT. SCOTT.

THAT PART. SORRY. THAT COST WOULD WHAT? THAT COST COULD GO DOWN, AND SCOTT, WE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.

I MEAN, I TALKED WITH OUR PRINCIPALS AND THAT'S REALLY THE VISION AGAIN, AND I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL TO PUT ON THE SIDE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT ON SO WE CAN SHOW OUR BOARD MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT IT.

YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CD FOLK SIDE, RIGHT? YES. OKAY.

IT'S LIKE THERE'S LIKE A BASKETBALL COURT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE EXPLORED EVERY OPTION FOR THAT PROPERTY.

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I GET ALL THAT, BUT I JUST WANT.

YEAH, YEAH, I SEE IT NOW.

TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT PLEASE.

HERE WE GO. SEE WHERE THERE'S LIKE A BASKETBALL.

IT'S BY. THAT'S WHERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. THAT. YEAH.

THE PERMANENT STRUCTURE WILL GO OVER THERE, AND THEN CAN YOU GO SCROLL BACK TO THE PORTABLES PLEASE, AND BEHIND THEM.

HERE WE GO. SO THAT THOSE PORTABLES WILL BE GONE, AND THAT WILL BE AN AREA FOR OUR STUDENTS LIKE A PLAYGROUND, ANOTHER PLAYGROUND OR BASKETBALL COURT, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. THEN WOULD WE NEED TO REPLACE THE PARKING THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY OR IS THAT.

NO PARK, NO PLAYGROUND? NO. OKAY. WE TOOK IT AWAY WHEN WE.

WHEN WE HAD TO MOVE PORTABLES INTO THAT SPACE, WE TOOK AWAY A PLAYGROUND.

SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE AND WHY YOU SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE PLAY SPACE.

IT'S FENCED IN.

IT'S A PLAYGROUND.

IT'S JUST AN URBAN PLAYGROUND.

GOT IT. OKAY, SO MAYBE BY NEXT WEEK WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER REVISIT OF BERKMAN AND THE OPTIONS FOR THAT SITE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE. WEIR. YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

IS THAT AN OLD LIGHT? OKAY. OKAY, SO DOES ANYBODY I PUT 20 ON HERE JUST AS ANOTHER KIND OF CLEANUP LINE ITEM FOR ANYBODY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT TRUSTEE MAY I SAY SOMETHING? ALSO, I KNOW LAST TIME YOU TALKED ABOUT ONE OF OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES, WHICH ONE? AND THEN CEDAR RIDGE, ALSO VERTICAL LEARNING COMMUNITY.

OH FOREST CREEK.

THAT'S RIGHT. YES, AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS A CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH, AND I DID ALSO TALK WITH OUR NEWLY HIRED PRINCIPAL, AND THERE IS A DESIRE MAYBE TO HAVE ALSO AN EXTRA STRUCTURE THERE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK WITH MORE INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF. DENNIS, IF YOU WANT TO, I NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT CAMPUS THOUGH.

LIKE IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE NOT IN THAT BUILDING JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THAT CAMPUS.

FOREST CREEK AGAIN, SORRY.

I'M GOING TO BRING DR. GUERRERO AGAIN.

YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT TOO.

GO AHEAD DENNIS, I'LL LET WHILE SHE'S WALKING.

NO, IT'S ON ANOTHER TOPIC.

SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD? OH. DR., TALK ABOUT THE.

I'M SORRY, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT FOREST CREEK AND THE PORTABLES? THEY HAVE? AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY HAVE ENTIRE THIRD GRADE OUT THERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS ROOM FOR THOSE INSIDE.

BUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THAT THE TEACHERS PREFER TO BE OUTSIDE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE USE OF THAT CAMPUS.

NO, MA'AM. THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF THIRD GRADE BEING OUTSIDE IN THE PORTABLES.

THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE THE NUMBER OF THE ENROLLMENT REQUIRED.

A GRADE LEVEL TO BE OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE NOT RETURNED TO THE NUMBERS, AND SO THE NEW PRINCIPAL DOES HAVE INTENTIONS OF MOVING THIRD GRADE, BUT OF COURSE, WE KNOW SCHOOL STARTS IN JUST OVER A WEEK.

SO WE DO HAVE A VISION FOR THAT.

THEY'VE REALLY TRIED TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE BUILDING.

THEY ARE APPROVING TRANSFERS, SO IT'S A WELL SOUGHT AFTER PLACE.

SO ULTIMATELY LONG RANGE, THIS CAMPUS WILL LIKELY NEED ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, BUT AGAIN, LIKE HISTORICALLY, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A GRADE LEVEL OUTSIDE AT FOREST CREEK, AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THOSE PORTABLES ARE SO OLD AND THEY WERE CONSIDERED IN THE 2014 BOND TO GET AN EXTENSION, THEY WERE CONSIDERED IN THE 2018 BOND TO GET AN EXTENSION, AND THEY KEPT GETTING CUT OFF AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND I DON'T WANT TO NOT CONSIDER THEM, BUT IF THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR IT RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE, PERHAPS THIS ISN'T THE BEST TIME, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT CAMPUS BETTER AND HOW THEY'RE UTILIZING THEIR SPACE.

WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF THE.

DOES FOREST CREEK NEED AN EXTENSION AT THAT LOCATION? I BELIEVE FOURTH GRADE NEEDS AN EXTENSION.

I BELIEVE THAT SHORT TERM WE CAN BRING IN TEACHERS AND TEACHERS.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE OUT IN THE PORTABLES, I THINK, FOR THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS, WHICH IS ALWAYS SUCH A PRIORITY.

THOSE PORTABLES ARE CLOSE TO THE THRUWAY, THE ROAD, AND WE DO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT TRY TO ELOPE.

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I THINK IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLOURISH AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE STUDENTS COMING INTO OUR BUILDING.

OKAY. ANY OTHER TRUSTEES? YEAH, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK ON THE EIGHTH WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOREST CREEK PROPERTY.

OKAY. MR. COVINGTON. I'LL END OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM CBC.

THERE'S A LINE FOR FURNITURE IS $7 MILLION.

YES. WE'VE DONE A REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE FOR HOW WE CAN USE THAT MONEY AND TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

TRUSTEES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LINE ITEM NUMBER D.4 ON PAGE EIGHT.

YES. THANK YOU.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER TO 10.3 MILLION IN ORDER TO REPLACE FURNITURE.

THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS, ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL EVERY YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS, AND ONE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE TOTAL OF 10.3, WHICH IN THE IN THE LINE ITEM THAT'S IN THERE NOW IS SEVEN.

AND SO YOU WILL HAVE TO ADD 3.3 TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT EFFECTIVELY.

SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THE $7 MILLION WERE ONLY JUST FOR SECONDARY.

SO THIS WILL ALLOW US THE EXTRA 3 MILLION WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE 15 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITH THE NEW FURNITURE.

CAN YOU SEND THAT OUT IN AN EMAIL TO YES MA'AM BOARD SO THAT YEAH, I JUST FINISHED WORKING ON IT BEFORE I WALKED OVER HERE SO I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEND IT TO YOU.

OKAY, THAT GIVES US SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK UP AT THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, TRUSTEES OKAY.

OKAY. NEXT STEPS I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS BRIEFLY, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND TRY TO GET OUT OF HERE.

TRUSTEE HARRISON POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

YES, AND NEXT STEPS. ARE WE INCLUDING TALKING ABOUT DATES? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN WE INCLUDE TALKING ABOUT DATES OF MEETINGS? YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS. NEXT STEPS ARE SO WE HAVE TWO TO 2 TO 3 ISH MEETINGS STILL TO TALK ABOUT BOND STUFF.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR A WEEK FROM TONIGHT ON AUGUST THE 8TH.

WE'LL BRING BACK SOME OF THESE PROJECTS A GOOD VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, TO GET THAT, WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.

SOME WE WERE ABLE TO WRAP UP ON.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

AS MUCH OF THAT INFORMATION WE CAN GET AHEAD OF TIME.

DR. AZAIEZ, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

EVEN IF 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE, THE MORE ADVANCED THAT WE CAN GET IT TO BETTER TO UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST IT.

SO WE HAVE THAT ON AUGUST 8TH.

WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST THE 13TH.

I, I WON'T DECIDE UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING ON THE EIGHTH IF WE NEED THE MEETING ON THE 13TH.

WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF SEE HOW FAR WE GET ALONG ON THE 18TH.

I'M ANTICIPATING WE WILL NEED IT TO WRAP EVERYTHING UP, AND THEN THE AUGUST 15TH IS OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING, AND THE PLAN WILL BE TO CALL FOR A BOND AT THAT POINT, AND I AM HAVE A MEETING ON MONDAY TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE LOGISTICS AND WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE LEGALLY, EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE WRAPPED UP.

I ALSO PLAN ON WORKING TRUSTEES, THIS SPREADSHEET THAT YOU NEED A MAGNIFYING GLASS TO SEE.

GETTING THAT UPDATED THIS WEEK.

GET US A NEW COPY OF IT.

TO LOOK AT CHANGES AND PRICE CHANGES, SCOPE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS ALL TRACKED IN ONE DOCUMENT. SO I'LL WORK ON WITH ADMINISTRATION GETTING THAT UPDATED AND OUT TO THE TRUSTEES SO THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER.

I WOULD ACTUALLY PREFER TO HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY SO THAT WE CAN DO SOME SORTING OF IT ON OUR OWN AS WELL.

SO I'LL WORK WITH ANNIE TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE ON GETTING US AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF THIS DOCUMENT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE LOOKING AT CAMP PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THE EIGHTH IS EVERY PROJECT BE SORTED INTO A PROPOSITION? SO WE HAVE A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF, ACCORDING TO LEGAL ADVICE, WHAT WOULD BE ON WHAT PROP AND YOU'D HAVE A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING IF THIS WENT FORWARD, THE ATHLETIC PROP WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS AND ATHLETIC AND FINE ARTS PROP WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS, IT WOULD BE THIS MUCH MONEY, BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT REALLY NAILED DOWN IN THE NEXT WEEK.

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I THINK WE CAN DO IT.

PRAYING WE CAN DO IT.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEPS.

WHAT I NEED FROM TRUSTEES, AND I'LL SEND A REMINDER OUT TOMORROW.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU STILL HAVE REMAINING, YOU HAVE GOT TO GET THESE IN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATION TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

GET THEM IN. EVEN IF IT'S WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK AND YOU HAVE A NEW QUESTION, SEND IT IN, AND ADMINISTRATION IS I WENT TO PATTI THIS MORNING AT 11 AND ASKED HER ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE MODULAR LOCKER ROOM AT CEDAR RIDGE, AND SHE WORKED REALLY HARD TO PULL ALL OF THAT HISTORY AND BOARD DOCS.

SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT IF YOU SEND SOMETHING IN ON WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OF NEXT WEEK, THAT WE'LL HAVE IT ANSWERED BY THE MEETING.

BUT I KNOW ADMINISTRATION WILL DO THEIR ABSOLUTE DARNDEST TO GET THESE THINGS ANSWERED.

SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK, TRUSTEES, AND LET'S DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS RESOLVED AND WRAP THIS THING UP BY AUGUST 15TH.

I HAVE A LIGHT ON BY TRUSTEE HARRISON.

YES, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE AUGUST 13TH MEETING.

I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE MY TRAVEL SCHEDULE, WHICH I THOUGHT I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO, BUT IT'S LOOKING DICEY AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR CONFIRMED WITH ONE NO RSVP AND TWO QUESTION MARKS, AND SO I WOULD NOT WANT EVERYONE TO COME IN THAT MEETING, NOT MAKE.

SO I WANTED TO CHECK WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE QUESTION MARKS TO SEE IF THOSE ARE STILL QUESTION MARKS.

WE ARE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT SCHEDULING CALENDARING, BUT, I MEAN, KIND OF WITH NEXT STEPS, BUT LET ME LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK.

CAN WE? I HAVE FIVE YESES.

OH, WAIT. NO, SORRY. THAT'S THE EIGHTH.

YEAH. THE 13TH.

YOU DON'T HAVE FIVE.

TRUSTEE ZÁRATE. YOU SAID YOU COULD JOIN VIRTUALLY.

NO, THAT'S ON THE EIGHTH THAT I CAN JOIN VIRTUALLY.

I'D BE I'D BE AT WORK ON THE 13TH.

I INTENTIONALLY KEEP THURSDAYS FREE, BUT I TEACH MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.

USUALLY I CAN TRY TO HAVE MY TO COVER IT.

IF WE HAVE A SHORT MEETING, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE I'LL BE HERE.

TIMES IS HARD.

I'M SORRY. OKAY, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT YOU, DANIELLE? YOU STILL ARE. MAYBE ON THE 13TH.

I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY I CAN BE HERE ON THE 13TH.

OKAY. WELL, FOUR IS A QUORUM.

YES, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CHANGE MY TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS BACK YET, SO I'M UNSURE IF I'LL BE ABLE TO, AND THAT WOULD.

SO YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO.

OKAY. WELL, I WILL SEE HOW THE NUMBERS.

I'LL TELL YOU THIS. IF IT COMES DOWN TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE QUORUM, I WILL MAKE IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE.

SO I HAVE I HAVE THE COMMITMENT.

IF YOUR TRAVEL PLANS DON'T CHANGE OR CAN'T CHANGE, THANK YOU.

OR IF YOU CAN JOIN VIRTUALLY FOR PART OF IT OR AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK, AND IF WE DON'T GET IT CALLED, WE HAVE TO CALL IT BY THAT MONDAY, WE COULD ACTUALLY TURN WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE COULD TURN THE 15TH INTO ANOTHER WORK SESSION AND THEN SCHEDULE A MEETING ON MONDAY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THAT TO JUST CALL A MEETING.

IF I COULD GET A QUORUM.

PATTY, WOULD YOU MIND SENDING OUT AN EMAIL FOR, LIKE, A 10 A.M.

MONDAY MORNING, THE 19TH? TO CALL THE BOARD. CALL THE BOND.

I MEAN, JUST AS A BACKUP.

I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY'S AVAILABILITY.

IF WE DON'T, IF THE 13 DOESN'T MAKE AND WE HAVE TO USE THE 15TH TO FINALIZE PROJECT LIST, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE BOND ON THE 19TH.

SO IF YOU COULD SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND CHECK.

I CHECK BOTH CHECK DURING THE DAY AT 10 A.M., AND CHECK IN THE EVENING AT 5 P.M, AND SEE WHO'S AVAILABLE.

NOT EVERYBODY IS HERE TONIGHT, SO I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO THROUGH WHO'S AVAILABLE ON THAT DAY, BUT AS A LAST RESORT, IF THE 13TH DOESN'T WORK AND WE'D HAVE TO TURN THE 15TH INTO ANOTHER WORK SESSION, WE CAN WRAP IT UP ON THE 19TH.

THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, AND SO WE COULD DO THAT.

OKAY, AND DID WE LOOK AT THE 14TH? I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. DID WE LOOK AT THE 14TH? YES. THERE WAS NOT AVAILABILITY ON THE 14TH.

I THINK WE LOOKED AT THAT THE LAST MEETING THE LAST TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU I DIDN'T I DON'T I THINK WE CERTAINLY COULDN'T GET A QUORUM ON THE 14TH IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO.

THANK YOU.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THIS AGENDA ON NEXT STEPS FOR THE BOND? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO IN THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD ON THE BOND, WHICH WAS JULY 18TH, I HAD ONE REQUEST AND THAT WAS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO

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SO IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE DID HAVE CONSENSUS, AND ON JULY 9TH WE DID HAVE CONSENSUS.

SO WOULD THAT BE ON THE EIGHTH? IT COULD BE ANY TIME.

I, I REALLY, HONESTLY, LIKE I SAID, I WAS PLANNING THIS MEETING FROM OVERSEAS, AND SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO.

I THINK THE EIGHTH WOULD BE FINE.

OKAY. SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE EIGHTH.

PATTY, WILL YOU HELP ME REMEMBER TO ADD THAT TO THE EIGHTH AGENDA? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S A LOT IN MY BRAIN RIGHT NOW.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I'M GOING TO READ US INTO CLOSED.

[E. CLOSED SESSION ]

THE BOARD WILL MEET TO DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE ON THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, THE BOARD MAY SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE/SALE OF LAND.

DO WE NEED TO MEET OUT HERE? WANT TO GO BACK THERE? WHAT DO Y'ALL HAVE? OKAY, LET'S STAY OUT HERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CLOSED SESSION IN THIS ROOM, SO I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO GATHER THEIR BELONGINGS, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING, AND WE WILL.

SAME BACK CHANNEL NEXT.

THIS TIME NEXT WEEK IT IS 1055 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

IT IS 1141.

[F. CALL BACK TO ORDER]

DO YOU HAVE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE COMPLETED EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S 11:41 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.