Feb 15, 2024 Regular Board Meetings

[B. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING.

IT IS 6:26 ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE 15TH, 2024.

I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES REGULAR BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.

WE HAVE ALL 7 TRUSTEES IN ATTENDANCE.

SO A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

ALLEGIANCE], PLEDGE] ALRIGHT. WE HAVE FIRST UP ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D 1, RECOGNITION OF STUDENTS AND STAFF.

[D. RECOGNITION OF STUDENTS AND STAFF]

GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

TRUSTEES. DR. AZAIEZ.

IT'S THAT TIME OF THE EVENING WHERE WE SHOWCASE SOME OF OUR OUTSTANDING STUDENTS AND STAFF AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH DR.

AZAIEZ AND OUR TRUSTEES.

PLEASE JOIN US IN THE FRONT OF THE DAIS.

OUR FIRST RECOGNITION THIS EVENING WE HIGHLIGHT OUR TALENTED DISTRICT MUSICIANS.

54 STUDENTS RECEIVED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF HIGH SCHOOL MUSICIAN CAN ACHIEVE BY EARNING THEIR PLACE IN THE TEXAS MUSIC EDUCATORS ASSOCIATION ALL STAR BAND, ORCHESTRA OR CHOIR.

EACH FALL, MORE THAN 70,000 STUDENTS FROM THROUGHOUT TEXAS AUDITION IN THEIR TMEA REGION, WITH THE HIGHEST RANKING STUDENTS THEN COMPETING AGAINST MUSICIANS FROM OTHER REGIONS IN THEIR TMEA AREA.

THE HIGHEST RANKING PERFORMERS QUALIFY TO PERFORM IN ONE OF 18 TEXAS ALL STAR BANDS, ORCHESTRAS, OR CHOIRS, FIRST FROM CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL WILL DIRECTOR ARMINDA VELASQUEZ, YOUR STUDENTS, PRINCIPAL JONATHAN SMITH, AND AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR.

NANCY GUERRERO. PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PHOTO.

[INAUDIBLE] THE LOVELY ASHLEY IS GOING TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT FROM MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL WILL DIRECTORS JASON DIMICELI AND JUSTIN ANDERSON, YOUR STUDENTS, PRINCIPAL DR.

MACK EAGLETON AND AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR.

MYA MERCER? PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PHOTO.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL WILL DIRECTORS DAVID MOBLEY, JAMISON MCCAFFERTY, AARON KEITH, AND KATHY BENFORD.

YOUR STUDENTS, PRINCIPAL MATT GROFF AND AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR.

LOGAN FERRIS. PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PHOTO.

[INAUDIBLE].

WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTING STONY POINT HIGH SCHOOL, WILL DIRECTOR SPENCER GREGG, RANDY PRESTON, AND ALLISON SOZANSKI.

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ANTHONY WATSON AND AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR.

PATRICIA HEFLIN.

PLEASE COME FOR A PHOTO.

PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PHOTO.

[INAUDIBLE].

YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, WILL DIRECTORS ANDRE CLARK, JOSHUA THOMPSON AND THOMAS TURPIN, YOUR STUDENTS, PRINCIPAL AARON CAMPBELL AND AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR.

ZACH OLDHAM. PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT FOR A PHOTO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT WE HAVE OUR STAFF RECOGNITIONS.

WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL FRENCH TEACHER ANNE PHAM-MANCHARIA HAS BEEN HONORED AS THE TEXAS FOREIGN LANGUAGES ASSOCIATION'S 2023 TEXAS FOREIGN LANGUAGE TEACHER OF THE YEAR.

MISS PHAM-MANCHARIA HAS BEEN TEACHING AT WESTWOOD SINCE 2016, AFTER TEACHING NINE YEARS AT CEDAR VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SHE TEACHES FRENCH 3, FRENCH AP LANGUAGE AND CULTURE, FRENCH IB STANDARD AND HIGH LEVELS, HIGHER LEVELS AND FRENCH FIVE, LEADING THE DEPARTMENT'S CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A PICTURE WITH MISS MANCHARIA, PRINCIPAL AARON CAMPBELL AND THE AREA SUPERINTENDENT OF AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES TONIGHT'S STUDENT AND STAFF RECOGNITIONS.

DR. AZAIEZ AND TRUSTEES, YOU'RE WELCOME TO RETURN TO YOUR SEATS.

WE DO HAVE A VIDEO HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT'S VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION MONTH.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE AMAZING SKILLS OUR STUDENTS ARE LEARNING IN THEIR CTE CLASSES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

CTE STANDS FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION.

IT'S NOT ONLY A STATE PROGRAM, BUT ALSO A FEDERAL PROGRAM, AND IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STUDENTS TO INVESTIGATE AND EXPLORE CAREERS TO DEPTH THAT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, POTENTIALLY A PASSION.

I WANTED TO JOIN BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD, GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO.

YOU LEARN SKILLS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT LEARN UNTIL YOU GRADUATE COLLEGE, TOO.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS JUST GIVES YOU A GOOD WAY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CAREER YOU'RE LOOKING TOWARDS GETTING TO BUILD AND DESIGN STUFF.

THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY OTHER CLASSES THAT YOU GET TO DO THIS TYPE OF STUFF, [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING ON TO WHATEVER POST-SECONDARY OF MILITARY TWO YEAR, FOUR YEAR THAT WHEN THEY GET OUT OF ALL OF THOSE AREAS, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A JOB. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO PREPARE THEM AND SHOW THEM WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

IT'S BEEN REWARDING TO SAY THE LEAST.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN HEALTH CARE AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN ALL THESE THINGS, AND IT CAN FEEL LIKE A LOT, BUT IT REALLY HAS BEEN REWARDING BECAUSE YOU CAN EARN CERTIFICATIONS THAT MAKE YOU MORE COMPETITIVE IN THE JOB FIELD, AND THAT'S REALLY NICE.

IF I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SURE OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.

LEARNED A LOT OF GOOD SKILLS FROM HERE, LIKE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND REMAINING CALM UNDER PRESSURE.

I THINK THEY'RE VERY USEFUL IN GIVING KIDS HANDS ON LEARNING, INSTEAD OF JUST KNOWLEDGE BASED LEARNING AND BEING ABLE TO APPLY SKILLS THAT WE KNOW INTO THE REAL WORLD.

ALL RIGHT.

ACTUALLY, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR GIRLS IN THE ROBOTICS PROGRAM ON THE SECOND AND THE SECOND YEAR AND THIRD YEAR LIKE LEVELS.

SO I JUST LOVE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, MY TEAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BUILD AND CREATE SOMETHING AND MAKE IT COME TO LIFE.

JUST KEEP IT ALIVE. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, IS KEEPING THESE PROGRAMS ALIVE, BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

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THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

I WILL SAY THAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN TAKING TOURS OF CAMPUSES IN THE DISTRICT, HAS PUT EMPHASIS ON THE TOURS, AND LATELY OUR TOURS HAVE ALL BEEN ABOUT CTE AND TRUSTEE ZARATE AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TOURING MCNEIL AND A COUPLE OF OTHER SCHOOLS, BUT JUST SEEING SOME OF THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT OUR SCHOOLS IN THE CTE FIELD. BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THAT COOL STUFF, AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO LOOK ON [INAUDIBLE], BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ONE FROM A WEEK AGO UP.

BUT I KNOW THAT THOSE STUDENTS ALL JUST WENT TO A HUGE COMPETITION AND ARE MOVING THEIR WAY UP.

WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT AT MCNEIL FOR OUR AUTOMOTIVE STUDENTS.

THAT'S GREAT. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE LEFT.

IS JILL FERRIS HERE BEFORE I READ OUR SPEECH? OKAY. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL GO ON TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT F1, LONG RANGE FACILITY, MASTER PLAN AND STRATEGIC

[F. SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS]

AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO NEED THAT, THE CLICKER? CLICKER, PLEASE.

WELL GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES JUST TO UPDATE OUR BOARD ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD. I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST TO UPDATE OUR BOARD ON TWO MAJOR THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

YOU PROBABLY HEARD US TALKING ABOUT IT.

WE STARTED WORKING ON IT.

WE HAD A BIG COMMITTEE, THAT IS COMPOSED OF A LOT OF OUR, DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.

WE HAVE TEACHERS, WE HAVE LEADERS, WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUSINESS PARTNERS.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

WE HAD SEVERAL FULL DAY MEETINGS.

AND I WANT TO ALSO THANK, PRESIDENT LANDRUM FOR ALSO TAKING THE TIME TO SPEND, WHAT, FOUR DAYS SO FAR WITH US.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON IT.

SO I WANT TO UPDATE OUR BOARD ON THAT.

AND SO LET ME START.

ACTUALLY LET'S SEE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLAN FIRST.

ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW.

ALSO IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD A FEW DISCUSSION AROUND THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT THAT WE COMPLETED.

WE ALSO DID THE EDUCATION SPECIFICATION BACK IN THE FALL, AND THAT WAS ADEQUACY STUDIES THAT WAS DONE.

SO WE JUST MET, THE MASTER PLAN FACILITY, THE LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE JUST MET THIS PAST MONDAY FOR THE FIRST MEETING, AND OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH.

HOPEFULLY, WE CAN CONCLUDE OUR MEETINGS IN EARLY APRIL AND THEIR JOB IS TO BE LOOKING MORE IMPORTANTLY ON HOW TO CREATE THIS LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN, RIGHT. FOR OUR DISTRICT.

WE NEVER HAD ONE HERE DONE.

TO ALSO REQUIREMENTS CHANGES CHANGED IN THE WAY THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS SUPPOSED TO HAVE OR MUST HAVE THIS PLAN.

SO WE REACH OUT TO ABOUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ASK THEM, DO YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER? AND TO OUR GREAT SURPRISE, WE HAD NEARLY 300 PEOPLE RESPONDED INITIAL CALL.

AND SO WE SHARE WITH THEM, WE EMAILED THEM BACK AND WE TOLD THEM MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE JOB OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO TO SELECT ABOUT 50 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND THAT INCLUDES ALSO, PARENTS, BUSINESS PARTNERS, STAFF MEMBERS, AND WE START WORKING ON IT.

AS I SAID, OUR FIRST MEETING WAS THIS PAST MONDAY AND THE GOAL AGAIN, TO CONTINUE MEETING TO DEVELOP THIS MASTER PLAN.

HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE, MARCH 6TH.

I'M SORRY, FEBRUARY 28TH, MARCH 6TH, MARCH 25TH AND APRIL 1ST.

THOSE WILL BE THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING.

WE ALSO, PEOPLE SOMETIMES CONFUSE THIS COMMITTEE WITH A BOND COMMITTEE.

THIS IS NOT THE BONE COMMITTEE.

AND WE HAD TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO OUR, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

SO THE JOB OF THIS COMMITTEE IS REALLY TO DEVELOP A LONG RANGE FACILITY MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BE HANDED OVER TO A BOND COMMITTEE IF WE DECIDE TO GO, POSSIBLY TO LOOK INTO POSSIBLE BOND FOR THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE JOB OF THIS COMMITTEE AS FAR AS STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS, AS I SAID, AND THIS IS THE SIX GOALS THAT THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH, WHICH IS COMMUNICATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, DISTRICT AND SCHOOL CULTURE, TEACHING AND LEARNING, STAFF RETENTION, INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITY AND TECHNOLOGY.

SO FAR THOSE ARE THE SIX GOALS.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE FOUR DAY LONG MEETINGS ALREADY, AS I SAID, WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, STUDENTS AND STAFF.

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THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE AGAIN FOR ONE MORE TIME, AND THEN ASK THEM FOR ANOTHER MEETING SO WE CAN REALLY FINALIZE OUR PLAN AND GOALS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DONE SO FAR, AND WE ARE WOULD LIKE TO HOPEFULLY BRING THIS PLAN TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS AS EARLY AS THE MONTH OF MARCH. THAT IS REALLY OUR GOAL, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE MARKUM. THANKS.

YEAH, I WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF WE COULD GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMITTEE, HOW THE COMMITTEE IS MADE UP BY VLC, AND THEN A BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS VERSUS STAFF.

VERSUS STUDENTS.

ABSOLUTELY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LONG RANGE OR.

YEAH. OKAY. SO THE LONG RANGE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THE, ACTUALLY, THE LIST OF THE PARTICIPANTS I KNOW FOR US, WE WORK REALLY HARD TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PARTICIPANTS.

WE LOOKED AT HAVING AN EQUAL NUMBER FROM EVERY VERTICAL LEARNING COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WE LOOKED AT DIVERSITY TOO.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE ALSO REPRESENTATION FROM BESIDES PARENTS, ALSO LIKE, LEADERS, WE HAVE A FEW PRINCIPALS.

SO WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY PRINCIPAL, A MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL AND HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE.

SO WE AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK.

WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CHAMBER.

WE HAD REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FIVE FOUNDATIONS.

SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT VERY AS DIVERSE AS POSSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF OUR DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. I WILL MENTION, TRUSTEES, THAT THE FIVE MEETINGS THAT WERE POSTED THAT ARE ONES ALREADY HAPPENED.

THERE'S FOUR MORE COMING.

TRUSTEES CAN ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, BUT YOU WOULD BE AN OBSERVER ONLY.

AND THIS IS NOT A BOARD LEVEL COMMITTEE.

THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE.

SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND THEM.

BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ATTENDING JUST AS AN OBSERVER.

THIS IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TRUSTEES TO PUT THEIR INPUT INTO THE LONG RANGE, FACILITIES PLAN.

SO, TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS. IS THERE ANY STUDENT ENGAGEMENT? I FOR THE LONG RANGE.

YES. SO WE HAD STUDENTS.

JUST TO RECAP AGAIN, WE HAD STUDENTS ACTUALLY, WORKING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THEY WERE FANTASTIC.

THEY GAVE US A LOT OF GOOD INPUT.

AND AS, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. IT'S DIFFERENT. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ADULT STANDPOINT AND REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR STUDENTS ARE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

RIGHT. SO IT'S REALLY NICE TO HEAR THEIR INPUT.

AS FAR AS THE LONG RANGE FACILITY, WE WILL BE INCLUDING STUDENTS.

THEY ARE NOT SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID INVOLVE THEM WHEN WE WORKED IN OUR EDUCATION SPECIFICATION.

WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE VOICE, OUR STUDENTS VOICE GROUP, AND WE ACTUALLY GET SOME INPUT FROM THEM.

SO THEY'VE BEEN SOME OF THEM BEEN INVOLVED GIVING US SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME INPUT, BUT WE WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THEM AGAIN.

ALSO WITH THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

TRUSTEES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE WEIR. LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE FURIOUSLY TRYING TO PUSH YOUR BUTTONS.

I WASN'T FURIOUSLY, BUT I JUST.

IS IT NOT LIGHTING UP AT ALL? NO. OH, I JUST WANTED TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT MEMBERS OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, OR CPOC, ARE ON THIS? AND YOU MENTIONED CITY OF ROUND ROCK, BUT ARE THERE ANY CITY OF AUSTIN OR TRAVIS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES AT THIS MOMENT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AT THIS MOMENT, WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

BUT WE CAN REACH OUT AGAIN AND SEE IF ANY OF THEM WANT TO WANT TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE.

AS FAR AS CPOC, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, I THINK THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS FROM THE CPOC WHO ACTUALLY SERVE ON THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLAN COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE BUTTONS THAT AREN'T WORKING? ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE IN MARCH ABOUT NEXT STEPS FROM THOSE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT MOVES US TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS G1 BOARD STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS TIME TRACKER FOR JANUARY AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SECRETARY MARKUM.

[G. DISCUSSION ITEMS]

WE HAD TWO MEETINGS IN JANUARY.

OUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD ANY POINTS BECAUSE IT'S A STATUTORILY REQUIRED, WORKSHOP.

SO EVERYTHING COMES FROM OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING AND OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES REPORT, WHICH WAS 73 MINUTES.

SO LOOKING AT OUR TOTAL MINUTES, WE HAD, A PERCENTAGE OF 48.03% OF STUDENT OUTCOME MINUTES.

I SEE OUR LSG COACH GIVING US CHEERLEADING CLAPS IN THE AUDIENCE.

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GOOD JOB! WE ALMOST HIT 50% FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES ABOUT THIS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS 2023-2024 BUDGET UPDATE AND 2024-2025 PROPOSED BUDGET.

TRUSTEE, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

THANK YOU AGAIN. UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, OUR CFO, DENNIS COVINGTON, MR. COVINGTON IS ACTUALLY NOT HERE IN PERSON, BUT, I KNOW THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE, ZOOMING IN I GUESS, SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN CONNECT WITH HIM. HE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT GIVING US SOME UPDATE ABOUT THE 2023-24 BUDGET, AS WELL AS THE, START, THINKING OR TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSING THE 2024-2025 PROPOSED BUDGET SO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. GOOD.

AND RHONDA IS HERE WITH US TOO.

WE WANT TO INTRODUCE RHONDA, SIR.

YES, RHONDA RHODE IS THE, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

SO SHE WILL BE, ADVANCING THE SLIDES.

FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

SO I AM NOT ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON, BUT, I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE ON THE 2023-24 BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE IN PLANNING FOR THE 24-25 BUDGET.

SO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS ON THE 24-25 BUDGET.

AND IT IS AN UPDATE ON THE 23-24 BUDGET.

FIRST, THAT'S THE STARTING SPOT FOR PREPARING THE 24-25 BUDGET.

NOW, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, THIS IS HOW WE PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU ALL IN BROAD CATEGORIES.

SO I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES.

SO IF WE START WITH THE CHANGE AT THE TOP IN THE YELLOW.

YOU SEE, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET BACK IN JUNE, WE HAD A TAX RATE OF 0.8084.

BUT WHEN WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO AMEND THE BUDGET DUE TO, WE HAD TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CHANGE IN THE MAXIMUM COMPRESS RATE BY THE CHANGE IN THE, WELL, AS FAR AS THE.

TAX RATE IS JUST A CHANGE FOR THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE THAT CHANGED THAT NUMBER FROM THE .8084 TO THE .7210, BUT THAT AFFECTS YOUR CURRENT TAX COLLECTION PROJECTION.

AND ALONG WITH THE CHANGE IN THE TAX RATE, THERE WAS ALSO A CHANGE IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM 40,000 TO 100,000.

SO THAT ALSO AFFECTS YOUR OUR PROJECTED REVENUE.

AND ALSO THERE WAS A, OVER 65 FREEZE EXEMPTION THAT WAS, VOTED ON BY THE LEGISLATURE AND PUT IN PLACE.

SO THAT CHANGED, OUR TOTAL PROJECTED, TAXES COLLECTION FROM THE 400,000 DOWN TO THE 384,000.

THE NEXT CHANGE I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

IS THE OTHER LOCAL REVENUE? THAT CHANGE IS DUE TO, OUR INSURANCE RECOVERY AND FOR SOME SURPLUS SALES.

THE NEXT CHANGE IS OUR STATE REVENUE AND THE MAJOR CHANGE IN OUR STATE REVENUE IS DUE TO THE INCREASE FOR THAT WHOLE HARMLESS EXEMPTION FOR THE RAISE OF THE $100,000 FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THE FREEZE FOR THE 65 AND OVER.

ON THIS PAGE, THERE WAS REALLY NO CHANGE.

AS YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, ALL WE DID WAS, COMBINE ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE LEFT TO MEET THE TOTAL NUMBER ON THE RIGHT.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE TEACHER RETIREMENT.

THERE WAS NO CHANGE THERE.

SO I TOTAL SALARIES AND EXPENSES.

I STAYED AT THE 14,381.

ON THIS NEXT PAGE THERE WAS REALLY NO CHANGES THERE.

EXCEPT FOR WHEN YOU GET TO THE VERY BOTTOM.

YOU SEE OUR RECAPTURE AND DUE TO THE MAXIMUM COMPRESS RATE AND THE CHANGE THAT CREATED A LESS REVENUE FROM OUR TAX COLLECTION, OUR RECAPTURE HAS CHANGED FROM 77 MILLION DOWN TO 11 MILLION.

SO MOVING ON TO THIS PAGE.

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SO TO THE FIRST SURPLUS DEFICIT BUDGET IT WENT DOWN TO 3,000,456.

THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INCREASE WE HAVE ALLOCATED OUT UP AT THE TOP.

AND SO WE'VE COVERED THE INCREASE THAT WAS, DUE TO THE MEDICAL INSURANCE.

AND THAT WOULD BE, MOVED FROM FUND BALANCE.

WE'VE COVERED THAT COST ALREADY.

AND THEN WE, PUT IN THE VATRE.

OUR VATRE ACTUAL COST WAS 13.7, STILL AT 12.66, WHICH WAS THE ACTUAL, COST FOR THE 3%, INCLUDING BENEFITS.

AND SO THE SURPLUS DEFICIT HAS GONE DOWN.

FROM 19.9 MILLION DOWN TO 17.1 MILLION GOING FORWARD.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS OTHER PROJECTED BUDGET SURPLUS ITEMS. AT THIS MOMENT, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $4.5 MILLION IN LAPSED SALARIES.

THERE'S ABOUT $1 MILLION IN DEPARTMENT SAVINGS.

SUMMER SCHOOL COSTS WILL GO DOWN BY 450,000.

AND DUE TO A MILD WINTER THUS FAR, WE'RE PROJECTING SAVINGS IN UTILITIES OF ABOUT 200,000.

AND AS OF, THIS PRESENTATION, WE ALSO WE PROJECT A SURPLUS OF 6,150,000, WHICH WOULD LOWER OUR DEFICIT. FROM 17 MILLION DOWN TO ABOUT 11 MILLION.

I'LL STOP THERE AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE TO THE 23-24 BUDGET.

TRUSTEE BONE. YEAH.

CAN YOU JUST GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ON THE SUMMER SCHOOL SAVINGS ON SLIDE EIGHT? CAN YOU JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID AND THEN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH? WE HAD, 1,000,005 BUDGETED FOR SUMMER SCHOOL, WHICH HAD BEEN THE COST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT THE PROJECTED COST FOR THIS SUMMER, WHICH WOULD BE LAST JULY AND THIS JUNE, IS ROUGHLY, 1,000,050. DUE TO SOME CHANGES AND WE HAVE GROUPED SCHOOLS TOGETHER, WHICH SAVE US ON UTILITIES AND SAVE US ON TRANSPORTATION. AND SO WE ARE PROJECTING THE TOTAL COST TO BE, LESS THAN 450,000 FOR SUMMER SCHOOL.

SO IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE DECREASING SUMMER SCHOOL OFFERING JUST? NO AND I'LL CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.

WE STILL HAD ESSER FUNDS LAST YEAR.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM AS A SUMMER OF 23 SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM, PART OF THAT'S IN JUNE, WHICH HITS THE FY FISCAL YEAR 23, AND PART OF IT HITS FY 24, THE JULY PORTION.

SO THE JULY PORTION WAS PAID MAINLY BY ESSER FUNDS.

THANK YOU. SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION MYSELF.

WITH OUR NOW PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR THIS CURRENT BUDGET SITTING AROUND 11 MILLION, WEREN'T WE, WHEN WE PASSED THIS BUDGET LAST JUNE, LOOKING AT A DEFICIT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20 TO 24 MILLION? IS THAT WHAT I'M REMEMBERING? WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE BUDGET, IT WAS THE 19 MILLION.

IT WAS 19. OKAY.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, PROJECTED IMPACT BACK WHEN WE WERE SETTING THE TAX RATE, IT WAS 24.

OKAY. SO THAT PROPOSED ONE, THE ADOPTED BUDGET IS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PASSED WAS 19.9.

CORRECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

SO WE CAN GO ON TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THANK YOU. SO FOR THE 24-25 PROPOSED BUDGET.

FIRST, WE'LL START WITH WHAT OUR BUDGETARY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WOULD BE TO, DEVELOP THE 24-25 BUDGET.

SO THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AS WE SEE AS WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON INSTRUCTION.

THERE'S A PLAN TO INCREASE PRE-K THREE AND PRE-K FOUR.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON SCHOOL SAFETY.

WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE 23-24 EXPENDITURES.

AND ABOVE ALL, WE WANT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

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SO THE FIRST CHART IS ON YOUR REVENUE ANALYSIS DATING BACK TO THE 2018-19 YEAR, COMPARED TO THE 23-24 ESTIMATES AS OF THIS TIME. AND SO BACK IN 2019, FOR REVENUES THAT WE GET FROM TAX COLLECTIONS AND FROM THE STATE AND MINUS THE RECAPTURE, WE HAD $385.099 MILLION.

IF YOU SEE THE 22-23 SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAD ONLY $368,186,000.

WE HAD LESS REVENUE AVAILABLE TO THE DISTRICT THAN WE HAD IN 2018-19 SCHOOL YEAR.

NOW, THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

PROJECTED TO THE $404,661 MILLION.

THIS JUST SHOWS HOW THE EFFECT OF RECAPTURE.

THE TAX RATE AND PROPERTY VALUES AFFECT THE DISTRICT'S AVAILABLE REVENUE.

NEXT SLIDE. ANOTHER PIECE THAT AFFECTS THE REVENUE IS OUR ENROLLMENT ANALYSIS AND THE ADA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2018-19, OUR PROJECTED ENROLLMENT WAS 49,000.

WE CAME IN AT 50,000.

WE HAD A 94.4% ADA, WHICH WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING ON 47,589 KIDS.

AND OVER THE YEARS, YOU SEE THE EFFECT OF THE ENROLLMENT GOING DOWN.

TO THE 22-23 SCHOOL YEAR, IT WAS 46,680 WITH A 92% ADA.

BUT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WOULD ENROLL.

ACTUAL ENROLLMENT IS 46,693 AS OF THE 2/6/24 DATE, AND OUR ADA HAS TICKED UP TO 94.2%. AND AS YOU KNOW, EVERY PERCENTAGE POINT IN THE ADA IS ROUGHLY $3.5 MILLION.

THAT THE DISTRICT GETS TO KEEP.

WHAT ARE FACTORS AFFECTING THE BUDGET? THESE ARE THE UNKNOWN FACTORS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO GET, BETTER PROJECTIONS ON IN ORDER TO START FORMULATING THE BUDGET, TO BEGIN TO PUT IN THE SPREADSHEET WHERE WE CAN GIVE YOU ALL A PRELIMINARY BUDGET.

AND THERE ARE SOME MAJOR UNKNOWN FACTORS IN PREPARING THAT BUDGET.

THE, MAXIMUM COMPRESSION RATE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT IS SET BY THE STATE.

WE'VE HEARD THAT IT'S GOING TO DROP AGAIN.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE YET, BUT, SOMEWHERE ABOUT TO ABOUT, 0.61 OR 0.60.

THERE'S STILL SOME TALK AROUND THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION BEFORE THE ELECTION.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR OR IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THE EFFECT OF THE WHOLE HARMLESS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THERE ARE SOME, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THAT IS BEING CALCULATED AS TO THE EFFECT OF THE DISTRICT.

HOW MUCH WOULD OUR PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE? STUDENT ENROLLMENT. WE HAVE TALKED TO THE DEMOGRAPHER.

HE'S PROJECTING A FLAT STUDENT ENROLLMENT, BUT WE JUST NEED TO FINALIZE THAT NUMBER.

AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

WE'RE HOPING TO MONITOR THAT AS WE GO FORWARD THROUGH THIS YEAR.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAINTAIN THE 94 OR ABOVE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.

THERE ARE SOME CHARTER SCHOOL GROWTH IN THE AREA.

HOME SCHOOL GROWTH.

AND TALKING TO OUR DEMOGRAPHER.

WE WILL PROBABLY SEE SOME HOME SCHOOL GROWTH IN THE EARLY YEARS, K2.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL YEARS AS, PARENTS, WANT TO GET THEIR KIDS MORE INVOLVED IN THE EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

AND THESE ARE COMMENTS COMING FROM OUR DEMOGRAPHERS OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL SHOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN STUDENTS.

WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SEE A UTILITY RATE INCREASE.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THE, HAILSTORM AND THE, DAMAGES THAT IT CAUSED, I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT INSURANCE PREMIUM INCREASE.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, INSURANCE COMPANIES DO NOT LOSE MONEY.

SO IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR CLAIM, YOU CAN GUARANTEE YOUR PREMIUMS THE NEXT YEAR ARE GOING TO INCREASE.

GAS PRICES ARE ON THE RISE.

INFLATIONARY PRICES, WE STILL DON'T KNOW.

AND THERE IS A SHARS CALCULATION CHANGE THAT IS GOING TO BE IN EFFECT FOR WHEN WE FORMULATE THE BUDGET, FOR THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR.

WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TO HOPEFULLY REDUCE EXPENSES FROM THE 23-24 BUDGET SO WE CAN PREPARE THE

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ARE WE GOING TO REDUCE CENTRAL OFFICE POSITIONS? REDUCE CENTRAL OFFICE SCHOOL SUPPORT POSITIONS? THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION IN THE ALLOCATIONS DUE TO THE ENROLLMENT DECLINE.

INCREASE IN CLASS SIZE FORMULAS AT THE THREE LEVELS.

REDUCE SCHOOL LEVEL SUPPORT POSITIONS.

REDUCE THE SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS CONSIDERATIONS.

NONE OF THIS IS, FINALIZED OR SAYING WE WILL DO.

THERE WILL BE SOME, SURVEY DONE WHEN WE, GET THE MENU READY TO BE SENT OUT SO WE CAN GET SOME INPUT ON THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO DECREASE THE 23-24 BUDGET GOING INTO THE 24-25 BUDGET.

WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? WE HAVE TO CALCULATE THE COST ON THE REDUCTIONS CONSIDERATIONS, AND THEN WE DEVELOP AND DEPLOY COMMUNITY SURVEY ON THOSE REDUCTION CONSIDERATIONS AND MEET WITH THE DEMOGRAPHER TO FINALIZE THIS ENROLLMENT PROJECTION, RECEIVE OUR PRELIMINARY PROPERTY VALUES FROM THE CAD.

RECEIVE OUR MAXIMUM COMPRESSION RATE FROM TEA.

THEN WE'LL DEVELOP THE 24-25 PRELIMINARY BUDGET ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE DATA POINTS.

WILL HOLD A BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH THE BOT SHOWING THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND WITH TASB TO DO THE COMPENSATION.

YOU ADOPT THE COMPENSATION PLAN IN THE 24-25 THAT WILL BE IN THE APRIL TIME FRAME.

HOLD ANOTHER BUDGET WORKSHOP WHERE WE UPDATE THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S BUDGET TO YOU GUYS IN MAY.

WHOLE BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND HAVE YOU ALL ADOPT THE 24-25 BUDGET IN JUNE.

I'LL STOP THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU. YOU ANSWERED ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, AND THAT WAS WHAT KIND OF INPUT WILL WE BE GETTING? FROM THE COMMUNITY AROUND POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS TO DECREASE THE BUDGET? I HAVE TO SAY I WAS HOLDING MY BREATH ON THIS.

IT'S JUST A TOUGH TIME IN EDUCATION, AND I'M WATCHING OTHER DISTRICTS ALREADY CUT STAFF.

SO I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY AND SEEING, LIKE, REDUCING CENTRAL OFFICE POSITIONS.

I KNOW THAT'S HARD.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S MORE COMMENTARY.

I KNOW WE'RE IN A TOUGH SITUATION.

I KNOW THIS WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.

I'M GRATEFUL, AS AN EDUCATOR THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T SEE ON THIS LIST THAT I KNOW OTHER DISTRICTS ARE CONSIDERING.

SO I KNOW THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I.

MR. COVINGTON, I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME THAT YOU AND I SPENT ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY.

MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT AGENDA ITEM H2 THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

BUT WE DID KIND OF TOUCH ON THIS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

IF WE GO TO SLIDE 12.

NO, I'M SORRY, WHY DO YOU HAVE SLIDE 12? OKAY. WELL, IT WAS THE ONE WHERE WE SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECT OF DECLINING ENROLLMENT.

I GUESS I WROTE DOWN THE WRONG.

IS IT 14? 14? OKAY.

SO. WELL, THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT.

OH NO, IT WAS SLIDE 13, WHERE YOU MENTIONED THE AVAILABLE REVENUE IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN.

YES, MA'AM. YOU POINTED OUT THE 2019 385 MILLION AND THEN 2023, 368.

WELL, WE DO KNOW THAT OUR FUNDING IS DIRECTLY TIED TO ENROLLMENT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. ENROLLMENT AND ADA.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE LOSS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A DECLINE IN REVENUE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S WHY.

SO SOMEBODY IS WATCHING AND WONDERING WHY THEY SEE THAT SHARP DECLINE.

IT'S BECAUSE OF DECLINING ENROLLMENT, AM I WRONG? YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT'S WHY THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT.

SO WE CAN EXPLAIN THE DECLINE IN REVENUE.

RIGHT. SO AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES AND I YOU KNOW, I WON'T GO OVER IT IN DETAIL AGAIN TONIGHT, BUT UNLESS AND UNTIL THIS SCHOOL BOARD MEANINGFULLY ADDRESSES THE DECLINING ENROLLMENT, WHICH DESPITE MY PLEADING TO DO SO, THE BOARD REFUSES TO DO SO UNLESS AND UNTIL THAT, CRITICAL INDICATOR IS ADDRESSED. THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SLIDE 18, WHICH IS THESE, POSSIBLE CUTS.

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AND, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE A NUMBER THAT'S MOVABLE IF IT'S A STRATEGIC PRIORITY.

I'VE NOT HEARD THAT BE A STRATEGIC PRIORITY AT THIS DAIS.

BUT SLIDE 18.

YEAH. WHEN YOU HAVE DECLINING ENROLLMENT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE ENROLLMENT.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

THAT ENROLLMENT NUMBER DRIVES ALL OF THESE THINGS.

SO AS I SAID, UNLESS AND UNTIL THE SCHOOL BOARD ADDRESSES IN A MEANINGFUL, HONEST WAY, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF REFLECTION, SELF REFLECTION, THE CUTS ARE PROBABLY ON THE HORIZON.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS CUTTING OR CONSIDERING CUTTING.

ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT I SEE TONIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT.

TRUSTEE WESTON, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

OKAY, SO I DON'T GET TO SHARE MY CONCERNS ABOUT CUTS ANYMORE.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES PER DISCUSSION ITEM.

OKAY, THAT'S A YES OR NO? I DON'T GET TO SHARE MY CONCERNS ABOUT.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SO YOU'VE USED YOUR TWO MINUTES.

SO YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF? NO, I'M FOLLOWING BOARD POLICY.

TRUSTEE BONE. OKAY, SO YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF.

I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST HARD TO HEAR DOWN HERE BECAUSE OF THE AUDIENCE.

DID YOU CALL MY NAME? OKAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POSSIBLE REDUCTIONS.

CAN YOU KIND OF GO OVER A GENERAL IDEA, OR IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE AMOUNT OF REDUCTIONS? I KNOW YOU SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO A BALANCED BUDGET.

SO THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, IT'LL BE ABOUT $11 MILLION DEFICIT.

SO ARE WE LOOKING AT MAKING APPROXIMATELY $11 MILLION WORTH OF REDUCTIONS NEXT YEAR? DO WE HAVE A BALLPARK? SO, DENNIS, I WILL LET YOU SPEAK AFTER I'M DONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO. YES. SO $11 MILLION.

I MEAN, DR. BONE WILL BE, A MINIMUM, RIGHT? BUT IF WE WANT TO GIVE A RAISE TO OUR STAFF, WHICH IS TO STAY COMPETITIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, WE MAY END UP.

WE MAY NEED TO DO A RAISE.

ALSO, TO KEEP UP, AT LEAST WITH INFLATION, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE INFLATION GOING ON RIGHT IN OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY.

SO EVERY 1% RAISE WILL BE EQUIVALENT OF $4 MILLION.

SO LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY WE DECIDE TO GIVE 2%.

THAT'S 80, I'M SORRY, $8 MILLION.

WE HAVE TO ALSO FUND FOR BESIDES BALANCING THE BUDGET WITH 11 MILLION.

SO THAT MIGHT BE IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WANT US TO DO, THAT MIGHT BE LIKE $19 MILLION INSTEAD OF 11.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

I'M JUST GIVING ALL THE INFORMATION TO OUR BOARD SO THEY CAN LOOK AT ALL THIS INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHAT I APPRECIATE THAT JUST SO WE HAVE A BALLPARK OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE.

AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT, WHICH I THINK WAS ON SLIDE 14.

I KNOW THIS YEAR YOU DID OPEN ENROLLMENT.

I KNOW THERE IS A PRE-K THREE, FOUR.

THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR GOALS.

CAN YOU KIND OF GO OVER, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT TRUSTEE WESTON TALKED ABOUT? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT FOR A WHILE.

CAN YOU GO OVER, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ON ENROLLMENT AND IS THERE A PLAN TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN OPEN ENROLLMENT? BECAUSE AND MAYBE GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE OPEN ENROLLMENT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING REALLY TO THE DISTRICT.

OR MAYBE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? SURE. SO WE I THINK I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER FOR ME.

I KNOW THERE WERE, MAYBE CLOSE TO 200 STUDENTS WHO WERE, CAME TO OUR DISTRICT OUT OF, OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, AS A DISTRICT, WE ALSO ARE REFLECTING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY HOW WE CAN, TALK WITH OUR, OUR PARENTS AND STUDENTS AND TRY TO RECAPTURE IF YOU GO IN THE HISTORICAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TEA HISTORICAL TRANSFER, LIKE OUT OF OUR DISTRICT, IT'S IT'S ONLY LIKE A FEW HUNDRED KIDS FROM ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER. AND I THINK PART OF IT OBVIOUSLY WE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF SELF REFLECTION AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT WE ALSO CANNOT IGNORE THERE ARE FEW THINGS ALSO.

ONE OF THEM IS DECLINE IN BIRTH RATE AND DON'T HEAR MUCH FROM ME THE COMMISSIONER HIMSELF TALKED ABOUT THAT.

AND AS A STATE WE ARE SEEING A DECLINE LIKE IN NEW BIRTH.

RIGHT, AND THEN AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE DEMOGRAPHER REPORT AND WE'RE ABOUT TO PUBLISH THE LATEST ONE, WHICH IS THE THIRD QUARTER FROM THE 20 LAST YEAR. YOU CAN SEE ALSO HOW MANY HOMES ARE BEING BUILT HERE IN ROUND ROCK ISD WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALSO A DECLINE.

WE'RE NOT LIKE A FAST GROWING WHERE WE ARE NOT SEEING A LOT OF GROWTH AT LEAST THE LAST TWO YEARS OR THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS.

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SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALSO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE ONLY THING, BUT THERE IS ALSO OTHER FACTORS.

ONE IS BEING, AGAIN A DECLINING BIRTH RATE AS WELL AS WE SEEING FEWER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

YEAH. CAN I ASK ABOUT THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS BOARD.

BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING I VOTED AGAINST.

BUT JUST A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, AND I THINK IT WAS TRUSTEE MARKUM ACTUALLY MADE THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO PLAN FOR THIS GROWTH.

SO YOU GUYS WERE ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, PURCHASING PROPERTY TO BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY.

SO CAN I'M CONFLICTED ON YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE DECLINING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY.

WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE BUILDING AN ELEMENTARY AS YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING LAND, WE IT SOMETIMES SCHOOL DISTRICTS, INCLUDING OUR DISTRICT PURCHASE LANDS WAY IN ADVANCE, LIKE SOMETIMES EVEN TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT LAND OR THAT THE SURROUNDING AREAS BECOME LIKE, FULLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FIRST YOU WANT TO GET THAT ACCESS TO THAT LAND RIGHT ON TIME.

AND ALSO HOPEFULLY IT'S A PRICE THAT IS REASONABLE AS WELL.

SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PLAN FIVE, TEN, SOMETIMES EVEN 15 YEARS IN ADVANCE.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD TOMORROW ON IT.

IT'S JUST WE CAN KEEP IT THERE WHENEVER THAT LAND IS NOW A PURCHASE.

I HAVE TO INTERRUPT.

WE ARE GETTING WAY OFF TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING LAND AND, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS BUDGET SCHEDULED TO PURCHASE LAND.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT AND HOW IT AFFECTS, BUT WE ARE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT LAND PURCHASES.

SORRY, I HAVE TO KEEP US ON TRACK HERE.

YEAH. NO, BUT MY QUESTION IS THE MESSAGING IS THAT I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IS AROUND ENROLLMENT WE'RE MESSAGING THAT THERE'S DECLINING BIRTH RATE.

BUT WE'RE ALSO MESSAGING A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO THAT WE'RE HAVING INCREASING BIRTH RATE AND WE HAVE INCREASING AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE NEW SCHOOLS.

SO THE SPECIFIC QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS ENROLLMENT? AND IS THIS BOARD GOING TO DO MEANINGFUL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION GOING TO DO MEANINGFUL.

YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE ENROLLMENT.

I MEAN, IT JUST KEEPS DECLINING SINCE MOST OF YOU WERE ELECTED ON THIS BOARD, SO.

ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP ABOUT 20 STUDENTS FROM LAST YEAR, BUT I YEAH, BUT IT'S DOWN WHAT, FIVE, 4000, 5000 STUDENTS SINCE 2018-19. AND WE HAVE ELEMENTARY SETTING HALF EMPTY.

SO AND WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING, YOU KNOW, REDUCTIONS IN OUR BUDGET AND OUR WORKFORCE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE WE ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT BRINGING STUDENTS BACK.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

THANK YOU. POINT OF ORDER.

I GUESS IT'S ACTUALLY A POINT OF INQUIRY.

I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE TIMING IS BEING DONE, JUST LIKE IT HAS IN EVERY MEETING.

YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION.

WHEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

YOU ASKED A QUESTION, I'M GOING TO ANSWER IT.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP, YOU CAN ASK ON THE POINT OF INQUIRY, BUT YOU ASKED HOW IT'S BEING TIMED.

WHENEVER YOU ARE SPEAKING, THE TIMER IS BEING RUN.

WHEN YOU STOP, ADMINISTRATION STARTS ANSWERING.

YOUR TIME STOPS AND SO YOUR CLOCK RUNS.

WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING ACCORDING TO BOARD POLICY, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES ON A DISCUSSION ITEM.

SO MY QUESTION IS I WAS BEING INTERRUPTED AND LIKE WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND.

THAT YOU'RE STARTING AND STOPPING.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I STOP WHEN IF IT'S IF YOU'RE ENGAGING BACK AND FORTH.

I JUST NEED THAT. I NEED THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE MARKUM.

THANKS. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WHAT DR.

AZAIEZ SAID, THAT TEA HAS STATED THERE WOULD BE A TEN YEAR DECLINE, LIKE A STEADY TEN YEAR DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT UP THROUGH 2025.

SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT STATEWIDE IN OUR DISTRICT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OUTLIER THERE, MOST LIKELY.

AND THAT HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE LOWER BIRTH RATES.

AND THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR LOWER ENROLLMENT.

BUT TO ALSO SAID THAT OUR GROWTH RATE IS BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC RATES.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE OF THOSE LOWER BIRTH RATES TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO THINGS TO MARRY.

SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY REASONS PARENTS HAVE ALWAYS HAD CHOICE AND HAVE LEFT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

AND YES, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW THOSE, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THOSE STUDENTS EITHER.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT AND PUT THAT OUT THERE.

MY QUESTIONS ARE ON THE POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS TO DECREASE THE BUDGET.

SLIDE 18, WHERE IT SAYS, AND I ASSUME THESE WILL BE FLESHED OUT ONCE WE HAVE THE I THINK, MR. COVINGTON CALLED IT THE MENU.

BUT THE SURVEY TO GET FEEDBACK, REDUCE SCHOOL LEVEL SUPPORT POSITIONS AND ADJUST TRANSPORTATION DELIVERY MODEL.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF Y'ALL ARE ABLE, AT THIS POINT TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE TWO REDUCTIONS.

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SHE'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD LOOK INTO IS WHEN IT COMES TO ROUTING, IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT INSTEAD OF HAVING, FOR EXAMPLE, TWO BUSSES, TWO BUS DRIVERS MAYBE HAVE ONE, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE 100 STUDENTS ON THE BUS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT TRYING HOW CAN WE MAKE IT EVEN MORE EFFICIENT WITH ROUTING? AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAYBE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BUSSES ON THE ROAD AND THUS ALSO LESS GAS, LESS, PAYING FOR LESS DRIVERS ON THE ROAD.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE JUST TO BE EVEN MORE EFFICIENT THAN WHAT WE WERE IN THE PAST.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS SUPPORT, WHICH SUPPORT STAFF SUPPORT LEVEL, THE SCHOOL LEVEL SUPPORT POSITIONS.

WHAT CAN YOU EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THAT SO WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT END UP DOING.

AND MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULD THINK, HEY, ARE YOU TRYING TO GET MY POSITION? SO I FEEL LIKE I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE WE MAY NOT EVEN DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, STRESS OUT OUR SOME OF OUR SUPPORT STAFF IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

NO. THAT'S FINE. I WHEN THE SURVEY GOES OUT AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK ON THIS, WILL THAT BE CLEAR? I MEAN, I JUST WANT US TO GET REALLY MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THOSE THINGS IS REALLY CLEAR OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL BE OF COURSE, WILL BE MORE CLEAR.

AND ALSO WE'LL PUT AN AMOUNT OF MONEY, LIKE IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WOULD BE THE SAVING IF WE DO THIS? TRANSPORTATION WON'T BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, HALF $1 MILLION, $1 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT'D BE.

SO FOLKS WILL SEE EXACTLY WHAT SAVING THE AMOUNT OF SAVING, I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. THANKS. TRUSTEE.

WEIR. THANK YOU.

SO, MR. COVINGTON, YOU HAD QUITE A LIST ON PAGE 16 OF UNKNOWN FACTORS.

AND I KNOW ON SLIDE 20 YOU HAVE NEXT STEPS, BUT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY UNKNOWN FACTORS ON 16 AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY ALL ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT STEPS. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WHAT OUR TIMETABLE IS FOR TRYING TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.

AND DO WE HONESTLY THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN TIME? YES. THE BUDGET CALENDAR THAT YOU ALL HAD BEFORE.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE MOVED ONE MEETING, BUT WE WILL STICK TO THE SCHEDULE FOR THE REST OF THOSE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS.

AND TO BRING THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET TO YOU GUYS AS, HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCHEDULE.

GOOD LUCK. SO I HAVE ANOTHER LIGHT ON, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY ON SLIDE 11, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE BALANCED BUDGET IN VERY LARGE BLOCK LETTERS.

I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

YEAH. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TO DIP INTO YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

AND I THINK WE WERE VERY HOPEFUL WHEN WE PASSED LAST YEAR'S BUDGET THAT THINGS WOULD WORK OUT DIFFERENTLY.

AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE AND THAT DIDN'T.

AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS.

AND SO, WHILE THERE ARE SOME VERY DIFFICULT THINGS ON SLIDE 16 OR WHATEVER IT IS WITH THE, SLIDE.

YEAH. SLIDE 18. ON THE CONSIDERATIONS, I THINK OUR TOPMOST CONSIDERATION IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO NOT LET STAFF GO TO ANY OF THESE THAT, SAY, REDUCE POSITIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY ELIMINATING THEM BY ATTRITION.

IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, START TALKING ABOUT THIS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO AGAIN, ALARM OUR STAFF MEMBERS, IT'S NOT A NOBODY WILL LOSE HIS OR HER JOB NO MATTER WHAT.

IF ANYTHING, IF WE HAVE TO DECIDE TO CHANGE ANYTHING, WE'LL BE THROUGH ATTRITION.

AND WE JUST.

WHEN THE POSITION BECOMES OPEN, I GUESS WE JUST CLOSE THE POSITION NOT THE PERSON WHO WAS IN THAT POSITION.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN, I WILL BE LOOKING AT EAGERLY AT HOW EACH ONE OF THESE ARE GOING TO FLUSH OUT.

AND I'M AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE REITERATE WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID THAT I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THAT BECAUSE WE ARE STEWARDS OF THEIR TAX MONEY. AND SO LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, ACCORDING TO THEIR PRIORITIES AS WELL.

SO I JUST APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN FROM THIS DISCUSSION IS I DON'T WANT TO STIR UP A BUNCH OF FEAR IN OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A HIGH COMMITMENT TO THE STAFF AND THE STUDENTS IN THIS DISTRICT, AND WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

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SO, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TRUSTEE WESTON. YOU HAVE ALREADY USED YOUR TWO MINUTES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

DID YOU HAVE A POINT OF ORDER? I DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YOU'VE USED YOUR TIME LIMIT.

THAT'S DISAPPOINTING.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

TRUSTEE ZARATE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE, I THINK THAT DIDN'T USE THEIR TWO MINUTES.

YOU'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS.

OKAY. WE ARE ON TO ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT BEFORE I GET A MOTION.

[H. ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT]

SO I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FOR VOTING ON H ONE THROUGH FIVE AND THEN VOTING ON H SIX.

SHE DID NOT ASK TO PULL IT.

SHE JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE DIFFERENTLY ON H6.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR.

SHE DID IT IN THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF TIME.

I MOVE THE BOARD, APPROVE ITEMS H ONE THROUGH FIVE BY CONSENT.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS H ONE THROUGH FIVE BY CONSENT.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OH, NOPE. SORRY.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

THANK YOU. SO, AS I SAID EARLIER IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, MR. COVINGTON AND I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT THESE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ON H2, AND I FIND IT CURIOUS THAT APPARENTLY I WAS THE ONLY TRUSTEE THAT HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE, BECAUSE ON PAGE EIGHT OF THE 11 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT LAST THAT THE APPROVED BUDGET IN JUNE OF 2023, THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD A APPROVED A BUDGET OF $4 MILLION DEFICIT.

THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT.

IT WAS A $19 MILLION DEFICIT.

SO GIVEN THAT AND THEN IT SHOWED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A REDUCTION OF THAT BUDGET OR NO, THE SLIDE ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS H TWO TONIGHT, THAT THE BUDGET WILL GO FROM A $4 MILLION DEFICIT TO A $17 MILLION DEFICIT.

THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT.

SO I CANNOT VOTE YES ON THIS CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE OF THAT MEANINGFUL ERROR THAT EXISTS ON THE DOCUMENT ATTACHED TO H2.

TRUSTEE BONE.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP.

IT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

IT'S THE ATTACHMENT, FOR THE AMENDED BUDGET.

AND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ERROR WHICH I HAD ALSO CAUGHT WITH THE APPROVED BUDGET.

AND FOR THAT REASON.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION AND PULL THIS ITEM OFF, AND I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY AND ASK FOR IT TO BE CORRECTED.

PRESIDENT LANDRUM, CAN I SPEAK, PLEASE, OR CAN WE AMEND IT? PRESIDENT LANDRUM YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION.

CAN WE AMEND THE DOC? CAN WE SAY WE WANT TO? THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO LET MR. COVINGTON SPEAK.

OKAY. GO AHEAD, MR. COVINGTON. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WHEN WE ADOPT A BUDGET, WE HAVE TO PUT WITHIN EACH OF THE, FUNCTION CODES WHERE WE EXPECT TO SPEND THE DOLLARS.

SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION ON THE, BUDGET AND TO AMEND THE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE WAS A $3 MILLION, FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATION AND I MEAN, $3 MILLION FOR FUND BALANCE FOR OUR HEALTH.

AND THERE WAS A, APPROPRIATION FOR IF THE VATRE PASSED, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PUT THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE APPROPRIATE CATEGORIES FOR YOU ALL TO ADOPT.

SO IT'S NOT AN ERROR.

IT WAS JUST THAT WE CANNOT PUT THOSE DOLLARS INTO THOSE CATEGORIES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW OR IF THEY WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.

SO THAT'S WHY THE APPROVED BUDGET, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WAS 4 MILLION BEFORE THE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE PUT INTO THOSE PROPER CATEGORY CODES.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I JUST I HAVE A QUESTION ON MY COLLEAGUES.

IF THAT WAS A CONCERN, WHY WAS THAT NOT FLAGGED FOR STAFF AHEAD OF TIME? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET OUR QUESTIONS IN.

THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION PORTION.

WE ARE IN THE CONSENT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION I DID.

I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ELABORATE BECAUSE I DID.

YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TIME THAT YOU CAN SPEAK AND YOU'RE ALLOTTED TIMES BUT WE'RE THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ITEM.

IT'S FOR CONSENT.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

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ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING. MOTION CARRIES 5-1-1.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM H6.

I MOVE THE BOARD.

APPROVE H6 BY CONSENT.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TRUSTEE WESTON.

YES. SO MY CONCERNS REMAIN ABOUT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

THE 2018 BOND ACTUALLY DID NOT, APPROVE OR ALLOCATE THE $30 MILLION PLUS REQUIRED TO BUILD EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT INCLUDED, $15 MILLION FOR SOME PRELIMINARY LAND PURCHASE.

AND SO I CANNOT JUST LIKE MY VOTE LAST FALL, FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, THIS IS, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FACILITY.

IT SHOULD, IN MY VIEW, IT SHOULD GO OUT TO THE VOTERS FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, WHETHER OR NOT TO SPEND $33 MILLION ON A NEW FACILITY FOR 400 STUDENTS.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS BOARD MAJORITY BELIEVES THAT SUCH A BOND REFERENDUM WOULD NOT PASS, AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE GOING ABOUT IT IN THIS MANNER, WHICH I DO NOT AGREE WITH.

THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING, NO.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? TRUSTEE HARRISON I'M MOVE TO CALL THE QUESTION.

SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION, WHICH MEANS I DON'T GET TO SPEAK.

ALL IN FAVOR OF CALLING THE QUESTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5-2.

A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM H6.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING. MOTION CARRIES 5-1-1.

WE ARE ON TO AGENDA ITEM I1.

I HAVE A POINT OF INQUIRY.

MADAM PRESIDENT, ARE TRUSTEES ACTUALLY PRESENTING IN THESE TWO ACTION ITEMS? BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE'VE.

YOUR TIME DOES NOT COUNT WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTING.

DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THOUGH? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAD DECIDED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT YOUR TIME STARTS WHEN QUESTION AND DISCUSSION HAPPENS.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. DURING DELIBERATION, THE TIME LIMITS ARE, BUT NOT DURING PRESENTATION.

WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO WE DO HAVE OUR LSG COACH HERE DR.

[I. ACTION ITEMS]

SO WE ARE ON TO ITEM I1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

SELF EVALUATION.

FIRST OF ALL, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

KEEP TALKING. IT'LL TURN ON IN JUST A SECOND.

OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE US RECALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST ABOUT INTEGRITY, ABOUT LEADING PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO, TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU WOULD DO IT BY THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THAT DONE.

AND I AM HERE TO SEND OUT MY, APOLOGIES.

I DID NOT MEET THAT STANDARD OF INTEGRITY FOR THIS BOARD AGENDA ITEM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE BOARD BOOK, IT IS A BLANK QUARTERLY PROGRESS TRACKER, AND THE BOARD HAD SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE ALL OF THE PAST INFORMATION FROM ONE, QUARTER TO THE NEXT FOR REFERENCE IN THIS DISCUSSION.

SO I AM HERE TO GIVE YOU MY APOLOGIES TO THE BOARD AND TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR STAFF.

I'D LIKE TO THANK TRUSTEE MARKUM, WHO DID PROVIDE US WITH THE INFORMATION, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE GETTING IT AS WE ARE SITTING DOWN TONIGHT.

WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM ME IN THE FUTURE IS THAT FOR QUARTERLY TRACKERS, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE IN THE BOARD BOOK AND WILL BE MADE PUBLIC TO THE PEOPLE, SO I APOLOGIZE.

CAN I JUST SAY WE THERE'S ACTUALLY A NOVEMBER ONE.

THIS IS FROM AUGUST.

YEAH. THERE IS. POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

THERE IS ONE MORE THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THIS BECAUSE WE DID THIS IN OCTOBER.

SO TRUSTEE MARKUM THIS IS THE LAST ONE YOU GUYS DID RIGHT? WE COMPLETED ONE AS A TEAM IN NOVEMBER, AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE ONE, THAT WAS THIS IS THE LAST ONE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THAT WAS COMPLETED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

BUT NOVEMBER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED IN HERE AS WELL.

SO WHAT I WILL DO I WILL GET WITH TRUSTEE MARKUM AND WE WILL MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND WE WILL PROVIDE A FULL DOCUMENT, THAT MAYBE REQUEST FOR TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC, THAT IT CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES THAT WILL BE APPROVED FOR YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE I'M NOT VERY COORDINATED, TALKING ON A MICROPHONE, HOLDING A PIECE OF PAPER, TRYING TO PUT MY GLASSES ON TO COME RIGHT OVER HERE AND [INAUDIBLE].

SO I'M GOING TO COME UP HERE.

AND JUST ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

[01:05:02]

SO I WANT TO JUST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, THE QUARTERLY TRACKER WE ARE REFERENCING AND SCORING THE BOARD ON THEIR WORK IN TERMS OF THE LONE STAR GOVERNANCE BOARD FRAMEWORK AND THE COMPONENTS OF THE BOARD FRAMEWORK.

SO FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, WHEN WE POST THIS FOR THE NEXT QUARTER WITH THE AGENDA, NOT ONLY WILL THE TRACKER BE THERE, BUT I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE FRAMEWORK. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE READING CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S MY FAULT AND MY APOLOGIES.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE'VE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS IN SOME AREAS, AND WE HAVE BEEN STAGNANT IN OTHER AREAS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT VISION AND GOALS 1, 2, 3, 4, THAT'S ALL ABOUT THE BOARD AGREEING WITH THE GOALS AND THE DEADLINE TARGETS.

THAT HAS BEEN, A DISAGREEMENT AMONG THIS BOARD SINCE WE'VE STARTED THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT, I WOULDN'T SAY DISAGREEMENT.

THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CHALLENGES TO THE CHALLENGING, CAPACITY OF THE GOALS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

I THINK THAT IS STILL AN ISSUE THAT I HOPE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS AGAIN AT A LATER DATE IN A BOARD WORKSHOP, AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND THE SUPERINTENDENT ON THOSE AREAS.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TIME GOING THROUGH GOALS ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.

IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? THAT WE DON'T REHASH THAT AGAIN.

IN PROGRESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY ONE, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BRING UP.

YOU HAD SAID THAT IN YOUR LAST QUARTER THAT YOU WERE AT 12 POINTS, WHICH THIS IS PROGRESS, ACCOUNTABILITY, ONE FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS HOW THE BOARD IS SPENDING THEIR TIME.

ARE THEY SPENDING THEIR TIME ON WHAT MATTERS MOST AND WHY SCHOOL SYSTEMS EXIST, WHICH IS IMPROVING STUDENT OUTCOMES.

HOW MUCH TIME ARE THEY ACTUALLY SPENDING? AND TO ACHIEVE THE MEETS FOCUS, IT'S 25% OR MORE.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL QUARTERS.

TRUSTEE MARKUM, SHARED WITH ME TODAY THAT, LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR QUARTER, YOU'RE AT 40%.

AND LOOKING AT JANUARY, WHERE WERE YOU? 48%. I THINK, GUYS, IF WE KEEP A TIGHT WORK ON OUR PROCESSES OF OF WHEN QUESTIONS ARE PRESENTED AND THINGS ARE PULLED, AND WE REDUCE SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION IN SOME OTHER AREAS.

I THINK YOU ALL COULD GET AT MASTERS FOCUS IN THE NEXT QUARTER, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME WORK.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE FOLLOWING SOME PROCESSES.

BUT THAT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE.

SO MY QUESTION FOR NEXT QUARTER PROGRESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY ONE, DO YOU ALL WANT TO SHOOT FOR MASTERS FOCUS 50% OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AT 12 MEETS FOCUS, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE OVER 25%.

I WILL SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, VIGOR TO GET ENTHUSIASM, LET'S SAY ENTHUSIASM.

BUT I ALSO KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS WITH BUDGET MEETINGS, WITH LONG RANGE PLANNING UPDATES, WITH STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BOARD BUSINESS THAT ARE REALLY KIND OF ONCE IN A, YOU KNOW, FIVE, SIX YEAR PROCESS THAT ARE GOING TO HIT OUR AGENDA, THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AGGRESSIVE.

TO HAVE SOME THINGS MAJOR LIKE THAT COME TO OUR AGENDA AND NOT BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THEM, ESPECIALLY FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO WHILE I LOVE GOING TO 15, I'M ALSO A BIT OF A REALIST, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE KNOWING WHAT'S COMING UP.

YEAH, I FORGET WE'RE IN FEBRUARY AND WE JUST LISTENED TO BUDGET, SO AND I SAW DR.

BONE GOING, NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

WE HAVE TO BE COMING TO TALK ABOUT SALARY STUDIES, SO IT WILL BE TOUGH.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK ON.

DR. BONE? DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? NO, I DON'T WANT TO USE MY TWO MINUTES.

BUT I AM WONDERING, ARE WE IN THIS TWO MINUTE? IT'S A POINT OF INQUIRY.

WERE YOU TIMING? YES.

WE'RE ON TWO MINUTES.

I DIDN'T SEE. I DON'T THINK YOU WERE TIMING HERE, WERE YOU? BUT YOU HAVE TWO TIMES TO SPEAK WITH QUESTIONS.

AND YOU HAVE ONE.

YOU HAVE TWO TIMES OF TWO MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR A FINAL STATEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN ACTION ITEM.

AND IF YOU NEED A REMINDER, IT IS IN THE FRONT PAGE OF YOUR BINDER WHAT THOSE TIMES ARE.

[01:10:06]

AND AS I LOOK AT THIS, INFORMATION, THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM THAT IS PREVENTING YOU.

TRUSTEE WEIR, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? THE EMPLOYEE TIME TRACKER.

THE STAFF TIME TRACKER? YES. AND SO DR.

AZAIEZ, I WILL GET WITH YOU, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE NEXT QUARTER SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

BUT I REALLY THINK YOU CAN GET TO FOUR NEXT TIME WITHOUT ANY PROCESSES.

THEN WE GO INTO SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES.

YOU WERE AT A FOUR WHICH IS APPROACHES FOCUS.

WE STILL ARE LOOKING AT SOME POLICY REVIEWS.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO MOVE.

ADVOCACY AND ENGAGEMENT.

THERE IS ONE THING, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WITH RECOGNIZING YOUR STUDENTS THAT YOU DO EVERY BOARD MEETING, ALL OF THE PEOPLE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE US ONCE IN THE NEXT QUARTER TO IDENTIFY STUDENTS.

THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALIGN SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS.

BECAUSE LIKE TONIGHT YOU DID SOME, YOUR, ORCHESTRA AND SOME OTHER STUDENTS, I BELIEVE.

OH, AND, YOUR CTE PROGRAM.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONCE IN THE NEXT QUARTER WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A STUDENT OUTCOME GOAL, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE READING THAT WE TAKE AN EFFORT TO HAVE THAT PIECE OF ALIGNMENT THAT WE RECOGNIZE STUDENTS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS GOAL IN READING, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT READING, AND SEE IF WE CAN'T PUT THAT IN PLACE FOR THE NEXT QUARTER AND THEN SYNERGY AND TEAMWORK.

I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO STAY THE SAME.

I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE MENTIONED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, COMPLETED THE REQUIRED TRAININGS.

I DO WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT TEA JUST RELEASED THE NEW 2024 ISO TRAINING.

IT IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS ISO TRAININGS, AND ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I LIKE THAT THEY INCLUDED WAS QUESTIONING STRATEGIES FOR THE BOARD IN TERMS OF STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS.

SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO, ENTERTAIN IN THE FUTURE, A TEAM OF EIGHT THREE HOUR ISO TRAINING FOR THE BOARD, IT'S NOT THE LONE STAR GOVERNANCE TRAINING, IT IS THE REQUIRED ISO TRAINING EVERY TWO YEARS.

IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO, THAT IS VERY MUCH AVAILABLE TO YOU.

SO I THINK, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP, MAKE THESE FINAL ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'LL SEND THESE OUT, GET THE REPORT.

AND TRUSTEE MARKUM, I DO WANT TO GO OVER YOU BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW TIME TRACKER REPORT FROM TEA THAT SHOWS HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS WERE HERE IN ATTENDANCE.

IT KIND OF TRACKS ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT GO BACK TO THE SYNERGY AND TEAMWORK.

DID WE HAVE 80% OF OUR BOARD AT THE MEETINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS? SO I'LL GO OVER THAT WITH YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS MAYBE A POINT OF INQUIRY IN WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT OUR POLICIES ON RECOGNITIONS.

WE ADJUSTED OUR POLICIES FOR BOARD RECOGNITIONS SEVERAL YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE RECOGNITIONS WERE GETTING VERY LONG, AND SO WE ADJUSTED OUR POLICIES THAT THEY HAD TO WIN A STATEWIDE OR A NATIONAL COMPETITION IN ORDER TO BE RECOGNIZED AT A BOARD MEETING.

BUT I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE POLICY IS ABOUT THAT.

DO YOU RECALL TRUSTEE WEIR? I BELIEVE THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T.

BUT SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A POLICY WE SO THAT MAY NEED TO REQUIRE US TO ADJUST OUR POLICIES IN ORDER TO HIT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER [INAUDIBLE].

I WILL GET WITH STAFF SO I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT POLICY AND TRUSTEE MARKUM I'LL JUST GO THROUGH YOU WITH LOOKING AT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN SO WE CAN MAKE THAT ALIGNMENT AND THOSE CONNECTION PIECES WITH THAT? ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? TRUSTEES. WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE TIME TRACKER AS DISCUSSED QUARTERLY TIME TRACKER, NOT THE MONTHLY TIME TRACKER.

I APPROVE THAT THE BOARD SELF EVALUATION.

IT'S NOT THE TIME. OKAY, I TAKE THAT BACK.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BOARD SELF EVALUATION AND QUARTERLY PROGRESS TIME TRACKER AS DISCUSSED SECOND.

[01:15:02]

SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WE'VE GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FACING OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I JUST FIND IT, DISAPPOINTING THAT WITH ALL OF THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACING ROUND ROCK ISD TODAY AND WE ARE THE ELECTED BODY HERE FOR REALLY ONE PURPOSE IN MY MIND TO DO ONE THING, AND THAT IS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

IT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING THAT WE SPEND ALL THIS TIME IN OUR REGULAR MEETINGS DOING THIS SELF EVALUATION THING, TALKING ABOUT OURSELVES.

IT'S STRANGE TO ME.

IT'S BIZARRE. IT'S WEIRD, IT'S UNPRODUCTIVE.

IT'D BE ONE THING IF WE WERE DOING THIS AND WE COULD SEE STUDENT STUDENT OUTCOMES, IMPROVING TEACHER RETENTION, IMPROVING STUDENT ENROLLMENT, INCREASING ALL THE LEADING INDICATORS.

BUT WE DON'T.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S SILLY AND I WISH THAT WE COULD SPEND OUR TIME ADDRESSING THE REAL CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACING OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

TRUSTEE BONE. AS I WAS SITTING HERE, I HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS OF HOW UNPRODUCTIVE THE LAST FEW MINUTES WERE AND HOW UNPRODUCTIVE.

HONESTLY, THIS WHOLE ENDEAVOR WITH LONE STAR GOVERNANCE HAS BEEN, SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

THEY CAN'T IS NOT CORRELATED DIRECTLY TO ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENT IN THE DISTRICT.

THERE'S NO DIRECT IMPROVEMENT.

AND SO, AND CAN I GET MY TIME BACK? THERE SEEMS TO BE DISCUSSION IN THE AUDIENCE THAT.

OKAY. SO.

ALL RIGHT, SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN BE INTERRUPTED, BUT [INAUDIBLE] BUT OBVIOUSLY I WAS INTERRUPTED BECAUSE I COULD HEAR PEOPLE, AND I SAW PEOPLE AT THE OTHER END OF THE DAIS MAKING COMMENTS THAT THEY COULDN'T HEAR ME BECAUSE OF IT.

I'VE STOPPED YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK SHE'S MADE THE DECISION AND IT'S NOT DEBATABLE AT THIS POINT.

SO YOU CAN MOVE ON. BUT I'M NOT KEEPING TIME YET.

SO WHEN YOU START, I'LL START AGAIN.

WELL, THEN I'D LIKE TO OVERRULE. I WOULD LIKE TO, VOTE ON OVERRULING THE CHAIR'S DECISION.

A MOTION TO APPEAL.

MOTION TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES.

AND CAN WE GET CLARITY ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, PLEASE? APPEALING THAT WHAT I WAS ASKING TO APPEAL IS THE DECISION THAT YOU NEED MORE TIME? NO. BECAUSE YOU WERE INTERRUPTED.

YES, THAT I WAS INTERRUPTED AND THAT MY TIME SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO ME.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF GIVING TRUSTEE BONE MORE TIME BECAUSE SHE WAS INTERRUPTED? RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING. MOTION FAILS 2 TO 5.

YOUR TIME WILL START AGAIN WHEN YOU START TALKING.

THANK YOU. AS I WAS SAYING.

THIS BOARD HAS SO MANY ISSUES AS TRUSTEE WESTON WAS POINTING OUT.

AND WE SPEND OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT POINTS.

AND IT CONCERNS ME WHEN I SEE ADULTS EXCITED THAT WE'RE GETTING POINTS.

BUT I DON'T SEE ADULTS TALKING ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOMES, AND I DON'T SEE ADULTS TALKING ABOUT GETTING OUR ENROLLMENT UP SO THAT WE CAN BRING STUDENTS BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS.

AND YET WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT POINTS, THESE IMAGINARY POINTS THAT AGAIN, SOMEBODY PLEASE CORRELATE THEM TO OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES AND SHOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HELPING OUR STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM AND OUR TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM.

TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT WASTING TIME, BUT YOU WASTE SO MUCH TIME GIVING SPEECHES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

I MOVE TO CALL THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF CALLING THE QUESTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING OUR BOARD SELF EVALUATION.

RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DR.

MCMAHON. IT IS 7:45.

WE HAVE ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM.

WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES.

CAN WE MAKE IT TO THE LAST ONE BEFORE WE.

OKAY. SO WE'RE ON TO ITEM I TWO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF FAIR AND TRANSPARENT ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS. THIS WAS AN AGENDA REQUEST BY TRUSTEE HARRISON.

SO TRUSTEE HARRISON YOU ARE ENTITLED TO PRESENT, AND THEN WE WILL START COUNTING TIMES AFTER THAT.

AND JUST AS A CHAIR'S POINT ON THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT TRUSTEE HARRISON HAD REQUESTED IN NOVEMBER I BELIEVE IT WAS A CLOSED SESSION ITEM, BUT THIS IS A RELATED TO THAT AGENDA ITEM.

SO GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU.

IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, I MADE THE REQUEST WHILE FOLLOWING THE TEA LAWSUIT.

[01:20:07]

AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE DID GET ON THE NOVEMBER AGENDA, I THINK WE BASICALLY DETERMINED THAT, IT JUST WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME.

THINGS HAD ALREADY BEEN DECIDED AT THAT TIME AND SO WE LEFT IT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS THIS RESOLUTION THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE KINGSVILLE ISD SUPERINTENDENT WHO INITIATED THIS LAWSUIT.

THERE'S 121 DISTRICTS AT THIS POINT THAT HAVE JOINED THIS LAWSUIT.

AND THEY REPRESENT 10% OF THE STUDENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

NOW, COMMISSIONER MCGRATH'S JUSTIFICATION OR ARGUMENT.

IT'S ONLY 10% OF THE DISTRICTS ARE SAYING THAT THIS IS UNJUST OR UNLAWFUL.

AND THAT'S STILL ABOUT 1.9 MILLION STUDENTS.

AND ALSO, TO FILE A LAWSUIT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TIME, YOU HAVE TO HAVE POLITICAL WILL, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY.

SO ALL DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE THAT TO JOIN.

BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS RESOLUTION IS AN ACT OF SOLIDARITY.

I'M NOT AGAINST ACCOUNTABILITY.

I'M A TEACHER, RIGHT? I BELIEVE IN ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT I BELIEVE IN FAIR AND JUST ACCOUNTABILITY.

I BELIEVE IN THE TIMING OF THIS HAPPENING, BEING RESPECTFUL TO THE NEEDS OF CAMPUSES AND STUDENTS.

I BELIEVE PERSONALLY THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THIS IMPROPER.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT WHY YOU SUPPORT IT, THEN YOUR TIME, YOUR TIME WILL START.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE KIND OF A BACKGROUND INTO IT, AM I? YOU CAN START MY TIME.

OKAY. I'LL ROLL IT ALL INTO ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, THEM TRYING TO START THIS IMPROPER NARRATIVE ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OUR EFFECTIVENESS.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THIS IS HARMFUL AND DEMORALIZING TO PRINCIPALS, STUDENTS, EDUCATORS THAT ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY.

SO I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR US TO LOOK AT AND TO CONSIDER VOTING ON THIS RESOLUTION.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM THIS IS KINGSVILLE ISD WILL THEN GO BACK AND SAY, YOU SAID ONLY 10% ARE IN SUPPORT.

BUT IF OTHER DISTRICTS GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION, THAT NUMBER WILL INCREASE.

THANK YOU. AND THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, SO I WOULD NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS.

I MOVE THE BOARD.

ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED BY TRUSTEE HARRISON.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

TRUSTEE WESTON, YOUR LIGHT IS ON.

OKAY, TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO WHEN WE GOT THIS AGENDA TEN DAYS AGO, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

AND I DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWERS.

AND THEN I THINK ON WAS IT MONDAY OR TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK? TRUSTEE LANDRUM TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS YOUR AGENDA ITEM.

WELL, IT WAS THIS WEEK THAT YOU SAID THAT I SHOULD SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

YOU EMAILED ME WHEN IT APPEARED ON THE DRAFT AGENDA TEN DAYS AGO, ASKED WHERE IT WAS FROM, AND I SAID IT WAS AN AGENDA REQUEST FROM TRUSTEE HARRISON AND YOU NOTED THAT THE DRAFT AGENDA DID NOT HAVE HER NAME ON IT.

AND SO THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY FAULT.

AND SO I MADE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE HER NAME WOULD BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA WHEN THE FINAL AGENDA WAS POSTED.

YOU ASKED FOR FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AND ASKED FOR DOCUMENTATION ON MONDAY, AND I SENT YOU SCREENSHOTS OF THE TWO EMAILS THAT I HAD RECEIVED BETWEEN HER AND I ON THIS.

AND BUT I TOLD YOU BECAUSE TRUSTEE HARRISON AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT IT, AND YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL THAT INCLUDED YOURSELF AND TRUSTEE BONE THAT I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE DISCUSSING IT VIA EMAIL DUE TO [INAUDIBLE] CONCERNS.

SO THAT'S THE HISTORY OF HOW ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES.

AND I SAID, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ASK THEM AT THE MEETING.

RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

YEAH. AND HERE I'M LIMITED TO TWO.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO VIOLATE TOMA, SINCE THERE WERE NOW FOUR TRUSTEES THAT HAD BEEN TOUCHING THIS ITEM AT SOME POINT, COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE AND REASONABLE.

BUT NOW I'M LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES TO EVEN ASK MY QUESTIONS.

RIGHT. JUST CLARIFICATION.

YOU HAVE TWO TIMES TO SPEAK FOR UP TO TWO MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR A FINAL STATEMENT.

OH, FLIP FLOP THAT.

SO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO DISCUSS AND MAKE A FINAL STATEMENT.

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IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A DISCUSSION ITEM.

IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP YOUR FOLDER, IT'S IN THE FRONT POCKET OF YOUR, TRUSTEE FOLDER.

MY POINT IS THAT THERE'S SOME FRICTION HERE OVER, YOU KNOW, SEEKING TO AVOID TOMA VIOLATIONS.

BUT THEN THE ARBITRARY LIMITS THAT ARE PLACED ON OUR ABILITIES TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO THERE'S SOME FRICTION THERE WITH, A POINT OF ORDER.

I'VE GOT SOME DISTRACTION OVER HERE.

MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT SO THAT I CAN REMAIN FOCUSED? SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE IT.

SO I'LL TRY TO PAY MORE ATTENTION.

YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT ANYTHING I CAN SEE, IT'S AN AUDIBLE DISTRACTION.

CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT, PLEASE? AGAIN. I DIDN'T HEAR IT.

DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. BUT I WILL TRY TO PAY A CLOSER ATTENTION.

GO AHEAD. BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY A CRIME TO DISRUPT OUR MEETING.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FOCUS.

IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM PRESIDENT? CAN I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER? BECAUSE THERE'S SIX MINUTES WORTH OF TIME, AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR SIX MINUTES.

I MEAN, CAN WE JUST MOVE ON WITH THE QUESTIONS ON THIS ACTION ITEM RATHER THAN ANYTHING ELSE? IS THAT A QUESTION FOR ME? IT'S TO THE CHAIR.

CAN THE CHAIR. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

WHAT ARE YOU ASKING? IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEM.

SHE'S USING HER TWO MINUTES RIGHT NOW TO SPEAK ON HER FIRST TIME AND ASK QUESTIONS.

SO, WELL, LET'S MOVE ON.

I WILL PAY ATTENTION TO THE MEETING AND MAKE SURE IF I'M NOT SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, BUT I WILL TRY TO CHECK IT MORE.

YEAH, I'VE ALREADY SAID IT'S NOTHING I'M SEEING.

IT'S AN AUDIBLE DISTRACTION.

AND I ASKED, IS IT A CRIME TO DISRUPT OUR MEETING TO THE POINT WHERE I CANNOT FOCUS ON THE MATTER AT HAND? THAT IS A YES OR NO QUESTION.

I'M NOT A LAWYER, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I CAN ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE MEETING IF THEY'RE DISRUPTING IT AFTER THEY GET A WARNING, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY RISE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'VE RECEIVED A WARNING YET.

SO KEEP GOING, PLEASE.

I'VE BEEN DISTRACTED MULTIPLE TIMES AND DR.

BONE HAS BEEN DISTRACTED MULTIPLE TIMES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CHAIR IS AWARE OF THAT.

SO CAN I JUST, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS HOW DO STUDENTS BENEFIT FROM THIS RESOLUTION? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS I ASKED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE IT WAS LIKE THREE SENTENCES.

IT SAID THAT NOVEMBER WAS.

WE ARE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE AGENDA, THE RESOLUTIONS ARE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

DIFFERENT BOARD PRESIDENTS.

ALSO. POINT OF ORDER.

ARE WE POSTED TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENCES AND I'M SORRY YOU DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE ME.

POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? ARE WE POSTED TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENCES IN HOW SOME THINGS PLACE ON THE AGENDA? NO, WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT EITHER, BUT I FEEL LIKE ANY TIME I TRY TO BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE, I'M HUMAN, I MAKE MISTAKES, BUT I TRY TO BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE. THE LAST TIME YOU REQUEST FOR AN AGENDA FOR A RESOLUTION, I WAS NOT BOARD PRESIDENT, SO I CAN'T ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THAT TIME FRAME.

OKAY. WELL, IT WAS TREATED ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

SO WE'LL JUST START WITH I WOULD LIKE SPECIFICALLY TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR STUDENTS IN OUR CLASSROOM WHO NEED TO BE COLLEGE AND CAREER MILITARY READY AND WHO ARE TRYING TO READ, AND TEACHERS, WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO STAY IN ROUND ROCK ISD OR LEAVE.

HOW DO SPECIFICALLY HOW DOES THIS RESOLUTION IMPACT THOSE CRITICAL INDICATORS IN OUR DISTRICT? SO TRUSTEE HARRISON, YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT TAKES OUT OF ANY OF YOUR TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO HER QUESTION.

SO GO AHEAD. YEAH.

SO AS A TEACHER AND AS A FORMER TEACHER AND AS A STUDENT IN THIS DISTRICT, FORMERLY, IT'S ABRUPT.

SO TEACHERS AND STUDENTS SPENT A LOT OF TIME LAST YEAR LEARNING HOW TO TRANSFER A WHOLE TEST ONLINE, VERY YOUNG STUDENTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT IN ITSELF WAS AN INCREDIBLE LIFT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

WE SAT HERE ON THIS DAIS AND ATTEMPTED THE QUESTIONS, AND IT WAS FRUSTRATING AND NONE OF US COULD DO IT, SO IT PLACES AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THEIR LEARNING.

ALSO, MID-YEAR ACCOUNTABILITY SWITCHES.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION LAST MONTH THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL, BUT OUR STAFF DID A LOT OF EXTRA WORK TO TRY TO BRIDGE THE GAP BEHIND BETWEEN THE INFORMATION THAT THE TEA HAD AND WAS PRESENTING AND THE NEW SYSTEM OF ACCOUNTABILITY THEY WERE MOVING TO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF BRINGING IN THAT INFORMATION AND DATA.

SO THAT IS TAKING OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF AWAY FROM WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING AROUND THINGS LIKE DEVELOPING CURRICULUM TO SUPPORT OUR TEACHERS, WHICH I'LL TELL YOU, WE NEED TO WORK ON OUR CURRICULUM.

AND ROUND ROCK ISD, IT'S TAKING THEM AWAY FROM THAT TO HAVE TO BUILD SOLUTIONS TO MAKE SENSE AND MAKE MEANING OF DATA ABOUT STUDENT PERFORMANCE AND STUDENT OUTCOMES.

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IT'S NOT GOOD FOR STUDENTS.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR STAFF.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN ACCOUNTABILITY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS VERY ABRUPT TRANSITION WITHOUT, ESSENTIALLY A TRANSITION PLAN IS DEEPLY UNFAIR. I'M THINKING ABOUT SCHOOLS THAT ARE IMPROVING SCHOOLS, RIGHT? SCHOOLS THAT ARE MOVING FROM D TO F, THAT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE HAD SCHOOLS THAT HAVE GONE TO D FROM D TO B.

THEY HAVE WORKED SO HARD.

THOSE PRINCIPALS HAVE WORKED SO HARD ON THOSE CAMPUSES.

THOSE CAMPUSES HAD SPECIAL SUPPORT.

THOSE EDUCATORS WORKED OVER TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE TEACHING SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE STUDENTS.

THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS. AND THEN WE GO TO THIS NEW ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WITHOUT A TRANSITION PLAN.

AND NOW THEY'RE BEING TOLD THAT THEIR B IS A D OR AN F.

AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.

IT'S COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T BELIEVE IN ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS SAYING.

IF YOU LOOK IN THIS RESOLUTION, I THINK THAT IT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR HOW THIS BENEFITS STUDENTS AND STAFF.

IT'S ASKING FOR TRANSPARENCY TO PARENTS.

SO DR. BONE HIGHLIGHTED THIS EARLIER.

HOW DO PARENTS KNOW WHAT SCHOOLS ARE RATED RIGHT NOW IN THE SYSTEM? THEY DON'T.

AND EVEN IF WE HAD THE RATINGS, IT WOULDN'T BE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO NECESSARILY MAKE MEANING OF HOW THEIR SCHOOLS ARE DOING.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

SIMPLE. THIS INFORMATION IS NOT SIMPLE ACCESSIBLE.

THIS INFORMATION IS NOT ACCESSIBLE.

UNDERSTANDABLE ALREADY WENT THROUGH HOW THIS IMPACTS STUDENTS OF THEM HAVING TO LEARN THIS WHOLE NEW SYSTEM ON THE HEELS OF COMING OUT OF COVID.

THERE'S MORE BECAUSE LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THIS.

SINCE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, IT REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONER TO PROVIDE THE MEASURES, METHODS AND PROCEDURES TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WILL BE APPLIED TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR WITHOUT MIDYEAR CHANGE.

ANYONE KNOWS THAT MIDYEAR CHANGE IS DISRUPTIVE TO STUDENTS.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S DISRUPTIVE TO TEACHERS.

WE JUST SAW THAT IN 2022, WE HAD A HIGH LEVEL OF TURNOVER.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ALSO HAPPENED IN 2022.

WE REQUIRED READING ACADEMIES.

WE REQUIRED READING ACADEMIES OVER AND BEYOND.

IS THAT GOOD FOR STUDENTS AT THE END OF THE DAY? YES, I REALLY THINK IT IS.

HOWEVER, THAT GAVE ADDITIONAL LABOR TO TEACHERS TIME, ADDITIONAL LABOR TO TEACHERS CAPACITY.

SO THAT WASN'T GOOD FOR TEACHERS.

AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR STUDENTS.

IT WAS ESSENTIALLY AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

WE COULD KEEP GOING.

IT SAYS YEAR TO YEAR CONSISTENCY ALLOWS TIMELY NOTICE TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEIR CAMPUSES TO PLAN SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT EFFORTS BASED ON THE MEASURES, METHODS AND PROCEDURES ADOPTED TO THE COMMISSIONER.

WHEN EDUCATORS HAVE TIME TO PREPARE, THAT HELPS STUDENTS THAT SUPPORT STUDENTS IN THEIR CLASSROOM AND IN THEIR LEARNING.

IT TALKS ABOUT YEAR TO YEAR BASIS WITHOUT MIDYEAR CHANGE.

I'M NOT DONE. WELL, I KNOW, BUT IF THIS IS A DIALOG, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE JUST, PONTIFICATING ON WHY YOU.

POINT OF ORDER, GUYS. YOU CAN'T JUST JUMP IN.

THIS IS NOT A DIALOG WHEN WE HAVE.

TIMES WE HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER FOR OUR TIME KEEPER TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S KEEPING UP WITH THIS.

I'VE SAID THIS IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS.

YOU HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR AND THEN I CAN POINT YOU OUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN CALL YOU OUT SO THAT YOUR TIME CAN BE TRACKED AGAIN.

BUT GO AHEAD. YES.

SO YOU ASKED A QUESTION.

I'M ANSWERING IT. I DON'T THINK IT HAS A TIME LIMIT.

IT ALSO DISPLAYS HERE WHY.

POINT OF ORDER. [INAUDIBLE] FOR STUDENTS.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT? NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT WE GET EXTRA TIME.

SHE IS ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED DIRECTLY TO HER, AND SHE'S GONE WAY BEYOND THE ANSWERING OF THE QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON WAS SAYING THAT.

SO NO, I HAVEN'T.

I STILL HAD THE FLOOR.

WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO RULE THAT THIS IS STILL HER ANSWERING THE QUESTION, BECAUSE TRUSTEE WESTON ASKED FOR HOW THIS COULD IMPACT STUDENTS.

I'VE RULED ON IT. GO AHEAD.

TRUSTEE HARRISON. YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.

I'M ALMOST DONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.

I BELIEVE SHE'S ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.

SHOULD TRUSTEE HARRISON BE.

WHAT'S THE MOTION? I APPEAL THAT I WAS ASKING YOU THAT THE QUESTION HAD BEEN ANSWERED BY TRUSTEE HARRISON.

SO THE MOTION IS I APPEAL YOUR DECISION THAT YOU THINK TRUSTEE HARRISON HAS NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTION HAS FULLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

YES. I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID SHE HADN'T, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS, AND I BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.

OKAY, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF STOPPING TRUSTEE HARRISON FROM ANSWERING TRUSTEE WESTON QUESTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.

AS I UNDERSTAND, DR.

BONE. SHE COULDN'T EVEN ARTICULATE IT.

SO I WAS PUTTING IT INTO MY WORDS AND GIVE ME A MOTION AND I WILL REPEAT YOUR MOTION.

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TELL ME WHAT YOU. WHAT DID YOU RULE ON THAT? TRUSTEE HARRISON HADN'T FINISHED ANSWERING THE QUESTION BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE HASN'T FINISHED ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

AND THAT IS WHAT I'M APPEALING.

OKAY, SO WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? MOTION. APPEALING THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.

THAT IS THE MOTION.

AMBER. SO YOU MADE YOUR CALL.

POINT OF ORDER. TRUSTEE WEIR WAS NOT RECOGNIZED.

DECORUM, PLEASE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF STOPPING TRUSTEE HARRISON FROM ANSWERING THE QUESTION? BECAUSE THERE'S DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION FAILS. 2 TO 5.

CONTINUE, TRUSTEE HARRISON.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

I'M NOT DONE. YOU ASKED A QUESTION.

I'M GIVING YOU A VERY THOROUGH ANSWER ABOUT HOW THIS IMPACTS STUDENTS AND STAFF AND HOW IT'S GOOD FOR STUDENTS.

SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OVER FAIR, TRANSPARENT AND EFFECTIVE SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

WE WANT IT TO BE FAIR. WE WANT STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE IT AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE WANT IT TO BE CLEAR WHY THE SYSTEM EXISTS, AND WE WANT IT TO BE EFFECTIVE AT ACTUALLY MEASURING.

AND I'M GOING TO PULL THIS FROM, LONESTAR GOVERNANCE, WHAT STUDENTS KNOW AND WHAT THEY CAN DO.

AND THAT DEFINITELY, I MEAN, MAYBE TO ME ISN'T REPRESENTED IN HOW THEY TAKE A TEST ONLINE WHEN THEY'RE LIKE SIX YEARS OLD.

MID-YEAR CHANGES ARE DISRUPTIVE TO STUDENTS.

WE'VE SAID THAT WE KNOW THAT TO BE VERY TRUE.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS ONE LAST PART ON THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH IS ONLY ONE PAGE LONG.

IT TALKS ABOUT USES MULTIPLE EFFECTIVE SCHOOL MEASURES FOR ALL GRADE LEVELS.

SO THAT MEANS FROM OUR YOUNGEST STUDENTS THAT MIGHT BE TAKING THIS TEST ALL THE WAY UP, OR MIGHT BE EXPERIENCING THIS ACCOUNTABILITY RATING SYSTEM, THAT IT'S GRADE LEVEL APPROPRIATE, WHICH THAT IMPACTS STUDENTS MAJORLY IN THEIR ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO LEARN, IT SAYS A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO ASSIGN THE RATINGS OF A CAMPUS.

SO MEANING THAT THE RATINGS OF A CAMPUS AREN'T BASED ON JUST ONE SINGULAR MEASURE, ONE POINT IN TIME ON A TEST, AND THE PERFORMANCE OF EACH STUDENT, WHICH WE ARE.

I KNOW ALL SEVEN OF US ON THIS DAIS ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, LIKE INDIVIDUAL STUDENT PROGRESS AND STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT PROGRESS.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE ACKNOWLEDGE A LOT WHEN, DR.

NICHOLS PRESENTS IT.

SO PERFORMANCE OF EACH STUDENT IN LIEU OF RELYING HEAVILY ON A STANDARDIZED TEST.

SO YOU ASKED HOW THIS BENEFIT STUDENTS? I THINK I'VE VERY THOROUGHLY EXPLAINED IT AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.

SO I WAS HOPING TONIGHT TRUSTEE HARRISON FOR GOOD FAITH DIALOG.

AND THAT'S THE SPIRIT WITH WHICH I ASKED MY QUESTION.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I HAVE I'VE ALREADY READ THE DOCUMENT.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS HOW DO STUDENTS IN OUR CLASSROOM BENEFIT? AND I DON'T THINK YOU GOT THERE.

I WILL TELL YOU FROM A PARENT PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD CHILDREN COME THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SYSTEM HERE AND ENTER HIGHER EDUCATION AND I'VE ALSO HAD CHILDREN THAT DON'T ENTER HIGHER EDUCATION, THAT ENTER THE WORKFORCE.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 60 BY 30 GOAL OF THE STATE AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE DATA IS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WITH LITERACY, WITH NUMERACY, WITH COLLEGE AND CAREER MILITARY READINESS.

THE NUMBERS.

NOBODY WOULD LOOK AT THAT STUFF AND SAY AND PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK.

I MEAN, AS A STATE.

WE'RE NOT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND I SEE IT AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE BEFORE.

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

OUR STUDENTS ARE COMING OUT OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS HERE, EVEN HERE IN ROUND ROCK ISD, AND THEY CANNOT PASS THE MATH PLACEMENT EXAM IN HIGHER EDUCATION.

SO THERE IS A REAL DOWNSTREAM EFFECT ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN TEXAS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND IT'S NOT ALL GOOD NEWS.

THERE'S A LOT OF NOT GOOD NEWS.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW WHO AT TEA DEVELOPS THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MOTIVE TO, LIKE A NEFARIOUS MOTIVE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE ROUND ROCK ISD MAYBE I'M WRONG.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT I JUST STRUGGLE TO SPEND TIME ON THAT, ON, LIKE, VOTING AND LIKE, PUTTING OUR NAME ON THIS PUBLICLY BECAUSE SOME OTHER SUPERINTENDENT AND SOME OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AFRAID THAT HIS SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO LOOK BAD, AND I DON'T I'M NOT HERE FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK GOOD.

I'M HERE FOR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO LEARN.

AND SO, I MEAN, HAVING HEARD SOME OF MY CONCERNS AGAIN, BECAUSE I AM HERE IN GOOD FAITH.

AND INTERRUPTING YOU EARLIER WAS JUST TO TRY TO GET YOU TO GET MORE LIKE.

LIKE SPECIFIC TO THE CHILDREN IN OUR CLASSROOMS.

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BUT HAVING HEARD MY CONCERNS.

I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, RESPOND.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO ARGUE, BUT, I JUST QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND LIKE, WHAT'S ACTUALLY ACHIEVED AND WHAT STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY HELPED AND AND RECONCILING THAT WITH THE REAL DEFICIENCIES THAT ARE WESTON.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES ON COMMENTARY.

ALRIGHT. I THINK YOU HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND.

AND THAT IS TO SAY, I THINK I DISPLAYED WHY MID-YEAR CHANGES.

THIS DOES GO INTO YOUR PERFECT TWO MINUTES.

MID-YEAR CHANGES ARE BAD FOR STUDENTS AND IT DISRUPTS THEIR EDUCATION AND THEIR CONTINUAL LEARNING PROCESS.

WE'VE MADE TREMENDOUS STRIDES ON EARLY LITERACY BY BEING ABLE TO FOCUS ON IT.

LAST YEAR WE TOURED CAMPUS AFTER CAMPUS, RIGHT, AND SAW THOSE STRIDES WITH THAT INTENTIONALITY, HAVING TO STOP WHEN YOU'RE SEVEN YEARS OLD AND LEARN HOW TO TAKE A TEST ON A COMPUTER IS GOING TO DISRUPT THOSE EFFORTS.

SO IT DOES IMPACT STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND I'M ALSO UNWILLING TO ASSIGN MEANING TO WHAT ANOTHER SUPERINTENDENT IS A WOMAN, BY THE WAY.

BUT TO WHAT? ANOTHER SUPERINTENDENT THAT TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT ACCOUNTABILITY IN THEIR DISTRICT? BECAUSE I'VE CLEARLY SAID THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE WANT TO LOOK GOOD.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT DATA AND MAKE MEANING FROM DATA THAT BENEFITS THE PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS.

THAT LETS US KNOW EARLY IF, FORMATIVELY NOT JUST SUMMATIVE EARLY, IF THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE, IF WE CAN CONNECT THE DOTS TO THEIR LEARNING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, NOT JUST WHEN THEY GET TO A YEAR END TEST.

SO WE'RE NOT ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE COIN.

AND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION STILL STANDS.

HEARING YOUR CONCERNS. AND I APPRECIATE THE DIALOG.

TRUSTEE WEIR.

I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE TRUSTEE HARRISON YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I DID NOT REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS LAWSUIT WERE ASKING FOR SUPPORT AND HELP.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAD AS A CHILD, THAT GETS A LOT OF ANXIETY WITH A WHOLE YEAR'S WORTH OF NOTICE.

TO BE CHANGED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR OR TO START THE YEAR NOT KNOWING WHAT TESTS ARE EVEN COMING AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IS INCREDIBLY HARD FOR THE STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT.

IN OUR CLASSROOMS. AND I APPRECIATE ASKING TEA TO GIVE US A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM AHEAD OF TIME.

NOT AFTER SCHOOL HAS ALREADY STARTED, NOT AFTER OUR KIDS ARE ALREADY IN.

NOT AFTER OUR TEACHERS ALREADY HAVE THEIR LESSON PLANS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSED. MOTION FAILS 4 TO 3.

SORRY, I HAVE COMMENT ON THIS ONE.

TRUSTEE BONE. THANK YOU.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT BRINGING SOMETHING BEFORE OUR BOARD, BECAUSE ANOTHER BOARD AND AN ALLIANCE WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOES SEEM VERY ODD TO ME THAT THIS WASN'T BROUGHT FOR THE PURPOSE OF ROUND ROCK ISD AND WHAT IT DOES FOR ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS.

SO I HESITATE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING, TO SUPPORT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT THIS PLATFORM.

WE ACTUALLY ARE MEMBERS OF THINGS LIKE TASB.

AND THAT'S TO ME WHERE THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES WOULD BE HANDLED.

AND SO I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.

HOW DOES THIS IMPACT ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS? AND IF WE GO BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS EVENING.

I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S HURTING OUR STUDENTS TO NOT BE ABLE TO RELEASE THESE.

SO I ACTUALLY THINK THESE LAWSUITS IN OUR DISTRICT, FOR SOME DISTRICTS, THEY HAD TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT THEY WERE MAKING HARD CHOICES ON THEIR DAIS.

BUT ON OUR DAIS, OUR STUDENTS, I BELIEVE IN ROUND ROCK NEED IT TO SEE WHERE THEIR SCHOOLS ARE AT.

AND I HAVE FOLLOWED THIS VERY CLOSELY.

AND MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN.

DR. AZAIEZ YOU MIGHT CORRECT ME, BUT.

MR. MORATH HAD COMMISSIONER MORATH HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WOULD BE APPLES TO APPLES, THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE THE RATING 2 DIFFERENT RATINGS.

THEY WOULD GIVE ONE WITH THE OLD SYSTEM WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, AND THEY WOULD GIVE ONE WITH THE NEW SYSTEM.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO THAT.

THEY WERE GOING TO SUPPLY BOTH RATINGS SO THAT PARENTS COULD SEE, SO THAT ADMINISTRATORS COULD SEE THE OLD RATING ALONG WITH THE NEW.

SO THAT'S A MYTH.

I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DEBUNKED HERE.

AND THEN I HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THE YEAR TO YEAR CONSISTENCY.

FOR ME, INTEGRITY AND TEACHING STUDENTS INTEGRITY IS FOR THE ADULTS THAT ARE OVER THEM TO LIVE IT OUT.

AND THE REASON THAT THE CHANGES WERE MADE IN 2022, 2023 WAS BECAUSE IN 2017, SUPERINTENDENTS AND DISTRICTS SAID, HEY,

[01:45:06]

WE WANT A FIVE YEAR HOLD STEADY ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES. AND THEN THEY DID THAT.

AND NOW THIS IS WHAT.

SHE DOES HAVE ANOTHER TWO MINUTES, BUT USUALLY IT'S THE OTHER OPPOSITE SIDE.

SO I HAVE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, THAT HAD THE ACCOUNTABILITY CHANGES GONE INTO EFFECT, OVER 25% OF SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WOULD HAVE HAD THEIR ACCOUNTABILITY RATING LOWERED.

SOME MAY HAVE FAILED, SOME MAY NOT HAVE.

BUT TO ME, WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS BEING FAIR AND TRANSPARENT IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE MEASURING OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF AND HONORING THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME WHEN IT COMES TO RETROACTIVELY CHANGING THE ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES FOR A GRADUATING CLASS THAT IS NO LONGER IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND NOW SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR STUDENTS THAT NO LONGER ATTEND OUR SCHOOLS IS INHERENTLY WRONG AND INAPPROPRIATE.

NOT ONLY THE MIDYEAR CHANGES TO THE TEST AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT, BUT THAT IS A MOVING TARGET THAT YOU WE HAVE NO WAY OF IMPACTING.

AND TO ME, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.

IT FELT LIKE POLITICS CAME INTO PLAY TO THESE CHANGES.

SET WHATEVER MEASURES YOU'RE GOING TO SET FROM THE STATE, LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE.

WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MEET IT.

BUT IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS TO TELL THEM THAT THIS IS ONE MEASURE.

AND THEN HALFWAY THROUGH OR AFTER, THE STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY LEFT OUR DISTRICT TO SAY, THIS IS NO LONGER THE STANDARD, WE ARE CHANGING THAT STANDARD.

AND NOW YOU HAVE TO MEET THIS.

THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND INEFFECTIVE AND NOT FAIR WAY TO GOVERN OUR STATE AND THE SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

IT ALSO DOES NOT HONOR THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING IN OUR SCHOOLS, AND MASSIVE GAINS HAVE BEEN MADE TO REACH BACK TO COVID AND PRE-COVID, PRE-COVID, SETS ABILITIES, MARKERS, WHATEVER, AND TO THEN SAY OUR SCHOOLS ARE FAILING AND WHETHER IT'S OUR SCHOOLS OR SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE ALL HAVE TO BE UNDER THE SAME MEASURES.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

TRUSTEE ZARATE, YOUR LIGHTS ON NOW? TRUSTEE ZÁRATE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT'S CLEAR, THAT THE ADVERSARIAL, POSITION OF THIS ENTIRE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM IS COMING FROM THE STATE.

IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE DISTRICTS.

THE DISTRICTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED BY IT AND UNFAIRLY IN A LOT OF WAYS.

AND IF WE AS A BOARD CAN'T SUPPORT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT, NEED SUPPORT IN SOMETHING THAT WE ALL BELIEVE IN, THEN WE CAN'T USE THESE DISTRICTS AS EXAMPLES FOR OUR OWN GOOD IN OTHER SITUATIONS.

WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

YOU CAN'T PULL STATS ABOUT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN SIMILAR IN SIZE TO US.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THEM IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.

AND WITH THAT, I CALL THE QUESTION.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE, TWO.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS 8:14.

[J. BOARD BUSINESS]

I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS GO FIRST THIS TIME.

SO TRUSTEE HARRISON? THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LANDRUM.

I JUST, WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE BOARD WEBSITE.

THE SMALLER COMMITTEE, THAT'S DOING TWO WAY COMMUNICATION, HAS WORKED WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO HAVE PEOPLE, BE ABLE TO ACCESS. LET'S TALK. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BUGGY, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GO NOW.

FROM THE BOARD WEBSITE.

BUT THEN ALSO THERE'S A NEW FEATURE THAT SAYS YOU CAN REQUEST A BOARD OF TRUSTEE TO GUEST SPEAK AT YOUR EVENT.

IT SAYS GUEST SPEAK.

BUT LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE COMMUNITY OR A CIVIC ORGANIZATION AND YOU'D LIKE A TRUSTEE PRESENCE TO COME GET TO KNOW THE ORGANIZATION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THAT FEATURE TO REQUEST, OUR ATTENDANCE.

YOU CAN REQUEST SPECIFIC TRUSTEE OR TRUSTEES OR JUST HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TO COME ENGAGE.

AND I HOPE THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL WAY FOR US TO FOSTER GOODWILL, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

TRUSTEE WESTON. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO CAMPUS TOURS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK BEING DONE ON THE GROUND IN SO MANY OF OUR SCHOOLS, BY SO MANY OF OUR TEACHERS AND SO MANY OF OUR STUDENTS BEING SUPPORTED BY SO MANY OF OUR PARENTS.

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AND SO WHEN I GO INTO THE CLASSROOMS AND I SEE THE LASER FOCUS ON PHONICS AND READING, WE KNOW THAT, OF COURSE, FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF SCHOOL, WE JUST LEARNED TO READ, BECAUSE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ TO LEARN.

AND I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED SEEING THAT WORK BY SOME WONDERFUL TEACHERS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND ENJOY THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THESE CAMPUSES WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD IS, DR.

AZAIEZ, THE DEMOGRAPHER REPORTS SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY NOT KNOW WE PAY A DEMOGRAPHER TO GIVE US QUARTERLY REPORTS, THE LAST ONE ON THE WEBSITE.

AND THESE ARE PUBLIC. THESE ARE NOT A SECRET.

THAT'S ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE.

THE LAST ONE IS FOR THE SECOND QUARTER LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE Q THREE.

SO IF WE COULD JUST GET THAT ON THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DELAY WAS, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL DO THAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY AND ALSO HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE UPDATING US WITH THE Q4 AND WE HOPE MAYBE TO BRING HIM HERE AT SOME POINT SINCE WE HAVE, ALL THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ROMAN AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND IN FUTURE MEETING.

OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

SO JUST A SECOND REMINDER OF OUR PERFORMANCES.

IF YOU DON'T COME TO OUR MEETINGS IN PERSON, YOU ARE TRULY MISSING OUT.

ADMINISTRATION HAS REALLY DONE A FABULOUS JOB OF BRINGING SOME OF OUR AMAZING STUDENTS TO DO PERFORMANCES BEFORE OUR MEETINGS.

AND TONIGHT WE HAD THE, CACTUS RANCH ELEMENTARY'S THIRD THROUGH FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS WHO WERE FINALIST IN THE DR.

MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR ORATORY COMPETITION.

Y'ALL, THESE KIDS WERE AMAZING.

THEY HAD TO MEMORIZE A SPEECH TWO MINUTES LONG AND INCORPORATE THE QUOTE FROM DR.

KING THAT SAYS, WE MUST ACCEPT FINITE DISAPPOINTMENT, BUT WE MUST NEVER LOSE INFINITE HOPE.

AND ONE OF THE KIDDOS IN THEIR SPEECH, I'M GOING TO I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL EVER FORGET IT, BUT IT SAID INFINITE HOPE IS OUR SUPERPOWER.

AND I JUST REALLY LOVED THAT QUOTE FROM DR.

KING. AND I LOVED THE THE KIDDOS THAT CAME AND GOT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

AND WE ALSO HAD A STUDENT FROM MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE BLACK STUDENT ALLIANCE, WHO READ A POEM ENTITLED NEW DAY'S LYRIC BY AMANDA GORMAN.

AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

THAT TIES INTO ECHOING TRUSTEE HARRISON'S HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

THERE'S BEEN SOME AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES THIS MONTH IN THE DISTRICT TO BE ENGAGED, AND I JUST THINK IT'S AMAZING.

TRUSTEE HARRISON STOLE MY THUNDER ON THE TWO WAY COMMUNICATION AND ASKING A TRUSTEE TO SIGN UP, BUT IT IS ON THE WEBSITE IF YOU WOULD LIKE A TRUSTEE TO COME AND SPEAK.

WE HAVE TWO UPCOMING MEETINGS.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE ORIGINALLY HAD FOUR MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, AND WE ARE DOWN TO TWO.

AND THAT IS A OKAY.

SORRY I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE CLAPPING, BUT I'M FINE WITH THAT.

WE HAVE OUR NEXT REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON MARCH THE 21ST.

I HAVE A YES FROM EVERYBODY, BUT NO RESPONSE FROM TRUSTEE WESTON.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET WORKSHOP.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO THE TASB PRESENTATION.

WHO WILL BE LOOKING AT OUR SALARY STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON MARCH THE 28TH.

I HAVE A YES FROM, LANDRUM, WEIR, MARKUM AND ZÁRATE.

I HAVE A MAYBE FROM TRUSTEE HARRISON AND I HAVE NO RESPONSE FROM TRUSTEES BONE AND WESTON.

SO IF YOU GUYS CAN UPDATE YOUR CALENDARS, ESPECIALLY FOR MARCH 28TH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT WILL BE AT THAT MEETING.

I TRY TO HAVE MEETINGS WHERE WE HAVE A FEW MORE PEOPLE THAN THAT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT TRUSTEE MARKUM REQUESTED, COMING UP ON OUR MARCH MEETING, WHICH IS A FOLLOW UP FROM OUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING ON OUR LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY AND, LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

AND SO IN FUTURE OR IN ADVANCE OF THAT, I'VE TALKED WITH TRUSTEE MARKUM.

I'D LIKE TO DO A SMALL SUBCOMMITTEE TO KIND OF SYNERGIZE WHAT WE DID IN OUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING AND KIND OF COME TO THAT MEETING AND THAT AGENDA ITEM WITH A BIT OF A PLAN. SO I'D LIKE TO VOLUNTOLD, TRUSTEE ZÁRATE AND TRUSTEE HARRISON TO WORK WITH TRUSTEE MARKUM ON DEVELOPING THE WORK AROUND THAT.

AND I PICKED YOU ALL SPECIFICALLY JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ADVOCACY FROM THE TWO OF YOU ALL AT THE CAPITOL THIS YEAR.

AND SO, SHE'S THINKING MAYBE TWO MEETINGS, ONE INDIVIDUALLY WITH TRUSTEES AND THEN MAYBE ONE WITH STAFF KIND OF PLANS.

I MEAN, IF YOU HADN'T TOLD ME, I WOULD HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY, BUT SURE, I'LL DO SO.

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TRUSTEE MARKUM WILL WORK WITH THAT AND TRUST.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, WE WILL HAVE SPRING BREAK.

SO I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A WONDERFUL SPRING BREAK.

YOU STAY SAFE AND ENJOY THE REST.

I KNOW I SAW SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS OF HOW MANY MORE DAYS TEACHERS HAVE TO GO BEFORE THEY GET ANOTHER VACATION DAY.

SO I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A RESTFUL AND WONDERFUL SPRING BREAK AND DR.

AZAIEZ, THANK YOU AGAIN.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT OUR STUDENTS WHO CAME AND TO CELEBRATE WITH US OUR BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

AND I WANT TO ALSO THANK OUR TEACHERS AND OUR LEADERS WHO WERE WITH THEM, TONIGHT AS WELL.

I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AGAIN, WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA.

I MEAN, WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF THEM.

THEY'RE RANKED NUMBER ONE, FULL ORCHESTRA IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH IS REALLY IT'S AN AMAZING THING.

SO AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN JUST LIKE THAT.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OUR STUDENTS, OUR PARENTS, OUR DIRECTORS, OUR LEADERS AT WESTWOOD.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT STARTS ACTUALLY AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO OBVIOUSLY, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL DIRECTORS AND TEACHERS AND STAFF FOR REALLY WORKING WITH THEM.

WE ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW WE HAVE A REPORT FROM CHILDREN AT RISK.

IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF JENNIFER HAVE THAT REPORT.

JENNIFER, IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT, SO THE THIS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

THEY USE A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE ONE THE SAME THING LIKE TEA.

THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT THEY LOOK AT STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT ALSO PROGRESS AND PERFORMANCE GAPS AND THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO RANK THEM, LIKE CENTRAL TEXAS. IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS CENTRAL TEXAS, I THINK, YEAH, HERE WE GO.

AND YOU LOOK AT OUR ELEMENTARY AND, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, WE CAN SEE THAT CACTUS RANCH IS RANKED NUMBER ONE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER TWO, THREE AND FOUR ALL ROUND ROCK ISD CAMPUSES, AND IF YOU LOOK AT TOP TEN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE OF THEM.

SO THAT'S CACTUS RANCH, CANYON CREEK, LAUREL MOUNTAIN, SOMMER ELSA ENGLAND, ALL OF THEM TOP FIVE OUT OF TEN.

SO WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF THEM.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S TESTIMONY OF THE HARD WORK OF OUR TEACHERS, STAFF LEADERS, PARENTS AND STUDENTS.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL NOW AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR CENTRAL TEXAS AND THAT'S AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT'S SURPRISE NUMBER ONE IS ALSO ANOTHER ROUND ROCK ISD CAMPUS.

WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF ALL THE HARD WORK FOR IN ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, BUT IN PARTICULAR HERE, CANYON VISTA RANKED NUMBER ONE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

SO AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT TESTIMONY OF THE HARD WORK.

THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT CEDAR VALLEY'S NUMBER FOUR, AND WALSH MIDDLE SCHOOL IS NUMBER SIX.

SO WE HAVE THREE OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE TOP TEN.

AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLS THAT'S INCLUDING ALL OUR SURROUNDING SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AND ALL CENTRAL TEXAS SCHOOLS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL RANKED NUMBER FIVE.

AND SO BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE LIST, YOU SEE THAT MOST OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE RANKED REALLY HIGH.

AND SO AGAIN, WHERE THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER IT'S WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AMAZING, STUDENTS HAVE AMAZING TEACHERS AND STAFF AND LEADERS AND PARENTS AND COMMUNITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO BE RECOGNIZED BY OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

HAS NO TIES TO ROUND ROCK, NO TIES TO HERE TO CENTRAL TEXAS.

SO IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE THAT.

SO I'M PROUD OF ALL THE HARD WORK.

THE LAST THING IT'S, WE HAVE, NEXT MONDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH, WE HAVE OUR FIRST BIG CONVENTION CONFERENCE, IF YOU WILL, FOR ALL OUR TEACHERS AND WE'RE CALLING IT CONNECT FIVE.

AND WE ARE EXPECTING 3600 TO 3700 OF OUR TEACHERS TO SHOW UP AT KALAHARI, THANKS TO A HUGE DONATION AND GRANT MONEY WE GET FROM THE WD KELLY FOUNDATION.

THEY GIVE US OUR DISTRICT $100,000 AND ALSO TO THE OUR, PI FOUNDATION, [INAUDIBLE] AND HER TEAM FOR REALLY WORKING ALL THESE DETAILS.

BUT I WANT TO ALSO THANK OUR SOME OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO REALLY WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

SO WE WANT TO THE WHOLE GOAL IS FOR OUR TEACHERS TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, TO LIFT THEM UP, TO SHOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM AND RESPECT THEM.

AND THIS WHOLE THING IS REALLY, AGAIN, JUST FOR THEM TO LEARN AND HAVE FUN AND REALLY GET RE-ENERGIZED AGAIN AND CONNECT SO THEY CAN GO BACK TO THEIR SCHOOLS THAT ARE CLASSROOMS WITH EVEN MORE ENERGY, EVEN MORE EXCITEMENT, SO THEY CAN FINISH REALLY STRONG WITH OUR STUDENTS.

BUT THAT'S I HOPE THAT AN INVITE WAS SENT TO ALL OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU THERE AGAIN.

IT'S MONDAY, IT STARTS AT 8:30, BUT BE THERE EARLY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 3600 TO 3700 OF OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF AT, KALAHARI WILL BE A GREAT

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OKAY, I HAVE ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THEN I HAVE TRUSTEE HARRISON ANNOUNCEMENT? JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY AND TRUSTEES KNOW I'M HONORING MY COMMITMENT TO REEVALUATE AFTER 90 DAYS, THE LET'S TALK AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT SYSTEM.

AND THAT WILL BE ON OUR MARCH BOARD MEETING.

SO FAR WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE USING THE LET'S TALK.

FOR THE MOST PART, THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT HAS BEEN ONE OFF TOPICS, EXCEPT FOR ONE.

AND THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED AND RESOLVED THROUGH LET'S TALK, BUT WE'LL HAVE A DETAILED REPORT ABOUT IT THROUGH LET'S TALK.

AND THEN WE CAN ALSO EVALUATE NEXT STEPS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I AM HONORING MY COMMITMENT TO REEVALUATING THAT AFTER 90 DAYS.

SO TRUSTEE HARRISON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEGRITY ON THAT.

PRESIDENT LANDRUM. BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK SOON.

OH, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR THIS PAST SATURDAY.

IT IS THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON.

SO ONCE THE DRAGON, ALWAYS A DRAGON.

GO ROCK. GO! A GREAT YEAR FOR ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I GOT TO ATTEND THE AUSTIN CHINESE AMERICAN NETWORK AWARD CEREMONY AND GIVE OUT AWARDS, AND AT FIRST I INITIALLY SAID YES, I WAS TOLD THESE STUDENTS HAD DONE 500 HOURS OF SERVICE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INCREDIBLE.

THEN I WENT BACK AND READ THE EMAIL.

IT WAS ACTUALLY 5000 HOURS OF SERVICE.

THERE ARE ABOUT 35 STUDENTS THAT RECEIVED AWARDS.

SOME OF THEM WERE INTERNATIONAL AWARDS AND 27 OF THOSE WERE FROM ROUND ROCK ISD.

SO IT'S INCREDIBLE THE PROJECTS THEY WERE DOING WERE OUT OF THIS WORLD.

JUST REALLY HELPING IN BETTERING OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM.

AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT CHINESE NEW YEAR CELEBRATION AS WELL.

[K. CLOSED SESSION (The Board reserves the right to enter into closed session on any agenda item as permitted by the Texas Open Meetings Act, Section 551.071 et seq.)]

MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A POINT OF INQUIRY.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF INQUIRY? ARE THERE ANY TRUSTEES THAT ARE PRESENTING IN ENCLOSED? I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S TRUSTEES NAMES ON TWO OF THEM.

I DON'T NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

THEN I MOVE THAT WE LIMIT CLOSED SESSION ITEMS TO 20 MINUTES EACH.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO LIMIT EACH CLOSED SESSION ITEM TO 20 MINUTES EACH.

THIS ACTUALLY, DOES FALL INTO OUR BOARD.

CONSTRAINT ABOUT NOT SPENDING MORE THAN, AN HOUR OF TIME IN CLOSED, I BELIEVE.

SO THAT DOES TRUSTEE HARRISON.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I AGREE WITH AN HOUR.

IT'S JUST SOME OF THESE I KNOW WILL TAKE LESS AND SOME MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

IS THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY WE COULD GIVE OURSELVES, OR ARE YOU SOLID ON THAT 20 MINUTES EACH? I WAS TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH.

THAT HAS BEEN MY MOTION EVERY TIME THAT WE DO 20 MINUTES EACH AND THEN COME BACK OUT IF WE NEED MORE TIME.

OKAY. I'M FINE COMING BACK OUT [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE CAN COME BACK OUT IF WE NEED MORE TIME.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BONE.

SO THE FIRST TOPIC IS ON SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE REPORT.

AND AS WE SAW JUST LAST MONTH, WE HAD TO COME BACK OUT, GO BACK IN.

IT JUST TAKES MORE TIME.

SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS.

I SAY WE JUST GO IN, GET OUR BUSINESS DONE AND COME BACK OUT.

TRUSTEE WESTON. I JUST FIND IT DISAPPOINTING.

IT APPEARS THAT DEPENDS ON WHO THE TRUSTEES NAME ON THE AGENDA ITEM IS.

IT HAS A DIRECT IMPLICATION ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF TRUSTEE WEIR KNOWS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE US EXERCISING OVERSIGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO PLACE ARBITRARY LIMITS ON THESE THINGS.

SO CLARIFICATION YOUR STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE IS ACTUALLY NOT TRUE.

SHE'S BEEN MAKING 20 MINUTES PER ITEM FOR THE LAST MANY MONTHS, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT A CLARIFICATION ON IT.

THAT POINT OF ORDER THIS HAS BEEN I THOUGHT WE SAID THAT WE WOULDN'T.

YOU HAVEN'T BEEN RECOGNIZED, SO PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I'M STILL SPEAKING ON MY POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SO PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WASN'T CORRECT STATEMENT, BUT GO AHEAD.

TRUSTEE BONE, WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? I THOUGHT WE HAD AMENDED OUR BYLAWS TO STATE THAT WE WOULD NOT CALL SOMEBODY SAYING THAT THEY WERE UNTRUE OR FALSE.

I WAS JUST DOING A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WAS AN INACCURATE STATEMENT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ATTRIBUTE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.

YOU SAID IT WAS UNTRUE, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS AGAINST OUR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. POINT NOTED.

SO IF I COULD CONTINUE.

MY POINT IS THAT ON ITEM I2, FOR TRUSTEE HARRISON, THERE WAS GREAT ENTHUSIASM ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT SHE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT SHE WANTED TO SAY. I HEARD THAT FROM TRUSTEES LANDRUM AND WEIR.

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I'M JUST SAYING THAT, IT GIVES AN APPEARANCE OF BIAS.

AND, AFTER THIS, VOTE, I'VE GOT.

ACTUALLY, A QUESTION ON A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON K2 THAT I'LL BE REQUESTING.

OKAY. AND, THAT'S, I BELIEVE WHY TRUSTEE WEIR ASKED IF ANYONE WAS PRESENTING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN I2 WAS YOU'RE ALLOWED TIME TO PRESENT THE ITEM. AND SO THAT'S, I BELIEVE WHY YOU ASKED TRUSTEE WEIR IT IS.

AND IT'S WHY WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING AN ITEM IN CLOSED, WE GAVE YOU MORE TIME.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE ARE ABOUT.

AND THERE IS A TRUSTEE'S NAME ATTACHED TO THEM.

SO IF NO ONE, IF SOMEONE WAS PRESENTING, I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THAT MOTION.

BUT SINCE NO ONE IS PRESENTING, I MADE MY USUAL MOTION.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF LIMITING TO 20 MINUTES PER ITEM IN CLOSED SESSION.

RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION OR INQUIRY? WHAT IS YOUR POINT? SO IF I HAVE CONCERNS THAT, JUST BECAUSE I WAS INCLUDED ON SOME OF THE EMAILS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS, AND I HAVE HEARD DR. BONE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING RELATED TO POLICE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

I'M NOT DR.

BONE WERE YOU CONSULTED ON THESE, GOVERNMENT CODE CITATIONS HERE AS TO WHY THIS WOULD BE A QUOTE? OR WAS IT YOUR EXPECTATION THIS WOULD BE CLOSED SESSION OR JUST CLARIFICATION? RIGHT. SO MY CLARIFICATION IS I'M CONCERNED THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING K2 IN OPEN SESSION.

AND SO I'M ASKING THE REQUESTER IF THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WHEN SOMEONE REQUESTS AN AGENDA ITEM THEY CAN REQUEST AN AGENDA ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED.

THEY CANNOT REQUEST WHETHER THAT ITEM IS HELD IN OPEN SESSION OR CLOSED SESSION.

THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS WITH ATTORNEYS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT DOES END UP NEEDING TO BE DISCUSSED IN ITEM K TWO THAT IS NOT COVERED BY THESE, 551071076 AND 089, THEN WE WILL COME BACK OUT INTO OPEN TO DISCUSS THEM.

AND SO JUST ACROSS THE BOARD, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS IF YOU REQUEST AN AGENDA ITEM, YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN OR CLOSED.

THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE ATTORNEYS MAKE BASED ON PROTECTING THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT.

OKAY. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.076, THE BOARD WILL REVIEW, DELIBERATE, AND DISCUSS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE REPORT REGARDING THE INTRUDER DETECTION AUDIT FINDINGS.

PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071551 .076551.089 AND AS REQUESTED BY TRUSTEE BONE, THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS, DELIBERATE, AND CONSULT WITH COUNSEL REGARDING ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT MATTERS.

PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074.

THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH COUNSEL CONCERNING TRUSTEE BONES REQUEST IN HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY FOR, QUOTE, ALL COMMUNICATIONS AND WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION, UNQUOTE, TO OR FROM INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES NAMED IN THE STORY VERSUS ROUND ROCK ISD ET AL.

CAUSE NUMBER 1-22-CV 0048-D LAWSUIT QUOTE REGARDING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN REGARDS TO UNQUOTE THE LAWSUIT, INCLUDING ALL COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEIR COUNSEL, THOMPSON AND HORTON LLP.

IT IS 8:34 TRUSTEES.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS, AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN CLOSED SESSION AT 8:50 IN THIS ROOM.

PLEASE TAKE ALL YOUR BELONGINGS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.

[L. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS]

WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE ROUND ROCK ISD SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE REPORT AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON FOR COMMENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER MOTIONS? TRUSTEE WESTON.

YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF DR.

BONE HAS ANY MOTIONS, BUT I HAVE MUCH.

YOU KNOW I UNRESOLVED.

CONCERNS ABOUT DR.

BONE WITH REGARD TO K3 REQUESTING DOCUMENTS PER THE EDUCATION CODE 11 DOT.

1512 AND BEING DENIED THOSE DOCUMENTS BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE HANDS OF SOME TRUSTEES BUT NOT OTHERS.

I BELIEVE THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAW, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU RESOLVE THAT WITHOUT EXPOSING THE DISTRICT TO,

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YEAH, I STILL DON'T I'M SORRY WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR A DISCUSSION.

I NEED A MOTION.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A MOTION, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AFTER THAT.

WELL, I OKAY, I'LL DEFER TO DR.

BONE. SHE'S INDICATED SHE HAS A MOTION.

THE OTHER THING IS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE EXERCISED K2 TONIGHT.

THERE WAS. WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION.

YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON IT.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL WAIT FOR MOTIONS.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I MOVE THAT WE DO NOT WAIVE THE EXCEPTIONS UNDER SECTIONS, 552.103 AND 552.107 OF THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT IN CONNECTION WITH THE OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM TRUSTEE BONE AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND, TRUSTEE WESTON? SO DR. BONE HAS REQUESTED DOCUMENTS PER TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 11.1512, IN HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY, THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT REQUESTED DOCUMENTS BE PROVIDED TO HER.

UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

DOCUMENTS CAN BE WITHHELD, BUT NOT FROM CERTAIN TRUSTEES.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO WITHHOLD THEM FROM ALL OF THE TRUSTEES BECAUSE THE BOARD, AS A BODY CORPORATE IS THE CLIENT.

THE BOARD AS A BODY CORPORATE, HAS RETAINED THE SERVICES OF THOMPSON AND HORTON IN THE LITIGATION LISTED ON K3 OF THE AGENDA.

AND WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SOME TRUSTEES HAVE DOCUMENTS THAT DR.

BONE HAS REQUESTED.

AND NOW TRUSTEE HARRISONS MOTION IS TO WITHHOLD THEM FROM OTHER TRUSTEES.

THIS, IN MY VIEW, IS ENTIRELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAW AND IF IT PASSES, IS A DOUBLING DOWN ON THE BOARD MAJORITY'S FLAGRANT AND FEARLESSNESS OF THE LAW.

AND THIS IS HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC.

AND ALL TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE CONCERNED BECAUSE YOU ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR THIS.

NOW, THE BOARD COULD DO A MOTION, TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO REPRESENT SOME TRUSTEES IN THIS LAWSUIT.

AS INDIVIDUALS, IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY LEGAL FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO REPRESENT INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES IN A LAWSUIT.

THIS BOARD HAS NOT DONE THAT.

SO THERE I'M.

THIS IS HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC.

TRUSTEE BONE.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHY I REQUESTED THIS.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE GET TO SEE THE LEGAL FEES AND WHY WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE LEGAL FEES.

I CAN SAY THAT I SEE CHARGES, THAT ARE MADE IN THESE LEGAL FEES THAT ARE COMING TO THE DISTRICT BEING PAID FOR BY TAXPAYER MONEY.

AND SOME PEOPLE CAN SAY, OH, THIS IS INSURANCE.

WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY THAT THE INSURANCE IS GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE OF THE HAILSTORM.

WELL, INSURANCE GOES UP WHEN WE HAVE LEGAL FEES THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY.

SO THIS IS IMPACTING OUR DISTRICT.

IT'S IMPACTING OUR STUDENTS FINANCES.

AND WE ARE PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD KNOW ABOUT, BUT NOT THE WHOLE BOARD.

AND THIS IS HIGHLY CONCERNING THAT THE BOARD IS ROGUE WHERE THERE'S INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE BOARD PRESIDENT, THAT IS BENEFITING INDIVIDUALLY FROM SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE BOARD IS BEING WITHHELD FROM SEEING.

AND JUST BECAUSE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS DON'T APPEAR TO CARE THAT THERE'S MONEY BEING SPENT OR CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS THAT DO CARE.

AND THESE DOCUMENTS LEGALLY, I FULLY BELIEVE SHOULD BE RELEASED.

AND IT'S SAD THAT THIS BOARD IS DOUBLING DOWN AND WITHHOLDING THEM FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN A BUNCH OF HEARSAY AND PERSONAL OPINIONS, BUT THERE IS NO LEGAL STANDING TO WITHHOLD THESE DOCUMENTS.

IT IS CLEAR FROM 11.5 1512C.

THAT AS A BOARD MEMBER, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE THEM.

TRUSTEE WESTON HAS THE RIGHT TO SEE THEM.

AND JUST BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THEM, THE WHOLE BOARD AS WE KNOW EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE GOT TO SEE THEM.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.

IS THAT TWO MINUTES? I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND, AND I WILL JUST SAY I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS MOTION.

[02:15:01]

AND SO I HAVE A MOTION.

YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR STATEMENT.

AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER TIMES THERE'S NO QUESTIONS.

SO YOU'VE ALREADY USED YOUR TWO MINUTES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED? I THOUGHT I GOT MORE TIME.

NO, I'VE ALREADY CALLED FOR THE VOTE.

ALL OPPOSED? RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION FAILS 5 TO 2.

POINT OF ORDER.

ARE WE RUNNING BY OUR BYLAWS HERE, OR ARE WE JUST RUNNING? I THOUGHT I GOT TWO TIMES.

NO, THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

TWICE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ONCE FOR A STATEMENT.

WE GOT TWO? THAT'S RIGHT.

TWO STATEMENTS. RIGHT.

HAVE YOUR TWO MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR STATEMENT.

WELL, YOU ALREADY VOTED.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, WE ALREADY VOTED, BUT I CAN STILL MAKE THE STATEMENT.

SURE. TWO MINUTES FROM ANOTHER STATEMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

YEAH. THE STATEMENT IS THAT WE'RE ADVERSARIAL TO THE DISTRICT AND WE'VE NEVER ASKED, YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING? I'VE NEVER HAD TO ASK THIS WAY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THREE SETTING BOARD MEMBERS ATTEMPTING TO HIDE THINGS FROM THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT MAKE ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE NOT BASED ON FACT.

WELL, YOU MADE ACCUSATIONS THAT WERE NOT BASED ON FACT.

NO. YOU SAID EVERYTHING I SAID WAS 100%.

NO, IT WAS NOT. YOU SAID THAT I FILED, THAT I WAS ADVERSARIAL TO THE DISTRICT BECAUSE I GAVE AN AFFIDAVIT.

THAT AFFIDAVIT IS NOT ADVERSARIAL.

THAT AFFIDAVIT IS REQUIRED.

IF THE LEGAL PEOPLE COME TO YOU AND THEY SAY YOU, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE FACTS, I GAVE THEM FACTS.

IT'S NOT ADVERSARIAL. THERE'S NO FACTS IN THERE THAT ARE ADVERSARIAL.

FACTS ARE NOT ADVERSARIAL.

AND IF THEY ARE, THEN MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE FACTS AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

AND NOBODY HAS OFFICIALLY.

I MEAN, IF YOU THINK THEY'RE ADVERSARIAL, THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

BUT YOU'VE ALSO NOT DONE THAT.

SO TO SET UP HERE AND SAY THEY'RE ADVERSARIAL IS OPINION.

IT'S NOT FACT.

SO IF YOU NEED TO GO TO THE DEFINITION IN THE DICTIONARY AND SEE WHAT OPINION AND FACT IS, THAT WAS AN OPINION.

TRUSTEE BONE PLEASE USE DECORUM ON THE DAIS.

YOU KNOW, AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, YOU SAID AND CALLED TRUSTEE WESTON AND I ADVERSARIAL TO THE DISTRICT.

YOU WERE NOT USING DECORUM, AND THEN YOU EXPECT US TO USE DECORUM, AND THEN YOU KEEP OVERWRITING, YOU KEEP INTERRUPTING ME, WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF OUR BYLAWS.

NOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO INTERRUPT TRUSTEES.

SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN.

I MEAN, MY TWO MINUTES STILL HASN'T STARTED BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT KEEPS INTERRUPTING ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND I WOULD LIKE MY CONTINUOUS TWO MINUTES.

POINT OF ORDER. BEING INTERRUPTED YET AGAIN.

MY POINT.

IS A POINT OF ORDER INTERRUPTING SOMEONE? NO. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CALL FOR A POINT OF ORDER.

YEAH, WELL, THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT DOING A POINT OF ORDER.

SHE WAS JUST LITERALLY INTERRUPTING ME.

POINT OF ORDER. DIDN'T YOU SAY POINT OF ORDER? YES, I DID, OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[INAUDIBLE].

YOU KEEP.

YOU HAVE YOUR TWO MINUTES.

KNOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DIVE INTO HERE IS THE FACT THAT YOU ALSO MADE THE STATEMENT THAT WE NEVER I'VE NEVER ASKED FOR THIS MUCH DETAIL IN ANOTHER CASE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS NOT TRUE. I HAVE ASKED FOR DETAIL, BUT I WAS GIVEN IT.

BECAUSE LEGALLY, THE LAWYERS HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO BECAUSE YOU CANNOT HAVE TRUSTEES SITTING ON THIS DAIS THAT HAVE INFORMATION AND ARE SPENDING MONEY IN THIS DISTRICT WITHOUT OTHER TRUSTEES KNOWING ABOUT IT.

THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS.

IT'S NOT LEGAL.

AND JUST BECAUSE THERE'S TWO TRUSTEES UP HERE THAT WANT TO GO ALONG WITH IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE WHOLE BOARD GETS AWAY WITH NOT DOING THE LAW.

TWO TRUSTEES UP HERE, DANIELLE AND I ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO THESE DOCUMENTS.

MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

AND JUST BECAUSE THREE OF YOU ARE GETTING FAVORS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WHERE HE CAN SPEND MONEY, THAT'S AN ACCUSATION NOT BASED.

YOU DIDN'T DO A POINT OF ORDER AND YOU JUST INTERRUPTED ME AGAIN.

POINT OF ORDER. TWO MINUTES.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT? WELL, I DID NOT GET ALL MY TIME BECAUSE SHE INTERRUPTED ME.

SECONDS WHEN I RESOLVED THIS POINT OF ORDER.

NO, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S.

TRUSTEE HARRISON HAS A POINT OF ORDER ON THE FLOOR.

THEN YOU HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL SECONDS.

GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE HARRISON.

I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER BECAUSE SHE JUST KEPT INTERRUPTING.

IT'S FINE. OKAY, YOU HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL SECONDS.

TRUSTEE BONE. THE FAVORS THAT ARE BEEN GIVEN ON THIS BOARD ARE APPALLING AND THEY HURT THE CHILDREN OF THIS DISTRICT, WHICH I CARE DEARLY ABOUT. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO JUSTIFY THAT WITH A RESPONSE.

THERE'S NO OTHER MOTIONS ON THE TABLE.

DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? TRUSTEE BONE? YES. I HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO RELEASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION AND RELATED DOCUMENTS TO THE PUBLIC, WITH ANY PERSONNEL REDACTIONS NEEDED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE.

[02:20:09]

SO WHEN TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE SPENT TO, HIRE AN INVESTIGATOR TO LOOK INTO, EVENTS ON A LARGE SCALE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN THAT.

AND THAT'S MONEY THAT WILL NEVER GO TO A CHILD'S CLASSROOM TO HELP THEM LEARN TO READ.

IT WILL NEVER GO, TO A 15 YEAR OLD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT'S CLASSROOM TO HELP THEM BECOME COLLEGE AND CAREER MILITARY READY.

WHEN THOSE RESOURCES ARE INSTEAD DIVERTED, TO PERFORM THIS TYPE OF AN INVESTIGATION OF THIS SCALE.

THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH APPROPRIATE REDACTIONS, AS DR.

BONE SAYS.

AND I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT THIS ENDEAVOR WAS UNDERWAY WITHOUT THE BOARD KNOWING ABOUT IT.

AND, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THIS VERY LENGTHY DOCUMENT.

AND I BELIEVE, GIVEN THE SENSITIVITY AND BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT ON 47,000 STUDENTS AND THE SCALE OF WHAT THIS INVESTIGATION WAS ABOUT, I BELIEVE THAT OUR TAXPAYERS WHO PAID FOR THIS HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE IT AND HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN ROUND ROCK ISD AND IF THIS BOARD VOTES NOT TO.

I BELIEVE IN MY OPINION, THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD TAKE THAT AS A SIGN THAT THIS BOARD WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS THE LAST TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN ROUND ROCK ISD.

TRUSTEE BONE? YES. THE REASON I BRING THIS FORWARD IS THAT I THINK ALMOST EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FAIRLY NEWLY FORMED.

STILL, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON SAID ON A LARGE SCALE IS A PUBLIC HIGH PUBLIC INTEREST.

AND FOR TRANSPARENCY'S SAKE, I BELIEVE OUR COMMUNITY HAS THE RIGHT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A WHOLE SCALE.

UNDER AN INVESTIGATION THAT WAS FUNDED BY THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THAT IMPACTS THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT OUR DISTRICT.

AND THAT IS THE POISON.

YOU GIVE THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION.

IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO SIT UP HERE AND DECIDE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO THINK.

THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE GIVEN INFORMATION THAT THEY PAID FOR WITH THEIR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS, AND THEN GAVE TO US TO BE STEWARDS OF.

AND WE SHOULD BE VERY TRANSPARENT.

AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO RELEASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION, THEN I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, MAYBE WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, SOME KIND OF EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OR EXECUTIVE BRIEFING.

BECAUSE AS I STATED TO MY COLLEAGUES, THIS DID NOT COME FROM INSIDE THE DISTRICT.

THIS IS ALREADY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY HAS BROAD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS GOING ON, AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME RANDOMLY AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND THE COMMUNITY THAT DOES NOT BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY THINKS WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS DAIS WITHOUT HAVING TO REQUEST IT FOR MONTHS AND FINALLY GET THE DOCUMENTATION.

WHEN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALREADY KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE FILED BY THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEY ASSUME THAT THE BOARD IS OVERSIGHTING THE DISTRICT. SO I WOULD ASK FOR THIS.

OR IF YOU ALL DON'T WANT THIS MOTION, I WOULD ASK THAT WE DO SOME KIND OF EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

THANK YOU. YOUR TWO MINUTES.

I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE ANY DECISION ON I MOVE TO TABLE ANY DECISION ON THE RELEASE OF AN INVESTIGATION UNTIL THIS CAN BE RE-AGENDA.

AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.

AND HOW THE IMPACT WOULD THIS BE OF RELEASING THIS REPORT WITH RELATES TO PERSONNEL AND PRIVACY LAWS? AND UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE DID NOT DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION ANYTHING ABOUT RELEASING THIS, AND I NEED SOME ADDITIONAL LEGAL ADVICE BEFORE I CAN VOTE ON IT.

SO MY MOTION IS TO TABLE ANY DECISION ON RELEASING THIS UNTIL THIS CAN BE RE-AGENDA TO DISCUSS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON RELEASING A REPORT.

SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO VOTE.

DO WE WANT TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YOU'RE NOT VOTING YES OR NO.

WE'RE JUST DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER IT ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2.

NOW YOU'RE VOTING TO TABLE ANY DECISION ABOUT RELEASING THE INVESTIGATION UNTIL IT CAN BE RE-AGENDA FOR A DISCUSSION TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE.

[02:25:10]

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE, TWO.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S NO DECISION TONIGHT ON WHETHER WE RELEASE THAT INVESTIGATION OR NOT.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? I HAVE NO OTHER MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED.

IT IS 10:08 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.