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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:06]

>> I DON'T SAY THAT VERY OFTEN. GOOD MORNING.

IT IS 9:01 ON THURSDAY JULY 18TH, 2024.

I HEREBY CALL THE MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES, CALLED BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.

I WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT.

TODAY IN ATTENDANCE, WE HAVE ALL SEVEN TRUES, A QUORUM IS MET.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

>> WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING,

[C. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS D, E, F AND H ONLY]

SO LET ME START WITH OUR SPEECH.

AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

WE ASK THAT CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.

SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES.

THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS.

AS A REMINDER, THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ANTI-HATE RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022, WHERE THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE, OR POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON.

PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED.

PER TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02, AND 42.05, AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105, NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON.

THE BOARD SHALL NOT TO TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, AN INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.

THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS CLAUDIO CRUZ, SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM, I DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M ON ITEMS F.

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> YOU DO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY. REALLY BEFORE WE START THE SCHOOL YEAR, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND REALLY DESIRING AND WISHING THAT WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR THIS YEAR.

I'M ASKING ABOUT INCREASING VOLUNTEERISM AND MENTORING IN OUR SCHOOLS.

>> MR. CHRIS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT TO SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU CAN TIE IT TO THE BOND CBC PRESENTATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT TO SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

>> I'M SORRY. WELL, THAT WILL KEEP IT SHORT, BUT ANYWAY, WE NEED TO MAYBE, LIKE I SAID, INCREASE VOLUNTEERISM AND MENTORING AND HAVE BUDGET ITEMS THAT ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE OUR FUTURE LIES IN THESE KIDS.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THAT IS, WHERE SOME OF OUR YOUTH ARE INVOLVED IS REALLY SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED TO JUST DO A BETTER JOB IN REGARDS TO BRINGING THESE KIDS TO THE FOREFRONT AS FAR AS HAVING A GOOD FUTURE.

I APOLOGIZE.

>> YOU'RE GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> BUT THE MAIN THING, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND LET'S GET TOGETHER, AND LET'S HAVE A GREAT YEAR ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR KIDS, AND OUR STAFF, AND OUR SCHOOL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TAMMY CONRAD, SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM H2, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, AND YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE?

>> YES, I AM. GOOD MORNING.

I AM TAMMY CONRAD.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF EDUCATION ROUND ROCK.

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR DISTRICT STAFF, EMPLOYEES, AND THE BOARD FOR CONTINUING TO WORK THIS SUMMER TO PREPARE FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR STUDENTS.

WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE BOND COMMITTEE VOLUNTEERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN THIS PROCESS.

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I KNOW, FROM VOLUNTEERING ON THE LONG RANGE FACILITIES PLANNING COMMITTEE, HOW TIME CONSUMING AND INTENSE THE PROCESS IS.

TODAY, I'M SPEAKING TO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BOND REPORT OF OVER $65 MILLION.

OVER $28 MILLION OF THAT TOTAL IS FOR HB3 GROWTH ITEMS IN TEA, PHYSICAL SAFETY AND SECURITY ITEMS. THESE ARE MANDATED ITEMS BY THE STATE AND BY TEA, BUT THEY ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT FULLY FUNDED BY THE STATE OR BY THE TEA.

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, BUT WE WEREN'T GIVEN ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THEM WITH.

THAT'S WHY THEY SHOW UP ON THE BOND RECOMMENDATIONS LIST.

WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT THESE THINGS.

WE AT EDUCATION ROUND ROCK CONTINUE TO ASK COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CONTACT THE GOVERNOR AND THEIR LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES TO ASK THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS BE FUNDED APPROPRIATELY, IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR LAST SPEAKER IS FABIAN GUERO, SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM H1, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT?

>> YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS.

I WANT TO PASS THE SAME SENTIMENT AS EVERYBODY, THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK FOR THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.

LAST NIGHT, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MY FUTURE FATHER IN LAW AND I WAS TELLING HIM ABOUT TODAY'S WORKSHOP, AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD NEVER NOT VOTED AGAINST A BOND.

AS I LOOKED AT HIS 70-YEAR-OLD BODY WITH HIS BALDING GRAY HAIR, I UNDERSTOOD WHY.

HE'S A AFRICAN AMERICAN.

IN A PERFECT SYSTEM, WE WILL HAVE THE FUNDS TO PROPERLY RESOURCE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN A SYSTEM THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT, SO WE LEAN INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR HELP.

I'M ASKING THE COMMUNITY, THE DISTRICT, TO LOOK INTO FUNDING THIS BOND SO THAT EVERY STUDENT HAS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT ENDS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[D. ACTION ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT]

WE ARE ON TO ITEMS BY CONSENT.

ITEMS D1, 2, AND 3, AND I'LL NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE CAN BEGIN.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE ITEMS D1-3 BY CONSENT.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING? I DIDN'T SEE YOUR TRUSTEE VOTE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 511.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM E1.

[E. DISCUSSION ITEMS]

THIS ITEM ACTUALLY HAS MY NAME NEXT TO IT BECAUSE I ASKED.

MR. MORSE, WE HAVE A VISITOR HERE COMING SPEAKING TO US WITH THE LEON ALCALA LAW FIRM, BEN MORSE.

SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE REPORT TODAY, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY LEAD INTO THIS BOARD CALLING FOR A BOND IN THE FUTURE, AND NO ONE SITTING ON THIS DAIS HAS EVER ACTUALLY CALLED FOR A BOND BEFORE, I WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW THE LAW HAS CHANGED SINCE WE CALLED FOR A BOND THE LAST TIME IN THIS DISTRICT, WHICH WAS 2018.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE PAYING ATTENTION BACK THEN, 2018, THAT BOARD DECIDED TO GO FOR ONE PROPOSITION, DECIDED IT WAS ALL FOR ONE, ONE FOR ALL, AND PUT EVERY SINGLE THING, I THINK IT WAS $508 MILLION, ALL ON ONE PROPOSITION.

YOU VOTED YES FOR EVERYTHING OR NO FOR EVERYTHING.

THE LAWS HAVE SINCE CHANGED IN THE WAY WE HAVE TO PUT THEM ON THE BALLOT AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL ALSO BE ON THE BALLOT.

I WANTED MR. MORSE TO GIVE US AND THE COMMUNITY AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED.

HE HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR US.

TRUSTEES, AFTER WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ARE JUST FACTUAL ABOUT THE LAW, WE CAN ASK THEM IN OPEN SESSION.

WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP ITEM, ITEM F2 THAT MR. MORSE WILL STICK AROUND FOR IN CLOSED SESSION.

IF WE NEED ANY LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT THE BOARD CALLING FOR A BOND OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN MR. MORSE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STICK AROUND FOR CLOSED, BUT QUESTIONS IN OPEN SESSION SHOULD BE FACTUAL ABOUT THE LAW, HOW THEY'VE CHANGED, ANYTHING ABOUT HIS PRESENTATION, BUT PLEASE DO NOT ASK HIM OR MISS ALCALA FOR LEGAL ADVICE IN OPEN SESSION.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MORSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE SO EARLY ON A RAINY THURSDAY MORNING.

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

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I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD INTRO TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

THANKS TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. [INAUDIBLE], PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MICHELLE.

WHAT I DO IS BASICALLY, WITH OUR FIRM, I HANDLE ALL OF THE PUBLIC FINANCE MATTERS, SO THAT GENERALLY ENTAILS WORKING ON SCHOOL BOND ELECTIONS AND BOND ISSUES.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE PRESENTING RATHER THAN MICHELLE, IS I DEVOTE BASICALLY ALL MY PRACTICE TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT HERE.

LET ME MAKE SURE I CAN WORK THIS SLIDE.

WELL, THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S. THERE WE GO.

OKAY. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE HISTORICAL BACKDROP.

I THINK PRESIDENT LANDRUM HAS COVERED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE GLOSS ON THAT.

THE FIRST THING IS THAT TEXAS LAW HAS ALWAYS REQUIRED SEPARATE BOND PROPOSITIONS WHEN YOU HAVE WHOLLY DISTINCT PURPOSES BETWEEN THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE SETTING OUT TO VOTERS.

YOU SEE THIS OPINION FROM OVER 100 YEARS AGO THAT BASICALLY SAYS, YOU COULD NOT HOLD AN ELECTION TO CALL BONDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS AND A JAIL IN THE SAME PROPOSITION.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS YOU COULDN'T PUT A COURTHOUSE AND DRAINAGE CANALS IN THE SAME PROPOSITION.

WHY HAS THERE BEEN A CHANGE WITH SCHOOLS? THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT SCHOOLS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEEN AS HAVING A SINGLE DISTINCT PURPOSE.

ANYTHING THAT A SCHOOL COULD DO IS JUST A SCHOOL PURPOSE.

WHAT I VIEW IS THE SEMINAL CASE ON THAT IS THIS JONES VERSUS SHARYLAND ISD.

TAXPAYERS ESSENTIALLY ARGUED THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE TO USE A PROPOSITION THAT AUTHORIZED SCHOOL BUILDINGS TO CONSTRUCT A GYM.

THE COURT BASICALLY SAID, A GYM IS NECESSARY FOR PHYSICAL EDUCATION, PHYSICAL EDUCATION IS A REQUIRED CURRICULUM, AND SO THEREFORE, A GYM IS BASICALLY A SCHOOL BUILDING.

IF I CAN GET THIS TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.

>> YOU CAN SAY NEXT SLIDE AND THEY CAN ADVANCE IT IF YOUR CLICKER IS NOT WORKING.

>> WHAT DID THE DISTRICT DO IN 2018? WE DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT, A SINGLE PROPOSITION FOR $508 MILLION.

YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT AS THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITHIN WHAT THE DISTRICT PUT TO VOTERS IN 2018.

THERE WERE JUST THE TRADITIONAL SCHOOL BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, SO NEW BUILDINGS, EXPANSIONS, AND UPGRADES AT THE FACILITIES.

BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT SAY ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT CASE THAT I JUST MENTIONED BEFORE SAYS THAT SCHOOLS ARE ALL A SINGLE PURPOSE, BUT YOU MIGHT CATEGORIZE THESE IN DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

THE SECOND ONE WAS AN AQUATIC FACILITY.

THERE ARE ALSO PLAYGROUNDS, STADIUM TURF REPLACEMENTS, TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES, AND SAFETY AND SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AS DISTRICTS CAN STILL DO NOW, THIS IS ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.

DISTRICTS ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE CERTAIN PROJECTS INTO A SEPARATE PROPOSITION AND A STANDALONE PROPOSITION.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PROHIBITION AGAINST COMBINING CERTAIN THINGS, BUT DISTRICTS ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO, AT THEIR OWN OPTION, SEPARATE OUT CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE BALLOT SEPARATELY.

IN 2018, IT WAS VERY EXTREMELY COMMON, I WOULD SAY, TO HAVE ONE PROPOSITION AND PUT THAT TO VOTERS RATHER THAN SEPARATING OUT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT OR EVEN PROJECT CATEGORIES.

WHAT CHANGED? OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD 100 YEARS OF CASE LAW, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, SAYING THAT BASICALLY YOU COULD HAVE A SINGLE PROPOSITION.

WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN WAS THE LEGISLATURE HAD TO PASS A LAW THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT LANDSCAPE, AND THEY DID THAT IN 2019.

FOR TIMING PURPOSES, IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T COME INTO EFFECT UNTIL MAY OF 2020.

OBVIOUSLY, WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY OF 2020 IS WE HAD COVID WAS JUST GETTING STARTED, SO WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF BOND ELECTIONS IN MAY 2020.

REALLY WHEN THIS BECAME A BIG ISSUE WAS THE NOVEMBER 2020 CYCLE IS WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TO SEE THIS REQUIREMENT UNFOLD, I WOULD SAY.

BUT YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE, THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF BASICALLY WHAT I CALL SPECIAL PROJECTS.

THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT THE DISTRICT HAS TO SEPARATE OUT

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AND CANNOT COMBINE THOSE WITH TRADITIONAL SCHOOL FACILITIES.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT NOW.

HOW I'VE TRIED TO SET THIS OUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SLIDE IS THE BOLD IS THE PURPOSE AND THEN IF THERE'S A CARVE OUT IN THAT SPECIAL PURPOSE, IT'S UNDERLINED.

IN THE FIRST BULLET, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ACQUISITION OR EQUIPMENT OF A STADIUM, BUT THAT STADIUM HAS TO HAVE A SEATING CAPACITY OF MORE THAN 1,000 SPECTATORS.

IF YOU HAVE A STADIUM THAT HAS A SEATING CAPACITY OF 1,000 OR LESS SPECTATORS, ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS NOT A SPECIAL PURPOSE.

IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 1,000 THOUGH, THAT IS A SPECIAL PURPOSE.

WHAT THAT GENERALLY MEANS IS, THIS IS A VERY GENERAL THING, BUT I WOULD SAY IT TENDS TO TARGET FOOTBALL STADIUMS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CAPACITY MORE TIMES THAN NOT OF MORE THAN 1,000 SPECTATORS WHEREAS BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL STADIUMS AND OTHER ATHLETIC STADIUMS DON'T TEND TO HAVE THAT SEATING CAPACITY, BUT IF THEY DID, IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL PURPOSE.

THE SECOND IS THE CONSTRUCTION ACQUISITION OR EQUIPMENT OF AN AUDITORIUM, ESSENTIALLY ANY SWIMMING FACILITY.

THE AQUATIC FACILITY IN THE 2018 PROPOSITION, MORE THAN LIKELY, WOULD BE CATEGORIZED AS AN AUDITORIUM.

>> THEN THE THIRD ITEM IS THE CONSTRUCTION ACQUISITION OF ANOTHER RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AND THE CARVE OUT THERE IS EXCEPT FOR A GYM PLAYGROUND OR PLAY AREA.

GYMS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND PLAY AREAS ARE SPECIFICALLY CATEGORIZED AS A GENERAL PURPOSE ITEM THAT COULD BE COMBINED WITH THINGS LIKE A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL BUILDING.

THE NEXT BULLET IS CONSTRUCTION ACQUISITION EQUIPMENT OF A PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE THING THAT I WOULD NOTE ABOUT THAT IS IT'S NOT FINE ARTS, IT'S PERFORMING ARTS.

I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS CONFOUNDING THOSE TWO THINGS, BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PERFORMING ARTS FACILITIES, NOT FINE ARTS FACILITIES.

THE FIFTH BULLET IS CONSTRUCTION ACQUISITION AND EQUIPMENT OF TEACHER HOUSING OR TEACHERAGES.

THEN THE LAST ITEM IS AN ACQUISITION OR UPDATE OF TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT.

EXCEPT FOR, THE CARVE OUT WHERE YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING INTO THE GENERAL PROPOSITION IS EQUIPMENT THAT'S USED FOR SCHOOL SECURITY PURPOSES OR ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S INTEGRAL TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FACILITY.

ANYTHING THAT'S NOT SET OUT IN THOSE BULLETS WOULD THEN BE GOING BACK TO THE OLD LANDSCAPE OF ALL OF THESE ITEMS CAN BE COMBINED INTO A SINGLE PROPOSITION.

THE WAY THEY LOOK AT THIS IS, YOU HAVE A GENERAL MOST TIMES, NOT ALL DISTRICTS HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT MOST TIMES DISTRICTS WILL LOOK AT THIS AS PROPOSITION A IS EVERYTHING THAT'S UP THERE.

IT'S ALSO ANYTHING THAT'S UP THERE THAT'S UNDERLINED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE REQUIREMENT TO PUT THAT PROJECT INTO A SPECIAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION.

LAST ITEM THAT I'LL MENTION, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ESSENTIALLY ALL OF YOUR BOARD ISSUES.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S VIEW ON WHAT THE LAW IS BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO AGREE THAT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS LEGAL.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHAT THEY WILL DO FROM TIME TO TIME IS THEY WILL ISSUE WHAT'S ALL BOARD COUNSEL LETTERS.

THOSE ARE BLASTED OUT TO MYSELF AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS IN THE BOARD COUNSEL COMMUNITY.

ESSENTIALLY, IT'S DOESN'T HAVE A BINDING PRECEDENT TO A COURT, BUT IT GIVES NOTICE TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF ON WHAT THE AG'S POSITIONS ARE ABOUT LEGAL CHANGES OR THEIR CHANGES IN THEIR LEGAL POSITIONS RELATED TO BOND ISSUES.

THE FIRST THING I WOULD MENTION IS THE AG HAS SAID BASICALLY THAT CONSTRUCTION INCLUDES BOTH NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS IN RENOVATIONS.

ONE THING I'VE GOTTEN FROM CLIENTS FROM TIME TO TIME IS WE'RE NOT BUILDING A NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM, SO WE'RE NOT CONSTRUCTING A STADIUM.

THE AG HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEIR POSITION IS, CONSTRUCTION INCLUDES ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING TO TOUCH AN EXISTING FACILITY, NOT JUST NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S THE FIRST IMPORTANT POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.

THE SECOND POINT AND THIS IS REALLY PART OF THE STATUTORY FRAMEWORK,

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BUT THE AG IS ALSO GIVEN SOME GUIDANCE ON THIS AS WELL.

A SINGLE FACILITY CAN HAVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES.

THE EXAMPLE THAT I GIVE HERE IS A NEW HIGH SCHOOL WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE NEW LAPTOPS FOR EVERY STUDENT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO CONSTRUCT A NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS 5,000 SEATS.

IN THIS EXAMPLE, YOU'VE GOT THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IS A TRADITIONAL WHAT I WOULD CALL GENERAL PURPOSE FACILITY.

YOU'VE GOT NEW STUDENT LAPTOPS, WHICH IS TECHNOLOGY, PRESUMABLY NOT FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY PURPOSE.

IT'S A TECHNOLOGY PURPOSE THAT COULD NOT BE PUSHED TO THE GENERAL PROPOSITION.

THEN YOU'VE GOT A NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM WHICH EXCEEDS THAT 1,000 SEAT REQUIREMENT.

IN THIS EXAMPLE, WHAT THE AG HAS SAID IS, YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE COSTS OF EACH OF THOSE PURPOSES TO MULTIPLE PROPOSITIONS.

THAT CAN SOMETIMES CREATE CHALLENGES AND THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE PROJECTS THAT DEPEND UPON EACH OTHER THAT NEED TO BE IN SEPARATE PROPOSITIONS, AND THAT CAN CREATE CHALLENGES FOR BOND ISSUERS.

THE NEXT ITEM THAT THE AG HAS PROVIDED SOME CLARITY, AT LEAST ON THEIR POSITION IS PERFORMING ARTS FACILITIES.

WHAT THEY HAVE SAID IS THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO COVER SOMETHING THAT'S A GENERAL ASSEMBLY ROOM, A BAND PRACTICE HALL, OR A CAFETERIA OR GYM THAT ALSO FUNCTIONS AS AN AUDITORIUM.

A LOT OF TIMES THOSE THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT BLURRED BECAUSE YOU WOULD USE THOSE GENERAL SPACES, OCCASIONALLY OR A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PERFORMANCES.

REALLY WHAT THE ANALYSIS THERE IS THE AG SAYS, WHAT IS A PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY IS SOMETHING THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY USED FOR CONCERTS OR OTHER PERFORMANCES TO AN AUDIENCE.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER IT'S PREDOMINANTLY FOR PERFORMANCES OR IF IT'S MORE FOR GENERAL PURPOSES.

THE NEXT THING THE AG HAS CLARIFIED IS THAT SPECIAL PROPOSITIONS CAN COVER AN ENTIRE CATEGORY.

YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO JUST ONE FACILITY OR PROJECT.

IF YOU WERE IMPROVING TWO STADIUMS THAT HAD OVER 1,000 SEATS, YOU COULD COMBINE THOSE INTO A SINGLE PROPOSITION.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE FOR FOOTBALL STADIUM A AND FOOTBALL STADIUM B.

THE LAST THING I WOULD NOTE IS THIS IS THE MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT FROM THE AG'S OFFICE.

THIS WAS FROM AN ALBON COUNSEL LETTER THAT CAME OUT LATE DECEMBER LAST YEAR.

WHAT THE AG'S OFFICE HAS DONE SINCE REALLY NOVEMBER OF 2020 IS, THEY'VE MORE OR LESS DEFERRED TO DISTRICTS DETERMINATIONS ABOUT PROJECTS, AND THEY HAVE REQUIRED CERTIFICATIONS WHERE THE DISTRICT SAYS, WE ARE NOT FINANCING SPECIAL PROJECTS UNDER THE GENERAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION.

YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT THE AG'S OFFICE NOW IS BASICALLY REQUIRING YOU TO PROVIDE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE FINANCING IN THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT YOU MAKE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS, TO ME, IT'S A SHIFT FROM WHAT THE DISTRICT BELIEVES AS FAR AS THE DETERMINATION TO THE AG'S OFFICE IS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT DETERMINATION AND SEE IF THEY AGREE ON WHETHER THAT'S A REASONABLE DETERMINATION OR IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK THE TAKEAWAY THERE IS IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT I THINK OR WHAT THE DISTRICT THINKS AS WHAT WE THINK THE AG THINKS IS THE REQUIREMENT.

THAT CAN PRODUCE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU WANT TO ASK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THROUGH A PROCESS CALLED PRE-CLEARING.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TAKE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WE CAN DISCUSS, PROBABLY IN CLOSED SESSION OR NOT IN OPEN SESSION ABOUT THOSE DECISIONS AND WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE AG'S OFFICE IS MORE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS ON ON HOW YOU'VE CATEGORIZED YOUR PROJECTS.

THE LAST THING, I THINK WHEN I WAS ASKED TO PRESENT, IT WAS MORE FOCUSED ON THIS NEW REQUIREMENT, AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY BIG CHANGE FROM 2018 TO NOW.

THERE IS A SECOND CHANGE AND THAT'S YOU'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THE BALLOT THAT SAYS, THIS IS A TAX INCREASE.

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THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THE BALLOT.

BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENCE THAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO SEE ON THE BALLOT WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR DECISION, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO SUPPORT THE BOND ISSUE.

WITH THAT, I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECTS, I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION, BUT THAT'S THE BOARD'S DETERMINATION ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

TRUSTEES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORSE FOR OPEN SESSION? TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MORSE.

>> JUST A REMINDER, ALL QUESTIONS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CHAIR.

YOU CAN LOOK AT HIM, BUT JUST IT HELPS DIRECT WHO THE QUESTIONS ARE FOR.

THAT'S JUST PART OF ROBERT'S RULES.

I HAVE A TRUSTEE LANDRUM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MORSE OR PERHAPS YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR. THAT JUST HOW OUR SYSTEM WORKS.

>> AS THE POINT OF ORDER.

>> WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

>> POINT OF INQUIRY, ACTUALLY. I APOLOGIZE.

TODAY, ARE WE STILL LIMITED TO THE TOW MINUTES? ARE WE STILL RUNNING ON?

>> WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE CBC PRESENTATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT DURING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

LET'S KEEP GOING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE.

>> TRUSTEE LANDRUM, I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT THE BOARD AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OBLIGATION ARE REGARDING PROJECT COMPLETION IN THE EVENT THAT THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS PASS.

TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I REMEMBER IN 2018, THERE WAS A LOT OF ADVOCACY IN THE BOND COMMITTEE FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THEN THERE WAS A LIST. IT WAS A REALLY BETTER THAN I DO.

THERE WAS A LIST.

>> WE REFERRED TO IT AS THE BOARD CONSTITUTION

>> BUT LEGALLY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS ONLY REQUIRED TO BUILD THE AQUATICS FACILITY LEGALLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY ITEM SPECIFICALLY LISTED ON THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE.

BEYOND THAT, THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF LEEWAY TO EITHER DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST OR DO OTHER THINGS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET CLARITY FROM OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT HERE ON WHAT THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT'S LEGAL OBLIGATIONS ARE SHOULD THIS BOARD PASS FOR PROJECT COMPLETION.

>> IS THAT A QUESTION THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ANSWERING AND OPEN?

>> I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT, GENERALLY.

>> IT'S NOT YOU CAN FOLLOW UP IN CLOSED SESSION IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL ADVICE FOR US ON.

>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PROPOSITIONS HAVEN'T BEEN CRAFTED.

THAT'S THE BOARD WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO LIMIT THEIR FLEXIBILITY IN THE USE OF BOND PROCEEDS.

I CAN TELL YOU GENERALLY WHAT PEOPLE DO IS OR WHAT DISTRICTS DO RATHER IS THE GENERAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION TENDS TO BE FAIRLY BROAD.

IF IT IS VERY BROAD, THEN WHETHER THE DISTRICT IS LIMITED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR THE MORE GENERAL LANGUAGE, TYPICALLY SPEAKING, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR THE BROAD PURPOSES THAT ARE ON THE BALLOT.

THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THERE IS A DOCTRINE CALLED THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.

IF YOU ARE SUFFICIENTLY DEFINITIVE WITH VOTERS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND YOU MAKE SOMETHING THAT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A CONTRACT, WHICH IS A FACT QUESTION, THEN YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BE LIMITED TO NOT JUST WHAT'S ON THE BALLOT, BUT WHAT YOU'VE SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO DO, IF YOU'VE PROMISED VOTERS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

MY VIEW IS TYPICALLY THAT STATEMENTS OUTSIDE THIS IS GENERALITIES STILL.

STATEMENTS OUTSIDE THE BALLOT TYPICALLY ARE NOT BINDING.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A FACTUAL SITUATION THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE 2018 BOND ELECTION, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A CONTRACT THERE, AND OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION.

BUT THAT'S GENERALLY THE LANDSCAPE FOR A SCHOOL BOND ISSUE.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I FOLLOW UP?

>> YEAH.

>> JUST TO BE I THINK IF YOU COULD REPEAT, SIR, EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, LANGUAGE THAT IS BEYOND THE BALLOT PROP IS WHAT? THERE'S JUST DISCRETION.

>> IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE BOARD HAS CREATED A CONTRACT WITH VOTERS.

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IF THE BOARD HAS MADE PROMISES THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEN THAT COULD BE BINDING ON THE DISTRICT.

AGAIN, THAT'S A DETERMINATION THEY HAVE TO MAKE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'VE PUT OUT TO VOTERS AND HOW SPECIFIC AND WHAT THE PROMISES ARE THAT YOU'VE MADE OUTSIDE OF THE BALLOT.

>> THE BOARD CAN MAKE A CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS? IT IS UNDER TEXAS CASE LAW, YOU CAN MAKE A CONTRACT WITH VOTERS BASED ON MAKING DEFINITIVE STATEMENTS AND PROMISES OUTSIDE OF YOUR LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

>> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A PART OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT DID THAT?

>> I HAVE RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE CLIENTS WANTED TO BE THAT SPECIFIC, YES.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, TRUSTEES? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

[F. CLOSED SESSION]

WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND TRUSTEES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH GOING INTO THE BACK ROOM, SO EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO I THINK CLOSED SESSION SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SHORT.

THEN WE'LL GO TO CLOSED SESSION IN THE BACK AND AUDIENCE CAN STAY SEATED IN HERE.

PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, THE BOARD WILL MEET TO DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE ON THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR REAL VALUE OF PROPERTY OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, THE BOARD MAY SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE/SALE OF LAND.

ADDITIONALLY, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, THE BOARD WILL SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING POTENTIAL BOND PROPOSITIONS.

IT IS 933, AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

>> ARE WE READY?

>> WE'RE ALMOST. YES.

>> TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE READY. [BACKGROUND] GOOD MORNING.

[G. CALL BACK TO ORDER]

IT IS 10:50, AND WE ARE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTHY DELAY.

WE HAD AN INTERRUPTION BY THE FIRE ALARM.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM. H1 FOR OUR CBC BOND REPORT AND INTRODUCTION.

[H. DISCUSSION ITEMS]

LET ME JUST CLARIFY HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO GO FROM TODAY.

WE HAD A VERY LENGTHY AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD FROM THE CBC COMMITTEE, AND RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION AND THEN GO BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION ACCORDING TO THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT THE CBC OPERATED UNDER.

WE'LL HAVE AN INTRODUCTION AND THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PRESENTATION RIGHT OFF, THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.

WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY, THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CBC PRESENTATION ABOUT CAPITAL RENEWAL, ASK QUESTIONS, ETC.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, TRUSTEES, WITH REGARDS TO QUESTIONS AND TIME ALLOTMENTS.

WE'RE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES ACCORDING TO OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, BUT AS PRESIDING OFFICERS, I CAN MODIFY THAT.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ALLOCATE TWO MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY SO THAT WE EACH GET A TURN, THEN MAKE ANOTHER PASS-THROUGH AND DO THAT UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF QUESTIONS.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE AVOID PHILOSOPHICAL STATEMENTS IN GENERAL.

WE HAVE ALREADY SEVERAL OTHER MEETINGS SCHEDULED.

TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE AND HONOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE, WHICH HAS BEEN VOLUMINOUS.

WE WILL GO THROUGH, TAKE TWO MINUTES FOR EACH TRUSTEE.

WE CAN MAKE ANOTHER PASS THROUGH AND WE'LL DO THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE SUBSECTION OR SUBCOMMITTEE ON THAT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GENERAL FORMAT OF THE MEETING FROM HERE ON? I DON'T SEE ANY.

I AM THRILLED TO INTRODUCE LINDSEY LEDYARD AND FABIAN GUERO, OUR CO-CHAIRS FOR THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE FOR 2024.

I'M GOING TO TIE IN AGENDA ITEM H1 AND H2 TOGETHER.

START YOUR PRESENTATION, YOUR INTRODUCTION, AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO JUST FLOW RIGHT INTO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PORTION, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AFTER THAT FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, BOARD MEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

LINDSEY AND I WERE GIVEN THE TASK OF CO-CHAIRING THE 2024 CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE, AND WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT OUR FINDINGS AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

TODAY'S AGENDA, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE WORK THAT WE DID, THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE PERFORMED, THE BOND BREAKOUT PROPOSITIONS.

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THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEES DISCUSS THEIR FINDINGS.

WE WILL DO A BOND SUMMARY AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TAX AS IT RELATES TO THE RATE AND THE AMOUNT ON THE BOND.

HERE, JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE TRY TO DO IT BY LEADERS FROM THE DIFFERENT LEARNING COMMUNITIES AND THEN INCLUDE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THOSE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A HOLISTIC VIEW OR FEEDBACK WHEN MAKING THE DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOND.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE UP TO NOW IS WE STARTED WITH FIVE DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES; SAFETY AND SECURITY, CAPITAL RENEWAL, FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, GROWTH, AND TECHNOLOGY, AND A LIST THAT INCLUDED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FROM HPM WITH ABOUT 1.2 BILLION.

THIS WAS BEFORE ANY CONSIDERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FIRST INITIAL MEETING.

THIS IS A LITTLE BREAKOUT OF SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED.

YOU SEE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT PARTICIPATED AND THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, WHERE WE STARTED PROJECT-WISE, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS, AND THEN WHERE WE ENDED UP.

THEN EACH SUBCOMMITTEE DID SOME CAMPUS VISITS JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NEEDS WERE.

THE THING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER HERE IS THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE MEMBERS KEPT ITS CONSIDERATION WITH STUDENTS IN MIND.

DISTRICT SURVEYS, PRINCIPAL SURVEYS, AND ALL THAT INFORMATION WAS ALL PART OF THAT PROCESS.

ONCE THE SUBCOMMITTEES MET TOGETHER AND PROVIDED THE INFORMATION, LINDSEY AND I TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECTS, IDENTIFY WHAT THE DUPLICATES WERE, OR TRYING TO REALIGN THINGS THAT WENT TOGETHER.

WE DID MULTIPLE OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY MEETING WITH HPM, [NOISE] DISTRICT LEADERSHIP ADMINS, JUST SO THAT WE COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT THE ASKS WERE, THE FEASIBILITY OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE, AND HOW IT COULD IMPACT THE DISTRICT FINANCIALLY.

THAT'S SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE DID.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MENTION ANYTHING.

>> I'LL JUST SAY THAT SECOND TO LAST BULLET POINT.

WE DID HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS.

AFTER WE HAD THE REPORTS FROM OUR COMMITTEES, AFTER WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THOSE PROJECTS, FAB AND I HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS, MANY HOURS IN LENGTH GOING THROUGH EVERY PROJECT AND THEN FLAGGING THEM, TAGGING IN DISTRICT STAFF, GETTING ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION AND QUESTIONS FROM SOME OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEES.

IT WAS AN ARDUOUS PROCESS, BUT IT WAS VERY DETAILED.

IT WASN'T JUST THAT WE RECEIVED A PROJECT LIST AND THEN THERE WAS THIS RUBBER STAMP AND HERE YOU GO.

THERE WAS A DETAILED REVIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DISSECTED THAT INFORMATION AND THEN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT STUDENTS, BUT ALSO THE DISTRICT.

EACH SUBCOMMITTEE MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CAME TOGETHER AND THEN WE PRESENTED TO THE REST OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND WITHIN THOSE MEETINGS, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, HEY, FROM A DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEE, WHAT CAN WE DO THIS OR THAT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE CEDAR RIDGE AND STONY POINT CLASSROOM UTILIZATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO PORTABLES.

LINDSEY AND I FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO UPDATE FROM A PRIORITY PERSPECTIVE TO A P1.

THAT'S WHAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES.

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ALSO AS STONY POINT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DANCE SUITE.

THAT IS NEEDED THERE, THAT IS COMPARABLE TO MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL SO THAT WE HAD THAT EQUITY IN MIND.

THEN FINALLY, THERE WAS A PROJECT REQUEST TO A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AT DEER PARK.

IN TALKING WITH HPM, WE REALIZED THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE BETTER DO IT RIGHT.

THAT INCREASED THE FUNDING OR THE COST FOR THAT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROJECT, BUT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> THE NEXT SECTION, JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.

WE HAD LEGAL EARLIER TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT BOND PROPOSITION BREAKOUTS, TECHNOLOGY, AND OUR PROPOSALS, IF YOU GUYS DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISTRICTWIDE CTE CENTER, THAT THAT BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.

THEN ATHLETICS AND PERFORMING ARTS WOULD HAVE TO BE ITS OWN PROPOSITION AS WELL.

I DID THINK THAT THE LEGAL EXPLANATION AROUND ATHLETICS WAS GOOD CLARIFICATION TO GET.

THEN I ASKED A QUESTION RIGHT BEFORE HE WENT INTO CLOSE WITH YOU GUYS WAS FOR DRAGON STADIUM.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS.

EVEN IF YOU GUYS GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, ANY OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR DRAGON STADIUM WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.

I ASKED THEM WHAT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF RENOVATION, AND IT'S REALLY ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO TOUCH THAT.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE FULL PROJECT, ANYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.

THE CURRENT TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL PROP IS 874 MILLION.

AS FABIAN MENTIONED, THAT DIFFERENCE, THAT CHANGE FROM THE MEETING IN JUNE WHEN WE PRESENTED PRIMARILY HAS TO DO WITH THE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE WERE REPORTING ON WHAT THE P1 RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

HAVING CEDAR RIDGE GO FROM A P3 TO A P1 BROUGHT THAT INTO SCOPE FOR THIS TOTAL.

THEN WE ENDED UP RECOMMENDING THE ADDITION FOR STONY POINT BASED ON THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS FOR THAT CAMPUS.

THE DEER PARK ONE WAS A SURPRISE.

WE KNEW THE PROJECT WAS OUT THERE, BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE WERE REVIEWING THE PROJECTS, THERE WAS A MUCH SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THERE AND WE BOTH LOOK [INAUDIBLE] LIKE, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ENOUGH FOR A BRIDGE.

THEN WE GOT WITH HPM AND WITH DISTRICT TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY AND THE SITE AND ALL OF THAT USING GOOGLE EARTH.

THAT ENDED UP COMING IN MUCH HIGHER.

IT WENT UP FROM ABOUT 750,000, WAS JUST THE PLACEHOLDER THAT WAS THERE AND THE ACTUAL ESTIMATE, THEN, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT, YOU'LL NOTE IN THE PROJECT IS 15 MILLION.

TECHNOLOGY WHEN WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME, IT WAS BEFORE WE HAD GOTTEN OUR FINAL REPORTS, AND THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT WEREN'T LISTED AS HIGH PRIORITY, AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 149 MILLION AND THE 145.

THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT ONE OF YOU SUBMITTED ABOUT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF MEDIUM PROJECTS WITH NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHY WE CHOSE, AS CO-CHAIRS, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT AS A HIGH PRIORITY.

IT REALLY HAD TO DO WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED AMONG THE FULL LEADERSHIP OF THE CBC.

WHILE THERE WERE MORE MEDIUMS IN THE ORIGINAL 149 MILLION, WE DID RETAIN A COUPLE OF THOSE NETWORKING PROJECTS BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IN THE DISTRICT OF OUR NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEN THE CTE CENTER, NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THAT AMOUNT SINCE LAST TIME AND SAME WITH THE ATHLETICS PROPOSITION, IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH.

>> BEFORE WE GO TO SAFETY AND SECURITY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR US?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON.

>> AT THIS POINT, WE WANT TO CALL DR. GONZALEZ TO SPEAK ON SAFETY AND SECURITY.

>> I DO WANT TO SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAMERA IS VIEWING.

THIS GENTLEMAN TO OUR RIGHT HERE IS SCOTT LEOPOLD AND HE IS WITH HPM.

HE HAS BEEN OUR PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT AND RESOURCE WITH HELPING FIGURE OUT WHAT IS

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THE ESTIMATED COST FOR PROJECTS AND WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN ALL THE DEFICIENCY ANALYSES.

HE'S HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR LANDRUM, SUPERINTENDENT AZAIEZ, AND TRUSTEES.

GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND ALL YOUR LEADERSHIP TO THE DISTRICT.

I WANT TO COMMEND LINDSEY AND FABIAN BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU SEE THAT DIRECTLY, ALL THE HOURS THAT THEY'VE PUT IN TERMS OF LEADING THIS EFFORT, IT'S A LOT.

I KNOW JUST FROM THE SUBSECTION THAT I WORKED WITH MY CO-CHAIR JILL FARRIS, I WANT TO GIVE HER CREDIT AS WELL, KNOWING THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT IT TAKES TO, LET'S JUST SAY CRAWL THE CATS.

IT'S A LITTLE EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO CHIEF GRIFFITH, AND, OF COURSE, DR. GUERRERO, AND MY PHONE A FRIEND FOR THE DAY.

I'M ABOUT TO MAKE YOU A DOCTOR.

RICHARD ANDRATUCI. [LAUGHTER] SAFETY AND SECURITY.

AS WE KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT IN TERMS OF MASLOW'S HIERARCHY OF NEEDS.

IN ORDER FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, TO FEEL ENGAGED, TO FEEL WELCOMED, THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY, OF COURSE, IS INTEGRAL IN TERMS OF THEIR DAY-TO-DAY INTERACTIONS, BOTH IN CAMPUS AND AROUND CAMPUS WHEN IT COMES TO EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

YOU'LL SEE THE ITEMS THAT WE PUT FORTH HERE MOSTLY HAVE STAYED THE SAME IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS REPORTED OUT IN JUNE.

OF NOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF INCREASES AND DECREASES.

THE INCREASES WERE A RESULT OF GOING BACK AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE NEEDS OF FIRE PANELS.

WHAT WE'VE FOUND AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT SOME OF OUR FIRE PANELS AND FIRE SYSTEMS ARE OUTDATED AND NEED TO BE IMPROVED TO ENSURE THAT TIMELINESS, THE RESPONSIVENESS IS GOING TO THE CORRECT PLACE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE TUNING IN, WE HAD A FIRE ALARM HERE EARLIER.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING ANECDOTALLY.

AGAIN, THIS IS FROM A THIRD-PERSON CONVERSATION.

>> THERE WAS SMOKE IN ONE BUILDING, AN ALARM IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING WENT OFF.

THOSE THINGS ARE ISSUES THAT COME WITH DATED INFORMATION SYSTEMS. THIS WOULD ENSURE THAT THOSE MINIMAL HURDLES, WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSE TIMES ARE MITIGATED.

THAT'S WHY IT'S AN INCREASE.

IN PARTICULAR, THE INCREASES THAT THE COMPANY IN WHICH ROUND ROCK ISD WORKS WITH IS A OLDER COMPANY OR I BELIEVE WAS BOUGHT OUT, AND NOW IN INSTANCE TO UPDATE CURRENT FACILITIES OR CURRENT SYSTEMS, WE WILL NEED TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT COMPANY TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WITH.

THAT'S PART OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

NOW THE DECREASE WHEN IT COMES TO GENERAL SAFETY AND OPERATIONS AS A RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND PA SYSTEM NEEDS, THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS OF DISTRICT LEADS OR CAMPUS LEADS SAYING THAT THEY NEEDED UPDATING OF THEIR PA SYSTEMS THROUGH A THOROUGH CONVERSATION AND VETTING.

WE FOUND OUT THAT THOSE ARE EITHER ITEMS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH NOT NECESSARILY COMPLETE UPDATE, BUT MAYBE A SMALL TWEAK HERE AND THERE OR IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY RISE TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE WERE CONSIDERING FOR A BOND PROJECT.

IN TOTALITY, YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF THREE MILLION, BUT THAT'S, SAY, BOTH DECLINE AND INCREASE IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. HERE JUST LISTENING OUT, AGAIN, WHAT FALLS INTO THE VARIOUS BUCKETS THAT WE DISCUSSED AS A SAFETY AND SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE GROUP.

HB3 ITEMS, THE TEA PHYSICAL SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY, GENERAL SAFETY, OPERATIONS, AND GENERAL DEFICIENCIES.

MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO IN DEPTH IN TERMS OF WHAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED SOME OF THIS REPORT ALREADY, AND HAVE HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATIONS, SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS, BUT MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE ITEMS IN WHICH ROUND ROCK ISD, AS WITH OTHER ISDS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, ARE MANDATED TO HAVE.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THESE MANDATES ARE UNFUNDED.

IN ORDER FOR THE DISTRICT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE TO LIVE UP TO THE SPIRIT OF SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS IN ENSURING SAFETY AND SECURITY ACROSS THE DISTRICT, WILL NEED TO MEET THAT NEED THROUGH, AGAIN, EITHER BOND FUNDS OR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

AS WE KNOW, THERE ARE ALREADY LIMITED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS DOLLARS THAT CAN TACKLE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

WHETHER IT'S FENCING OR WHETHER IT'S OUTFITTING

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ADDITIONAL POLICE AS WE TRY TO ENSURE A CAMPUS THAT IS SAFE AND SECURE IN TERMS OF IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OUTFITTING OF OFFICERS OR INCREASING OF FENCING OR ANY OTHER ITEM RELATED TO THAT.

AGAIN, SOME OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MEET THROUGH THIS BOND OPPORTUNITY.

I'LL GO FURTHER IN DEPTH, BUT TRY NOT TO GO TOO IN DEPTH.

THESE ARE QUICK BULLET POINTS.

OF COURSE, HB3 COMPELS SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OFFICER ON EACH CAMPUS, AND THAT IS AT MINIMUM.

WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE DISTRICT, AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A BEST PRACTICE, ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE CAMPUSES, IS THAT, YOU NEED MULTIPLE OFFICERS TO REALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WITH THAT, THERE WILL BE AN EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL NEED TO HIRE TRAIN AND EQUIP 70 PLUS OFFICERS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO COMPLY.

TEA PHYSICAL SAFETY AND SECURITY NEEDS, OF COURSE, THIS IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT FENCING.

FENCING AS THEY HAVE INDICATED IS MORE THAN JUST COSMETIC.

THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF NEEDING TO BE UNSCALABLE FENCE AT A CERTAIN HEIGHT.

NOW, OF COURSE, THERE ARE WIGGLE ROOMS IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK IN TERMS OF A, LET'S JUST SAY, INSTITUTIONAL FEEL THAT THERE CAN BE SOME THOUGHTFULNESS IN TERMS OF HOW THAT IS PUT FORTH SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT STUDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ATTENDING AN INSTITUTION THAT REALLY IS SERVING THEM, AND NOT NECESSARILY CORRALLING THEM IN A WAY THAT IS UNHUMANIZING, I'LL JUST SAY, QUITE FRANKLY, BUT IT'S STILL A REQUIREMENT.

WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT, YES, THERE ARE SOME CAMPUSES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT THEY'RE UP TO 50 CAMPUSES OR 40 CAMPUS, I BELIEVE, AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT REQUIRED LEVEL OF ATTENTION TO BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE.

TRANSPORTATION SAFETY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ALTHOUGH I THINK A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT ROUND ROCK ISD OPERATIONALIZES A FLEET OF 250 BUSES.

THAT IS A MASSIVE NUMBER OF BUSES THAT ARE SOME BRAND NEW AND SOME A LITTLE BIT DATED.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE BRAND NEW, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SAFETY SCOPES TO BE FUNCTIONAL IN TERMS OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS AND PARENTS, AND THOSE EVEN FACULTY AND STAFF, WHO ARE ON THOSE BUSES, WHETHER IT BE FOR AN EVENT OR A FIELD TRIP.

THESE BUSES WILL NEED THE SMART TAG TABLETS, AND OF COURSE, SECURITY CAMERAS TO ENSURE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL RIDERS.

GENERAL OPERATIONS CAN REALLY COMPOSE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT EACH CAMPUS NEEDS, BASED OFF OF CONVERSATIONS WITH CAMPUS LEADERS.

THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE HANDHELD RADIOS THAT OFTENTIMES ARE THE BIGGEST POINT OF CONNECTION BETWEEN ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS, AND ARE USED DAILY, AND ARE CRITICAL IN TERMS OF ENSURING THE SEAMLESS OPERATION OF A CAMPUS.

BUT WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION, THERE WAS ALSO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CAMERAS.

IN PARTICULAR, YES, THERE IS CAMERAS ON OUR CAMPUSES, BUT THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS, NOT JUST POINTING INWARDS, IN TERMS OF ENSURING THAT MONITORING OF THE SAFETY OF EACH CORRIDOR OR STAIRWELL OR ENSURING THAT, AGAIN, THINGS CAN BE MONITORED IN A WAY THAT QUICK RESPONSE, BUT FACING OUTWARDS AS WELL.

WITH THAT, CAMPUS LEADERS HAVE EXPRESSED THE REQUEST, IF POSSIBLE, TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS.

BUT WITHIN THAT, THERE'S ALSO A CONVERSATION OF SERVERS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO WITH HAVING THESE BE NOT JUST UP, BUT CONNECTED AND SECURED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PRIVACY IS PARAMOUNT AS WELL.

WITHIN THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE BULLET POINT WITH REGARDS TO PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM.

THEN LASTLY, THE CAMPUS FACILITY NEEDS.

OF COURSE, HPM DID A GREAT JOB OF IDENTIFYING THE VARIOUS ITEMS ACROSS ALL THE CAMPUSES THAT REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF ADDRESSING, WHETHER THAT IS DOORS, WHETHER THAT IS CEILINGS, WHETHER THAT IS, YOU NAME IT, IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY RELATED TO OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES,

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BUT THEN THERE ARE ALSO ITEMS THAT ARE MORE RELATED TO, AGAIN, SAFETY AND SECURITY.

TAKING THAT LIST, IDENTIFYING THE P1 THROUGH P3 PRIORITIES, WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THERE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

SPECIFICALLY, THE LARGEST AMOUNT ARE RELATED TO FIRE ALARM PANELS AND SECURITY COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS TO HELP ENSURE, AGAIN, RESPONSE CAN BE ADEQUATE AND IMMEDIATE.

A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE JUST A BY-PRODUCT OF FUNCTIONAL AGE.

SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE REACHED THEIR END OF LIFE IN TERMS OF, THE COST OF REPAIRING THEM NO LONGER BECOMES THE EFFICIENT USE OF FUNDS.

YOU OFTEN TIMES NEED TO DO A COMPLETE UPHEAVAL OF THE SET PROJECTS.

IN TOTAL, SAFETY AND SECURITY, PRIORITY 1 ITEMS IS REFLECTED RIGHT THERE AT ROUGHLY $65 MILLION.

>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO SAY TRUSTEES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING SAFETY AND SECURITY? I THINK I SAW YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON, BUT THE LIGHT DIDN'T GO ON, SO TRUSTEE WERE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I KNOW IT TAKES SO MUCH TO BE ON ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES.

I JUST HAD, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.

>> BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, CAN I ACTUALLY MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT? FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, THE BOARD DID SUBMIT, I THINK,12 PAGES OF QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

ADDITIONALLY, ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL HAVE A DOCUMENT ENTITLED CO-CHAIRS FINAL REPORT.

IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT REPORT, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 36 PAGES LONG, AT THE END OF IT, THERE'S SOME HYPERLINKS.

ONE OF THEM IS TO A DETAILED PROJECT LIST, WHICH WE WILL BE REFERRING TO PROBABLY QUITE EXTENSIVELY.

IF YOU WANT TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT DETAILED PROJECT LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, SAY, DISTRICT WIDE PROJECT NUMBER 40, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT REPORT, CLICK ON THAT HYPERLINK, AND I'LL TAKE YOU TO THE DETAILED PROJECT LIST.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AHEAD OF TIME, SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THAT. GO AHEAD.

>> MINE IS JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT THE SILENT ALERT SYSTEM.

IN JUST LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS UNDER THE TEA REQUIRED.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT SILENT ALERT SYSTEM FOR 3.0 MILLION REQUIRED OVER AND ABOVE THE PANIC BUTTONS WE HAVE IN THE CLASSROOM?

>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH REGARDS TO THE PANIC BUTTON IS MEETING THE LETTER OF THE LAW, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW.

WITH REGARDS TO HOW IT'S CURRENTLY OPERATED, IT'S A PHONE PROCESS, AND WITHIN THE PHONE, YOU HIT A BUTTON, AND THAT ALLOWS FOR ADEQUATE RESPONSE.

AGAIN, THAT HELPS US BE IN COMPLIANCE.

BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL BEST PRACTICE IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, WHETHER THAT BE SOMETHING AS DRASTIC AS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER OR SOMEBODY NEEDING SUPPORT TO ADDRESS A CONFLICT THAT IS OCCURRING.

THERE ARE OTHER MORE EXPEDIENT OPTIONS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR QUICKER RESPONSE TIMES.

THAT PRICE IS TO PURCHASE A NEW SYSTEM THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT.

>> JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD THAT THE QUESTION SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT. SORRY.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT WOULD BE, IN THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, IT WAS THAT DISTRICT EMPLOYEES WOULD WEAR THIS ON THEIR ID.

WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE COST OF THAT AFTER THEIR PURCHASE? IS OUR SOFTWARE UPDATES, AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE OLD ENOUGH THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY CONNECTIVITY IN SOME OF OUR OLDER SCHOOLS WHERE WE NEED REPEATERS.

HOW WOULD THAT WORK WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE ID BADGES?

>> THAT MIGHT POSSIBLY GO TO STAFF, EITHER DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND SECURITY OR CFO OF ONGOING, UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

>> I'M GOING TO PHONE A FRIEND TO USE A VERY DATED.

>> YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFELINE. YOU USED IT EARLY.

>> I KNOW I USED IT. SO I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT ONE.

>> THERE'S NO ONGOING COST FOR FIVE YEARS.

THE QUOTE THAT WE USE IS JUST FOR ONE COMPANY.

THERE'S SEVERAL OUT THERE.

I JUST TOOK LIKE THE BIGGEST COMPANY THAT WAS OUT THERE JUST TO GET A BALLPARK, AND THE QUOTE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US, THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL COST OR EXPENSES FOR FIVE YEARS.

AFTER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE COULD RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

IT'LL PROBABLY MUCH CHEAPER IF WE GO WITH IT AND WE STAY WITH THEM, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE THE PURCHASE OF ALL THE HARDWARE, ALL THE BADGES, AND ANY SERVICE THAT WE MAY NEED DURING THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

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>> MADAM CHAIR, MY FOLLOW UP IS, DOES IT WORK ON WI-FI? I KNOW IN WESTWOOD, I KNOW IN MCNEIL, WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS WHERE WE NEED REPEATERS TO GET RADIOS TO WORK.

HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMMUNICATE?

>> THESE ARE STANDALONE SYSTEMS. PART OF THAT THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY'S 3.8 OR $9 MILLION IS, THEY ACTUALLY RUN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL THE SCHOOLS, AND IT DOES CONNECT TO THE WI-FI AT AT SOME POINT, BUT THEY RUN THEIR OWN REPEATERS THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL, THROUGHOUT THE PARKING LOTS, AT ALL THE STADIUM SO THAT NO MATTER WHERE ON THAT CAMPUS OR ROUND ROCK ISD PROPERTY, THAT EMPLOYEE'S BADGE WILL CONNECT, SO TO SPEAK, AND WHEN THEY HIT IT, IT'LL LET THEM KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

WHEN THEY'RE IN THE SCHOOL, IT'S ACCURATE WITHIN LIKE THREE FEET.

IF THEY'RE AT DRAGON STADIUM OR IN THE PARKING LOT, IT JUST GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE THAT PERSON IS.

>> THEN ONE LAST FOLLOW-UP, MADAM CHAIR, IS WHAT PREVENTS ACCIDENTAL CALLS TO 911 FROM HAPPENING? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WEARING THIS, IF A STUDENT WERE TO GRAB IT, WHAT SAFEGUARDS DOES IT HAVE?

>> SURE. THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM, YOU HIT THE BUTTON THREE TIMES, AND IT'LL ALERT THE LOWEST LEVEL THAT WE SET IT TO.

YOU CAN SET THAT THREE TIMES WILL ALERT JUST THE ADMIN OFFICE AT THE SCHOOL AND OUR DISPATCH CENTER.

IF YOU HIT FIVE TIMES QUICKLY, THEN IT'LL ALERT THE NEXT LEVEL THAT WE SET IT TO, WHICH WE CAN SET IT TO ALERT THE OFFICE AT THAT SCHOOL, THE ROUND ROCK PD DISPATCH, AND THEN OUR ROUND ROCK ISD PD DISPATCH, AND THEN WILLIAMSON COUNTY'S DISPATCH CENTER TOO.

THE AMOUNT OF FALSE ALARMS IS PRETTY LOW, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO HIT IT, LIKE I SAID, FIVE TIMES WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP SINCE WE'RE ON THAT PROJECT.

WE HAVE THE SALIC PANIC SYSTEM, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE EVERY STAFF MEMBER GETTING A HANDHELD RADIO.

HOW ARE THOSE SEPARATE, AND HOW DID THOSE SECURITY FEATURES OVERLAP? DID YOUR COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT THAT, DR. GONZALEZ?

>> WE DIDN'T GET IN TOO MANY SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE VIEW THE CAMPUS RADIOS AS INTERCONNECTED WITH OTHER FOLKS WITHIN THE CAMPUS, A CERTAIN RADIO SIGNAL.

THIS PROJECT, IN PARTICULAR, IN TERMS OF SAFETY ALARMS ALLOWS FOR THAT IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM, AGAIN, WHETHER THAT'S WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WHETHER THAT'S ROUND ROCK, WHETHER THAT'S SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT WOULD HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CRITICAL NEEDS.

>> YES. BUT WE KNOW THAT SOME THERE'S A SMALL LEVEL OF REDUNDANCIES, BUT IN ESSENCE OF EMERGENCY CONTACT, REDUNDANCIES ENSURE SECURITY.

>> I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE REDUNDANCY, I JUST WONDERED IF YOUR COMMITTEE HAD EVALUATED THOSE TWO OPTIONS TOGETHER OR IF THEY WERE SO LOAD.

>> I THINK JUST TO JUSTIFY THE RADIO.

CAN I SAY SOME OF THE RADIO? USUALLY THE RADIO ONLY CERTAIN STAFF MEMBERS GET THE RADIOS.

THAT'S USUALLY THE APS, THE COUNSELORS, OR CERTAIN STAFF MEMBERS.

>> I THOUGHT THAT THIS BOND ITEM ALLOWED FOR ALL STAFF TO GET A RADIO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NOT YET.

>> JUST ADMIN.

>> THAT $800,000 IS JUST TO ADDRESS THE RADIO NEEDS THAT EACH CAMPUSES HAS SET THAT THEY HAVE.

SOME OF THEM ARE ON VERY OLD SYSTEMS, SOME ARE ON NEWER SYSTEMS. SOME ARE BROKEN.

CURRENTLY, AND DOCTOR YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

IF A SCHOOL HAS AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF THEIR HANDHELDS, IT HAS TO COME OUT OF THAT SCHOOL'S BUDGET.

THIS WAY, WE CAN COME IN AND REFRESH ALL OF THEM AND LET EVERYBODY START WITH AT LEAST KNOWING THAT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE WORKS FOR WHATEVER SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE START THIS WITH.

>> THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE RADIO BECAUSE ALSO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO NEW POLICE RADIO.

WHAT DO YOU CALL IT RICH ENTER.

>> PROBABILITY?

>> YES. WE CAN MAYBE FIGURE OUT IF THIS GOES THROUGH WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAN MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW OUR POLICE CAN TALK. YES, EXACTLY.

>> THEN MY LAST FOLLOW UP ABOUT THAT IS, DO WE HAVE A POLICY CURRENTLY IN THE DISTRICT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL STAFF MEMBER CALLING 911? WHAT IS THE TYPICAL PROCEDURE? CAN A TEACHER JUST IN THE CLASSROOM CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY, OR DO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION? WHAT IS OUR CURRENT POLICY OR PROCEDURES AROUND THAT?

>> WELL, ANYBODY CAN CALL 911, OBVIOUSLY.

IF THERE'S A REALLY, SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL 911 BECAUSE MAYBE THERE IS STUDENTS WHO BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO A TEACHER.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT A 911.

THAT'S WHEN THEY CALL THE ADMINISTRATION,

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BUT IF ANY TRUE EMERGENCY, WHERE THEY NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR MAYBE THERE'S A MEDICAL SITUATION THAT, EVERYBODY CAN CALL 911.

THEN WE HAVE THE PANIC BUTTON THAT WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHING.

THAT'S PART OF HOUSE BILL 3, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY JANUARY OF 2025.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THAT SET UP, AS OUR DISTRICT IS LAUNCHING THAT THIS FALL.

WE ARE GOING TO GO BE TRAINING OUR TEACHERS AND PRINCIPALS.

THEY'LL HAVE A BUTTON IN THEIR PHONES BECAUSE EVERY CLASSROOM HAS A PHONE, AND THAT BUTTON WILL CALL 9112 AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. SINCE I STARTED, I'LL GO AHEAD AND FINISH MY TWO MINUTES ON THIS ROUND.

AGENDA ITEMS 36-43 ARE ALL. [OVERLAPPING] OH, I'M SORRY.

>> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE ANOTHER ANSWER.

JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS IF 911 IS CALLED FROM ANY OF OUR DISTRICT PHONES, AUTOMATICALLY, WE ARE AWARE OF IT.

OUR POLICE AND DISPATCHER ARE AWARE OF IT, AND SO THEY'RE ABLE THEN TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CHECK INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING.

ALSO, IF 911 IS CALLED AND FROM SOMEONE'S PERSONAL DEVICE, THEN IT'S A MATTER OF THAT ENTITY INTERACTS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SO WE'RE AWARE OF IT AS WELL.

IT'S NOT AN INTEGRATED PROCESS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE CAMPUS.

IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM, IT ALWAYS COMES BACK WHERE WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, SO WE'RE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROCESS WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE.

BUT IT DOESN'T STOP SOMEONE FOR IF THEY SEE AN EMERGENCY TO WHERE THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY CALL THAT OUT AND GET IN TOUCH WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

MY NEXT ONE IS ON DISTRICT WIDE PROJECTS 36-43.

THOSE ARE THE UNFUNDED MANDATES FOR HOUSE BILL 3, AND THE TA SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE THAT ARE WONDERING.

IT TOTALS ABOUT 28.5 MILLION.

PHILOSOPHICALLY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PASSING ALONG UNFUNDED MANDATES TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR THAT THE LEGISLATURE MAKES THESE MANDATES AND SAYS YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT MY CONCERN IS, GOD FORBID, THIS BOND WERE NOT TO PASS.

WE STILL HAVE THESE SECURITY AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT WOULD BE THE OPTION IF WE DON'T PUT IT IN A BOND? WHAT WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS FOR MEETING THESE MANDATES AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T? BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH PASSING THAT ADDITIONAL TAX BURDEN ONTO OUR TAXPAYERS.

>> AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, WE HAD TO BRING A WAIVER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE COULDN'T MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN ONE YEAR.

WE HAD TO BRING A WAIVER TO OUR BOARD AND LET THEM KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SEVERAL YEARS TO GET THERE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, ANYTHING WE CANNOT GET THROUGH THE BOND.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE TA IS SAYING IS THAT IF YOUR BOARD IS ASKING, IF APPROVING A WAIVER, AND THAT'S USUALLY BECAUSE YOU CANNOT FUND POLICE OFFICER, YOU CANNOT STAFF ADEQUATELY LIKE THE WAY THEY WANT US TO STAFF, OR BECAUSE YOU CANNOT FUND IT, YOU CANNOT FUND THE RESOURCES, THEN YOU CAN TAKE THIS WAIVER TO THE BOARD AND HAVE THE BOARD APPROVE IT.

AS LONG AS THE BOARD APPROVES THE WAIVER, THEN THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCES FROM TA.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO PUNISH YOU IF YOU DON'T DO IT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS PRETTY MUCH.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE KNOW THERE MAY NOT BE THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES FROM TA, BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN AND THE BOARD IS AWARE OF IT AND ALSO APPROVING WHATEVER WAIVER WE ARE SUBMITTING, OR WE HAVE IN PLACE.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF ONE DAY, THEY SAID, YOU MUST DO IT AND WILL BE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DON'T, THEN IN THAT CASE, WE HAVE NO OTHER OPTION, BUT TO USE OUR M&OS REALLY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT AND PURCHASE AND PAY FOR SALARIES FOR OUR EXTRA STAFF THAT WE MAY END UP HIRING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TRUSTEE MARKUM, YOUR LIGHTS ON.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE TOO.

I KNOW DR. GONZALEZ, YOU'RE A TRUSTEE ON YOUR OWN BOARD ON TOP OF YOUR DAY JOB, BUT YOU'RE HERE AS A PARENT, AND SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME.

THIS IS A GENERAL QUESTION FOR THE CHAIRS OR ADMINISTRATION, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD GET A LIST OF ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO WERE SURVEYED AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS NEED TO GO INTO THE BOND.

I KNOW THAT PRINCIPALS WERE SURVEYED, BUT THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF.

I DON'T NEED NAMES, JUST WHAT POSITIONS WERE SURVEYED AS FAR AS THE NEEDS FOR A BOND GOES.

THEN I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON MY QUESTION ABOUT HB3 MANDATES AND POLICE OFFICERS AND OUTFITTING THE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS WE WOULD NEED TO MEET THAT MANDATE.

I KNOW ONE OF THE GREATEST COSTS ON THAT IS THE VEHICLES THAT EACH OF OUR OFFICERS GETS.

I WANTED TO KNOW IF WITHIN OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN OR UNDER THE MANDATE, DOES EACH OFFICER HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN VEHICLE? DOES THAT VEHICLE GO HOME WITH THEM, OR IS THERE A PLACE WHERE THAT STAYS ON CAMPUS?

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WHAT ARE THE COST INCURRED WITH EACH POLICE OFFICER HAVING THEIR OWN VEHICLE? IS THAT TRULY NECESSARY? I'M HONESTLY ASKING, I'M NOT SAYING I'M FOR OR AGAINST IT.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS.

>> RIGHT NOW AS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, EVERY OFFICER DOES GET A VEHICLE.

THE VEHICLE CURRENTLY DOES GO WITH THEM.

THERE ARE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE ONE OR TWO VEHICLES THAT ARE SERVING AS THE EXTRA BECAUSE IN ESSENCE, THERE'S ALWAYS ONE VEHICLE THAT HAS MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THESE VEHICLES.

THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD IS THAT THE RATIONALE IS THAT YOU WANT TO ENSURE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TIMES AND OFTENTIMES, WHETHER IT'S JUST GETTING FROM ONE SIDE OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL TO ANOTHER SIDE OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, OR JUST HAVING OFFICERS ATTEND, OR RESPOND TO A DIFFERENT CAMPUS IF AN EVENT IS ONGOING.

THAT'S PART OF THE RATIONALE OF WHY THERE IS A ONE TO ONE CURRENT OPERATION MODEL.

WITH THAT SAID, CLEARLY, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HELD WITH DECISIONS ARE MADE BY ADMINISTRATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE HAS BEEN EXPLORED IN TERMS OF THE USAGE OF VEHICLES, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT TO ENSURE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TIME, THE NEED FOR ONE TO ONE IS PARAMOUNT THERE.

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER QUESTION THERE THAT I DIDN'T ANSWER.

>> WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE COST INCURRED.

THE PROJECTED COST THAT WE'RE SEEING, DOES THAT INCLUDE WHAT IT COSTS FOR OFFICERS TO TAKE THAT VEHICLE HOME? DO THEY DRIVE THAT AFTER HOURS AND HOW DOES ALL OF THAT WORK?

>> THE COST OF THE VEHICLE IS BASED OFF OF THE SPECS NEEDED TO HAVE THOSE VEHICLES BE UP TO STANDARD OF SERVING AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE.

WITH THAT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UPGRADES THAT ARE NEEDED IN TERMS OF ENSURING THAT THE VEHICLE CAN AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE WEAR AND TEAR, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT DRIVING OF THEM.

IF THESE WERE JUST THE BASELINE MODELS, WE WOULD HAVE LARGER ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT NEED FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.

THIS HELPS MEET THE NEED OF FITTING THOSE VEHICLES TO AGAIN, MEET THE WORK THAT IS DONE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.

NOW, THAT IS BASED OFF OF I FORGET WHAT THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING THAT WE USED THE COST ESTIMATE, BUT THAT IS BASED OFF OF A FULL, I GUESS, SPEC, SO TO SPEAK.

THERE MAY BE ROOM TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THOSE PRICES DOWN.

I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT IN ESSENCE, TO FIT THESE VEHICLES TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT IN A LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD EACH VEHICLE COSTS.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S ALSO REALLY NO AFTER HOURS.

I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE HAVE TO BE READY TO RESPOND AT ANY TIME, EVEN WHEN OUR STAFF MAY NOT BE HERE, THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS GOING ON, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY FLEXIBILITY IN WIGGLE ROOM AND THAT COST BECAUSE HB3 IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, AND IF WE'RE PASSING THAT ONTO THE TAXPAYERS, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT FLEXIBILITY.

>> THERE'S ALWAYS FLEXIBILITY.

REMEMBER, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS STILL RELATIVELY NEW.

WE HAVE ABOUT 27, 28 OFFICERS.

JUST TO DR. GONZALEZ POINT, THEY NEED TO BE MOBILE RIGHT FOR MANY REASONS.

BUT IF WE ARE GROWING UP OUR POLICE FORCE TO MEET HOUSE BILL 3, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 70 OFFICERS OR SO.

THERE WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WHETHER DO EVERY OFFICER, FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED A VEHICLE OR NOT.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS ALSO WE COMPETING FOR OFFICERS WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OTHER AGENCIES ARE PROVIDING THAT VEHICLE TO EVERY OFFICER, THEN IS THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO I GUESS BE AN ISSUE FOR US HIRING QUALITY OFFICERS TO JOIN OUR FORCE? IS THAT MAKE SENSE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THAT STUFF.

IF THEY NEED VEHICLE, DO THEY NEED TO HAVE THE TOWS VEHICLES? MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE A SEDANS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALL THIS CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S ROOM TO HAVE ALL THIS CONVERSATION, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, IF YOU WILL.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.

MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION I HAD ASKED ABOUT FENCING, AND MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS FROM A SPECIAL EDUCATION PARENT PERSPECTIVE, HAVING ALL ELEMENTARY PLAYGROUNDS FENCED

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BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR SCHOOLS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.

I KNOW YOU SENT A LIST, BUT THAT LIST WENT TO A LIST OF VEHICLES AND I THINK THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND JUST GENERALLY WHAT SCHOOLS ARE ON THAT LIST.

IS IT THE REST OF THE ELEMENTARIES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT OR THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, HIGH SCHOOLS, AND IT'S SIMPLY THE TA REQUIREMENT?

>> EVERY SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE SOME FENCING ADDED TO IT.

SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST FENCING IN THE PLAYGROUNDS.

BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS WHERE THE PLAYGROUNDS ARE OUT FRONT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT, AND THAT MAKES IT A MORE DIFFICULT EXERCISE, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE.

OUR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH SCHOOLS ARE ADDRESSING THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSE TO PUBLIC BUS STOPS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO CLEARLY DELINEATE WHERE THE SCHOOL STARTS AND MAYBE LIKE THE CITY EASEMENTS START SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT CROSS TRAFFIC AND THEN FENCING AROUND PORTABLES SO THAT THE FOLKS IN THE PORTABLES FEEL A LITTLE SAFER.

BUT THERE WILL BE SOME FENCING ADDRESSED AT EVERY CAMPUS, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN DOWN TO THE MINUTIA OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AROUND PLAYGROUNDS PER SE.

FOR TA, THE GOAL BEHIND THIS IS TO MAKE IT WHERE YOU CLEARLY ONLY HAVE ONE MAIN ENTRANCE POINT FOR THE SCHOOL.

THAT WAY, SOME OF THESE TA AUDITS WE HAVE WHERE THEY FIND A DOOR THAT IS OPEN OR PROPPED.

IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE, THAT DOESN'T COUNT ANYMORE.

REALLY, IT'LL LIMIT THE EXPOSURE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE STILL GOING TO PUSH TO KEEP THE DOORS CLOSED.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S THE SAFEST THING.

BUT IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC COULDN'T ACCESS, THEN IT'S NOT QUITE AS BIG OF A RISK AS KEEPING THAT FRONT AREA WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE FUNNELING VISITORS TO THAT FRONT DOOR.

>> THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST FYI, I MAY BE ON AND OFF THE DIAS AS I'M DEALING WITH A PERSONAL MATTER, AND WHEN I'M OFF, I'M ABLE TO LISTEN IN THE COMMAND CENTER, OBVIOUSLY.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE NOTIFICATION.

>> SURE. IF WE COULD PULL UP SLIDE 16, MADAM CHAIR, I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION. IT SAYS.

>> SLIDE OF 16.

>> YES 16.

>> THIS ONE?

>> YES. THE SECOND BULLET THERE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT HIRING, TRAINING, AND EQUIPPING OFFICERS.

BOND MONEY CAN'T BE USED FOR SALARY.

CAN WE JUST GET SOME CLARITY.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

>> THAT'S TRUE. THEY'RE NOT.

>> I'LL TAKE A FIRST STAB AT THIS, AND OF COURSE, WELCOME ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXTS.

THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUTFITTING THE OFFICERS WITH REGARDS TO THE GEAR THAT IS NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S THE VESTS, THE BELT, ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED TO ENSURE THE OFFICERS HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ROLES, AND AGAIN, ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR STUDENTS.

THE TRAINING AND THE EQUIPPING AND THE HIRING THAT WAS LESS A CONVERSATION ABOUT SALARIES, BUT MORE JUST ENSURING THAT ALL OF THE OFFICERS THEN ALSO HAVE THE ADEQUATE INSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH BEING ON BOARD TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ROLES.

I WILL DEFER TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND RICH IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFICS THAT I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED, BUT IT WAS MORE AIMED AT, AGAIN, EQUIPPING THE OFFICERS WITH THEIR FULL GEAR.

>> IT IS PROJECTS 36, 37, 38, AND 39.

THERE'S NO MONEY IN THERE FOR SALARIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT DELINEATES THAT IT'S FOR CARS, RADIOS, EQUIPMENT, AND HARD WARE.

IT IS DELINEATED IN THIS DETAILED PROJECT LIST, WHAT THAT MONEY IS ACTUALLY FOR.

>> WELL, AS WE KNOW, VOTERS WILL LOOK AT THINGS AND THEY LOOK AT WHAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF THEM.

IF I'M JUST A VOTER AND I READ SOMETHING, TO ME, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO EMPOWER US TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.

>> WELL, IT WILL HELP US HIRE NOT TO PAY FOR THEIR SALARY, BUT HELP US EQUIPMENT, RIGHT TO EQUIP GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED, SO WE CAN HIRE THEM.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, I MEAN, YOU LET ME HAVE THEM.

>> THE BULLET POINT THERE WAS TO INFORM WHAT IS NEEDING TO OCCUR, BUT NOT WHAT IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THROUGH THE BOND AND SO YES.

>> MR. GUERRA?

>> NO, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT DO JUST CHANGE THE WORD HIRE TO ONBOARD.

>> YEAH, IT MAY JUST BE THAT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE.

I WOULD JUST HATE FOR THERE TO BE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS DRAWING CONCLUSIONS.

>> AGREED.

>> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE VEHICLES.

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I'VE KNOWN A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THROUGHOUT MY LIFE.

THE VAST MAJORITY DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES THAT THEY TAKE HOME.

AM I TO UNDERSTAND BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID TO TRUSTEE MARKUM, DR. AS I USE, OR MADAM CHAIR, THAT THIS IS A PERK, IS THAT WHAT THIS IS?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY IS ABOUT THE USE OF OUR OFFICERS THAT DO HAVE ONE.

WHAT IS OUR CURRENT POLICY ABOUT THE PERSONAL USE OF A DISTRICT VEHICLE?

>> WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE OFFICERS, THIS IS SOMETHING STARTED WHEN IN THE INCEPTION OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WAS THE WHOLE PACKAGE, PRETTY MUCH YOU GET TO WORK FOR ROCK ROUND ISD, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL THE EQUIPMENT YOU NEED, YOU GET THE RADIOS, YOU GET EVERYTHING, AND ALSO, YOU ALSO HAVE A VEHICLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT TO WORK, BUT THEY ALSO YOU CAN TAKE IT HOME AND BRING IT BACK, THAT'S SOMETHING BACK START, AGAIN, I THINK, 2019, 2020.

AT THAT TIME, I THINK THE IDEA WAS, NUMBER 1, IS WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO BE AT EVERY CAMPUS, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW EVERY OFFICER, THE 28, 29 OFFICERS TO BE MOBILE AT ANY GIVEN TIME TO RESPOND, SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AT ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, AND THEY'RE BASED AT ONE OF SECONDARY, YOU JUST TAKE THEIR POLICE VEHICLE AND GO, AND THE SAME THING, IF THEY GET CALLS AFTER HOURS, THEY GET CALLED ON THE WEEKENDS, SO INSTEAD OF THEM LIKE, HOW I'M GOING TO GET TO THE SITUATION AND SOLVE IT, THEY HAVE OUR OWN VEHICLES SO THEY'LL BE AGAIN, QUICKER RESPONSE TO THE SITUATION.

I DON'T THINK AT THAT TIME WHEN THAT WAS CREATED, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS THINKING OF HAVING 70 OFFICERS AT THAT POINT, WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN SRO IN EVERY CAMPUS.

THAT'S WHY I WAS TELLING TRUSTEE MARKUM THAT, YEAH, WE WILL LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING HOLISTICALLY, IF WE END UP INCREASING OUR POLICE FORCE TO 70 OFFICERS, WE MAY NOT NEED TO HAVE EVERY OFFICER WITH A POLICE CAR AT THAT TIME, OR WE MAY NEED TO HAVE TOWS WITH EVERY POLICE OFFICER.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT AT THIS MOMENT, AT THIS TIME AND SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD FEWER OFFICERS, THEY NEEDED TO BE MOBILE AND TO PROVIDE THAT QUICK RESPONSE, GOD FORBID IT, SOMETHING HAPPENED AT A CAMPUS OR NEAR A CAMPUS THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE AN SRO THERE.

I GUESS I WASN'T HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

I THINK THAT WAS THE PLAN.

THAT WAS THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME.

>> AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LEGACY POLICY THAT MAY NEED SOME REEXAMINATION?

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID, IF WE END UP, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE YET, BUT IF IN TWO OR THREE YEARS WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO 70 OFFICERS, THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE VEHICLES, THAT'S SOMETHING PROBABLY WE CAN RECONSIDER OR LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY.

>> WELL, TO THE POINT OF BEING HOLISTIC, IF WE'VE GOT LEAKY ROOFS AND OTHER PROBLEMS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS I THINK THAT TAKES A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN A POLICE OFFICER BEING ABLE TO TAKE HIS OR HER VEHICLE HOME.

I'M ALL FOR BEING ABLE TO REACT BETWEEN CAMPUSES, BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE TAKING POLICE CARS HOME.

FOR THE VOLUNTEERS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I DO WANT TO ASK THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE TWO QUESTIONS.

MY FIRST IS, CAN YOU GIVE US 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF? WERE THERE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS, AS YOU REFLECT ON THE MEETINGS, WHAT CAN YOU SHARE? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

>> WHAT I'LL SAY IS THAT UNIFORMLY, WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT, AND I THINK WHENEVER WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ITEMS, IT WAS, IS THIS ITEM A MUST-HAVE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OR IS THIS A NICE TO HAVE? THAT'S WHERE WE ALWAYS REROUTED OUR CONVERSATIONS, RECOGNIZING THAT, AGAIN, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT, WE'RE ALSO BEING VERY MINDFUL THAT THE COSTS IN TOTALITY, WHEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE PROJECTS, NOT JUST SAFETY AND SECURITY BUT PROPOSED, IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION THAT INDIVIDUALS WILL BE HAVING ACROSS THE DISTRICT OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SUPPORT OR NOT.

THERE WAS ALWAYS A THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE TAXPAYER TO ENSURE THAT, AGAIN, THAT WE ARE MEETING THE SPIRIT OF BOTH SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT ALSO BEING SENSITIVE TO THE RISING COSTS OF LIVING IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

WITH REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE ANY CONFLICTS OR DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS, I WOULD SAY THE ONE ITEM THAT WAS POTENTIALLY WHERE THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A DISAGREEMENT WAS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PANIC BUTTON IS NEEDED BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF THAT.

YES, WE DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT IS THE LETTER OF THE LAW IN TERMS OF A SILENT ALARM.

BUT AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP, WE ADVANCED BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS AND NOT NECESSARILY UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, BUT COLLECTIVELY AS A GROUP, WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE A RESOURCE THAT ALLOWS FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FOR INDIVIDUALS,

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WHETHER THEY ARE IN A CLASSROOM OR OUTSIDE OF A CLASSROOM AT A FACILITY ON THE FIELD, AND THAT PROPOSED ITEM OF A SILENT ALARM THAT COINCIDES WITH THE ID WAS A PROJECT THAT, AGAIN, GAINED CONSENSUS FROM THE GROUP THAT WE FELT WE NEEDED TO PURSUE AS A POTENTIAL ITEM FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.

>> MY LAST QUESTION, SIR, IS, WHAT DID YOU LEARN OR OBSERVE IN YOUR SERVICE ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT SURPRISED YOU THE MOST?

>> I WOULDN'T SAY I LEARNED THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS KNEW THIS, BUT IT'S THE AMOUNT OF HOURS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT GOES INTO MAKING ROUND ROCK A SPECIAL DISTRICT IN WHICH STUDENTS, AND FACULTY, AND STAFF CAN NOT JUST BE SUCCESSFUL BUT THRIVE IN BEING WHO THEY ARE.

I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS A COMMITMENT IN TRYING TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL INDIVIDUALS.

THE COLLECTIVE ENERGY AROUND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT IT WAS A SURPRISE, BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO BE REMINDED THAT, YES, THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME DIFFERENCES OF ITEMS OR OPINIONS, BUT COLLECTIVELY, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TO ENSURE THAT OUR CAMPUSES ARE SPECIAL PLACES FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND THAT WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.

I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE LONG HOURS THAT WENT INTO BEING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HELP LEAD THIS EFFORT.

IT WAS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT WITH MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WITH THE STAFF HOURS AND FABI AND LINDSEY FOR GIVING US GUIDANCE THE ENTIRE WAY.

>> TRUSTEE ZARATE.

>> WELL, MADAM CHAIR, MY QUESTION IS MAYBE A LITTLE PREMATURE, BUT AS JUST WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THIS.

YOU MENTIONED THE FENCING.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT, AND WHEN YOU SAY UNSCALABLE FENCING, TO ME, THAT DEFINITELY EVOKES IMAGES OF RAZOR WIRE, SHARP EDGES, THAT KIND OF THING, AND THEN YOU SAID THERE ARE ALSO THESE FENCES THAT MADE ME DON'T EVOKE THAT IN OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF.

WITH OUR STUDENTS, I'VE HEARD THIS DIRECTLY FROM THEIR MOUTHS, FEELING THAT A LOT OF TIMES SCHOOL'S LIKE JAIL.

HOW DO WE HOW DO THESE FENCES GIVE THEM A SENSE OF SECURITY RATHER THAN A SENSE OF BEING HELD IN, AS WELL AS KEEP PEOPLE OUT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DICHOTOMY THERE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER LEARNING-WISE THERE AND I THINK THERE AND I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY A SECURITY PRESENCE ON CAMPUS ALREADY.

>> THE TYPE OF FENCE THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO MOVE TO IS CALLED A WELDED WIRE FENCE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE POOL AT CEDAR RIDGE, THE FENCE THAT'S AROUND THAT IS THE KIND OF FENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

THE WAY THE PANELS ARE MADE, YOU REALLY CAN'T GRAB A HOLD OF IT TO GET INTO, BUT IT'S SO THIN THAT UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING STRAIGHT AT IT, YOU REALLY DON'T SEE THE FENCE.

YOU ALMOST SEE STRAIGHT THROUGH IT.

WE HAD A COMPANY COME OUT TO BID SOME PROJECTS YESTERDAY, AND WE HAVE TWO MORE COMING OUT AS WELL.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND NOT LIKE A JAIL.

THEN THESE FENCES AT THE TOP, THEY CURVE JUST A BIT, SO YOU'D HAVE TO SPIDERMAN UP AND OVER IT IF YOU WERE TO DO IT.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT, YOU'LL LOOK RIGHT THROUGH THE FENCE BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT'S MADE, AND THE LIFESPAN ON THOSE FENCES, I THINK MOST OF THE COMPANIES ARE GUARANTEEING THEM FOR 25 YEARS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

BUT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF THOUGHT GOING INTO, HOW CAN WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT TEA SET FORTH, WHICH IS SIX FOOT AND NON-SCALABLE, AND HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR SCHOOLS LOOK AS INVITING AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE THE OTHER OPTION IS IF WE USE CHAIN LINK FENCE, THEN TO MAKE IT SIX FOOT NON SCALABLE, IT HAS TO HAVE THE LITTLE POINTY CHAIN LINKS AT THE TOP, WHICH JUST THEY DON'T LOOK GREAT, AND THEN CHAIN LINK OVER TIME TENDS TO SAG.

IT'S JUST NOT AS PLEASING AS AN OPTION.

SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF THOUGHT GOING INTO THAT, AND I HOPE THAT WHEN WE GET THESE BIDS THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE DIRECTLY SPEAKING TO.

>> I WANT TO ADD, TRUSTEE ZARATE, THAT THAT QUESTION WAS THE CONSIDERATION THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD NOT JUST WITH FENCING, BUT WITH ALL OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ITEMS. ALL OF US HAVING CHILDREN AT OUR SCHOOLS, RECOGNIZE THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS CRITICAL.

WE DROP OUR CHILDREN OFF, AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO HEAR IF ANYTHING HAPPEN.

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BUT THERE'S ALSO A GIVE AND TAKE BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE OPTICS OF FENCING.

WE RECOGNIZE THE OPTICS OF OVER-POLICING.

WE RECOGNIZE THE OPTICS OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME IN EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS THESE DAYS.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF ENSURING SAFETY AND SECURITY OR COMPLIANCE WITH TEA REGULATIONS, BUT THERE'S ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO PUT OUR STUDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST IN TERMS OF ENSURING THEIR WELL BEING.

THERE HAS BEEN A THOUGHT OF, HOW CAN WE MEET THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH ALSO BEING MINDFUL OF THE TYPES OF LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS IN WHICH STUDENTS ARE THRIVING.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT IN A SETTING IN WHICH IT'S ARCHAIC OR IN A SETTING IN WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE AN INSTITUTION, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS TO REACH THEIR FULL LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT IN EDUCATIONAL SETTING, AND SO WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT, AND I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS AS WELL.

>> THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO SAY, MADAM CHAIR, IS THANK YOU TO TRUSTEE, DR. GONZALEZ, FOR YOUR TIME.

REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME IN YOUR OTHER EFFORTS, AND FOR YOU TO DO THIS FOR US, IS VERY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

DO ANY TRUSTEES NEED ANY ADDITIONAL TIME TO DISCUSS SAFETY AND SECURITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND BEING ABLE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING FOR YOUR PRESENTATION FOR US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND ALL OF YOUR SERVICE AS WELL.

>> WE DO HAVE A GENERAL TIMELINE OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ACCOMPLISHING TODAY.

THE FIRE ALARM HAS PUT US BEHIND ALREADY.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START CAPITAL RENEWAL AND HOPEFULLY GET THROUGH THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.

ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT?

>> YES.

>> YEAH? THEN LET'S GO ON TO THE CAPITAL RENEWAL.

WE'RE ON TO AGENDA ITEM H3, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL RENEWAL PORTION OF THE CITIZEN'S BOND COMMITTEES WORK.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AT THIS MOMENT, WE WANT TO CALL UP AMANDA MOATZ WHO LED THE CAPITAL RENEWAL SUBCOMMITTEE AND MELISSA ROSS AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU, LADIES FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE RED LIGHT ON BY PUSHING THE BUTTON DOWN AT THE BASE, THERE YOU GO, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO IT THAT IT PROJECTS.

GREAT. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

MY NAME IS AMANDA MOATZ, AND I HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIR OF THE CAPITAL RENEWAL COMMITTEE.

OH, THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] OUR FANTASTIC CBC CO-CHAIRS HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB ANALYZING AND PRESENTING THE MULTITUDE OF DATA IDENTIFIED AND RECOMMENDED BY ALL OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEES AND FURTHER REFINING IT AFTER OUR SUBMISSIONS.

I THOUGHT WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO START MY TIME WITH YOU TODAY IS TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT CAPITAL RENEWAL EMPLOYED TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OUR SUBCOMMITTEE COLLECTED DATA FROM HPM, DISTRICT RESOURCES, INCLUDING CAMPUS MAINTENANCE REQUESTS, AND COMMUNITY INPUT, INCLUDING PRINCIPAL SURVEYS.

WE CONSIDERED ALL BUILDINGS AS WELL AS DISTRICT EQUIPMENT, WHICH ALSO HAS A LIFE CYCLE.

WE MET TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE THE LONG-RANGE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, EDUCATIONAL ADEQUACY SCORE, AND FACILITY CONDITION INDEX, TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS INTO CONTEXT AND IDENTIFY FIXED VERSUS VARIABLE ASPECTS.

THIS DATA ALSO HELPED OUR COMMITTEE IDENTIFY AREAS WITH LOW FCI OR EA SCORES, QUESTIONS OR LESS DATA TO DETERMINE WHERE TO CONDUCT SITE VISITS.

WE THEN BROKE DOWN THE DATA BY SYSTEM TO GET BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE LIFE-CYCLE AND CURRENT CONDITION NEEDS FOR EACH CATEGORY.

THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE COLLABORATED WITH DISTRICT RESOURCES TO ELIMINATE REDUNDANCY AND PRIORITIZE THE REQUESTS BASED ON DISTRICT HISTORY, CURRENT CONDITION, LIFE-CYCLE DATA, AND THEIR HPM PRIORITY LABELS.

OUR OVERARCHING FOCUS WAS ON CURRENT DEFICIENCIES THAT AFFECT THE BUILDING'S STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY, ISSUES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT OTHER SYSTEMS, AND LIFE-CYCLE ISSUES THAT LEAD TO FUTURE MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS. WE THEN CONTINUED THE PROCESS BY METICULOUSLY REVIEWING EVERY LINE ITEM, USING DISTRICT AND HPM RESOURCES FOR CLARIFICATION AND TO REFINE THE REQUESTS.

THE COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED PROJECTS THAT COULD BE STARTED AND COMPLETED WITHIN THE BOND CYCLE AND IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE COUPLED FOR EFFICIENCY, COST SAVINGS, AND POTENTIAL FUTURE DAMAGE PREVENTION.

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WE PRIORITIZE DEFICIENCIES THAT AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND OR LEARNING ENVIRONMENT OF STUDENTS, EXCESSIVELY WORN OR DAMAGED ITEMS, AND DEFICIENCIES THAT COULD RESULT IN A LONG-TERM COST SAVINGS OR A BETTER BUILDING ENVIRONMENT FOR STUDENTS.

DISTRICT-WIDE EQUITY WAS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMITTEE.

CAPITAL RENEWAL REVIEWED OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS USING MULTIPLE SPENDING ANALYSES, ENSURING EVERY FACILITY RECEIVED ATTENTION TO ITS MOST PRESSING NEEDS, AND NO POPULATION WAS OVERLOOKED.

THE COMMITTEE IS CONFIDENT THAT EVERY FACILITY WAS REVIEWED AND PRIORITIZED BASED ON ITS NEEDS WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THIS BOND AND THE SPECIFIC FACILITY CONDITIONS.

>> AS THE SUBCOMMITTEES WORK TO REFINE THE DATA AND RECOMMENDATIONS, TWO CAMPUSES WERE IDENTIFIED WITH THE NEED FOR A HOLISTIC OVERVIEW DUE TO HIGH CAPITAL RENEWAL TOTALS AND SIGNIFICANT OVERLAP BETWEEN SUBCOMMITTEES.

THE CAPITAL RENEWAL SUBCOMMITTEE WAS APPROACHED TO TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL AND MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL IN COORDINATION WITH THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES TO ENSURE ALL CAMPUS NEEDS WERE MET WHILE MAINTAINING FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

IN THE CASE OF MCNEIL, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT COSTS AND NEEDED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR THE OLDER SECTIONS OF THE CAMPUS.

MANY OF THOSE SECTIONS ALSO CONTAINED AREAS OF CONCERN FOR THE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETIC SUBCOMMITTEE.

IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL COMMUNITY AND AVOID SPENDING LARGE SUMS TO CONDUCT NEEDED REPAIRS ON SECTIONS THAT WOULD SOON BE UNDER REVIEW FOR REFURBISHMENT OR SPACE RECONFIGURATION UNDER MCNEIL'S PHASE THREE PLANS, WE CONCLUDED THAT UPDATING MCNEIL'S MASTER PLAN UNDER THIS BOND CYCLE TO INCLUDE NECESSARY BUILDING MAINTENANCE, FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS RECOMMENDATIONS, AND REPURPOSING THE DISTRICT MAINTENANCE BUILDING ONCE THAT DEPARTMENT MOVES WILL ENSURE FINANCIAL PRUDENCE AND CONSIDER ALL STAKEHOLDERS NEEDS.

ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, OUR COMMITTEE VISITED THE CAMPUS AND HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRINCIPAL ABOUT THE CHALLENGES HERE.

WE REVIEWED THE 2008 ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL PHASED PLAN, RECENT LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND SITE VISIT DATA.

AFTER MUCH THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION, WE CONCLUDED THAT A COMBINATION OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, RENOVATION, DEMOLITION, AND NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD CREATE A SAFER, MORE COMPACT, RIGHT SIZED CAMPUS, ALIGNED WITH EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL'S FUTURE POPULATION, WHILE ALSO INCREASING FLEXIBILITY FOR DISTRICT OR CAMPUS NEEDS.

WE KNOW THAT RUN ROCK HIGH SCHOOL IS COMPLEX IN THE NUMBER AND CONDITION OF ITS BUILDINGS, AND ADDITIONALLY HOUSES NOT ONLY CLASSES, BUT ALSO DISTRICT OFFICE SPACE, THE 18 PLUS SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, AND EVEN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM WE'RE IN NOW.

THAT LED US TO DEVELOP A RECOMMENDATION THAT LANDED IN BETWEEN THE 2008 PHASED BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, PHASED PLAN AND THE LONG RANGE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

THE HOPE IS THAT AFTER CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BUILDING ENDS, IF ENROLLMENT DECLINES AS PREDICTED, THE 700 BUILDING COULD BE ENTIRELY DEDICATED FOR DISTRICT PROGRAMS, SEPARATING DISTRICT ACTIVITIES FROM STUDENT AREAS AND PRESERVING SPACE FOR THE 18 PLUS AND OTHER DISTRICT PROGRAMS. FOR THE 100 BUILDING, WE RECOMMENDED CREATING A MASTER PLAN TO DETERMINE BEST USAGE FOR THE SPACE, WHETHER THAT'S A 750 PERSON PACK, SIMILAR TO THOSE AT CEDAR REGIN DONY POINT, TO PROVIDE PARKING RELIEF OR OTHER PRIORITY DEPENDING ON COMMUNITY INPUT DURING THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.

THAT IS HOW WE GOT HERE.

WE NARROWED DOWN THE OVER 2,000 PROJECTS CONSIDERED TO MAKE OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

I KNOW YOU ALL MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US, BUT BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE CAPITAL RENEWAL VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, DISTRICT LEADERS, AND HPM REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR HARD WORK, COLLABORATION, AND DEDICATION TO THIS PROCESS.

IT WAS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING AND THEY DUG INTO IT WITH AND TEAMWORK, AND IT WAS TRULY AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF IT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. TALKING ABOUT ROOFS AND PLUMBING FIXTURES IS NOT GLAMOROUS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITTEE DIVING INTO THESE SOMETIMES MONOTONOUS AND NOT SO BEAUTIFUL PROJECTS, BUT ARE MUCH NEEDED TO KEEP OUR DISTRICT UP AND GOING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING ON THAT.

TRUSTEES, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I FIGURED WE DID. YOUR LIGHT IS NOT WORKING, TRUSTEE WEIR, BUT WE'LL START WITH YOU.

I SAW YOU PUSHERS. TRUSTEE WEIR.

>> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.

HAVING SERVED ON THE 2014, 17 AND 18 BOND COMMITTEES WHERE WE DIDN'T GET TO GET INTO THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT WE NEEDED TO GET INTO.

I REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL TOOK THAT TIME AND GOT INTO THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE NEGLECTED THROUGH THE LAST FEW PROCESSES. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK IT WAS IN CAPITAL RENEWAL FOR DEER PARK FOR THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

THAT WAS, Y'ALL, RIGHT? I SAY THIS AS

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A PARENT WHO HAD CHILDREN LOSE SHOES GOING THROUGH THAT CREEK.

WHEN I ASKED MY QUESTION, IT SAID ALL OF THE LAND WAS OWNED BY THE DISTRICT.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WANTED THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THAT IS REALLY CORRECT THAT THAT WHOLE CREEK AND FLOODPLAIN IS ALL WITHIN THE DISTRICT UP UNTIL IT REACHES THAT ROAD.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT CAME UP. MR. [INAUDIBLE] SHARED THAT WITH US, AND THEN WE CONFIRM THAT.

>> IF YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU MAY HAVE TO USE ONE OF THE HOT MICS DOWN THERE.

>> YOU CAN LOOK ON THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY CARD AND SEE WHERE OUR PROPERTY LINES ARE AND THAT WOULD EXPLAIN IT IN VERY MUCH DETAIL TO YOU THE STRUGGLES WE HAVE.

>> IT'S A MESS BACK THERE.

THEN I GUESS, MADAM CHAIR, MY QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW HOW MUCH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE IT.

IT SAYS DEER PARK AND LIVE OAK, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY LIVE OAK STUDENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT AREA, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE USING THAT.

IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE DEER PARK STUDENTS.

BUT 15 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ANYONE HAS CHECKED ON WHAT THE LIABILITY WOULD BE FOR THE DISTRICT, IF WE WOULD NEED A CROSSING GUARD BACK THERE.

I KNOW THAT THEY DO OPEN THE GATE AND THEN HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CLOSE THE GATE.

BUT IT'S IN THE WOODS IN A GREEN.

>> I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

>> WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

>> MADAM CHAIR, COULD YOU JUST ASK TRUSTEE WEIR, OR SOMEBODY TO COME UP TO 30,000 FEET AND TELL US WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND THEN CAN WE GET BECAUSE SHE HAS GOOD QUESTIONS BUT I THINK WE'RE STARTING TOO LOW SO CAN WE COME UP HIGHER, PLEASE?

>> YEAH, I'M GOING TO KICK IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

IF YOU'LL TALK JUST A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THE DEER PARK BRIDGE THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS PROPOSED?

>> YES. TRUSTEE WEIR IS RIGHT.

WE HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN WANTED BECAUSE THIS IS A TITLE 1 SCHOOL.

IT STARTS AT 8:15, AND SO A LOT OF THOSE FAMILIES HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ABLE TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.

THAT AREA IS NOT PARTICULARLY A SAFE AREA.

THERE ACTUALLY WAS AN INCIDENT JUST TWO YEARS AGO WHERE THERE WAS AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENT WHO WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN THAT AREA.

IT'S A PIECE OF LAND THAT CONNECTS DEER PARK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING A LITTLE INTO THE WOODS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> TELL US WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

>> THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE TALKING AT ONE TIME SO LET'S TRY ONE AT A TIME.

WHOEVER NEEDS TO HAVE THE MICROPHONE.

>> I KNOW IN THE BACK ROOM THEY PULLED UP THIS GOOGLE EARTH VIEW OF IT.

COULD YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO CENTER IT? THEN I'LL LET HER EXPLAIN.

DOES THAT CLICKER HAVE A LIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS.

RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT ROAD THAT DEAD ENDS GOING INTO THE GRASSY AREA RIGHT THERE? YES, EXACTLY.

RIGHT NOW, STUDENTS COME FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE GOING OVER THE RIVER AND THROUGH THE WOODS TO SCHOOL AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF GRADING ISSUES, THAT'S THE SPACE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE NEED?

>> YES. SO THIS $15 MILLION PROJECT IS TO ADDRESS THE TRANSPORTATION PATH. GO AHEAD.

>> YES. WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS CONSIDERING THIS, THE PRICE TAG ATTACHED TO IT WAS $700,000.

THIS HAS CHANGED IN SCOPE SINCE IT LEFT OUR HANDS.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PART OF THAT IS ALSO WITH THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PIECES.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS FENCING, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PIECES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY MEASURES IN ADDITION TO JUST HAVING A USABLE PEDESTRIAN PATH.

LINDSEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU WERE INVOLVED IN.

>> I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 700,000 CAME FROM ON THE ORIGINAL COST LIST SO WHEN WE WERE GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT ALL THE PRICES,

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THAT JUST SEEMED LOW FOR A BRIDGE.

THE COMMON SENSE WHEN FABI AND I LOOKED A WE'RE LIKE, 700,000 SEEMS LOW, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

WE GOT ON A CALL WITH DISTRICT AND WITH SCOTT, AND WE DID THIS EXACT EXERCISE OF PULLING UP GOOGLE EARTH AND LOOKING AT.

THE THOUGHT WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE EXACTLY THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR WHAT THE DETAIL OF THAT WAS.

I THINK IT WAS JUST FOR A SMALL CROSSING ONE OF THE DEEPEST SPACES.

BUT THEN WHEN THE DISCUSSION HAPPENED IS, WELL, IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, REALLY THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS TO MAKE IT SAFE FROM WHEN THE STUDENTS STEP ONTO DISTRICT PROPERTY, WHERE THAT FENCE IS, IT NEEDS TO BE A PAVED PATHWAY THAT WOULD CONNECT TO WHATEVER THAT BRIDGE WOULD BE THAT WOULD GO OVER THAT RAVINE AND THEN CONNECT UP TO THE SCHOOL.

THAT EXPANDED THE SCOPE, I THINK OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION WAS OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOW TO CORRECTLY ADDRESS THIS IF STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THE SPACE SINCE IT IS ALL DISTRICT OWNED PROPERTY.

>> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT I'LL DEFER TO TRUSTEE WHERE TO PICK UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

>> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, SO ARE YOU SAYING IS THE PROPOSAL A CONCRETE WALKING PATH ON FOOT?

>> YES.

>> WHAT IS THE DISTANCE? IS IT MEASURED IN FEET OR?

>> IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE AND GRADED AND EVERYTHING TO GO OVER THE CREEK.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT.

>> FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS FOR 1,000 FOOT OF CONCRETE TO WALK?

>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO GET ENGINEERS INVOLVED. THIS IS ALL IN.

WE'D HAVE TO HAVE FENCES AROUND IT, PROBABLY ON BOTH SIDES.

IT'S A MAJOR PROJECT.

>> TRUSTEE, YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU PREFER AND YOU DO TOO TRUSTEES? THIS IS BETTER THAN JUST CHANGING A POLICY TO ALLOW FOR BUSING.

>> BECAUSE YOU COULD DO HAZARDOUS ROUTE BUSING.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS THAN 2 MILES, YOU COULD START OFFERING TRANSPORTATION.

>> THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

>> WE USED TO HAVE.

>> EXCUSE ME. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF CHANGING THE STATE'S POLICY ON HAZARDOUS ROUTES AND FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SCHOOL IS NOT A HAZARDOUS ROUTE.

>> OH, SO THERE IS A NARROW DEFINITION OF A HAZARDOUS ROUTE THAT THIS DOESN'T MEET.

>> IF WE PROVIDED A BUS, WE WOULD HAVE TO SUCK UP THE COST ON THAT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT GIVES US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT TRUSTEES ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE JUST HEARING WHAT THE COMMITTEES THOUGHTS WERE ON THIS AND AS TRUSTEE, WE SAID, IT IS A VERY HIGH PRICE TAG, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING IN TOTALITY AND SO THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE AND WE WILL TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. THANK YOU.

>> I WILL JUST SAY ONCE WE GOT THE UPDATED COST, AT THIS POINT WE WERE SO FAR ON THE ROAD.

WE DIDN'T GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, RECONVENE YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE AND CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT YOU STILL WANT TO HAVE THIS AS A P1.

WE GOT THE UPDATED COST.

THAT'S ULTIMATELY FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE.

BUT IT WAS A P1.

IT'S BEEN A PAIN POINT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, AND SO WE WANTED TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS LOOKED AT, THOUGHT ABOUT, AND THEN A DECISION MADE BY YOU ALL ON THAT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAD ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED PREVIOUSLY OF THE COMMITTEE.

THAT ACTUALLY WAS FOR FOREST NORTH.

AFTER CARRAWAY GOT THEIR UPGRADES AFTER 2018, FOREST NORTH IS NOW THE ONLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHOUT A STAGE AND I'M CURIOUS GIVEN THEIR OTHER CAPITAL RENEWAL.

>> YES. WE ACTUALLY DID A SITE VISIT AT FOREST NORTH AND THAT WAS SHARED WITH US THAT THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN ISSUES AND IMPERVIOUS COVER ISSUES.

WHILE IT HAS LAND TO POTENTIALLY BUILD OUT, IT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN CODES TO BUILD IT OUT ANYMORE.

THERE'S NOT ANY SPACE IN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE THAT'S NOT BEING USED THAT COULD BE CONVERTED INTO A STAGE.

YES, WE VERY MUCH HOPED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP ADDRESS THAT.

WE JUST RAN INTO CODE ISSUES THAT PRECLUDED US FROM DOING IT.

>> TRUSTEE HARRISON.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WHAT I HOPE IS A QUICK QUESTION.

UNDER CAPITAL RENEWAL, WE'RE GETTING 65 NEW BUSES, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS QUESTION IS LIKELY FOR ADMINISTRATION.

HAVE WE LOOKED INTO CLEAN ENERGY ELECTRIC BUSES? THERE'S LOTS OF EPA REBATES, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS.

>> WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AND THERE WERE SOME GRANTS,

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I GUESS, I KNOW ASITINA HERE HAD IT. WE LOOKED AT IT.

I THINK A PART OF IT IS I KNOW SOME SCHOOL DISTRICT ALREADY WON THAT ROUTE OR ARE PILOTING SOME.

IS JUST WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY MILES THE BUSES DRIVE EVERY DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT BEFORE THEY CAN BE RECHARGED AND WHEN CAN THEY BE RECHARGED, HOW LONG WOULD TAKE THEM TO RECHARGE? I THINK AT AT THAT MOMENT WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY APPLYING FOR FEDERAL GRANTS FOR IT, AT THAT MOMENT, WITH THE SPECIFICATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT WASN'T REALLY THE BEST ROUTE TO GO.

MAYBE IN ONE OR TWO YEARS IF THEY HAVE A BETTER BATTERIES THAT CAN LAST LONGER OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE PROBABLY WE WANT TO GO GREEN AT SOME POINT.

BUT AT THIS MOMENT, IT WASN'T FEASIBLE FOR OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE OF AGAIN, HOW MANY MILES OUR BUSES DRIVE EVERY DAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING IN TWO OR THREE YEARS.

AGAIN, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVING AS FAR AS THE BATTERY AND THE RANGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. I'M WATCHING DENNIS SHAKE HIS HEAD AT ME.

I KNOW MY QUESTION PROBABLY HAVE SENT YOU AND I KNOW IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURAL INVESTMENT AND THEN MY OTHER SECOND PART TO THE QUESTION THAT I THINK YOU COULD ANSWER IS, IF WE EVER WENT THAT ROUTE AND IT WAS PAID FOR BY A BOND, WOULD WE STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR REBATES?

>> HOW A DISTRICT PAYS FOR ANYTHING DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR REBATE.

>> GOOD TO KNOW.

>> IF IT'S REBATABLE, IT DOESN'T CARE HOW YOU PAY FOR IT.

BUT BACK TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WE DID LOOK INTO THAT GOVERNMENT PROGRAM TO ACQUIRE BUSES, BUT BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR DISTRICT, WE DIDN'T QUALIFY.

>> THANK YOU. I KNOW WE'RE 110 SQUARE MILES, SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON RIGHT NOW, BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I'LL MAKE A GENERAL STATEMENT.

WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE PROJECT, I LOOKED AT GENERAL EQUITY ACROSS THE DISTRICT, AND IF WE WERE DOING SOMETHING AT ONE CAMPUS, DID OTHER CAMPUSES HAVE THAT SAME NEED? THAT'S THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT.

BUT ALSO, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO START WITH IS THAT I'M THRILLED TO SEE ALL OF THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE BEING COMPLETED IN THIS BOND CYCLE THAT CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE IN 2018, AND I THINK THAT IT IS A BIG CELEBRATION WHEN ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE NOW GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT WHERE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS CAN PLAY TOGETHER ON THE SAME PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

IT'S A HUGE BONUS.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TWO BY FOUR TILE REPLACEMENTS, AND I HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, I HAVE ABOUT 10 PROJECTS THAT HAVE THAT.

EXPLAIN THE NEED FOR THAT.

I LOOK AT THE ROOF IN HERE AND THEY'RE NOT TWO BY TWO.

WHY GO TO THAT? IF WE DID, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE EVENTUALLY LOOKING TO DO THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DISTRICT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL.

WHY ARE WE JUST POCKETING THE TWO BY TWO TILES TO REPLACE?

>> GOOD QUESTION. IN A LOT OF CASES, THOSE ARE JUST OLDER TILES, AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM WHERE THERE IS A CURRENT CONDITION ISSUE WHERE EITHER THEY'VE HAD A ROOF LEAK AND SO THEY'RE SAGGING TILES.

BUT PRIMARILY THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE THIS MOMENT IS THAT IF WE ARE TO CHANGE ALL OF THE DISTRICT INTERIOR LIGHTS TO LED, THAT IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO COUPLE THAT PROJECT FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE YOU ARE ALREADY UP THERE, IT MAKES SENSE TO WHILE YOU'RE CHANGING OUT LIGHTS, CHANGE OUT YOUR CEILING TILES BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARD FOR ALL OF THE CAMPUSES.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED AT MORE CAMPUSES.

BUT THE PROBLEM BECAME THE SCOPE OF ALL OF OUR PROJECTS WAS TOO LARGE TO TACKLE IN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

THAT'S WHY SOME CAMPUSES WILL NOT HAVE MADE IT THERE IN THIS BOND CYCLE, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO OR THAT WE CHOSE FOR IT NOT TO, IT WAS JUST THAT THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN FIVE YEARS.

>> YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME LATER, BUT LIKE KELLY REEVES HAS FOUR LINE ITEMS FOR TWO BY TWO REPLACEMENT TILES, AND YOU DON'T YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IT NOW, BUT JUST WONDERED WHY WE HAD FOUR SEPARATE LINE ITEMS FOR KELLY REEVES ON THOSE TILES.

>> SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

>> OH, SEPARATE BUILDINGS. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS THE MARQUEES.

THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MARQUEES, BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRICES AT CAMPUSES, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE PRICES ARE DIFFERENT? I BELIEVE THERE'S EVEN ONE CAMPUS RECOMMENDED TO GET TWO? CAN YOU ADDRESS THE MARQUEE QUESTION?

>> ABSOLUTELY. WITH MARQUEES, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN PRICE DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS CURRENTLY SET UP TO RECEIVE ELECTRICITY.

NOT ALL OF THESE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE THE LIGHTING IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE.

THE COSTS ARE HIGHER FOR CAMPUSES THAT NEED THAT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN.

FOR THE ONES THAT ARE TWO, WE ARE NOT ADVISING THAT WE CHANGE ANY OF THE CURRENT MARQUEE SITUATIONS.

THESE ARE CAMPUSES THAT ALREADY HAVE TWO MARQUEES.

WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, WE'RE LIKE, DO WE WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT THEY HAVE TWO ELECTRONIC OR DO WE WANT TO JUST HAVE ONE ELECTRONIC,

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AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF UPDATING TWO MARQUEES THAT ARE ON SEPARATE SYSTEMS, AND WE JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT REASONABLE IF THE DISTRICT HAS DECIDED THAT THESE CAMPUSES NEED TWO MARQUEES, THAT THOSE MARQUEES SHOULD BOTH BE DIGITAL.

>> DO WE HAVE A DISTRICT STANDARD OR A POLICY FOR THAT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE SOME CAMPUSES WITH TWO MARQUEES, WHAT'S GOING TO PREVENT ANOTHER CAMPUS FROM COMING LATER AND SAYING, I'M ON A CORNER.

I WANT TWO MARQUEES NOW.

WHAT IS OUR STANDARD IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK WE DO HAVE ONE FOR HOW MANY AT CAMPUS.

WE NEED TO GO BACK AND CHECK.

I DON'T WANT TO LIE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A POLICY ON THIS CAMPUS NEEDS TWO OR THIS CAMPUS NEEDS ONE.

I THINK THOSE WERE DONE, I GUESS, AT THAT TIME, RIGHT, WHENEVER THEY'RE BUILDING OR WHATEVER, SO DECISION WERE REALLY INDIVIDUALIZED, I GUESS, BUT NO, I'M NOT AWARE OF GENERAL POLICY FOR OUR DISTRICT.

>> THERE ARE ONLY TWO CAMPUSES THAT HAVE TWO MARQUEES, OLDTOWN ELEMENTARY AND FERN BLUFF ELEMENTARY.

THE WAY THAT THOSE CAMPUSES ARE SET UP IS THAT THEY AREN'T EVEN AT A CORNER.

THEIR CAMPUSES TOUCH TWO LARGER ROADWAYS THAT THERE WOULDN'T EVEN BE THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING JUST ONE AT A VISIBLE SPACE FOR ALL TRAFFIC THAT WOULD CONVERGE AT A CORNER.

YOU HAVE OLDTOWN THAT HAS 3406 ON THE BACK AND THEN THEY HAVE THE ONE IN FRONT OF THEIR CAMPUS WHERE ALL THE FAMILIES COME.

YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO THOSE CAMPUSES, SAME THING WITH FERN BLUFF.

IT'S ONLY TWO CAMPUSES THAT HAVE TWO MARQUEES.

>> PERFECT. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO ADD? PERFECT. NEXT QUESTION WAS ON THE FIXTURE REPLACEMENTS.

I HAVE ABOUT SIX CAMPUSES THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR THAT THAT SAY NOTHING'S WRONG, JUST OLD.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS? I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OUR CAMPUSES GETTING TO DECAY BEFORE WE REPLACE, BUT WHAT WENT INTO THE DECISION PROCESS TO DECIDE WHEN TO REPLACE THEM AND WHY TO REPLACE THEM NOW WHEN NOTHING'S WRONG? ANDERSON MILL, BERKMAN, FOREST CREEK, GATTIS, ROBERTSON, AND UNION HILL.

THOSE ALL HAD FIXTURES THAT SAID NOTHING'S WRONG, I BELIEVE.

WHEN I SAY NOTHING WRONG, COMMUNITY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS DETAILED PROJECT LIST, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COLUMN IN THE FAR LEFT, AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE COMMENTS WERE.

>> THAT'S TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT'S THE CAMPUS NUMBER? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANDERSON MILL 12, CARLISON ONE, NO, SORRY, THOSE ARE REPLACEMENTS.

SORRY, ANDERSON MILL 13, BERKMAN THREE, FOREST CREEK TWO, GATTIS SIX, ROBERTSON 10, AND UNION HILL SEVEN.

>> I WAS JUST SHARING WITH AMANDA.

THIS WAS THAT NOTE GOT ADDED BY US WHEN WE DID THE DETAIL REVIEW WITH HPM AND WITH DAVID AND HIS TEAM.

WE SAW THAT THOSE FIXTURES WERE A LOT.

WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REMOVING THEM SINCE THEY WERE P1 RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT THE MAINTENANCE TEAM DID GO THROUGH AND LOOK AND DETERMINE WHICH ONES HAD TRUE DEFICIENCIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND OTHER ONES THAT THEY'RE JUST VERY OLD, AND SO YOU HAVE SOME THINGS LIKE TOILETS THAT THEY'RE STILL FUNCTIONAL, BUT YOU PUT AN AUGER DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS CLOGGED AND IT SCRATCHES THE PORCELAIN, AND OVER TIME, IT JUST STARTS LOOKING TERRIBLE.

THERE WERE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL, BUT AESTHETICALLY WHEN A STUDENTS GOING INTO THAT CLASSROOM OR THOSE BATHROOMS, OR YOU HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING INTO THOSE BATHROOMS, THEY LOOK LIKE, THIS DOESN'T LOOK GREAT.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A VERY SANITARY OR WELL EVEN IF IT IS CLEANED EVERY DAY, THAT WILL NEVER GO AWAY, SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WERE.

WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REMOVING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE OLD, BUT THEY STILL FLUSH, THE SINKS STILL TURN ON, BUT THEY'RE JUST AESTHETICALLY, THEY HAVE SOME ISSUES.

>> IS THAT A FAIR ASSERTION, DAVID? PERFECT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CAPITAL RENEWAL? IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE TWO MORE MINUTES BECAUSE I HAVE FOUR MORE QUESTIONS FOR CAPITAL RENEWAL.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OPPOSITION TO THAT? NEXT ONE IS WINDOW REPAIR VERSUS WINDOW REPLACE AT CANYON VISTA VERSUS GRISHAM.

CANYON VISTA WAS A $3.6 MILLION WINDOW REPLACEMENT, AND GRISHAM WAS LIKE A $500,000 REPAIR, AND IT SAID THE WINDOWS AT GRISHAM WERE LIKE 54-YEARS-OLD.

WHAT WENT INTO THE DECISION OF WHY TO REPLACE VERSUS WHY TO REPAIR? BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE

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BEING EQUITABLE WITH OUR REALLY OLD WINDOWS.

>> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE DID LOOK AT THE DATA THAT WE HAD FROM HPM.

FOR SOME OF THESE, IT WAS JUST WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS LIFE CYCLE ISSUES.

FOR BOTH OF THOSE CAMPUSES, WE RECOMMENDED THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WAS IN OUR DEFICIENCIES LIST.

IT WAS JUST THAT THE PROJECT THAT WAS PROPOSED THERE WAS NOT THREE MILLION AT GRISHAM, AND WE REDUCED IT.

IT WAS THAT THE WINDOW PROJECT AT GRISHAM WAS 500,000 AND THE WINDOW PROJECT AT A CANYON VISTA WAS 3.5.

PART OF THAT IS JUST THE WAY THAT IT GETS USED OVER TIME.

THERE ARE JUST SO MANY DIFFERENCES WITH ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FULLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>> WELL, JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU CAN'T REPAIR CANYON VISTA OR WHY WE WOULDN'T REPLACE GRISHAM. [OVERLAPPING]

>> DAVID MAY HAVE AN ANSWER.

>> I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WINDOWS ARE NOT MY STRONG SUIT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THIS WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE THE FINAL REPORT.

>> SOME OF THESE WINDOWS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> AT WHICH CAMPUS?

>> ANY OF THEM THAT NEED REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.

THEY'RE BUILT WITH A AIR GAP BETWEEN THEM AND OVER TIME, WE'VE LOST THE EFFICACY OF THE WINDOWS, THE SEALS ARE BROKEN OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME OF THEM CAN JUST BE REPAIRED BY REMOVING THE GLASS, REPLACING THE SEAL AND PUTTING THE GLASS BACK IN.

SOME OF THEM WE CAN'T GET THE WINDOWS.

WE CAN'T GET THE DIFFERENT THINGS, THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE OR WE'VE GOT TO PUT A WHOLE NEW WINDOW IN.

THAT'S WHERE THE REPLACEMENT AND REPAIR COMES IN.

IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE WORK, BUT IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST REPAIR, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PREFER TO DO AND GET THEM BACK TO ORIGINAL DESIGN ORIGINAL STATE SO THAT THEY CAN BE USED THE WAY THEY DO.

>> THAT CLARIFIES. THANK YOU.

NEXT ONE WAS RIDGEVIEW NUMBER 4.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A 2.4 MILLION, I BELIEVE LOCKER REMOVAL.

WE HAVE LOCKERS AT ALMOST ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT AREN'T BEING USED.

WHY SPECIFICALLY JUST RIDGEVIEW TO REMOVE THOSE LOCKERS?

>> IT ACTUALLY ISN'T JUST RIDGEVIEW, I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE CAMPUSES WHERE IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE LOCKERS ARE SITUATED.

THERE ARE SOMEWHERE IT IS BUILT INTO THE WALLS, AND IN THAT CASE, THAT IS A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE PROJECT.

BUT FOR THOSE CAMPUSES THAT HAVE THEM ON THE EXTERIOR, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH THE WALL FINISHES, YOU'RE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE LOCKERS WITHOUT HAVING MAJOR REMODELS OF THOSE CAMPUSES, AND IT GAINS THEM THAT EXTRA SPACE IN PASSING PERIODS, WHICH IS A PAIN POINT IN ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

>> I DIDN'T CATCH THE OTHER TWO THAT ARE ON THERE, SO DON'T HAVE TO GET IT NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME KNOW LATER WHAT THOSE OTHER SCHOOLS ARE.

>> HOPEWELL AND HERNANDEZ.

>> TO REMOVE ALL OF THE LOCKERS IN THE WHOLE SCHOOL? I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THEY'RE UNDER THE PROJECT NAME, THEY'RE UNDER WALL FINISHES.

THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION HAS THE DETAILS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OH, IT'S UNDER WALL FINISHES?

>> THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION HAS THAT THE WALL FINISHES AT THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WILL BE REMOVING THE HALLWAY LOCKERS.

>> HOW COME RIDGEVIEW WAS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM JUST FOR LOCKERS? WASN'T IT? ANYWAY, WE CAN MOVE ON.

THE NEXT ONE WAS, TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE DANCE REVISION AT MCNEIL PROJECT NUMBER 6.

THAT'S A BRAND NEW SPACE, AND EVEN THE NOTE SAID, "I THINK WE CAN DO THIS FOR 1.4 MILLION." CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED THAT AND WHERE THAT RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM, AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT TEARING INTO A BRAND NEW FACILITY.

>> I MAY NOT BE CAPER ON IT, I THINK IT CAME FROM FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, ACTUALLY.

BUT THAT IS ONE WHERE THE NEW DANCE ADDITION THAT WAS PUT ON, WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, AND MELANIE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE OLD DANCE ROOM AND THE NEW DANCE ROOM AND THAT CONNECTOR DIDN'T GET CONSTRUCTED.

THE STUDENTS HAVE TO LEAVE THAT DANCE SPACE, AND GO INTO COMMON HALLWAYS.

THEY CAN'T EASILY GET INTO THE MAIN DANCE ROOM, WHICH IS WHAT'S CONNECTED TO THE LOCKER ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT, MELANIE?

>> THEN I THINK MY LAST QUESTION IS, AT FOREST NORTH, THERE'S TWO PROJECTS, NUMBER 2 AND NUMBER 14.

ONE OF THEM WAS A ASTRONOMICAL INCREASE FROM 300,000 TO A MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY THAT PROJECTING INCREASED SO MUCH?

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THAT'S ON NUMBER 14.

OH, NO, IT WENT FROM 500,000-3.4 MILLION.

>> OH, THAT'S THE DRAINAGE AND EROSION.

THAT ENDED UP GETTING COMBINED WITH A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

WITH THE DRAINAGE AND EROSION ISSUES RIGHT NOW IN FOREST NORTH, THE TEACHERS ARE PARKING ON GRASS, AND WHEN IT RAINS, THEY ARE WALKING DOWN INTO WHAT BECOMES A CREEK TO GET TO THE SCHOOL.

THEY HAD ASKED FOR SOME PARKING LOT.

AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH IMPERVIOUS STRUCTURE THERE, AND SO WE HAD WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT, AND WITH HPM, AND WE HAD COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO PUT IN ONE OF THOSE DRAINAGE GRATES.

BUT WHENEVER YOU ARE DEALING WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THAT LOCATION, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO PUT IN A RETENTION POND, AND SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THERE TO ADDRESS WHATEVER ENDS UP NEEDING TO BE DONE TO FULLY ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THERE.

>> THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS FOREST NORTH NUMBER 2.

THERE'S A NOTE ON HERE IN THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS LINE, AND THIS IS A DRAINAGE AND EROSION AS WELL FOR 3.5 MILLION AT FOREST NORTH, AND SO WE HAVE THAT ONE FOR 3.5 MILLION, AND WE HAVE 3.4 MILLION FOR THE ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE ONE, FOREST NORTH NUMBER 14 SAYS PEDESTRIAN PAVING AND THAT INCREASED 500,000-3.4 MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT, FOREST NORTH NUMBER 2 THAT'S 3.5 MILLION THAT SAYS PEDESTRIAN PAVING.

NO, THAT SAYS DRAINAGE AND EROSION.

THERE'S A NOTE IN THERE THAT SAYS, "DISTRICT, THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS PROJECT WITHOUT ENCROACHING BLAH BLAH BLAH." I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTE WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE THAT'S SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF BASIC SITE WORK AT FOREST NORTH, AND I'M FINE IF WE NEED IT, I JUST NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SEVEN MILLION.

>> YES. THE DRAINAGE AND EROSION IS AREAS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PAVED AND THEN THE PEDESTRIAN PAVING IS WHERE THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIDEWALKS AND OTHER STRUCTURES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR ACCESSING THE BUILDING.

>> PERFECT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY.

I JUST SPENT SO MUCH TIME GOING THROUGH THIS AND MY QUESTIONS JUST KEPT COMING.

>> BEFORE I GO AWAY, TRUSTEE MARKUM TALKED ABOUT PLAYGROUND FENCING EARLIER.

THE PLAYGROUND FENCING, UNLESS IT'S PART OF THE PERIMETER, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT TEA, SO SAFETY AND SECURITY, SO THAT MONEY IS INCLUDED IN OUR PLAYGROUND MONEY TO DO FENCING AROUND THE PLAYGROUNDS.

>> WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH.

LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

THIS WAS NOT GLAMOROUS STUFF.

IT IS 12:26.

TRUSTEES, DO WE NEED THE FULL 30-MINUTE BREAK FOR LUNCH? CAN WE DO 20 SINCE WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND? IF WE NEED MORE, WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE LONGER, BUT LET'S LOOK AT A 20-MINUTE RECESS AND COME BACK AT 12:45 FOR LUNCH AND NEEDED BREAKS.

WE'RE ON RECESS UNTIL 12:45.

>> YOU READY?

>> WE'RE READY? NO? OKAY.

>> YES.

>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

IT IS 12.50.

WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM H4, FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, AND SO ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SURE WHO I'M TURNING IT OVER TO START WITH.

>> THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE UP HERE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE FERNANDO ARAGUCI, AND COROVESA FROM THE FINES AND ATHLETICS.

>> AND JEREMY [INAUDIBLE].

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE GENERAL MONETARY VALUES AND THEN TALK WITH THE NOTES AND SOME OF THE DETAILS BEHIND EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS.

ON FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, WE STARTED OFF WITH 137 MILLION AT THE BEGINNING OF JULY, THEN AS THE FINAL REPORT GOT TO YOU ALL, WE WERE AT 136.1 MILLION PRETTY WELL SPREAD OUT EVENLY BETWEEN THE FINE ARTS AND THE ATHLETICS.

ONE OF THE DECISIONS WAS TO SEPARATE THE DRAGON STADIUM, ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS THERE, THAT'S THE 30 MILLION THAT IS LISTED THERE.

TALKING ABOUT EACH ONE OF THE CATEGORIES, WE DID BREAK OUT EACH ONE OF THE FINE ARTS AND I SAY,

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WE LINDSEY AND FABIAN DID MOST OF THIS WORK, GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT.

BUT WE DID BREAK OUT INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, AND LISTED THEM OUT SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE WE WERE ADDRESSING AND THE DIFFERENT ITEMS BETWEEN EACH, AND NOTED THAT SOME WERE SPECIFIC TO A CAMPUS, BUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THAT WERE DISTRICT WIDE.

IN THE ATHLETICS, AGAIN, IT'S ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE NEEDS WITHIN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED WITHIN A SPECIFIC CAMPUS, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WHILE THEY WERE IMPORTANT, WE DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO THEM BASED ON LIMITATIONS WITHIN EITHER THE CAMPUS OR OTHER REGULATORY THINGS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE DRAGON STADIUM.

AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TALKING, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE ATHLETIC NEEDS.

ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS, DO WE PUT IN A WHOLE NEW STADIUM? DO WE ADD IT TO AN EXPANSION WITH A NEW HIGH SCHOOL BASED ON DISCUSSIONS AND FEEDBACK? THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

WE ALSO DECIDED THAT IT WAS TOO GIVEN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT TO SUGGEST TO PUT IN A NEW STADIUM, SO THE OPTION WAS TO UPGRADE DRAGON STADIUM TO MAKE IT MORE OF A DISTRICT WIDE FACILITY? BECAUSE OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, AS YOU START ADDING THINGS, IT'S A SNOWBALL, YOU FIX ONE THING, YOU HAVE TO FIX OTHER THINGS, WHICH IS WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THAT ITEM.

THERE'S SOME NOTES THERE THAT BUILDING A NEW STADIUM TO BE SIMILAR TO KELLY REEVES WOULD BE A $60 MILLION PROPOSITION, AND TO JUST FIX DRAGON STADIUM AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT NEEDED FOR ADA, AND OTHER THINGS, WE'RE LOOKING AT $10 MILLION.

OUR DECISION WAS, LET'S DO A REBRANDING AND AN UPGRADE OF DRAGON STADIUM TO MAKE IT MORE OF A DISTRICT-WIDE AND REBRANDED AS THAT.

SOME OF THE ITEMS OF NOTE THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR STONY POINT AND CEDAR RIDGE, THERE WAS A NEED FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE OF AN EQUITY IN WHAT THEY HAD, SO GETTING THEIR CERAMICS LABS, ADDRESSING SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PRINCIPALS AND THE FINE ARTS DEPARTMENT REQUESTED, AND SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT INDEPENDENTLY OF THAT.

ONCE IT GAVE HIGHER UP WHEN IT CAME UP TO THE PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL, THERE WAS A DECISION.

ONE OF QUESTIONS WAS, DO WE TEAR DOWN A WALL, MAKE THE CLASSROOMS BIGGER FOR DANCE ROOMS, OR IS IT MORE FEASIBLE TO MAKE THOSE DANCE FACILITIES EQUITABLE THAT ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS HAD.

THERE IS A COST DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM WHERE WE INITIALLY STARTED TO WHERE THE END OF IT IS.

THE SECOND POINT THAT WE SEE HERE IS BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL THE FACILITIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT, WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO GO FROM GRASS TO TURF, AND THAT IS ACROSS ALL MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THEN THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

THAT CONVERSION IS A $28 MILLION CONVERSION, SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AS OTHER ITEMS. ON THE PACS, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WHETHER A NEW PACK SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE AT A DISTRICT WIDE OR A DISTRICT OWNED LAND, AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DO NOT PUT IN ANY NEW PACK OR NEW AUDITORIUM, BUT WE UPGRADE AND CHANGE THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO ADDRESS ANY NEEDS THAT THEY NEED FOR SOUND, SEATING, ANY OTHER VISUAL THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

ANOTHER SPECIFIC ITEM TO A CAMPUS IS WESTWOOD FOR A SOFTBALL AND LOCK ROOMS. CURRENTLY, THOSE FIELDS ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THE CAMPUS IS, SO THEY'RE NEEDED TO HAVE A FACILITATOR TO LOOK AT.

WE LOOKED AT ADDING SOMETHING, BUT ONCE YOU START LOOKING AT WHERE DO WE PUT THIS FIELD, THERE'S A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT.

DO WE TAKE THAT OUT AND ADD THINGS? IS THERE A PLACE TO PUT ANOTHER BUILDING TO HOUSES? WHAT WE WERE TOLD AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS, IF YOU START DOING THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, YOU HAVE TO GET DRAINAGE.

AFTER YOU DO THAT, YOU MAY THEN NOT HAVE ROOM TO PUT TWO FIELDS OUT THERE, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BOTH A BASEBALL AND A SOFTBALL FIELD.

ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS TO PUT IN, AND WE CALLED IT A PORTABLE TYPE BUILDING AND IT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

IT'S NOT A PORTABLE OUT THERE, BUT IT'S A MORE FIXED BUILDING THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE SOFTBALL AND THE BASEBALL.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MCNEIL, HAVING THEM ADD IN MORE FINE ARTS.

BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT,

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THERE IS A PHASE 3 FOR MCNEIL THAT IS IN PLACE, AND SO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD OR ADDING THINGS ADDRESS THAT, SOME OF THE OTHER WINGS.

THOSE WERE PUT OFF FOR THAT PHASE, AND WE JUST PUT IN THE ITEMS TO SAY, "WHEN THAT GETS DONE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED." WHEN THAT IS DONE AND NOT NECESSARILY SAY THIS BOND IS GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS. ANOTHER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE WERE ASKED ABOUT WAS COACHES.

COACHES WANT NEW FACILITIES, THEY WANT MEETING ROOMS, THEY WANT SPACES THAT THEY CAN USE.

WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS, YES, THAT WOULD BE NICE, BUT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE SPECIFIC AREAS FOR THEM.

GIVEN WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND THE OTHER PRIORITIES, WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE PRIORITIES AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, "OKAY, ATHLETICS, " ALL COACHES ARE GOING TO GET NEW FACILITIES FOR THEM.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT C. D. FULKES IN SPECIFIC.

IT'S A HISTORICAL BUILDING.

ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS WAS, LET'S FIX IT, ADDRESS IT, UPGRADE IT, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, AND THEN WE SAID, WELL, WHAT IS IT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING? TALK TO THE DISTRICT AND THEY SAID, "IT'S NOT REALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE OF A DISTRICT MEETING ROOM OR A CAMPUS SPACE.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE IT A FULL BLOWN AUDITORIUM.

WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE IT AND MAKE IT A MEETING SPACE AND SOMETHING THAT THE DISTRICT CO THEN USE." BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL BUILDING, LABEL ON IT, IT MAKES A LOT DIFFICULT TO SAY, "WE'RE GOING TO DO A MAJOR REVAMP OF THE SYSTEM." ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT WE HAD AND IT'S BEEN VOICED BEFORE IS, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE LIMITATIONS ABOUT DOING THINGS.

CANYON VISTA IS A CAMPUS THAT NEEDS SOME REVAMPING.

WE HAD MANY P1 ITEMS TO DO, AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT CAN WE DO SOME CONSTRUCTION.

BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LIMITATIONS ARE AS FAR AS NEW SPACES, THERE'S A POOL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE, THERE ISN'T MUCH MORE THAT WE CAN DO.

MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT WE LOOK FOR CANYON VISTA ARE EXISTING ITEMS THAT WE CAN BE ADDRESSING AS OPPOSED TO EXPANDING OR MAKING CHANGES TO THEM.

WE HAD AN ITEM FOR DEER PARK, IN ADDITION TO EXPANDING AND MAKING IT BETTER.

THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, AND WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO PUT THEM TOGETHER AS YOU START WORKING INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS TO MAKE ALL OF THEM AS ONE INDEPENDENT AND WORKING AT THE SAME TIME, GETTING EFFICIENCIES BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS TO GET THEM ALL DONE AT ONE.

WE HAVE MANY REQUESTS THAT WE HAD FOR PRESS BOXES AT THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES.

SOME OF THE PRESS BOXES, IT WAS AN ISSUE OF GETTING TO THEM.

THERE'S LARGE STEPS, SOME OF THEM ARE ADA COMPLIANT.

WE STARTED LOOKING AT SPECIFIC ONES AND THEN, HOW DO WE ADDRESS INDEPENDENT ONES? IT WAS A LOT BETTER TO REPLACE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A NEW PRESS BOX, YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE STANDS.

FOR CANYON VISTA, CEDAR VALLEY, CHISHOLM AND DEER PARK, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO JUST REPLACE THE STANDS AND PUT THOSE NEW PRESS BOXES TOGETHER INSTEAD OF MAKING LITTLE STEPS AT A TIME, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM.

FOR ROUND ROCK, THE STADIUM AND DUGOUT, WE'VE DECIDED ON MAKING CORRECTIONS TO THE BLEACHERS, THE DUGOUT, AND REFURBISHMENTS.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MAKING SEPARATE LOCKER ROOMS, SO WHATEVER THERE IS IN PLACE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL DO.

IT'S STRICTLY THE FIELDS, ADDRESSING THE FENCING, THE BACKSTOPS, AND ADDRESSING THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE DUGOUTS AND THE BLEACHERS.

AGAIN, THE P1 WERE 137.7 MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE THE DRAGON STADIUM, WHICH IS AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT AT 30 MILLION.

>> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF LIGHTS ON ALREADY, AND SO I'LL START WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON.

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

PRESIDENT LANDRUM, MY QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR THE COMMITTEE.

WHAT DATA SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULD BUILD A DISTRICT-WIDE FACILITY WEST ON A LANDLOCKED CAMPUS, SO THAT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM?

>> WHEN WE LOOKED AT DOING A STADIUM, IT WAS A LOT MORE FEASIBLE TO TAKE WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.

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DRAGON STADIUM DID NEED TO HAVE SOME UPGRADES REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, AND IT WAS MORE FEASIBLE TO WORK ON WHERE IT WAS.

WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT MOVING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

AGAIN, BECAUSE WE SAID, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STADIUM, WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

>> I KNOW THAT THAT STADIUM NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE, AND AS SOON AS YOU TOUCH A STADIUM, IT HAS TO BE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, SO I SEE THE LOGIC.

I JUST ALSO KNOW IN TERMS OF EQUITY, WE HAVE TWO WEST FACILITIES AND NONE OF OUR EAST SIDE SCHOOLS REALLY HAVE ANY FOOTBALL OR ATHLETIC FACILITIES.

WAS THAT EVER PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT ALL?

>> THE INITIAL DISCUSSION WAS ON A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW HIGH SCHOOL SOMEWHERE.

IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THAT'S WHERE A NEW STADIUM WOULD BE.

BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT THE INITIAL LONG RANGE PLAN HAD, THERE WAS NOT A COMMUNITY DESIRE TO BUILD IN A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THE DISTRICT DID NOT LOOK AT SAYING, "WE NEED A NEW HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW." BECAUSE OF THAT, WE LOOKED AT WHERE WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE A STADIUM, AND NOT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WENT INTO ABOUT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

THE DECISION AND THE FEASIBILITY WAS, "DO WE SPEND, AS YOU MENTIONED, 10 MILLION START MAKING CHANGES TO DRAGON STADIUM? THEN YOU'RE GOING, "WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE CHANGES, IT'S BETTER IF YOU JUST DO IT THERE." AT SOME POINT, YES, YOU MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS ANOTHER STADIUM AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

BUT IF YOU UPGRADE IT AND BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT AS WELL, IS IF YOU HAVE THOSE TWO STADIUMS, YOU COULD ADDRESS THE USE OF THEM CURRENTLY WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

IT DOESN'T ADDRESS HAVING THE STADIUM ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT IT DOES ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT THE DISTRICT HAS RIGHT NOW FOR ATHLETICS AND THE USE OF THOSE TWO STADIUMS. THANK YOU.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS BE RELATIVELY EQUAL.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK THEY'RE BOTH VERY IMPORTANT IN THE LIVES IN THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STUDENTS. THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP ON THE DRAGON STADIUM BEFORE I GO TO THE OTHER LIGHTS, BUT, THE $10 MILLION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID TO TOUCH THAT.

WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT 10 MILLION FOR DRAGON STADIUM IF WE JUST DID THE BASIC UPGRADES? THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT BEFORE SCOTT COMES IS, DID YOU TALK ABOUT REBRANDING THE NAME DRAGON STADIUM AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A DISTRICT FACILITY, DID THE COMMUNITY CONSIDER REMOVING THE NAME DRAGON STADIUM AND HOW THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED AS WELL.

THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAGON STADIUM.

>> SURE. THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE 10 MILLION, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS, AND IT WOULD COVER SOME OF THOSE ADA THINGS AS WELL.

THE EXTRA 20 MILLION IS TO IMPROVE IT AND INCREASE THE CAPACITY A BIT TO BE MORE COMPARABLE WITH KELLY REEVES.

>> WOULD YOU MIND GETTING US A LIST, OBVIOUSLY NOT TODAY, BUT JUST WHAT THAT 10 MILLION EXACTLY WOULD INCLUDE OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THEN TO THE NAME QUESTION.

>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING AT, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE UPGRADING DRAGON STADIUM AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY AND THE VISUAL LOOK OF IT IS ROUND ROCK IS NOW GETTING A KELLY REEVES STADIUM AS OPPOSED TO THE DISTRICT IS GETTING A KELLY REEVES STADIUM, AND WE FELT IT WOULD BE MORE BETTER FOR US AS FAR AS THE BOND, AND OUR LOOK IS, WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER DISTRICT STADIUM.

NOT NECESSARILY A HIGH SCHOOL IS GETTING A BRAND NEW STADIUM.

>> BUT DID YOU TALK ABOUT TAKING THE NAME DRAGON STADIUM OFF OF IT AND HOW THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED?

>> IN THE DETAILS OF DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT, DO WE LEAVE DRAGON STADIUM AS THE STADIUM AND THEN NAME THE FIELD, SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE THE WAY OTHER SCHOOLS? NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE DISTRICT.

OTHER PLACES DO WHERE THE STADIUM IS CALLED SOMETHING IN THE FIELD IS CALLED SOMETHING.

WE DID NOT ADDRESS HOW WE WOULD NAME IT.

WE JUST SAID, "YOU NEED TO REBRAND IT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A DISTRICT-WIDE STADIUM." WHETHER DRAGON IS PART OF THE NAME OR NOT, WE DID NOT DISCUSS THAT.

>> THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER TRUSTEES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY WITH DRAGON STADIUM.

NEXT IS TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD AGAIN, JUST LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE.

I NOTICED THAT YOU ALL HAD THE MOST MEETINGS OF ANY SUBCOMMITTEE, SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION.

THAT'S A LOT OF TIME THAT WE KNOW YOU THAT YOU PUT IN.

ACTUALLY, MADAM CHAIR, MY FIRST QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR EITHER THE ADMINISTRATION OR FOR HPM ABOUT GRISHAM.

BECAUSE UNLIKE CANYON VISTA, WHERE WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF CITY IN AUSTIN, GRISHAM IS UNDER VERY SIMILAR CONSTRAINTS, AND THERE'S A NOTE FROM HPM IN OUR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS,

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AND I KNOW WHEN I ASKED MY QUESTION, THE DISTRICT SAID THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO MORE FEASIBILITY.

BEFORE WE MAKE A $7 MILLION PROMISE TO THAT COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN WE WILL KNOW IF IT'S FEASIBLE.

>> I S THAT AN HPM QUESTION OR IS THAT AN ADMINISTRATION QUESTION?

>> WE CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER.

WE DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY.

JUST GIVEN THE FLOODPLAIN ON THAT SITE, WE JUST PUT THE WEIGHT ROOM THERE, AND WE'D HAVE TO BASICALLY, PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WEIGHT ROOM OR ON THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK.

IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ADDITION ON THERE, IT'S JUST NOT A SITE THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO EXPANSION, MUCH LIKE CANYON VISTA.

>> YOU'RE REFERRING TO GRISHAM PROJECT NUMBER 16?

>> YES.

>> SO IS NOW THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE THAT FROM MOVING FORWARD?

>> WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY, BUT IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT. IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

>> SO THAT'S A FUTURE CONVERSATION FOR US THEN.

>> THEN, MADAM CHAIR, MY OTHER QUESTION IS REGARDING TURF.

I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO GET TURF WET.

MAYBE IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS WATERING ACTUAL GRASS, BUT WHAT IS THE WATER CONSUMPTION OF TURF VERSUS GRASS? IS THERE A SPECIAL TURF NOW THAT IT'S HOTTER NOW FOR MUCH LONGER PERIODS OF TIME IN TEXAS, OVER 100 DEGREES, AND THE MAINTENANCE ON TURF COMPARED TO GRASS?

>> THE EASIEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT, I'M NOT 100% FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS REQUIRED, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE I BELIEVE IT'S 11 OTHER FIELDS IN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE USING ARTIFICIAL TURF TODAY, INCLUDING KELLY REEVES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING SPECIAL WITH WATER TO PREPARE THE FIELDS.

WE JUST USE IT AS IS.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING TOO HOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO BE USED.

>> THE COACH IS HERE ALSO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THANK YOU.

>> I'VE BEEN IN THE DISTRICT FOR 14 YEARS AND I WAS HERE IN THE DRAGON, AND ALL THE TURF FIELDS, WE HAVE EIGHT TURF FIELDS IN THE DISTRICT, WE'VE NEVER WATERED THEM. NEVER.

>> IS THAT ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, TRUSTEE WEIR? GREAT. NEXT IS TRUSTEE MARKUM.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAGON STADIUM CONVERSION AND POTENTIALLY TURNING THAT INTO A KELLY REEVES-TYPE STADIUM.

ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT USED TO SHARING THAT STADIUM NECESSARILY THE WAY THAT WE WOULD IF IT WERE TURNED INTO A KELLY REEVES STADIUM. SORRY.

>> IT'S SHARED ALL THE TIME.

THE OTHER CAMPUSES HAVE THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES THERE.

>> IS IT SHARED IN THE SAME WAY THAT KELLY REEVES IS THOUGH?

>> YES.

>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE IN PLACE FOR THAT AS WELL TO HANDLE THAT CAPACITY IF IT WAS CONVERTED TO SHARING THE SAME WAY THAT KELLY REEVES WOULD.

THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

THE LOGISTICS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS PARKING.

>> PARKING IS A PROBLEM, BUT I [OVERLAPPING].

>> CEDAR RIDGE HAS BEEN A HOME TEAM AT DRAGON STADIUM BEFORE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

IS THAT BUILT INTO THAT COST?

>> IT'S A SEPARATE COST. GO AHEAD.

>> THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AS PART OF THE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY.

I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN THAT THE COMMITTEE NOTED, AND THAT'S WHERE IT SAYS MASTER PLAN APPROPRIATE ALONGSIDE THE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL PLANS.

THAT'S WHERE WHAT TO DO WITH SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT MAY BE TORN DOWN, MAYBE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE PARKING.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIGGER FOOTPRINT OR MORE CAPACITY AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL OR AT THAT STADIUM, YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEED TO HAVE MORE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE ATTENDING THOSE EVENTS.

IT GOES ALL ALONG LIKE WHAT LEGAL WAS SAYING EARLIER IS THAT THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE CARVED OUT SEPARATELY, BUT THEN THEY STILL HAVE TO BE MASTER PLANNED ALONGSIDE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY BE TOUCHING THE CAMPUS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN THAT COST, BUT IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST THAT POTENTIALLY IS UNDER A LARGER NUMBER, BUT WE'RE NOT CARVING THAT OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STADIUM.

>> IT WOULD LIKELY BE ABLE TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE 120 MILLION.

I THINK THAT WAS FOR THE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL MASTER PLAN.

>> THEN I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THE REBRANDING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS POTENTIALLY GREAT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT,

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AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT'S HAD THAT BRANDING IN THAT STADIUM FOR A LONG TIME.

THEN THE TURF. I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY.

BUT I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT LIFE-CYCLE AND THE ANSWER WAS 10 YEARS.

IS IT AN $800,000 COST EVERY 10 YEARS TO REPLACE IT? IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET NUMBERS TO COMPARE THAT AGAINST MAINTAINING THE FIELDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ARE NOT TURF?

>> THERE ISN'T. BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WHETHER YOU SHOULD REPLACE THE GRASS WITH TURF, THE COMPARISONS THAT ARE GENERALLY OUT THERE, WHAT'S BETTER OR NOT IS TO LOOK AT A TURF AND A GRASS AND A GRASS THAT IS WELL MAINTAINED.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE GRASSES THAT WE HAVE ON FIELDS ARE NOT AS WELL MAINTAINED AS THEY SHOULD BE.

WHETHER YOU DID TURF OR NOT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO REPLACE AND REPAIR THE CURRENT GRASS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO THAT 10-YEAR FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE TURF WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO, LET'S GO OUT TO THE GRASS AND TAKE IT ALL APART, FIX IT.

>> IT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO INCREASING RESOURCES FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE GRASS.

>> I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS.

AS TO THE SAFETY OF THE FIELDS PLAYING ON THOSE FIELDS, OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT DOES THE ABSOLUTE BEST THEY CAN, BUT OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING SOMETHING TO AN I&S BUDGET OUT OF THE M&O BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SAFE FACILITIES FOR OUR ATHLETES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THIS IS THE MOST FEASIBLE WAY TO DO THAT TO SAVE MONEY ON THE M&O SIDE AND MOVE THAT INTO A LONG TERM I&S PROJECT.

CERTAINLY, IT SEEMS ASTRONOMICAL TO TURF MIDDLE SCHOOLS, BUT RIGHT NOW THE FIELDS ARE IN SUCH BAD CONDITION AND ARE SO DANGEROUS THAT IT REALLY WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND WOULD HELP OUT THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE OF SAFE FACILITIES.

>> IF I MIGHT ADD TO WHAT MS. VESSA IS SAYING IS ALSO HAVING TURF, THERE'S PROS AND CONS FOR EVERYTHING.

BUT ANOTHER PRO ABOUT HAVING TURF IS ALSO ALLOWING STUDENTS TO REALLY PLAY MORE OFTEN.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF IT RAINS AND REALLY RAINS BAD, YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT TWO OR THREE DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN ALLOW THEM TO GO OUTSIDE THERE.

WHEREAS IF IT'S TURF, YOU REALLY CAN GO BACK RIGHT AFTER THUNDERSTORM WHERE THE RAIN IS PASSED.

IT ALSO ALLOW MORE PLAYTIME AND ALLOW STUDENTS TO USE THOSE FIELDS MORE OFTEN.

>> THAT WAS DEFINITELY A HUGE PART OF THE DESIRE FOR THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL COMMUNITIES TO HAVE TURF FIELDS.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY EVEN AFTER INCLEMENT WEATHER.

I KNOW THAT DURING THE LATEST ROUND OF PLAYOFFS, WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR HOME GAMES AWAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE FIELDS THAT WERE AVAILABLE THAT WERE IN A GOOD ENOUGH CONDITION TO ACTUALLY PLAY ON.

>> THANK YOU.

>> QUICK FOLLOW-UP. ARE YOU PROPOSING TO GETTING RID OF THE DIRT INFIELD THEN IN THE BASEBALL AND STADIUM AND TURF THE WHOLE?

>> IT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE THING.

IT DID COME UP ON OUR COMMITTEE THAT THAT IS UNLIKE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN COLLEGE OR PROFESSIONAL.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS I TALKED TO MOST OF THE BASEBALL COACHES IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEY WERE SO IN FAVOR OF TURFING.

THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO SAID I DON'T WANT TO TURF BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO PRACTICE AND PLAY RIGHT AFTER INCLEMENT WEATHER.

THEIR PEAK SEASON IS OUR BIGGEST RAINY SEASON.

MAY IS OUR MOST RAINY MONTH IN AUSTIN, AND IT MEANS THAT THEY CAN'T PRACTICE OR PLAY IN THEIR PEAK SEASON.

>> ONE LAST FOLLOW-UP ON THE TURF.

WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT USE OUR FIELDS, ESPECIALLY AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WHAT KIND OF CHANGES WOULD WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR COMMUNITY TO NOW BE USING SOMETHING LIKE TURF THAT THEY MAY NOT TAKE CARE OF IT AS MUCH AS WE AS A DISTRICT WOULD? WOULD WE HAVE TO LIMIT COMMUNITY USE OF THESE TURF FIELDS AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS? MY SON PRACTICED ON RIDGEVIEW'S DIRT STUFF.

HOW WOULD WE MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITY USING OUR FACILITIES WOULD BE ABLE TO PROTECT IT?

>> YOU WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE AN INCREASED USE OF YOUR FACILITIES, WHICH WILL BE BETTER FOR YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT ALSO WILL HELP THE DISTRICT THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE DISTRICT AS THEY LEASE THE FACILITIES.

BUT THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE FIELD IS NOT GOING TO BE TO

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THE POINT WHERE YOU WILL HAVE TO REPLACE IT EARLIER THAN A 10-YEAR MARK.

>> DO WE CHARGE COMMUNITY TO JUST COME ON? WE JUST USED RIDGEVIEW'S FACILITIES.

>> HE'S TALKING ABOUT LEAGUES LIKE LITTLE LEAGUES USE IN [OVERLAPPING].

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT PRACTICES.

>> I KNOW.

>> OUR COMMUNITY JUST GOES OUT AND USES OUR FACILITIES, WHICH I'M GLAD.

ANYWAY, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE IF Y'ALL CONSIDERED THAT.

>> A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT IS IT DOES BECOME AN EQUITY ISSUE IF YOU DO END UP HAVING TO CLOSE.

THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES IN THIS AREA THAT AREN'T CLOSED OFF, AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND PRACTICE.

THEN IT BECOMES A YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PRACTICE OR PAY TO BE ON A TEAM.

THEN WHO THEN HAS OPPORTUNITY IN SCHOOL? IT BECOMES THE PEOPLE WHO COULD PAY EARLY ON TO PRACTICE AND PLAY.

THAT'S WHERE OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES COME INTO USE WHERE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN USE THOSE FACILITIES.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

IT DOES BECOME AN EQUITY ISSUE, AND THE MORE WE INVEST IN IT, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS WE CLOSE IT OFF TO THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.

>> WELL, I HOPE NOT. WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE IT, BUT I THINK WHAT DENNIS WAS TALKING ABOUT IS MORE LIKE THESE ARE LITTLE LEAGUES OR THEY CHARGE KIDS OR FAMILIES MONEY.

USUALLY, THEY'RE TEAMS. INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS USING OUR TRACK, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

I'M NOT SEEING ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IN MY ANSWER IS THAT THE FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I THINK I'M DIRECTING THIS, MADAM PRESIDENT TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT THE FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE BLEACHER AND PRESS BOX RENOVATIONS ALREADY HAD ADA ISSUES, AND SO IT'S MORE EFFICIENT JUST TO REPLACE ALL OF IT AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AT THE SAME TIME.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER I RECEIVED.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU. I THINK I'M NOTICING A THEME HERE.

THIS BOARD APPEARS TO BE INTERESTED IN THE DRAGON STADIUM, LOT OF QUESTIONS, TURF, AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THE BASEBALL FIELD THOUGH AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.

IS THAT THE ONE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT THAT HAS THE DUGOUTS THAT THE KIDS WERE HITTING THEIR HEADS?

>> YES.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> WHERE DO YOU GET THE NUMBER FIVE MILLION FOR THAT?

>> IT WAS A NUMBER THAT WE APPLIED BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WE IDENTIFIED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN APPLIED A SQUARE FOOT COST TO IT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE BILLION-DOLLAR BOND.

WHAT CAN WE DO AS A BOARD TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND THESE DOLLAR FIGURES? WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THERE?

>> I'M NOT SURE REALLY WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.

WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS DECIDING WHAT MAKES THE BOND OR NOT, THAT WOULD MAKE THE PRICE GO UP OR DOWN.

BUT IF YOU NEED GREATER UNDERSTANDING ON THE COST OF A PROJECT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?

>> I GUESS SO.

>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT THOSE IN WRITING AND ASK FOR MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT FIVE-MILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT.

I GET THAT IT'S A SQUARE FOOT TIMES THE NUMBER OF DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT, BUT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT? DOES THAT INCLUDE BENCHES AND CONCRETE, REPAVING? I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND HOW THEY GOT TO THAT NUMBER, I WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING THAT IN WRITING.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY DESIRE WOULD BE A FEW MILLION HERE, A FEW MILLION THERE PRETTY SOON YOU'RE AT A BILLION DOLLARS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SELLABLE THAT IS, AND I GUESS I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THESE DOLLAR FIGURES WHEN IT COMES TO DRAGON STADIUM.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. I'M JUST SAYING MY THOUGHTS ON THE WAY THIS PROCESS IS GOING IS THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE DIVE MUCH DEEPER INTO ON AUGUST 1ST.

TODAY WAS MORE OF A LISTENING AND RECEIVING WHAT THE COMMITTEE BROUGHT FORWARD AND WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE THE BEST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THEY DID.

THEN THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE FOR US TO DIGEST THIS AND DECIDE, THIS HERE IS THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WHAT CAN WE REALLY STOMACH AND WHAT BANG FOR YOUR BUCK? THAT'S WHAT I ENVISIONED FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND THE NEXT SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS TO BE.

>> I'LL START WITH TURF AND THEN I'LL GET TO DRAGON STADIUM.

I THINK WELCOME BACK TO THE BOARD ROOM FORMER TRUSTEE VESSA.

I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU SAID IS WHAT'S DRIVING THAT.

IS THAT WHAT'S DRIVING IT? IS THIS A DESIRE TO TAKE WEIGHT OFF OF THE M&O BUDGET AND SHIFT IT TO THE I&S BUDGET? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ROOTED IN?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY WHAT THEY SAID, BUT YOU KNOW ME.

I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THAT.

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THEIR ISSUE WAS THAT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE GOOD FACILITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS IN SUCH A WAY AS TO PROVIDE REALLY NICE FACILITIES FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY.

I THINK THAT WAS THEIR DRIVING REASON BEHIND IT.

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD ON TO THAT?

>> JUST IN LOOKING AT THE CURRENT FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER, HAVING TO MAINTAIN IT AND HAVING STAFF AVAILABLE TO DO THAT, IF YOU GO TO TURF, THAT STAFF IS NOT REQUIRED TO DO AS MUCH WORK.

NOT THAT THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE WORK DONE, BUT THE FACILITIES WOULD LAST THROUGH THE YEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THAT.

AS IT WAS MENTIONED, IT COULD BE USED MORE OFTEN, AND THERE ISN'T AN ADDITIONAL COST TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO USE IT.

THE FACILITY IS AVAILABLE, THE TURF IS THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO IN AND REFILL POTHOLES.

WE MENTIONED RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO TO SOME FIELDS, THERE'S LUMPS AND THINGS IN THERE THAT HAVE TO BE FIXED AS SCHOOL STARTS.

NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT, [NOISE] I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE FACILITIES, MAINTAIN THOSE FIELDS, WHEREAS IF YOU HAD TURF, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT TIME.

>> AS DR. AZAIEZ, YOU SAID, I THINK THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EVERYTHING.

YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PROS.

ONE OF YOU GUYS MENTIONED SAFETY.

I'LL TELL YOU, MY DAUGHTER HAS SCORED A LOT OF GOALS AT DRAGON STADIUM IN SOCCER, WHICH IS A GRASS FIELD, BUT SHE BLEW OUT HER MCL AT A TOP-TIER VANDEGRIFT HIGH SCHOOL IN LEANDER ISD TURF FIELD, WHICH WAS BILLED AND PROPOSED AS THE SAFEST FIELD IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

I JUST SAY THAT TO SAY NOTHING IS A GUARANTEE.

IT'S NOT THAT IF WE SPEND $28 MILLION IN TURF, NO ONE'S GOING TO GET HURT.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE MESSAGE THAT'S HEARD HERE. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?

>> NO, I JUST WANT TO EXPOUND ON IT.

WE DID LOOK AT COMPARISONS OF INJURIES.

>> BUT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, AS WE MENTIONED, THE COMPARISONS ARE TO GRASS FIELDS THAT ARE IN PERFECT CONDITION.

IF YOU HAD TURF FIELDS AND THEN YOU COMPARE IT TO A GRASS FIELD THAT IS LEVEL, THE GRASS IS AT THE RIGHT HIDE, IT'S WATERED AND MAINTAINED APPROPRIATELY, THAT'S WHERE THE COMPARISONS OF INJURIES.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THAT OUR FIELDS AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THAT PERFECT CONDITION.

YES YOU MAY GET SOMEBODY WHO GETS HURT ON THE TURF THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN HURT ON GRASS, BUT IT'S THE MATTER OF THAT GRASS IS NOT IN THE PERFECT CONDITION RIGHT NOW.

>> I'LL SAY I THINK I'M THE ONLY TRUSTEE UP HERE WHO'S HAD KIDS GO THROUGH ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.

WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS REBRAND, AMBER TOUCHED INTO IT, I HAD A VISCERAL INITIAL REACTION.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST AS A MEMBER.

I KNOW COREY YOU'RE IN WESTWOOD.

ARE YOU ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, YOU HAVE KIDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL? DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE YOU THINK THAT DOGS ARE GOING TO HUNT?

>> WELL, BEING AT THE COMMITTEE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE UNANIMOUS DECISIONS.

I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH NOT GETTING RID OF THE BRAND BECAUSE IF WE DO DECIDE IN FIVE YEARS TO BUILD A NEW STADIUM ON THE EAST SIDE, THEN WE'D HAVE TO PAY TO REBRAND IT BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE BOTH SIDES HAPPY.

I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THAT COULD BE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO KEEP THE INITIAL BRANDING, BUT SOFTEN IT A LITTLE BIT.

>> WELL, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT DRAGON STADIUM, VOLUNTEERING IN THE CONCESSIONS AND SITTING IN THE STANDS.

THERE ARE RAMPS. CAN WE COME BACK TO THE GENESIS OF DRAGON STADIUM? CAN WE START AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONVERSATION AND THE WHY?

>> THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

>> I DO WANT TO ADDRESS.

MY DAUGHTER PLAYS AT OR DOESN'T PLAY SHE'S ON THE DANCE TEAM.

THEY'RE AT DRAGON STADIUM.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT OUR HOME GAME BECOMES DRAGON STADIUM, AND OUR FOOTBALL TEAM LOOKS AT IT AND SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY OUR STADIUM, WE'RE PLAYING AT ROUND ROCK STADIUM.

AGAIN, WE CAME TO A CONSENSUS TO SAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT REBRANDING IT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT ROUND ROCK FOOTBALL STADIUM.

OTHER SCHOOLS THAT PLAY HOME GAMES THERE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, WELL, THAT'S OUR HOME TEAM, OUR HOME GAME.

WE'RE NOT PLAYING AT ROUND ROCK, WE'RE PLAYING AT A STADIUM THAT'S THE DISTRICT.

>> I WOULD SAY TOO THAT WHEN YOU BRAND IT AS A DISTRICT-WIDE FACILITY, THEN THAT'S AN EASIER SELL TO THE DISTRICT, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, TO SAY, YES, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS FACILITY, BUT IT'S YOURS TOO.

IT'S NOT JUST ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL'S, IT'S THE WHOLE DISTRICT'S FACILITY. THERE'S THAT.

BUT CERTAINLY I DON'T LIVE IN THESE BOUNDARIES SO I DON'T KNOW THE ATTACHMENT THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THE BOARD HAS TO CONSIDER.

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WE'RE A COMMITTEE. WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, AND YOU ALL AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THOSE FEELINGS.

WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU TO MAKE THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

WE'RE JUST BRINGING YOU THE NEED IN TERMS OF THE ADA STUFF.

THE WAY THEY'RE CURRENTLY THEIR PRESS BOXES, THERE'S NO ACCESS, THEIR ACCESS ISN'T ADA COMPLIANT.

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO THE PRESS BOX IF YOU HAVE ADA ISSUES.

IN ORDER TO BRING THAT TO A STANDARD, YOU'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT IT IN AN ELEVATOR, STUFF LIKE THAT.

A LOT OF THE THINGS AT DRAGON STADIUM ARE ADA-COMPLIANT.

THOSE ARE USED BLEACHERS.

WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THEM FROM LEANDER HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE OLD BIBLE STADIUM BLEACHERS.

THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS OF ADA COMPLIANCE, BUT THE ACCESS TO THE PRESS BOX IS NOT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT DRAGON STADIUM?

>> ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH AND ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE THEIR TWO MINUTES AND COME BACK.

IS THAT OKAY OR DO YOU HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS TO WRAP UP THAT TOPIC?

>> I FEEL LIKE I DIDN'T REALLY GET MY ANSWER ABOUT THE GENESIS OF ROUND ROCK STADIUM.

>> THEN WHY DON'T WE COME BACK SINCE YOU WANT TO DIVE DEEPER INTO IT.

LET'S COME BACK. I HAVE TWO OTHER LIGHTS ON.

BECAUSE I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF US HAVING PLENTY OF TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO LET'S GO ON AND WE'LL COME BACK. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

>> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT MY QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR ADMINISTRATION, PROBABLY, COACH CHEATHAM, BUT CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW ARE WE MANAGING WITH JUST REALLY TWO STADIUMS RIGHT NOW ACROSS ALL THE TEAMS AND HOW WOULD THIS IMPROVEMENT HELP WITH THAT SITUATION IN TERMS OF FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL.

I KNOW WE'RE IN TEXAS.

>> IS THIS AN ADMINISTRATION? OH, STAFF, OKAY.

>> YEAH. WELL, SPEAKING TO WHERE WE'RE GOING IS, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOME IMPROVEMENTS, MUCH NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME AT DRAGON STADIUM.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, AND I THINK I'M GOING WITH YOUR QUESTION IS THAT AS WE GROW AND WE BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, ONCE WE BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY.

THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAYS, NIGHTS ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.

THAT BRINGS A WHOLE ANOTHER LOGISTICS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THAT.

WE'RE MAKING IT WORK AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE EVEN NEXT YEAR WITH THE WAY WE GOT EVERYTHING WORDED, WHERE WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AN EXTRA DOUBLE HEADER JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE GAMES IN THAT WE NEED TO PLAY.

>> DOUBLE HEADER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL? OKAY, WOW. THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

>> WE ADDED A HUDDLE TO THE SCHEDULE.

>> YEAH, WE HAVE A 19TH DISTRICT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU YEAH, THAT'S JUST FOR DRAGON STADIUM, YES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CONTEXT.

>> CAN I ADD TO THAT? THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT JUST TO GO BACK SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS RECEIVED AN ANSWER.

I WILL THROW OUT A DISCLAIMER.

I DO HAVE AN ATTACHMENT TO ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL SO MAYBE THERE'S BIAS.

I WILL TRY TO BE AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THERE WAS DISCUSSION WHERE WE DID TRY TO CHANGE THE NAME OF DRAGON STADIUM, BECAUSE THE THOUGHT AT THE TIME WAS THAT WE HAVE CAMPUSES THAT ARE USING IT AS THEIR HOME STADIUM WHEN THEY PLAY FOOTBALL GAMES.

THERE WAS A CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT WAS NOT FAIR, THAT I'M PLAYING AT MY HOME GAME THAT IS CALLED SOMETHING ELSE AND SPECIFICALLY ATTACHED TO ANOTHER CAMPUS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE COMMUNITY FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, ALSO PUSHED BACK AND SAID, THEN WE WILL NOT HAVE A STADIUM BELONG SPECIFICALLY TO US, NOT A STADIUM, BUT A FOOTBALL FIELD THAT SPECIFICALLY TO US LIKE EVERY OTHER CAMPUS HAS.

THEN WE WILL LOSE THE ABILITY THEN TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S ATTACHED TO US WHILE EVERY OTHER CAMPUS WILL HAVE THAT.

THAT WAS THE PUSH AND PULL, THAT TENSION BETWEEN THAT.

IN THE END, WHAT WAS DECIDED WAS THE NAME WAS KEPT, DRAGON STADIUM WAS KEPT, BUT THEY RENAMED THE FIELD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE EVER LOOKS DOWN AT THE FIELD, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIELD, IT'S NAMED AFTER DR. PETERS, WHO WAS A LONG TIME WORKED WITH THE DRAGON STUDENTS ATHLETES HERE.

THE FIELD ITSELF IS ALREADY NAMED, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIELD, YOU'LL SEE THAT NAME ON THE FIELD.

BUT THERE IS COACH CHEATHAM IS TRYING TO BE VERY NICE.

WE HAVE MADE THE SCHEDULE WORK WITH TWO FEELS IN ORDER TO PLAY OUR GAMES.

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BUT TYPICALLY, YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, A LITTLE BIT MORE WIGGLE ROOM, BECAUSE THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SCHEDULE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THIS CAMPUS, YOU HAVE NOT JUST THE FOOTBALL TEAM, BUT A DIFFERENT ATHLETIC TEAMS HAVING TO USE, AND SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SCHEDULE.

HOW DO WE GET SOCCER TO SCHEDULE? SOMETIMES OUR TC MAY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT TEAMS, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHO GETS TO USE THE FIELD WHEN.

THEN ONCE WE HAVE TO ALSO ADD THE GAMES INTO IT, IT DOES PUSH INTO THE SCHEDULE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS AS FAR AS AVAILABILITY.

WE HAVE LIVED WITH THIS FOR SO LONG THOUGH, IT'S A MATTER OF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE.

IT DOESN'T SEEM ATYPICAL, BUT IT IS ATYPICAL.

THAT'S NOT, USUALLY IF YOU TALK TO DISTRICTS AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULING, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAVE.

I WOULD JUST GIVE THAT FEEDBACK.

>> CAN I ADD TO IT. IT'S A TOTAL NIGHTMARE ALSO PARKING.

WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT, PARENTS COMING TO WATCH THEIR KIDS PLAY OR CHEER FOR THEIR TEAM, THEY HAVE TO LITERALLY FIND A SPOT TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET.

THE CHAIRS ACROSS, IT'S NOT RIGHT.

IMAGINE YOU GOING TO WATCH YOUR KIDS PLAY AND YOU HAVE TO REALLY SPEND AN HOUR JUST LOOKING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PARK BEFORE I CAN GET TO THE GAME.

THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS WITH THAT TOO.

THE SCOREBOARD IS ANOTHER NIGHTMARE.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YEAR IT WAS BUILT, THAT THE SCOREBOARD?

>> I THINK THE LAST TIME I HEARD IT WAS '92.

>> 1992. WE HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO FIND PIECES TO WHENEVER IT GOES OFF.

>> COACH [INAUDIBLE] IN THE BACK.

HE'S THE STADIUM MANAGER AND OVER HERE, AND HE'S HOLDING HIS BREATH EVERY MOMENT AT ANY TIME TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT THING DOESN'T GO DOWN.

>> THAT'S WILD. HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE ON MY TIME?

>> FIFTY THREE SECONDS.

>> I'M SO GOOD. I HAVE ONE MORE SMALL QUESTION AND THAT WAS, WERE THERE ANY OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES DISCUSSED TO [INAUDIBLE] MADAM CHAIR.

THIS WILL PROBABLY BE COMMITTEE AND PERHAPS STAFF.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER TYPES OF ATHLETIC FACILITIES DISCUSSED? WE'RE ON THE RISE IN BASKETBALL.

I WONDER IF THAT'S COMPETITIVE.

THE SECOND THING IS, ARE WE PLANNING TO ADD ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL UIL SPORTS? I KNOW LACROSSE IS COMING TO TEXAS, THAT WOULD REQUIRE FIELD USE AS WELL?

>> TO THE LACROSSE, CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT A UIL SPORT, IT'S STILL A CLUB.

>> WERE ANY OTHER FACILITIES.

>> WE DID NOT LOOK AT ANY OTHER FACILITIES AS FAR AS PUTTING IN ANYTHING NEW.

WE DID ADDRESS SOME AREAS FOR BASKETBALL, FOR THE GYMS, WHERE THERE WAS SOME RESURFACING OF THE FLOORING.

I WAS TRYING TO THINK. SOME OF THE DOORS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AND FIXED BECAUSE THERE WAS LEAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE DIDN'T REPLACE.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING NEW.

>> AND SOME NEW BLEACHERS, LIKE WHERE WE HAD SOME STILL OLD WOODEN BLEACHERS FOR THEM TO REPLACE TO THE STANDARD OF ALL THE OTHER CAMPUSES.

BUT THAT WAS ALL. WE DIDN'T LOOK AT ANY OTHER ADDING OF NEW FACILITIES IN THAT REGARD.

>> THANK YOU. JUST BRINGING UP TO CODE REALLY. THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT.

WE HEARD THE CONCERN FROM TRUSTEE WESTON IN JUNE, AND THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE, FRANKLY, WHENEVER WE WERE UP THERE AND YOU SAID THEY'RE PROPOSING WHAT? IN THAT FINAL REPORT, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY, THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED IN THE LONG RUN FACILITY MASTER PLAN, EVEN THOUGH THAT WASN'T THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE.

BUT YOU ALL AS TRUSTEES CAN DIG INTO THAT INFORMATION.

BUT THE NEW STADIUM SIMILAR TO KELLY REEVES, IF THAT WERE THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GO, THAT ESTIMATED PRICE WAS 60 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD BE ON EXISTING DISTRICT LAND.

IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL LAND, THAT'S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT FACILITY.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU GUYS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE AWARE THAT THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED AS WELL.

>> FOR THAT MATTER, A NEW PACK WAS $65 MILLION.

TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT, WHEN WE BUILT CEDAR RIDGE AND STONY POINT, IT WAS UNDER 20, AND THE PRICE HAS GONE UP TO $65 MILLION.

THAT'S NOT FOR EQUIVALENT TO WHAT IS OVER THE LARGE PACK ON THE MCNEIL CAMPUS.

NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES EQUIVALENT TO CEDAR RIDGE AND STONY POINT,

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SO ONLY A 700 SEAT IS $65 MILLION.

>> I WANT TO PUNT FROM DRAGON STADIUM FOR A MINUTE AND LOOK AT AN EQUITY ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

THAT WAS THE DEER PARK DANCE ROOM, WHICH ON THE NOTE SECTION, IT'S 6,457 SQUARE FEET.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO DANCE ROOM RENOVATIONS AT RIDGEVIEW FOR 835 SQUARE FEET AND HOPEWELL FOR 824 SQUARE FEET.

HOPEWELL SAYS, REPURPOSE OR STEAL A THEATER CLASSROOM FOR THEIR DANCE ROOM.

I WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE GENESIS OF A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT DANCE ROOM AT DEER PARK CAME FROM AND HOW THAT'S EQUITABLE COMPARED TO OTHER DANCE FACILITIES AT OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT.

>> I WENT BACK TO SCOTT AND ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION WHEN YOU POSED THAT AND I THINK THAT IT WAS RESPONDED TO.

>> BY THE WAY, LINDSEY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ON THE PHONE SO I BRIEFED HER THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT I HAD AS WELL.

>> I THOUGHT THAT. I WENT AND ASKED THAT QUESTION.

FIRST, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE EDSPECS SPECS, WHAT IT WAS.

I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION IN THE LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAD SUBMITTED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE EDSPECS, AND IT WASN'T QUITE AT THAT 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND SO I WENT TO SCOTT AND I SAID, WHERE DO WE GET THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET? I CAN'T REMEMBER.

THE EDSPECS ARE JUST AROUND 4,200, I BELIEVE, IN THE NEW NEWLY APPROVED EDSPECS SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A DANCE CLASSROOM THE THOUGHT WAS IT SHOULD BE TO WHAT OUR CURRENT EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE.

THEN THE DIFFERENCE IN SQUARE FEET UP TO THE 6,000 IS A GROSSING FACTOR.

YOU HAVE THE HALLWAYS, THE ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT SOME DANCE STORAGE SPACES, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT GET APPLIED TO THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT'S A 1.5 GROSSING FACTOR THAT GETS YOU UP TO THAT 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> SAME QUESTION, A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY AT ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUS WHEN YOU'VE GOT HOPEWELL THAT'S HOPING TO TAKE OVER A THEATER CLASSROOM AT 824 SQUARE FEET.

DEER PARK WOULD BE SUCH AN ANOMALY.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T NEED IT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS DON'T NEED 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

BUT WHY ONE PARTICULAR CAMPUS, WHY THIS LARGE WHEN THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD ANY OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY, ANY.

>> TWO MINUTES.

>> DEER PARK WAS BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TEACHERS THERE AND THE PRINCIPALS WHEN WE MADE A VISIT TO THEM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY NEEDED.

THIS WAS A MORE A BIGGER NEED FOR THEM THAN AT THE OTHER PLACES.

THE OTHER SCHOOLS SAID, YES, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE GET THIS.

THEIR IDEA WAS, WE DON'T NEED A BRAND NEW FACILITY.

WE DON'T NEED THIS, WE JUST NEED THE ADDITIONAL SPACE.

WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEEDED.

BUT DEER PARK SPECIFICALLY DID ASK, WE NEED BETTER FACILITIES.

>> I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL GO BACK THROUGH AND CYCLE THROUGH SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES.

BUT THANK YOU. I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHY YOU PUT IT ON THERE.

I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF AN EQUITY OF IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR ONE, LET'S DO IT FOR ALL.

TRUSTEE MARKUM, YOUR NEXT UP FOR REPEAT QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I DO THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GOING BACK AND ADDING MORE TIMES? ANY PROBLEMS. GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE MARKUM.

>> I'M GOING BACK TO THE DRAGON STADIUM REBRANDING REFURBISHMENT.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD A LOT NOW ABOUT THE DOUBLE SCHEDULING DOING THE DOUBLE HEADERS.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW A REBRANDING WOULD ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

I THINK WHAT I HEARD IS IT'S MORE OF A PRIMER LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF STARTING TO BUILD TOWARD THAT GROWTH AND EVENTUALLY POTENTIALLY ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL AND ANOTHER STADIUM.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW REBRANDING.

WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE CONVERSION OF THAT STADIUM THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE SCHEDULING ISSUES?

>> THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING AS FAR AS SCHEDULING.

THE WORD REBRANDING IS IN LOOKING AT VIEWS FROM THE COMMITTEE, THERE WAS A SURVEY SENT OUT IN THE LONG RANGE PLANS ABOUT, DO WE LOOK AT ARE WE LOOKING TO GET A NEW HIGH SCHOOL? ARE WE LOOKING TO GET OTHER FACILITIES FOR FOOTBALL? WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LOOKED AT IS, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S NOT A DRIVE TO PUT ONE, SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A NEW FACILITY.

WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT THERE'S WHERE PEARSON RANCH ROAD IS.

THERE WAS AN IDEA OF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HIGH SCHOOL THERE, BUT THERE WASN'T, SO DO WE WANT TO BUILD A STADIUM THERE,

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BUT THEN IT'S ALL BY ITSELF AND IT'S ALSO ON THE WEST SIDE, AND START ON THE EAST SIDE.

THEN WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT, WHAT CAN WE DO BASED ON ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAD? WE NEED TO UPGRADE KELLY REEVES, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT GETS REBRANDED OR NOT.

BUT THEN [OVERLAPPING] DRAGON STADIUM TO UPGRADE IT.

BUT THEN LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY GOING TO LOOK AT IT AS NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE ROUND ROCK COMMUNITY, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, ROUND ROCK IS GETTING A NEW STADIUM BECAUSE IT'S THEIR STADIUM, WE'RE NOT.

THEN WE'VE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT, WELL, WE DON'T PLAY THERE.

I COME FROM MCNEIL. WE DON'T PLAY ANY GAMES AT MCNEIL.

WE EITHER PLAY AT KELLY REEVES, DRAGON STADIUM, OR WE'RE AWAY AT SOMEBODY ELSE'S.

WHY WE HAVE A STADIUM, WE DON'T PLAY THERE.

WE DON'T PLAY GAMES, OUR JV TEAMS AND FRESHMEN DO.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, AGAIN, WE COME HERE, WE'RE PLAYING AT ROUND ROCK STADIUM? WE'RE NOT PLAYING AT A STADIUM THAT WE CAN CALL OUR HOME.

THAT'S WHERE THE REBRANDING CAME.

AGAIN, IT WASN'T L. WE ALL SAID THIS IS WHAT NEEDED.

THE CONSENSUS FROM EVERYBODY WAS BASED ON WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES WE DO, WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER LEARNING COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S WESTWOOD OR STONY POINT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AND WHY IS IT THAT WE NEED TO CALL IT ROUND ROCK? NOW, AGAIN, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE FIELD WAS CALLED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT IS, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS IS, DO WE NAME IT SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE THREE NAMES AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THE REBRANDING CAME FROM.

EVERYTHING ELSE WAS, WE NEED TO UPGRADE THE STADIUM.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK I WAS JUST GETTING AND I THINK THAT THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DOUBLE SCHEDULING MAYBE WENT TOWARD BUILDING A NEW STADIUM, AND I THINK SOME OF THAT GOT A LITTLE CONVOLUTED.

THAT WOULD BE MORE ABOUT BUILDING A NEW STADIUM, BUT THE CONVERSION WOULD BE MORE ABOUT COMMUNITY COMMITMENT TO INCLUDING OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THEN JUST BRINGING IT UP TO DATE.

>> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.

WALK ME THROUGH.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO GET A FIRM AND ROBUST UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE GENESIS OF THIS DRAGON STADIUM CONVERSATION ABOUT $30 MILLION, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME BOUNCING AROUND HERE.

IS THIS A NOD TO A FUTURE HIGH SCHOOL SIX AND TRYING TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT? BECAUSE IN MY MIND, IF THAT IS, WHY WOULD WE NOT JUST WAIT UNTIL IF THE DAY EVER COMES THAT WE BUILD HIGH SCHOOL SIX, THEN YOU BUILD THAT HUGE STADIUM AT THAT CAMPUS AT THAT TIME.

IF YOU SPEND $30 MILLION ON DRAGON STADIUM NOW, THEN I THINK YOU NEGATE THE JUSTIFICATION OF DOING IT AT THE NEW CAMPUS PARKING GARAGE, I WOULD ASSUME FOR DRAGON STADIUM WOULD COST LESS THAN THIS $30 MILLION.

BUT IF THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE IS A SCOREBOARD AND MORE PARKING, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND 30 MILLION.

BUT WHAT IS THE GENESIS? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? ALL THE TIME THAT I'VE SPENT AT DRAGON STADIUM, I DON'T REMEMBER PEOPLE EVER SAYING, WELL, THIS IS REALLY TERRIBLE.

WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS.

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE GENESIS.

>> GO AHEAD.

WELL, I TALKED TO THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR BECAUSE THAT WAS MY SAME QUESTION.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? HE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL POINTS THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH CAPACITY ON HOME GAMES FOR THE STUDENTS OF ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT WAS HIS ASSERTION.

I'M NOT HERE FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL HOME GAME, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE, SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

HE SAID THAT WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY WITHIN THE PRESS BOX FOR THE OPPOSING TEAMS PRESS, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. THEY FELT LIKE THAT THE PRESS BOX WAS JUST WOEFULLY INADEQUATE IN TERMS OF SIZE AND CAPACITY TO FOR A SIX A TEAM.

I THINK A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD FROM HIM IS, WE ARE A PRESTIGIOUS SIX A PROGRAM, AND OUR FIELD IS NOT UP TO THAT STANDARD.

>> GO AHEAD. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE WHAT FERNANDEZ SAID A MINUTE AGO THAT A LOT OF THAT $30 MILLION HAS TO BE DONE REGARDLESS OF THE REBRANDING OR NOT.

THE REBRANDING, IN A WAY, WAS THE SOFTEN TO THE REST OF THE DISTRICT TO MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE TO MAKE THESE UPDATES HAPPEN.

>> TO MAKE IT MORE LIKELY TO PASS?

>> RIGHT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> CAN I ADD ONE THING TO THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS ACTUALLY ON MY COMMITTEE IN 2018 WAS TO DO SOMETHING AT DRAGON STADIUM, AND WE LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY THE SCOREBOARD.

WE HEARD THAT THE SCOREBOARD IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

TO UPGRADE THE SCOREBOARD TO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT KELLY REEVES, YOU NEEDED A WHOLE ROOM TO BE ABLE TO RUN THAT SCOREBOARD, AND THAT HAS TO BE UP IN THE PRESS BOX.

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TO UPGRADE THE SCOREBOARD, YOU THEN HAD TO UPGRADE THE PRESS BOX TO BE ABLE TO GET A NEW SCOREBOARD.

IT DID NOT MAKE THE BOND IN 2018 BECAUSE I THINK THEN IT WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT MILLION JUST TO DO THE SCOREBOARD BECAUSE YOU HAD TO UPGRADE AND ADD AN ELEVATOR.

I MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN MORE THAN THAT. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION WAS, NO, JUST UPDATING DRAGON STADIUM DOES NOT DEAL WITH OUR SCHEDULING ISSUES, BUT IT MAKES THE FACILITIES A LITTLE MORE COMPARABLE SO THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING TO PLAY AT DRAGON STADIUM, YOU'RE NOT FEELING LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING AT A SECOND RATE FACILITY COMPARED TO KELLY REEVES.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO US IN 2018.

I THINK THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE REASONING BEHIND NOW WAS, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE SCHEDULING ISSUES.

IT'S TERRIBLE BECAUSE EVERY HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM HAS AT LEAST ONE THURSDAY NIGHT GAME, WHICH YOU UNDERSTAND THAT INCLUDES THE BAND AND THE DRILL TEAM AND THE CHEERLEADERS.

THEY'RE NOT GETTING HOME AND BACK TO THEIR HOUSES TILL 11, 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, AND THEY HAVE TO BE AT SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.

NOBODY WANTS A THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME, BUT IT'S WHAT WE'RE AT.

BUT THIS $30 MILLION WILL NOT SOLVE ANY OF THAT.

JUST THAT'S A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND FROM WHAT WE GOT IN 2018.

THIS ISN'T A NEW PROJECT.

IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE NOW BECAUSE IT'S SIX YEARS LATER, BUT THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE PROJECT BACK THEN.

>> COREY, HAVE YOU BEEN UP IN THAT PRESS BOX?

>> I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY. BUT I HAVE. YOU HAVE?

>> I HAVE AND OUR DANCE DIRECTOR, PUT IT BLUNTLY HATES IT, BECAUSE GETTING UP THERE BETWEEN THE SECOND QUARTER TO GET HALF TIME TO GET THEM MORGANIZE, THEY HAVE TO BE UP THERE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE JUST TO GET ALL THE WAY UP, THEY HAVE TO GO UP THERE.

THEN ON THE PRESS BOX SIDE WHERE THEY SIT, THE OPPOSING TEAMS COACHES HAVE TO MOVE SO THAT OUR DIRECTOR CAN USE THE SPEAKER SYSTEM AND ANNOUNCE OUR TEAM.

IT HAS BECOME A PROBLEM FOR US.

I KNOW OTHER SCHOOLS THAT WILL DO THAT HAVE EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

IT IS A TREK TO GET OUT THERE.

I WILL SAY, I HAD TO GO UP THERE ONCE.

I HAVE DIFFICULTIES WITH THE LAKE WHEN I WAS USING IT.

IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET UP TO THAT PRESS BOX.

I PREDICT A RESISTANCE TO A REBRAND.

THAT'S JUST MY PREDICTION.

MY LAST QUESTION ON DRAGON STADIUM, FORMER TRUSTEE VSA.

WHEN I LOOK AT SLIDE 27, AND I SEE THESE NUMBERS, I SEE 64.7 FOR FINE ARTS, AND I SEE 72.9 FOR ATHLETICS AND 30 MILLION FOR DRAGON STADIUM.

YOU DO HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE BEING ON THIS BOARD COMMITTEE AND BEING A FORMER TRUSTEE.

ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THIS?

>> I SENT AN EMAIL.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS.

WE WENT IN, WE WERE JUST TOLD, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS? FOR EXAMPLE, $22 MILLION OF THE FINE ARTS COST IS A NEW DANCE EDITION AT STONY POINT.

I WAS FULLY FOCUSED ON WESTWOOD, AND MCNEIL, AND ROUND ROCK, ACTUALLY.

I WASN'T OVER THERE, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY HAVE A NEED FOR DANCE FACILITIES.

BUT IT'S $22 MILLION.

THE QUESTION THEN GOES TO YOU AS A BOARD.

THERE IS A NEED FOR DANCE FACILITIES.

I DON'T QUESTION THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS WORKING ON STONY POINT FINDING.

BUT IS IT A $22 MILLION NEED? CAN WE ADDRESS IT ANOTHER WAY? I GAVE IT IN MY EMAIL THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT WESTWOOD, BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID THIS IS GOING TO COST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES.

THEY WANTED TO CUT IT.

I'M LIKE, YOU CANNOT CUT THIS PROJECT.

THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN CUT THIS PROJECT.

WE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER WAY.

WHAT I SAID IS, WHERE CAN YOU PUT IT ON THIS FACILITY? IT HAS TO HAPPEN. IT MUST HAPPEN.

CAN WE PUT A PORTABLE? CAN WE DO SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S MORE REASONABLY PRICED? BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE DONE.

IT MUST BE DONE.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

IT'S EXISTED FOREVER.

THERE WAS A PROMISE BASICALLY MADE TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT IT WOULD BE RESOLVED, AND IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.

BUT LET'S FIND A WAY TO DO THAT THAT DOESN'T COST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD.

IF I WERE UP THERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, I WOULD SAY, HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THESE REAL NEEDS IN A COST EFFICIENT MANNER THAT IS PALATABLE TO THE ROUND ROCK IST TAXPAYER? THEY ARE REAL NEEDS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT.

IT'S JUST HOW DO WE GO BACK, HOW DO YOU ALL AS ELECTED TRUSTEES GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SAY, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS THIS NEED THAT DOESN'T HAVE THIS HUGE PRICE TAG ON IT.

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THAT IS A CHALLENGE GIVEN OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THE PRICES OF CONSTRUCTION ARE ASTRONOMICAL, AND THAT JUST IS THE REALITY WE'RE LIVING IN.

IT'S A REALLY BIG LIFT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO DO IT.

YOU HAVE LESS THAN A MONTH TO GET THIS THING WRAPPED UP AND VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

I DO NOT ENVY THE AMOUNT OF WORK THE STAFF AND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO GET IT TO A PLACE THAT BOTH MEETS THE NEEDS AND IS A COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.

>> I ADD SOMETHING. I THINK FROM THE CO-CHAIRS PERSPECTIVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FEASIBILITY IS FOR EACH CAMPUS.

ONE CAMPUS VISIBILITY MAY NOT BE THE SAME CASE AS ANOTHER CAMPUS VISIBILITY.

I'M TALKING WITH HPM, YES, WE ARE SIX YEARS REMOVED FROM THE LAST BOARD AND COST HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

WE HAD THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT THE COST.

I HAVE MANY CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT AT THIS CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT NOW, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE TIMES MORE.

WE HAD TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

>> I'LL JUST ADD SOME CONTEXT.

I KNOW IT WAS DISAPPOINTING WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE WESTWOOD BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.

THE FEASIBILITY AROUND PUTTING IN A BRICK AND MORTAR LOCKER ROOM THERE.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY THOUGHT THAT, IF WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE, THAT WE WOULDN'T.

IT WAS THAT IT WASN'T FEASIBLE AND IT WASN'T CERTAIN WHEN HPM AND DISTRICT CONSTRUCTION WERE LOOKING AT THAT SITE THAT WITH THE CURRENT CODE, EVEN IF YOU DID TRY TO RECONFIGURE THE WAY THE FIELDS WERE POSITIONED, COULD YOU EVEN STILL FIT BOTH FIELDS IN THAT SPACE PLUS GET A BRICK AND MORTAR.

I HEAR YOU COREY, AND WE TRIED TO FIND A SOLUTION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE WHATEVER IT WAS, A $20 MILLION LOCKER ROOM.

THAT $20 MILLION WAS BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO COMPLETELY REMASTER PLAN THE ENTIRE LOCATION TO MAKE THAT WORK.

IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS AD TO HAVE A LOCKER ROOM OR LIKE A BRICK AND MORTAR, THERE WAS JUST THE SPACE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO BUILD THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE SAID, IT NEEDS TO JUST BE A MODULAR LOCKER ROOM INSTEAD, AND WE WOULD HAVE PRESENTED THAT AS AN OPTION.

THERE WASN'T AN OPTION FOR THAT BRICK AND MORTAR WITHOUT HAVING TO RECONFIGURE, AND THEN IT WASN'T EVEN GUARANTEED THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO RECONFIGURE THAT SITE AND HAVE BOTH THE SOFTBALL AND A BASEBALL FIELD AT THAT SITE.

>> STONY POINT DANCE CLASSROOM.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND THAT IS DETAILED IN THE DETAIL REPORT.

WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS TOTAL IS 22.3 MILLION.

IT'S A FULL DANCE SUITE.

WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS CO-CHAIRS WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING IT, WE CHANGED THE ESTIMATED COST TO THE FULL DANCE SUITE INSTEAD OF JUST THE DANCE CLASSROOM EDITION.

SO A DANCE CLASSROOM EDITION WOULD BE JUST OVER NINE MILLION ABOUT 9.1 MILLION.

THEN THE FULL DANCE SUITE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE TWO CLASSROOMS, THE LOCKER ROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IS EQUITABLE WITH WHAT ARE OTHER CAMPUSES ACROSS THE DISTRICT HAVE? STONY POINT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A DANCE SPACE.

THEY USE THE EXISTING GYM RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THEIR DANCE CLASSES OR PORTABLES.

>> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A LOT THAT WOULD BE GOING TO STONY POINT, BUT IT'S ALSO A CAMPUS THAT HASN'T HAD A LOT OF ATTENTION GIVEN TO IT.

IN THE LAST BOND CYCLE, THERE WAS A LOT OF ATTENTION GIVEN TO MC NEIL AND TO WESTWOOD, WHILE IT'S AND ROUND ROCK.

I THINK THAT THERE IS THE EQUITY THAT IN THIS CYCLE, ONE CAMPUS MAY NOT GET AS MUCH.

BUT THERE STILL IS A NEED TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE WHAT IS EXPECTED AT A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL LIKE STONY POINT, THAT IS PROJECTED TO GROW.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEEDER PATTERN GROWTH, THAT CAMPUS IS IN OUR LARGEST GROWTH AREA IN THE DISTRICT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE STUDENTS ATTENDING THERE, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES THAT OUR OTHER CAMPUSES HAVE.

>> MAY I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR.

>> AT DEER PARK WHERE THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN EXTENSION OF CLASSROOMS AND A DANCE STUDIO.

THERE WAS A SAVINGS TO DO THOSE TOGETHER,

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BUT I DON'T SEE THAT DETAILED FOR STONY POINT.

>> WE ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION.

WE WENT BACK TO MELANIE AND TO SCOTT AND SAID, WE GOT THIS EFFICIENCY AT DEER PARK, CAN WE GET THE SAME EFFICIENCY AT STONY POINT.

THE WAY THE SITE IS SET UP, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PARTS OF THE BUILDING.

THERE ARE TWO STANDALONE PROJECTS, AND SO THERE ISN'T EFFICIENCIES GAINED BY DOING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT WE DID ASK THAT QUESTION.

WE WERE LOOKING AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THESE NUMBERS DOWN.

>> WAS THAT WHY YOUR LIGHT IS ON? IS THAT QUESTION? I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

FIRST ONE IS KELLY REEVES.

BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, IT LOOKS LIKE ANYTHING WE DO IT, KELLY REEVES IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO ON A SEPARATE PROPOSITION, EVEN THE REPLACING CEILING TILES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT KELLY REEVES PROJECT 18 SAID REPLACE THE TURF.

BUT IT ALSO SAID END OF LIFE WAS NOT UNTIL 2029, WHICH REALLY SHOULD BE PAST WHAT THIS BOND CYCLE SHOULD COVER.

BECAUSE I KNOW IF THIS CAME OUT IN 2018 FROM MY COMMITTEE THAT WE REPLACED THE TURF BACK IN 2018.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE PUTTING TURF ON HERE THAT'S NOT EVEN SET TO EXPIRE FOR AT LEAST FIVE MORE YEARS? TYPICAL BOND CYCLES, WE TRY TO COMPLETE THE WORK IN THE THREE YEAR BOND CYCLE.

>> WE WERE TOLD IT WAS A FIVE YEAR.

>> A FIVE YEAR? THIS WOULD BE AT THE VERY END OF IT? THAT WE WOULD GET THAT PROJECT DONE? CORRECT. THEN WHAT ARE OUR PLANS FOR IF IT WOULD HAVE TO GO ON A SEPARATE PROP, AND WHAT WERE OUR PLANS FOR REPLACING A TURF THERE IF THAT SEPARATE PROP FAILED?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WE REALIZED THAT BEFORE THIS MORNING THAT ANY OF THE THINGS TOUCHING KELLY RAYS THAT WERE CONSIDERED MORE CAPITAL RENEWAL IN NATURE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN A SEPARATE PROP.

BUT HE DID SAY ANYTHING ATHLETICS CAN BE BUNDLED INTO ONE ATHLETICS PROP? IT'S NOT A SEPARATE PROP FOR KELLY RAYS VERSUS DRAGON VERSUS?

>> WE COULD DO A PROP I, THAT'LL BE WHAT THE BOARD DECIDES.

>> I THINK THAT GOES INTO THE PACKAGING ALL ARE GOING TO YOU FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THAT.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR CYCLE.

NEXT ONE IS, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT AN EQUITY ISSUE IS WE HAVE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER 34 IS A 2.4 MILLION DOLLAR RENOVATION OF THEIR LOCKER ROOMS. DID YOU CONSIDER THE LOCKER ROOM THAT IS A PORTABLE AT CEDAR RIDGE? IT'S A MODULAR BUILDING SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT EQUITY AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 2.4 MILLION ON ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL'S LOCKER ROOM, AND WE'VE GOT CEDAR RIDGE SITTING OVER HERE IN A PORTABLE BUILDING.

DID YOU ALL CONSIDER THOSE TWO PROJECTS?

>> YES, WE DID. THE DISCUSSION IS WHAT THEY HAVE AT CEDAR RIDGE IS WORKING.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE SOMETHING TO BE DONE.

IF WE WERE LOOKING AT EQUITY, WE WOULD THEN LOOKED AT ALL THE FACILITIES AND SAY, WELL, THIS ONE HAS AN INDOOR BUILDING, THESE FACILITIES, WE NEED TO DO THAT TO EVERYONE. WHAT WE LOOKED AT.

THEY NEED ONE FIXED IN ONE PLACE.

THE OTHER ONE IS OKAY THE WAY IT IS.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ADDED TO OR CHANGED TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAD GOING.

>> MAYBE THIS IS FOR COACH CHEATHAM.

IS CEDAR RIDGE THE ONLY FACILITY THAT HAS A PORTABLE LOCKER ROOM? I THOUGHT THEY WERE.

FOR A 200 MEMBER FOOTBALL TEAM THAT USES.

THEY'RE THE ONLY CAMPUS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THEN MY LAST QUESTION, NO, I HAVE TWO MORE.

THIS ONE IS ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STADIUMS. AGAIN, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM YOU GUYS.

>> THE MIDDLE SCHOOL REFRESHERS ARE HAPPENING AT CANYON VISTA, CEDAR VALLEY, CHISHOLM TRAIL, DEER PARK.

YOU NOTICE IT'S ALL ON THE WEST SIDE.

I'M LOOKING AT IS A LONG WAY TO GO FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE HOPEWELL ATTENDANCE AREA TO GET ALL THE WAY OVER TO CANYON VISTA FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT WERE YOU CONSIDERING IN TERMS OF EQUITY FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL STADIUMS? I KNOW WE HAVE A BRAND NEW ONE AT C. D. FULKES, BUT IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

I'M NOT SAYING CHANGE IT.

IF YOU COULD JUST TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOUR PROCESS WAS THOUGH TO GET TO THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS.

>> THE FOCUS ON THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS WAS THERE WAS A NEED TO FIX ONE ITEM, AND WHETHER IT WAS ACCESS TO A PRESS BOX OR THE SEATING.

WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S EASIER TO FIX AN ENTIRE SITE THAN IT IS TO JUST ADDRESS ONE OF THE ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS LOOKED AT.

FOR THE OTHER SCHOOLS, THERE WASN'T A NEED TO REPLACE EVERYTHING.

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THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC, LET'S REPLACE BLEACHERS, LET'S REPLACE THE PRESS BOX.

AND THERE WASN'T A NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

AGAIN, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT TO SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS AT THIS SCHOOL, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE OTHER SCHOOL.

WE WERE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

>> IT'S MY UNDERSTAND, MIDDLE SCHOOL COMPETITION ON THE EAST SIDE HAPPENS AT STONY POINT HIGH SCHOOL AND AT C. D. FULKES, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO FACILITIES ON THE EAST SIDE?

>>YES.

>> WAS THERE A CONSIDERATION NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS BRAND NEW FACILITY AT C. D. FULKES, THAT PERHAPS ONE OF THESE FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS DIDN'T NEED AN UPGRADE NOW.

JUST DEMO BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOL COMPETITION FIELDS ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BRAND NEW C. D. FULKES.

I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO. I'M JUST WONDERING THE CONSIDERATIONS.

>> ONE THING THAT IS NOT LISTED UP THERE IS THAT HERNANDEZ IS ON BUT IT'S UNDERNEATH STONY POINT, SO IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.

>> STONY POINT AND CITY FOLKS STONY POINT, SLASH HERNANDEZ.

>> EXACTLY.

>> CITY FOLKS ARE THE ONLY TWO EAST SIDE MIDDLE SCHOOL COMPETITION FACILITIES.

>> RIGHT. THERE IS WORK ON MR. BELL HERNANDEZ IS LISTED UNDER STONY POINT.

THE OTHER CAMPUS HE'S MISSING IS HERNANDEZ.

>> THERE IS A PROJECT FOR STONY POINT I MISSED THAT ONE [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU DIDN'T MISSED IT, IT'S LISTED UNDER STONY POINT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. THEN MY LAST QUESTION, AND MAYBE IT JUST NEEDS CLARIFICATION.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NOTE MEANT ON GRISHAM NUMBER 14, 2.75 MILLION FOR RENOVATION, AND IT SAID, INCLUDES BRAND NEW WEIGHT ROOM.

I CAN READ IT TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.

IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. HOLD ON.

IT'S GRISHAM NUMBER 16.

THAT'S FERNANDEZ.

HERE IT IS. NUMBER 14.

IT SAYS, EXISTING AREA INCLUDED WEIGHT ROOM IS 5,500 SQUARE FEET.

THAT WEIGHT ROOM JUST OPENED THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

WHY ARE WE NEEDING TO RENOVATE THAT?

>> THAT WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION, TRUSTEE.

I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT TRUSTEE, WE ARE ASKED THAT QUESTION AND I THINK THOSE QUESTION RESPONSES JUST GOT SENT TO YOU GUYS EARLY THIS MORNING.

THAT WAS A QUESTION, THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS REALLY JUST MEANT TO NOTE THAT THE RENOVATION IS OF THE OLD LOCKER ROOM AND THE OLD WEIGHT ROOM SPACE IS 5,500 SQUARE FEET, WHERE THAT OLD LOCKER ROOM USED TO BE.

IT WASN'T MEANT TO SAY THAT IT'S TOUCHING THE NEW LOCKER ROOM, IT'S SAYING WHERE THE OLD ONE USED TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LOCKER ROOMS IS 5,500 SQUARE FEET, AND THIS IS WHAT THAT RENOVATION.

>> WHAT ARE WE RENOVATING THAT AREA TO? NOW WE HAVE THE EXTERNAL WEIGHT ROOM AT GRISHAM AND WE HAVE THIS 5,500 [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S RECONFIGURING THE WHOLE OF IT.

>> INTO WHAT?

>> THE LOCKER ROOMS, EXPANDING THE SIZE OF THOSE LOCKER ROOMS, MAKING THEM MORE UP TO PAR WITH WHAT THEY SHOULD BE BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL.

>> YOU GET A DANCE FACILITY OUT OF THAT? AT LEAST 825 SQUARE FOOT.

>> I DON'T KNOW [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHAT THE SQUARE FOOT RIDGEVIEW HAS? I'M JUST TRYING, HOW CAN WE TAKE CARE OF A CAMPUS THAT'S LANDLOCKED OR FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, LANDLOCKED.

IF WE CAN GET 825 SQUARE FEET THAT RIDGEVIEW HAS, CAN WE REPURPOSE THAT AREA TO GIVE GRISHAM A DANCE SPACE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL EVEN CONSIDERED THAT?

>> THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED.

>> THAT'LL BE FOR SCOTT SAID.

>> THEY CAN LOOK INTO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HE CAN LOOK AT WHAT IT WAS, WHAT THE OLD LOCKER ROOM WAS, AND EVERYTHING.

>> FUTURE PROBLEM. LAST QUESTION.

C. D. FULKES AUDITORIUM, ARE YOU LOOKING TO REMOVE THE STAGE IN THE REFRESH OR ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE THE STAGE IN THERE?

>> LEAVING THE STAGE.

>> LEAVE THE STAGE. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS AGAIN, A HUGE UNDERTAKING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TRUSTEES, WE'RE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 85 FOR GROWTH, AND I'LL LET OUR CO CHAIR START THE PRESENTATION FOR GROWTH.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.

OUR GROWTH SUBCOMMITTEE WAS LED BY DOCTOR GARCIA.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S NOT ABLE TO MEET WITH US TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES HERE THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS.

THE GROWTH SUBCOMMITTEE SPLIT INTO DIFFERENT GROUPS,

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ONE BEING SECONDARY GROUPS IN ELEMENTARY, SECONDARY MEANING MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL, AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY WENT ABOUT PRIORITIZING SOME OF THE LIST.

HERE YOU SEE THE GROWTH P1 ITEMS BETWEEN WHEN THEY STARTED UP TO JULY, WHICH IS A LIST.

>> FINAL REPORT.

>> OUR FINAL REPORT.

IT WENT 56-100 MILLION FOR OBVIOUSLY THE CT CENTER, WHICH WILL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND, WHICH IS 123 MILLION.

WITHIN THIS P1ITEMS, SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THERE WAS A AW GRIMES.

BUILDOUT SPACE, WHICH COULD BE USED FOR, ADMIN SPACE, SRO SPACE GROUNDS, STUDENT SPACE AS WELL, AND MAYBE POSSIBLY.

SOME ROBOTICS AND FINE ART SPACE WITHIN THAT FACILITY.

THAT'S AT THE 16 OR TWO AW GRIMES LOCATION.

DEER PARK, WE WANTED THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED TO REMODEL A SPACE TO TURN IT INTO A CTE SPACE AND ALSO ADD A 12 CLASSROOM ADDITION FOR STONY POINT, IN CEDAR RIDGE, THE ADDITION OF CLASSROOM SPACE TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE PORTABLES ALONG WITH THE TC MODULAR BUILDING AT STONY POINT.

THEN FINALLY, WESTWOOD WILL GET A FLEX SPACE CONVERSION FOR ROBOTICS.

FROM A ELEMENTARY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BERKMAN TO REFRESH SOME OF THE PORTABLES TO MAKE THEM WET, GREAT OAKS AND PURPLES SAGE CLASSROOM EXPANSIONS TO REMOVE SOME OF THE PORTABLES.

THEN I WILL DOCTOR DENNIS DISCUSS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION COSTS APPLIED HERE.

ONE OF THE ITEMS IN P1 WAS THE SUBCOMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A CENTRALIZED CTE CENTER.

THIS WILL BE 165 K SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.

THIS ORIGINATED FROM THE LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN WITH THE GOAL TO HAVE A SPACE ACROSS THE DISTRICT, SPECIALIZES IN SOME PROGRAMMING REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEIR HOME CAMPUS IS.

PER DISTRICT, THERE'S A SPECIAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM STATE FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR CTE, AND THEY WILL ASSIST ALSO WITH STAFFING CHALLENGES.

IF YOU CENTRALIZE IT, YOU WILL HAVE LESS OF A STAFFING CHALLENGE AT THAT ONE FACILITY.

P2 AND P3 ITEMS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE LOOKED AT WAS THE SHOP CONVERSION TO HERNANDEZ MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ALSO THE FINE ARTS CLASSROOM EXPANSION AT CEDAR VALLEY.

>> FROM AN ELEMENTRIC PERSPECTIVE, THE P2/P3 ITEMS FOREST NORTH AND OLD TOWN CONVERTING THE WALKWAYS.

WE'RE NOT SEEN AS A P1 ITEM RIGHT NOW SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE.

POND SPRINGS ELEMENTARY, REMOVE SOME OF THE PORTABLES AND AS WELL AS SPICEWOOD ELEMENTARY COVERED WALKWAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE,

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REALLY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WAS MAKING IT SO THAT IT WAS SOMEWHAT LOOKING AT THE GROWTH PATTERN FOR EACH LEARNING COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF NEW BUILDINGS HERE BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT A NEED AT THIS MOMENT.

BUT YOU DO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SOME OF THE EXISTING CAMPUSES.

THEY TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

ANOTHER TOPIC THAT CAME AROUND WAS THAT THEY FOCUSED A LOT OF REPROGRAMMING TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT IS EASY, IT IS MORE OF A ADMIN DECISION TO RE-ALLOCATE SOME OF THE SPACE AT THE EXISTING CAMPUSES SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE ROOM FOR WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?

>> WHAT DO YOU TALK ABOUT PROGRAMMATIC? IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE LIST OF PROJECTS, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THE P1 ONES, BUT THE NON-BOND LIST THAT WAS LINKED TO IN THE REPORT OR DUPLICATE ITEMS. IN THAT NON-BOND LIST, THIS IS AN APPENDIX A WITHIN THAT REPORT.

YOU CAN LINK TO IT.

THE GROWTH COMMITTEE AFTER TOURING AND LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT SITES, THEY SAID, WELL, REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE AT THIS CAMPUS, BUT WE HAVE ALL THESE PROGRAMS AT THIS CAMPUS.

THEY STARTED MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DON'T REALLY TOUCH A BOND, BUT ARE REALLY MORE PROGRAMMATIC TYPE RECOMMENDATIONS.

TO HONOR WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, WE OBVIOUSLY WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY AREN'T BOND PROJECTS.

IT WASN'T THAT THERE WAS NOT WORK DONE BY THEM, BUT JUST A LOT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE.

WELL, WE HAVE THESE FACILITIES.

IT FEELS LIKE WE CAN MAYBE BETTER UTILIZE SOME OF THEM.

>> ANOTHER POINT THAT THE GROWTH SUBCOMMITTEE REALLY HAD TOUCHED ON, AND THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE BACK AND UNDER CONSIDERATION WAS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE PROJECTS OR REQUESTS COULD BE ADDRESSED BY REZONING.

ALTHOUGH THAT WAS NOT PART OF OUR CHARTER, THEY DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THAT WAS A HOT TOPIC UNDER THEIR CONVERSATION.

>> TO THAT POINT ABOUT BOUNDARIES.

LOOKING AT THE STONY POINT FEEDER PATTERN.

COMING OUT OF THE LONG-RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL PROPOSAL FOR A NEW ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL WITHIN THAT FEEDER PATTERN BASED ON THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

ULTIMATELY, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT RECOMMEND A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF EITHER ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

HOW THEY LANDED THERE WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE OVERALL CAPACITY WITHIN THE FEEDER PATTERN AMONG THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND AMONG THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

COULD SOME OF THOSE THINGS BE ADDRESSED? DO WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL IF THE HARD CONVERSATION CAN BE HAD ABOUT BOUNDARIES? I KNOW MR. COVINGTON ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION, HOW DID THEY LAND THAT WE DON'T NEED A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? WE HAVE ALL THESE GROWTH PROJECTIONS AND THEN I THINK IN THE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTIONS, YOU WERE SHARED A WORKBOOK THAT INCLUDES THEIR ANALYSIS THAT REALLY LOOKS AT IT HOLISTICALLY.

YOU'D HAVE TO CLICK INTO IT AND GO TO THAT TAB, BUT LOOKS AT WHAT WAS THE PERCENT UTILIZATION AT AN ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.

THAT'S HOW THEY LANDED WITH NOT RECOMMENDING ANY NEW CAMPUSES WITHIN THAT FEEDER PATTERN.

>> FABULOUS. TRUSTEES, TIME FOR QUESTIONS, AND I'LL START WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.

MY QUESTION IS DIRECTED TO WHOEVER YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE DEMAND FOR THE CTE CENTER CAME FROM.

WHAT FEEDBACK FROM PARENTS, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, STAFF HAS NECESSITATED A CTE CENTER?

>> I KNOW, FROM THE LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLANNING COMMITTEE, THERE WAS A DESIRE TO SEE ENHANCED CTE OFFERINGS.

WITHIN THE GROSS SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK THAT STARTED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE OFFER MORE CTE.

HOW DO WE EXPAND PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT? I THINK THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND THERE WERE SOME DISTRICT PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOO AS THEY WERE ASKING QUESTIONS.

WELL, HOW WOULD WE DO THIS OR HOW WOULD WE BRING IN THIS PROGRAM?

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I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT CAME TO WELL, IF YOU OFFERED IT AT THIS CAMPUS, BUT THEN NOT THIS CAMPUS, THAT'S NOT FAIR FOR THE KIDS AT THAT CAMPUS THAT THEY MAY HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO GO DO AN HVAC PROGRAM.

I THINK THE THOUGHT WAS IF IT'S ALL IN ONE FACILITY, THEN IT COULD OPEN UP THE DOORS FOR KIDS ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

>> THANK YOU. YES, THE CONVERSATION CAME UP THAT RIGHT NOW STUDENTS, WE MIGHT HAVE SEVERAL ON ONE CAMPUS, A FEW HERE AND A FEW THERE.

BUT YOU ACTUALLY NEED ABOUT 100 STUDENTS OR MORE TO BE ABLE TO FUND A FULL-TIME TEACHER WITHIN CTE AND FINDING SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO STAFF THAT PER CAMPUS, BUT ALSO ENOUGH STUDENTS IN AN AREA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRADES THAT WAS DEFINITELY A SENSE THAT CAME FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS ASKING ABOUT OUR TRADES PROGRAMMING.

WE ONLY HAVE A TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT ON ONE CAMPUS.

AUTOMOTIVE ON TWO OTHER CAMPUSES ARE VERY FULL AND POPULAR.

BUT BEING ABLE TO GO MORE INTO THE SKILLED TRADE AREA OF HVAC, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY ENLARGED DEMAND AS FAR AS OPENINGS AND NEEDS TO STAFF OR TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

THAT'S WHERE THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING IN CENTRAL SO THAT STUDENTS FROM ACROSS THE DISTRICT COULD ALL TAKE PART RATHER THAN BUILDING VERY EXPENSIVE SHOPS ACROSS ALL OF THE CAMPUSES, BUILDING THAT CENTRALIZED.

>> POINT OF ORDER.

>> WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

>> MADAM CHAIR, WE ALL KNOW WHO MS. BONDS IS.

CAN YOU PLEASE ASK THE SPEAKER TO IDENTIFY HERSELF, SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY?

>> I'M SO SORRY THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS TO ME.

YES, I'M SHERI BONDS, THE CTE DIRECTOR.

>> THANK YOU. JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING STUDENTS TO GIVE UP THEIR HOME CAMPUS TO PARTICIPATE IN A CTE CAMPUS, CORRECT?

>> THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CONVERSATION TO THIS POINT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE.

IT DEFINITELY WAS A CENTER, SO TRAVELING OVER TO THE SPACE DURING THE DAY, NOT ITS OWN HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO GEORGETOWN ISD HAS PLANNED THEIR FUTURE-READY BUILDING, WHICH WILL START NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

PFLUGERVILLE ISD, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THEIRS, BUT THEY'VE PASSED ON A BOND TO BUILD A CTE CENTER.

THE DISTRICT DOES RECEIVE TRANSPORTATION REIMBURSEMENT WHEN YOU TRANSPORT STUDENTS TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THEIR CTE INSTRUCTION.

WHEN OUR STUDENTS ACTUALLY GO RIGHT NOW ON CLINICAL ROTATIONS TO THE HOSPITALS, WE GET REIMBURSED THOSE FUNDS.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME IF THEY GO TO ANOTHER CAMPUS OR LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TSTC AND MANUFACTURING, WE'LL ACTUALLY GET THOSE EXPENSES REIMBURSED.

>> I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHAT SHERI IS SAYING IS THAT I DON'T THINK THE INTENTION OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO REMOVE CTE PROGRAMS FROM ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL OR FOR MCNEIL, ALL THOSE PROGRAMS WILL EXIST, WILL SUPPORT THEM, WE WANT TO EXPAND IF POSSIBLE.

BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME BESIDES WHAT SHERI WAS TALKING ABOUT STAFFING, IS THE ISSUE SOMETIMES IS SPACE.

I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR PRINCIPAL BACK THEN AT MCNEIL, STUDENTS WANTED TO COSMOLOGY PROGRAM THERE, MAYBE LIKE A BARBERSHOP, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS, WHERE CAN WE HAVE THE PROGRAM, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT.

IF AND ONLY IF OUR BOARD DECIDES TO GO FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT WOULD BE NEW PROGRAMS, PROGRAMS THAT WE CANNOT HAVE ALSO IN ANY OF OUR CAMPUSES.

>> YES, SIR. THE COMMITTEE VERY STRONGLY FELT THAT THEY DID NOT WANT THEIR CTE PROGRAMS TO LEAVE THEIR EXISTING CAMPUSES, SO THE INTENT WAS FOR NEW OR EXPANDED THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY ALREADY OFFER.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THIS PROJECT PROPOSAL, HOW MANY STUDENTS WOULD YOU IMAGINE THAT THIS CENTER WOULD SERVE?

>> WE SIZED IT BASED ON THE FORT BEND CENTER THAT OPENED IN 1920, WHICH IS 165,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> 2020, HE SAID 1920?

>> 1920.

>> NO.

THE 2019-2020 SCHOOL YEAR.

[LAUGHTER] SORRY.

THAT'S A NEW FACILITY. I THINK THAT SERVES, I THINK IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 500 STUDENTS.

THOSE ARE STUDENTS THAT WOULD COME THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND LEAVE THEIR CURRENT CAMPUS. THAT'S WHAT IT'S SIZED AT.

>> YOU SAID 500.

>> ANY GIVEN DAY.

>> THAT'S THE SIZE OF THE MIDDLE.

SORRY. IT'S 165,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S THE SIZE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S HUGE.

>> WHERE ARE WE PROPOSING THIS FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED? IT'S IN THE NOTES.

>> THERE IS A DISCUSSION TO HAVE IT BEYOND THE PEARSON RANCH LAND THAT THE DISTRICT OWNS.

>> THE PROPOSED HIGH SCHOOL SITE.

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>> YES. SINCE THERE WAS NO LONGER A PROPOSITION THIS TIME FOR A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE SPACE AND PERHAPS ENOUGH SPACE TO NOT HAVE IT TAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE SPACE ON THAT SITE.

>> LAST QUESTION.

I SEE THE LOGIC WITH THE PROGRAMMING OFFERED AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE VERY HESITANT TO LEAVE HOME CAMPUSES EVEN FOR A TIME IN OUR DISTRICT.

WHAT FEEDBACK HAVE WE RECEIVED THAT MAKES US FEEL THAT STUDENTS WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY?

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO THE CLIMATE SURVEY, BUT IN THE PAST, WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT SKILLED TRADES, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT, BUT THAT HAS GONE INTO THE CLIMATE SURVEY.

BUT RIGHT NOW WITH STARTING P TECH, WHERE WE HAVE STUDENTS COMING FROM ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND OUR FIRST COHORT OF ABOUT 25 OR 27 AND COMPLETELY SWITCHING TO CEDAR RIDGE.

I THINK THAT GIVES US THE SENSE THAT STUDENTS WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.

AGAIN, WITH SCHEDULING, THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS, MAYBE GOING FOR A HALF A DAY OR AN A DAY VERSUS A B DAY AND JUST LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER DISTRICTS.

WE DO NOT HAVE THAT DATA, BUT THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO DO REQUEST ACADEMY PROGRAM OF STUDY CHANGES ACROSS CAMPUSES AND RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN TRANSPORTATION, SO THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT SCOTT JUST SAID? YOU SAID THAT THE FORT BEND WAS 500 STUDENTS.

IS THAT AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME IF YOU HAVE A DAY, B DAY SCHEDULING, IT'S THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BE SERVING MORE.

THE DISTRICT IS SERVING MORE THAN 500 STUDENTS.

IT'S JUST WHAT IT'S FOR THOSE PROGRAMS.

>> CORRECT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THE THOUGHT THAT IT'S ONLY GOING TO SERVE 500 STUDENTS.

IT'S THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME THROUGHOUT THE DAY, THEY'LL BE 500 STUDENTS THAT ARE ROTATING IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY, BUT IT CAN SERVE MORE THAN THAT.

>> IT DEPENDS ALSO THE OFFERING.

YOU'RE A FORMER CTE TEACHER.

YOU KNOW SOME PROGRAMS MAY ALLOW ONLY 410 OR 15 KIDS AT ANY GIVEN TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PROGRAMMING AND ALSO HOW MANY SECTIONS WE'LL BE OFFERING FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> TRUSTEE WEIR.

>> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT BERKMAN AND PURPLE SAGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT TAKE ON HOW TO HANDLE THOSE TWO SITUATIONS.

I DID TRY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, AND I COULDN'T FIND WHATEVER YOU ALL USED ONLINE WHERE YOU COULD LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ME IN TECHNOLOGY AND I'LL OWN THAT.

I KNOW BERKMAN IS INCREDIBLY LANDLOCKED AND HAS THAT STREET.

BUT I'M WONDERING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN $600,000 FOR JUST A PORTABLE REFRESH FOR THEM VERSUS 4.8 MILLION FOR THREE CLASSROOMS AND HOW THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE.

DOES THAT SEEM EQUITABLE AND IS THAT REALLY WHAT THE CAMPUSES NEED?

>> SURE. THE PURPLE SAGE IS A ENCLOSURE OF THAT OVERHANG SPACE THAT'S EXISTING THAT'S THERE NOW AND SO WE APPLIED ESSENTIALLY NEW CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS TO THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER.

WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND WITH BERKMAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT WELL, CAN WE PUT AN ADDITION ON IT, AND THEN, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO COST? WE'D HAVE TO REROUTE TRAFFIC.

WE'D HAVE TO GET FIRE LANE IMPLICATIONS IN THERE IF WE END UP PUTTING ADDITION ON IT AND HAVING TO DIVERT AROUND THE ADDITION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF PUTTING IN A MODULAR INSTEAD OF TO REPLACE THE EXISTING PORTABLES IN THE CURRENT LOCATION.

BUT WE DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF STUDENTS CROSSING THE STREET, AND WE JUST CAME FULL CIRCLE, MOST COST-EFFECTIVE THING, LET'S JUST MAKE THOSE PORTABLES THAT ARE THERE WET.

THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT.

>> ARE THOSE PORTABLES WE WOULD OWN, OR WE'D HAVE TO BUY NEW PORTABLES TO HAVE WET PORTABLES THERE OR ARE WE TRANSFERRING THEM OUT SINCE WE'RE MOVING PORTABLES FROM OTHER CAMPUSES?

>> WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE DISTRICT DOESN'T OWN ANY MORE WET PORTABLES, SO IT WOULD BE THAT THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE PURCHASED AND INSTALLED THERE.

>> WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BERKMAN AGAIN, YESTERDAY, WE HAD A MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS JUST OUR FIRST TIME HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU ABOUT ALL THIS.

NOTHING IS SAID, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS.

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IDEALLY, WE WANT TO GIVE BERKMAN REALLY IN ADDITION TO, IT'S JUST THE CONSTRAINTS SCOTT WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, IS LIKE THE ROADS AND THIS AND THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE AROUND.

IF WE FIGURE OUT, AND YOU ARE OPEN FOR US, PRETTY MUCH LIKE GIVING THEM AN EXPANSION, THEN THAT'S I THINK EVERYBODY'S FIRST CHOICE.

>> MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE MODULARS LIKE THEY HAVE AT SPICEWOOD BECAUSE THAT IS JUST SO MUCH NICER THAN FOUR SEPARATE PORTABLES.

IT DOES FEEL MORE LIKE REGULAR CLASSROOMS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT, AND YOU COULD STILL HAVE A WALKWAY ACROSS THAT ROAD.

THE PORTABLES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ANYWAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST DIFFERENCE IS, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING SOMETHING.

>> THAT WAS LOOKED AT.

I WENT BACK TO THE NOTES THAT SCOTT HAD BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF THAT CELL BECAUSE IT CHANGED OVER AND OVER, AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT GOOGLE IS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORY.

IF YOU WERE TO REROUTE THE DRIVEWAY, HE LOOKED AT SPICEWOOD, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS ON REROUTING THE DRIVEWAY AND DOING CONSTRUCTION, THE COST THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED AS AN ESTIMATE, WHICH I THINK IS STILL VALID, WAS $21.7 MILLION FOR A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO REPLACE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE EXISTING PORTABLES.

THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT PRICE TAG AND LIFT TO TRY TO REROUTE ALL OF THAT, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME BACK.

>> I ASSUME THAT IF YOU HAVE TO REROUTE THAT ROAD, WHICH I KNOW IS NECESSARY TO GET TO C. D. FULKES, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE HUGELY EXPENSIVE.

BUT I GUESS I WAS, IN MY HEAD, THE MODULE VERSUS THE PORTABLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SITTING ON THAT SAME SPOT, ONE OF THEM IS A MUCH NICER OPTION THAN THE OTHER, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT COST DIFFERENCE, AND THEY'D STILL HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE ROAD, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN MOST SITUATIONS, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD MAYBE GET WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS.

THEN WITH PURPLE SAGE, AND I GET THAT THEY HAVE THAT OPEN OVERHANG THERE WHEN YOU GO DOWN, I KNOW THEY HAVE TWO PORTABLES SITTING OUT THERE, BUT IT'S $4.8 MILLION, AND JUST LOOKING AT THE NOTES THAT IT CAME FROM THE SITE VISITS, IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY COME FROM THE LONG-RANGE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.

THREE CLASSROOMS FEELS VERY THROWN TOGETHER AND ODD, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S MAYBE JUST THAT SPACE, BUT JUST A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON HOW NECESSARY THAT IS FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

>> TIME.

>> IT CAME FROM WITHIN THE COMMITTEE.

FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, THERE IS A COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT IS A PURPLE SAGE PARENT, AND SO THEY'VE HEARD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THEY'VE HEARD FROM THE PRINCIPAL, AND I THINK THAT THIS IDEA, BECAUSE I DISCUSSED IT WITH MELANIE, SHE'S LIKE I THINK THAT THAT'S BEEN THIS IDEA THAT'S BEEN THROWN AROUND FOR YEARS.

THE PRINCIPAL HAS HEARD THIS IDEA, IT'S JUST BEEN, WE COULD JUST CLOSE IN THIS SPACE AND WE COULD GET RID OF THE PORTABLES ON OUR CAMPUS.

I THINK THAT THAT WAS WHERE IT CAME FROM.

THEN LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY AND THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS AND ALL THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE TOOK IT TO HPM AND WE SAID, WELL, WHAT COULD WE ACTUALLY DO WITH THAT SPACE? THERE WASN'T QUITE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ADD A FOURTH CLASSROOM, SO THE THOUGHT WAS YOU COULD HAVE THREE CLASSROOMS WITHIN THAT SPACE AND THEN SOME OFFICE/FLEX SPACE IF IT'S NEEDED ON THE CAMPUS.

THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

>> YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> NEXT IS TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> THIS IDEA OF A CTE CENTER FOR $123 MILLION, WAS THE CTE CENTER PROPOSED IN THE 2017 BOND?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

IT NEVER WAS PROPOSED TO THE VOTERS.

>> SHERI BONDS CT DIRECTOR BECK.

I'M NOT GOING TO MESS THAT UP AGAIN.

IT WAS ON THE 2017 BOND.

I BELIEVE IT WAS PAIRED WITH C. D. FULKES BECOMING AN ARTS INTEGRATION ACADEMY, IF I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THAT, AND THAT ONE DID NOT PASS AND IT WAS NOT PUT ON 18.

>> HOW DID WE GET HERE? I'LL TELL YOU, IN ORDER FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS, I WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE THINGS, TRUSTEE HARRISON ASKED SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, JUST ABOUT LOGISTICS.

I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HEAR EVERYTHING, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME AND BEEN ELEVATED TO THE BOARD, CONCERNS AND ACTION, I DON'T KNOW, TRUSTEE, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONGER THAN ME, ARE YOU SENSING A DEMAND?

>> NO.

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>> IT'S LIKE A FAMILY BUDGET; THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU CAN PLAN FOR A EUROPEAN VACATION, AND THERE ARE YEARS THAT THAT IS JUST A RIDICULOUS IDEA.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WHICH IS WHY A MEETING LIKE THIS IS HELPFUL, AND THIS WILL BE A DECISION FOR THE BOARD, I GUESS, BUT IS THIS A TIME FOR A BOND OF WANTS OR A BOND OF NEEDS? WHAT'S YOUR FEEDBACK ABOUT IF THIS IS A WANT OR A NEED?

>> I KNOW IN 2018 WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS.

>> IT WAS IN MY COMMITTEE IN 2018.

>> I THINK WE KNOW THAT THE AREA IS LACKING OF CERTAIN SKILLS.

MY THOUGHT IS HAVING A CENTRALIZED PLACE WHERE STUDENTS CAN QUICKLY GAIN THOSE SKILLS AND GET INTO THE WORKFORCE MUCH FASTER.

IT IS ENTICING AND CAN BRING OTHER COMPANIES LOCALLY, SO I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND HAVING A CENTRALIZED LOCATION THERE.

>> I DO THINK THAT MAYBE THE CLIMATE AROUND CTE IN GENERAL HAS CHANGED SINCE 2017.

THERE'S BEEN A RENEWED FOCUS, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO GO TO COLLEGE, THAT THERE'S THE CCMR REQUIREMENTS AT THE STATE LEVEL TO WANT TO KNOW THAT KIDS ARE CAREER COLLEGE, MILITARY READY, SO PROVIDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS TO GAIN THOSE SKILLS AND BE ABLE TO LEAVE OUR SCHOOLS AND HAVE THOSE CERTIFICATES AND HAVE THOSE LICENSES, ESPECIALLY THE TRADES, I THINK IS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE SUBCOMMITTEE TOO.

I THINK AS THEY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, I WISH THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THAT THAT THEY WERE ON VACATION SO THEY COULDN'T BE HERE.

BUT THERE WAS EXCITEMENT AMONG THE MEMBERS THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING.

IT WOULD BE COOL IF WE COULD BRING THIS PROGRAM TO OUR DISTRICT AND OFFER THIS TO OUR STUDENTS.

INTO SHERI'S POINT, THERE WAS NO DESIRE, I THINK, TO REMOVE CTE FROM THE EXISTING CAMPUSES, BUT TO HAVE THIS CENTRALIZED PLACE.

THEN ALSO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE STUDENTS STILL BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THEIR HOME CAMPUS TOO WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THAT COMMITTEE, SO BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS TO STUDENTS THAT WANT TO EXPLORE CTE, BUT DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE WAS VERY EXCITING TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF A PLUMBER.

OBVIOUSLY, I SEE A LOT OF VALUE IN THIS STUFF.

BUT I REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO, I WAS IN THE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL CENTRAL OFFICE TALKING TO A STUDENT WHO WAS LEAVING FOR THE DAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OFF PERIODS, HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO A PLUMBING, HE WAS IN A PLUMBER TRADE SCHOOL.

I SAID, OH, MY GOD, REALLY? HE SAID, YEAH, KIDS FROM PFLUGERVILLE ISD AND GEORGETOWN, THERE'S A BUNCH OF US THAT MEET UP THERE AND WE DO THAT.

THAT JUST SPEAKS TO ME LIKE, I NEED SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION BEFORE GETTING BEHIND SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN AN ECONOMIC CLIMATE LIKE WE'RE IN.

I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THIS ONE.

I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON, CAN I GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE MORE HISTORY ABOUT THAT PROJECT FROM THE 2018 BOND? ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THAT?

>> YOU MEAN THE 2017 BOND?

>> NO, THE 2018.

>> OH, OKAY.

>> IT WAS ACTUALLY IN MY COMMITTEE IN 2018, AND THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR A CTE HIGH SCHOOL.

MY COMMITTEE AT THE TIME DECIDED THAT THERE WASN'T THE APPETITE FOR A FULL-BLOWN CENTER, I THINK IT WAS AROUND $100 MILLION AS WELL, AND SO WHAT OUR COMMITTEE DID IN 2018'S BOND WAS ALLOCATE A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT.

WE WENT BACK TO THE DISTRICT, THEY PROPOSED AN ALTERNATIVE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO INCREASE AND ENHANCE OUR OFFERINGS AT OUR CAMPUSES.

I THINK IT WAS 10 MILLION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY NOTES.

I THOUGHT WE ALLOCATED 10, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT'S CRAZY.

>> THAT WAS A VERY LARGE NUMBER.

IT WAS A FEW MILLION, BUT IT WAS [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS DRONE AVIATION AND CONSTRUCTION SCIENCE.

>> DRONES AND CYBERSECURITY.

>> CYBERSECURITY.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> RATHER THAN DOING A FULL-BLOWN CENTER, WE ALLOCATED A FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR NEW PROGRAMMING AT EXISTING CAMPUSES.

NOW, THE PROBLEM WE FACE NOW IS, DO WE HAVE THE FACILITY SPACE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ADD MORE AND MORE NEW PROGRAMS AT OUR EXISTING CAMPUSES? BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GENESIS AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT IN 2018'S BOND, SO JUST A LITTLE MORE HISTORICAL ABOUT THAT.

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IT'S BEEN TALKED IN THE DISTRICT SINCE, I THINK, 2014, MAYBE, EVEN AS FAR BACK AS THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE'VE BEEN DOING RESEARCH ON IT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WITHIN THE COMMITTEE, IT WAS DEFINITELY THE COMMITTEE DRIVER.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN TRADES PROGRAM OFFERINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS, BUT WE WERE DEFINITELY RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS, IT WAS NOT A DRIVING IT TO TRY TO GET TO ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BUT THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO PROPOSE A CENTER, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT DESIRE CAME FROM.

BUT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION ON IF A CENTER WERE TO HAPPEN, AND IF NOT, HOW COULD WE SUPPLEMENT SOME OF OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY OFFER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ALLEVIATES THE NEED FOR AS MUCH OF THE TRADES AS WE SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE JOB OPENINGS.

>> WE UNDERSTAND EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

SCOTT WAS TALKING ABOUT A FORT BEND CENTER THAT WAS OPEN 1920.

ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A BOND THAT WAS PASSED BACK IN 2014, IT TOOK THEM FIVE YEARS TO BUILD IT.

JUST TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, FORT BEND THOUGHT OF THIS 10 YEARS AGO, AND THEIR OWN VOTERS APPROVED IT BACK IN 2014.

IT TOOK THEM FIVE YEARS TO BUILD IT AND THEN THEY OPENED ON 2019.

EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

ALSO SHERI TALKED ABOUT LOUISVILLE, SAME THING GEORGETOWN, THEY HAVE WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR CITY CENTERS.

DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING, I'M JUST SAYING EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S NOT A NEW CONCEPT.

>> I HAVE NIECES AND NEPHEWS IN FORT BEND ISD, I BELIEVE THERE'S 80,000 STUDENTS THERE.

>> IN THE DISTRICT, YES.

>> THAT'S MUCH LARGER THAN ROUND ROCK ISD.

RIGHT NOW, AFTER A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS ON THE CTE CENTER.

BUT I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO LEARNING MORE, IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO JUSTIFY $123 MILLION WHEN WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING WORD OF THAT KIND OF DEMAND IN AN ECONOMIC CLIMATE SUCH AS WE ARE.

THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, I THOUGHT THAT THIS BOARD, MADAM CHAIR, VOTED FOR THAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR EARLY COLLEGE.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. TRUSTEE WESTON.

IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE ENTERED AN AGREEMENT, AT THAT TIME, WITH ACC, AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT, THEY WERE LIKE, I GUESS, A LOAN OF SIX MILLION DOLLARS AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVENTUALLY PAY THAT BACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IF WE GO FOR A BOND, MAYBE WE CAN ABSORB THE SIX MILLION, IF NOT, WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY IT GRADUALLY ANNUALLY, USING M&O.

THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY BACK USING M&O.

>> SO THIS WOULD BE AN INITIATIVE TO USE A BOND LEVY TO FREE UP SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF M&O MONEY?

>> THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DETAILS.

PRETTY MUCH IS DONE, IT'S THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS THAT ACC IS PAYING TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR NEW EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING.

>> IT'S A LOAN.

>> IT'S A LOAN, YES, BUT THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS IF WE PASS A BOND, AND OUR VOTERS APPROVE IT AND BOARD APPROVES IT, THEN WE WILL JUST PAY THAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF FUNDING OR COMING UP WITH THAT SIX MILLION, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, IT'S NOT NEW MONIES, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> IF THIS WERE TO BE ON THE PROPOSITION, THIS SIX MILLION FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IF IT WERE TO PASS, THAT WOULD FREE UP SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF M&O MONEY?

>> BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE WROTE.

>> THE ANSWER IS YES.

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, BUT THE VERBIAGE OF THAT IS A LOAN IF NOT A LOAN.

>> WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY? WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT?

>> CINDY, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT?

>> BECAUSE THEY HAD THE FUNDS, THEY'VE ADVANCED THE CONSTRUCTION COST.

ACC IS NOT A BANK, THEY CAN'T LOAN US MONEY, SO THEY ARE ADVANCING THAT.

WE WERE GOING TO PAY THOSE LONG-TERM, BUT THIS WOULD JUST ENABLE US TO FINISH UP THE CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT THE LONGER TERM COMMITMENT FUNDS.

>> THANK YOU. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

>> THANK YOU. I SAW IN ONE OF OUR RESPONSES IN REGARD TO THE CTE CENTER, THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO BRING IT TO US IS THEY WENT AND LOOKED AT SUCCESSFUL CTE CENTERS IN OTHER DISTRICTS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE FORT BEND IS ONE OF THEM.

IS THAT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO?

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>> I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAID THEY LOOKED AT THEM.

I THINK THEY LOOKED AT WHAT THE OFFERINGS HAVE BEEN, WHAT THE BENEFITS WERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT WORDING WAS.

>> I AM NOT AWARE IF THEY WENT ON ANY TOURS OR NOT.

THEY ASKED INFORMATION ABOUT SPACES THAT WE HAD SEEN AND I DID SHOW THEM FORNEY ISD HAS THE NEW OPPORTUNITY CENTRAL THAT THEY JUST OPENED, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ACTUALLY TOURED ANY SPACES, SORRY.

>> MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REFERENCING, BECAUSE IT WAS AND I'M NOT FINDING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS IN ONE OF THESE RESPONSES THAT THEY LOOKED AT INFORMATION FROM SUCCESSFUL CTE CENTERS, AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD ALSO HAVE THAT SAME INFORMATION.

>> I CAN DEFINITELY SUPPLY THE LINKS OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE MEETING FOR NISD, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> THEN I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, I KNOW THESE ARE P2 AND P3 ITEMS; THESE WALKWAYS, AND COVERING THESE WALKWAYS.

I HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT COVERED WALKWAYS AS WELL.

JUST FROM MY OWN KNOWLEDGE FROM MY LOCAL CAMPUS.

ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES HAS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS PRE K TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S A VERY LONG SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT COVERED, SO WE HAVE TEACHERS RUNNING OUTSIDE WITH UMBRELLAS BUNDLED UP IN INCLEMENT WEATHER, TRYING TO GET THESE KIDS OFF THE BUS AND INTO THE BUILDING.

A LOT OF TIMES FOR KIDS WHO RECEIVE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES, IT CAUSES SENSORY ISSUES AND THEY SPEND HOURS OF THEIR DAY TRYING TO RECOVER FROM HAVING TO RUN IN FROM THIS WEATHER.

I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT NEEDED COVERED WALKWAYS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, HOW OUR STUDENTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM THESE PROJECTS, WHY THEY WERE PUSHED TO P2 AND P3, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE SMALL PROJECTS COMPARED TO SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE'RE QUESTIONING WHAT THE BENEFITS OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD EVEN BE.

>> I THINK THESE WALKWAY PROJECTS, A LOT OF THEM CAME FROM SITE VISIT CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THAT WHERE THEY LANDED ON THESE BEING P2 AND P3, WAS THAT, THEY WERE CONVEYED AS MORE OF A NICE TO HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT SAME CONTEXT THAT YOU JUST GAVE ABOUT HOW IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE EDUCATION OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ARRIVING AT SCHOOL AND THEY DON'T HAVE COVERED WALKWAYS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT SAME INFORMATION WAS SHARED WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT, AND IT PROBABLY BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE THAT MAYBE WEREN'T A SITE VISIT CAMPUS, BUT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY EVEN BROUGHT UP IN A PRINCIPAL SURVEY.

THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AREN'T ASKED AND, DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL COVERED WALKWAY? DID PRINCIPALS THINK TO RESPOND TO THAT? I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GUYS CAN'T CONSIDER IT.

>> WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TOO, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE EXPANDING OUR PRE K PROGRAMS TO LOOK AT SCHOOLS WHO MAY HAVE THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION ON THEIR CAMPUS BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR VULNERABLE STUDENTS AND OUR SMALLER KIDDOS.

THEN ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHO WAS SURVEYED, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT BOND PROPOSALS IS, BECAUSE WE'VE TOURED REDBUD.

REDBUD IS OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT EXEMPLIFIES ED SPECS GOING FORWARD.

I KNOW WHEN WE TOURED IT, REDBUD HAS FLEX SPACE FOR ADAPTED PE, IT HAS FLEX SPACE, IT HAS A SENSORY ROOM.

IT HAS A LOT OF THESE THINGS WHILE MAYBE DON'T DIRECTLY IMPACT THE ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN POPULATIONS OF STUDENTS.

IT DEFINITELY ENHANCES THEIR EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CAMPUS AS EXEMPLARY OF OUR ED SPECS, I KNOW THAT THOSE SPACES WERE NOT EVEN CONSIDERED IN ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS, AND SO I'M WONDERING GOING FORWARD IF WE COULD MAYBE TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS WHO RECEIVE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE VERY MUCH IN THIS REPORT, THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS THAT POPULATION OF STUDENTS, AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT POPULATION OF STUDENTS, QUITE A BIT AND HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR GOALS THERE, AND SO I PERSONALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND UNDERSTAND BETTER WHO WAS SURVEYED AND MAYBE WE NEED TO EXPAND SOME OF THOSE SURVEYS.

>> TIME.

>> I KNOW AND NATALIE PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

BUT I KNOW THAT WE SENT SURVEYS TO OUR PRINCIPALS.

WE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS,

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PRETTY MUCH AND SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS, PRETTY MUCH WE TOLD THEM, THEY HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT AND IF THEY WANTED TO VISIT A CAMPUS OR MULTIPLE CAMPUSES, EVEN MULTIPLE TIMES, WE WERE THERE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM, RIGHT TO FACILITATE THOSE THING.

WE JUST HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH OUR PRINCIPAL AND APS AND WE ASKED HIM, WHERE ELSE DO YOU NEED? LET US KNOW. LOOK AT ALL THE LIST AGAIN AND REMIND THEM.

SOME OF THEM DID, SOME OF THEM MAYBE DID NOT, BUT ALSO WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE SHARED WITH THEM ALSO WITH THE HPM, OUR EDUCATION SPECIFICATION.

THANK YOU. ALL THAT STUFF WAS SHARED WITH EVERYBODY, AND THAT WAS UP TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES REALLY TO DECIDE HOW TO PRIORITIZE.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT STUFF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF STUFF, IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP TO LIKE THE RED BUTTON. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NOT IMPORTANT, BUT THAT WAS UP TO THEM REALLY TO DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR INCLUDED IN THIS BOND.

DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE THE FINAL SAY, IF WE WANT TO ADD OR MODIFY IT OR CHANGE IT.

BUT ALSO THE MEMBERS UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY DO EVERYTHING IN ONE BOND.

MAYBE WE COME BACK AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT DO THIS TIME, MAYBE WE CAN DO NEXT TIME AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

>> CAN I CONTINUE IN THE NEXT TWO MINUTES JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> CHEWY YOUR NEXT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD..

>> THANK YOU. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I BRING IT UP TOO THAT THEY MAY NOT BE P1 PROJECTS.

THEY MAY NOT BE FOR THIS BOND PROPOSAL, BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE, I WAS HOPING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE BASED ON SOME OF THE TOURS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION WAS OUT THERE AND WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> I'M SORRY I REFERRED TO YOU AS CHEWY.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE NEXT.

>> IT'S MY NAME. IT'S FINE. MADAM CHAIR.

>> DO I HAVE LEEWAY TO WHAT I CALL YOU?

>> YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTHING, BUT LATE FOR DINNER.

THANK YOU, CINDY. MY QUESTION IS FOR SHERI BONDS, CT, DIRECTOR. COME ON DOWN.

I FEEL MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST STAY UP HERE.

[LAUGHTER] YOU'RE SCOOTING BACK AND FORTH. I'LL START WHERE YOU WANT.

THESE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE CREATED THESE CENTERS, THEY OBVIOUSLY AND THEIR POPULATION SAW A NEED FOR THEM AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE BETWEEN.

I WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHY WE WOULDN'T NEED THIS IN COMPARISON TO THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS.

BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW IF THEIR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE LARGER IN CTE.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY MORE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE THAN US.

WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THIS?

>> I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DATA TO HOW WE COMPARE WITH FORT BEND, BUT GEORGETOWN IS DEFINITELY SMALLER THAN US, AS WELL AS PFLUGERVILLE AND SCOPE.

>> THOSE ARE THE TWO I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

>> YES. THOSE ARE THE TWO CLOSEST, AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY MUCH SMALLER SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I'VE DONE RECENT ANALYSIS ON OUR COMPLETERS, WHICH IS OUR STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY COMPLETE FOUR YEAR PROGRAMS OF STUDY, OR FOUR CREDITS, WE HAVE A HIGHER CTE COMPLETION RATE THAN THOSE CAMPUSES, AND THE ONE AREA THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT OTHER DISTRICTS DO REALLY IS A FOCUS ON TRADES.

GEORGETOWN OFFERS, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THEY DO HAVE AUTOMOTIVE AND WITHIN THEIR NEW SITE, I BELIEVE THEY ARE BRINGING ON SOME OF THE SKILLED TRADES.

THAT'S A BIG PUSH WITH THE PFLUGERVILLE CENTER.

LOOKING AT SOME OF THE JOB PROJECTIONS IN THOSE AREAS BETWEEN HVAC ELECTRICAL, EVEN WITH AN AUTOMOTIVE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MEDIAN SALARIES WITH GRADUATING WITH AN IBC OF ABOUT 45 TO $60,000 DEPENDING ON THE RANGE, AND IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS GROWTH, IN SOME AREAS, IT'S BETWEEN 3000 AND 11000 JOBS.

CONSTRUCTION IS DEFINITELY WITHIN THE AREA.

BUT ALSO THE AREAS THAT HAVE POTENTIALLY COME UP WOULD BE COSMETOLOGY.

COSMETOLOGY IS SOMETIMES A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC.

BUT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ON OUR HAIR, WE KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT A CHEAP ENDEAVOR, AND SO THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT WAGES WITHIN COSMETOLOGY, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY HIGH WAGE, AT LEAST MY HAIR DRESSER IS NOT HURTING FINANCIALLY.

WHY WE NEED IT IS BECAUSE OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING AND ADJUSTING WITHIN ROUND ROCK.

WE'RE NOT THE SAME ROUND ROCK WE WERE 10 YEARS AGO.

NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS, BUT OUR STUDENTS DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AFFORDED TO THEM THAT OTHER AREAS WOULD.

LEANDER OFFERS AN ELECTRICAL PROGRAM AT LEANDER HIGH SCHOOL THAT THEIR STUDENTS CAN ACTUALLY TRANSFER TO, BUT THEY PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

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THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER IN ROUND ROCK.

IF YOU DO A TRANSFER TO A CAMPUS OUTSIDE OF THE P TECH, STUDENTS ACTUALLY PROVIDE THEIR OWN TRANSPORTATION.

BEING ABLE TO CENTRALLY PROVIDE SOMETHING WHERE OUR STUDENTS WHO MAYBE AREN'T PLUGGING IN AND FINDING THEIR NICHE.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF STUDENTS AND AUTOMOTIVE PROGRAMS AT BOTH ROUND ROCK AND MCNEIL.

WHILE IT'S WONDERFUL AND THEY LOVE IT AND THEY'RE LEARNING GREAT SKILLS.

THEY ARE NOT ALL GOING INTO AUTOMOTIVE TECH TO BE AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIANS.

WE KNOW THAT OF OUR CTE PROGRAMS IT'S EXPLORATION, IT'S REALLY DIVING IN, AND SOME KIDS FIND THEIR PASSION AND GO STRAIGHT INTO THAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE A SENSE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE SO HIGH BECAUSE, THAT'S THE HANDS ON OPTION THAT THEY HAVE AT THEIR HIGH SCHOOL.

RIGHT NOW, WESTWOOD IS THE ONLY CAMPUS THAT HAS NOTHING OFFERED FOR THEIR STUDENTS.

IT'S A DISADVANTAGE FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO WANT TO GET INTO THE TRADES OR FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO EVEN TRY ON, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW, AND OF COURSE, THEIR FOOTPRINT IS REALLY TIGHT ON THAT CAMPUS, SO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SPACE.

A CENTRAL LOCATION WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL STUDENTS POTENTIALLY FROM ALL FIVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIGHT EVEN HELP STUDENTS THAT, RIGHT NOW, CHOOSE SUCCESS BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST OPTION FOR THEM, BUT THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHOICE OF WHERE THEY MIGHT WANT TO BE.

IT MIGHT BE STUDENTS WHO'VE NEVER SEEN COLLEGE IN THEIR PATH OR HAVE SEEN COLLEGE, BUT SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS DEBT-FREE AND I CAN FINISH HIGH SCHOOL AND GO ON MY WAY TO BECOME AN ELECTRICIAN OR A PLUMBER OR COSMETOLOGIST OR AUTO COLLISION WITHIN BODY WORK FOR VEHICLES." JUST LOTS OF OPTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT OFFER A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION.

>> TO BE CLEAR, YOU CAN'T THINK OF A REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT DO THIS?

>> I'M THE CTE LADY. [LAUGHTER].

>> I WANT YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

I WANT YOU TO SELL IT.

>> NO, I KNOW. I CANNOT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE INTERESTED IN IT.

I DIDN'T BRING MY LAPTOP UP HERE, BUT WE PULLED THROUGH THE CLIMATE DATA FROM THIS LAST YEAR AND LOOKING AT STUDENT RESPONSES, BOTH IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN PARENT RESPONSES BETWEEN ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH.

IT'S WELL OVER THE MAJORITY OF PARENTS ARE SAYING, "I CAN SEE MY STUDENT GOING INTO SKILL TRADES." IT'S A CONVERSATION WE HAVE.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

WE KNOW THAT THE INTEREST AND DESIRE IS THERE.

LIKE YOU SAID, THE PENDULUM HAS DEFINITELY SHIFTED OF WHERE IT WAS ONLY FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

NOW IT'S FIND THE BEST PATH FOR YOU AND MAKING RIGHT DECISIONS FOR A PROFITABLE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU, CTE, LADY.

>> YES, SIR.

>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THE STONY POINT CLASSROOM ADDITION, IS THAT ENOUGH? YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT STONY POINT IS PROJECTED TO ACTUALLY GROW.

THAT'S WHERE THE GROWTH IS CENTERED IN OUR DISTRICT.

THE CLASSROOM ADDITION, IS THAT ENOUGH? RIGHT NOW, HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD ARE WE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDITION AT STONY POINT IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH?

>> I THINK WE FELT THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE NEED, THAT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

>> NEXT ONE, STONY POINT ROTC BUILDING.

I KNOW THAT THE COMMENT WAS, "THIS IS ALL THEY'VE ASKED FOR IS A MODULAR BUILDING." BUT, WHEN YOU'RE IN A PORTABLE, THAT'S A HUGE UPGRADE TO GO TO A MODULAR BUILDING.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ROTC FACILITIES AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL AND AT WESTWOOD, IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO A MODULAR BUILDING.

ARE WE DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR STONY POINT BY PUTTING A MODULAR BUILDING IN THERE FOR THEIR ROTC FACILITIES?

>> IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SERGEANT.

>> HE'S A VERY HUMBLE MAN AND I LOVE HIM.

BUT DOES HE KNOW TO ASK FOR MORE? I'M ASKING, DID WE STEP BACK FROM WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR TO SAY, "THIS MAY BE ALL YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT YOU REALLY DESERVE MORE."

>> CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I TALKED ACTUALLY WITH DR. ANTHONY WATSON THE PRINCIPAL ABOUT THAT.

HE DID EXACTLY SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

HE SAID HE'S PROBABLY HUMBLE AND HE PROBABLY THOUGHT IF HE ASKED PROBABLY FOR A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT WE MAY ADD [INAUDIBLE], I GUESS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

I SAID ARE YOU ASKING FOR A PERMANENT AND HE SAID YES.

WE'LL CIRCLE BACK, BUT I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME FEELING ABOUT IT.

>> NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ROTC TEAM.

WHEN YOU'RE USED TO JUST HAVING SOMETHING,

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EVEN A LITTLE BIT IS BETTER, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM.

MY REQUEST IS TO HAVE ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT A PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO REALLY GIVE THEM AN EQUITABLE FACILITY, PLEASE.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GUYS HAVE FUN, SO IF WE NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING, WE'LL TAKE ALL YOUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW FOR OUR TEAM IS TO COME BACK AND THEN, WHEN NEXT OUR MEETING, WE'LL HOPEFULLY ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE MORE DETAILS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> NEXT QUESTION. IT'S BACK, ACTUALLY JUST ONE SLIDE BACK TO 41.

YOU HAVE A P3 FOR THE HERNANDEZ WOODSHOP CONVERSION, BUT YET WE HAVE THE WOODSHOP CONVERSION AT DEER PARK.

>> I THINK THE DIFFERENCES THERE WAS THAT, HERNANDEZ HAS MORE OF THE STRUCTURE TO CHANGE THAT ROOM INTO SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO A CTE FOR NOW, AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER CAMPUS WHERE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REDONE AND CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THAT SPACE.

>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.

>> BUT THEY LOOKED AT BOTH HERNANDEZ AND DEER PARK.

DEER PARK HAS THIS OLD WOODSHOP THAT HASN'T HAD ANY WORK DONE IN IT TO HAVE IT BE CONVERTED TO BE USED FOR CTE SPACE, AND HERNANDEZ HAS ALREADY HAD SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WORK DONE, AND SO THEY ALREADY CAN OFFER SOME OF THOSE CTE PROGRAMS IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL WHERE DEER PARK COULDN'T.

THEY ARE FOCUSING AN EXPANDED INTEREST AND WANTING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THERE SEEMED TO BE MORE OF A NEED BECAUSE THEY COULD ALREADY OFFER THOSE CLASSES AT HERNANDEZ AND WHILE THERE COULD BE FURTHER CONVERSION DONE TO THAT SPACE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR ELECTRICAL DROPS.

THEY ALREADY HAVE THE NETWORK, THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, WHERE DEER PARK DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

I THINK THAT WAS THE DIFFERENTIATOR THERE.

>> WHAT WOULD THE 1.9 MILLION AT HERNANDEZ INCLUDE? BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAR OFF FROM THE DEER PARK, LIKE 2.69.

IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.

MAYBE YOU NEED TO TELL ME WHAT DOES A P3 MEAN AS OPPOSED TO A P2 WHEN IT CAME TO A COMMUNITIES RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE, P3 IN MY THOUGHT WAS, DEFINITELY NOT THIS BOND, MAYBE NOT EVEN THE NEXT ONE.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SHORT SELL HERNANDEZ IF THEY NEED SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT A FULLY FUNCTIONAL CTE SPACE.

MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME WHY.

>> SORRY. I THINK THAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF RENOVATION.

IT'S A LARGE SPACE THAT'S BEING RENOVATED, AND THEN, WHAT ARE WE COMPARING IT TO?

>> DEER PARK.

>> DEER PARK?

>> WHICH IS 2.6 OR SOMETHING.

>> BUT ISN'T THAT IN ADDITION?

>> NO, THAT'S A CONVERSION.

>> THAT WAS A CONVERSION [INAUDIBLE]

>> MAYBE YOU COULD GET BACK TO US WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A SQUARE FOOTAGE DIFFERENCE.

BUT I'LL GET BACK ON THAT.

>> THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME IF IT'S JUST A SQUARE FOOTAGE DIFFERENCE, BUT DEER PARK NEEDS A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THAT FAR OFF IN PRICE, LESS THAN A MILLION.

IT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT IT'S NOT THAT FAR OFF FROM THE PRICES.

IF YOU CAN JUST GET ME MORE INFORMATION, THAT'D BE GREAT.

NEXT QUESTION WAS ON WESTWOOD'S PROJECT NUMBER 17, ON THE ROBOTICS SPACE.

CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? DO WE HAVE THIS AT ANY OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS? WHERE WOULD IT GO ON THE CAMPUS? IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS.

IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE WESTWOOD ROBOTICS SPACE.

>> WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT NEEDING TO HAVE SPACE AT WESTWOOD FOR THE ROBOTICS PROGRAM.

>> WAS 6.3 MILLION FOR THE ROBOTIC SPACE. GO AHEAD.

>> WHEN THEY WENT AND TOURED THAT CAMPUS, THEY LOOKED AT WHERE IS THEIR SPACE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LANDLOCKED CAMPUS.

THERE ARE SPACES, KITCHENS TO BE PARTICULAR.

THERE'S NOT A CULINARY PROGRAM AT WESTWOOD, BUT THERE'S THIS LEGACY SPACE THAT WAS USED FOR I THINK HOME ECONOMICS, CULINARY, OR COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT IT'S NOT WELL SUITED TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HOUSE ROBOTICS.

THE THOUGHT WAS TO CONVERT THAT SPACE TO MORE OF AN OPEN CONCEPT.

YES, IT CAN BE USED FOR ROBOTICS, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR OTHER CTE PROGRAMS.

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THE ONE CAVEAT THAT THEY HAD IN THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TOUCHING THAT SPACE IS A SPACE THAT'S USED FOR FASHION DESIGN CTE PROGRAM.

MAINTAINING THAT THEY DON'T LOSE THAT, [LAUGHTER] THAT THAT SPACE IS STILL THERE.

BUT IF THAT'S THE THOUGHT, IS TO CONVERT THOSE SPACES INTO THE FLEX SPACE WHERE IT COULD BE USED TO PRACTICE WITH THE ROBOTS, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR OTHER PROGRAMS. RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HEARD IS I THINK IS RAIN IN HERE.

ISN'T IT 180 STUDENTS IN THAT?

>> ABOUT 180 IN WESTWOODS ROBOTICS CLUB, NOT CLASS.

>> BUT IT IS A UIL PROGRAM.

WHILE IT'S AT A CLASS, IT'S A UIL PROGRAM.

DURING THE DAY THIS COULD POSSIBLY STILL BE USED FOR OTHER PROGRAMS. BUT IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THAT UIL PROGRAM TO HAVE A SPACE FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD AND PRACTICE RIGHT NOW.

THEY JUST USE OPEN HALLWAYS AND SPACES TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO, IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THEM A GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO, AND IT COULD PROVIDE SOME STORAGE FOR A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE TOO.

>> THIS NOTE SAYS PART OF THAT RENOVATION, BUT IT ALSO SAYS NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

WHERE WOULD WE PUT THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION?

>> THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN INCORRECT WORD.

>> IT SAYS COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EXISTING SPACES FOR 1.89 MILLION, AND THEN NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET FOR AN ADDITIONAL 4.47 MILLION.

>> NANCY, CAN I SAY, I THINK THIS ALSO WAS EVEN CONVERSATION ABOUT POSSIBLY BUYING OR PURCHASING AN AREA, BECAUSE OF THERE IS NO SPACE, IT'S MAYBE SPENDING THIS MONEY ACTUALLY TO PURCHASE LIKE A SMALL SPACE DEDICATED TO ROBOTICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THEY MEANT, BUT I KNOW I REMEMBER LISTENING TO THE COMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING ANOTHER SPACE. PURCHASE ANOTHER SPACE.

>> WHERE?

>> ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK THEY FOUND OUT.

THEY FOUND OUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE FOR SALE ACROSS THE STREET BY THOSE APARTMENTS.

>> YOU CAN PURCHASE SOMETHING AND BUILD FOR FOUR MILLION?

>> I'M NOT SURE.

>> WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.

>> WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.

BUT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE PURCHASING SPACE.

>> I NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. DID YOU SAY TIME? I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

TRUSTEE WESTON'S LIGHT IS ON.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DO YOU MIND IF I JUST FINISH MY LAST TWO QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR ADDITION? LAST TWO QUESTIONS.

THE DEER PARK ADDITION ON THE CLASSROOMS. COULD WE ADD ANOTHER CLASSROOM TO THAT ADDITION FOR THE DANCE ROOM? INSTEAD OF THE DANCE. I DON'T KNOW.

CAN YOU JUST LOOK INTO THAT? ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY, SO WE COULD STILL GIVE THEM A DANCE FACILITY, BUT MAKE IT MORE COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS AT OUR OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

>> SURE. LET ME JUST ADD.

WHEN WE'RE ADDING THESE DANCE ADDITIONS, THERE'S SO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE THAT IS THE EDSPEC THAT THE BOARD APPROVED.

WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR I THINK IS A REDUCED SPACE THAT'S COMPARABLE TO THE OTHERS THAT WOULD NOT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE EDSPEC.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S AN EDSPEC THAT DOESN'T EXIST AT ANY MIDDLE SCHOOL CURRENTLY.

UNLESS WE'RE IN A CLIMATE WHERE WE WANT TO ADD A $7 MILLION ADDITION AT 11 MIDDLE SCHOOLS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE IN THAT KIND OF FINANCIAL CLIMATE RIGHT NOW.

WITHOUT JUST PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO GETS THIS ARBITRARY EDSPEC, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GIVE OUR SCHOOLS THE SPACES THAT THEY NEED TO DO THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY ARE, BUT ALSO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, AND I GET THE EDSPEC, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON ANY CAMPUS CURRENTLY, IT'S LIKE A TARGET SOMEDAY.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO HIT THAT TARGET ON MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE SPACES IN THIS BOND WHEN WE'VE GOT SO MUCH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS ON THE CEDAR RIDGE CLASSROOM ADDITION.

I'VE ALREADY ASKED ABOUT THE MODULAR LOCKER ROOM, BUT I DO SHOW IT'S A 24-CLASSROOM ADDITION, BUT THE RESPONSE SAID IT WOULD NOT REMOVE ALL OF THE PORTABLES, AND THAT A COUPLE OF PORTABLES MAY BE STILL NEEDED FOR STORAGE?

>> I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT ADDITION IS THAT IT WOULD ALLEVIATE ALL THE CLASSROOM USE OF PORTABLES.

THERE ARE PORTABLES ON THAT CAMPUS, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PORTABLE UTILIZATION LIST THAT WE PROVIDED YOU.

>> I DID.

>> I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME THAT NOTED THAT IT'S USED FOR FOOTBALL STORAGE, THERE'S EQUIPMENT AND THERE'S STUFF THAT GETS STORED IN SOME OF THESE PORTABLES.

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OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULDN'T BRING THAT INTO A 24-CLASSROOM ADDITION.

YOU MAY NOT GET RID OF ALL THE PORTABLES ON THE CAMPUS, BUT THE HOPE IS THAT THE STUDENTS WOULD ALL BE IN THE CAMPUS, OR IN THE SCHOOL.

>> MY HOPE IS TO GET RID OF ALL PORTABLES.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND HOWEVER 26 MILLION ON ADDITION AT A HIGH SCHOOL, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PORTABLES JUST TO STORE STUFF.

IF WE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER 26 CLASSROOMS AND MAKE SOME STORAGE ROOMS.

>> [LAUGHTER] IT COSTS MORE TO ADD MORE, IT'S 1,000 A SQUARE FOOT.

>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE USING PORTABLES FOR STORAGE.

THE BOARD SAYS THAT'S OKAY, THEN THAT'S FINE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO SPEND $5 MILLION TO GET RID OF THREE PORTABLES AT PURPLE SAGE.

WE HAVE TO GO SOMEPLACE ON OUR STANCE ON PORTABLES, I GUESS, IS MY THOUGHT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

THE LAST QUESTION IS, DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECT NUMBER 39, WHICH IS AW GRIME SITE.

THE NOTE NEXT TO THAT PROJECT SAYS, "SHOULD BE ENOUGH." THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE, [LAUGHTER] CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE?

>> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT [INAUDIBLE]?

>> WHY DON'T YOU START IT, I'LL PICK IT UP.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WAS AT SEVEN MILLION, AND THEN IT WENT TO EIGHT MILLION.

THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THE INSIDE.

WE WEREN'T 100% SURE.

THERE'S SOME SPACE THAT WOULD BE FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S SOME SPACE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE.

THE OVERALL BUILD-UP COSTS WEREN'T 100% CLEAR, BUT THE THOUGHT WAS [LAUGHTER] IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH.

>> NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING IN THERE, SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD BE FINISHED.

BUT THAT'S THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE NOW.

I THINK AT ONE POINT, DENNIS, I THINK IT WAS FIVE MILLION, AND IT JUST ESCALATED JUST BECAUSE OF ESCALATION AND INFLATION SINCE THAT.

>> I'LL JUST MAKE MY THOUGHTS KNOWN TO THE BOARD ON THAT.

I'M UNCOMFORTABLE FUNDING SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT.

IF WE CAN'T GET GREATER CLARIFICATION FOR ME, THEN I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF A PROJECT THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT, WHAT WE'RE RENOVATING IT FOR.

THAT DOESN'T FEEL FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO ME.

IF WE HAVE PLANS FOR THAT BUILDING, GREAT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE.

>> I THINK THERE ARE PLANS.

THERE'S FOR SURE THE DESIRE TO HAVE THIS ROBOTICS SPACE THAT HAS A PRACTICE FIELD, AND THEN KIDS CAN TAKE WHAT THEY'VE BUILT OVER THERE AND KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE GOING TO COMPETITION.

THAT'S FOR SURE PART OF THE PLAN.

IT'S FOR SURE PART OF THE PLAN THAT MAINTENANCE APARTMENT WILL HAVE A SECTION.

PD MAYBE MOST LIKELY HAVE A CORNER OF IT.

I THINK WHAT WASN'T KNOWN IS WHAT'S ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

WE DIDN'T GET TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF GRANULAR DETAIL.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A PLAN FOR THE SPACE, IT'S JUST THAT TO SAY, THIS PORTION, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FULL BUILD-OUT IS OF BUILDING THAT ROBOTIC SPACE.

I DON'T THINK WE COULD GET TO THAT GRANULAR LEVEL BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS.

>> DENNIS, CAN I SAY SOMEWHAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT THEY MEAN THERE'S NO PLAN IS I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ENTITY FIGHTING FOR THE SPACE, BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS A SPACE, LIKE CHIEF AND THE AC SHARING AN OFFICE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A SPACE.

OUR GROUND FOLKS, WE WANT TO MOVE THEM OUT OF MCNEIL, TO GO OVER THERE.

SOME OF OUR WAREHOUSE FOLKS WANT TO.

EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING FOR THE SPACE, AND I THINK WHEN THEY SAY, "WE DON'T KNOW," IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMPETING FOR THE SPACE.

DENNIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> 90% OF THAT BUILDING IS SPACED AS TO WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING INTO IT.

THERE'S A PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT IS STILL, AS [INAUDIBLE] SAID, BEING DISCUSSED AS TO EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE FRONT LEFT CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

BUT MOST OF THE SPACE IS FOR OUR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, WHICH WE NEED TO GET OUT OF A LEASE OF STORAGE SPACE THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THAT BUILDING.

THE GROUNDS CREW, SO WE CAN GET OUT OF MCNEIL, AND THE FRONT PORTION WAS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEN THAT JUST LEADS THE OTHER SIDE AS TO EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING INTO.

OH, AND THE OTHER PIECE WAS THE ROBOTICS, THAT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO THE SPACE.

THERE'S A PORTION UP IN THE I THINK THE LEFT CORNER OF THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE NOT DECIDED EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING INTO THAT SPACE.

>> THAT IS THE SPACE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AMONG THE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THEY WERE WANTING TO HAVE A FLEXIBLE USE TYPE OF SPACE FOR FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS.

THAT IS A POTENTIAL USE OF THAT SPACE, NOT ATHLETICS, BUT HOW IT WOULD BE USED BY FINE ARTS, I THINK STILL HAS TO BE DETERMINED IF IT IS THAT THEY END UP GOING IN THAT SPACE.

BUT MR. COVINGTON IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

THERE IS A PLAN, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE GO THERE.

THERE'S JUST A SMALL PORTION THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A QUESTION MARK.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> [NOISE] I'M ASKING THIS NOW BECAUSE I KNOW TECHNOLOGY IS NEXT, AND THEN THAT'LL BE LAST, TECHNOLOGY.

I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT FOREST CREEK ELEMENTARY.

DID I MISS SOMETHING? I JUST PULLED UP THAT CAMPUS ON THE LIST.

THAT CAMPUS HAS A STORIED HISTORY.

I DON'T LIVE THERE.

I DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THAT CAMPUS HAS A STORIED HISTORY OF HAVING ALL THESE PORTABLES, AND THAT BEING A PAIN POINT.

WELL, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEYOND A PAIN POINT FOR THOSE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES AND STAFF.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS BOND, ESPECIALLY WHEN I HEAR ABOUT, WHAT DID WE JUST SAY, $6 MILLION AT WESTWOOD FOR ROBOTICS? THEN I THINK ABOUT FOREST CREEK ELEMENTARY.

DID I MISS ANYTHING?

>> YOU DID NOT. THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID LOOK AT FOREST CREEK.

THE THOUGHT, OR REALLY THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PORTABLES ON THAT CAMPUS.

A LOT OF THOSE PORTABLES, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, GOING BACK TO TRUSTEE LANDRUM, WHAT IS OUR PRIORITY ON THE PORTABLES? IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR NON-CORE CLASSROOMS, THEN WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

YOU HAVE KIDS THAT ARE GOING FOR INTERVENTION SERVICES, OR TAG, OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE OKAY WITH THOSE BEING IN PORTABLES OR NOT.

FOREST CREEK DOES HAVE A GRADE LEVEL THAT'S IN PORTABLES.

THE CONVERSATION AMONG THE COMMITTEE AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THAT COMMITTEE AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, IS THAT THE GRADE LEVEL THAT'S OUT THERE, THIS IS WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED, WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE IN THAT I GUESS, PORTABLE CITY TOGETHER, AND THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT.

THERE WASN'T THIS ASK OR THIS NEED TO POSSIBLY HAVE AN ADDITION, AND SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID NOT RECOMMEND DOING AN ADDITION TO THAT CAMPUS.

>> IT WOULD BE OF GREAT NEWS AND SURPRISE TO ME THAT THE FOREST CREEK COMMUNITY, IS TODAY SATISFIED THAT THEY HAVE AN ENTIRE GRADE LEVEL OUT THERE.

THAT COMES AS A SURPRISE TO ME.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE AREN'T THOSE DRY PORTABLES?

>> THEY ARE SOME OF THE OLDEST PORTABLES.

THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROVIDED, BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD AND US.

ACTUALLY IN FACT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PRESIDENT LANDRUM, JUST ABOUT ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR CAMPUS.

AGAIN, THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY COULD AS FAR AS THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD AND US TOGETHER.

COMING BACK. REMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO MEET AGAIN ON AUGUST 1ST, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS BASED ON RECOMMENDATION, FEEDBACK, INPUT.

YES, IT'S ON OUR LIST, THE CAMPUSES.

>> I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON, THAT IT COMES FROM THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHAT OUR PRIORITY FOR PORTABLES ARE.

ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT TRYING TO GET RID OF THEM ON MOST OF OUR CAMPUSES, OR ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THOSE DECISIONS TO BE A POINT IN TIME WITH THE PRINCIPAL? I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TRANSITIONS AT FOREST CREEK IN THE PRINCIPAL ROLE AND THIS PARTICULAR PRINCIPAL SAYS, NO, WE DON'T WANT AN ADDITION.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT PRINCIPAL? I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO DECIDE, ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION AS A BOARD, DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE PORTABLES FOR THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE SUSTAINED ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS? WHAT ARE OUR PLANS FOR THOSE CAMPUSES? ADDRESS THEM ACCORDING TO STRATEGICALLY AND EQUITABLY ACROSS THE DISTRICT, NOT BASED ON THIS PRINCIPAL WANTS THIS OR THIS PARENT WANTS THIS OR WHATNOT, SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN.

>> MAY I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, SO I DO ALSO KNOW THAT WITHIN ELEMENTARY, WHAT THEY WERE LARGELY FOCUSED ON WAS ALSO THE UTILIZATION RATE OF A CAMPUS.

YOU WERE SENT THE FEEDER PATTERN COPY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTED GROWTH.

FOREST CREEK IS SHOWN AT A CURRENT UTILIZATION RATE OF 78% SO MEANING THAT THE CAPACITY AND THEN WHAT THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT IS.

THEY'RE AT 78%, FIVE YEARS OUT, IT'LL BE 92% AND 10 YEARS OUT, 95%.

THE NOTES IN THIS SPREADSHEET AND YOU'LL SEE THIS, IT SAYS, FIVE YEAR AND 10 YEAR FORECAST SHOW GROWTH, REVISIT CLOSER TO NEXT BOND TO DETERMINE THE NEEDS.

THEN THE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT DID HAPPEN WAS, BUT THEY HAVE A WHOLE GRADE LEVEL IN PORTABLES AND SO THE FEEDBACK THAT CAME BACK, THEY WANT TO BE IN THE PORTABLES TOGETHER, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO AND SCOTT ALLUDED TO IT.

A LOT OF CAMPUSES, THERE'S SPACE CREEP, SO YOU HAVE SOME SPACE WITHIN THE BUILDING, BUT IT MAY BE THAT OF HOW THE GRADE LEVELS ARE CONFIGURED,

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YOU COULD MOVE SOME CLASSROOMS AROUND.

MAYBE THEY COULD COME BACK IN, BUT ALL OF THIRD GRADE WOULDN'T ALL BE TOGETHER ANYMORE.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT UTILIZATION OF THE SPACE.

WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE CAMPUSES ON WHICH ONES TO PROPOSE PROJECTS FOR, SAVE PURPLE SAGE BECAUSE THAT'S AN OUTLIER.

BY AND LARGE, THE ONLY OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT THEY LOOKED AT TO PROPOSE AN ADDITION FOR WAS GRATE OAKS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR UTILIZATION, THEY'RE RIGHT NOW AT 103% CURRENTLY, AND THEY HAVE THEIR FIVE YEAR AT 99% AND THEN IT POPS BACK UP TO 103%.

THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE RED CURRENTLY AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS BOND CYCLE.

THEY WERE TRYING TO BE JUDICIOUS LIKE, DO WE NEED IT IN THIS BOND CYCLE? IS THE UTILIZATION THE PROBLEM THAT REALLY WE COULD SHIFT SOME THINGS AROUND AND YOU COULD GET MORE HOME ROOM CLASSROOMS BACK IN THE CAMPUS.

IF THE UTILIZATION IS SHOWING THAT WE'RE AT 78%, THEN THERE'S SPACE SOMEWHERE ON THAT CAMPUS.

WHY DO WE HAVE THESE KIDS IN PORTABLES FOR THEIR HOME ROOM CLASSES? COULD THEY GET BACK IN THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF SCOTT HAS ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT A LOT IS THE SPACE CREATE.

PEOPLE GET VERY COMFORTABLE THAT YOU HAVE EVERY INTERVENTIONIST GETS THEIR OWN CLASSROOM MAYBE, OR THERE'S SOME NICETIES THAT EXIST WITHIN OUR CAMPUSES, WHICH ARE GREAT, BUT YOU CAN RECONFIGURE AND USE THE SPACE DIFFERENTLY.

THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT A LOT.

>> WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I WAS AT FOREST CREEK LAST WEEK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT LONG AGO, AND I WAS THERE BECAUSE OF THIS CONCERN ABOUT THE ENTIRE GRADE LEVEL.

I BELIEVE IT'S THIRD GRADE OUT THERE IN DRY PORTABLES AND THAT'S WHY I WENT TO VISIT THAT CAMPUS AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY UNUSED OPEN SPACES.

PERHAPS MY MEMORY IS FAILING ME.

BUT THEN WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THAT THERE'S A PURPLE SAGE PARENT ON THE COMMITTEE ADVOCATING I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THIS JUST A GAP IN SOMEBODY FROM THE FOREST CREEK COMMUNITY IF THEY WERE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR KNEW ABOUT IT OR HAD THE TIME TO SERVE ON IT.

MIGHT THIS BE A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF ME?

>> THERE WAS A MEMBER ON THE GROS SUBCOMMITTEE FROM THE FOREST CREEK COMMUNITY AND SO IT WAS DISCUSSED.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT WAS IGNORED, THEY DID LOOK AT IT, BUT IT ULTIMATELY DIDN'T LAND IN THEIR TOP PRIORITIES.

>> OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON, ONE OF THOSE PORTABLES AT FOREST CREEK WAS BUILT IN 1979.

THERE'S A LOT OF BRICK AND MORTAR STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT IN 1979 THAT ARE NO LONGER THAT GREAT AND NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REVISED.

WE HAVE A PORTABLE 1979, 1985, THE YOUNGEST PORTABLE THERE IS 1996, I WAS STILL IN COLLEGE THEN, SO THAT'S PRETTY OLD PORTABLES.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE PHONES, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A RULE AGAINST ME HAVING A PHONE.

ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MUST BE WATCHING BECAUSE WE GOT A TEXT MESSAGE TO SAY THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY ENOUGH CLASSROOMS INSIDE A FOREST CREEK TO MOVE THAT GRADE LEVEL INSIDE.

IT IS THE CAMPUSES CHOICE OF HOW THEY ARE USING IT, THIS WAS THE COMMENT FROM THAT COMMITTEE MEMBER, IT'S GOOD PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. THANKS, GUYS.

>> YEAH, THAT IS GOOD.

>> HELPING US OUT.

>> THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS PUBLICLY SO THAT WE CAN ALL CONTINUE TO ADD TO OUR BODY OF UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

ARE WE COVERED WITH GROWTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GROWTH PRESENTATION.

WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND, BUT WE'RE DOING OKAY IT'S 3:20.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM H6 FOR TECHNOLOGY.

I ASSUME THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SPEAKING OF THE DEVIL HERE'S TECHNOLOGY.

COMING TO THE DIAS SO IF YOU WANT TO [LAUGHTER], I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET ALL START YOUR PRESENTATION ON TECHNOLOGY.

HEY, YOU CAN SAY CTE LADY, I CAN SAY TECHNOLOGY GUY.

>> THE CHAIR OF OUR TECHNOLOGY SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TRAVELING FOR WORK TODAY, THE SAME AS AUSTIN PROBE, AND HE DID A GREAT JOB.

HE DID PREPARE SOME TALKING POINTS FOR US AND SENT THAT TO US, SO I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT HIS COMMITTEE'S THOUGHTS AROUND TECHNOLOGY.

THE TECHNOLOGY DOES HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION AS WE LEARNED EARLIER.

I THINK WHAT YOU WILL END UP SEEING BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED EARLIER IS THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY PROP MAY ACTUALLY GROW BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT MAY BE INCLUDED IN THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS.

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THERE WAS ONE THAT I NOTED, SAFETY AND SECURITY WAS TALKING ABOUT SERVERS AND THINGS THAT WERE NEEDED AROUND CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME OF THOSE TECHNOLOGY ITEMS I COULD ANTICIPATE AS THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUT WHAT THE PROPOSITION NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE MAY END UP COMING HERE, BUT THEN IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL PROPOSITION, SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT IF YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS CHANGE AS YOU'LL GET TO YOUR FINAL POINT.

WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS IS CHROME BOOKS AND TEACHER COMPUTERS, IPADS, LAB COMPUTERS.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE LIST YOU GUYS CAN READ.

THEN ALSO THE ROBOTICS TECHNOLOGY ITEMS FOR ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND FOR HIGH SCHOOL, THAT SHOULD BE ADDED IN THAT FIRST ONE.

IT DOES INCLUDE PROGRAMS FOR ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES TO HAVE A REFRESH AND THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS ON THESE CAMPUSES.

I'M GOING TO READ HIS STATEMENT IN A MINUTE BUT RIGHT NOW OUR TOTAL IS AT 145 MILLION.

HE SAID THAT THE REASON WHY THIS TECHNOLOGY BOND IS NECESSARY IS THAT THIS IS A LARGE DISTRICT THAT SERVES MANY STUDENTS AND THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO COVER VISIBLE TECHNOLOGY, SUCH AS STUDENT DEVICES, AS WELL AS THE LESS VISIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS DATA CENTERS, AND THE FIBER RUN BETWEEN ALL THE CAMPUSES.

JUDICIOUS REGULAR INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WAITING UNTIL THE SYSTEM STARTS NEEDING IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT, OR THERE IS A MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE OR WE SUFFER A CYBER ATTACK.

THE STATE EFFECTIVELY REQUIRES ALL STUDENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO INDIVIDUAL DEVICES FOR MANDATORY TESTING, MAKING A ONE TO ONE DEVICE POLICY EFFECTIVELY MANDATED.

THE DISTRICT HAS ALREADY PROCURED DEVICES FOR EVERY STUDENT AS A RESULT OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, BUT THESE DEVICES ARE APPROACHING THE END OF THEIR DESIGN LIFETIME.

REPLACING TEACHER DEVICES, CLASSROOM DEVICES, AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED DUE TO THEIR RESPECTIVE DESIGN LIFE TIMES.

THE BENEFITS OF THE TECHNOLOGY BOND WOULD INCLUDE INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL PRODUCE TECHNOLOGICALLY LITERATE STUDENTS AND ENHANCE EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES.

IT'LL PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH ACCESS TO MODERN RESOURCES AND EQUIPS THEM WITH SKILLS NECESSARY TO THRIVE IN A RAPIDLY EVOLVING WORLD.

IN INDIVIDUAL STUDENT DEVICE ACCESS INTERACTIVE LEARNING PLATFORMS, EDUCATIONAL SOFTWARE, AND INTERNET ACCESS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCE THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE.

TECHNOLOGY IS A CRITICAL DRIVER OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND A KEY COMPETENCY OUR STUDENTS NEED.

PUTTING THIS INTO THE BOND ALSO CAN SIGNIFICANTLY HELP THE M&O BUDGET FOR THE DISTRICT AS IT WOULD BE NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS THROUGH M&O, AND IT NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTMENT VIA THE BOND.

THEY COMPARED THE BOND TO OTHER COMPARABLE DISTRICTS, AND BASED ON THAT, THE PROPOSED BOND IS REASONABLE AND WITHIN THE RANGE THAT WOULD LIKELY BE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

THEIR FINAL CONCLUSIONS WERE A TECHNOLOGY BOND IS ESSENTIAL TO SUPPORT RONDRA AC'S TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING STUDENTS WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO SUCCEED IN TODAY'S DIGITAL WORLD.

BY INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN ENSURE OUR STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO MODERN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, ENHANCING THEIR LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND PREPARING THEM FOR FUTURE SUCCESS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT FOR TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES ABOUT TECHNOLOGY?

>> WELL, I HAVE ONE [LAUGHTER], I NEVER GET TO GO FIRST.

FIRST ONE IS PROJECT 54, WHICH IS OUR FLAT PANELS.

AGAIN, I KEEP SAYING THAT IT CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE IN 2018 THAT WE DECIDED WE WOULD CONVERT THE PROJECTORS TO FLAT PANELS IN ALL OF OUR CLASSROOMS BECAUSE THE LONGEVITY WAS GOING TO BE BETTER.

THE REPLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE COST WAS BETTER, BULBS WERE A PAIN TO HAVE TO CHANGE.

THAT WAS ONLY SIX YEARS AGO, AND WE'VE DONE A ROLL OUT.

ARE THEY ALREADY NEEDING REPLACING? THAT'S $23 MILLION.

>> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I CAN TELL YOU, PART OF THAT IS ACTUALLY, WE DO HAVE A SECTION AT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL THAT STILL HAS PROJECTORS AND MY UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I INHERITED THIS, IS THAT THOSE PROJECTORS HAD JUST BEEN INSTALLED RIGHT BEFORE THE BONDS, [OVERLAPPING] SO WE'RE BASICALLY WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THEIR LIFE.

THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE EQUITY TO THOSE CLASS ROOMS. WE ALSO ONE OF OUR OTHER CAMPUSES,

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AND I'M GOING BLANK RIGHT NOW, DOES NOT HAVE.

>> WHEN YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, YOU SAID SUCCESS IN THE WRITTEN ROOM.

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

CURRENTLY THEY HAVE PROJECTORS, I THINK IT WAS THE SAME REASONING, SO WE WOULD REPLACE THOSE FIRST.

THE TVS THAT WE PURCHASED CAME WITH A SEVEN YEAR WARRANTY.

NOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN WHEN THEY HIT THE END OF WARRANTY THAT THEY ALL WILL DIE SUDDENLY.

BUT WE KNOW AT THAT POINT, GENERALLY, COMPANIES ONLY WARRANTY THE DEVICES UNTIL THEY START HAVING PROBLEMS. WE'RE JUST PREPARING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WHEN THEY HIT SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10-YEARS-OLD TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE AND THE PLAN WAS TO REPLACE ALL OF THOSE.

WE DID HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT DO WE JUST WAIT UNTIL A DEVICE DIES AND THEN REPLACE IT BECAUSE THAT IS A STRATEGY.

OUR TEACHERS RELY ON THESE DEVICES SO MUCH.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A TEACHER WAITING FOR DAYS OR POSSIBLY WEEKS TO GET A DEVICE.

THE THOUGHT WAS, LET'S LET THESE DEVICES GET TO THEIR WARRANTY, MAYBE WARRANTY PLUS ONE, AND THEN START STRATEGICALLY REPLACING THEM.

>> REPLACING THEM PROACTIVELY?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> INTERESTING. OKAY.

>> TRUSTEE LANDRUM IS PART OF ONE OF THE RESPONSES.

THERE WAS A LINK THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU GUYS THAT HAS THE TECHNOLOGY BOND SUMMARY, AND IT'S A LIFE CYCLE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER THAT SHOWS FOR EACH YEAR WHAT THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENTS ARE, AND SO AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THE IFPS DO SHOW THAT THEY'RE A LOT LOWER.

THERE'S NOT AS MANY THAT ARE NEEDED, AND THEN AS THE LIFE CYCLE GOES ON.

THAT'S WHAT BUILDS OVER THE FIVE YEAR CYCLE TO THE 22.8 MILLION.

>> TELL ME WHERE THAT DOCUMENTED, I HAVE CREATED MY OWN BOND FOLDER WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH.

>> IN YOUR QUESTION AND THE RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS, THERE WAS A LINK.

I THINK IT WAS A RESPONSE TO ONE OF TRUSTEE WES QUESTION.

>> WE GOT IT THIS MORNING.

>> OKAY. YOU'LL SEE THAT OUT THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A PHASED LIFE CYCLE THAT WENT INTO THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> PERHAPS THIS NEXT QUESTION IS ALSO ANSWERED IN THAT, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DIDN'T CHECK MY EMAIL THIS MORNING.

PROJECT 62 ON EVERY PHONE NEEDING TO BE REPLACED.

DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE PANIC BUTTON THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN CLASSROOMS, WHICH IS PART OF THE, I THOUGHT ALL OF OUR PHONES WERE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITH SOME PANIC BUTTON.

IF YOU TELL ME WHY WE NEED IT, I'LL SAY, OKAY BUT JUST TELL ME WHY WE NEED EVERY PHONE IN THE DISTRICT TO BE REPLACED?

>> IT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION. I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M DONNIE BRUTON JUNIOR, I'M THE CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, SO APOLOGIZE.

>> YOU ARE TECHNOLOGY DUDE?

>> YES, I'M THE TECH DUDE.

GEEK SQUAD, WHATEVER.

>> THE PHONES WERE ONE OF THE FIRST FROM THE LAST BOND.

THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED.

WE CURRENTLY WITH OUR CURRENT PHONES, WE CAN PROGRAM THOSE AND HAVE A DIGITAL PUSH BUTTON PUSHED OUT.

THE DEVICES ARE BASICALLY NOWADAYS, DESIGNED TO BE COMPUTERS AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO OUR VENDOR WHO IS A BUYER AND ASKED, WHAT IS THE LIFE SPAN OF THOSE? TYPICALLY, THEY WILL LIVE 7-10 YEARS, BUT COMPANIES DON'T SUPPORT THEIR DEVICES 7-10 YEARS.

AS WE GET UPGRADES ON THE SERVER PIECE THAT RUNS THAT, LIKE IF YOU HAVE AN IPHONE, AS THEY UPDATE IOS, YOU EVENTUALLY GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY SAY, WELL, IT WORKS, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ON, IF YOU HAVE AN IPHONE SEVEN, YOU CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

ULTIMATELY, WE'RE PREPARING FOR REPLACING THOSE PHONES.

IT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN MID TO LATE BOND PERIOD, WHICH WE SCHEDULED FOR FIVE YEARS.

BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE PHONES ARE REQUIRED BY TEA IN EVERY CLASSROOM AND BECAUSE WE STILL USE THEM A LOT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDED IT NOT ONLY THE PHONES, BUT ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ARE SERVERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAKE THAT WORK.

>> YOU JUST ALSO TOLD ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW.

TEA REQUIRES EVERY CLASSROOM TO HAVE A PHONE?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I DID NOT KNOW THAT BECAUSE MY NEXT QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH ARE OUR PHONES ACTUALLY BEING USED? IT'S A VALID POINT.

BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE FROM TEA, THEY COULD [OVERLAPPING]

>> I COULD GET YOU THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT IS A CLOSED SYSTEM, WE CAN SEE THE CALLS.

MY GUESS IS THAT THE FRONT OFFICES GET MORE PHONE CALLS THAN PROBABLY ANY PLACE ELSE.

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BUT I DO KNOW THAT OUR PHONES ARE USED PRETTY REGULARLY.

THE BIG, I THINK THE REASON WHY TA WANTED THAT WAS FOR 911 SO THAT THERE WOULD BE EASY ACCESS IN CASE THERE WERE AN EMERGENCY.

>> THEN I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION, BUT WE SAID WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT IN CLOSED SESSION AND WE CAN GET AN UPDATE AT A LATER DATE ON THAT ONE, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE SECURITY CAMERAS IN PROJECT 47.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY? I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT YOUR TOTAL IS NOT MORE.

TECHNOLOGY CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT 150 MILLION SIX YEARS AGO, AND EVERYTHING HAS INCREASED SO I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT YOUR TOTAL ISN'T MORE THAN IT IS.

DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GETTING THE [INAUDIBLE] WORK.

>> WE DO BUY A LOT FROM A COMPANY WITH A D IN THEIR NAME HERE THAT IS IN OUR FOOTPRINT AND A LOT OF THEIR [OVERLAPPING] I PRESSURE THEM PRETTY HARD TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE IN YOUR BACKYARD, WE TEACH A LOT OF YOUR KIDS, A LOT OF YOUR EMPLOYEE'S KIDS GO TO SCHOOL WITH US, SHOW US A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE.

>> ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT ADVERTISING FOR THEM?

>> WHO, [INAUDIBLE]?

>> YEAH. THEY'RE DOING GOOD THINGS, LET'S JUST SAY IT.

>> YEAH.

>> ACTUALLY, THAT IS ONE MORE QUESTION IS ON THESE DEVICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE, ALMOST EVERY STUDENT WAS PUSHED OUT A DEVICE WHEN COVID HIT IN 2020 SO THE LIFE CYCLE IS NOT THERE, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO ELEMENTARY, THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO DO MIDDLE, THE THIRD YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO DO HIGH SCHOOL, THE FIFTH YEAR BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY GOT A LAPTOP IN 2020.

THAT'S CORRECT. MY KIDS HAVE BEEN USING THE SAME LAPTOP NOW AND IT'S BEEN ABUSED.

ARE WE LOOKING TO STILL JUST JUST DO A DUMP OF EVERYBODY GETS A NEW COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME IF THIS PASSES.

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO SEPARATE AT LEAST IN THIS PASS THE CHROME BOOKS ARE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY ONLY HAVE REALLY A FOUR YEAR LIFESPAN.

PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER DEVICES, THEY'RE MADE VERY WELL, OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE LASTED THIS LONG.

BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER.

THEY'RE ONLY DESIGNED REALLY TO LAST FOUR YEARS.

WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO HALF THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN HALF THE SECOND YEAR.

THEN THE GOAL WOULD BE AS WE GET TO NEXT ROUNDS, GO AHEAD AND SEPARATE THOSE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US REPLACE ABOUT A QUARTER OF THOSE PER YEAR.

IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER ON THE DISTRICT.

IT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR US TO FORECAST AT THAT POINT.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO LEARN AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR TESTS AND THEIR ASSESSMENTS AND DO THEIR HOMEWORK.

THAT'S THE PRIORITY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO SEPARATE THAT AND SPREAD THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS ALONG THE LINES OF SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY TRUSTEE WESTON WOULD ASK, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING FROM THE TECHNOLOGY HERE? THAT'S SOMETHING SO CUTTING EDGE AS WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST BE CHASING OUR TAILS TO REPLACE.

I KNOW WE'RE LIKE THE OM1 FIBER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S NEXT LEVEL, NEWEST TECHNOLOGY.

BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A DISTRICT THAT A TECHNOLOGY WOULD TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL THAT WE DON'T HAVE? I'VE BEEN SUPER IMPRESSED WITH OUR CYBERSECURITY BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOME ATTACKS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGHT OFF SO QUICKLY.

BUT IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING IN HERE THAT WOULD TAKE THIS FROM A NEED TO A WANT? MAYBE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ANSWER THAT NOW, BUT THINK ABOUT IT.

>> I HAVE SOME IDEAS.

>> OKAY.

>> IT PROBABLY RELATES.

A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE AI AND HOW THAT ROLLS OUT IN THE COMING YEARS.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS WITH THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD TO AI.

>> CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT, DANNY I'M SORRY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IS VIRTUAL REALITY TO ALL THE NEW THINGS THAT YOU CAN LEARN WITH THE 3D [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FUTURE, I THINK, TOO.

>> I'M NOT LOOKING TO GO EXTRAVAGANT, BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL IN TERMS OF COMPETITION AND ATTRACTING THE BEST.

>> A BIG PART OF THAT IS WE MAKE SURE TO HAVE REGULAR CONVERSATIONS WITH CTE, WITH ALL OF OUR GROUPS WITH ATHLETICS, WITH FINE ARTS, WITH ALL OF THE ACADEMIC AREAS TO MAKE SURE ARE WE PROVIDING? THAT'S ALWAYS MY FEAR IS ARE WE PROVIDING WHAT YOU GUYS NEED? I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A PLAN TO REPLACE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE,

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WE ALWAYS ASK THAT QUESTION BEFORE WE EVER MAKE A PURCHASE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE DO YOU STILL NEED THIS? IS THIS THE BEST WAY TO SPEND THE MONEY? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY TECHNOLOGY IS NOT HERE FOR TECHNOLOGY'S SAKE.

WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TEACHERS CAN TEACH AND OUR KIDS CAN LEARN.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON AND YOU INHALED, MR. [INAUDIBLE] DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> NO. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, ARE YOU PROPOSING A CTE CENTER?

>> NO, YOU ARE. I THINK THAT BRINGS US TO H7, OUR CBC BOND SUMMARY.

THERE ARE A FEW I THINK SIX PAGES FOR YOU GUYS TO WRAP THIS UP.

THEN THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE I THINK IF ANY TRUSTEE WANTS TO MAKE A PHILOSOPHICAL STATEMENT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, THIS WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD TIME FOR THAT IF YOU HAD A STATEMENT.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO, BUT THIS WOULD BE JUST A GENERAL FEEDBACK ABOUT THE DAY TYPE THING.

I'LL TURN TO POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

>> YES. PRESIDENT LANDRUM, ARE WE DISCUSSING FUTURE DATES?

>> YES.

>> I HAVE A VERY HARD STUFF AT 4:00 SO JUST GIVING YOU HEADS UP SO WE CAN GET TO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK.

THERE WAS A SLIDE THERE, I GOT IT TAKEN OUT, SO I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL GO BACKWARDS.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR TOTAL OF ALL OF THE BONDS.

IT'S $1.175 BILLION.

THE LARGEST IS OBVIOUSLY THE PROP A, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES UP ALL OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN THE DISTRICT, ANY OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSIONS TO CAMPUSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE CTE CENTER, IF YOU GUYS DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THAT BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION SO THAT VOTERS FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE AND THAT VOTERS ARE VERY CLEAR-EYED ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR WITH A PROPOSED CTE CENTER.

THEN ANY ATHLETICS PROPOSITION WOULD NEED TO BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION AS WELL AND TECHNOLOGY AS WELL.

>> AND FINE ARTS.

>> FINE ARTS, BUT THERE WAS NO PROPOSAL FOR AN AUDITORIUM THAT WOULD EXCEED THE THOUSAND.

>> YEAH, THERE IS TOUCHING THE SETTLER RIDGE PARK AND THE STONY POINT PACK, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO GO ON A SEPARATE PROP.

>> JUST THE REFURBISHMENT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> WOW, OKAY.

>> WELL, THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY PREPARED BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT.

>> NO WORRIES.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS WE WANTED TO LOOK AT A COMPARISON TO OUR SURROUNDING DISTRICTS SO WE PULLED WHAT THE MOST RECENT BONDS HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY HEARD ABOUT AUSTIN ISD AND THEIR OVER $2 BILLION BOND THAT WAS PASSED IN NOVEMBER OF '22.

BUT I THINK THE INTERESTING STORY THAT THE NUMBERS TELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS IS WHILE THERE IS A PROPOSAL OF $1.175 BILLION FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS, WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES WHAT YOU GUYS END UP APPROVING TO HAVE GO BEFORE VOTERS, THAT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 47,225 STUDENTS.

THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE WHEN WE PREPARED THIS IN 56 SCHOOLS.

THE AMOUNT PER STUDENT IS $24,881.

PFLUGERVILLE, THEY HAD AN INTERESTING SITUATION, SO WE INCLUDED IN HERE JUST FOR COMPLETENESS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEIR BOND PROPOSITIONS PASSED AND SO IT BRINGS THEIRS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT 24,000 GOES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.

HUTTO ISD IS OBVIOUSLY HAS A LOT OF GROWTH OUT THERE, SO RIGHT NOW THEIR STUDENT POPULATION IS LOWER, BUT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR GROWTH.

THE MAJORITY OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR ROUND ROCK ISD IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT DO ATTEND HERE.

THAT 24,881, I THINK, THAT IT SEEMS REASONABLE WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE AREA.

THEN AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE CONSENSUS THE LEADERSHIP IN THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE A BOND PROPOSED THAT WOULD INCREASE THE I&S TAX RATE.

THAT PUTS THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ONE AND $1.25 BILLION.

OF COURSE, IF IT'S LOWER.

MR. COVINGTON CAN CORRECT ME.

BUT WHAT I THINK THAT WOULD MEAN IS THAT THAT 0.198 WOULD BE ABLE TO DROP TO A LOWER TAX RATE SOONER.

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IF IT ENDS UP DROPPING BELOW THAT, THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. COVINGTON? THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.

WITH THAT, AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE THIS UP ON THE SCREEN AS WE'RE FINISHING OUT THE DAY.

BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF YOU NOW.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE DISTRICT STAFF TO WORKING WITH FABIAN.

IT'S BEEN A BIG EXERCISE, BUT IT HAS BEEN REWARDING AS WELL, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT GETTING TO MEET PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND DIFFERENT LEARNING COMMUNITIES THAT I HAVEN'T EVER MET BEFORE.

WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY OR OPEN IT FOR QUESTIONS.

>> ANOTHER THING I THINK ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE VERY OPEN-MINDED.

THEY DID A LOT OF WORK SO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS COMING OUT OF INFORMED DECISION.

BUT WE WANT TO THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT THING I WAS GOING TO SAY.

OBVIOUSLY, A BIG THANK YOU TO THE TWO OF YOU WHO CO-CHAIRED THIS ADVENTURE.

INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK, AND I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COUNT AND ESTIMATE HOW MANY HOURS THAT YOU SPENT ON THIS.

BUT ALSO A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT VOLUNTEERED ON ALL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND MADE THE SITE VISITS AND TOOK TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES TO REALLY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN THIS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE.

I KNOW THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON THE DIAS THAT WOULD SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM THAT SO THANK YOU.

THE THOUGHT OF US AS TRUSTEES HAVING TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS JUST DID, I'D NEED A PAY RAISE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TRUSTEES, AT THIS POINT, I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE ANY STATEMENTS.

BUT THE PLANS FROM HERE ON OUT IS WE HAVE MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 1ST, AUGUST 8TH, AND AUGUST 15TH.

YOU GUYS HAVE OBVIOUSLY DONE A WHOLE LOT OF HOMEWORK UP TO THIS POINT.

BUT NOW IS EVEN TIME FOR MORE HOMEWORK.

NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THE CBC PRESENTATION, THEIR JUSTIFICATION AS TO WHY THEY RECOMMENDED THESE PROJECTS, WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION FROM THE DISTRICT, YOU NEED FOLLOW UP, YOU WANT TO FIND OUT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THIS WORK WAS DONE COMMITTEE WORK, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO MAKE SOMEBODY AT THE DISTRICT HAPPY, IT WAS TRULY A CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE.

LOOKING AT ALSO THE DISTRICT'S RECOMMENDATION AND HOW THOSE MATCH UP AND FEASIBILITY AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE.

IF YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR FOLLOW UP, FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.

I ASKED FOR PRICING ON A ROTC FACILITY AT STONY POINT.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY NEXT STEPS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THAT NEEDS TO GET IN IN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS SO THE DISTRICT HAS TIME TO PREPARE FOR OUR AUGUST 1 MEETING.

THAT'LL BE A NIGHTTIME MEETING, WHICH BY THE WAY, I DID NOT MENTION, BOTH OF OUR CO-CHAIRS TOOK THE DAY OFF FROM THEIR PAID JOB.

WHILE IT MAY BE A BLESSING TO NOT BE AT YOUR JOB, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE CHOSEN TO SET IN THIS BOARDROOM FOR THE LAST 7.5 HOURS.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING A DAY OFF FROM YOUR WORK, BUT IT'LL BE AN EVENING MEETING.

COMMUNITY CAN ALSO BE ENGAGED IN THAT AS WELL, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

I WAS LOOKING AND SENT OUT INFORMATION ABOUT A MEETING ON AUGUST THE 5TH.

CURRENTLY, I HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SAID YES TO THAT.

AMY AND I ARE GOING TO BE SITTING AROUND TALKING BY OURSELF RIGHT NOW.

I THINK PATTY SENT OUT THE E MAIL FOR YOU GUYS TO BRING YOUR CALENDAR.

IS THERE ANY TIME BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 15TH THAT WE COULD LOOK AT SOME AVAILABILITY TO ADD ONE MORE MEETING?

>> I LOOKED AT AUGUST 6TH, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SUCCESS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION THAT NIGHT.

I REALLY LIKE TO AVOID BACK TO BACK MEETING NIGHTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO AND YOU CAN BRING OUT YOUR PHONE, BY THE WAY, UNDER BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES TO LOOK AT CALENDARING.

I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID A BACK TO BACK MEETING NIGHT FOR AUGUST 7TH AND 8TH.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE ONE MORE MEETING THAT IF WE NEED, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE LEFT ANY DUE QUESTIONS BECAUSE AUGUST 15TH IS REALLY OUR DROP DEAD.

IT'S OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

IF WE DECIDE TO CALL FOR A BOND, IT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN AT THAT MEETING.

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IS ANYBODY AVAILABLE ON AUGUST 12TH? YOU ARE. AMY, ARE YOU ON THE 12TH? JESTY, IS THAT THE?

>> MAYBE. I HAVE TO MISS WORK.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON, ARE YOU AVAILABLE ON THE 12TH?

>> THIS IS WHY I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.

I FEEL LIKE THE TIMELINE IS RUSHED.

I FEEL LIKE IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PUSH THIS TO A MAY ELECTION.

I HAVE TWO COLLEGE STUDENTS GOING TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF AUGUST.

I REALLY CAN'T COMMIT TO ANYTHING BEYOND THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON THE 15TH.

I THINK I CAN GO TO THESE MEETINGS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE A PARENT OF MULTIPLE COLLEGE STUDENTS FIRST TWO WEEKS OF AUGUST, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN 100% COMMIT TO AND I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD.

I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU.

>> I GET IT. I'M A PARENT OF TWO COLLEGE STUDENTS AS WELL, SO I TOTALLY GET THAT.

WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT AUGUST 13TH. IS THAT ANY BETTER?

>> THAT'S THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, THOUGH, FOR STAFF. I DON'T KNOW.

>> NO, I KNOW IT STINKS, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A SHORT TIMELINE IN SOME PERSPECTIVES.

IT'S LONGER THAN WHAT WE HAD IN 2018, BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD IN 2018 DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN UNTIL AUGUST THE 5TH BECAUSE I MADE IT, AND THEY HAD TO DO ALL OF THIS IN TWO WEEKS.

WHILE IT MAY SEEM RUSHED TO SOME, IT'S TWICE AS LONG AS THE BOARD HAD TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN 2018.

I GET THAT IT'S NOT A GREAT IDEA.

>> I COULD BE THERE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, SO I'M GOING TO BE HERE, BUT BE POSSIBLE TO JUST MAKE THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE LONGER.

>> FOR WHAT?

>> MAKE THE MEETINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE QUORUM FOR LONGER, ESPECIALLY THOSE FIRST TWO, OR YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED A THIRD MEETING.

IN ADDITION TO.

>> WELL, WE HAVE THREE THAT WE CAN USE AND WE CAN USE AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED ON AUGUST 15TH, BECAUSE WHAT'S THE DEADLINE ACTUALLY THE MONDAY THE 19TH? WE CAN WRAP THINGS UP AT A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO AT A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO HANDLE AT A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

>> I'M OPEN TO DOING THAT ON ONE OF THOSE DATES, BUT I COULDN'T DO IT ON MULTIPLE.

I HAVE TO FIND CHILDCARE FOR THESE DAYS.

>> ME TOO.

>> I CAN'T DO THAT ON MULTIPLE DATES.

>> MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS, I HAVE TO FIND CHILDCARE AS WELL.

THEY'RE NOT MY FIRST CHOICE, BUT IF I WOULD RATHER NOT GO LONGER BECAUSE IF LIKE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

IF THERE'S NOT A DAY OR TWO IN BETWEEN TO GET MORE INFORMATION, SHOULD WE NEED IT OR TO RECALCULATE NUMBERS, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO LONGER VERSUS MULTIPLE TIMES.

>> THEN WE ARE LEFT WITH AUGUST 1ST, AUGUST 8TH, AND AUGUST 15TH TO WRAP THIS UP.

IF ON AUGUST 15TH, WE DECIDE AS A BOARD THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. WE DON'T CALL FOR A BOND.

>> WELL, CAN WE PUT OUT THE 12TH AND THE 13TH TO THE BOARD? I MEAN, I COULD DO EITHER OF THOSE.

OBVIOUSLY, I COULD DO THE FIFTH TOO, BUT.

>> I CAN DO BOTH OF THOSE DATES, TOO, MAYBE WE JUST SEE WHICH ONE WE HAVE MORE.

>> I CAN'T DO THE 12TH. THE 13TH WOULD BE A STRETCH, BUT IF WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO, I CAN DO IT.

>> I CAN'T DO THE 12TH, BUT I COULD POSSIBLY DO THE 13TH.

>> I CAN DO THE 13TH.

PATTY, DO YOU MIND SENDING OUT TO HOLD THE CALENDAR FOR THE 13TH AND THEN THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE OFFICIAL RSVPS.

IT IS NOT IDEAL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT.

>> I KNOW THAT'S FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

>> NO. WE WILL MAKE IT WORK.

WE'RE HERE. BUT I KNOW.

>> THE WEEK OF A BOARD MEETING AND WE TRY NOT A LOT.

I HAVE TO PREPARE FOR TWO BOARD MEETINGS IN ONE WEEK.

>> NO WAY, AUGUST 6TH.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SUCCESS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.

WE DOUBLE CHECK IN BECAUSE I THINK LAST YEAR WE HAD IT DURING THE DAY.

IF WE ARE DOING IT DURING THE DAY, THAT WOULD FREE UP MAYBE 6TH OF AUGUST EVENING.

IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY.

>> DURING THE GRADUATION DURING THE DAY?

>> I THINK WE DID IT LAST YEAR.

WE DID IT LAST YEAR DURING THE DAY.

I REMEMBER DURING DURING THE DAY.

>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AT NIGHT FROM TEXAS. [BACKGROUND]

>> IT'S 6:30 TO 7:30.

LAST YEAR, IT WAS IN THE EVENING TOO.

>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE EVENING.

BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET CHILDCARE. IT'S A TUESDAY.

>> WELL, WE HAVE THE 13TH AS A TENTATIVE.

WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL IT ON THE 8TH IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND WE CAN WRAP THINGS UP ON THE 15TH.

WE'LL HAVE A TENTATIVE FOR THE 13TH AS WELL.

WE HAVE NINE MINUTES LEFT.

ANY TRUSTEES WANT TO MAKE ANY FINAL STATEMENTS.

>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO DAY TIME?

>> I'M OPEN TO IT.

I ONLY CHOSE A DAYTIME FOR THIS BECAUSE IT WAS

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SUCH A VOLUMINOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TO GO OVER.

SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS DAYTIME MEETINGS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WANT TO ATTEND.

I REALLY WANT TO HONOR THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HAD.

BUT IF THAT'S WHEN IT, I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO HIT SEVEN PEOPLE SCHEDULE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND GENERALLY, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO US NOT HAVING THE TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND I DON'T WANT TO DO A DAYTIME MEETING, EITHER.

WE GIVE A LOT OF TIME, BUT IF THAT MIGHT BE EASIER ON OUR SCHEDULES.

>> THAT WOULD MAKE IT WHERE I COULD DO THE 12TH OR THE 13TH.

>> FIRST STAFF, THOUGH, I DON'T KNOW.

>> WE CANNOT DO DURING THE DAY ON THE 13TH ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

>> COME ON.

>> NO WAY. I'M MAKING AN EXECUTIVE DECISION ON THAT ONE.

>> I JUST NEED SOME LEEWAY TIME IF WE'RE DOING DURING THE DAY, MONDAYS, TUESDAYS, OR THURSDAYS. SAME FOR ME.

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN LEEWAY TIME?

>> I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH MY SCHEDULE AT WORK.

>> THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN WRAP THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS RIGHT HERE.

WELL, I HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT ABOUT DURING THE DAY ON THE 6TH? IT'S A TUESDAY. WHO'S AVAILABLE DURING THE [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M NOT AVAILABLE AT ALL ON THE 6TH?

>> I CAN.

>> I COULD DO THE 6TH DURING THE DAY.

>> ARE YOU OUT THE WHOLE WEEK OF THE 5TH TRUSTEE MARKUM? YOU'LL BE BACK ON THE 8TH.

BUT YOU'RE OUT. YOU GOT OTHER COMMITMENTS. GOT IT.

THEN I THINK IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AT EITHER DURING THE DAY ON THE 12TH, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THAT'S A DAY BEFORE SCHOOL, AND I'M SURE STAFF NEEDS TO BE PREPPING DURING THE DAY FOR THIS FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY.

WE'LL LEAVE IT AS A MAYBE ON THE 13TH, BUT DO OUR DARNDEST TO WRAP THINGS UP THE FIRST 8TH AND THE 15TH.

I'LL LOOK AT THE AGENDA ON THE 15TH AND SEE BEFORE IT OFFICIALLY POST IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO CUT FROM THAT AGENDA TO ALLOW US MORE DISCUSSION TIME ON THE 15TH.

THEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO CALL FOR THE BOND IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE, OR CAN WE DO THAT IN A RESOLUTION? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CALL FOR A BOND.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE AN ACTION ITEM.

>> I WOULD WANT TO CHECK WITH BOND COUNCIL, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT IN A REGULAR MEETING.

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>> IN ADVANCE, WOULD WE WANT TO BE MAKING CHANGES TO THE PACKAGING THAT NIGHT? SHOULD IT BE TOTALLY WRAPPED UP BY THE EIGHTH OR THE 13TH AND THEN COME TO THE MEETING ON THE 15TH WRAPPED UP? I DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME ON THAT ONE.

GET BACK TO ME ON THAT ONE SO THAT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PREPPING FOR.

TRUSTEE HARRISON, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? DID YOU HAVE A STATEMENT?

>> OH, MY ONLY STATEMENT WAS JUST THANK YOU TO THE BOND, CBC CHAIRS, TO THE COMMITTEE.

I KNOW PRESIDENT LANDRUM ALREADY SAID THAT.

JUST TO OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE BROUGHT TO US BY A LOT OF HARD WORK, INFORMED BY HPM.

THANK YOU HPM INFORMED BY A LOT OF HARD WORK WITH OUR STAFF AND FROM OUR STAFF.

BUT NOW ULTIMATELY THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITH US AS A BOARD.

YOU MAY SEE THINGS CHANGE, YOU MAY SEE THINGS GO.

YOU MAY SEE THINGS COME AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE ALL PREPARED AND KNOWING THAT THE GOAL IS TO CENTER THE NEEDS OF ALL STUDENTS AND THINK OF OUR DISTRICT VERY BROADLY.

I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO NOT TAKE THAT PERSONALLY, AS WE SEEK TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR ALL STUDENTS IN ROUND ARCHSD, BUT THANK YOU AND COMMUNITY, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR INPUT AS WE CONTINUE THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU.

>> TRUSTEE WESTON.

>> I REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE REQUEST AND THAT WOULD BE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I THINK I CAN MAKE THESE MEETINGS.

I CAN'T COMMIT 100%, BUT I PLAN TO BE THERE.

MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT AND DR. REZZ I DON'T KNOW WHO ON YOUR STAFF WOULD DO THIS, BUT YOU WOULD.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE OFFER SOME EXPLANATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AS TO HOW THEY ARE IMPACTED, HOW OUR TAXPAYERS ARE IMPACTED IF THE BOND PASSES AND IF THE BOND FAILS.

BECAUSE IT'S OFTENTIMES A LOT OF LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.

THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS MADE THAT THE BOND IS FREE BECAUSE IF THE TAX RATE DOESN'T GO UP, THEN IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS OR IF WE CAN SEEK CONSENSUS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN EXPLANATION THE NEXT TIME WE CONVENE REGARDING THE TOPIC OF THE BOND, HOW IT IMPACTS THE TAXPAYER IF THE BOND PASSES OR IF THE BOND FAILS.

>> I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR TRUSTEE?

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>> THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX.

>> WILL BE DONE.

>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

AS FAR AS CO-CHAIRS, SUBCOMMITTEES, WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS FROM US? GOING FORWARD.

>> I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU COULD BE AROUND IF WE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTENT BEHIND THE CBC'S REASONING WHY THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THE PRESENTATION FOR US.

AT THIS POINT, NOW IT'S TRUSTEES UNDERSTANDING, LOOKING AT PHILOSOPHICAL DECISIONS AND HOW MUCH TRUSTEES WANT A STOMACH TO ACTUALLY PUT ON A BOND, AND I THINK IT MORE OF AN INTERNAL DISCUSSION WITH ADMINISTRATION, BUT THAT'S JUST I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

I HOPE THAT YOU CAN ATTEND AND BE THERE IF WE NEED TO CALL IN REINFORCEMENTS.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW BASICALLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BE HERE, BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THESE MEETINGS AS WELL.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY WAS JUST A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF THE REPORT THAT THEY MAY FIND ON THE AGENDA.

WITHIN THAT REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT REPORT WAS TO TAKE WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAD PROVIDED TO FABIAN AND I.

YOU'LL HAVE WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, WHERE IT LANDED WITH OUR FINAL REPORT.

THEN IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO APPENDIX A, APPENDIX A WILL HAVE LINKS TO A SUMMARIZED PROJECT LISTING PER CAMPUS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THE NITTY-GRITTY DETAILS.

TRUSTEE LANDRUM IS REFERRING TO SPECIFIC PROJECT NUMBERS.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR DETAILED PROJECT LIST.

APPENDIX A IS WHERE YOU WOULD FIND THESE DETAILED PROJECT LISTS.

THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL LINKS WITHIN THAT DOCUMENT, AND THEY'RE ALL PUBLICLY VIEWABLE LINKS WHENEVER YOU SELECT THEM.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONAL ITEMS, THE PORTABLE UTILIZATION LIST, THE PRINCIPAL SURVEYS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S ALL AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND DIGEST I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO PLEASE READ THE REPORT BEFORE YOU JUST GO AND START LOOKING AT THE PROJECT LIST BECAUSE THERE IS CONTEXT THAT MATTERS.

THERE'S ALSO LINKS IN THERE TO EACH SUBCOMMITTEE'S FINAL REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO FABIAN AND I.

THE WAY THE REPORT WAS WRITTEN AND PROVIDED WAS REALLY TO PROVIDE AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE STARTED, WHAT WERE THE ORIGINAL REPORTS COMING FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE, ANY CHANGES THAT FABIAN AND I MADE IN THE FINAL REPORT PREPARATION AND PRIORITIZATION.

THEN WHERE OUR FINAL PROJECT LISTS ARE AND THE RESOURCES THAT CAME FROM THAT.

LIKEWISE, ON THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE ARE RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN FROM ALL OF THE TRUSTEES THAT WE RESPONDED TO IN DISTRICT ASSISTED WITH RESPONDING TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL.

WITHIN THAT, THERE ARE HYPER LINKS WITHIN SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WILL ALSO TAKE YOU OUT TO ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.

THE FENCING LIST THAT TRUSTEE MARKUM REFERRED TO OR THE WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE HB-3 GROWTH ITEMS. THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE.

HOPEFULLY, OUR COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE INTERESTED AND THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIG INTO IT.

THE GOAL WAS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE STORY BEHIND WHERE WE LANDED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> I DO HAVE ONE LAST REQUEST FOR THE TWO OF YOU.

IF YOU CAN BE A SOUNDING BOARD AND A GATHERER, IF AFTER WATCHING TODAY'S PRESENTATION, ANY OF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE FEEDBACK THAT THEY FEEL LIKE WE DIDN'T GET THE FULL STORY, OR WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

IF YOU CAN GATHER ALL OF THAT AND GET IT TO US AS TRUSTEES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING, IF FOR SOME REASON, I KNOW IT'S A LONG DAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE HERE, SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT THEY WANT US TO KNOW, IF YOU COULD GATHER THAT AND GET IT ALONG TO US.

>> PASS ALONG.

>> YES. THAT PUTS IT ALL.

IT'S EASIER THAN GETTING 17 DIFFERENT EMAILS ABOUT, WELL, THIS ONE PROJECT.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE EVEN REACHING OUT TO YOUR COMMITTEE FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN IF YOU GET ANY, PASS IT ALONG TO US.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> GREAT.

>> WE'LL SEND OUT A FOLLOW UP NOTE TO THE LEADERS AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK.

FROM THIS WORKSHOP.

>> JUST SIDE NOTE, YOU CAN WATCH A BOARD MEETING AT 2X SPEED SO YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT A LOT FASTER.

WE SOUND A BIT LIKE CHICK MONKS,

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BUT YOU CAN WATCH IT A LOT FASTER.

I SEE NOTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S 4:01 PM.

WE ARE ADJOURNED. [NOISE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.