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          >> IT IS 5:30 ON THURSDAY, MAY THE 4TH. 
          MAY THE FOURTH BE WITH YOU, 2023. 
          [Budget Meetings on May 4, 2023.]
I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES BUDGET WORKSHOP TO ORDER. 
          PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. 
          WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TONIGHT, SO I WILL READ OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS SPEECH. 
          AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. 
          WE ASK THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. 
          SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES. 
          THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS. 
          AS AN ADDITIONAL REMINDER, THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ANTI HATE RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022, WHERE THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE, OR POLITICAL BELIEFS AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. 
          PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED. 
          PER TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, AND 42.05, AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105. 
          NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANOTHER SPEAKER OR PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON. 
          THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. 
          IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE MORE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER AN INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. 
          THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF ITS SPEAKERS. 
          PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER. 
          OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JILL FERRIS, SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM D1, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. 
          >> WHEN ROUND ROCK ISD VOTED TO OPEN OUR SCHOOLS TO OTHER DISTRICT TRANSFERS, WE WERE PROMISED TRANSPARENCY AND EVALUATION OF THE DATA BEFORE THE PROGRAM WAS EXTENDED. 
          BUT THE BOARD NEVER DISCUSSED IT, AND THE DISTRICT HAS ADDED MORE SCHOOLS ONTO THE LIST. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW OPEN ENROLLMENT IS AFFECTING OUR CLASS SIZES. 
          [INAUDIBLE] CLASSES ARE ALL AT 23 OR 24 STUDENTS. 
          THE KINDERGARTEN CLASSES AT ELSA ENGLAND ALL HAVE 25 OR 26 STUDENTS. 
          WHY IS OUR DISTRICT REQUESTING CLASS SIZE WAIVERS FROM TEA? WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CLASS SIZES THIS BIG AND ALSO OPENING OUR DISTRICT UP FOR TRANSFERS? IT'S UNFAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS, IT'S UNFAIR TO THE STUDENTS, AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY ABUSIVE TO THE TEACHERS. 
          I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO KNOW HOW OPEN ENROLLMENT IS AFFECTING OUR CAMPUS UTILIZATION NUMBERS. 
          THE WASH CAMPUS IS STILL COVERED IN PORTABLES, BUT IT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE OPEN FOR TRANSFER LIST. 
          IS THE DISTRICT NOTIFYING PARENTS THAT THEIR HOME CAMPUSES ARE NOW OPEN FOR TRANSFERS? WHY DO WE STILL HAVE OUR KIDS IN PORTABLES, IF THE CAMPUS HAS ROOM FOR MORE STUDENTS? WE KEEP ACTING LIKE OPEN ENROLLMENT IS GOING TO BE THIS BIG LIFESAVER FOR THE DISTRICT, BUT IT'S A SHORT-TERM FIX FOR A LONG-TERM PROBLEM. 
          OUR SCHOOLS ARE STILL FAILING OUR STUDENTS. 
          OUR THIRD GRADERS CAN'T READ OR DO MATH, OUR SENIORS AREN'T COLLEGE READY. 
          OPENING OUR HIGH SCHOOLS TO OTHER DISTRICT TRANSFERS IS GOING TO CREATE ENDLESS NIGHTMARES FOR EXTRA CURRICULARS. 
          IS ROUND ROCK ISD GOING TO HELP ALL OF THESE OUT OF DISTRICT STUDENTS APPLY FOR UIL WAIVERS? BUT WHAT I REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY IT'S OKAY FOR ROUND ROCK ISD TO TAKE THESE STUDENTS FROM SURROUNDING DISTRICTS. 
          WERE STEALING STUDENTS FROM LEANDER AND AUSTIN AND GEORGETOWN. 
          THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE EVERY FAMILY DESERVES THE RIGHT TO FIND THE SCHOOL THAT BEST SUITS THEIR NEEDS. 
          BUT WAIT, ROUND ROCK IS AGAINST SCHOOL CHOICE. 
          YOU ALL JUST PASSED THAT TASBY RESOLUTION TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          PLEASE TELL ME AGAIN WHY IT'S OKAY FOR ROUND ROCK TO TAKE MONEY FROM OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT IT'S NOT OKAY FOR ME TO TAKE THAT SAME MONEY TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL OR DO A HOME-SCHOOL, OR JUST START NEIGHBORHOOD POD? I GUESS EVERY CHILD DESERVES A SCHOOL THAT FITS THEIR NEEDS AS LONG AS IT'S ALL PART OF THE BIG EDUCATION [INAUDIBLE]. 
          I KNOW THAT OUR DISTRICTS FAVORITE THING TO DO IS TO POINT AT THE STATE CAPITAL AND BLAME ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS ON A LACK OF FUNDING. 
          BUT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN OUR STATE THAT DO MORE WITH LESS. 
          ROUND ROCK ISD HAS A BUDGETING PROBLEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. 
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          >> WE HAVE A PRIORITY PROBLEM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY PROBLEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KIM USI SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM D1, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT AND WORK FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          >> I DO WORK FOR THE DISTRICT. I'M A LIBRARY ASSISTANT AT CHRISTIAN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND I'M A PARENT. 
          >> WONDERFUL. CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU'RE RIGHT UP TO THE MIC SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> AS YOU DISCUSS THE OPTIONS FOR THE 2023/24 COMPENSATION PLANS TONIGHT, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF ONGOING LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT MAY RESULT IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STATE BUDGET AND RAISING THE BASIC ALLOTMENT. 
          I MUST URGE YOU TO CONSIDER EVERY POSSIBLE WAY TO RECOVER THE RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDING NEEDED TO REINSTATE THE LIBRARY ASSISTANT POSITIONS AT EVERY CAMPUS IN THE DISTRICT. 
          THE DISTRICT HAS MAINTAINED THAT NO EMPLOYEE IS LOSING THEIR JOB AS THEY ELIMINATE POSITIONS. 
          THAT LIBRARY ASSISTANTS WILL BE OFFERED OTHER SUPPORTS POSITIONS ELSEWHERE. 
          BUT EMPLOYMENT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THE POSITIONS THEMSELVES. 
          CUTTING LIBRARY ASSISTANTS, WHETHER TO HALFTIME OR ENTIRELY, WILL CUT LIBRARY SERVICES. 
          THE INNUMERABLE DUTIES OF THE LIBRARY ASSISTANTS ARE NOT ELIMINATED WHEN THE POSITION IS ELIMINATED, INSTEAD, OUR LIBRARIANS WILL HAVE DOUBLED THE DUTIES. 
          THE CLERK LIKE AND STUDENT-FACING DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE ASSISTANT ROLE AND THE INSTRUCTIONAL, TECHNOLOGICAL, AND LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE LIBRARIAN ROLE. 
          STUDENT ACCESS WILL BE DRASTICALLY CURTAILED. 
          STAFF SUPPORT WILL BE IMPACTED. 
          FRANKLY, AS A LIBRARY ASSISTANT WHO HAS PROVIDED MORE THAN 300 HOURS OF CLASSROOM COVERAGE AND TEST ADMINISTRATION LAST YEAR AND THIS, I CAN TESTIFY THAT OUR ONGOING EDUCATOR SHORTAGE WILL BE EXACERBATED AS WELL. 
          IN SHORT, OUR SCHOOLS AND STUDENTS WILL SUFFER. 
          THE DISTRICT HAS ALREADY RECONSIDERED THIS SHORT-SIDED DECISION TO SOME EXTENT, ANNOUNCING THAT LARGE AND TITLE 1 ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUSES WILL RETAIN A HALF-TIME ASSISTANT. 
          BUT EVEN WITH HALF-TIME ASSISTANCE AT THOSE SCHOOLS, MORE THAN 20,000 OF OUR STUDENTS WILL BE ON A CAMPUS WITH NO ASSISTANT WHO MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR THEIR LIBRARY TO SERVE THEM IN FULL CAPACITY. 
          THE LIBRARY DOORS WILL TOO OFTEN BE CLOSED AND EVERY STUDENT IN OUR DISTRICT DESERVES EQUITABLE ACCESS TO A FULL EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. 
          YOUR WORK TO RECOVER THE FUNDING TO RESTORE LIBRARY SERVICES WILL ENABLE US TO RETAIN THAT ACCESS, THAT EQUITY, AND THE SUPERIOR EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT THAT MAKES ROUND ROCK ISD GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE ONE CALL-IN SPEAKER, SO WE'LL LISTEN TO THAT MESSAGE NOW. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. I'M NELL HOUSER AND I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE BUDGET REGARDING THE REINSTATEMENT OF PART-TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANTS. 
          I AM A CURRENT PART-TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANT AT ONE OF THE 10 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT FALL INTO NO MAN'S LAND. 
          WE ARE ON TITLE 1 AND WE DON'T HAVE 650 STUDENTS THUS, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WE WILL NOT HAVE A LIBRARY ASSISTANT NEXT YEAR. 
          HOW IS THIS EQUITABLE? HOW ARE OUR STUDENTS ANY LESS WORTHY OF A QUALITY LIBRARY PROGRAM? AT MY SCHOOL, STUDENTS SENT TO THE LIBRARY NEXT YEAR TO CHECK OUT BOOKS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABSENT OR PERHAPS THEY FORGOT THEIR BOOKS AT THEIR APPOINTED LIBRARY TIME, WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO CHECK OUT BOOKS IF THE LIBRARIAN IS TEACHING AND THERE'S NO LIBRARY ASSISTANT. 
          TEACHERS WILL BE TASKED WITH CHECKING IN BOOKS AND HELPING WITH SHELVING. 
          WE SEE APPROXIMATELY 130 STUDENTS PER DAY AND CIRCULATE AN AVERAGE OF 500 BOOKS A DAY. 
          THAT MEANS 500 BOOKS IN AND 500 BOOKS GOING OUT. 
          WE PART-TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANTS WORK HARD EVERY DAY TO SUPPORT OUR HARDWORKING DEDICATED LIBRARIANS SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE QUALITY ENRICHMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS WHO GET TO EXPERIENCE ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THE LIBRARY HAS TO OFFER FROM BOOKS TO ACTIVITIES AND SOMETIMES JUST DISCUSSING WRESTLING WITH A STUDENT WHO LOVES FRIDAY NIGHTS SMACK DOWN. 
          PLEASE REINSTATE THE PART-TIME LIBRARY ASSISTANT AT THE SCHOOL WHO FELL INTO THE GAP BETWEEN TITLE 1 AND FEWER THAN 650 STUDENTS THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. 
          PLEASE KEEP THE LIBRARY EQUITABLE FOR ALL ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS. THANK YOU. 
          >> THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM D1, THE 2023/2024 PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDES EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND COMPENSATION PLAN OPTIONS, AS WELL AS ENROLLMENT. 
          I DO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO SAY THAT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION RESULTED IN A AGENDA REQUEST FROM BOTH TRUSTEES BONE, WESTON, AND LANDRUM, AND AS THE TYPICAL PRACTICE WHEN THERE'S MORE THAN TWO TRUSTEES THAT HAVE REQUESTED AN AGENDA ITEM, THEIR NAME DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA SO THIS DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THAT PORTION OF THAT AGENDA REQUEST AS WELL. 
          I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR. AZAIEZ TO START OUR PRESENTATION. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
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THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS WITH OUR PRESIDENT SO WITH US IS THE WHOLE TEAM HERE WITH US, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST LET EDDY START INTRODUCING EVERYONE, BUT I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO COVER. 
          WE WILL TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEE BENEFIT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMPENSATION. 
          THAT'LL BE EDDY AND HIS TEAM. 
          THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT AND THEN WE'LL FINISH WITH THE PRESENTATION WITH OUR CFO MR. DENNIS, SO EDDY. 
          >> THANK YOU, DR. AZAIEZ. GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M SORRY. PRESENT LANDRUM, TRUSTEES, DR. AZAIEZ, I GUESS I'M OUT OF PRACTICE. 
          I WANTED TO INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS WHO ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. 
          I HAVE AARON AND TODD, AND THEY'RE WITH MARSH MCLENNAN AGENCY. 
          MARSH MCLENNAN AGENCY HAS A FULL-SERVICE INSURANCE RETIREMENT AND RISK MANAGEMENT FIRM SPECIALIZING IN PROVIDING SOLUTIONS FOR ORGANIZATIONS DEALING WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND COMMERCIAL INSURANCE. 
          MMA PROVIDES CLIENTS WITH ACCESS TO LOCAL SERVICE REGIONAL EXPERTISE IN GLOBAL RESOURCES. 
          WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH MMA SINCE 2013 AS A DISTRICT SO WE HAVE A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB OF HELPING US NAVIGATE ALL THE COMPLEXITIES THAT WE DEAL WITH WITH HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WAS REALLY BROUGHT TO LIGHT DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN THINGS CHANGED A LOT FOR ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SO WE'RE REALLY GLAD OF THAT PARTNERSHIP. 
          THE AUSTIN MMA GROUP ALSO WORKS WITH SEVERAL OTHER LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE LEANDER ISD, PFLUGERVILLE ISD, AND DEL VALLE ISD. 
          TODD PATCH AND AARON ROMAN LEAD THE STRATEGIC TEAM WORKING DIRECTLY WITH OUR HUMAN RESOURCE SERVICES AND FINANCE DEPARTMENTS. 
          TODD AD AARON BOTH HAVE OVER 25 YEARS OF INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE WITH A PRIMARY FOCUS TO ASSIST LARGE SELF-FUNDED EMPLOYERS. 
          INCIDENTALLY, AARON ATTENDED ROUND ROCK ISD SCHOOLS FROM KINDER THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND SHE GRADUATED FROM WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL ABOUT FIVE, 10 YEARS AGO, AND SHE LET ME KNOW THAT IT WAS HER DREAM WHEN SHE GRADUATED TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 
          WE'RE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT DREAM FOR HER TONIGHT. 
          SITTING BESIDE ME IS A GOOD COLLEAGUE OF MINE WHO YOU'VE MET BEFORE, CHRISTINE GRAVES, SHE IS OUR DIRECTOR OF TOTAL REWARDS AND CHRISTINE OVERSEES OUR COMPENSATION FUNCTION AND HUMAN RESOURCE SERVICES, BUT ALSO OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND WELLNESS. 
          CHRISTINE DID NOT GRADUATE FROM ROUND ROCK ISD SCHOOLS, BUT SHE GOT HERE AS SOON AS SHE COULD. TODD NOW. 
          >> THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY. 
          I WAS GOING TO GET AROUND THAT. 
          THAT'S WHY AARON IS SMARTER THAN ME, BUT THAT WOULD MAYBE A FAN OF CHRISTINE. 
          WELL, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU. 
          I REALLY WISH THAT WE HAD A LOT BETTER NEWS TO SHARE WITH YOU. 
          WE WERE HERE A YEAR AGO AND DIDN'T HAVE GREAT NEWS AND HOW THE HEALTH PLAN WAS RUNNING AND THINGS HAVE GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE SO THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE. 
          WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSE WITH YOUR TEAM TO PUT STRATEGIES IN PLACE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHAT THE PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE BEING SELF-FUNDED VERSUS FULLY INSURED VERSUS A POSSIBLE TRS OPTION. 
          TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN LAUNCH INTO THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE WE LAST MET. 
          THEN ALSO SOME DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN 2023 AND A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR 2024, WHICH HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED AT ALL. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOUR GROUP HERE HAS PUT A LOT OF HOURS AND EFFORT ALONG WITH US LOOKING AT EVERY POSSIBILITIES TO KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND KEEP COSTS UNDER CONTROL SO TURN IT OVER TO AARON. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. 
          WE WANT JUST TO START OFF. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL NEW BOARD MEMBERS STARTING OFF WITH JUST LEVEL SET SLIDES. 
          ROUND ROCK'S HEALTH PLAN IS SELF-FUNDED, MEANING THAT YOU DO PAY BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD TO BE YOUR CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THEY ADMINISTER AND PROCESS CLAIMS. BUT THE ACTUAL PAYMENT OF THOSE CLAIMS, THE DOLLAR PAYING THOSE PROVIDERS OR HOSPITALS IS COMING DIRECTLY OUT OF ROUND ROCK ISD'S FUND. 
          >> CAN I ASK YOU TO SCOOT UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. 
          >> THE DOLLARS COME DIRECTLY FROM ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE PLANS SOME PEOPLE ARE USED TO. 
          THEY'RE FULLY INSURED WHERE YOU HAVE A SET PREMIUM THAT YOU PAY EVERY SINGLE MONTH. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          COST DOES FLUCTUATE WITH ROUND ROCK'S PLAN BASED ON CLAIMS UTILIZATION. 
          WHEN THERE IS A SURPLUS, THAT SURPLUS STAYS WITH THE DISTRICT. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN SURPLUSES IN PRIOR YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU'LL SEE FURTHER ALONG IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN AS MANY SURPLUSES AS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN SO THERE'S ALSO DEFICITS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. 
          THOUGH THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THOSE CLAIMS, 
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EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED, STILL HAVE TO COME FROM THE DISTRICTS, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. 
          WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION IS HOW DO WE FIND MORE DOLLARS TO HELP SUPPORT THE HEALTH PLAN SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THE DEFICIT SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN TODAY. 
          I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAST BULLET POINT HIGH LEVEL. 
          BUT TODD MENTIONED, SO WE'LL SEE SOME CLAIMS EXPERIENCE AND TREND GRAPHS. 
          BUT HISTORICALLY THE PLAN HAS RAN BETTER THAN EXPECTED UNTIL ABOUT 2020 AND THAT'S WHEN COVID HIT DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN, INFLATION [LAUGHTER] STARTED TO RISE AND WE DID SEE THAT CLAIMS TREND GROW HIGHER THAN WE HAD SEEN IN YEARS PAST. 
          YOU CAN SEE WE WERE OUT HERE A YEAR AGO, LAST YEAR. 
          WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEFICIT AND WE HAD A FORECASTED NUMBER. 
          LITERALLY, THE FOLLOWING REPORT THAT CAME OUT SHOWED THE APRIL NUMBERS STARTED TO CLIMB AND FROM THERE THEY CONTINUED TO CLIMB FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND SO THOSE FORECAST NUMBERS WERE UNDERSTATED BECAUSE THE LAST HALF OF THE YEAR FOR ROUND ROCK RAN SO MUCH MORE THAN EXPECTED. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, JUST TREND LEVELS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST AND TREND LEVELS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN MARKET. 
          YOU MIGHT ASK IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FLUCTUATIONS AND COST AND TREND, WHY ARE WE SELF-FUNDED? THERE ARE BENEFITS OF BEING SELF-FUNDED, ALL-IN-ALL OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD, YOU'RE BETTER OFF BEING SELF-FUNDED THEM FULLY INSURED. 
          NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 YEARS YOU'RE BETTER OFF BEING SELF-FUNDED. 
          THE REASON, EVEN THOUGH WHEN YOU'RE FULLY INSURED, YOU'RE PAYING A CONSISTENT PREMIUM EVERY MONTH. 
          THAT PREMIUM IS BASED ON YOUR CLAIMS HISTORY. 
          THE NEXT YEAR WHEN YOUR RENEWAL COMES AROUND, THAT INSURANCE CARRIER IS GOING TO FACTOR IN YOUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE INTO YOUR FULLY INSURED PREMIUMS. YOU MAY IF YOU'RE FULLY INSURED, YOU MAY NOT BE PAYING FOR THOSE CLAIMS TODAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THEM TOMORROW. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING FULLY ARE SELF-FUNDED IF YOUR CLAIMS DO TURN AROUND. 
          YOU'VE HAD THAT HIGH CLAIMS TREND. 
          IF TREND DOES START TO COME DOWN AND A FULLY INSURED MODEL, YOU DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT DOWNWARD TREND. 
          THEY JUST EXPECT CLAIMS TO GO UP AND THEY SET YOUR PREMIUM THAT WAY. 
          THAT IS A BENEFIT JUST YEAR-OVER-YEAR. 
          YOU TEND TO SPEND LESS WHEN YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED. 
          YOU DO HAVE STOP-LOSS INSURANCE THAT COVERS INDIVIDUAL LARGE CLAIMS. WE HAVE SEEN ON THE PLAN MILLION-DOLLAR CLAIMS. RIGHT NOW THE STOP-LOSS LEVEL IS SET AT 500,000. 
          THE DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING UP TO $500,000 FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL AFTER THAT, INSURANCE PICKS UP THE REMAINDER FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          YOU DO HAVE A STOP GAP FOR THOSE LARGE CLAIMS. YOU ALSO SEE WITH SELF-FUNDED PLANS, YOU SEE MORE STABILITY WITH YOUR PLANS. 
          ROUND ROCK HAS BEEN WITH BLUE CROSS FOR MANY YEARS. 
          THEY HAVE GONE OUT TO BID PERIODICALLY. 
          BUT JUST HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. 
          EPSTEIN WITH BLUE CROSS, IN A FULLY INSURED WORLD, WHAT WE SAY IS YOU'RE USUALLY CHASING RATES. 
          YOU TEND TO SEE FULLY INSURED PLANS MOVE FROM CARRIER TO CARRIER MORE OFTEN AND YOU LOSE THAT NETWORK PLANS STABILITY. 
          SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE FULLY INSURED. 
          ALSO WITH A SELF-FUNDED PLAN, YOU HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT YOUR PLANS LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE PLAN DESIGNS ARE, WHAT NETWORKS YOU HAVE. 
          BUT YOU ALSO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE COST. 
          HOW MUCH DO WE FIND? HOW MUCH IS THE EMPLOYEES COST GOING TO BE? IF YOU DO HAVE THE SURPLUSES FROM YEAR TO YEAR, CAN WE USE THOSE TO HELP OFFSET SOME FUTURE COST? YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW YOU FUND THE PLAN AND HOW MUCH YOU FUND THE PLAN. 
          THERE'S ALSO THE ABILITY WHEN YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED TO IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT TRYING TO BUY HEALTH CARE MORE EFFICIENTLY A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS BUILT INTO YOUR PLAN TO HELP TRY TO CONTROL COST. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH A FULLY INSURED PLAN NECESSARILY. 
          TODAY YOU HAVE CARVED OUT YOUR PHARMACY PLANS. 
          IT'S NOT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD. 
          IT'S WITH A VENDOR CALLED RX BENEFITS THROUGH EXPRESS SCRIPTS. 
          WE CAN BUILD AND MONITOR AND AUDIT THAT PLAN TO HELP CONTROL COSTS ON THE PHARMACY SIDE. 
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THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT'S IN YOUR PLAN TODAY CALLED SURGERY PLUS FOR OUTPATIENT PROCEDURES TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE OUTPATIENT SPEND THAT WE SEE GOING THROUGH A BIG NATIONAL NETWORK WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME DISCOUNTS. 
          THEN ALSO ENHANCED WELLNESS PROGRAMS. I KNOW A HUGE FOCUS OF THE HR TEAM TODAY IS GETTING YOU OFF THE GROUND. 
          KRISTEN SMILING BECAUSE SHE'S HAD A BIG PART OF THAT. 
          BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO ENHANCE SOME OF THOSE WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO YOUR MEDICAL PLAN WHEN YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED. 
          THERE'S JUST, YOU CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE WITH YOUR PLAN OFFERING AND ALSO WHAT'S INVOLVED WITHIN YOUR PLAN. 
          AS TODD MENTIONED, ACTUALLY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS. 
          I WON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON THIS SLIDE. 
          BUT AS WE SAID, YOU'RE SELF-FUNDED TODAY. 
          YOU HAVE ROUND ROCK ISD IN YOUR PLAN. 
          ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AGAIN, YOUR COST IS DIRECTLY BASED ON YOUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE. 
          THAT IS THE BULK OF YOUR COST TODAY. 
          YOU'LL SEE ON THE FULLY INSURED PLAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRID, THE PREMIUM IS ALSO BASED ON YOUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE IN HISTORY. 
          AGAIN, YOU MAY NOT SEE IT TODAY, BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT FACTORED IN AT YOUR NEXT RENEWAL PAYING FOR THOSE CLAIMS. ANY EXCESSES DO STAY WITH THE INSURANCE CARRIER IF YOU'RE FULLY INSURED. 
          YOU DON'T GET ANY MONEY BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF YOU'RE PLANNING RUNS BETTER THAN EXPECTED, THAT JUST STAYS WITH THE CARRIER. 
          YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR PLANS WITH SOME LIMITATIONS. 
          IT HAS TO FIT WITHIN THAT CARRIER MOLD AND WHAT THEIR SYSTEMS ARE ABLE TO ADJUDICATE AND PROCESS. 
          THE OTHER OPTION, WHICH WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IS ALSO TRS. 
          TRS ACTIVE CARE DOES HAVE A HEALTH PLAN OPTION FOR TEXAS DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE IN. 
          IT RUNS SIMILAR TO A FULLY INSURED MODEL IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ROUND ROCK ISD PERSPECTIVE, IN THAT TRS ESSENTIALLY SETS THE PREMIUMS EACH YEAR BASED ON HOW THE PLAN IS RUNNING. 
          YOUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE OF THE ENTIRE TRS POOL. 
          THE ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCES IS THAT THERE IS STATE FUNDING INTO THE TRS SYSTEM. 
          I'M SURE THAT YOU'VE ALL HEARD THE TRS HAS DEFICITS YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          THE STATE DOES HELP SUBSIDIZE THOSE DEFICITS. 
          THAT'S THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES THERE, HELPING FUND THAT PLAN. 
          YOU DO LOSE IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF TRS, YOU DO LOSE THAT CONTROL AND THAT FLEXIBILITY. 
          YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHAT CARRIER WITH. 
          YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHAT PLAN DESIGNS YOU HAVE AND CAN OFFER YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          TRS HAS ALSO GONE TO A REGIONAL PRICING MODEL VERSUS ONE COST FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. 
          WE DO KNOW AUSTIN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE COMPETITIVE HOSPITAL SYSTEM. 
          IT'S GETTING BETTER. 
          WE'RE GETTING MORE HOSPITALS MOVE INTO THE AREA. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY HOSPITAL SYSTEMS AS DALLAS OR HOUSTON. 
          OUR HEALTHCARE IS GENERALLY MORE EXPENSIVE IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND IT IS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE. 
          THE NEW REGIONAL PRICING DOES REFLECT THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TO FACTOR IN. 
          WITH TRS, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER, AGAIN, THEY SET YOUR PRICE. 
          IT'S EVERY 12 MONTHS YOU GET WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE AND THEN AS A DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, HOW MUCH AM I GOING TO FUND AND THEN HOW MUCH AM I GOING TO CHARGE THE EMPLOYEES FOR THAT? SHOULD I PAUSE THERE? 
          >> WE THOUGHT WE'D TAKE A PAUSE HERE JUST BRIEFLY BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS ON FULLY INSURED TRS, ETC. 
          I THINK ANOTHER POINT TO IT'S ON THE BULLETS HERE, BUT IT IS A MINIMUM FIVE-YEAR COMMITMENT. 
          ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN NOT SAYING THAT'S A BAD THING, IT'S JUST A REALITY OF THAT. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THE CLAIM TRENDS AND PIVOT HERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANTED TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THERE MAY BE ON WHY NOT FULLY INSURED, OR ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THE TRS, ETC. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          >> I ACTUALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          NOW, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I USED TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH AETNA BS OR BC. 
          BS, ALL THE DIFFERENT HUMANA, ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES I USED TO NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF MY FIRM. 
          I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED AND I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE, 
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WHY DID WE NOT FULLY INSURE I ACTUALLY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS TRS OR IF YOU'VE TOLD US ABOUT THAT BEFORE, I FORGOT, SO I APPRECIATE LEARNING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. 
          IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER MAKING A CHANGE? IF SO, WHY? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN THIS BASED ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER AND IF NOT, WHY? 
          >> THERE'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM US TO LOOK AT FULLY INSURED. 
          WE WILL IF THE GROUP FEELS LIKE YOU SHOULD DO THAT. 
          THERE'S VERY FEW. 
          I DON'T KNOW, OF ANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, EVEN HALF YOUR SIZE AND DEFINITELY LARGER THAT WERE FULLY INSURED. 
          MOST ARE EITHER IN TRS OR SELF-FUNDED. 
          WE BELIEVE AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE NOT DONE AS WELL BEING FULLY INSURED FOR SURE BECAUSE YOUR PLAN RAN SO WELL FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS PERIOD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SPENT A LOT MORE DOLLARS DURING THOSE YEARS THEN YOU DID. 
          YOU ALSO WOULD HAVE HAD SURPLUSES THAT WERE BUILT UP EVEN PRIOR TO THAT. 
          NOW WITH LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN A GOOD YEAR TO BE FULLY INSURED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. 
          I HALF JOKINGLY SAY WITH ANY OF MY CUSTOMERS, IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHO'S GOING TO BE SICK NEXT YEAR, I CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. 
          IT'S JUST VERY CHALLENGING. 
          THE MARGINS THAT ARE BUILT-IN ON FULLY INSURED, THE LACK OF CONTROL, THE ONLY WAY TO WIN. 
          YOU HAVE TO MOVE, YOU HAVE TO MOVE, YOU HAVE TO MOVE. 
          EVEN THEN, I WOULD STILL CONTEND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. 
          NOW, TRS, GIVEN HOW YOU'VE RUN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK IS A HEALTHY CONVERSATION FOR YOUR GROUP TO HAVE TO KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT IN WHY YOU'RE NOT IN, HOW WE LOOKED AT IT, THAT THING. 
          THAT'S ONE THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING. 
          >> WHEN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE TRS PLAN, ARE YOU GOING TO SHARE SOME SUCCESS STORIES FOR US TO CONSIDER FROM OTHER DISTRICTS? 
          >> DO WANT TO GO FOR THAT? 
          >> SURE. I WILL SAY IT'S A RECENT THING WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THAT TRS IT USED TO BE IF YOU WERE IN TRS, YOU WERE IN TRS, YOU COULD NOT GET OUT. 
          IT'S A RECENT MOVE FOR TRS TO ACTUALLY ALLOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO GET OUT. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE FIGHTING. NOT ALL. 
          [LAUGHTER] SOME WERE FIGHTING TO GET OUT BECAUSE THEY WANTED, AGAIN, TO CONTROL THEIR PLAN AND TO DESIGN THEIR PROGRAM AND CONTROL THE COST THE WAY THEIR DISTRICT SAW FIT. 
          WELL, I KNOW ONE LOCAL DISTRICT THAT HAS ACTUALLY MOVED FROM TRS TO OUTSIDE OF TRS TODAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THEIR PROGRAM, I JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER WITH TRS. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DISTRICTS THAT I KNOW OF ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE GOTTEN INTO TRS IN RECENT HISTORY. 
          TRADITIONALLY, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SINCE IT'S BEEN ALLOWED, IT'S BEEN MOSTLY DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY DISTRICTS THAT WERE SMALLER IN SIZE BUT GREW SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          YOU SEE SOME OF THE DALLAS DISTRICTS ESPECIALLY, THAT HAVE GROWN SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT HAVE MADE THE MOVE OUT OF TRS. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT CONTROL OVER THEIR PLAN. 
          >> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU SAID HEALTHY CONVERSATION, IS THE HEALTHY CONVERSATION COME DOWN TO A RUB BETWEEN CONTROL AND COST? IS THAT THE TRADE-OFF? 
          >> I THINK THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT. 
          CONTROL AND COST, HISTORICALLY, OTHER THAN LAST YEAR, I STILL THINK TRS WOULD COST YOU MORE, SOMEBODY MORE, EITHER YOUR EMPLOYEES OR YOU, OR NOT AS GOOD OF A HEALTH PLAN TO HAVE FOR THEIR FAMILIES JUST BECAUSE OF HOW YOU'VE RUN, HISTORICALLY. 
          IF THINGS ARE RUNNING GOOD AND EVERYTHING IS ALL GREAT, PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT TRS RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S JUST THEIR NUMBERS ARE GETTING BIG AND WE JUST THINK IT'S HEALTHY TO BE REVIEWING IT AND UNDERSTANDING IT SPECIFIC TO ROUND ROCK. 
          >> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN, I GUESS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER IS WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE PLANS. 
          WHEN YOU OPT-IN FOR TRS, YOU CANNOT SAY LIKE RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE OFFER A $0 PAYMENT. 
          FOR OUR STAFF, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE TRS, I THINK THEY SET THOSE UP FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS DEPENDING ON THE REGION, LIKE YOU SAID. 
          >> YES AND NO. YOU HAVE A LITTLE CONTROL HOW MUCH YOU PUT INTO THE PLAN WHICH COULD CREATE A $0 COST BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE STRUCTURE OR THE DESIGN, OR THE PLANS, OR THE PLANS FOR THE PLANS. 
          THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO OFFER. 
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          >> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THEY DECIDE WHAT THE COST IS. 
          TODAY, ROUND ROCK'S DISTRICT FUNDING IS 466. 
          THAT GIVES YOU ACTUALLY TWO $0 PLANS TODAY. 
          IF YOU WERE IN TRS AND TOMORROW THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY THE LOWEST COST PLAN OPTION IS GOING TO BE $500, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT ZERO COST FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, THE DISTRICT HAS TO UPDATE YOUR FUNDING TO $500 A MONTH. 
          >> KRISTY HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. 
          JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT FOR THE TRS CONVERSATION, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY MISSED THE MARK FOR THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR, CORRECT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT '24, '25? 
          >> IT'S '25. 
          >> '25. 
          >> THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT TRS WORKS OFF OF A SEPTEMBER EFFECTIVE DATE, AND YOU'RE ON A JANUARY EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          LET'S SAY YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE TO TRS AS SOON AS YOU CAN. 
          THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 2024, AND YOU NEED TO LIKE THE BULLET POINT SAYS, MAKE THAT DECISION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, REALLY WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION BY ALMOST AUGUST BECAUSE WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO STRUCTURE YOUR INSURANCE CONTRACTS ON A SHORT PLAN YEAR. 
          WE'D ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A RESERVE, A RUNOFF OF CLAIMS THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED BUT NOT YET PAID. 
          THERE'S ABOUT A MONTH TO A MONTH-AND-A-HALF OF EXPOSURE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THE FUNDING OF THAT AS WELL. 
          THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS. 
          >> THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL CONTEXT FOR HOW WE EVEN MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CONVERSATION. 
          MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS OBVIOUSLY FROM A DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THE BUDGET. 
          THAT IS OUR DUTY. 
          CAN YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS OR THE DOWNFALLS FOR EACH OF THESE FROM AN EMPLOYEE STANDPOINT? IS THERE ONE THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN ANOTHER FROM AN EMPLOYEE STANDPOINT? 
          >> WELL, WE MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OPINION ON THIS AT SOME LEVEL, BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO HOW MUCH THE DISTRICTS PUTTING IN, WHAT THE COST OF THE PLAN IS AT A GROSS LEVEL. 
          THE NET OF THAT IS, IS WHAT TYPE OF PLAN YOU CAN OFFER YOUR PEOPLE AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS THEM. 
          THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE TRS PLAN FULLY INSURED, I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO PERFORM AS WELL AS A SELF-FUNDED PLAN. 
          WITH THE TRS PLAN, YOU JUST SIMPLY LOSE CONTROL OVER THOSE DECISIONS. 
          YOU ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY WINDOW INTO INFORMATION EITHER, REALLY, NOT NEAR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE TODAY TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE RIGHT THING BASED ON A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          IT REALLY JUST, IT DEPENDS IF YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO RUN AT TREND LEVELS THAT YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR BAD RISK AND THROW IT INTO A TRS BUCKET, THEN YOU MAY BENEFIT FROM THAT. 
          THEN THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES, IT WOULD BENEFIT YOU AND IT WOULD BENEFIT YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          AS WE GET INTO SOME OF THIS DATA, AND I'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT OTHER DATA CONSISTENT WITH WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOU'RE NOT ALONE. 
          YOU GUYS ARE NOT OUT OF BOUNDS AT ALL ON YOUR GROSS COST. 
          I MEANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST ROUND ROCK IS DEALING WITH. 
          THIS IS A LOCAL DISTRICT CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING ON. 
          THE STATES HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, TRS THE WHOLE THING. 
          IT'S A CHALLENGE. I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. 
          >> I WOULD JUST ADD, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT TODD SAID. 
          THE ONLY THING I'D ADD BECAUSE YOU SAID FROM AN EMPLOYEE'S PERSPECTIVE, IS I THINK THE PLAN DESIGNS TODAY WERE PUT INTO PLACE WITH THE EMPLOYEES IN MIND. 
          TRYING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF PLAN OPTIONS TO MEET A VARIETY OF NEEDS. 
          WITH TRS, IT'S THE THREE OR FOUR PLANS THEY OFFER AND THAT'S IT. 
          >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT I DO HAVE JUST ONE REMINDER OF FIRST-OFF TRUSTEES WERE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT. 
          THIS IS JUST AN EDUCATION DISCUSSION AND GET US THINKING ABOUT THIS, SO WE'RE NOT OBVIOUSLY POSTED FOR ANY ACTION. 
          BUT ONE LITTLE QUESTION I HAD IS IF WE MADE THIS DECISION TO MOVE AND LET'S SAY WE ENDED UP HAVING A STELLAR YEAR AND ENDED UP WITH A SURPLUS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY THAT WAS NOW IN A SURPLUS AND WE MOVE TO THE TRS MODEL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY THEN SET IN OUR HEALTH BENEFIT FUND? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 
          >> THE SURPLUS WOULD HAPPEN PRIOR TO YOU MOVING TO TRS. 
          IT WOULD BE THE DISTRICT'S MONEY IS STILL AND YOU COULD THEN USE 
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THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW MUCH YOU WE'RE THEN GOING TO FUND IN TRS. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> IF YOU HAVE A SURPLUS WHEN YOU'RE IN TRS, THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. EXACTLY. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONES LIGHT IS ON NOW. 
          >> THANK YOU. I WAS PUSHING MY BUTTON I GUESS IT DIDN'T LIGHT UP FIRST, SO SORRY. 
          I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FORECAST MODELS THAT YOU'RE USING BECAUSE REALLY THE DECISION FROM THIS BOARD, THIS IS A RISK. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE VERY DRIVEN JUST BY HEALTH CARE. 
          BUT FOR THIS BOARD, WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT POCKETS THAT WE HAVE A RISK THAT WE HAVE TO ASSUME EVERY YEAR IN OUR BUDGET. 
          YOU'VE MADE THE COMMENT THAT LAST YEAR WHEN YOU WERE HERE IN THE FORECAST FOR THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY THE FORECAST MODELS WERE INCORRECT AND I THINK IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD A COMBINED $10 MILLION DEFICIT IN OUR INSURANCE, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS BOARD. 
          THEN MY MINDSET IS ALWAYS THAT THAT GOES TO CHILDREN. 
          MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CHANGES IN HEALTH CARE AND THEN THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY A PANDEMIC. 
          THOSE TWO THINGS COMBINED, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FORECASTING MODELS AND JUST SOUNDS LIKE THE FORECASTING MODELS AREN'T WORKING. 
          I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH CAN I TRUST THE FORECASTING MODELS FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          >> TOTALLY, THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION. 
          WE LOOK AT OUR OWN TREND. 
          WE LOOK AT SOME OUTSIDE SOURCES AS WELL WITH DIFFERENT ACTUARIES. 
          WE LISTEN TO THE CARRIERS AND WE COME UP WITH ART FORECASTING FOR OUR CLIENTS A CERTAIN TREND. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING 5% FOR MEDICAL COST AND 8% FOR DRUG COST. 
          DRUG COST IS JUST CONTINUING TO GO CRAZY. 
          THAT NETS OUT TO ABOUT 5.8% A YEAR. 
          WE USE THAT AS A PREDICTOR. 
          WE UPDATE EVERY SINGLE MONTH, WE'RE SENDING OUT TO YOUR TEAM AND NEW FINANCIAL FORECAST, FIVE YEARS OUT, RE-CALCULATING EACH TIME. 
          IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT THAT NUMBER SPECIFIC EVERY YEAR. 
          YOU HAVE A 7-8% MISS RATIO UP AND DOWN. 
          THAT'S WHERE I HIT A CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF 80%. 
          IF YOU GIVE ME AN 8% RANGE, I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT 8% RANGE, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PIN IT EXACTLY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WE GO ON IN THE NEXT SLIDES. 
          >> I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE BASICALLY WHEN YOU DO FULL FUNDED, YOU GET RID OF ALL YOUR RISK. 
          YOU HAVE NO RESCUE PAY. 
          THERE'S BENEFITS, AND THE BENEFIT IS THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S A SURPLUS. 
          BUT FOR US, I THINK WHICH IS FOR THE BOARD, IN MY OPINION, IT'S THE RISK CONVERSATION OF ARE WE WILLING TO RISK CHILDREN'S MONEY FOR CERTAIN THINGS. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS THE SELF-FUNDED, I THINK ONE OF YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT MOST DISTRICTS OUR SIZE ARE SELF-FUNDED. 
          CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I KNOW LATER WE GET INTO SOME OF THESE BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT SAYS THEY'RE EITHER SELF-FUNDED OR THEY'RE WITH THE FULL FUNDED? DO YOU KNOW THAT FOR SURE OTHER THAN THE DISTRICTS YOU WORK FOR? 
          >> GO AHEAD. 
          >> WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH KRISTEN AND HELP UPDATE THERE. 
          WE WERE GIVEN SOME PEER GROUP DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE, NOT JUST LOCALLY. 
          WE DO DENOTE EVERY YEAR GO THROUGH, SEE WHAT THEIR DISTRICT FUNDING IS, WHAT THEIR LOWEST COST PROGRAM IS, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND WE DO DENOTE ON THERE WHETHER IT'S SELF-FUNDED OR FULLY INSURED. 
          I THINK WHEN WE DO THAT MODELING THE BENCHMARKING, THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT IN TRS, NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, THEY'RE SELF-FUNDED. 
          I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY THAT PERCENTAGE IS PROBABLY HIGHER. 
          I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S MAYBE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE NOT. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          LET'S LET'S MOVE ON. 
          WE'RE GOOD TO GO. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT. 
          WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF OUR REPORTS THAT WE PROVIDE MONTHLY AND IT'S A CLAIMS TREND AND IT'S ON A PER MEMBER PER MONTH BASIS. 
          SO IT'S REPORTED FOR EVERYBODY COVER, WHETHER YOU'RE A SPOUSE, CHILD, OR AN EMPLOYEE. 
          THE JAGGED LINE REPRESENTS 
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THE ACTUAL CLAIMS FOR THAT MONTH AND THEN WE HAVE SMOOTH THAT OUT. 
          WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT RED-CIRCLED AREA STARTING ABOUT THE TIME WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR, THINGS ACCELERATED FURTHER THAN WHERE THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN. 
          IT WENT BEYOND THAT 5.8% TREND THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER. 
          THAT'S THROUGH 2022. 
          AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS REALLY PULLS US ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE REVIEW TO 2011. 
          I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA HERE, SO I WANT TO LEVEL SET ON A FEW THINGS. 
          LET'S LOOK AT 2022, THE WORST YEAR, AND JUST EACH OF THESE BARRELS AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT. 
          THIS IS REPORTED ON A PER EMPLOYEE PER YEAR, AND SO THAT COMPANY COST OR THE DISTRICT'S COST WAS 6,466. 
          THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHAT PLAN THE EMPLOYEE WAS IN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY HAD SPOUSE, CHILD, FAMILY, THAT'S THE ALL-IN DISTRICT COST FOR THE YEAR PER EMPLOYEE. 
          THEN ABOVE THAT, SAME THING. 
          THIS IS HOW MUCH THE EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS TO COVER COST. 
          THE MAJORITY OF THAT FOR YOU ALL AS IF SOMEBODY IS COVERING THEIR FAMILY, YOU DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE BUYING UP, PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR YOUR BETTER PLAN. 
          BUT THE MAJORITY ARE ON THE FAMILY SIDE. 
          THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS ON AVERAGE PER YEAR. 
          THEN ABOVE THAT IS HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING FOR CO-INSURANCE, CO-PAYS, DEDUCTIBLES, GO INTO THE PICK UP A PRESCRIPTION AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT ACTUALLY OUTWEIGHS MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING ON PREMIUMS ON AVERAGE. 
          THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT THIS AND THAT'S THE TOTAL GROSS COSTS ALL-IN. 
          THOSE ARE THE THREE BUCKETS THAT ARE PAYING FOR THAT COST. 
          WELL THEN IF YOU DROPPED DOWN BELOW AND LOOK AT ROUND ROCK CLAIMS TREND. 
          I'M GOING TO JUST USE 2012 BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBERS WE'VE BEEN WORKING OFF OF. 
          FROM 2012 THROUGH 2018, YOU HAD VERY LOW CLAIMS TREND. 
          I AVERAGE THAT OUT OVER THAT SEVEN-YEAR TIME PERIOD AND IT WAS 1.2%. 
          THAT'S VERY GOOD, THAT'S EXTRAORDINARY. 
          MOST OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS DID NOT SEE THAT. 
          YOU GUYS RAN VERY WELL FOR THAT SEVEN-YEAR TIME PERIOD. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE MISSED ON THE LOW END. 
          IT'S GREAT TO BE WRONG AND IT WORKED OUT. 
          ANYWAY, SO THAT TIME PERIOD IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DISTRICT'S COSTS WAS. 
          I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AND SEE FROM AN EMPLOYEE PERSPECTIVE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE MUCH CHANGE ON THE EMPLOYEE SIDE EITHER. 
          YOU GUYS ARE REALLY WELL POSITIONED RELATIVE TO LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON HOW YOUR PLANS ARE SET DEFINITELY FOR 2022. 
          WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN 2023. 
          VERY LITTLE CHANGE WITH THE EMPLOYEES. 
          I'M GOING TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THIS HERE IN A BIT. 
          BUT IN 2019 HIT, THAT YEAR IT WAS A BIG MISS TO THE BETTER. 
          IT RAN SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN WE WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED. 
          THAT'S SIMPLY DUE TO YOU DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY LARGE CLAIMS THAT YEAR. 
          WE PIVOT TO 2020, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN COVID HIT. 
          A LOT OF STUFF WAS SHUT DOWN. 
          EVEN THOUGH THE COVID COSTS WERE HIGH, THEY WERE OFFSET BY FOLKS NOT GETTING SURGERIES AND GO TO THE DOCTOR, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          FOR MOST OF OUR CLIENTS, 2020 WAS ACTUALLY A LOWER YEAR THAN 2019. 
          BUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAD SUCH A GOOD YEAR IN 2019, THAT WASN'T THE CASE, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. 
          THEN WE LAUNCH INTO THE PROBLEM WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY, AND THAT IS IN 2021 IT WENT UP AND THEN 2022. 
          I'M GOING TO HIT ON A COUPLE OF THE LARGE CLAIM IMPACT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO SOME MORE DETAILS. 
          BUT WHAT THIS SHOWS YOU IN 2019, IF YOU LOOK AT CLAIMS THAT WERE 100,000 PLUS, SO THAT MEANS ANY PERSON ON YOUR PLAN THAT HAD A CLAIM COST OF 100,000 OR MORE. 
          YOUR AVERAGE COST IF YOU BAKED ALL THAT IN, WAS $74.90. 
          IN 2022, THAT WAS $109. 
          THAT'S A 45% INCREASE. 
          YOU DROP DOWN TO THE NEXT HIGHLIGHTED AREA. 
          FOR ALL CLAIMS, 10,000 OR MORE, YOU CAN SEE THE DELTA THERE TO 2019 AT $211, IN 2020, THAT WAS 306, AGAIN, 45% INCREASE. 
          THEN THE LAST STEP, I DON'T KNOW EDDY BRINGS US UP A FAIR AMOUNT. 
          IT'S SURPRISING HOW FEW PEOPLE DRIVE THE TOTAL COST. 
          YOU HAVE LESS THAN 1% OF YOUR FOLKS DRIVING 25% OF THE CLAIMS SPENT IN 2022. 
          2022 WAS NOT A GOOD CLAIMS HERE FOR LARGE CLAIMS IS THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, WELL, THAT'S GREAT. 
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WILL IT PIVOT AND CHANGE FOR 2023, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. 
          MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS TAKES ALL THAT DATA AND BRINGS IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORMAT. 
          LET'S JUST GO TO THE TOP, 2014. 
          YOU HAD ROUGHLY 5,300 EMPLOYEES COVERED ON THE PLAN. 
          THE ALL-IN PLAN COST WAS 31 MILLION. 
          THE EMPLOYEES WERE PAYING JUST UNDER 10 MILLION IN PREMIUM OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS. 
          THE DISTRICT FUND DOES THAT 23 MILLION IS TAKING YOUR $370 A MONTH MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER COVERED. 
          THAT WAS WHAT YOU FUNDED. 
          WE CAN SEE THAT THE ACTUAL COST, SO HOW THE PLAN ACTUALLY RAN WAS LESS THAN YOUR FUND. 
          YOU GUYS HAD A SURPLUS THAT YEAR. 
          YOUR ACTUAL COST TO THE PLAN THAT YEAR WAS $345 PER EMPLOYEE. 
          AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN '15, '16, '17, AND '18, YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE DEFICITS IN THOSE YEARS. 
          NOW REMEMBER, WE GO BACK, WE TALKED ABOUT YOU HAD DEFICITS, BUT YOUR PLAN RAN REALLY WELL. 
          WHAT WAS GOING ON DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2020, YOU HAD A BUILT-UP SURPLUS. 
          WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A REAL GOOD WINDOW AT THAT TIME WITH THE TEAM WE'RE WORKING WITH AND TO EXACTLY WHERE, BUT THERE WAS A SURPLUS SOMEWHERE PRIOR TO US WORKING WITH YOU FOR HEALTH CARE. 
          I THINK IT WAS AROUND 10 MILLION-ISH. 
          THERE WAS A REAL STRONG DESIRE AT THAT TIME TO NOT CONSIDER COST GOING UP AND USE THAT SURPLUS TO OFFSET DEFICITS. 
          EVEN THOUGH THE PLAN WAS RUNNING WELL, THERE WAS STILL A DEFICIT. 
          WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, WHEN THAT PIVOTED, YOU'D BE IN SOME DEFICITS ANYWAY IF THINGS HADN'T PIVOTED, BECAUSE THE SURPLUS GOT USED UP IS THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WERE VERY FEW CHANGES FROM THE PLAN DESIGN. 
          THERE WAS A STRONG DESIRE TO KEEP THE PROGRAM THAT MUCH BETTER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE AREA. 
          THAT'S THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          LIKE I SAID, 2019 AND 2020, YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD SURPLUS YEAR, OR NOT REALLY GOOD BUT DECENT. 
          THEN '21, '22 HIT. 
          THANK YOU, AARON. WE WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT DURING 2014 THROUGH 2019, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE DEFICITS, THE DISTRICT FUNDS STILL STAYED AT 370. 
          THEY'RE JUST PROBABLY WERE NOT ENOUGH DOLLARS GOING IN THERE OR THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH PLAN CHANGES BEING MADE TO TRY TO BALANCE THAT WHOLE EQUATION. 
          OKAY, SO WHAT DID WE DO IN 2023? AARON IS GOING TO SUMMARIZE THAT. 
          >> YEAH. WHEN WE WERE OUT HERE LAST YEAR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DEFICITS AND THE NEED TO MAKE SOME PLAN CHANGES, EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION CHANGES TO TRY TO MAKE SOME GROUND, TRY TO MAKE UP GROUND. 
          THERE WERE PLANNED CHANGES LAST YEAR. 
          THANK YOU, KRISTEN. I HAVE A HARD TIME MULTITASKING. 
          THERE WERE PLANNED CHANGES LAST YEAR AS A RESULT OF TRYING TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THAT DEFICIT. 
          YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A $2,500 HMO PLAN. 
          IT SAYS NEW FOR 2023. 
          THAT WAS YOU ONLY HAD THREE PLANS PRIOR. 
          THAT WAS A FOURTH PLAN ADDED TO HELP EMPLOYEES STEER, YOU'RE TRYING TO DRIVE DOWN COSTS BECAUSE THE HMO NETWORKS DRIVE A DEEPER DISCOUNT. 
          BUT THERE'S ALSO A PRIMARY CARE GATEKEEPER. 
          THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE. 
          AS YOUR PRIMARY CARE IS LITERALLY GATEKEEPING, YOUR CARE FOR THE REST OF THE MARKET, SO THEY SEND YOU OUT TO A SPECIALIST OR OBVIOUSLY IN AN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN GO TO THE HOSPITAL. 
          BUT IF YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN. 
          BUT IT DOES HELP CONTROL COSTS BY HAVING PRETTY MUCH ONE INDIVIDUAL DIRECTING YOUR CARE AND UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR HEALTH. 
          THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AS A $0 PLAN LAST YEAR. 
          ALSO THE HSA PLAN CONTINUED TO BE A $0 PLAN LAST YEAR, JUST TRYING TO INCENT. 
          >> JUST FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          >> JUST FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          >> NOT THEIR SPOUSE OR CHILDREN. 
          >> CORRECT. 
          >> THANK YOU. CORRECT? 
          >> YES. THOSE PROGRAMS ARE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT CLAIMS TREND. 
          YOU DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT-OF-POCKET SOMETIMES ON THE EMPLOYEE SIDE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HSA PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S NO CO-PAYS. 
          EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF THE EMPLOYEE'S POCKET UP UNTIL THE DEDUCTIBLE IS MET, AND THEN THE PLANT STARTS TO PAY. 
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BUT THOSE TWO PLANS CAN HELP MITIGATE TREND IF YOU GET THE ENROLLMENT IN THOSE PLANS. 
          IN THE APPENDIX, THERE IS KIND OF HOW THE ENROLLMENT ENDED UP FLUSHING OUT FOR THIS YEAR. 
          WE DID GET ADDITIONAL ENROLLMENT IN THE HSA PLAN AND SOME ENROLLMENT IN THE HMO, THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF HESITATION FOR PEOPLE MOVING INTO A NEW PLAN. 
          THEY WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE THE GUINEA PIG AND TRY IT OUT, SEE HOW IT WORKS. 
          THEN IN YEAR 2, YEAR 3, WE TYPICALLY SEE ENROLLMENT GO UP. 
          WE DIDN'T GET THE ENROLLMENT WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE IN THE NEW PLAN, BUT IT WASN'T UNEXPECTED TO NOT GET SIGNIFICANT ENROLLMENT. 
          I'M HOPING YEAR 2 WILL BE BETTER. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE STILL $0 PLANS OFFERED AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT ROUND ROCK IS THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT I KNOW OF THAT OFFERS TWO $0 PLANS. 
          THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          BUT ONE THAT THE DISTRICT HAS TO DECIDE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP AND RETAIN TO CONTINUE TO OFFER TWO $0 PLANS. 
          >> WHAT OF ORDER? 
          >> WHAT IS YOUR POINT? 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SLIDE, ARE WE HOLDING QUESTIONS TILL THE END OF THE PRESENTATION? 
          >> YEAH, I THINK UNTIL WE GET TO A BREAKING POINT. 
          >> IN ADDITION TO THE NEW PLAN OFFERING, WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS ON THE EMPLOYEE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE $2,500 PLAN, THE PPO PLAN, THAT WAS A $0 PLAN AND IT WENT UP TO $20 A MONTH PER EMPLOYEE IF THEY HAD SINGLE COVERAGE. 
          THE $1,500 PPO PLAN ALSO WENT UP $20 A MONTH, AND THEN ACROSS THE BOARD, DEPENDENT COSTS WENT UP 11%. 
          >> DO YOU WANT TO PAUSE HER? 
          >> LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A PAUSE BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME DATA. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON? 
          >> I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THE HSA PLAN, THE DEDUCTIBLE IS MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED. 
          WHEN HSAS WERE NEW, I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS IN 2005, 2006 WHEN I WAS WORKING IN THIS INDUSTRY, THE LOWEST DEDUCTIBLE WAS AT THE FIVE TO $6,000 RANGE. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU GOT THE PREMIUM SO LOW OR DOWN TO ALMOST NOTHING. 
          THIS IS NOT A BIG CONTRAST AND I UNDERSTAND THE INCENTIVE TO THE EMPLOYEE IS THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING. 
          BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES ARE FEMALE OBVIOUSLY, AND A GREAT MANY OF THEM ARE MARRIED. 
          SO I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, NOT YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE RESPOND TO INCENTIVES. 
          THEY CAN ONLY MAKE DECISIONS IF THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. CURRAN, BUT DO OUR EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF THE HDHP HIGH-DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PAD, WHICH THEY'RE CALLING HSA HERE. 
          DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE HDHP THEY CAN HAVE AN HSA AND PUT MONEY IN THEIR TAX-FREE, AND THEY BENEFIT? BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, A MAJORITY OF INSURED EMPLOYEES DO NOT EXERCISE THE PLAN OR EXERCISE IT AT SUCH A LOW LEVEL, THAT'S THE MAJORITY. 
          THAT'S THE REALITY. 
          THIS IS WHY THIS TOOK OFF IN POPULARITY OVER A DECADE AGO. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU UNDERSTAND HOW YOU BENEFIT, IF YOU'RE GENERALLY HEALTHY AND HOW YOU CAN SOCK AWAY MONEY BASICALLY, WITH 401K OR WHATEVER THE RETIREMENT SAVINGS IS FOR THIS INDUSTRY, YOU TYPICALLY YOU HAVE CAPS. 
          A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WERE USING THE HSA AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEYOND THAT CAP, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS LIFE CHANGING OVER YEARS FOR HEALTHY PEOPLE, SINGLE PEOPLE. 
          THAT HSA MONEY, ONCE YOU TURN 65, YOU CAN USE IT FOR LOTS OF THINGS. 
          THERE'S AN EDUCATION CURVE THAT IF WE CAN REACH IT, I THINK COULD REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE. 
          CAN YOU TELL US WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. NO, IT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          IT IS ABOUT EDUCATION AND MAKING SURE EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT AND SO PART OF OUR WORK AND OUR EFFORT AND KRISTEN'S WORLD AND IN OUR TEAM IS TO REALLY EXPAND THAT EDUCATION PIECE. 
          I WILL SAY WE DID HAVE AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO DID TAKE THIS PLAN THIS YEAR, AND PART OF THAT WAS HAVING THOSE INTENTIONAL CONVERSATIONS DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT TO HELP EDUCATE. 
          BUT IT'S CONTINUING TO GET THAT WORD OUT IN MULTIPLE WAYS. 
          WE'VE REDESIGNED OUR WEBSITE. 
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WE'VE PUT VIRTUAL SESSIONS TOGETHER PRIOR TO OPEN ENROLLMENT TO TRY AND EDUCATE PEOPLE MORE ON WHAT THAT IS. 
          THEN A COMPONENT OF THE U PROGRAM THAT KRISTEN AND HER TEAM PUT TOGETHER IS OUR FINANCIAL AWARENESS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, BUT IT'S ABOUT FINANCIAL AWARENESS. 
          HOW I CAN MAINTAIN THAT? I THINK IT'S A $7,000 MAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE HSA. 
          IN ADDITION TO MY 4O3B. 
          SO IT'S ALL WRAPPED IN TOGETHER. 
          I WOULD SAY IT'S HARD TO ASSESS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING BETTER INFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING THINGS ON OUR WEBSITE AND HOPING THEY GO THERE. 
          WE TRYING TO UTILIZE SOME OF OUR NEWSLETTERS AND OUR BLOG POSTS TO PUT INFORMATION OUT THERE PERIODICALLY. 
          THEN THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET ONTO MORE CAMPUSES NEXT YEAR AND ACTUALLY HAVE SESSIONS ON CAMPUSES AND DEPARTMENTS WHERE FOLKS CAN COME DURING THEIR CONFERENCE PERIOD OR CAN COME DURING THEIR LUNCH HOUR AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HER PLANS PROACTIVELY. 
          IT TAKES ALL OF THAT BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, OUR TEACHERS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME DURING THE DAY. 
          OUR BUS DRIVERS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME DURING THE DAY, SO WE HAVE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THEM. 
          TOTALLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE. 
          >> WE DID A FENTANYL COMMUNITY FORUM ONLINE. 
          THERE WAS OVER 600 PEOPLE THAT REGISTERED FOR THAT. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TWO FORUMS THE PAST TO MONDAY NIGHTS, I THINK ON THE BUDGET. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE ON THAT. 
          MY GUESS, I PREDICT IF WE DID A FORUM ON EDUCATING OUR EMPLOYEES, THE FTES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          ON UNDERSTANDING THIS, MY GUESS IS THAT THAT WOULD BE WIDELY ATTENDED AND ESPECIALLY IF WE COULD EXTEND THE ZERO COST TOO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DID AT MY FIRM BEYOND EMPLOYEES BUT TO FAMILIES. 
          YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THAT DEDUCTIBLE. 
          BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE PREMIUM NUMBERS, IF I CAN KEEP $800 A MONTH IN MY PAYCHECK, I THINK IT'S WORTH A LISTEN. 
          I'LL JUST END BY SAYING, I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE ONLINE FORUMS DR. AZAIEZ IN REACHING OUR COMMUNITY. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THAT WHAT I'M HEARING, IF I'M REFLECTING IT BACK ACCURATELY, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'RE NOT GOING IN A GOOD DIRECTION ON THIS. 
          IF EDUCATING OUR STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS COULD MOVE THE NEEDLE SO MUCH AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS LATER. 
          OFTEN IN LIFE, PROBLEMS, HUMAN NATURE IS TO LOOK FOR EXTERNAL SOLUTIONS. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IN THE REAL-WORLD AND IN REAL LIFE, SO OFTEN OUR PROBLEMS ARE ACTUALLY SOLVED FROM WITHIN. 
          OR AT LEAST WE HAVE TO EXHAUST THE OPPORTUNITIES TO RESOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FROM WITHIN BEFORE WE LOOK EXTERNAL, AT LEAST THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          >> I HAD A QUESTION. I DON'T THINK MY BUTTON IS WORKING. I'M SORRY. 
          >> IT WAS WORKING EARLIER. 
          >> I THINK I JUST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING IT AND IT MIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> NOW IT WORKS. 
          >> IT'S LIKE EVERY FIFTH TIME, I THINK LAST YEAR AND I DON'T SEE THIS IN THE SLIDER AND THE OTHER ONES, I THINK YOU GUYS, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A SLIDE THAT TOLD US, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DID TAKE EACH OF THESE PLANS. 
          >> IT'S ON PAGE 20 
          >> IS IN THE BACKUP MAYBE. 
          >> JUST A QUICK SUMMARY, 10 PERCENT ARE IN THE HSA PLAN, NINE PERCENT ARE IN THE HMO, 73 PERCENT ARE IN THE PPO. 
          THE $2,500 PPO AND EIGHT PERCENT ARE IN YOUR MOST EXPENSIVE PLAN. 
          >> THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY 75 PERCENT OR 74 IS OVERWHELMINGLY. 
          THAT'S AN EXTREMELY POPULAR PLAN. 
          >> FOR SURE, AND IT HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. 
          I THINK YOU HAD AS MUCH AS 85 PERCENT IN IT AT ONE TIME THAT EVERY ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE REALLY GOOD COMMENTS. 
          BUT IF YOU DROPPED DOWN TO THE EMPLOYEE ONLY COST, IT'S ZERO VERSUS 20. 
          IT'S HARD TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER TO AN HSA PLAN, WHICH HAS A LOT OF DETAILS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, GOOD FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, BUT IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. 
          IT'S JUST EASIER TO SAY NO, I JUST WANT TO PAY MY $30 WHEN I GO TO THE DOCTOR. 
          THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT AND ALMOST ASSUREDLY CHANGE FOR 2024. 
          >> WELL, THE REASON I ASKED IS BECAUSE THE $2,500 PPO, THAT LOOKS VERY MUCH FULL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET IF YOU WENT OUT TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT A FULL PAID INSURANCE PLAN. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY COMMON PLAN THAT YOU WOULD SEE OUT THERE. 
          SOME OF THESE OTHER CREATIVE PLANS ARE GREAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD PROBABLY GET A FULL PAID PLAN THAT MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE TAKING ALREADY. 
          IS THAT TRUE, IS THAT PPO PLAN SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD GET FULL PAID? 
          >> YOU CAN BUY ANY DEDUCTIBLE AS LOW AS $250. 
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PROBABLY IF YOUR SIZE EVEN ZERO DOLLARS ALL THE WAY UP TO AS HIGH AS YOU WANT IT TO GO, THAT THE ACA LAW WOULD ALLOW FULLY INSURED AS WELL AS SELF-FUNDED, SO THE PLAN DESIGN DOESN'T MATTER AS MUCH AS HOW IT'S FUNDED. 
          >> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE FOUR PLANS THAT YOU OFFER TODAY, YOU COULD BUY THOSE TWO IN A FULLY INSURED SPACE. 
          THE BASIC PLAN DESIGN ISN'T DEPENDENT ON BEING SELF-FUNDED OR FULLY INSURED. 
          >> I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK I HAD HEARD SOMETHING, AT LEAST THE WAY I HEARD IT WAS TO THE CONTRARY THAT THEY WERE SET PLANS IF WE WERE TO GO OUT TO FULLY INSURED. 
          >> YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY AND THE FULLY INSURED MARKET BASED ON YOUR SIZE, ON WHAT YOUR DEDUCTIBLES ARE, COPIES ARE, WHAT YOUR NETWORK IS, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A PCP GATEKEEPER OR NOT. 
          WITH TRS, THAT IS THE ONE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR PLANS AT ALL. 
          TRS SETS, THEY PICK THE CARRIER, THEY PICK THAT NETWORK, THEY PICK YOUR PLANS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU OFFER YOUR EMPLOYEES IF YOU'RE A MEMBER. 
          >> SINCE WE'RE ON IT, TRS, DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS $2500 PPO, DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR? 
          >> ACTUALLY, THAT'S PROBABLY A RICHER PLAN THAN WHAT THEY OFFERED. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT'S A MID-LEVEL DEDUCTIBLE PLAN WITH COPAYS IS GRANDFATHERED SO NEW ENROLLEES CANNOT JOIN IT. 
          TRS, THEIR FOCUS IS REALLY ON THE HSA AND THEY ALSO OFFER AN HM. 
          THEY HAVE BLUE CROSS TOO. 
          THEY ALSO OFFER AN HMO, SO THEIR FOCUS IS REALLY DRIVING INDIVIDUALS INTO THOSE PLANS. 
          >> I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT 74 PERCENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PICKING THIS PLAN, SO TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> YEAH, 100 PERCENT, AND ANYTIME YOU'RE OFFERING 2,3,4 PLANS, IT'S REALLY BETTER TO HAVE A HEALTHY ENROLLMENT IN EACH OF THEM, BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU'RE OFFERING CHOICE AND OPTIONS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S OFF, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. 
          MOVING ON HERE, PROJECTED FORECASTS LAUNCH IN BACK INTO THAT, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WHAT 2022 LOOK LIKE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT 2023 DROPPED TO 4.3 MILLION AND THE REASON THAT DROPPED ARE THOSE CHANGES THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH. 
          WE MADE SOME MOVEMENT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF CLAIMS WENT UP AT THE LATER HALF OF THE YEAR IT OFFSET A LOT. 
          BUT WE DEFINITELY MADE SOME MOVEMENT CLOSE TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS OF CHANGES LAST YEAR, AND I THINK WITH NOT A LOT OF IMPACT TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          I THINK THE POINT TO THE REST OF THIS IS AS YOU GO FORWARD, IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH. 
          REALLY CONSIDER STRONG BOLD CHANGES FOR 2024 AND THEN MONITOR THIS ON AN ONGOING BASIS AND WITH THE HOPE OF GETTING YOU BACK IN A SURPLUS POSITION. 
          BUT WHAT I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO DO IS DON'T FALL BACK INTO THAT, TAKING YOUR FOOT OFF THE GAS A LITTLE BIT. 
          BECAUSE HEALTH CARE TREND, UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES MY ENTIRE CAREER WHEN I FIRST GOT OUT AND I LOOKED OUT, THE WORLD CAN COST, KEEP GOING UP THIS MUCH. 
          SURELY, IT HAS TO CHANGE AND IT'S SIMPLY HASN'T. 
          YOU HAD THAT GOOD RUN OF SIX OR EIGHT YEARS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2012-'18. 
          IF THOSE THINGS START TO CHANGE AND WE SEE SOME TURN AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY DO, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PRESS AND LOOK HARD AND DIG DEEP AND TRY TO MANAGE THIS OVER THE LONG HAUL, SO THAT'S THE MAIN POINT TO BRINGING THIS SLIDE UP. 
          ANYWAY, AS WE GO FORWARD, A THREE-PRONGED APPROACH. JUST KEEP GOING HERE. 
          THESE ARE PRETTY SIMPLE APPROACHES. 
          BY HEALTH CARE MORE EFFICIENTLY, BY PRESCRIPTION, MORE EFFICIENTLY, THOSE ARE NO-BRAINER THINGS TO DO. 
          WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO DO THOSE ALREADY. 
          THE CARRIER THAT YOU HAVE SELECTED WAS SELECTED FOUR YEARS AGO, BLUE CROSS IS KNOWN TO HAVE THE DEEPEST DISCOUNTS WITH PROVIDERS, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE PAYING LESS WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE HOSPITAL OR DOCTOR. 
          WE WOULD PUT THE BLUE CROSS HMO PLAN IN PLACE. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT MAY GO OUTSIDE OF BLUE CROSS OR AN ADDED PLAN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DRIVE EVEN DEEPER DISCOUNTS, SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING REVIEWED. 
          SAME THING ON THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG PROGRAM. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY SOLID PLAN IN PLACE, WE'VE MANAGED THAT. 
          WE BELIEVE AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE MANAGED OVER THE YEARS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS TO CHANGE. 
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INCREASE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          THAT'S JUST A SIMPLE FINANCIAL MODEL. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THE LAST BULLET WE HAVE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN INCREASE YOUR DISTRICT FUNDING, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          CAN I KEEP GOING? RAISE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO CLOSE THAT GAP IN THE DEFICIT FOR 2024, SO TWO TO 3 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CHANGES, WHICH ARE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          BUT THAT'S FURTHER INCREASING THE COST TO THE EMPLOYEE. 
          THAT PLAN, THAT 73% THAT THE FOLKS ARE IN, THAT $20 COST LIKELY IS GOING UP $30, MAYBE AS MUCH AS $60, ALL OF WHICH WILL KEEP YOU IN LINE. 
          THIS DOES NOT PUT YOU OUT OF LINE WITH YOUR PEER DISTRICTS. 
          YOU'RE GETTING IN LINE WITH YOUR PEER DISTRICTS. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          PLANNED DESIGN CHANGES, MAKING SOME TWEAKS TO THE DEDUCTIBLE ON SOME OF THE PLANS TO MOVE MEMBERSHIP HOPEFULLY OVER TO EITHER THE HSA OR THE BLUE CROSS HMO. 
          WE HAVE SOME PHARMACY STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH OUR PHARMACY TEAM AND TARGETING $1 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXTRACT OUT OF THAT. 
          THAT'S CHALLENGING, BUT WE'RE FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET THAT DONE. 
          THEN SOME ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES THAT AARON SPENT A TON OF TIME LOOKING AT. 
          WE WON'T GO INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE DIGGING DEEP AND REALLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPACT COST DOING THAT. 
          IF YOU'RE STEERING FOLKS, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE TO BE STEERED, EVEN THOUGH IT POTENTIALLY IS BETTER FOR THE PARTICIPANT. 
          IT'S GOING TO COME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF NOISE. 
          BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR THE DISTRICT FUNDING, BUT FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES TO KEEP THE COST UNDER CONTROL SO THEY DON'T GET PASSED UNDER THEM. 
          >> I THINK THAT AN IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT HELP CONTAIN COST AND MITIGATE TREND DO IMPACT THE END USER. 
          SO, IF WE'RE TRYING TO STEER THEM TOWARDS A CERTAIN PLAN OR PHARMACY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO CONTAIN COSTS ON THE PHARMACY, A LOT OF TIMES THAT COMES WITH MORE PRIOR AUTHORIZATIONS OR SOME DRUGS BEING EXCLUDED. 
          THOSE IMPACT THE END USER. 
          THEY DO HELP MITIGATE COSTS. 
          THAT'S A TRADE-OFF THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF. 
          ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF TALKING ABOUT MODELING CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          THESE SALARIES ARE THE CURRENT AVERAGE SALARIES. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE FORECAST OF WHAT THOSE SALARIES MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE STILL IN TALKS ON THAT. 
          BUT AT THE VERY BOTTOM IN RED. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE LAST TWO ROWS, SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTION MODELS THAT WE'VE DONE HAVE BEEN TO INCREASE THE SINGLE COVERAGE COST, STILL KEEP A ZERO-DOLLAR PLAN. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY THAT. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT, WE KNOW, TO THE DISTRICT. 
          BUT INCREASED COST AND OTHER PLANS, EITHER BETWEEN $30 AND $60. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE ANNUAL IMPACT TO THE EMPLOYEE IF THOSE COST CHANGES DO OCCUR. 
          THEN ON THE FAMILY SIDE, SOME OF THE MODELS THAT WE'VE RUN HAVE BEEN INCREASING IN-PLACE COSTS BY 10%. 
          SO, THOSE THAT HAVE FAMILY COVERAGE, YOU SEE WITH THE COST IMPACT WOULD BE TO THEM FOR THAT 10% INCREASE. 
          THEN I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE'S A FOOTNOTE THAT 78% OF THE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATING IN ROUND ROCK'S PLAN HAVE SINGLE COVERAGE. 
          YOU ACTUALLY GET MORE IMPACT AND MORE DOLLARS GOING INTO YOUR FUN TO HELP COVER THOSE COSTS BY MAKING CHANGES TO THAT EMPLOYEE-ONLY COVERAGE TIER. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT BY INCREASING THAT SINGLE TIER BY 20, 30, 40 DOLLARS, YOU GET A LOT MORE DOLLARS OUT OF THAT THAN YOU DO BY INCREASING THE DEPENDENT COST BY 15, 20%. 
          THEN LASTLY, THIS IS SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT, 
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BUT WE DID WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE BENEFITS DEPARTMENT. 
          THE TEAM HAS REALLY I KNOW LAST YEAR WAS HR'S FIRST GO AROUND AT THIS BENEFITS THING TRYING TO GET THEIR LEGS UNDERNEATH THEM. 
          BUT THEY REALLY MADE A PUSH TO TRY TO ENHANCE AND IMPROVE THE BENEFIT PACKAGE IN TOTAL, THAT'S OFFERED TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE DISTRICT. 
          RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY, THERE'S AN RFP OUT FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT'S BEING WORKED ON TODAY JUST TO IMPROVE BENEFITS, IMPROVE COSTS, BUT ALSO ADD ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO ADD OR NOT. 
          IT ALSO ALIGNED YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH YOUR PEER DISTRICTS ON THE BENEFIT OFFERINGS. 
          THERE'S JUST TODAY SOME PRETTY STANDARD OFFERINGS WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ROUND ROCK DOESN'T HAVE TODAY. 
          THEN LASTLY, AND THIS IS A LONG-TERM ONGOING DISCUSSION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW THAT EDDY HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON AND TEAM, IS GETTING MORE INFORMATION ON COST AND ACTUALLY HOW THIS COULD BE ROLLED OUT. 
          BUT DOING ON-SITE OR NEAR-SITE CLINICS FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR HEALTH CARE COST RIGHT TO THE BETTER IF PEOPLE ARE GOING AND USING A LOCAL CLINIC. 
          BUT THERE IS UPFRONT COST TO THAT TOO. 
          THAT'S THE FLIP SIDE, BUT IT IS BEING LOOKED AT AND TALKED ABOUT PRETTY HEAVILY. 
          BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON WITHIN THE BENEFITS REALM. 
          I'LL PAUSE THERE. 
          >> WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          >> THANK YOU, TODD AND AARON. 
          TODD, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT RESONATED WITH ME. 
          I WROTE IT DOWN. 
          YOU SAID WHEN IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING STRONG AND WE NEED BOLD CHANGES FOR 2024. 
          THAT RESONATED WITH ME AND I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND THE ADMINISTRATION, IS THAT I SEE SOME BRIGHT SPOTS HERE AND I SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA. 
          IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SLIDE NUMBER 12, AARON POINTED OUT A VERY IMPORTANT NUMBER I THINK FOR US. 
          I THINK IT WAS AARON, 78% OF ROUND ROCK ISD EMPLOYEES ENROLLED HAVE SINGLE COVERAGE. THAT'S A DATA POINT. 
          AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU GUYS TOLD US MOST OF THE SKYROCKETING COST OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM IS LIMITED TO A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ENROLLED IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN ARE UNDER SINGLE COVERAGE. 
          IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ZERO MONTHLY PREMIUM AND A $20 MONTHLY PREMIUM IS NOT SERVING AS A GREAT INCENTIVE. 
          EDDY, YOU'RE NODDING. THAT IS NOT SERVING AS A GREAT INCENTIVE TO MOVE THESE SINGLE-COVERAGE EMPLOYEES TO THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN, WHICH WE KNOW FROM THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SINGLE, BENEFITS THEM PERSONALLY AND IT BENEFITS THE EMPLOYER. 
          MY TAKEAWAY FROM TONIGHT HERE, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES LOOK BAD WITH ACCELERATING COSTS, WELL, THAT'S IF WE DO NOTHING AND REACT COUNTER TO TODD'S ADVICE TO DO SOMETHING BOLD. 
          MY TAKEAWAY HERE TONIGHT IS THAT THERE'S A BRIGHT SPOT AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO MAKE REAL POSITIVE CHANGE, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT MONEY DOESN'T GROW ON TREES. 
          I THINK IT'S EDUCATION. 
          I THINK IT'S PUTTING THE INCENTIVES IN PLACE AND THE MONTHLY PREMIUMS TO DRIVE BEHAVIOR. 
          BUT THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED WITH EDUCATION. 
          IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE WERE CONFRONTING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR 15 YEARS AGO. 
          BECAUSE WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID, HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE COSTS? FIVE PER CENT A YEAR, 8 PER CENT A YEAR, WE WERE DEALING WITH THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR 15 YEARS AGO. 
          THAT'S WHY WE MADE WHAT YOU SAID, BOLD CHANGES. 
          WE INCENTIVIZED OUR EMPLOYEES TO THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS. 
          WE JUST COULDN'T MAINTAIN THAT TRAJECTORY. 
          WHEN I LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER 9, IF THEY CAN PULL IT UP, THIS TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON, IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR STUDENTS. 
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A $16 MILLION DEFICIT. 
          IF WE DON'T MAKE ANY BOLD CHANGES THAT TODD IS ADVISING. 
          I SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND A BRIGHT SPOT TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AND PUT INCENTIVES IN PLACE TO DRIVE CHOICES THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM PERSONALLY AND BENEFIT US AS THE EMPLOYER. 
          >> TRUSTEE WEIR. HI, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          YOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF THE SLIDES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE CONTRIBUTION TEARING BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY FLUSHED OUT IN HERE AND IT MAY NOT BE FLUSHED OUT AT ALL YET. 
          BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT NOT JUST SALARIES, BUT ARE YOU LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER DATA THERE ARE IF SAY MOST OF OUR BUS DRIVERS ARE ON A FAMILY PLAN, $80-438 A MONTH IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THEM AND THEY'RE NOT OUR BIGGEST GROUP. 
          THEY'RE NOT OUR SINGLES. IS PART OF THE TIERED LOOKING AT THAT TYPE OF SITUATION? 
          >> YES. THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS ON THE SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE RUNNING IS LOOKING AT CONTRIBUTIONS STRATEGIES THAT IMPLEMENTS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT AUSTIN ISD DOES TODAY, WHICH IS THEY DO HAVE SALARY BANDING FOR THEIR HEALTH PLANS, SO THOSE THAT GET PAID MORE, PAY MORE FOR THE HEALTH PROGRAM. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          >> WHAT I'M HOPING IS MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE LOTS OF TIMES WHEN WE SAY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SINGLE COVERAGE ONLY AND IF YOU DO NEED THAT FAMILY COVERAGE, BUT YOU'RE ONE OF OUR LOWER PAID HOURLY WORKERS, OBVIOUSLY, THE HIT TO YOU IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE THAN IT WOULD BE TO ONE OF OUR HIGHER PAID WORKERS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          I HOPE IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE DEPTH TO THAT REVIEW OF THE TIERS. 
          >> YEAH, AND I HEAR YOU AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          JUST BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE DISTRICT HAS A SET FUNDING NUMBER AND SO IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FAMILY TEARS BECAUSE THE COST IS SO MUCH HIGHER. 
          >> THEN AS A FOLLOW-UP, MAYBE COULD WE AND THIS IS JUST ME AS ONE AND TRUSTEE. 
          BUT IF THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE TAKING OUR FAMILY PLANS ARE IN THE HOURLY RANGE, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT OFF AS AN OPTION ON THIS INCREASING OUR FAMILY COVERAGE. 
          IT'S 22% OF OUR POPULATION I UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO BUT. 
          >> THERE'S NOTHING. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE YET. 
          I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW. 
          EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT EDDY AND THE TEAM ARE DOING BESIDES WORKING OVERSEE WITHOUT GREAT FOLKS RIGHT HERE, IS THAT THEY HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT IS MADE UP OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE BUS DRIVERS ALSO ON THAT COMMITTEE, SIR? WOULD YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? 
          >> YEAH. WE'VE HELD THREE MEETINGS, KRISTEN, THREE MEETINGS NOW WHERE THEY'RE BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND IT'S HER FIRST GO AROUND AT THIS WITH OUR DISTRICT AND TO TRUST THE WESTERNS POINT, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS EDUCATION. 
          EVEN BRINGING THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER. 
          YOU'VE GOT SOME FOLKS WHO'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH BEFORE THEY COME TO THE MEETINGS BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MOMENTS WHEN THEY COME TO THOSE MEETINGS. 
          I FEEL THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PROCESS TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH TO GET THAT TIER 1 FEEDBACK FROM THOSE GROUPS. 
          I THINK IT'S ALSO WHAT AARON IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE SCENARIOS. 
          WE HAVE 5,800 EMPLOYEES WHO TAKE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, AND OF THOSE 5,800, ABOUT 1,000 OF THEM HAVE FAMILY COVERAGE. 
          IT'S ALL SHAPES AND SIZES, ALL DIFFERENT POSITIONS, ALL DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THROUGH THAT HEALTH INSURANCE AND THAT'S THE TRICKY PART RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS BECAUSE I KNOW THE EASY THING TO DO IS TO EITHER SAY, WELL, WE'LL ADD MORE MONEY TO THE DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION OR WE'LL ADD MORE MONEY TO THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION. 
          THE THING THAT I ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AND KRISTEN THINKS ABOUT IS OUR DEPARTMENT IS TOTAL REWARDS. 
          IT'S COMPENSATION AND HEALTH INSURANCE AND YOUR TOTAL REWARD PACKAGE, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG DOLLAR AT TIES TO THAT AND SO ANYTHING WE DO ON ONE SIDE DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE OTHER. 
          THAT'S JUST ALWAYS THE APPROACH THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. 
          DR. ZENITH, I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DO EMPLOYEES PREFER TO HAVE THE MONEY UPFRONT OR DO THEY PREFER TO HAVE THE MONEY IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE? DO THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR SALARY OR DO THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE? IT'S JUST THAT BALANCING ACT BECAUSE EVERY EMPLOYEE'S EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IS DIFFERENT. 
          WE HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES WHO NEED HEALTH INSURANCE AND THAT'S THE BIG THING FOR THEM. 
          WHEREAS SOME, IT'S NOT EVEN A FACTOR, THEY'LL TAKE THE MINIMUM PLAN THAT THEY JUST HAVE THE COVERAGE. 
          I JUST THINK THAT'S THE LENS THAT WE'RE TAKING WITH 
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OLIVER HEALTH INSURANCE AND IT'S VERY COMPLEX. 
          BUT PLEASE BE SURE THAT IT'S THE CHEAPER THAN AN ICEBERG A LITTLE BIT. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE BECAUSE EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE PUT IN PLACE IS DESIGNED TO HELP WITH MORE PROACTIVE WELLNESS APPROACH. 
          WITH THE GOAL BEING THAT WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS, MORE VARIETY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, AND WE CAN MAKE THAT EXPERIENCE BETTER FOR THEM. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THOSE COSTS AS MUCH AS WE CAN RIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTELY LOOKING INTO THOUGH. 
          >> I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I KNOW HSAS ARE PROBABLY INCREDIBLY GOOD FOR SOME PEOPLE. 
          I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PHONE CALLS YOU HAVE TO MAKE, THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK YOU HAVE TO DO AND IF YOU'RE TIRED AND IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME OF THAT. 
          I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY WHY PEOPLE TAKE SOME PEOPLE TAKE THE EASIER OPTION. 
          THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> THANK YOU. I'VE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          ACTUALLY I'LL START WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT ADDS ON SO WHAT TRUSTEE WEIR WAS SAYING. 
          WE HAVE A SINGLE AND A FAMILY PLAN AND I HAVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES I'VE WORKED FOR USUALLY THERE'S ANOTHER ONE CALLED SINGLE PLUS ADULT, SINGLE PLUS CHILDREN, SINGLE PLUS FAMILY, WHICH WOULD BE ADULTS AND CHILDREN, BUT WE DON'T DO THAT HERE. 
          >> THERE ARE. THERE'S FOUR TIERS. 
          WE'RE JUST SHOWING THIS. 
          >> I JUST NEED TO GO TO 20. 
          >> [LAUGHTER] WE'RE JUST SHOWING THIS FOR THE RANGE OF THE COST IMPACT FROM LEAST TO MOST. 
          >> BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU TRUSTEE WEIR OF THE FAMILY PLANS KEEPING THOSE. 
          THAT'S THE VALUE THAT WE SHARE. 
          THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, ON THE LAST SLIDE, YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR ADDITIONAL BUDGET, OR YOU START TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL BENEFITS, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COST THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING HERE THAT FOR THESE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS OR? 
          >> FOR THE VOLUNTARY BENEFITS, NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE DISTRICT AND THEY ARE 100% VOLUNTARY FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND SO IF THE EMPLOYER ELECTS THOSE BENEFITS THEN THE EMPLOYEE PAYS FOR THOSE BENEFITS, THERE'S NO COST TO THE DISTRICT FOR THOSE. 
          WE'LL ESSENTIALLY PASS THREE FOR THAT. 
          >> THAT'S JUST AN OFFERING. 
          >> YES, MA'AM JUST AN OFFERING, EXACTLY. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          >> PUSH IT IN, HOLD IT DOWN. 
          NO. TRUSTEE ZARATE. 
          >> THIS THING HATES ME. I WANTED TO GO BACK. 
          I JUST HAVE A REALLY QUICK QUESTION. 
          I SEE HERE THAT IN DURING THE GO FORWARD OPTIONS SLIDE 11, SOME ADDITIONAL STRATEGY IS DOWN HERE. 
          I WAS JUST LOOKING AT HOW REVIEWING THAT YOU DO SEPARATE NETWORKS OR WHATEVER. 
          WHAT ARE DEPENDENT ELIGIBILITY AUDITS? THAT SOUNDS SO [LAUGHTER] REAL SUSPECT FOR ME. 
          >> WE'VE ASKED THE QUESTION, DOES ROUND ROCK THING THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR DEPENDENTS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR YOUR PLAN? THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY. 
          [LAUGHTER] 
          >> CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? 
          >> SOMEONE THAT MIGHT BE COVERING THEIR GRANDCHILD, BUT THEY HAVEN'T ADOPTED THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE CUSTODY, LEGAL CUSTODY OR GUARDIANSHIP OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE COVERING THEIR GRANDCHILD AND MAYBE THEIR GRANDCHILD SICK. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY ELIGIBLE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY HIRING A THIRD-PARTY TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE THEY ASK ANYONE WHO'S COVERING ANY DEPENDENCE ON THE PLAN TO SUPPLY DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE AN ELIGIBLE DEPENDENT IF THEY ARE, THEY STAY ON THEIR PLAN. 
          NO ISSUES. BUT IF THEY CAN'T SUPPLY THAT DOCUMENTATION, THEN THEY'RE REMOVED FROM THE PLAN. 
          >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF SPILLAGE IS THERE FOR US RIGHT NOW OR NO? JUST A GUESSTIMATE, DO YOU MAYBE KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE DOING THAT? 
          >> IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY. 
          >> YEAH, I FIGURED. 
          >> IT'S HARD TO SAY. 
          >> I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, BUT I'M TAKING A FLYER TO 3% MAYBE. 
          >> SO IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT BUT IT'S ENOUGH, YEAH. 
          >> I THINK AARON HIT ON IT. 
          >> SOMETIMES FOLKS MAY DO THIS JUST UNKNOWINGLY. HONEST ERROR. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO REALLY NEEDS HEALTH CARE AT A PARTICULAR FLIGHT, MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE INCLINED TO BEND THE RULES AND IN THAT CLAIM THEN FALLS ONTO YOUR PLAN WHICH IS, IT'S HEARTBREAKING IN TOTAL THE WHOLE THING. 
          BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ESTABLISH RULES THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ON YOUR PLAN AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RULE. 
          >> THANKS. 
          >> BUT EVEN IF THERE WAS A CHILD WHO WASN'T ELIGIBLE TO BE COVERED UNDER OUR PLAN, 
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I BELIEVE THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A CHEAP PLAN. 
          >> YES. 
          >> THANK YOU. I HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          YOU STARTED THIS PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT ARE STOPPED LOSS LEVEL OF 500,000. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OPTIONS FOR INCREASING OR DECREASING? I'M SURE WE PAY A PREMIUM FOR OUR STOP-LOSS COVERAGE. 
          HAVE WE DONE ANY COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS IF WE LOWERED THAT STOP-LOSS LEVEL TO 200,000 AND HOW MUCH THE PREMIUM WOULD INCREASE AND DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY MONEY BACK UP THAT WAY? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. 
          >> GREAT QUESTION. IT WAS DONE TWO YEARS AGO AND WE MOVED IT FROM 400 TO 500. 
          THE ONLY WAY TO DO AN ANALYSIS TO LOOK BACKWARDS. 
          THEN YOU JUST STATISTICALLY WORK IT OUT. 
          IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO PEG IT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF CLIENT LARGE CLAIM ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. 
          BUT WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT, ALREADY BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES AND WEIGHING HOW MUCH THE ADDITIONAL PREMIUM IS VERSUS HOW MUCH IT REDUCES YOUR RISK. 
          >> GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> SORRY, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT STOP-LOSS IS VIEWED AS A 12 MONTH CONTRACT. 
          THAT IS THE PIECE OF YOUR INSURANCE THAT IS LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          THAT USUALLY COMES UP LATER IN THE FALL BECAUSE THE STOP-LOSS CARRIERS WHEN SO MANY MONTHS OF CLAIMS. BUT THAT'S LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          >> THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST CAN'T PLAN FOR THAT ARE TYPICALLY CATASTROPHIC. 
          NOT NECESSARILY. MY YOUNGEST IS A BILLION-DOLLAR BABY. 
          HE WAS $1 MILLION BY THE TIME HE WAS SIX MONTHS OLD. 
          YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          THERE'S NO WAY TO PLAN FOR IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THOSE THING. 
          YOU DIDN'T PLANS SICKNESS LEVELS, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT STOP-LOSS. 
          I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, SO I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE. 
          NEXT QUESTION IS ON SLIDE 12. 
          FIRST, LET ME GO BACK TO SLIDE 9. 
          WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE FORECASTED DEFICITS. 
          ALL THE DECISIONS FOR BENEFITS FOR THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR HAD BEEN MADE. 
          IS ENROLLMENTS HAPPENED, IS THAT CORRECT? COMMUNICATION ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE GOING TO COST, ALL THAT'S HAPPENED. 
          >> YOUR PLAN IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST EACH YEAR. 
          ANY CHANGES THAT ARE DECIDED UPON WON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR. 
          THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ACTIVELY HAPPENING WITH EDDY AND KRISTEN AND TEAM TO GO THROUGH OPTIONS. 
          >> I GUESS MY QUESTION RELATES BACK TO SLIDE 8 OF ONLY A $20 A MONTH INCREASE AND THEN FORECASTING STILL A $4,000,000 DEFICIT WITH THAT INCREASE. 
          WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE IN SAYING, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO RAISE THAT BY $20? ON SLIDE 12 WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TODD, YOU SAID THAT, NO IT WAS ON SLIDE 10, YOU SAID THAT THE OTHER OPTION IS TO INCREASE DISTRICT FUNDING AND WE UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT. 
          LET ME SAY THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO INCREASE THE DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION FOR ALL OF THIS AND NOT HAVE RATES GO UP. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          GETTING BACK TO THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE IN LOOKING AT ONLY A $20 INCREASE THAT WOULD STILL FORECAST US FOR SUCH A DEFICIT? BECAUSE THAT'S SHOCKING NUMBER TO ME TO LOOK AT. 
          WE'VE STILL GOT TO PULL 4.3 MILLION OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO COVER THIS LOSS. 
          >> TWO THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, THE CLAIM JUST CONTINUED TO RISE. 
          WE RE-FORECASTED WITH THIS INFORMATION YOU ARE LOOKING AT. 
          AT THAT TIME IT'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS BASICALLY. THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT. 
          THE OTHER PART IS THAT GOING BACK TO JUST THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE DISTRICT JUST BEING LOCKED INTO A $0 PLAN AND THE INTRODUCTION OF THE HMO, WE FELT WAS A GOOD FIRST STEP TO START TO PIVOT, TO GET EMPLOYEES COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, AND THEN OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THAT LATER IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          THAT'S A SHORT ANSWER. 
          >> THEN MY LAST QUESTION GOES BACK TO SLIDE 12, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR EMPLOYEES AND RAISING RATES 
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AND FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON HAS SAID OF ENCOURAGING OUR EMPLOYEES MORE TOWARDS THE HSA FORMAT. 
          I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WENT THAT ROUTE AND IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TRUST ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT HOW DOES IT ULTIMATELY AFFECT OUR BOTTOM LINE IF WE DID FUNNEL A LOT MORE OF OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE RAISE THE RATE SO MUCH THAT THEY FUNNELED TOWARDS THESE $0 PLANS. 
          THEY END UP BEING SOME OF OUR HIGHEST PAID OUT PREMIUMS. HOW DOES THAT HELP US IN LONG-TERM SAVINGS FOR OUR DISTRICT? 
          >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT'S TRICKY. 
          OVERALL, WHAT YOU HOPE WITH A HIGH-DEDUCTIBLE HSA PLAN, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED MORE, THAT THEY'RE MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS AND SEEKING OUT LESS COSTLY HEALTH CARE. 
          THERE ARE SOME NEW THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR INDUSTRY ON SOME RULES THAT THE CARRIERS HAVE SOME TOOLS THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THAT. 
          OUR INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT IS A BOTTOM LINE. 
          HOSPITALS, DOCTORS, INSURANCE COMPANIES. 
          EXTRACTING THAT AND SORTING YOUR WAY THROUGH IT AS CHALLENGING, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 
          IF YOU CAN GET PEOPLE ENGAGED AND THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO SAVE THEIR DOLLARS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR HSA AND MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, THEN THAT'S THE BEST THING FOR EVERYBODY. 
          WHEN WE'RE SETTING THESE PLANS UP AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE FUNDING OF EACH ONE OF THE PLANS, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL TO LOOK AT THOSE BUCKETS AND NOT MOVE IT THE WRONG DIRECTION. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE $100,000 CLAIM OR $1,000,000 CLAIM AND YOUR EXAMPLE AND PLOP IT INTO AN HSA PLAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          IT'S STILL $1,000,000 CLAIM. 
          WE'RE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          THEN, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IF YOU CAN GET SOMEONE IN A MORE EFFICIENT MODEL, LIKE THE BLUE CROSS HMO MODEL IS DEFINITELY MORE EFFICIENT FROM JUST A NET COST STANDPOINT FOR THE SAME CLAIM. 
          THE MORE FOLKS YOU CAN GET TO MIGRATE TO THAT, THE BETTER OFF EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF COST CONTROL. 
          BUT WE TRIED TO SET THE PROGRAMS UP IN A WAY WHERE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO THE DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE ENROLL, THAT IF THEY ENROLLED IN A MORE COST-EFFICIENT PLAN, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THAT BY PAYING LESS PREMIUM. 
          THEY'RE OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECKS. 
          >> THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WESTON HAS RELIED ON NOW. 
          >> PART OF THE EDUCATION, I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS UP HERE. 
          BUT WHEN YOU START TO EDUCATE YOUR WORKFORCE, PART OF THAT IS EXPLAINING, IF YOU'RE A YOUNG FAMILY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO GROW YOUR FAMILY AND HAVE CHILDREN, A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU. 
          IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR FAMILY THAT HAS A CHRONIC ILLNESS, A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU. 
          IF YOU'RE OVER 50, A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR NODDING, MR. CURRAN. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD COME OUT IN THE EDUCATION PIECE. 
          BUT WHEN WE SEE THAT 78% OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE SINGLE COVERAGE, MY GUESS IS THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE. 
          PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, TODD AND AARON. 
          MY GUESS IS THERE IS THIS SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THAT 78% WHO, IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY COULD TAX-FREE SOCK AWAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          IF THEY ARE GENERALLY IN GOOD HEALTH AND GROW A NEST EGG, THAT THERE WOULD BE WORTH THEM CONSIDERING. I'M I WRONG? 
          >> YOU'RE CORRECT FOR THEM INDIVIDUALLY, YES. 
          >> BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THIS AND TRANSITIONING A FIRM INTO THIS AND THE HARDEST PART IS THE EDUCATION PIECE. 
          BUT ONCE YOU OVERCOME THAT, YOU ADDRESS OUT OF CONTROL COSTS AND EMPLOYEES, MOST OF THEM, MOST OF THE TIME, REALLY START TO UNDERSTAND THE PHYSICAL BENEFITS TO THEMSELVES. 
          I HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK DURING THAT TIME. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THEM SAYING THAT THEY WERE HAVING TO MAKE PHONE CALLS AT 08:00 AT NIGHT. 
          I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ON HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS THAT HAVE A PPO PLANS THAT STRUGGLE WITH PAPERWORK AND STRUGGLE WITH THE LOGISTICS. 
          IS THAT BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCE FRUSTRATION WITH VARIOUS PLANS WITH VARIOUS CARRIERS. 
          IT'S NOT LIMITED TO ANY ONE PARTICULAR PLAN. I'M I WRONG? 
          >> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> HEALTH CARE IS CHALLENGING FOR SURE ON ALL FRONTS. 
          >> THANK YOU. YES, IT IS. I AGREE. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, 
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SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, THE EDUCATION FOR US TODAY, AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE BETTER NEWS NEXT TIME. 
          >> FOR SURE WE HOPE TO DELIVER THAT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND ATTENTION. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> YOU KNOW WHAT? CAN WE TAKE A SHORT RECESS. 
          IT IS 07:05. 
          LET'S TAKE 10 MINUTES AND COME BACK AT 07:15. 
          IT IS 7:15, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION, WE DIDN'T GO OUT OF OPEN, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CURRAN. 
          >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, EVERYBODY. 
          TONIGHT IS A LITTLE BIT DELAYED. 
          THIS IS NORMALLY SOMETHING WE BRING TO THE BOARD IN APRIL EVERY YEAR, A COMPENSATION PLAN OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A VERY STRANGE YEAR. 
          WE'RE STILL WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE LEDGE, BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO GIVE AS BEST INFORMATION AS WE CAN AT THIS POINT WITH WHAT WE KNOW. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS PRESENTED TONIGHT IN ADDITION TO A THIRD SLIDE FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL, SO I'M JUST GOING TO RIDE ALONG WITH THE SLIDES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. 
          OPTION 1 FOR THE COMPENSATION PLAN WOULD BE TO ADOPT A 2% GENERAL PAY INCREASE AND THE HIGHLIGHTS WOULD INCLUDE IMPLEMENTING PAY STRUCTURE ADJUSTMENTS TO ALIGN WITH ANTICIPATED MARKET VALUES IN ALL PAY STRUCTURES FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, SO 2% OF GENERAL PAY INCREASE IN ALL PAY STRUCTURES. 
          THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR TEACHER/LIBRARIAN STARTING SALARY 53,000-53,800. 
          IT WOULD PROVIDE A 1,175 GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE A 2% OF MIDPOINT INCREASE FOR ALL OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          WE'VE MENTIONED THESE IN THE PAST. 
          BASICALLY, WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTIONAL PATHWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE TEACHERS WHO MAY GET PROMOTED INTO COUNSELOR ROLES OR ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL ROLES, SO SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PATHWAYS STILL MAKE SENSE FOR FOLKS AS THEY PROMOTE THROUGH THE SYSTEM. 
          THIS NUMBER MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU. 
          I BELIEVE DENNIS HAS PRESENTED THIS NUMBER A COUPLE OF TIMES IN PREVIOUS WORKSHOPS. 
          THE COST OF A 2% MODEL WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $8.6 MILLION. 
          OPTION 2. 
          THE REASON FOR THIS NUMBER IS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALL HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ON EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW AND THE 5% ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR FOR TEACHERS. 
          WE PROVIDED A 5% INCREASE FOR TEACHERS LAST YEAR. 
          EARLIER IN THE SESSION, WE FELT A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT THAT THIS WOULD BE A FEASIBLE NUMBER. 
          WE ACTUALLY FELT AT ONE POINT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. 
          HOWEVER, WE WANTED TO GIVE THIS AS A POINT OF REFERENCE TONIGHT IN TERMS OF A SECOND OPTION JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE COST. 
          THE SAME PAY STRUCTURE ADJUSTMENTS ONLY WITH A 5% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS AND A 5% MIDPOINT INCREASE FOR ALL OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS. 
          THIS WOULD INCREASE OUR STARTING SALARY TO 55,500. 
          THAT'S $2,500 HIGHER THAN OUR CURRENT STARTING SALARY BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE ALL TEACHERS WITH A GENERAL PAY INCREASE OF $2,925. 
          FOR POINT OF REFERENCE, OUR PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS THIS YEAR WAS? 
          >> TWENTY-EIGHT. 
          >> $2,800, SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS YEAR FOR A GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS. 
          AGAIN, THOSE TASB ADJUSTMENTS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE OVERALL COST TO THE TUNE OF $19.4 MILLION APPROXIMATELY FOR 5% INCREASE. 
          OPTION 3, YOU'LL RECALL AND WE THANK OUR BOARD AND WE CONTINUE TO THANK OUR BOARD FOR THE STIPENDS THAT THEY APPROVED IN OCTOBER THIS YEAR. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO PUT SOME THINGS, SOME ONE-TIME STIPENDS IN PLACE. 
          ONETIME STIPENDS ARE NOT TRS ELIGIBLE GENERALLY AND SO THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE OUT OF FUND BALANCE BUT WOULDN'T HAVE A RECURRING COST YEAR- UPON-YEAR. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR FOR LONGEVITY STIPENDS, SPECIAL ED STIPENDS, AND STUDENT TEACHER HIRING BONUS AND SIGN-ON BONUSES. 
          THESE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED NEXT YEAR WITH THAT SAME CONCEPT OF USING THAT ONE-TIME STIPEND APPROACH. 
          THESE WOULD NOT BE TRS-ELIGIBLE STIPENDS, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE COUNTED IN AN EMPLOYEE'S TOTAL COMPENSATION FOR RETIREMENT PURPOSES, 
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BUT THEY WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION THAT EMPLOYEES IN THESE GROUPS WOULD RECEIVE. 
          A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS. 
          I REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU IN PARTICULAR, SECONDARY MATHEMATICS IS A BIG AREA OF SHORTAGE RIGHT NOW, NOT JUST FOR OUR DISTRICT, BUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ACROSS THE STATE AS WELL. 
          MATH HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIFFICULT TO HIRE FOR, BUT WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASED DEARTH OF CANDIDATES. 
          THAT WAS A DOUBLE NEGATIVE, SORRY. 
          WE'VE SEEN A DEARTH OF CANDIDATES AND IT'S DEFINITELY GETTING EXACERBATED. 
          WHAT WE'RE ALSO SEEING IN OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE AREA IS THEY'VE STARTED TO IMPLEMENT THE STIPEND FOR MATH. 
          HUTTO HAS A $5,000 STIPEND. 
          I THINK PFLUGERVILLE IS COMPARABLE TO THAT. 
          THERE ARE FOUR OF THE PEER DISTRICTS THAT WE SURVEY AGAINST THAT ALREADY HAD THEM IN PLACE THIS YEAR, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MORE WOULD TRY TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE NEXT YEAR. 
          AUSTIN ISD HAS JUST APPROVED THE MATH STIPEND FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS SPANISH. 
          SPANISH CONTINUES TO BE A REAL CHALLENGING AREA FOR US TO FIND AND SECURE TEACHERS FOR. 
          I THINK PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE PROVIDE A BILINGUAL DUAL LANGUAGE STIPEND FOR ELEMENTARY, BUT WE DON'T YET OFFER DUAL LANGUAGE IN SECONDARY. 
          SO A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU WANT TO BE A SECONDARY TEACHER AND YOU'RE A SPANISH SPEAKER, YOU CAN GET SPANISH CERTIFIED. 
          BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEN THOSE TEACHERS KNOW WHAT THE BILINGUAL STIPEND AND THEY'LL CHOOSE THAT PATHWAY RATHER THAN SECONDARY AS WELL. 
          THERE'S DEFINITELY A BENEFIT THERE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR FOLKS TO COME TO ROUND ROCK, AND SO THOSE TWO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          THE OTHER PIECE IS AGAIN, SPECIAL EDUCATION. 
          WHILE OUR ENROLLMENT REMAINS FLAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS YEAR IT WAS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, OUR SPECIAL ED STUDENT ENROLLMENT CONTINUES TO GROW YEAR UPON YEAR, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED TO FIND AND SECURE MORE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS. 
          WITH THAT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE IN THAT AREA TOO SO THIS IS WHY WE HAVE PRESENTED THAT OPTION. 
          SPECIAL EDUCATION ASSISTANCE, THE SAME CONCEPT. 
          THE MORE SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS WE HAVE, THE MORE SERVICES WE NEED TO PROVIDE AND OUR EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANTS DO A GREAT JOB AND ARE REALLY FUNDAMENTAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROGRAM, SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS AN AREA THAT IF WE COULD SECURE FUNDING FOR, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          THESE ARE THE ESTIMATED COSTS. 
          WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE OPTION 1 COSTS AND A BREAKOUT BY THE USUAL GROUPINGS THAT WE SHOW TO THE BOARD WHENEVER TASB COMES AND PRESENTS. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED AND THEN THE COST OF A GENERAL PAY INCREASE AND ADJUSTMENTS FOR EACH OF THE GROUPS LISTED. 
          BACK TO THE 2% MODEL, WE'D BE LOOKING AT ALMOST SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS ALL-IN, WITH ABOUT 4.75 OF THAT FOR TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS AND ANOTHER TWO MILLION TO INSTRUCTIONAL EXEMPT STAFF, AND YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITIONAL BREAKOUTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE. 
          THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE OPTION 2, WHICH IS THE 5% MODEL FOR THAT AND IT'S GOT THE SAME GROUPS BROKEN OUT AND WHAT THE COST PER EACH GROUP WOULD COST THEN THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THOSE PAY INCREASES. 
          THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS. 
          KRISTEN AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY COMPENSATION QUESTIONS AND MY FRIEND MR. COVINGTON HAS SAT AT THE BOTTOM FOR ALL THE MONEY QUESTIONS. 
          >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. COVINGTON, BEFORE WE START TAKING QUESTIONS, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS, DO YOU WANT US TO HOLD THOSE CONVERSATION QUESTIONS UNTIL WE GO OVER THE BUDGET, OR? 
          >> YES. 
          >> YES? 
          >> YES. 
          >> OKAY. JUST IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPTIONS THAT HE'S PRESENTING, NOT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT YET. 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> OKAY. TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE MAY WALK THE LINE THERE. 
          MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE UNDER THOSE ONE-TIME INCENTIVES TO WRITE WHAT I THINK MAY BE WRONG IN THAT WE DIDN'T CONSIDER EVERYONE THAT TOOK THE READING ACADEMIES IN THAT STIPEND. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THAT? LIKE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES, ITS LIBRARIANS, I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES GOT THE READING ACADEMIES STIPEND. 
          >> WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED THE READING ACADEMY INCENTIVE FOR '23, '24. 
          IN TERMS OF FOR '22, '23 FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THAT WAS A RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND SO I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER FOR THIS YEAR. 
          >> I THINK WE STRUGGLED WITH THE WORDING ON THAT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A WAY TO FIX THAT. 
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          >> I THINK IT'S ONLY A SMALL NUMBER THAT WE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BREAK THE BANK IF YOU WILL. 
          IT'S REALLY A SMALL NUMBER, BUT I THINK INITIALLY, ONE OF THE PROS I THINK WAS JUST THE TEACHERS AND THEY WERE A BIG NUMBER IF OUR TEACHERS OBVIOUSLY TOOK IT. 
          BUT THEN I THINK WE ADDED, DIDN'T WE ADD I THINK ANOTHER CATEGORY? 
          >> THERE WAS INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES THAT WERE ADDED. 
          >> COACHES ALSO RECEIVED IT. 
          I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ONES, IT'S REALLY LIKE AP'S AND SMALLER NUMBER IF YOU WILL, TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A PATHWAY AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT FUTURE FORWARD. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON, CAN I JUST CLARIFY? I'M SORRY, KRISTEN CORRECTED ME. 
          IT WAS NOT INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES. 
          THAT WAS JUST FOR TEACHERS. 
          THE READING ACADEMIES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          >> WE ADDED SOMEONE ELSE, BUT IT WASN'T THE FULL BREADTH OF EVERYONE THAT TOOK THE READING. 
          >> WE ADDED THE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES FOR THE LONGEVITY STIPEND, SO WE HAD THAT INCENTIVE FOR TEACHERS AND THEN A SEPARATE LONGEVITY STIPEND FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES, BUT WE INCLUDED THE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES IN THE LONGEVITY STIPEND. 
          >> OKAY. I'LL MAKE A SEPARATE REQUEST FOR THAT SINCE YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE FIXING SOMETHING FROM THIS YEAR AND NOT MOVING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR. 
          MY SECOND QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS. 
          I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE 5%. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IN A SITUATION, AND SO MR. COVINGTON, YOU MAY TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT JUST IN BROAD TERMS, SAY LEGISLATIVE SESSION GOES BETTER THAN IT'S GOING RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S INCREASED PER-STUDENT FUNDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IF WE WERE TO APPROVE EITHER 2% OR 5%, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR REVISITING THAT EVEN AFTER THE BUDGET PASSES? 
          >> WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT AND WE ALWAYS WELCOME GREAT NEWS. 
          REMEMBER WHAT WE WERE ASKING IS TO ADJUST FOR INFLATION TO ALL THESE TRADERS TO GIVE US $900. 
          IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S WHAT EDDY WAS SAYING, WE ARE HOPING FOR THAT AND THAT PROBABLY CAN TAKE US MAYBE TO 6%. 
          IF LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THEY GO ALL THE WAY IN AND THEY GIVE US THE $900 INCREASE IN BASIC ALLOTMENT, THEN WE ALWAYS CAN COME BACK AND BRING THE AMENDMENT AND HAVE OUR BOARD HOPEFULLY APPROVE IT AND THEN WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THAT. IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE AT ALL. 
          >> GOOD TO KNOW AS WE'RE APPROACHING THIS TOUGH BUDGET SITUATION AND TOUGH BUDGET CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. 
          >> TRUSTEE WEIR AND THEN TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR MR. COVINGTON, BUT I DO HAVE ONE FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER AND ASSISTANCE. 
          THE INCENTIVE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AISD BECAUSE THEY HAVE APPARENTLY A LOT OF MONEY TO GIVE. 
          IS THIS ENOUGH TO KEEP OUR STAFF HERE? 
          >> THE BIG AISD PUSH HAS BEING FOR THEIR SPECIAL ED EVALUATION STAFF, AND THAT'S BEEN THE BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN ADVERTISED A LOT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK NECESSARILY ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS TOO MUCH, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION IN THE NEWS ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF APPROACHES THEY'RE TAKING TO PAY FOR THEIR STIPENDS AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT SAME LUXURY TO BE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW. 
          ALL THAT TO BE SAID, WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN OUR DISTRICT AND I'M CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT WE HAVE REALLY GOOD SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS AND TEACHING ASSISTANTS AND I FEEL THAT BY PROVIDING THIS STIPEND, IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE SELF-CONTAINED STIPENDS THAT WE ALREADY PROVIDE, IT ALLOWS US TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND I THINK IN TALKING WITH TEACHERS, PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY STAY IS CERTAINLY COMPENSATION, BUT PART OF THE REASON IS ALSO BEING PART OF A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED IN PLACE. 
          I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD BRIDGE TO THAT. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO ADD, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT I READ IN THE NEWS. 
          OBVIOUSLY, I DIDN'T TALK TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE GONE LIKE IN THE DEFICIT ABOUT 63 OR 65 MILLION, $67 MILLION. 
          I GUESS THEY HAVE THE REASON TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THEM GOING INTO A DEFICIT BUDGET. 
          HOPEFULLY, AGAIN, THAT THE ILLUSTRATORS MIGHT DO SOMETHING. 
          BUT 60 SO MANY DOLLARS FOR US WOULD BE [LAUGHTER] PROBLEMATIC FOR SURE. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> THANK YOU. ON THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, I DO WONDER IF I WERE TO GO PULL THESE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS AND EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE AND THE SECONDARY MATHEMATICS AND SECONDARY SPANISH, AND I ASKED THEM AND SAID, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE A YEARLY STIPEND THAT DOESN'T GO INTO TRS OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THAT PUT INTO YOUR SALARY? WHAT WOULD THEY SAY? WHAT WOULD THEIR ANSWERS BE MAJORITY WISE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE? OVERWHELMINGLY. 
          >> I'M ALWAYS SPECULATING. 
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I NEVER WANT TO ASSUME THAT I KNOW HOW OUR TEACHERS FEEL, BUT I THINK ANYTIME THAT IT'S HARD FOR A TEACHER TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND IT'S HARD FOR A TEACHER TO MAKE ENDS MEET WHEN THEY RETIRE. 
          ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT TRS RETIREMENT FUNDS. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          WITHOUT PUTTING WORDS AND OUR TEACHERS MOUTHS, I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE OUR COMPENSATION TRS ELIGIBLE IS DEFINITELY OUR PREFERRED APPROACH. 
          THE ISSUE IS THOUGH WITH ONETIME STIPENDS, THOSE DON'T RECUR YEAR UPON YEAR AND SO WHEN YOU'RE USING FUND BALANCE FOR THOSE TYPES OF ONE TIMES AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MR. COVINGTON HERE. 
          I WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO, BECAUSE HE'LL THROW A SHOE AT ME OR SOMETHING IN A MINUTE, BUT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING THAT RECURRING COST TO THOSE ONETIME STIPENDS. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS TO WHAT THAT DOES THEN. 
          >> YEAH. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT FUND BALANCE AND THAT IT'S LIKE DATING SOMEBODY AND GETTING MARRIED. 
          IT'S LIKE EITHER A SHORT-TERM COMMITMENT OR A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT. 
          WHEN WE START TAKING OUT A FUN, BALANCE BUT FOR ME, MY COMMITMENT TO THE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS AND EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE, THE MATHEMATICS AND SPANISH WOULD ACTUALLY BE TO STOP DOING THESE YEARLY STIPENDS AND ACTUALLY ROLL IT INTO THEIR SALARIES SO THAT IT IS TRS ELIGIBLE. 
          THAT'S JUST A VALUE THAT I HAVE. 
          WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE STIPENDS YEAR OVER YEAR, AND I THINK THIS WOULD JUST SOLIDIFY THAT THIS ISN'T A STIPEND. 
          YOU'RE NOT A FIRST-YEAR TEACHER. 
          YOU ARE SOMEBODY THAT'S VERY VALUED BY OUR DISTRICT. 
          I THINK IT JUST MAKES A STATEMENT AND THAT'S WHY I USE THE DATING VERSUS MARRIED. 
          I JUST THINK IT MAKES A STATEMENT THAT WE VALUE YOU. 
          WE ARE TAKING THIS OUT OF FUND BALANCE. 
          WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ANYWAYS, RIGHT? THE MONEY IS COMING OUT OF FUND BALANCE ANYWAYS. ANYONE OPINION. 
          >> DOCTOR BONUS TO UNDERSTAND SO WE CAN TAKE NOTE. 
          ARE YOU SAYING LIKE WE CAN DO SIX MILLION EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD FROM A FUND BALANCE? 
          >> NOT SIX MILLION BECAUSE I'M NOT INCLUDING EVERYBODY. 
          I'M ONLY INCLUDING SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS, THE EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> THE SECONDARY MATHEMATICS. 
          SECONDARY MATHEMATICS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DECREASE THEIR SALARY. 
          THESE STIPENDS AREN'T GOING AWAY. 
          THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND THEN THE ONE THAT I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH IS A VISITING INTERNATIONAL TEACHER, REALLY COHESION STIPEND. 
          WE DON'T GIVE RELOCATION STIPENDS TO ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT STIPEND. 
          I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT VOTE FOR A BUDGET THAT HAD THAT IN THERE. 
          I WOULD ACTUALLY BE OKAY WITH MOVING THAT UP IF WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING SPANISH, IF THAT'S WHAT THOSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          I'D BE OKAY WITH MOVING THOSE STIPENDS TO THE SECONDARY SPANISH. 
          I GUESS MAYBE IF THEY'RE COMING IN A WAY, THEY'RE GETTING IT. 
          BUT IT WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE LOCAL PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE JOBS AND TAKE THAT 3,000 AND MAYBE MOVE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT THAT ONE BOTHERS ME BECAUSE I WOULD WANT TO INCENTIVIZE AND MAKE IT EQUITABLE OF WHERE INCENTIVIZING EVERYBODY TO APPLY FOR THAT JOB AND GET THAT MONEY. 
          NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE AN INTERNATIONAL PERSON. 
          >> NO, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE REASON WHY WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO NATURALLY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY LOCALLY TO GET IT. 
          >> BUT MONEY IS A GREAT INCENTIVE ADVISOR. 
          THE MORE MONEY YOU CAN THROW AT THEM LOCALLY, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE THAT WILL DO IT. 
          THEN IF THEY WANT TO COME INTERNATIONALLY, THEY'RE GETTING THE STIPEND RIGHT ANYWAYS, SO I'M ASSUMING IF YOU'RE A SECONDARY SPANISH TEACHER AND YOU'RE COMING INTERNATIONALLY, YOU'RE STILL GETTING. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN MAYBE THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT STIPEND. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE SPIRIT EXCHANGE TEACHERS WHO CAME TO US THIS YEAR AND FOUR OF THEM ARE SERVING AND DUAL LANGUAGE CLASSROOMS, AND ONE IS SERVING IN A SECONDARY MATH CLASSROOM, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE RECURRING COSTS EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO JUST GET HERE. 
          THEY HAVE TO PAY FEES IN ORDER TO GET HERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SOME OF OUR PEER DISTRICTS ARE EXPLORING THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM TOO AND SO THEY ARE PUTTING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN PLACE TO HELP COVER THE COST OF THE FEES. 
          THAT'S JUST THE REASON BEHIND IT. 
          I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK IT'S JUST IT'S NOT IT'S INTENTIONAL BEHIND THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL. 
          >> I THINK MY THINKING IS THAT MONEY INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE. 
          IF YOU, INSTEAD HERE YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING AND GROUP INSTEAD OF TARGETING GROUP DOES OPEN IT UP, IF YOU'RE COMING FROM CALIFORNIA, MAYBE YOU'RE COMING FROM ARIZONA. 
          THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT INTERNATIONAL, THEY WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THAT, BUT IT WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW THEM THEN TO BE AVAILABLE FOR IT. 
          MAYBE THEIR SPOUSE IS MOVING HERE AND MAYBE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO WORK, BUT THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THIS DISTRICT REALLY VALUE SPANISH TEACHER, SO WE'LL WORK. 
          I JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S CLOSING OFF THAT MONEY TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT APPLY FOR THOSE JOBS THAT WE NEED. 
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          >> TRUSTEE WESTON. AS LEADERS, I JUST THINK WE'RE CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING A 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF EVENTS AND REALITIES. 
          MR. CURRAN, YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED, A PEER DISTRICTS. 
          CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? 
          >> EVERY YEAR. 
          >> WHAT'S A PEAR DISTRICT? 
          >> LIKE A LOCAL PEER. 
          SO THE LOCAL PEER DISTRICTS THAT WE USUALLY PRESENT WHEN WE TALK. 
          WHEN IT HAS BECOME SO LIKE LEANDER GEORGETOWN SLAVERY BILL AUSTIN ISD DEL VALLEY MATER HAYS THOSE ARE LOCAL PEERS. 
          >> THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT OR THINK ABOUT PEER DISTRICTS WOULD BE DISTRICTS OF THE SAME SIZE AS US. 
          >> YEAH, WE DO COMPARE TO OTHER DISTRICTS WITH SIMILAR SIZE IN CERTAIN POSITIONS AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. 
          >> MAYBE ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU COULD THINK OF PEER DISTRICTS WOULD BE SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          A SUBURBAN DISTRICT VERSUS AN URBAN DISTRICT VERSUS A RURAL DISTRICT. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO THINK ABOUT PEER DISTRICTS. 
          THERE WAS A TEACHER THAT SENT US AN EMAIL LAST MONTH INFORMING THE BOARD OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN SAN ANTONIO ISD. 
          ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS? 
          >> YES, MA'AM I AM. 
          >> CAN YOU BRIEF US ON THAT? 
          >> I HAVEN'T PREPARED A BRIEF ON SAN ANTONIO ISD TONIGHT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND GET IT TO YOU. 
          >> NO, I'M DEFINITELY NOT ASKING THAT. 
          I CAN GIVE A HIGH LEVEL, SO SAN ANTONIO ISD, I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH IT. 
          I WAS STATIONED AT RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE DOWN THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          BUT THEY'RE A DISTRICT ALMOST IDENTICAL IN SIZE TO US. 
          LITTLE OVER 45,000 STUDENTS. 
          SOME SUBURBAN, SOME URBAN, SIMILAR TO US. 
          SIMILAR BUDGET, SIMILAR WORKFORCE AND LAST MONTH, THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE CUTTING $16 MILLION OUT OF THEIR CENTRAL OFFICE BUDGET. 
          THEY CITED, "THE URGENT NEED TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN TOP TIER TEACHERS AND MORE TEACHERS AND THAT THAT DROVE THE BOARD. 
          IT OVERSHADOWED THE ENTIRE BOARD DISCUSSION ON SALARIES AND RAISES." IN ADDITION TO THE $16 MILLION IN CENTRAL OFFICE CUTS THAT THEY ANNOUNCED, THEY ALSO SAID THAT NEXT YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO CUT SIX MILLION DOLLARS IN CENTRAL OFFICE. 
          MY REQUEST OF THIS BOARD REMAINS THE SAME TODAY AS IT DID WHEN I WAS ELECTED OVER TWO YEARS AGO. 
          THAT IS TO CONDUCT AN EXTERNAL AUDIT OF ALL SPENDING, BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS THAT JUST LIKE IN OUR OWN LIVES WITH OUR OWN FAMILY BUDGETS, THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS. 
          THERE ARE ONLY TRADEOFFS. 
          THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING MR. KERN. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S NOT A RIGHT ANSWER. 
          YOU JUST EITHER GET THIS OR YOU GET THAT. 
          YOU HAVE THIS PRIORITY OR YOU HAVE THAT PRIORITY. 
          AND THESE ARE JUST LOCAL MANAGERIAL DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, MAKE DIFFERENT LOCAL MANAGERIAL DECISIONS. 
          IN SAN ANTONIO ISD, THE URGENT NEED AND THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THEIR BOARD, THE URGENT NEED TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST AND MORE TEACHERS OVERSHADOWED THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION OF SALARIES AND RAISES. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER A HALF-BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS MEANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM. 
          WE HAVE A SPENDING PRIORITIES PROBLEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE LEGISLATURE. 
          BUT I DO KNOW THAT THIS BOARD CONTROLS THIS BUDGET AND CONTROLS THIS MONEY. 
          WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME REAL SCRUTINY GIVEN TO THE SPENDING PRIORITIES. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE $16 MILLION IN CUTS THAT CAN BE MADE IN THE CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY WE DO AUDITS. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HIRE THIRD PARTIES TO COME IN BECAUSE THE THIRD PARTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY SACRED COW. 
          A THIRD PARTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY LOYALTY OR ALLIANCE TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN COMING UP WITH THIS IS HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE THAT AREN'T STUDENT-FACING. 
          I SAY THIS AS SOMEBODY IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I WAS OVERHEAD, I WAS PART OF THE OVERHEAD. 
          I WAS NOT TIP OF THE SPEAR AN EMPLOYEE AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE ONLY WAY I WAS GOING TO KEEP MY JOB AS OVERHEAD. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. YOUR PRIOR WORK EXPERIENCE IS NOT RELATIVE 
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TO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION INCENTIVES AND COMPENSATION PLANS. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE TOPIC? 
          >> THAT'S NOT A POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN WE PLEASE REMAIN ON TOPIC? 
          >> IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER THAT IT MIGHT BE GRANDSTANDING BECAUSE THAT'S AGAINST OUR POLICY? 
          >> YES, THIS IS GRANDSTANDING, IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE. 
          WE NEED TO STAY ON AGENDA. 
          >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 
          >> CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOUR ISSUE IS? 
          >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR PRIOR WORK EXPERIENCE AND WHAT KEPT YOU AT YOUR JOB, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING IT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. CAN YOU PLEASE JUST MOVE ON? 
          >> THEN I NEED CLARITY. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF OUR RELEVANT WORK HISTORY EXPERIENCE IN A BOARD MEETING BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE PRECEDENT WE'RE SETTING, I NEED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON, I THINK THAT ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT IT IS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, MAKE DECISIONS, AND MOVE ON, AND YOU'VE HAD THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES NOW. 
          IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, IF YOU HAVE A POINT, THEN GREAT, LET'S MOVE ON. 
          THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IS LET'S JUST KEEP MOVING ON. 
          >> I WILL CONTINUE TO CITE AS MANY OF YOU DO. 
          WE HAVE A TRUSTEE WHO REGULARLY CITES HER WORK HISTORY AS A TEACHER, MY WORK HISTORY IS ENTIRELY RELEVANT TO THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING. 
          I WILL MAKE THAT POINT WHENEVER I SEE FIT. 
          NOW, IF I COULD GET BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME SCRUTINY THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE OVERHEAD LIKE THEY'RE DOING IN SAN ANTONIO ISD BY AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR WHO DOES NOT HAVE ANY ALLEGIANCES OR LOYALTIES TO ANY PARTICULAR EMPLOYEES. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL, $16 MILLION. 
          THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAD UP THERE SHOWED THAT FOR A GOAL OF A 5% RAISE ON SLIDE NUMBER 3 IS $19 MILLION. 
          WELL, IF LIKE SAN ANTONIO, IF WE FOUND $16 MILLION IN CENTRAL OFFICE, WE'D COME PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION. 
          BUT WE DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. 
          I WILL DEFER TO YOU DR. AZAIEZ, ABSOLUTELY. 
          LET ME JUST FINISH. I BELIEVE THAT MR. COVINGTON HAS DONE GREAT WORK. 
          HE'S TALKED TO US IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW HE HAS IDENTIFIED POSITIONS, TAKEN THEM OFF THE BOOKS. 
          I THINK THAT HE'S DONE HIS LEVEL BEST IN HIS SHOP TO EXERCISE SOME SCRUTINY AND FIND SAVINGS. 
          HE'S REPORTED, I THINK LAST YEAR SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR. GO AHEAD, DR. AZAIEZ. 
          >> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS. 
          I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE SLIDES, I THINK MAYBE LAST PRESENTATION, IF WE LOOKED AT FROM LAST, I THINK NOT THIS ONE, IT'S FROM THE OTHER ONE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT HERE. 
          BUT WHEN WE RAN, HOW MUCH WE PAY THE CHIEFS, THE MANAGERS, THE DIRECTORS, I THINK THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WAS NOT ABOUT $2 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.4% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. 
          THAT MEANS THE MANAGER WHO RUNS OUR PAYROLL NEEDS TO GO, THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPARENCY NEEDS TO GO. 
          ALL THESE FOLKS WHO ARE MANAGING AND DIRECTING OUR DISTRICT WILL GO AND WE STILL ONLY CAN SAVE $9.2 MILLION. 
          WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION I THINK WE SHARE WITH OUR BOARD LAST TIME. 
          IT'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND IT AGAIN. 
          TALKING ABOUT SAN ANTONIO, ACTUALLY, FUNNY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THAT, I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? ON THE TEA WEBSITE, ON TEXASSCHOOLS.ORG, YOU CAN SEE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACADEMIC SCORES, BUT ALSO YOU CAN SEE THEIR FINANCES. 
          SO LET ME PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE FOR OUR BOARDS HERE. 
          TOTAL ALL FUNDS, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OUR DISTRICT SPENDS AS FOR THE LAST 2020/21 SCHOOL YEAR WAS $457,218,000, THAT WAS BACK IN 2020/21. 
          SAN ANTONIO ISD WHICH HAS 45,000 KIDS OR SO, WHICH IS LESS THAN US, THEIR TOTAL AMOUNT OF BUDGET IS $596,000,699 MILLION, THAT'S ALMOST $150 MILLION MORE AND WE HAVE ALMOST 3,000 STUDENTS MORE THAN SAN ANTONIO. 
          IF THEY CAN CUT MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING A DISTRICT WITH $150,000,000 LESS WITH 3,000 MORE KIDS, SO THEY DEFINITELY CAN CUT $16 MILLION, THEY PROBABLY CAN CUT SOME MORE TOO IF THEY WANT. 
          I HAVE THIS AVAILABLE ON PUBLIC, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO SEE IT, BUT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. 
          IT'S OUT THERE AND THAT'S BASED ON 2020/21 SCHOOL YEAR. 
          JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. 
          >> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I STARTED THIS BY ASKING IF MR. KERN WANTED TO SHARE. 
          HE SAID HE WAS NOT PREPARED. I SAID THAT WAS FINE. 
          I WOULD JUST SHARE WHAT WAS PUBLIC THAT CAME OUT OF THERE. 
          IF YOU HAVE SOME INSIGHT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IN A BOARD UPDATE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT APPLES TO APPLES. 
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BECAUSE YOU SAID $457 MILLION. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT POCKETS, WAYS THAT WE GET MONEY FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES, AND SO IT REALLY TAKES A DEEP DIVE TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. 
          IF YOU HAVE THAT PREPARED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO RECEIVE THAT IN A BOARD UPDATE. THANK YOU. 
          >> WILL DO. THANK YOU. 
          >> DO YOU HAVE THAT PREPARED OR WOULD IT TAKE [OVERLAPPING]? 
          >> I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND THAT TOMORROW. AS I SAID, IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. 
          >> WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM THE TRUSTEES THAT WE WOULD LIKE THAT. 
          >> YEAH. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> EXCUSE ME. [LAUGHTER] WHAT ARE WE SENDING TOMORROW? JUST THE ARTICLE? 
          >> JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN SPENDING BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO ISD AND ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          >> I HAVE THAT, DENNIS. IT'S RIGHT HERE. 
          IT'S ON THE DA WEBSITE. GOT IT DENNIS. 
          >> BUT ANOTHER BIG THING [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> DENNIS THAT WAS YOU, NOT ME? 
          >> ANOTHER BIG THING ABOUT THAT IS THEY GET $100 MILLION IN FEDERAL MONEY, CORRECT? WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WE DON'T GET. 
          >> THANK YOU. YES. THEY RECEIVE $142 MILLION IN FEDERAL MONEY AND THEN OUR DISTRICT RECEIVES ONLY $36 MILLION. 
          >> THEY GET OVER $100 MILLION EXTRA IN FEDERAL MONEY, THAT'S NOT SUBJECT. 
          >> WELL, BUT WHAT DO WE GET MORE IN TAX MONEY, TAX BASE THAN THEY DO WE HAVE OUR TAX? 
          >> NO. 
          >> [BACKGROUND]. 
          >> WELL, AS LONG AS WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL INFORMATION. THANK YOU. 
          >> I THINK MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FROM THAT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS IF YOU CUT EVERYBODY IN CENTRAL ADMIN, IT TOTALS UP TO 9.2 MILLION. 
          >> BUT I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE CALLING CENTRAL ADMIN. 
          BASICALLY, TO ME, THAT MEANS ANYBODY WHO'S NOT STUDENT-FACING, WHICH GOES BEYOND WHOEVER IS ASSIGNED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE BUILDING. 
          BECAUSE I'VE GOT TEACHERS THAT COME TO ME AND THEY CITE OTHER JOBS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEADQUARTERS AND MIGHT NOT BE IN THAT $9.2 MILLION AND THAT'S WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY AUDITOR, YOU REALLY TAKE US AND ALL OF OUR ALLIANCES AND LOYALTIES AND RELATIONSHIPS; YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT OUT OF IT AND YOU GET AN OBJECTIVE VIEW. 
          >> I THINK OFTENTIMES AND I KNOW TRUSTEE WESTON, I HEARD IT EVEN IN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT TOO. 
          WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT CENTRAL OFFICE, USUALLY THEY TALK ABOUT THE HIGHEST-PAID PEOPLE IN CENTRAL OFFICE. 
          THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TALK ABOUT AN ASSISTANT OR A SECRETARY. 
          THEY TALK ABOUT CHIEFS, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENTS, DIRECTORS, MANAGERS. 
          USUALLY, THEY ARE THE ONE THE HIGHEST PAY. 
          THIS IS WHAT I SAID IF YOU REMOVE ALL OF THEM FROM OUR DISTRICT, EVERYBODY GO HOME, WE WILL SAVE $9.2 MILLION. THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON AND I HAVE A QUESTION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD? THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE ON THIS IS I'M WAITING TO FIND OUT HOW WE PAY FOR IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER A 2% PAY RAISE. 
          THAT AVERAGES ABOUT $98 A MONTH BEFORE TAXES, WHICH YOU CAN HARDLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT TO EAT ON THAT ANYMORE. 
          ONE THING THAT I LOOK AT IS IF WE CAN AFFORD A LARGER PAY RAISE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO FIVE PERCENT. 
          MAYBE THERE'S A THREE OR A FOUR PERCENT INTERIM MIDBRAIN. 
          WE CAN'T FIND THE 19 MILLION, I WANT TO LOOK AT THESE RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT INCENTIVES AND POSSIBLY EVEN SEPARATE THEM FOR RECRUITMENT INCENTIVES AS OPPOSED TO RETENTION INCENTIVES. 
          ONLY BECAUSE THE LONGEVITY PAY, WHICH I WANT TO PAY THAT OUT BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE A LARGER PAY INCREASE, I WOULD RATHER GIVE A FIVE PERCENT PAY INCREASE AND NOT A LONGEVITY STIPEND SO THAT IT'S AN ONGOING COMMITMENT TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY KNOW YOU'RE GETTING A FIVE PERCENT RAISE, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD A $250 STIPEND, LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO DO ALL OF THIS AND I HONESTLY FIVE PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AND WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS, I WANT TO LOOK AT A HIGHER PAY RAISE AND LOWER INCENTIVES. 
          I'M FINE WITH INCENTIVES FOR THESE POSITIONS BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF HESITANCY IN COMMITTING TO SOMETHING IN PERPETUITY THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND. 
          ONCE I'M CERTAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THESE STIPENDS ON AN ONGOING, CONSISTENT BASIS, ABSOLUTELY TURN IT OVER INTO A PAY INCREASE THAT IT'S ABLE TO BE USED WITH TRS. 
          BUT UNTIL THAT MAN OVER THERE CAN TELL ME WE CAN AFFORD THIS IN PERPETUITY, 
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THEN I'M NOT AS READY TO MAKE THOSE INCENTIVES INTO PAY INCREASES, WOULD LOVE TO, BUT I'M NOT READY TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT. 
          THAT'S MY COMMENTS, TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. THIS MAY BE PASSED, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE SITTING UP HERE THAT THIS IS A TOUGH BUDGET. 
          I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR. 
          THIS IS THE TOUGHEST BUDGET WE'VE SEEN. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. 
          IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS SURROUNDING DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE IN OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          SAN ANTONIO, ISD IS ALSO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ABOUT 80 PERCENT LOW SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. 
          THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE. 
          IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PUTTING SOUNDBITES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT JUST AREN'T TRUE OR DO NOT CORRELATE. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL, DOCTOR AZAIEZ, AND THIS IS A REQUEST AND WE CAN SEE WE HAVE THE BUY-IN FROM MY COLLEAGUES IS REALLY PUTTING ON PAPER WHAT CENTRAL OFFICES LIKE. 
          IN THE PAST SAN ANTONIO ISD HAS BEEN A VERY ADMINISTRATIVELY HEAVY DISTRICT. 
          I HAD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE TEACHER THIS WEEK THAT REACHED OUT AND SAID, WHY DON'T WE CUT THE HIGH PAYING POSITIONS INSTEAD OF CUTTING THE LOW PAYING POSITIONS? MY RESPONSE, EVEN AS AN EDUCATOR WAS, OUR ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN THINNED BY ATTRITION. 
          WE'RE NOT MAKING BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT IT OR BIG PRONOUNCEMENTS BUT THERE ARE MANY POSITIONS THAT WE'RE NO LONGER REHIRING THAT ONCE THEY ARE OPEN, WE JUST REMOVE THEM. 
          BUT I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED THAT COMMUNICATION TO KNOW AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ROUND ROCK ISD AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ONE FAMILY, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF SACRIFICES AND WE HAVE VALUES IN THIS DISTRICT. 
          THEY'RE REALLY EASY WAYS FOR US TO MAKE UP THIS MONEY. 
          WE'RE A FAIRLY PRIVILEGED DISTRICT. 
          HIGH SCHOOLS, WE TEACH SIX OUT OF EIGHT. 
          THAT MEANS WE HAVE TWO CONFERENCE PERIODS. 
          WE COULD TEACH SEVEN OUT OF EIGHT. 
          WE COULD SAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY BUT WHAT DOES THAT COMMUNICATE TO OUR EDUCATORS AND WHAT WE VALUE IN THIS DISTRICT AND SAYING, WE WANT YOU TO HAVE THE TIME TO BE PREPARED. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THOSE VALUES AND TO BE THINKING WHEN WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE TRADE-OFFS, THERE ARE SOME UNSPOKEN TRADE-OFFS THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR DISTRICT. 
          >> I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE LOOKING AND TRYING TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS, INSTEAD OF HAVING A BLOCK SCHEDULE, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE YOU SAID, TEACHING SIX OUT OF EIGHT, SOME OF THEM ARE MOVING TO SIX OR DOING SIX OUT OF SEVEN. 
          THAT'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REALLY IN SAVING THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT DO, AND A LOT OF A GREATER HOUSTON AND DALLAS AREA THEY DON'T DO THE BLOCK SCHEDULE LIKE WE DO HERE. 
          THAT'S HOW THEY END UP SAVING THEIR MONEY AND THEN MAYBE PUT IT BACK IN COMPENSATION. 
          BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IS JUST SOMETHING YOU REALLY WANT TO DO. 
          OUR VALUE, THE TIME FOR OUR TEACHERS TO BE TOGETHER DURING PLC, DURING THEIR PROFESSIONAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES SO THEY CAN PLAN AND LOOK AT STUDENT DATA AND ADJUST THEIR TEACHING SO THEY CAN MEET STUDENTS NEEDS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IN SECONDARY, OUR TEACHERS TEACH FIVE OUT OF SEVEN. 
          MANY SCHOOL DISTRICT THEY HAVE THEM TEACH SIX OUT OF SEVEN SO THEY CAN SAVE SOME OR THEY CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FULL-TIME TEACHERS. 
          WE DON'T DO THAT HERE AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING WE WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT THAT'S HOW SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO TO FIND SOME EXTRA FUNDS SO THEY CAN REPURPOSE THAT MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS. 
          >> THAT ALSO LIMITS COURSE SELECTIONS. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO BE MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT DISCUSSING OUR VALUES AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING OR NOT MAKING BUT THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED THAT I THINK WOULD HORRIFY OUR STAFF AND NOT RESPECT THEIR TIME OR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO PROVIDE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND WOULD NOT GIVE STUDENTS THE DEPTH AND THE BREADTH OF ALL THE COURSES THAT THEY HAVE OPTIONS FOR. 
          WHAT DO WE VALUE? I THINK AS A BOARD AND A BODY CORPORATE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND I'M WONDERING HOW WE CAN SHIFT OUR MINDSET TO. 
          HOW ARE WE GOING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH A TOUGH BUDGET SITUATION TOGETHER AND NOT AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, NOT BOARD VERSUS COMMUNITY, NOT CENTRAL OFFICE VERSUS TEACHERS. 
          MY QUESTION IS, COULD WE GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY POSITIONS HAVE BEEN CUT FROM CENTRAL OFFICER ADMINISTRATION THROUGH ATTRITION? CAN WE LOOK AT THAT COMPARED TO OTHER DISTRICTS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THAT INFORMATION IS HIGH AND WE'RE REALLY TOP-HEAVY AND THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT WE DON'T NEED, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE REALITY, LET'S NOT STOKE THAT FIRE OF DISTRUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TRUST EACH OTHER TO GET THROUGH THE SITUATION. 
          >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANT TO ADD, SOME OF THE CHANGES WE DID THIS YEAR, WE TRY TO REALLY LEARN NOT TO MAKE LOTS OF CHANGES BECAUSE OF THE SO3 FUNDS. 
          I THINK I EXPLAINED THIS LAST TIME. 
          THE SO3 FUNDS, 
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OUR FORMER CFO DECIDED TO HAVE IT SPENT OVER TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF THREE. 
          THIS YEAR IS THE END OF THAT SO3 MONEY, IT'S ALMOST $10 MILLION OR I THINK ABOUT $10 MILLION STAFF THAT WERE MOVED INTO SO3. 
          WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISION NOT BECAUSE BY CHOICES, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE REALLY, BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS GOING AWAY. 
          WE TRY NOT TO AND TRUTH IF YOU WILL, AND MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES TO WHAT OUR TEACHERS AND OUR PRINCIPALS AND THEIR TEAM ARE DOING IN OUR CAMPUSES BUT THOSE ARE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND WE HAVE TO MAKE IT. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON HAS RELIED ON BEFORE I CALL ON YOU, JUST A REMINDER, TRUSTEES, IF YOU CAN USE TONIGHT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS TO ADMINISTRATION WHAT YOUR, NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY VOTE FOR, BUT WHAT YOUR FEELINGS ARE ON A TWO PERCENT VERSUS FIVE PERCENT, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT MAKING DECISIONS TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL BE AT OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON THE 18TH. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE NIGHT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN ON THE FLY OF, OH, WELL, CAN YOU BRING BACK THIS SCENARIO? CAN YOU BRING BACK THIS SCENARIO? TONIGHT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LET ADMINISTRATION KNOW WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND YOU MAY WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS PRESENTATION AFTER WE HEAR FROM MR. COVINGTON AND HE TELLS US HOW WE CAN PAY FOR THIS. 
          BUT LIKE I'VE SAID, MY GENERAL PREMISES IS HIGH A PAY RAISE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN MANAGE AND LOWER STIPENDS. 
          IF YOU HAVE NOT PRESSED YOUR LIGHT YET, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO EXPRESS TO ADMINISTRATION WHERE YOU'RE SITTING IN THOSE THINGS AS WELL. TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          >> MY COMMENTS REFERRING TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN SAN ANTONIO ISD STEM FROM THE FACT THAT WE NEVER GOT ANY INFORMATION AFTER WE GOT THIS EMAIL FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL REGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          WE NEVER GOT ANY INFORMATION ON IT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          ABSENT THAT, ALL I DID WAS COME FORWARD TONIGHT AND AGAIN, ADVOCATE FOR AN EXTERNAL AUDIT. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE I SAID ANYTHING THAT WAS INCORRECT. 
          IF I SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS INCORRECT, THAT FEEDBACK NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC TO ME SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND IT. 
          ALL I DID WAS SAY THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO IT. 
          SOMEBODY POINTED IT OUT TO US. 
          I THINK AN AUDIT WOULD EITHER CONFIRM THAT WE COULD DO IT OR IT WOULD SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN EASILY SAY EITHER WAY. 
          AGAIN, IF I'VE SAID SOMETHING THAT'S INCORRECT, I'M HAPPY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEND THAT TO ME. 
          IN GENERAL, MY PREFERENCE TO YOUR POINT, MADAM CHAIR, IS THAT WE DIVERT MORE RESOURCES TO OUR STUDENT-FACING EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. 
          THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY PREFERENCE, THAT WILL ALWAYS BE MY PREFERENCE. 
          IT IS THE TIP OF THE SPEAR IN THIS INDUSTRY. 
          IT'S THOSE WHO ARE IN THE CLASSROOMS WITH OUR CHILDREN. 
          THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE TIP OF THE SPEAR. 
          THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN OPERATIONAL FOUNDATION WITHOUT THEM. 
          THAT WORKFORCE IS THE BACKBONE OF WHAT WE DO. 
          THERE IS NO SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT THE ADULTS WHO WERE IN THE CLASSROOMS WITH OUR CHILDREN. 
          MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DIVERT AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE EMPLOYEES. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. 
          >> CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MODEL SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR WHERE WE DID 5% FOR TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS, 4% FOR THIS GROUP AND 3% FOR THIS GROUP? ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A MODEL LIKE THAT? I NEED A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY ON JUST DIVERTING RESOURCES TO STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? 
          >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO ASSERT FIGURES. 
          THIS IS PUBLIC SECTOR WORK. 
          FOR ME TO SAY, HOW MUCH SHOULD A TEACHER MAKE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH MONEY IN THE WORLD FOR HOW MUCH A TEACHER SHOULD MAKE. 
          THAT'S LIKE SAYING HOW MUCH SHOULD AN ACTIVE DUTY MARINE MAKE? THESE ARE NOT PROFESSIONS THAT PEOPLE GO INTO TO BECOME WEALTHY. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, MR. KERN? DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT APPLY FOR JOBS HERE SAYING THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN THIS PROFESSION TO BECOME WEALTHY? 
          >> I AM NOT SURE HOW TO ANSWER OTHER THAN IT'S NOT A QUESTION WE ASK AND I WOULDN'T THINK SO, NO. 
          >> MY EXPERIENCE WITH PUBLIC SECTOR, WHETHER YOU'RE POLICE, FIRE, TEACHERS, MILITARY, THESE ARE PROFESSIONS THAT PEOPLE GO INTO BECAUSE IT'S A CALLING. 
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IF YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER, HOW MUCH IS THAT POLICE OFFICER WORTH? COULD YOU EVEN PUT A PRICE TAG ON IT? MY OPINION IS I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ME TO PUT, IF YOU NEED A NUMBER LIKE 10%, 20%, DOUBLE THEIR SALARIES. 
          >> I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT, I'M JUST ASKING WHEN YOU SAY MORE RESOURCES IN STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT YOU WANT THOSE POSITIONS TO HAVE A LARGER INCREASE. 
          SKY'S THE LIMIT, WE WOULD DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN IN REALISTIC TERMS WITH THIS BUDGET? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU THAT YOU WOULD LIKE? 
          >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REVERSE THE DOWNWARD ENROLLMENT DECLINE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WHICH WOULD INFUSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE MEANINGFUL BRACES THAT WOULD KEEP PACE AT LEAST WITH INFLATION. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, [OVERLAPPING] BUT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS ROOT PROBLEMS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS. 
          ARE YOU ASKING ME HOW MUCH DEBT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH? 
          >> NO, I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THE WORDS THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH THAT SAID YOU WANT MORE RESOURCES TO STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? GIVEN THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, SPECIFICALLY, COMPENSATION PLANS, SO HOW DOES MORE RESOURCES TO STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPENSATION PLANS FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? 
          >> WELL, IT DEPENDS. IT'S JUST LIKE YOUR FAMILY BUDGET, THAT'S LIKE SAYING HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND ON GROCERIES? WELL, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE? YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO EAT THAT WEEK BASED ON THAT. 
          WE OPERATE UNDER ECONOMIC REALITIES THAT EXIST. 
          THOSE REALITIES EXIST, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE OF MANAGERIAL CHOICES THAT WE MAKE. 
          IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO REVERSE THE ENROLLMENT DECLINE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS MONEY. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE LESS MONEY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO PROVIDE RAISES TO STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          >> ONLY? 
          >> THAT WOULD BE A TIER 1 PREFERENCE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO HAVE A RAISE. 
          IF YOU'RE STUDENT-FACING, I CAN'T RUN THE SHOP WITHOUT YOU. 
          STUDENT-FACING POSITIONS ARE MY PRIORITY. 
          I WOULD SAY AS MUCH AS CAN BE AWARDED THERE, THE BETTER. 
          >> TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, IS A PRINCIPLE A STUDENT-FACING POSITION? IS A EDUCATIONAL DIAGNOSTICIAN WHO DOES OUR ART AND OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION EVALUATIONS, ARE THEY A STUDENT-FACING POSITION? IS A CUSTODIAN A STUDENT-FACING? I NEED TO KNOW WHO FALLS IN. 
          IS A BUS DRIVER A STUDENT-FACING POSITION? WHO WOULD THAT EXCLUDE OR WHO DOES IT INCLUDE? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          >> I THINK THAT MR. KERN PROBABLY HAS A LIST OF ALL JOB CATEGORIES AND I THINK IF THIS BOARD WANTS IT, WE COULD GET A LIST FROM TOP TO BOTTOM BASED ON WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS IS THE MOST STUDENT-FACING TO THE LEAST STUDENT-FACING. 
          WE WOULD FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE FOR RAISES AND THEN YOU DRAW A CUT LINE. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING AN ASSERTION INDEPENDENT OF THE FISCAL REALITIES. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I WANT TO GO ON AN INTERNATIONAL TRIP TO AFRICA AND ANTARCTICA AND EUROPE, AND I HAVE $500. 
          HOW DO I DO THAT? WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 
          MAYBE I CAN GO TO MEXICO. 
          YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON ECONOMIC REALITIES, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU WOULD WANT, BUT WHAT I WOULD WANT IS RAISES THAT KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. 
          >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN YOU ASK THAT THE NEXT PERSON HOW THEY FEEL? 
          >> SURE. 
          TRUSTEE MARKUM. 
          >> I AGREE WITH PRESIDENT LANDRUM THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE HIGHEST INCREASE POSSIBLE, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS THAT 5% INCREASE WITH POTENTIALLY COMING BACK TO THE TABLE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET FROM THE LEGISLATURE. 
          IF LOWERING STIPENDS IS THE WAY TO GET THERE AND THAT'S WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES WANT, THEN I'M ALL FOR THAT. 
          MAYBE THIS IS A BRING BACK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW MUCH ARE THOSE STIPENDS HELPING US HIRE STAFF? IF THE ANSWER IS THAT THAT IS INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE TO APPLY IN OUR DISTRICT, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING COMPENSATION AND WHERE THOSE STIPENDS LIE. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. 
          WE STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME ROI ON THE INCENTIVES FROM LAST YEAR AND OUR SPECIAL ED RETENTION RATE HAS DEFINITELY INCREASED QUITE A BIT IN THE TEACHER AREA, 
          [02:25:05]
WHICH WAS PART OF THE INTENTION BEHIND IT. 
          AGAIN, TO YOUR QUESTION, LAST YEAR WE TURNED OVER 15.9% OF OUR TEACHING STAFF, WHICH MEANT WE RETAINED 84% OF OUR TEACHING STAFF. 
          THESE INCENTIVES DON'T JUST APPLY FOR RECRUITING, BUT IT'S RETAINING STAFF TO IT. 
          IT'S ABOUT ALL OF THAT. 
          I HOPE I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M SAYING THIS. 
          I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR FOCUSING COMPENSATION ON OUR CLASSROOM. 
          BELIEVE ME, AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVED THROUGH THIS PAST YEAR AND BUILD PIPELINES AND TRIED TO RECRUIT AND FILL VACANCIES THAT WE WEREN'T ANTICIPATING, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER POSITIONS IN OUR DISTRICT THAT HELPS SUPPORT STUDENTS, AND I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO GO UNSAID. 
          WE CAN'T PAY PEOPLE WITHOUT A PAYROLL DEPARTMENT AND IF WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE IN OUR PAYROLL DEPARTMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE STAFF. 
          WE CAN'T KEEP OUR DEVICES UP-TO-DATE FOR STUDENTS WITHOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, AND THAT IS ONE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE TO MARKET. 
          ABSOLUTELY, OUR CLASSROOM IS THE BASIS FOR WHY WE'RE HERE AND WHAT WE DO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM WHO ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THE SAME INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT THE TEACHERS ARE. 
          AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TODAY. THANKS. 
          >> I WANT TO TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THE QUESTION AND CLARIFYING THAT. 
          I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND PIECES THAT GO INTO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY STUDENT-FACING RESOURCES. 
          I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IN OUR BUDGET THAT OUR SPENDING ON RESOURCES THAT DIRECTLY GO TO OUR STUDENTS IF YOU REMOVE RECAPTURE, IT'S TRENDING UPWARD. 
          I DO THINK THAT OUR DISTRICT IS FOCUSED ON OUR STUDENTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. 
          >> IF I CAN ADD TRUSTEE MARKUM. 
          I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT EVERYONE REALLY BECAUSE IT TAKES A VILLAGE. 
          YOU APPROVED THE INCENTIVES, HR CAME UP WITH DIFFERENT WAYS OF INCENTIVIZE AND CREATE A BETTER CULTURE IN OUR DISTRICT, OUR PRINCIPLES THAT OUR STAFF WORKED TOGETHER WITH OUR TEACHERS TO ALSO HAVE BETTER WORKING ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE. 
          BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF. 
          THEN COMPENSATION, WE ARE SEEING FEWER TEACHERS RESIGNING THIS YEAR THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          WE'VE SEEN MORE HAPPIER TEACHERS, HAPPIER STAFF, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING APPRECIATED MORE AND CARED FOR MORE. 
          THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET, BUT THEY ALSO SEEING EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN US TO RETAINING THEM AND THEY'RE STANDING WITH US. 
          HOPEFULLY, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WILL CONTINUE MAKING FOLKS FEEL BETTER. 
          THEN ALSO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO KEEP THEM WITH US. 
          WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE OUR DISTRICT. 
          >> TRUSTEES ZARATE. 
          >> EDDY STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT ON THAT LAST COMMENT. 
          I THINK THAT WE'RE A FAMILY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS DISTRICT, AND EVERY PERSON IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE STUDENTS GET A BETTER EDUCATION AND GET A BETTER LIFE IN THE END AND THEN MOVE ON TO GO ON AND RUN THEIR OWN DISTRICTS SOMEDAY WHICH WILL BE GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BRAG ABOUT WHEN WE'RE OLD. 
          WELL, I'M ALREADY OLD. I ALSO AGREE THAT IF WE CAN'T DO 5%, 2% TO ME IS AS MUCH OF AN INSULT AS THE BASIC ALLOTMENT IDEAS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS RIGHT NOW DOWN THERE AT THE CAPITAL. 
          IT'S AN INSULT. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEM. 
          IT'S AN ON PAPER RAISE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DENT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 
          I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO THE SKY'S THE LIMIT AND ALL THAT STUFF BECAUSE IF IT WERE UP TO ME, TEACHERS WOULD BE STARTING AT 150,000 A YEAR EASILY. 
          BUT, WE CAN'T DO THAT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T VALUE THAT. 
          THE 5% RAISE WORKS FOR ME FOR SURE FOR NOW, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE AMENDMENTS ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO DO AND WE CAN MAYBE DO EVEN MORE. 
          I AM NOT A FAN OF THE INCENTIVES. 
          [02:30:02]
HONESTLY, MONEY NOW IS GREAT, MONEY IN YOUR HAND IS AWESOME. 
          GOD, IF I COULD HAVE SOME MONEY RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LOVE IT. 
          BUT WE NEED OUR TEACHERS THINKING LONG-TERM, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM GET THERE, AND OUR STAFF THINKING LONG TERM BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO STAY IN THIS AREA. 
          KNOWING THAT EVERY YEAR THIS IS SOLID MONEY THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE, IT'S THE SAME AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE HSAS, IT'S SAVING MONEY FOR THAT AND KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE IT IN THE LONG RUN IS A LOT MORE COMFORTING TO PEOPLE THAN KNOWING THAT I'M GOING TO GET A ONETIME LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FROM SOMEBODY AND I CAN SPEND IT ON THIS ONE THING, RATHER THAN KNOWING I CAN MAKE SOME PLANS FOR MY FUTURE AS I MAKE PLANS FOR THESE CHILDREN'S FUTURES BY TEACHING THEM, BY FEEDING THEM, BY TRANSPORTING THEM. 
          I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT AFFECT OUR STUDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, WHICH SOME OF OUR MILITARY PEOPLE ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF. 
          FIVE PERCENT ARE A BUST FOR ME RIGHT NOW. 
          MORE AND MORE, CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS, TELL THEM TO PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A YES. 
          FOR ME, I BELIEVE THAT THE INCENTIVES ARE EFFECTIVE WITH THESE SPECIFIC HARD TO FILL CATEGORIES, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KEEP THOSE BECAUSE THAT IS AN EDUCATION STANDARDS FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT. 
          EVEN IF WE INCREASE SALARIES, SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS WANT TO SEE THAT THERE IS AN INCENTIVE. 
          HARD TO STAFF, LIKE WE'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER DISTRICTS IN THAT, AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE VISITING INTERNATIONAL TEACHER RELOCATION STIPEND. 
          WE'VE SEEN WONDERFUL WORK AND I'M TIRED OF SEEING THE WORD EQUITY BE MISUSED. 
          IT DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE GETS THE SAME THING, IT MEANS THAT PEOPLE HAVE VARYING NEEDS AND WE MEET THOSE NEEDS. 
          WE'VE SEEN SOME EXCELLENT WORK WITH THAT PROGRAM, I LIKE THAT CONTINUE. 
          FIVE PERCENT IS REALLY THE FLOOR FOR ME. 
          I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO SEE 5%, ESPECIALLY KNOWING AND HAVING A PREVIEW OF OUR BUDGET SITUATION. 
          MR. COVINGTON, I'M SURE WE'RE PROBABLY STRESSING YOU OUT, BUT I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE MAGIC WHEN WE GET TO HEAR ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU TO SEE HOW WE CAN CREATIVELY MAKE OUR GOALS. 
          >> THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK. 
          >> I'M READY, WE'RE READY, SO LET'S GO. I KNOW. 
          HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD. 
          HE'S SO FRUSTRATED WITH US, I'M SURE. 
          BUT, THAT'S REALLY THE FLOOR FOR ME. 
          BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR FULL BUDGET, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT CONVERSATION AND THOSE ACTIONS. 
          >> TRUSTEE WEIR. 
          >> CAN I WAIT UNTIL AFTER HE TELLS US HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? [LAUGHTER] I'M SITTING PRETTY FAR AWAY, I DON'T THINK HE COULD THROW HIS BOOTS THIS FAR. 
          WELL, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          I DO FEEL LIKE THE STIPENDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I'VE ASKED ABOUT MATHEMATICS, SPANISH I BELIEVE IS PROBABLY AN ISSUE. 
          I KNOW AT MCNEILL IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH OUR MATH TEACHERS THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT SUBJECT, SO I DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO INCENTIVIZE TEACHERS, AND ESPECIALLY IF OUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS ARE GIVING MORE, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. 
          I AM IN FAVOR OF THE INCENTIVES. 
          TWO PERCENT DOES SEEM TOO LOW. 
          IT REALLY DOES. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH THE 5%, BUT I DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE NEXT [LAUGHTER] PRESENTATION. 
          >> AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HIM GOING GRAY. 
          [LAUGHTER] 
          >> YOU'RE SCARING ME MR. COVINGTON. 
          BUT I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND I KNOW $26 MILLION IS TOUGH WHEN YOU COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THERE. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> THANK YOU. I'VE ACTUALLY TRIED TO GET MY LINE ON FOR AWHILE AND IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO TRUSTEE HARRISON, AND I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          IT'LL TAKE ME JUST A SECOND TO GET THERE. 
          WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION AND TRUSTEE HARRISON, YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS A TEACHER, YOU BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT COMPENSATION, IT'S ABOUT HOW MANY PERIODS DO THEY GET OFF, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE GIVE THEM. 
          I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY IT'S ALSO CLASS SIZE. 
          AS A PROFESSOR MYSELF, I USED TO TEACH ABOUT 17-18 STUDENTS AND NOW SOMETIMES I HAVE CLASSES AS BIG AS 22-26 AND JUST ADDING A FEW STUDENTS. 
          [02:35:04]
IT'S HOURS AND HOURS OF WORK FOR ME. 
          CLASS SIZE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF COVID. 
          I'M EVEN SEEING THIS AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL WHERE EVEN THE SEMESTER I HAD ONE OR TWO STUDENTS THAT JUST NEEDED MORE HELP, AND WOW, I SPENT A LOT OF EXTRA TIME WITH JUST THOSE FEW EXTRA STUDENTS. 
          THIS GOES BACK TO AN EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT. 
          I THINK MOST OF US RAN ON THIS, AND I KNOW TRUSTEE HARRISON, YOU TALKED ABOUT ATTRITION AT THE ADMIN LEVEL, BUT I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE. 
          BUT WE GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE STAFFING AREA IS IDENTIFIED FOR ADJUSTMENT FOR 23, 24. 
          IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TEACHER FTE REDUCTION, AND DUE TO CLASS SIZE RATIO INCREASE FROM 26-26.5, REDUCTION OF THREE ADDITIONAL ACADEMIC SUPPORT FTES PER CAMPUS. 
          IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TEACHER FTE REDUCTION DUE TO CLASS SIZE RATIO INCREASE 25-25.5 CLASS SIZE TARGET ALL CAMPUSES. 
          THIS WAS BACK WHEN THE LIBRARY ASSISTANT POSITIONS WERE ELIMINATED AND WE KNOW THAT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. 
          THEN CUSTODIAL SERVICES WAS 30 VACANT FTES WILL BE REDUCED FROM BUDGET, WHICH IF THEY WERE ALREADY VACANT, MEANS THAT BASICALLY THEY'RE NOT THERE ANYWAYS. 
          THEN IT'S AN ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENT BUDGETS HAVE BEEN REDUCED BY FIVE PERCENT. 
          I GO BACK TO WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON WAS SAYING, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT COMPENSATION AND PAYMENT, WE'RE RESTATING RIGHT HERE. 
          THIS HAS BEEN TOLD TO THE BOARD THAT WE'RE INCREASING CLASS SIZES. 
          I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A BUDGET THAT INCREASES CLASS SIZES BY THE WAY. 
          THAT'LL ABSOLUTELY BE A NO FOR ME. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT COMPENSATION FOR TEACHERS. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE CLASS SIZES AND WE'RE GOING TO DOWNGRADE OUR ACADEMICS, I CAN'T VOTE FOR A BUDGET UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN PROVE TO ME THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. 
          THAT IS MY CAVEAT. 
          I NEED TO SEE AND THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON WAS ASKING FOR. 
          I WANT TO SEE THE DATA BECAUSE SINCE I'VE SAT ON THIS BOARD, THERE ARE SOME DEPARTMENTS, AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT NAMING THEM RIGHT HERE, BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THEM. 
          THERE'S BEEN SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE GROWN. 
          SOME OF THESE ARE PET PROJECTS OF POSSIBLE TRUSTEES UP HERE. 
          I REMEMBER THERE HAS BEEN ROBOTICS THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN POPPED UP THAT WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON. 
          HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN ROBOTICS? IT'S GREAT. THE ROBOTICS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, LET'S KEEP THEM. 
          BUT SOME OF THESE WERE PET PROJECTS THAT TRUSTEES HAVE PETITIONED FOR TO THE DISTRICT AND GOD, AND THEY'RE BLOATED AND INSTEAD WE'RE LOOKING AT CLASS SIZE RATIO INCREASES. 
          HONESTLY, I COME FROM CORPORATE WORLD AND IT'S THE SAME HERE, IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME TO CAMPUS AND INCREASE CLASS SIZES, THEN YOU HAVE TO CUT. 
          YOU HAVE TO SAY, HEY PAYROLL, WHAT YOU USED TO DO WITH SIX PEOPLE, YOU GET TO DO WITH FIVE PEOPLE NOW. 
          YOU DON'T GO TO THE CAMPUS AND SAY, HEY, CAMPUS, WHAT YOU USED TO DO WITH SIX PEOPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO NOW DO WITH FIVE PEOPLE. 
          NO, IT'S GOING TO BE APPLES-TO-APPLES. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO BETTER. 
          TO ME, IT CAN'T BE AT THE STUDENT LEVEL. 
          CAMPUS LEVEL AND BELOW, THIS IS TOPSY-TURVY TO ME. 
          I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I SAW THIS. 
          NO CUTS AT THE ADMIN LEVEL. 
          ABSOLUTELY NO CUTS. 
          CUSTODIAL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, AND LIBRARIES ASSISTANCE. 
          FOR ME, THE BUDGET LIBRARY ASSISTANCE BACK IN, ALL OF THEM, BACK IN, LIBRARY ASSISTANTS, BACK IN. 
          HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE DO NOT CUT TEACHERS. 
          I'M HEARING OF ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS BEING CUT. 
          THERE ARE MANY BLOATED AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT, WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          ONE OF THEM, HONESTLY, WE NEED TO REVISIT THE POLICE. 
          THAT IS A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS DEVELOPED RIGHT AS I CAME ONTO THE BOARD. 
          IT'S A BIG EXPENSE THAT WE USE TO NOT HAVE. 
          WE ALL KNOW IT'S DOUBLED. WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE POLICE. 
          WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS ABOUT OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE GROWN SINCE ALMOST ALL OF US HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD, AND THOSE NEED TO BE LOOKED. 
          THE THING IS, WE NEED TO JUSTIFY THAT, AND I THINK TRUSTEE HARRISON, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TOO. 
          WE NEED TO JUSTIFY THAT TO OUR STAFF BECAUSE OUR STAFF NEEDS TO FEEL VALUED AND THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON WAS ALSO SAYING WITH AN AUDIT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT. 
          YOU CAN'T ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, HEY, ADMINISTRATION, DO YOU WANT TO CUT YOURSELF? IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, AND HONESTLY TO BE REAL HONEST, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN CORPORATE WORLD. 
          CORPORATE WORLD ACTUALLY WILL CUT THEIR ADMINISTRATION FIRST. 
          DO YOU NEED AHEAD OF PAYROLL? 
          [02:40:02]
YOU NEED THE PEOPLE DOING THE PAYROLL, BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK MORE HOURS, BUT YOU CAN'T ASK THE PEOPLE AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL TO WORK MORE HOURS AND NOT THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          THEN I WILL SAY THAT AT A TIME LIKE THIS YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A TIERED APPROACH, I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TRUSTEE WESTON, AND I'M VERY MUCH FOR A TIERED APPROACH. 
          I'M ACTUALLY FOR PAY CUTS. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETS LIKE WE'RE SEEING, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN HERE THAT MAKES SIX FIGURES. 
          I'M SORRY, IF YOU'RE NOT HERE AND IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE MONEY, I WOULDN'T SAY THIS OUT LOUD. 
          IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE MONEY AND NOT THE STUDENTS, THEN MAYBE ROUND ROCK IS NOT THE PLACE. 
          THAT IS MY OPINION. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TEACHERS, I'M TALKING ABOUT HIGHLY COMPENSATED EMPLOYEES. 
          ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE SETTING IT, KEVIN, YOU'VE EVEN GOT TIERS. 
          I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUGE DEFICIT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND WE NEED SOME GOOD FAITH FROM THE HIGH LEVEL. 
          YOU CAME OUT SWINGING AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL AND I CAN'T BE FOR THAT. 
          >> MAY I RESPOND TO DR. BONE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE CAN CUT ALL THE CHIEFS, ALL THE AREA SOUPS, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MENTIONED WHO DO MAKE SIX-FIGURE AND THAT'S WILL SAVE THE DISTRICT $9.2 MILLION. 
          THAT MEANING WE CANNOT HAVE A DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DIRECTOR OR MANAGER OF PAYROLL. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY MANAGING THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          EVEN IF WE DO ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST PAY CUT, ELIMINATING ALL THOSE POSITIONS, THE MAXIMAL CAN SAVE AND WE WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU, NOT UP TWO MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THAT'S ONE. WE CAN ELIMINATE THE POLICE. 
          I THINK THE BUDGET OF THE POLICE IS ABOUT $2.9 MILLION. 
          WELL, WE CAN JUST ELIMINATE THE POLICE. 
          WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WITH THE WILKO UNDER THE ROUND ROCK POLICE, AND FIRST OF ALL, THEY CAN DO IT, AND EVEN IF THEY SAID YES, IT'S GOING TO COST US PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WE PAY FOR OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST ELIMINATE THE POLICE. 
          WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME MOU, ENTER IN SOME MOU WITH DIFFERENT LAW FIRMS AND WE HAVE TO PAY THEM. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST SAVED THE TWO POINT SOME MILLION DOLLARS. 
          NUMBER 2, I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE DID. 
          WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THIS BOARD, AS I SAID, SPRING 2021, THE FORMER CFO PUT OVER 100 STAFF MEMBERS USE AN SO3 FUNDS. 
          I WAS APPROVED BY THIS WITH THE BOARD, WITH EXCEPTION OF OUR TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS. 
          SO3 FUNDS ARE GONE, DR. BONES. 
          WHAT IS THE NORMAL THING TO DO IS BECAUSE THAT MONEY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FUNDED ANYMORE, THOSE $10 MILLION WORTH OF STAFF, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO HOME, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAY SO THEY CAN KEEP EVERYONE EMPLOYED. 
          BUT AS I SAID, THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN SPRING AND SUMMER OF 2021, AND THERE WERE OVER 100 STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE FUNDED THROUGH SO3 FUNDS, AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY THEM ANYMORE BECAUSE SO3 FUNDS ARE GONE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYONE EMPLOYED. 
          ALL OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY COACHES WERE MOVED AND FUNDED THROUGH SO3 FONTS AND WE DID WANT TO SEND THOSE FOR INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES HOME. 
          THAT'S ALL WE HAD TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS. 
          WHILE WE DID SPECIFICALLY TO THE RATIO AT THE HIGH-SCHOOL AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE ADDED BY HALF A STUDENT, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY OF USING THAT AS A FORMULA. 
          IF YOU GO TO OUR SCHOOLS, AND I REMEMBER TRUSTEE WESTON SEND ME AN EMAIL AND SAID, WELL, THESE NUMBERS DON'T EVEN MATCH WHAT I WAS TOLD. 
          IT WILL VARY. 
          IT WILL VARY FROM ONE CAMPUS TO ANOTHER, FROM ONE CLASSROOM TO ANOTHER. 
          I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT TEA HAS BASED ON PIMS, NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER TEACHER IS 13.3 IN ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          THAT'S THE AVERAGE, WHEN YOU AVERAGE EVERYONE. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. NOT EVERY CLASSROOM WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER. 
          SOME MAY HAVE 20, SOME MAY HAVE 35 OR 30, SOME MAY HAVE 10 OR 12. 
          IT DEPENDS ON THE CLASS. 
          BUT WHEN YOU AVERAGE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER TEACHER IN ROUND ROCK ISD BASED ON LAST YEAR DATA IS 13.3 AND IT'S RIGHT HERE BASED ON TEA. 
          >> SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. 
          FIRST I'LL ACTUALLY JUST RESPOND TO THAT. 
          I HAVE TWO CHILDREN IN THIS DISTRICT AND I CAN TELL YOU MY TWO CHILDREN DON'T HAVE ONE CLASS THAT HAS 13 KIDS, NOT ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          I DO KNOW HOW THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I WORK AT A UNIVERSITY AND SINCE I TEACH THERE, WE'LL HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE TEACHERS BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY TEACH. 
          THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY CLASS SIZE. 
          THAT'S 13.3 IS NOT ACTUALLY THE CLASS SIZE. 
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UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE TEACHERS WOULD LOVE THAT, OUR TEACHERS WOULD BE LIKE, EVERY TEACHER BE FLOCKING TO ROUND ROCK IF WE ACTUALLY HAD 13 AVERAGE. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIRECTORS, THIS IS A VERY COMMON THING. 
          >> ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE'S LYING AND THE DATA ON TEA WEBSITE IS INCORRECT? 
          >> NO, YOU DIDN'T CATCH IT. I SAID THE WAY THAT THEY GET THAT 13.3 PERCENT AVERAGE IS NOT LITERALLY HOW MANY KIDS ARE SITTING IN OUR CLASSROOMS ON AVERAGE. 
          IT ACTUALLY TAKES HOW MANY TEACHERS WE HAVE AND THEN HOW MANY STUDENTS WE HAVE AND DIVIDE THEM. 
          >> YOU'RE RIGHT. IT SAYS NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER TEACHER. 
          IT IS NOT SAY CLASS SIZE AVERAGE. 
          >> YEAH, IT'S NOT CLASS SIZE AVERAGE. 
          THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES COULD POSSIBLY COUNT AS LIKE A HALF TEACHER OR TEACHER, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER EVEN THOUGH THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A CLASS SETTING WITH THEM ALL DAY. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR CLASSROOM AVERAGE. 
          OUR TEACHERS, SO THAT'S ONE. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO DIRECTORS AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S $9.0 SOMETHING MILLION FOR ALL OF OUR ADMIN. 
          FOR ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, GIVE ME THE DATA. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I WILL SAY IN BUSINESS, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NEED TO REALIZE, LOOK AT THE BUDGET Y'ALL ALL. 
          THEN LOOK AT OUR FUNDS HAVE BEEN DEPLETING. 
          OUR FINANCIAL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED FOR AT LEAST A YEAR ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADING. 
          IN CORPORATE WORLD, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR DIRECTORY STRUCTURE. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S A GREAT THING TO DO. 
          YOU WILL SEE MANY COMPANIES START REORGANIZING AT THIS POINT. 
          BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY KIND OF INNOVATION OR ANY KIND OF OTHER MOVEMENT OTHER THAN CUTTING, LET'S CUT SOME HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH TEACHERS, AND APES, AND LIBRARY ASSISTANTS. 
          I HAVEN'T HEARD LIKE, HEY, MAYBE LET'S RESTRUCTURE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE SOME MORE RESPONSIBILITY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND WHEN WE HAD A LOT MORE MONEY AND TIMES WERE GOOD, MAYBE THERE WERE PROGRAMS OR MAYBE THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T BEING USED AS WELL ANYMORE. 
          FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. 
          I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BECAUSE I SAW WE ARE CUTTING FBLA. 
          SOMEWHERE FBLA WAS CUT OUT. 
          THAT'S BEEN AN EMAIL FROM A STUDENT AT WESTWOOD. 
          I DO SEE THAT THERE'S INTERESTING DECISIONS BEING MADE, WHICH IS FINE. 
          BUT THIS ISN'T OKAY WHERE WE'RE GOING AFTER TEACHERS. 
          LET'S LOOK AT DIRECTORS. 
          THE SO3 REFUNDS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND MR. COVINGTON, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS OR YOU MIGHT NOT BECAUSE THIS IS BEFORE YOUR TIME. 
          BUT IF WE WERE STILL A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT, DO YOU KNOW THE LAST TIME YOU WERE A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT AND HOW MUCH THIS DISTRICT RECEIVED? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS? NO. 
          >> NO. I CAN LOOK BACK AND SEE WHEN WE WAS A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE RECEIVED. 
          >> BECAUSE IF I RECALL STRAIGHT AND MAYBE SOME OF THE TRUSTEES THAT WERE AROUND HERE, I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER WAS $17 MILLION. 
          DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT I CAME ONTO THE BOARD, I BELIEVE 2020. 
          THE NUMBER THAT WE WERE TOLD WAS $17 MILLION. 
          WHEN SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, AND IF WE WERE A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT, AND THIS GOES BACK TO TRUSTEE WESTON, ENROLLMENT IS CRITICAL, WHICH I DID SEE SOME OF YOUR STAFF LAUGHING WHEN TRUSTEE WESTON STARTED TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS JUST A JOKE SOMEWHERE ELSE ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT IF WE ACTUALLY, AND YES I SEE TRUSTEE MARTIN LEFT, BUT I DON'T KNOW TRUSTEE AZAIEZ KNOWS THIS. 
          BUT IF WE'RE A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY END UP GETTING A LOT MORE MONEY FROM THE STATE, UPWARDS OF 10-$17 MILLION, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY THEN COVER THE COST THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          ENROLLMENT IS SO CRITICAL. 
          ENROLLMENT, GETTING OUR STUDENTS. 
          ROUND ROCK IS STILL A GROWING AREA Y'ALL. 
          JUST DRIVE AROUND. THEY'RE STILL HOUSES BEING BUILT. 
          THERE'S APARTMENTS BEING BUILT. 
          >> WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT THOUGH IN A MINUTE. 
          >> EXCUSE ME, A POINT OF ORDER. 
          I BELIEVE I HAVE THE FLOOR AND WE'RE NOT INTERRUPTING PEOPLE. THANK YOU. 
          >> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CHAIR CAN RULE ON, SO GO AHEAD. 
          >> YEAH. I DON'T NEED TO DO A POINT OF ORDER. I ACTUALLY HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          I THINK THOSE WERE THE THREE THINGS DR. AZAIEZ, AGAIN, SO3, LET'S GET BACK TO FAST GROWTH. 
          LET'S DO IT Y'ALL. I'M GAMING, ANYBODY ELSE? I'M READY FOR THIS. 
          LET'S DO FAST GROWTH. LET'S GET OUR STUDENTS BACK IN OUR SEATS AND OUR SCHOOLS. 
          ADMIN, IF THE DIRECTORS AND ALL THOSE, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME CREATIVE WAY AT OUR ADMIN LEVEL AND NOT AT OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS. 
          AGAIN, THE 13.3, I DO THROW THAT BACK OUT THERE THAT MY KIDS SCHOOLS DON'T SEE THAT. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE LOTS OF PARENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BEING IN THE UPPER 20S. 
          [02:50:05]
BY THE WAY Y'ALL, I JUST SAID THIS ALL OF THAT IS TIED. 
          THE CLASS SIZE IS TIED TO ENROLLMENT. 
          IF MY KINDERGARTENER WERE TO WALK IN THERE'S 25 KINDERGARTENERS, I'M GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOL, I'M GOING TO CHARTER. 
          OUR CUSTOMERS EXPECT BETTER. 
          OUR PARENTS WANT SMALL CLASS SIZES AND THEY DESERVE IT. 
          ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING AT OUR HIGHER-LEVEL ADMIN AND WHAT WE CAN DO CREATIVELY THERE. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO JUST ONE MORE, IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          JUST AS FAR AS CLASS SIZE AGAIN, I NEVER SAID THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE EVERY CLASSROOM. 
          AS I SAID, IT DEPENDS FROM ONE CLASS TO ANOTHER. 
          YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE HIGHER RATIO FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH-SCHOOL, ELEMENTALLY YOU WILL SEE A SMALLER SIZE. 
          NOT EVERY CLASS WILL BE 13.3, BUT THAT'S HOW MANY TEACHERS WE HAVE WHEN YOU ADD EVERYTHING TOGETHER. 
          BUT WE HAVE CLASSES BIGGER THAN 13.3. 
          I'M NOT SAYING EVERY CLASS IS LIKE THAT. 
          ESPECIALLY SECONDARY, USUALLY A LOT LARGER THAN THAT FOR SURE. 
          >> YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ACTUALLY AS A BOARD HAVE BEEN VOTING ON ACTUALLY GETTING CLASS SIZE WAIVERS AT ELEMENTARIES. 
          WE HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD NUMBER OF LISTS OF CLASS SIZE WAIVERS, AND IT GOES BACK TO WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS. 
          I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE PARENTS THAT HAD BEEN POINTING THIS OUT TO US THAT I HAVE MY KID'S CLASS. 
          THERE'S ONE SCHOOL, I THINK SOMEBODY WAS JUST TELLING ME THEY'RE 26 OR CLOSE WORDS OF UPWARDS OF 30 IN THIRD GRADE. 
          THESE ARE NOT CLASS SIZES THAT WERE NORMAL IN ROUND ROCK. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO ADMONISH US TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DISCUSS OUR STAFF. 
          WHETHER THEY'RE CLASSROOM STAFF OR WHETHER THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN ADMINISTRATION. 
          I'M SOMEBODY THAT CAME FROM INDUSTRY TO WORK IN EDUCATION. 
          YOU TAKE A HUGE PAY CUT. 
          BUT SIMILARLY, IF YOU ARE IN A PROFESSIONAL POSITION LIKE HR, LEGAL, WORKING IN EDUCATION, YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID WHAT YOU WOULD GET PAID IN INDUSTRY. 
          I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND WE CAN TREAT EVERYONE LIKE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DISTRICT. 
          DR. AZAIEZ, I'M REALLY REQUESTING THAT MAYBE WE GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT CENTRAL OFFICE DIRECTOR, WHAT POSITIONS WE HAVE GOTTEN RID OF BY ATTRITION. 
          I THINK COMMUNICATION ENDS FRUSTRATION, AND SOMETIMES WE'RE FUSSING AND FIGHTING OVER A LACK OF INFORMATION. 
          I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. 
          I HOPE I HAVE BROAD AGREEMENT. 
          I SEE ENOUGH NODS, SO IF WE COULD GET THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US A LOT. 
          WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D REALLY LIKE TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE DEBATE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO GET SOME CONCRETE REALITIES OF THE BUDGET. 
          >> SECOND. 
          >> SECOND. 
          >> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO MOVE ON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 5/2. 
          WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. I HAD A WAY TO START THIS, BUT FIRST OF ALL, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE STIPENDS THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          >> STIPENDS OR PAY RISE? 
          >> STIPENDS. IF YOU ALL ARE WANTING TO PUT THOSE BACK, REMEMBER YOU ADD SIX MILLION DOLLARS TO THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THESE SLIDES. 
          I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, SIX MILLION. 
          >> WE'RE GETTING NEAR YOUR BUDGET PRESENTATION UP. THERE WE GO. 
          >> THERE YOU GO. MY ROLE IS TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE, RULE IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND BRING THAT TO YOU GUYS FOR INFORMATION. 
          I CAN'T CHANGE THE NUMBERS. 
          I CAN ONLY SHOW YOU WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOW. 
          WITH A TWO PERCENT AND A FIVE PERCENT, I'M GOING TO SHOW THE NUMBERS, IS TO GET TO FIVE PERCENT I'M GOING ON RECORD. 
          IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK BETWEEN STAFF, BOARD, ADMINISTRATION, EVERYBODY, TO GET TO FIVE PERCENT AND LEGISLATURE. 
          >> I'LL DONATE MY PAY. 
          [LAUGHTER] 
          >> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. CAN I DO THIS? 
          >> YOU CAN. 
          >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS PLANS BUDGET AND THE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          BECAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE USED AS FACTORS IN BUILDING THE BUDGET. 
          WE'RE SAYING THE ESTIMATED PROPERTY VALUE IS INCREASING BY 10 PERCENT. 
          ENROLLMENT, WE GOING TO SEE THREE PROJECTIONS FLAT, 
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188 REDUCTION IN ENROLLMENT AND A 200 GROWTH ENROLLMENT. 
          AT ATTENDANCE RATE PROJECTED AT 94 PERCENT, WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM HOW WE USED TO BUILD A BUDGET AT 95 PERCENT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MARKET ADJUSTMENTS, IT WOULD PRESENT A PAY INCREASE AT TWO PERCENT AND FIVE PERCENT, NO STIPENDS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT RESTORING THE ESSER POSITIONS THAT WILL MOVE FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO ESSER THREE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MOVED HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE MOVED, IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE. 
          THE OPTION EITHER BRING THEM BACK OR SEND THEM HOME. 
          >> CAN I JUST ASK YOU HOW YOU PICKED 188 REDUCTION IN 200 GROWTH? 
          >> THE 188 WAS THE DEMOGRAPHER, AND THE 200 IS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW AS A TREND OVER WHAT WE SAW AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR. 
          >> ONE MORE QUESTION. THERE IS A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE TO GO FROM ATTENDANCE TO ENROLLMENT BASED? 
          >> YES. 
          >> AND THIS IS STILL BASED ON ATTENDANCE. 
          >> THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION [OVERLAPPING] IS BASED ON HOUSE BILL 100. 
          ANYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS BEING TALKED ABOUT AT THE LEGISLATURE THAT'S GOING TO TOTALLY CHANGE THIS PRESENTATION MONDAY MORNING. 
          >> HOUSE BILL 100 IS NOT ENROLLMENT BASED. 
          >> NO. IT'S STILL 88. 
          >>TOO MANY HOUSE BILLS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          >> SPECIFIC POPULATIONS CHANGE TO ENROLLMENT DAYS, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. 
          >> RIGHT. 
          >> GOT YOU. THANK YOU. 
          >> LET'S DIVE INTO THESE SCENARIOS. 
          WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES IS GOING TO BE THE $90 INCREASE THAT'S IN HOUSE BILL 100. 
          BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COMPARE THAT WITH OUR FLAT ENROLLMENT THE 188 REDUCTION AND THE 200 INCREASE. 
          AT MCR RIGHT NOW, THAT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE SHOWS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AT 0.7284. 
          IF YOU ADD THE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES, IT GOES TO 7784. 
          THEN YOU SEE THE ENROLLMENT AND THEN IN $90. 
          OUR CURRENT TAX COLLECTION. 
          >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          >> OUR CURRENT TAX COLLECTION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE ADOPTED BUDGET. 
          THE NEXT THREE ARE THE THREE SCENARIOS. 
          BUT THE TAX COLLECTION NUMBER STAYS THE SAME. 
          IT'S $ 440.8 MILLION. 
          THAT IS A REDUCTION FROM THE ADOPTED BUDGET ABOUT $13 MILLION BECAUSE OF THE LOWER TAX RATE. 
          THE NEXT TWO NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR INVESTMENT INCOME IS GROWING DUE TO HIGHER INTEREST RATE SET BY THE FEDS. 
          WE HAD $100 LAST YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR, CURRENT BUDGET, AND WE'RE PROJECTING SEVEN MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EARN THIS YEAR. 
          IF YOU KNOW THAT OUR FAIRS RAISED INTEREST RATE AGAIN BY 1/4 PERCENT JUST THE OTHER DAY. 
          WE DON'T SEE IT CHANGING, GOING DOWN. 
          OTHER LOCAL REVENUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN JUST A LITTLE, INDIRECT COSTS, STATE FLAT, THE STATE REVENUE, AS YOU KNOW, IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR ENROLLMENT. 
          THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE SCENARIOS. 
          BUT THE ONE AT KEEPING THE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES IS TO 17,000,393. 
          OUR SHARS IS GOING DOWN. 
          FEDERAL RESERVE'S STAYS ABOUT FLAT, AND OUR TEACHER RETIREMENT SYSTEM ON BEHALF STAYS FLAT. 
          AT A FIVE GOLDEN PENNY SCENARIO, TOTAL REVENUE PROJECTION IS $505 MILLION. 
          IN BUILDING THE BUDGET, YOU ALWAYS START FOR YOUR EXPENSES WITH WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE BACK DOWN ON THE FOURTH LINE, YOU WILL SEE $445 MILLION. 
          THAT WAS OUR TOTAL EXPENSES LAST YEAR WITHOUT RECAPTURE. 
          WE HAVE IDENTIFIED $10.5 MILLION IN BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND THERE'S A SLIDE ON THAT FARTHER BACK IN THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN THERE'S AN INCREASE OF A DISTANCE OF $23.4 MILLION OF WHICH, A PORTION OF THAT IS PART OF THE SALARY INCREASE THAT'S MANDATED BY THE STATE WHEN YOU ADD THE $90. 
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YOU WILL SEE THAT LINE ALSO BACK WHEN WE DO THE SLIDE ON THE DISTANCE. 
          OUR TOTAL DISTRICT EXPENSES, AND THOSE THREE SCENARIOS IS $458.4 MILLION. 
          YOU ADD THE RECAPTURE IN, AT THE 75, 76, AND THE 74 MILLION AND YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR TOTAL EXPENSES. 
          IN TOTAL, AT FLAT ENROLLMENT, WITH AN MCR, 70 TO 84 AND THE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES ADD DEFICIT IS $ 28 MILLION. 
          AT 188 REDUCTION IN KIDS IS $29.7 MILLION. 
          WE GET 200 KIDS, IT GOES DOWN TO 27.4, AS A SUBTOTAL. 
          THERE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IN CONSIDERATION. 
          THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INCREASE FOR THE 2023 SCHOOL YEAR WAS $3 MILLION THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO FIND OUT A FINE BALANCE. 
          UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT, AGAIN TO TAKE IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET. 
          NOW, THE NUMBER GROWS TO THOSE 31, 32, AND 30 MILLION RESPECTIVELY IN THE THREE SCENARIOS. 
          ALSO IN HOUSE BILL 100, THERE ARE SOME FUNDING INCREASES FOR TRANSPORTATION, FINE ARTS, AND SPECIAL AD EVALUATION, SO WE ADD THOSE IN AND YOU GET ANOTHER SUBTOTAL WHERE YOU SEE THE CHANGES. 
          THE NEXT LINE IS THE REST OF THE 2% THAT'S NOT COVERED BY THE MANDATED INCREASE FOR THE $90 IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, SO TO GET TO A 2% WE GOT TO ADD A MILLION 266 TO THE BUDGET TO GET TO THE 2%. 
          BRINGING OUR DEFICITS IN THOSE THREE COLUMNS TO THE 30.9, 32, AND $29.7 MILLION. 
          NOW, IF WE SAYING WE WANT 5%, YOU HAVE TO ADD $10.7 MILLION MORE TO THE BUDGET, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT TAKES YOUR DEFICIT AT A FLAT. 
          MINUS 180 KIDS AND THE PLUS 200 KIDS ARE THE 41.6, TO 42.7, AND $40.4 MILLION. 
          THAT'S WITH THE $90 INCREASED AS IN HOUSE BILL 100. 
          IN THE LAST TWO LINES THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM, YOU SAW THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE MEDICAL INSURANCE. 
          THE LAST TIME THEY'VE UPDATED IT SINCE I'VE SEEN IT. 
          THE LAST TIME I SAW, IT ONLY COVERED FOUR MILLION WITH THE CHANGES IN THE PREMIUMS, AND SO THERE WAS A $2.2 MILLION SHORTFALL. 
          BUT THE ONE THEY SHOWED TONIGHT, THEY TOTALLY COVERED IT ALL. 
          WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK ON THAT ONE, AND THE SUMMER SCHOOL INCREASE OVER HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS IN THE S ARE FUNDING IT WAS ONE MILLION DOLLARS. 
          BUT SUMMER SCHOOL HAS BEEN RUNNING AT 1.5 FOR THE LAST TWO SUMMERS, SO UNLESS WE CHANGE WHAT WE DO FOR SUMMER SCHOOL, WE HAVE TO FIND A $500,000 FOR THAT. 
          BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT THE DEFICITS OF THE 41.6 TO 42.7, AND 40.4. 
          >> CAN YOU SEE WHY THOSE ARE GREEN, THOSE BLOCKS? 
          >> YEAH. I FORGOT TO CHANGE THE COLOR TO RED. 
          >> THEY SHOULD BE RED. 
          >> THEY SHOULD BE RED. 
          >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING ELSE. 
          >> NO. 
          >> I WAS LIKE, AM I NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU SHOWN? 
          >> THEY SHOULD BE RED, MY FAULT. YES. 
          >> I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE-CHECK. THANK YOU. 
          >> THAT IS THE SCENARIO, WORST-CASE, [LAUGHTER] $40 MILLION DEFICIT. 
          LET'S LOOK AT A SCENARIO. 
          IF WE ADD ONE GOLDEN PENNY, TAKING IT FROM FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES TO SIX GOLDEN PENNIES UNDER THOSE SAME SCENARIOS, I MEAN, FLAT ENROLLMENT A REDUCTION UP 188 KEYS AND PLUS 200 KEYS. 
          AS YOU SEE, OUR TAX COLLECTION GOES OFF TO $447.8 MILLION TO ASK BECAUSE THAT GOLDEN PENNY IS WORTH ABOUT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH GOLDEN PENNY. 
          OTHER THAN THE CHANGES. 
          >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IN CASE OUR NEW TRUSTEES AREN'T AWARE FOR US TO GET THAT GOLDEN PENNY, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A VOTER APPROVAL. 
          >> YES. 
          >> JUST MAKING SURE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST ADD THIS. 
          >> BUT MAYBE NOT. THERE ARE SOME TALK ON THE FLOOR ABOUT A BOY AND HAVING THIS DID TO ADD ONE. 
          >> EXACTLY. 
          >> IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN TAKE 8-9. 
          YOU CAN JUST TAKE ONE. 
          >> BUT I THOUGHT WE WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT STUFF IN HOUSE BILL 100. 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. [LAUGHTER]. THEY'LL HAVE TO GO 
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THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AGAIN IF YOU GO TO THE TOTAL REVENUES PAID BECAUSE THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ON THESE PAGES. 
          I TOTALLY APOLOGIZE. 
          NO. RIGHT HERE. 
          TOTAL REVENUE IS THE 511,762 UNDER THIS ADDING ONE GOLDEN PENNY. 
          OUR EXPENDITURES DO NOT CHANGE, YOUR RECAPTURE NUMBER CHANGES, SO YOUR TOTAL EXPENSES IS THE 533, 534, AND 532. 
          >> I KNOW I ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT RECAPTURE. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> BUT MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. 
          BUT LIKE ON SLIDE 10 RIGHT HERE, A 400 STUDENT DIFFERENCE BASICALLY FROM MINUS 188 TO POSITIVE 200. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY A 400 STUDENTS DIFFERENCE. 
          OUR RECAPTURE DIFFERENCES ONLY BASICALLY, 2.2 MILLION. 
          I THOUGHT RECAPTURE WAS AFFECTED A LOT MORE THAN THAT. 
          THAT IF WE HAD 400 STUDENTS, IT WAS WORTH MORE THAN TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN RECAPTURE. 
          >> YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT AS FAR AS [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> NO. I WAS GOING TO SAY. 
          >> GO AHEAD. 
          >> I HAD A MEETING WITH SOME BODY FANTASTIC BE THE WAY THAT THE STATE CALCULATES RECAPTURE. 
          THERE ARE 87 FACTORS THAT GOES INTO CALCULATING RECAPTURE AND IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH YOUR WATER, WHICH IS THE WEIGHT OF ALL THOSE SPECIAL POPULATION OF KIDS, AND SO CALCULATING THAT, PERSONALLY, I'M SO THANKFUL THAT OMAR HAS PUT THIS IN A SPREADSHEET, SO I AIN'T GOT TO CALCULATE 87 LINES EVERY TIME WE CHANGE SOMETHING. 
          BUT WHEN YOU PLUGGED AT THE FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO PLUG INTO HIS SPREADSHEET IS YOUR ADA, YOUR TAX RATE, AND HOW MUCH TAXES YOU GOING TO EXPECT TO TAKE IN, WHICH MEANS BASED ON YOUR PROPERTY VALUE, AND IT WORKS HIS MAGIC, AND THIS IS WHAT CAME OUT. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT TO YOUR POINT, IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR RECAPTURE, I THINK WE ALSO NEED OUR STUDIO, SO AUTOMATICALLY ALL YOU SEND IT ALL THIS $100 MILLION TO THE STATE. 
          REALLY, I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU'RE GETTING 3,000 STUDENTS, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL GET TO KEEP SOME OF THAT MONEY, BUT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP 100 MILLION BECAUSE THE REASON MAIN REASON WHY WE SEND IN MORE MONEY TO RECAPTURE IS THAT BECAUSE WE COLLECT IN A LOT MORE IN TAXES TO START UP WITH, SO OUT OF THAT $100 MILLION, EVEN LET'S SAY FORGET 3,000 MORE STUDENTS WE'LL PROBABLY THE MOST WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP AND WE CAN RUN SOME NUMBERS, MAYBE AROUND 30 MILLION. 
          WE STILL WILL HAVE TO SEND ANOTHER 70 BACK TO THE STATE, SO IT'S NOT JUST YOU GET 3,000 MORE STUDENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP $100 MILLION. 
          IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, THERE'S A FORMULA FOR HOW MUCH YOU CAN KEEP AND HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO SEND BACK TO THE STATE. 
          >> ACTUALLY, THOUGH, THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE CLARITY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHEN DR. ODICS WAS HERE AND WHEN I FIRST CAME ONTO THE BOARD, IF WE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR ENROLLMENT BY 3,000 STUDENTS, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD PUT US IN A FAST GROWTH. 
          >> IT WILL. 
          >> THAT ACTUALLY TRIGGERS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WHERE I THINK ACTUALLY WE WOULD GET TO KEEP A LOT OF MONEY. 
          YOU ACTUALLY GET TO KEEP A LOT MORE OF YOUR MONEY. 
          IT TRIGGERS A LOT OF THINGS, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT TALKING OFF THE CUFF AND GIVING MISINFORMATION BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ACTUALLY TO DR. AZAIEZ, FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AT ROUND ROCK ISD, THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN AMAZING THING FOR OUR DISTRICT AND WE WOULD GET TO KEEP A LOT OF MONEY. 
          >> BUT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT RECAPTURE. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH BEING A FAST GROWTH. 
          >> I THINK IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS RECAPTURE THOUGH, DOESN'T IT? DO YOU REMEMBER TRUSTEE LANDRUM? 
          >> I THINK IT AFFECTED RECAPTURE AND OTHER INCENTIVES. 
          >> YEAH. YOU REMEMBER DR. 
          BONE, I SAID WE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH SOMEBODY FROM TASB ALWAYS SHE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT PROBABLY TO THE NEXT BUDGET, HOPEFULLY MEETING SO THEY CAN GO OVER SOME OF THESE RECAPTURE STUFF, SO HOPEFULLY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN SOME MORE, I GUESS, ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. 
          >> YEAH, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW ENROLLMENT AFFECTS RECAPTURE IN OUR BUDGET AND FAST GROWTH. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE DIFFERENT ALLOTMENTS. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALSO ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, SO I APPRECIATE THAT DR. AZAIEZ. 
          >> LET ME TRY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING FIRST. 
          >> CHAIR OF THE 400 KIDS AT 6,250 IS ONLY $2.9 MILLION. 
          >> SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          >> THE 400 KIDS WILL CHANGE AT 6,250, 
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WHICH IS THE $90, ADD IT TO THE BASIS GOOD ALLOTMENT ONLY COMES WITH 2.9 MILLION. 
          YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD THINK THE NUMBER WOULD BE DIFFERENT ON THE RECAPTURE? 
          >> YES. 
          >> [BACKGROUND]. 
          >> IT WOULD BE REDUCED BY $2.9 MILLION, IF WE CAP IT ALL. 
          FOR US TO FAST GROWTH AND RECAPTURE, YOU WILL GET A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR FAST GROWTH. 
          THE ONLY THAT EFFECT ON RECAPTURE WOULD BE THAT YOU GOT MORE KIDS SO IT WILL WE CHANGE OR RECAPTURE, BUT THE FAST GROWTH ALLOTMENT DOES NOT GO INTO RECAPTURE. 
          THAT'S A SEPARATE CALCULATION. 
          THAT SEPARATE ADDITIONAL MONEY, AND I THINK WE DID GET ABOUT 17 MILLIONS WHEN WE WAS DEEMED FAST GROWTH. 
          BUT THE EFFECT OF RECAPTURE WOULD BE YOU JUST GOT MORE KIDS. 
          IT WOULDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT DOES FAST GROWTH ALLOTMENT. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> LOOKING AT THE $0.01 GROWTH AND GOLDEN PENNIES, OUR DEFICIT IS NOW AT 21, 22, AND 20.7 MILLION DOLLARS, BEFORE WE START ADDING IN THOSE SAME ITEMS THAT WE ADDED IN BEFORE WITH THE THREE MILLION FOR THE MEDICAL INSURANCE. 
          THE DISTANCE OF THE HOUSE BILL 100 PROPOSALS, THE EXTRA 1.2 MILLION FOR THE SALARY INCREASE TO GET TO TWO PERCENT, AND THEN THE 10.69 TO GET TO FIVE PERCENT, AND YOU SEE THERE. 
          DEFICIT IS NOW 34.8 MILLION DOLLARS WITH FLAT ENROLLMENT 35.9 IF WE LOSE 188 GEARS, AND 33.7, IF WE GAIN 200 GEARS. 
          AGAIN, IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MEDICAL INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR THE 2024 SCHOOL YEAR TO INCREASE FOR SUMMER SCHOOL, NOR THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR STIPENDS. 
          ANOTHER SCENARIO WE RAN IS WHAT IF WE GO TO THE EIGHT PENNIES, WHICH WE CAN GO TO EIGHT GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          SAME TYPE SCENARIO YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT TAX COLLECTION IT GREW BY 14 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE SIX GOLDEN PENNIES TO 461 MILLION STATE AID IS ABOUT 19.3, 19.4, SO YOU GET A 528 MILLION DOLLAR REVENUE BUDGET. 
          SAME SCENARIOS WITH JOY EXPENSES AND THE RECAPTURE, AND SO YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES IS THE 529.7 TO 530.8 AND 530.5. 
          >> CAN YOU CLARIFY THOUGH, TO GO TO THE EIGHT PENNIES, THAT'S A VOTE OF THE PUBLIC. 
          >> EVEN THEY GO TO SIX IS A FAULT OF THE PUBLIC. 
          >> THAT WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER? > YES, MA'AM. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> ON SLIDE 15, OUR DEFICIT, LOOKS A LITTLE BETTER. 
          ONE MILLION, 2.8 MILLION, 2.4 MILLION, THEN WHEN YOU ADD ANY MEDICAL INSURANCE FOR 2023, THE INCREASE IS FOR HOUSE BILL 100, 1.2 MILLION FOR THE TWO PERCENT AND THE 10.745 PERCENT DEFICIT IS 14.6 MILLION WITH FLAT FUNDING, 15.8 MILLION WITH 188K REDUCTION, AND 15.4, BUT 200 GEAR INCREASE WITH THE SAME OTHER CALLS, NOT ADDED IN. 
          THE LAST SCENARIO IS, WHAT IF THE LEGISLATURE AGREE WITH THE STATE CONTROLLER, AND SAID THAT WE SHOULD MATCH INFLATION. 
          THAT MEANS WE RAISED THE BASIC ALLOTMENT BY 900 DOLLARS. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR CURRENT TAX COLLECTION, IS THAT IN THIS SCENARIO IS WITH THE SAME FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          SO THE REVENUE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. 
          THE ONLY CHANGE IS IN THE RECAPTURE NUMBER. 
          YOUR EXPENSES REMAIN THE SAME, SO IF YOU SKIP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RECAPTURE NUMBER, YOU WILL SEE THAT I RECAPTURE IS NOW IN THE 20 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE AND STILL THE SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR RANGE. 
          YOU GET TO KEEP MORE OF THE MONEY. 
          IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 19, YOU SEE WE ARE IN THE GREEN AT FLAT. 
          IF WE LOSE KIDS, 
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WE ARE 627,000 DOLLARS IN THE HOLE AND WE HAVE 200 KIDS WITH 1.9 MILLION TO THE GOOD TILL WE ADD IN THOSE SAME EXPENSES. 
          THAT'S ON ALL THE OTHER SCENARIOS WITH THE MEDICAL INSURANCE, THE INCREASE FOR HOUSE BILL 100. 
          IN THIS SCENARIO, YOU WON'T SEE ANY MORE INCREASES FOR YOUR TWO PERCENT AND THE FIVE PERCENT, BECAUSE THIS ALREADY PICKED UP WITH THE 900 DOLLARS. 
          AND SO YOU SEE ALSO ADD 20. 
          HOW WE WOULD LOOK EXCEPT THESE LAST 188 CASES THERE'LL BE THE RED AT 1.6 MILLION. 
          >> MR. COVINGTON. 
          >> YES. 
          >> HOUSE BILL 100 ALSO GIVES A FOUR PERCENT CREDIT FOR AN EARLY RECAPTURE PAYMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN HERE. 
          >> NO, IT'S NOT. 
          >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          >> YES. 
          >> ON SLIDE 19, YOU'VE GOT THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INCREASE OF THREE MILLION, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE ON SLIDE 20, THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INCREASE OF 2.2 MILLION. 
          HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS. IF WE HOLD ON. 
          IF WE APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE NEXT YEAR IS THAT GOING TO SAY 5.2 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD TO FUND IN THE PAST. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 
          >> THE THREE MILLION, IS THE FINE BALANCE APPROPRIATION THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THIS YEAR TO COVER HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          IF YOU DON'T ADD THAT TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, WE HAVE TO MOVE THREE MILLION AGAIN OUT OF FUND BALANCE FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          JUST TO COVER THE 2023 MEDICAL INCREASE, SO I'M SAYING TO RECTIFY THAT, JUST LIKE ESSER, TO PUT THOSE FUNDS IN THE OPERATING BUDGET IS ALSO A RECURRING EXPENSE WAS NOT AN AUTOMATIC HIT TO FUND BALANCE. 
          THAT WAS FOR '23. 
          THE 2.2 MILLION, IT WAS AN ESTIMATE THAT I HAD BEFORE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT MADE A PRESENTATION FOR THE 2024 FUND BALANCE HERE, IF WE DON'T INCREASE PREMIUMS TO EMPLOYEES. 
          >> WHEN WE APPROVED THE THREE MILLION LAST YEAR, IT WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS AND WE WERE GOING TO ABSORB THAT COST. 
          >> CORRECT. 
          >> THIS IS MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE OUR PREMIUMS, WE'RE GOING TO ABSORB THAT COST PLUS ANOTHER 2.2 MILLION? 
          >> THIS IS ASSUMING THAT IF WE DON'T MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WAS HERE EARLIER TONIGHT SET FOR OUR PREMIUMS, WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE 5.2 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE HEALTH SERVICE FUND OUT OF THIS ONE. 
          OUT OF THE MNO BUDGET, YOU NEED TO MOVE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE HEALTH SERVICE LINE. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT MEANT. 
          BUT THAT GOES BACK TO MY QUESTION THAT I HAD DURING THE PRESENTATION IS HOW CAN WE KEEP UP THIS DEFICIT IN PERPETUITY WITHOUT PASSING SOME OF THE I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO RAISE OUR PREMIUMS, BUT WE CAN'T BE ABSORBING THREE MILLION AND FIVE MILLION YEAR AFTER YEAR OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A SLIDE WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. 
          ONE OF THEM WAS TO CHANGE A DEDUCTIBLE PREMIUM TO SAY MAYBE 2-3 MILLION. 
          THERE WAS ANOTHER SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT MAYBE PHARMACY OR USING THE PHARMACY MEDICINE COSTS FOR ABOUT A MILLION. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE STRATEGIES TO YOUR POINT, SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO AND DO THIS AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT, AND THEN MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DESIGN, A PLAN DESIGN TOO, WITHOUT REALLY RAISING TOO MUCH THE PREMIUM OR ON THE DEDUCTIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, NO DOUBT. 
          >> IF WE CAN FIX THAT FUND, YOU WOULD TAKE THE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OFF THIS COMPLETELY. 
          >> HE HAD THAT AMBER, IF YOU REMEMBER, HE HAD ABOUT SEVEN MILLION THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO CUT, AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOKED AT WHAT THEY WERE PROJECTING FOR OUR DEFICIT, IT WAS 7.6 MILLION. 
          IF IT BALANCED OUT, THEN I THINK YOU SAID IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, THAT WOULD GO AWAY. 
          >> YOU WOULD ADD FIVE MILLION DOLLARS BACK INTO THIS PLACE. 
          >> BASED ON THAT PRESENTATION. 
          >> WHEN WILL WE HAVE MORE SOLID NUMBERS ON THE EFFECT OF THESE DECISIONS WITH OUR HEALTH BALANCE? 
          >> ANY OF THE PLAN REDESIGNS WOULD TAKE EFFECT FOR PLAYING NEAR 2024, SO STARTING IN JANUARY. 
          REALLY THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW AROUND EDUCATION, WE'RE HOPING WILL PAY DIVIDENDS THIS YEAR, BUT THE PLAN REDESIGN WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT ON NEXT YEAR. 
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THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT WITH THE BUDGET VERSUS THE HEALTH INSURANCE IS THAT YOU'RE RUNNING A JULY, JUNE SCENARIO ON BUDGET AND THEN THE PLAN YEARS ARE JANUARY, DECEMBER, SO IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY. 
          >> THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THIS IS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CUT THE FIVE-POINT TWO BY HALF. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE SUNK COSTS WERE IN FOR 2.6 MILLION FOR SURE WITHOUT ANY CHANGES, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WITH SOME CHANGES TOO THOUGH. 
          THE HEALTH INSURANCE STRUCTURE AND THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY, WE COULD POSSIBLY CUT 2.6. 
          THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY GET OUT OF THE 5.2. 
          >> IT'S ALL FORECASTING AT THIS POINT. 
          IT'S ALL FORECASTING. 
          WE WILL HAVE AN IDEA IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHO MOVE INTO THE DIFFERENT PLAN OPTIONS AFTER OPEN ENROLLMENT IN OCTOBER. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'LL STILL BE FORECASTING, TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, WE JUST CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF THOSE HIGH CLAIMS COSTS FOR EXAMPLE. 
          >> BECAUSE IT'S THE SEMESTER FOR THE FALL SEMESTER, LIKE IT'S TOO LATE. 
          WE CANNOT CHANGE THE PLANS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, SO YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          IT WOULD BE HALF OF THAT. 
          BUT WE'RE DOING SOME OTHER THINGS JUST TO HELP, AND WE HOPE AND ALSO FOR THE CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE THIS HYPE CLAIMS FOR THE FALL TOO SO THAT COULD REDUCE ALSO THE COST. 
          >> BUT WE CAN'T BUDGET ON HOPE. 
          >> BUT TO BE CLEAR TO I BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID IS THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY BE HIGHER. 
          THAT'S JUST A FORECAST SO IT ACTUALLY COULD BE, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. 
          IT COULD ACTUALLY BE MORE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY SAW LAST YEAR. 
          >> CORRECT. OUR ACTUALS WERE GREATER THAN OUR FORECAST FOR THESE EXPENDITURES. 
          >> WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. THE NEXT SLIDE, ON EACH OF THOSE SCENARIOS YOU'VE SOLD A $10.5 MILLION REDUCTION TO THE BUDGET. 
          TRUSTEE BONE, THANK YOU. 
          READ THESE ALL FOR ME EARLIER [LAUGHTER]. 
          BUT THESE ARE THE REDUCTIONS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE BUDGET THAT DUE TO ENROLLMENT DECLINES. 
          THERE'S NO HIT TO THIS CLASSROOM IS JUST DUE TO THE ENROLLMENT DECLINE, WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING FORMULAS, THE USE OF THE COST WE CAN MAKE BECAUSE WE LOVE STUDENTS. 
          THE COST SAVINGS AND TEACHER FTES IS 3.3 MILLION OF 55 POSITIONS. 
          APS WERE SEVEN FOR 529,000. 
          COUNSELORS WAS FOUR-AND-A-HALF, FOR ALMOST 300,000. 
          THEN WE ALSO REDUCED OUR CUSTODIAL ALLOCATION BASED ON THESE 30 POSITIONS THAT HAS BEEN VACANT YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          WE CANNOT FILL THOSE POSITIONS. 
          IT HAS A 1.3 MILLION DOLLAR CUT. 
          THEN WE ELIMINATED HIGH SCHOOL ACADEMIC SUPPORT TEACHERS, THAT WAS THREE PER SCHOOL, TO A TOTAL OF 15 POSITIONS FOR 901,000. 
          WE HAD A CLASS AS A TARGET FOR STAFF AND RACIAL ADJUSTMENT. 
          WELL, WE REDUCED 3040 FTES FOR TWO MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THE LIBRARY ASSISTANT STAFFING. 
          WHEN WE FIRST DONE THIS REDUCTION, THIS WAS ELIMINATING ALL OTHER LIBRARY ASSISTANTS. 
          YOU WILL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM BACK AND DID A REDUCTION IN OUR DEPARTMENT ALLOCATIONS BY THE 5%. 
          NOW SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS COULDN'T TAKE A 5% REDUCTION FOR UTILITIES, PROPERTY TAXES, GAS, THOSE ITEMS ARE INCREASING. 
          THE NET OF ALL THOSE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH TOTALED AT $10.5 MILLION FOR THE REDUCTIONS. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE WAS ALL THE INCREASES TO THE BUDGET. 
          AS YOU SEE THE TOP LINE IS THE $7.4 MILLION. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE $90 INCREASE THAT WE MUST PAY IN SALARY INCREASES IF THEY RAISE IT BY $90. 
          NDE, $900 INCREASE, THAT NUMBER GOES UP BY $27 MILLION. 
          THE PAY INCREASE WILL BE GREATER THAN 5% IF WE GET $900 INCREASE BECAUSE THAT NUMBER WILL BE GREATER THAN OUR 19 MILLION. 
          BUT THEN YOU SEE THE ANSWER. 
          THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS IN SUMMER SCHOOL THAT WE HAD TO PUT BACK IN THE BUDGET. 
          THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WENT OVER BEFORE THE LAST TIME WE MET. 
          OUR INSURANCE PREMIUM FOR A PROPERTY IS GOING UP $1.6 MILLION. 
          THE FUEL PRICES STABILIZED, SO IT USED TO BE HALF A MILLION, IS 350,000. 
          THE CTE SPEND IS STILL THE MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THEN YOU SEE THE REVISED LIBRARY ASSISTANT STAFFING MODEL, WHERE WE PUT ALMOST $500,000 BACK IN THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW STAFFING MODEL FOR LIBRARY ASSISTANCE. 
          [03:25:04]
THE SPECIAL ED IS DUE TO LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE COVER THE STAFFING NEEDED FOR OUR SPECIAL ED POSITIONS. 
          THAT'S 1.4 MILLION. 
          WE HAVE SOME POSITIONS FOR STRATEGIC STAFFING, AT 781,000. 
          EXTRA DUTY RATES. 
          FUNDING OUR TEACHER REFERRAL PROGRAM. 
          A ONE-TO-ONE SERVICE CREDIT FOR OUR RNS. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REST OF THEM THAT CAME TO THE $23.4 MILLION THAT WAS ON EACH SCENARIO FOR THE DISTANCE TO THE BUDGET. 
          ALSO IN HOUSE BILL 100. 
          IT WAS A LAND FOR A SCHOOL SAFETY ALLOTMENT AND IS ABOUT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS FOR US. 
          THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION OUT THERE TO TELL HOW WE CAN USE THIS FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          BUT THE FOUR ITEMS BELOW ARE THINGS THAT WE KNOW, WE WILL USE TO INCREASE FOR. 
          PART OF REQUIREMENTS IN THAT BILL WAS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A ARMED PERSON IN EVERY SCHOOL OR CAMPUS. 
          HOW MUCH THAT COST? DEPENDING ON HOW YOU STAFF IT. 
          IS IT THE SR ROLE, SECURITY PERSON, A GUARDIAN? BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE TO PUT ARMED INDIVIDUAL ON OUR CAMPUSES. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ON WHAT ELSE THOSE DOLLARS ARE FOR, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THE STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, WE CAN REDIRECT SOME OF THESE FUNDS BACK INTO OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THE PANIC ALARM, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. 
          WE'RE HOPING WE'D GET SOME RELIEF OUT OF THE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THE OTHER PIECE WAS THIS STUFF FOR THE ADVANCED MATH PATHWAY THAT THEY PUT $150,000 IN FOR THAT, THAT WE MUST BE IN ON THAT ADVANCED PATHWAY. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON ENROLLMENT SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK GLIMPSE OF HIGH ENROLLMENT, WHAT HAS BEEN GOING SINCE 2017, 18 FOR ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, SINCE 2019-2023, WE LOST 3,707 KIDS AT 7.36%. 
          NOW, LATER ON TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A MORE IN-DEPTH LOOK ON ENROLLMENT. 
          BUT AT 46,680 DEBT, OUR BUDGET IS BUILT ON FOR NEXT YEAR, WE ARE ABOVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WENT DOWN THE 200 INCREASED SCENARIO. 
          THAT IS IT ON THE M&O FUNDS SO I'LL JUST STOP THERE BEFORE WE GET TO THE REST OF THE FUNDS. 
          >> TRUSTEES, QUESTIONS ON THE M&O BUDGET PRESENTATION? BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THE ONLY FEEDBACK I MIGHT HAVE IS ON SLIDE 21 AND THEN TO 22. 
          YOU PUT ALL THE DIGITS IN THE MILLIONS ON SLIDE 21, BUT THEN YOU DIDN'T IN SLIDE 22. 
          IF A COMMUNITY MEMBER WERE TO JUST LOOK AT THIS PRESENTATION, IT MAY NOT BE REALLY CLEAR TO THEM. 
          THAT LOOKS LIKE OUR BUDGET WE'RE CUTTING 10 MILLION, BUT WE'RE ONLY ADDING 23,000. 
          THE SAME THING ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          JUST SOME NOTATION THAT THESE ARE IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          I KNOW IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH, BUT JUST MIGHT HELP CLARIFY IT IN CASE SOMEBODY JUST PICKED UP THAT PRESENTATION. 
          >> I'LL PUT IT IN THERE AND RE-POST IT. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, TRUSTEE BONE? 
          >> I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS. 
          ON SLIDE 21, YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT SOME OF THIS WAS BECAUSE OF REDUCTION OF STUDENTS. 
          BUT IN THE EMAIL WE GOT, IT ACTUALLY SAID CLASS SIZES ARE INCREASING. 
          THOSE TWO THINGS DON'T, NUMBER WISE BECAUSE IF WE WERE LITERALLY JUST DECREASING BECAUSE OF STUDENTS THEN THE CLASS SIZES WOULDN'T INCREASE. 
          >> WELL, THERE'S TWO SCENARIOS. 
          THE FIRST THREE WAS DUE TO ENROLLMENT DECLINE. 
          BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO A REDUCTION. 
          IF YOU SEE DOWN AT CLASS SIZE TARGET FOR STAFFING RATIO ADJUSTMENT, THAT WAS THE LINE THEY'RE REFERRING TO. 
          BUT THE TOP THREE LINES, A CAMPUS WOULDN'T SEE AN EFFECT OF THOSE REDUCTIONS. 
          BUT THAT LAST LINE IS THE ONE THAT YOU GOT AN EMAIL ON. 
          >> OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THE EMAIL ACTUALLY COMBINE THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER IN ONE LINE. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> THAT WAS THE CONFUSION. 
          >> TRUSTEE MARKUM. 
          >> ON THE SAME SLIDE CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CRITERIA FOR THE COST-SAVINGS FOR REDUCING APS IN COUNSELORS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT THRESHOLD FOR LIBRARY ASSISTANCE AS FAR AS STUDENT ENROLLMENT AT SCHOOLS, 
          [03:30:04]
WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA FOR APS AND COUNSELORS? OR WERE THOSE VACANT POSITIONS? 
          >> THOSE ARE DUE TO ENROLLMENT DECLINES. 
          I CAN'T JUST DUE TO OUR STAFFING GUIDELINES, IF A NUMBER AT THE CAMPUS FELL BELOW A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEY MIGHT'VE LOST THAT ALLOCATION. 
          >> THANKS. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. 
          >> LET'S MOVE. 
          >> NOW TRUSTEE WESTON'S LIGHTS ON. 
          [LAUGHTER] I DON'T WANT TO. GO AHEAD AND FINISH. 
          >> NO, I WAS GOING MOVE TO I&S. 
          BUT IF YOU'VE GOT AN M&O QUESTION. 
          >> I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, BUT JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE DIALOGUE EARLIER, I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS IS DIFFICULT STUFF. 
          THANK YOU FOR NODDING, MR. COVINGTON. 
          DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT FUN TO HAVE. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN IN A FAMILY WHERE THE BREADWINNER LOSES THEIR JOB. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS SIMILAR, MAY BECOME A SIMILAR FEELING WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE THE GROUND YOU'RE STANDING ON IS A LITTLE BIT SHAKY. 
          >> I'VE BEEN IN SCHOOL FINANCE 27 YEARS. 
          THIS IS THE HARDEST BUDGET I EVER HAD TO TRY TO FORECAST. 
          >> JUST A BIT OF FEEDBACK, I THINK WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A DIFFICULT SUBJECT MATTER, THERE MIGHT BE SOME FRICTION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAUSES, STRATEGIES, AND REMEDIES. 
          I DO WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE DISCUSSION. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYBODY'S MISREPRESENTING ANYTHING OR HAS THE WRONG RHETORIC. 
          WE'RE SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT SETS OF LIFE EXPERIENCE AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND HEAR EACH OTHER OUT. THANK YOU. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. 
          >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE I&S BUDGET. 
          PRETTY MUCH SAME ASSUMPTIONS TO ESTIMATE THE PROPERTY VALUES AT THE 10%. 
          WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE LOWER THE I&S RATE BY ONE PENNY, THAT IT COVERS OUR DEBT PAYMENT AND A $25 MILLION DEFEASANCE PAYMENTS. 
          AS WE TALK ABOUT AND CONSIDER THE I&S RATE THAT WE CONSIDER, THE FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY AND OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS 113 MILLION WITH 70 MILLION PAYMENT DUE ON THE 1ST OF AUGUST. 
          HERE'S OUR SLIDE ON I&S. 
          RIGHT NOW FOR THE 22/23 SCHOOL YEAR ON I&S RATE IS 0.2080, WHICH WE COVERED WE RAISE 108 MILLION. 
          OUR PAYMENT WAS 407 MILLION, SO WE WOULD GAIN 847,000. 
          WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR 23/24, THE FIRST COLUMN IS WITHOUT THE DEFEASANCE PAYMENT. 
          THE SECOND COLUMN IS WITH A $25,000,000 DEFEASANCE PAYMENT. 
          AS YOU SEE AT THE SURPLUS DEFICIT, WHAT BEFORE THAT, OUR TOTAL REVENUE IS 113 MILLION. 
          WE NEED TO PAY 87.9 MILLION WITHOUT A DEFEASANCE PAYMENT, WITH THE 19.8 CENT TAX RATE, THAT WOULD GENERATE A $25,000,000 INCREASE TO OUR FUND BALANCE FOR I&S. 
          THAT'S WHY WE PROPOSE PAYING THE 25 MILLION AND DEFEASANCE PAYMENT FOR CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE DEBT. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS DISTRICT IS IN THE DOUBLE BOND AND SO IN WORKING WITH OUR BOND COUNSEL AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. 
          >> MR. KEVIN TAN, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. 
          >> [LAUGHTER] I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE. 
          BUT JUST REMEMBER, IN FUTURE CONSIDERATION OF A BOND. 
          WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE RATE ONLY DROPPED TO 19.8 AND THAT IS IT FOR THE I&S BUS. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          >> MR. COVINGTON, CAN YOU CONFIRM ON SLIDE 26, THE ONE BEFORE THIS? YOU HAVE ON THERE ABOUT THE $25 MILLION DEFEASANCE PAYMENTS. 
          SOME OBSERVERS MAY LOOK AT THAT AND AGAIN, THIS IS SLIDE 26. 
          SOME OBSERVERS MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, I JUST FOUND OUR RAISES FOR OUR STAFF. 
          CAN YOU CONFIRM FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY AND THAT THIS COULD NOT BE USED? 
          >> CORRECT. I&S CAN ONLY BE USED TO PAY THE DISTRICT'S DEBT, PRINCIPAL, AND INTEREST IT CANNOT BE MOVED TO YOUR M&O BUDGET. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          [03:35:01]
          >> THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IT'S BACK ON M&O BECAUSE IT CAME TO MIND WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT I&S BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN'T PAY OUT OF I&S WHICH TRUSTEE WESTON WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS IN A PERSONAL CONVERSATION OR BOARD MEETING. 
          BUT YOU WOULD MADE THE COMMENT THAT IN OUR M&O BUDGET, BASICALLY OUR FUNDS TO BUY A NEW AC OR DO-. 
          >> CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          >> OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS HAD BEEN DEPLETED. 
          IT MADE ME THINK THAT WHAT I'M USED TO SEEING IN THESE PRESENTATIONS AND I JUST WENT BACK TO THE 21/22 BUDGET AND I THINK I NEED TO SEE THIS. 
          I WOULD HOPE IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THOSE BUDGETS, WE ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THOSE LINE ITEMS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          DID YOU PUT MONEY INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE M&O BUDGET? 
          >> NO, MA'AM. IT'S EMPTY. 
          >> IT'S EMPTY AND IT STAYED EMPTY? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO SEE MORE REFINEMENT AND THE M&O BUDGET TO MAKE THESE HARD CHOICES THIS YEAR. 
          YOU CAN GO BACK AND YOU CAN SEE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD BEEN GIVEN IN CURRENT OR IN PAST YEARS. 
          IT WAS PRETTY STANDARD. 
          BUT IT WOULD SHOW US THINGS LIKE THAT THAT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WENT TO STUDYING BASICALLY AT ZERO AND THAT NO MONEY IS GOING INTO IT. 
          I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          >> LET ME ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION. 
          YOU WANT ME TO ADD A LINE FOR CAPITAL X AS TO WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN THE M&O BUDGET EVERY YEAR BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION A YEAR EASILY. 
          >> WELL, IT'S IN YOUR COMPARISON. 
          IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 2021/22 BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THAT WE WERE GIVEN BACK THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SALARY AND BENEFITS. 
          IT HAS ALLOCATIONS, IT HAS SURPLUS. 
          IT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS AND THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN HERE. 
          YES, IT WOULD HAVE LIKE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND IT WOULD SHOW LAST YEAR THAT WE HAD HOWEVER MUCH WE HAD IN THE 2022/2023 AND THEN IT WOULD SHOW THAT YOU'RE PUTTING NO MONEY IN THERE FOR THE 2023/2024 BUDGET. 
          >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IN THE CURRENT PRESENTATION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BREAKOUT OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, 447 MILLION. 
          IT HAS ALL THOSE LINES. 
          >> YEAH. YOU JUST HAVE I THINK FIVE OR SIX LINES. 
          >> I JUST SHOW THE CHANGES TO THOSE NUMBERS. 
          >> IN THE PAST, WE WOULD GET A MUCH MORE DETAILED AND I WOULD LIKE THAT MORE DETAILED SO THAT WE CAN SEE THINGS LIKE-. 
          >> YES, I CAN ADD THOSE. 
          >> THAT WAY IT LETS US SEE THAT OH, THERE'S NO MONEY THERE. 
          >> CORRECT? 
          >> OR THAT YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. 
          THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT I JUST WENT BACK AND PULLED UP PRESENTATION FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT. 
          WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT OR WE WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT. 
          IT HAS THAT ARE PROPOSED INS RATE IS 0.2139. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE JUNE 2022 PRESENTATION. 
          >> WE LOWERED IT TO THE 0.2080. 
          >> THEN DID WE CUT THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT WHEN WE LOWERED IT? 
          >> YES. WE HOPE THAT BASED ON THE PROJECTION THAT WE GOT FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY, THAT OUR REVENUE WILL STILL GENERATE THE SIX MILLION, SO WE CAN STILL MAKE THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT IF THAT CAME TO LIGHT. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> IT DID. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. 
          SO CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, SO YOU SAID IT DID? 
          >> YES. 
          >> WE GOT THAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS. 
          >> OH, YES. 
          >> WE MADE THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT. 
          >> WE HAVE NOT MADE THE DEFACEMENT PAYMENT. 
          WE HAVE THE REVENUE TO MAKE A DEFICIENT PAYMENT. 
          >> THAT'S SOMETHING AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE CAN GET A BIGGER DEFACEMENT PAYMENT? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> IN THE LAST BUDGET IS THE FOOD SERVICE FUND BUDGET. 
          OUR CONTRACT IS UP AT TDA TO BE APPROVED. 
          WE HAD TO REBUILD THE CONTRACT DUE TO AN AUDIT THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          BUT WE'VE SUBMITTED IT AND SO WE'RE HOPING HERE, ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE OUR CONTRACT IS APPROVED, THERE'S A PRICE INCREASE OF $0.20 IN THE CONTRACT. 
          OUR NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM, YOU WILL SEE A LOWER REIMBURSEMENT RATE. 
          WE HAVE AN EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS FUND BALANCE IN FULL SERVICES BUDGET. 
          [03:40:02]
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A PLAN TO SPEND THAT DAO TO MEET CURRENT REGULATIONS. 
          BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS, WHAT THE 0.20 INCREASE, OUR PROJECTED REVENUE IS THAT 11.74 MILLION WITH A TOTAL REVENUE OF 18.9, ENOUGH FOOD EXPENDITURES OF 17.2. 
          WE ARE PREDICTING A SURPLUS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, $1,000,751. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON. JUST QUICK QUESTION. 
          LOCAL REVENUE. 
          WHAT HAPPENS TO SCHOOL LUNCH DEBT? WHERE DOES THAT GO? WHERE DOES THAT COME OUT OF? 
          >> YOUR MNO BUDGET? IF THERE IS DEBT PAID, IT COMES OUT OF THE MNO. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE A COW SHARE WITH FOOL SERVICES. 
          SO LET'S SAY WE'VE PULLED TO GET A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE HAVE $100,000, WHICH IS WAY BIGGER THAN WE HAVE OF LUNCH DEBT FOR STUDENTS, YOU WILL LOWER THE MILLION DOLLARS TO DENIAL OR THOUSANDS. 
          NOW IN TOTAL, IF IT THE BAD DEBT FOR FOOL SERVICES, WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER THE BAD DEBT. 
          >> GOT IT. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE, WHERE? 
          >> I WAS CURIOUS JUST ABOUT THE NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM LOWERING THEIR REIMBURSEMENT RATE. 
          SO IF WE'RE INCREASING PRICES AND THEY'RE LOWERING THEIR REIMBURSEMENT RATE. 
          WHAT HAPPENS THEN TO OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE ON FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH OR FOR SURE, THE FREE LUNCH? 
          >> IT JUST LOWERS THAT FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT NUMBER THAT'S ON THE REVENUE SIDE. 
          THEN THE RIGHT THE REASON WHY THE RATE IS LOWER, WE GOT SOME SPECIAL RATES FOR THINGS WITH THEIR SCHOOL YEAR THAT'S GOING AWAY NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> THANKS. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. 
          SO THE PRICE INCREASE $0.20 ACROSS ELEMENTARY TO HIGH SCHOOL? 
          >> YES. THROUGHOUT SCHOOL. 
          >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MAKES? ALL THE LUNCH PRICES THEN? 
          >> I FORGOT TO ADD THAT SLIDE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          I HAVE THAT DATA. 
          I WILL SEND IT TO YOU, FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. 
          >> YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN [OVERLAPPING] ANYMORE. 
          >> I FORGOT TO ADD A COMPARISON SLIDE WITH ROUND ROCK AND ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGES 27 ACTUALLY SEEMS A PRETTY BIG PERCENTAGE BECAUSE OUR LUNCHES ARE FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE. 
          >> WE WON'T BE THE HIGHEST. 
          IT WILL PUT US IN RANGE WITH ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE. 
          I THINK THE MEAL IS 280 FOR LUNCH. 
          SO IT WILL GO TO THREE DOLLARS. 
          >> SO THIS IS A 78% INCREASE FOR OUR FAMILIES. 
          UNDERSTANDABLE.IF YOU COULD GET US THAT DAD, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> WE'LL DO. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY. 
          GET TO THIS 5%. 
          >> MR. COVINGTON, DO YOU NEED TO HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES ABOUT ME PRESENTED A BUNCH OF SCENARIOS ABOUT GOING FOR GOLDEN PENNIES AND WHATNOT. 
          DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK IF THAT'S EVEN IN THE APPETITE FOR? 
          >> YES. I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING OR WILL CONSIDER BECAUSE THAT TRIGGERS THAT BE TRE, PROCESS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL REALLY CONSIDER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL A VERY SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. 
          AUGUST 21ST, WILL HAVE TO GET THAT FINISHED. 
          >> SO TRUSTEES, JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THE PROCESS THAT WILL PASS A BUDGET IN JUNE. 
          WE DON'T PASS OUR TAX RATE UP UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 
          THINGS CAN CHANGE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE LEGISLATURE IF THEY ALLOW YOU TO GO FOR A SIX PENNY WITHOUT A VOTE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT YOU CAN PASS A BUDGET CONTINGENT ON A VATRE. WHAT IS IT? 
          >> VATRE. 
          >> YEAH, VATRE. THAT'S IT. 
          LAST YEAR, FLU GERBIL AND LEANDER DID BOTH THE DISTRICTS DID THAT. 
          BUT THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THIS DIETS. 
          IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GO FOR, WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT COMMITTING OURSELVES TO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. 
          THERE'S STILL A LOT UP IN THE AIR DEPENDING ON HOW BASIC FUNDING THE ALLOTMENT, BASIC ALLOTMENT COMES THROUGH. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE NECESSARILY EVEN BEFORE OUR BUDGET IN JUNE, WHICH THE LEGISLATURE WILL HOPEFULLY BE CONCLUDED UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL SESSION. 
          [03:45:06]
BUT JUST KNOWING IF YOU'RE EVEN WILLING TO CONSIDER IT AT THIS POINT TO KNOW FOR FUTURE PRESENTATIONS WHETHER TO INCLUDE THOSE KIND OF MODELS ON THERE OR NOT. 
          TRUSTEE, DR. JOSE. 
          >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          AS OF NOW, THE FIRST GOLDEN PENNIES, WHICH IS WE ALL HAVE THANKS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE GOING OUT FOR THE VOTE. 
          THE STATE ALLOWS SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE UP TO EIGHT GOLDEN PENNY. 
          IF OUR BOARD DECIDES TO INCREASE BY MORE THAN 11203, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR VOTES. 
          HOPEFULLY, IN NOVEMBER THAT THREE GOLDEN PENNIES, WHAT DENNIS WAS SAYING, WILL GENERATE ABOUT $20 MILLION, ABOUT $20 MILLION EXTRA, AND IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEND IN ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK TO THE STATE. 
          THAT MONEY COULD BE USED AND WILL BE USED IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE COMPENSATION THAT 5% TO OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. 
          ONE THING ALSO WE HAVE TO CLARIFY AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF YOUR SLIDES, DENNIS, WE ARE PROJECTING, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S TOO EARLY, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE OUR TAX RATE. 
          BUT BASED ON EVERY INDICATORS WE HAVE WE'RE PROJECTING TO SEE A DECREASE IN OUR TAX RATE FOR MNO RATE? WE KNOW THAT INS WOULD BE A ONE PENNY DECREASE. 
          THAT'S WHAT SO FAR WE WERE PROPOSING. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ALSO OUR MNO TAX RATE, THERE IS A DEGREES FROM 0.8 WHAT IS IT, DENNIS AGAIN, 0.8? 
          >> 8546. 
          >> 8046 WITHOUT THE FIVE PENNIES. 
          >> WITHOUT THE FIVE PENNIES. 
          >> THERE IS A DECREASE BY WHAT, EIGHT PENNIES, I THINK? 
          >> YES. 
          >> EVEN IF OUR BOARD DECIDES FOR US TO GO WITH THE THREE GOLDEN PENNIES, OUR TAXPAYERS WILL STILL SEE A DECREASE ON THEIR TAX RATE BY AT LEAST FIVE PENNIES PLUS THE ANOTHER PENNY THAT IT WILL BE COMING FROM THE INS. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR CLARIFICATION THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE ANY DECISION. 
          >> I'M GOING TO START AT THIS END THIS TIME AND GO DOWN WHAT YOUR APPETITE IS WITH TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST AT THIS POINT. 
          >> WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES HAVING MONEY PROBLEMS BY THE WAY. 
          PEOPLE OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE, AND I THINK I'M ALWAYS VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT, AND I'M ALSO VERY SENSITIVE TO LOTS OF OUR STAFF LIVES IN OUR DISTRICT TOO. 
          MY APPETITE IS ALSO THAT IT'S HIGH RISK BECAUSE IT'S THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE PROBLEM WHERE IT'S NOT UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED OUR BUDGET. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN RAISES. 
          IT IS VERY RISKY IN THE CLIMATE. 
          >> THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU WOULD ADOPT WOULD SAY PENDING PASSAGE OF THE VATRE, SO IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT REVERTS BACK TO THE RATE WITHOUT THE VATRE. 
          >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING PROPOSITION TO DO TO STAFF WHERE YOU CAN'T REALLY HIRE THEM WITH THEM KNOWING WHAT THEIR SALARY IS GOING TO BE. 
          RIGHT NOW MY APPETITE IS NOT TO DO THAT. 
          I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT RISK. 
          BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU THAT I HADN'T HAD YET THAT I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW IS JUST HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE WE HAVE AT THE LOWEST MONTH BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE DO OUR FUND BALANCE, IT'S ALWAYS CAPTURED IN JUNE AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE STILL PRETTY HIGH IN OUR [NOISE] AMOUNT. 
          BUT I KNOW NOVEMBER I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS. 
          I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT NUMBER AND I CAN GET WITH YOU TO GET THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING NUMBER FOR US TO HAVE AND WITH THE TAX RATE. 
          >> WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ABOUT $93 MILLION. 
          THAT'S THE PERIOD TILL WE START COLLECTING THE NEXT YEAR'S TAXES. 
          THAT WAY YOU SHOULD MAINTAIN 93 MILLION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH CASH ON HAND OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO COVER THAT PERIOD. THREE MONTHS. 
          >> THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS, WE WOULD HATE TO HAVE ANOTHER COVID, BUT WE ALL LIVED THROUGH THAT AND WE SHOULD ALL BE AWARE THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN ANYTIME. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF RISKS THAT WE HAVE TO, MOST OF US SHOULD STUDY RISK OF ORGANIZATIONS AND THERE'S RISK ASSOCIATED AND WE HAVE TO PAY OUR BILLS. 
          ALSO GOING OUT FOR THE EIGHT CENTS DEFINITELY WOULD NEVER PROBABLY VOTE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, 
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BECAUSE EIGHT PENNIES IS ALL WE CAN GET. 
          THAT'S THE MAX. I THINK THERE'S TALKS OF GOING TO NINE. 
          >> EIGHT GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          YOU CAN GET NINE COPPER PENNIES BUT YOU CAN GET EIGHT GOLDEN. 
          >> THERE'S THE NINE COPPER. 
          I WOULD NOT BE FOR MAXING OUT OUR GOLDEN PENNIES RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M GOING TO SIX, I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE COULD HAVE, BUT EIGHT I DON'T THINK SO. 
          >> TRUSTEE WEIR. 
          >> I DON'T THINK EIGHT CENTS WOULD PASS. 
          BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LETTING THE TAXPAYERS DECIDE IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          IT'S UP TO US TO SAY WHETHER WE EVEN WANT TO GIVE OUR TAXPAYERS A DECISION. 
          I'M ALWAYS UP FOR GIVING THE TAXPAYERS A VOTE AND A SAY IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          I WOULD THINK WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AT THIS. 
          JUST ONE PENNY IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP AN INS PENNY AT THE SAME TIME OR JUST A SWAP. 
          BUT IF THE REST OF THE BOARD WANTED EIGHT AND WE WANTED TO LET OUR COMMUNITY DECIDE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LETTING OUR COMMUNITY DECIDE. 
          >> TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. I'M OPEN TO EXPLORING THE GOLDEN PENNIES OPTION. THANK YOU. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          > THIS FEELS LIKE A STRAW POLL TO ME, WHICH I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING. 
          I DID NOT PREPARE TO COME TO THIS MEETING TONIGHT, BEING ASKED TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. 
          IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          RIGHT NOW I WOULD HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS WITH REGARD TO THIS QUESTION OF A TAX RATE INCREASE ELECTION. 
          BUT IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST, I WILL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK LEARNING MORE. 
          >> AGAIN, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK. 
          WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY VOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TRUSTEE MARKUM. 
          >> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, MR. COVINGTON, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING A SCENARIO IN THERE WITH A $900 BASIC ALLOTMENT SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN SEE WHY WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR WHAT THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER SAYS THAT WE NEED. 
          IT WAS A GOOD VISUAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE FIGHTING. 
          THEN I JUST WANT TO SAY I'LL BE OPEN. 
          I THINK I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO A DISCUSSION OF HOW WE CAN GET THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR OUR DISTRICT. 
          I AGREE THAT IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO LET OUR TAXPAYERS WEIGH IN ON THAT DECISION. 
          I'M OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION. 
          >>TRUSTEE ZARATE. 
          >> WHILE I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN SCHOOL FINANCE BY ANY MEANS, I WOULD WANT TO DO SOME RESEARCH, BUT I DEFINITELY TRUST OUR FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY THIS GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT, WHO HAS BEEN AT FOR 27 YEARS AND SAYS THAT THIS IS THE HARDEST ONE THAT HE'S HAD TO DO SO FAR. 
          IF THEY WERE TO COME TO US AND SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE GOOD TO GO, THEN I WOULD DEFINITELY BE OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, LET ME JUST ADD THIS. 
          MOST OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE GONE OUT FOR THE VATRE AND ALL OF THEM IT'S TIED TO TWO SALARY INCREASES. 
          >> SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. 
          >> THEY'VE TIED THE VATRE TO SALARY INCREASES. 
          THAT LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUT INTO THE RESOLUTION WOULD SAY THAT IS TIED TO SALARY INCREASES. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO ADD, WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND WILL BE MORE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS. 
          ALL ELSE TO RUN IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE EIGHT. 
          THEY ALREADY MAXED OUT THEIR GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          GEORGETOWN, HOLLOW, FLAVIO, LEANDER, AUSTIN. 
          >> I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> WHAT IS YOUR POINT? 
          >> MADAM CHAIR, I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          THIS WOULD BE A HIGH-VISIBILITY TOPIC IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE NOT ADVERTISED AND WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DOING, HOW MANY GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          I'M EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THIS CONVERSATION IS HEADED. 
          >> I AGREE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE AGREEING TO HAVING. 
          >> I WILL LEAVE THAT TO MS. HILL TO LET US KNOW IF WE ARE STRAINED OFF OF OUR POSTED TOPIC. 
          BUT SINCE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION INCLUDES DISCUSSIONS OF POSSIBLE GOLDEN PENNIES, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT'S POSTED IN THE AGENDA AND THE PRESENTATION. 
          >> YES. CONSIDERING THAT THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED DOES INCLUDE SOME GOLDEN PENNIES, WE ARE OKAY FOR JUST A VERY HIGH-LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT GOLDEN PENNIES. 
          BUT ANY SPECIFICS WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN A MORE SPECIFIC MEETING. 
          >> WHICH IS WHAT I HAD ADVISED JUST A HIGH LEVEL, DO WE HAVE AN APPETITE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER? 
          >> I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY PROBLEM WITH JUST DO WE HAVE AN APPETITE QUESTIONS, 
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I THINK THAT WOULD BE COVERED. 
          BUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY SPECIFICS ON WHAT'S REQUIRED WITH REGARDS TO VOTER APPROVAL, TAX RATE, OTHER THAN JUST SOME GENERAL STUFF LIKE HEY, WE'VE GOT SOME DEADLINES. 
          I KNOW THAT EARLIER MR. COVINGTON HAD POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE SOME DEADLINES IF THE DISTRICT DOES WANT TO GO FORWARD IN THAT THAT WILL BE COMING UP BEFORE YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE SUCH A TAX RATE. 
          THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT LIKE I SAID, FROM A HIGH LEVEL, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GO WITH THAT. 
          >> I DID NOT VOICE MY OPINION. 
          IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, I'M ALWAYS FOR KEEPING OUR TAXES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I DO NOT FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE OUR RESIDENTS' RESPONSIBILITY TO FUND THE DISTRICT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE STATE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION. 
          WE ARE 42ND IN THE NATION IN FUNDING PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND THAT IS APPALLING AND EMBARRASSING. 
          THIS STATE NEEDS TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, AND IF PUBLIC EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT, THEN YOU NEED TO FUND IT APPROPRIATELY. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, OUR RESIDENTS IN THE DISTRICT MAY VALUE PUBLIC EDUCATION MORE THAN LITTLE LEGISLATORS AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND I'M OPEN TO GIVING THEM THE CHOICE. 
          THEY HAVEN'T HAD A CHOICE UP TO THIS POINT AS TO WHETHER WE'VE RAISED THEIR TAXES, THE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES THAT WE'VE TAKEN, AND WE'VE MADE THAT AS A UNILATERAL DECISION AT THIS BOARD. 
          IF THE RESIDENTS OF ROUND ROCK ISD ARE WILLING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT THAT OUR LEGISLATORS ARE NOT, THEN I'M FINE WITH GIVING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          IT IS 09:36. WE HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S ACTUALLY ALMOST 09:37. 
          LET'S COME BACK AT 09:50 AND WE'LL TAKE A 13-MINUTE BREAK. WE ARE IN RECESS. 
          IT IS 9:50, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AND ONTO OUR LAST PRESENTATION OF THE EVENING. 
          I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR. AZAIEZ. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE AGAIN. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTION ABOUT ENROLLMENTS AND SOME HONORABLE MEMBERS WANTED TO GET SOME MORE UPDATES I GUESS ABOUT ENROLLMENT. 
          NOT ONLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT ALSO HOW THINGS ARE HAPPENING. 
          I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW SLIDES FIRST AND THEN I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR SOME QUESTIONS. 
          HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          IN THE FIRST SLIDE HERE WE HAVE IS I WANTED TO SHARE WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, TEA HAS A TRANSFER, OUR TRANSFER IN A WAY OF LOOKING AT NUMBERS, SO I WANTED FOR US TO SHARE THESE NUMBERS IN THE COURSE OF THE LAST 11 YEARS. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHEN ACTUALLY TEA STARTED ATTRACTING THESE NUMBERS. 
          WE WANTED ALSO NOT JUST FOR OUR DISTRICT, BUT I WANT TO ALSO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE THROUGH THESE TRANSFERS AND ENROLLMENT TRENDS ACROSS SOME OF OUR CENTRAL TEXAS AND PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN GOING BACK TO 2011, 2012, WE HAD OVER 2,000 STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY WERE TRANSFERRING OUT OF OUR DISTRICT. 
          YOU CAN ALSO SEE LEANDER THERE [INAUDIBLE] AND HAYS CISD. 
          OUR NUMBERS HAVE BEEN INCREASING YEAR AFTER YEAR AS YOU CAN ALSO SEE. 
          I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST JUMP REALLY HAPPENED DURING, I GUESS, THE COVID YEAR AND WE SAW THE BIGGEST JUMP FROM 4,098 TO 4,992. 
          AGAIN, THE TREND IS GOING UP. 
          I THINK THERE ARE MORE CHARTER SCHOOLS MOVING INTO THE AREA. 
          IN AUSTIN AND CENTRAL TEXAS, THERE ARE MORE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND SO THERE'S ALSO THERE'S MORE COMPETITION AND MORE CHOICES FOR PARENTS. 
          >> DR. AZAIEZ BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, THE DEFINITION OF A TRANSFER OUT IN THIS REPORT IS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE ROUND ROCK ISD FOOTPRINT, BUT IT'S GOING TO ANOTHER ENTITY IN WHICH THEIR STATE FUNDING IS FOLLOWING THEM. 
          THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CHILDREN WHO ARE HOMESCHOOLED AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE CHILDREN WHO ARE IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATE DOES NOT TRACK THOSE STUDENTS, SO THESE ARE STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY LEFT OUR DISTRICT TO GO TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO RUN A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR CHARTER SCHOOLS, 
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OR IN SOME CASES SOME VIRTUAL SCHOOLS. 
          THEY MAY SEE SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY GO INTO VIRTUAL SCHOOLS. 
          >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE FROM 2019 TO NOW, WE WERE AT ALMOST 51,000. 
          NOW WE'RE CLOSER TO 47,000, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD 4,000 STUDENTS APPEAR ON THIS TRANSFER REPORT. 
          THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE EITHER MOVED OUT OF OUR DISTRICT ENTIRELY, OR THEY ARE IN HOMESCHOOL OR THEY'RE GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE DISCREPANCY IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT ARE ON THIS TEA TRANSFER REPORT. 
          >> THAT'S REALLY GREAT, BUT IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS LIKE YOU SAID. 
          YES, IT COULD BE HOME-SCHOOLED, COULD BE PRIVATE SCHOOL, COULD BE MOVED COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE NOTICING AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS NOTICING IS THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE BEEN INCREASING, ESPECIALLY IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          IT COULD BE A SENSE WHERE SOME OF OUR FAMILIES ARE MOVING OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD, THE AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG THING FOR THEM, AND THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE. 
          ANOTHER THING ALSO WE'RE SEEING IS WE USE A DEMOGRAPHER TO ACTUALLY RUN SOME NUMBERS FOR US AND PROJECT NUMBERS. 
          WELL, WE ALSO SEEING LOWER BIRTH RATES IN OUR AREA AS WELL. 
          THAT COULD BE COMBINATION OF THINGS TOO, AS I SAID. 
          PART OF IT IS ALSO THE COST OF LIVING AND OWNING A HOME HERE. 
          WE'VE SEEN, I GUESS, FEWER MAYBE YOUNGER COUPLES WHO HAVE YOUNGER CHILDREN BECAUSE POSSIBLY CAN NOT AFFORD TO BE HERE. 
          MORE OF THOSE EMPTY NESTERS, MORE FOLKS WHO MOVED HERE 10-20 YEARS AGO WERE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOUSE AND THEY'RE SITTING AROUND. 
          THEIR KIDS ARE ALREADY MAYBE GROWN UP AND MOVED ON TO COLLEGE OR BEYOND COLLEGE. 
          I REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT THESE ARE NUMBERS AGAIN, THERE ARE AVAILABLE ON THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY WEBSITE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL JUST TO TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THINGS. 
          >> CAN I ASK YOU DR. AZAIEZ, COULD YOU GET US THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK THE THINGS THAT WE SAY FROM THIS DIAS REALLY SHOULD BE AS FACTUAL AS WE UNDERSTAND AND THAT WE HAVE DATA TO BACK IT UP BECAUSE I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES THAT ARE AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE BEDROOM HOME. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAD A LIKE AN ARTICLE I BELIEVE IT WAS AN IMPACT TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED OUT OF OUR HOMES THAT ACTUALLY HAD NO KIDS BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE ALL GROWN AND ACTUALLY KIDS WERE FILLING IN THOSE. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ELEMENTARIES LIKE FOREST CREEK THAT USED TO BE PROJECTED ACTUALLY DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT, THAT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. 
          SOME OF THE STUFF YOU'RE SAYING JUST DOESN'T ACTUALLY MESH WITH THAT. 
          IT DOESN'T CORRELATE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DATA BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST HELP US MAKE DECISIONS AND UNDERSTAND ENROLLMENT BETTER. 
          >> SURE. AS I SAID, THE [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> JUST IN OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT, LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THE INCREASES AT PALM SPRINGS OR JOLLY VILLE OR LIVE OAK. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER COUPLES WHOSE KIDS HAVE MOVED AND NO ONE HAS MOVED INTO THOSE HOMES. 
          GETTING DATA IS FINE, BUT DON'T JUST TAKE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A DISTRICT THAT'S 103 SQUARE MILES AND SAY THAT IT'S NOT CORRECT INFORMATION. 
          >> I COULD ACTUALLY GO GET THE ARTICLE THOUGH, YOU'RE STILL JUST GIVING OFF THE CUP. 
          THIS WASN'T LIKE A MERRY ARTICLE, ACTUALLY. 
          THE ARTICLE IS OUT THERE, YOU CAN GO GET IT. 
          IT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT IT. 
          THE DEMOGRAPHER ACTUALLY HAS TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY A DATA POINT. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE OFF-THE-CUFF. 
          >> SURE. 
          >> BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE DATA POINTS. 
          ARTICLES ARE FINE IF THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS ENROLLMENT ISSUE IN ROUND ROCK ISD AND NOT JUST MY THREE NEIGHBORS OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE ACROSS THE DISTRICT. 
          >> I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT. 
          AS I SAID, I KNOW DENTIST USES IT WHEN HE WORKS ON THE BUDGET. 
          I KNOW WE'RE NOT SEEING AN INCREASED BY TWO OR 3,000 STUDENTS, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          NOW, THE OTHER THING IS ALSO WITH THIS TREND IS LIKE YOU'VE SEEN IT'S ALSO ACROSS SEVERAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE NUMBERS EVEN FOR THE STATE. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A DENTIST WHERE YOU'RE IN A MEETING WITH THE DEXTEROUS CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, AND WHAT DID HE SAY EXACTLY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CHILDREN IN TEXAS? 
          >> IT WAS NOT A MEETING. IT WAS AN ARTICLE THAT HE PUT OUT THAT SAID THAT THE BIRTH RATES IN TEXAS ARE DECLINING AND WE WILL SEE A DROP IN ENROLLMENT IN THE STATE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          >> IS IT OKAY IF I JUMP IN A LITTLE FAST? THE TEA COMMISSIONER ACTUALLY SAID THAT IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE THAT SINCE 
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2011 AFTER THE RECESSION THAT BIRTH RATES ARE DECLINING AND THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO DECLINING ENROLLMENT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING PRE-COVID WITH THE BIRTH RATE DECLINING. 
          THEN ALSO PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND MOVING ELSEWHERE, MOVING FOR JOBS. 
          THAT'S DOCUMENTED. 
          MIKE MORAN HAS SAID THAT. 
          CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE DEFINITION OF A TRANSFER OUT? IS THIS STUDENTS WHO HAVE ATTENDED ROUND ROCK ISD AND HAVE CHOSEN TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? OR DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDES STUDENTS IN OUR FOOTPRINT WHO HAD NEVER BEEN IN OUR SCHOOLS AT ALL? 
          >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YES, THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO LIVE WITHIN ROUND ROCK ISD, BUT THEY'RE ATTENDING ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK. 
          BUT DEFINITELY, THESE STUDENTS ATTENDED OUR DISTRICT AT SOME POINT OR THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ATTENDING OUR DISTRICT AND DECIDED TO GO ELSEWHERE, BUT I'LL DOUBLE-CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU. 
          >> OKAY. SORRY. I THINK I REMEMBER FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION WHEN I WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, THAT DEFINITION INCLUDED STUDENTS WHO'VE NEVER ATTENDED, NOT NECESSARILY THEY CAME TO OUR SCHOOLS AND DIDN'T. 
          >> I THINK THIS IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I WANT TO DOUBLE-CHECK BEFORE I HAVE TO SAY YES, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY, I GUESS LEAVING OUR DISTRICT, BUT ALSO WANT TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE WITH OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          YOU CAN SEE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE 10.3, 11.1, 12.3 IN THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO ARE LEAVING OUR DISTRICT. 
          WHEREAS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A SMALLER RATE FOR LEANDER, BUT A LOT BIGGER RATE FOR PFLUGERVILLE AND ALSO HAYS CISD. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE WANTED TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN A TREND ACROSS THE STATE, AS I WAS SAYING. 
          THERE WAS THE QUESTION ALSO WHERE THEY'RE GOING. 
          WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME WHO GO ON TO OTHERS, LIKE AUSTIN ISD. 
          ESPECIALLY IN THE WEST SIDE OF OUR DISTRICT, THERE ARE SOME AUSTIN ISD SCHOOLS IN THERE, BUT THEN THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF CHARTER SCHOOLS LIKE BASIS TEXAS 530 STUDENTS ARE ATTENDING THERE. 
          YOU CAN SEE AN INSTRUCTION AND TYPE. 
          THESE ARE IN-PERSON, SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOVING OR GOING TO THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          THEN YOU HAVE SOME VIRTUAL. 
          WE HAVE HALLSVILLE ISD BECAUSE IT'S VIRTUAL. 
          SOME OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THERE. 
          THEN THERE'S ALSO THE LARGEST ONE, REALLY LIKE HARMONY. IT'S A BIG ONE. 
          IT'S AGAIN IN THE WEST SIDE OF OUR DISTRICT. 
          IDEA PUBLIC SCHOOL, WHICH IS NOT FAR AWAY FROM HERE. 
          THESE ARE CHARTER SCHOOLS OR OBVIOUSLY HAVE HUNDREDS OF OUR STUDENTS ATTENDING THEIR CAMPUSES. 
          THEN WE HAVE MERIDIAN WORLD SCHOOL LLC, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR DISTRICT, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 1,000 OF OUR STUDENTS THERE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS VIRTUAL. 
          THEY ARE HAVING OUR STUDENTS AND THEY ARE ATTENDING WITH THEM. 
          JUST AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER LIST OF SOME SCHOOLS OR CHARTER SCHOOLS. 
          THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS ENROLLMENT DATES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ENROLLMENTS? I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING. 
          ONE BIG THING WE DID THIS YEAR IS IN THE PAST OUR DISTRICT WHEN IT COMES TO REGISTRATION FOR A FULL DAY PRE-K, OUR DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER REASON DECIDED SHOULD ALWAYS WAIT UNTIL JULY, AUGUST TO ALLOW FOR STUDENTS TO ENROLL WITH US. 
          ONE THING WE'RE DOING DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR IS WE ACTUALLY ALREADY OPENED OUR ENROLLMENT IN APRIL 1ST TO MAY 19. 
          HUNDREDS OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED WITH US FOR OUR PRE-K PROGRAM. 
          ALSO, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING FOR OUR KINDERGARTENERS. 
          ANYWAY, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE TRIED TO CAPTURE OUR STUDENTS AND MAKE SURE THEY STAY WITH US. 
          WE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TOO LATE FOR THEM, BY THAT TIME, PROBABLY DECIDED TO GO WITH SOME OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR SOME CHARTER SCHOOLS. 
          AS YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, WE OPENED A FEW CAMPUSES TO OUTER DISTRICT STUDENTS. 
          WE LOOKED IF THEY HAVE SPACES, WE TALKED WITH PRINCIPALS. 
          WE HAD FEW SCHOOLS WHO WERE OPEN FOR OUT-OF-SCHOOL DISTRICT TRANSFER. 
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WE ONLY OPENED THE WINDOW FOR ABOUT 10 DAYS AND IT REALLY HAPPENED IN LATE JULY. 
          EVEN WITH THAT, WE HAD ALMOST 112 APPLICATIONS. 
          OBVIOUSLY, OUR PRINCIPALS LOOK AT THOSE APPLICATIONS, AND 84 OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT EXACT, BUT WE ESTIMATING THAT PROBABLY GENERATED SOMEWHERE AROUND $516,000 EXTRA MONEY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          THIS YEAR WHAT ARE WE DOING DIFFERENTLY IS WE OPENED OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT WINDOW A LOT EARLIER. 
          WE ALSO EXTENDED THAT OPEN WINDOW TO 32 DAYS. 
          ALSO, EVERYTHING IS DONE ELECTRONICALLY, OBVIOUSLY. 
          PARENTS CAN DO IT ONLINE. 
          ALSO, WE EXPANDED OUR OUTER DISTRICT OPTIONS. 
          AGAIN, JUST BASED ON AVIDITY, PRINCIPALS ALWAYS WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY HAVE SPACE OR NOT. 
          SO FAR I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT SO FAR WE HAVE [NOISE] OVER 300 ACTUALLY, 302 AS OF TODAY, OUT-OF-DISTRICT OPEN ENROLLMENT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THEY WILL GO THROUGH APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          OUR PRINCIPALS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE LAST SAY. 
          WE ALSO DO WANT TO RECAPTURE. 
          OUR RECAPTURE IS REALLY LOOKING AT STUDENTS WHO MAY BE LEFT OUR DISTRICT OR MAY BE THINKING ABOUT LEAVING OUR DISTRICT. 
          WE TRYING TO GET THEM TO STAY WITH US OR MAYBE BRING THEM BACK TO OUR DISTRICT. 
          SO FAR WE HAVE 119 CONFIRMED STUDENTS WHO ARE DECIDING TO COME BACK. 
          THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 150 TENTATIVE, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS RECAPTURE AT LEAST 200, 300 STUDENTS. 
          THESE STUDENTS LIVE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT BOUNDARY, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THEM BACK. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, THE PRE-K4 REGISTRATION, USUALLY WE DO IT IN THE SUMMER. 
          WE OPENED ALREADY THIS YEAR. 
          SO FAR WE HAVE ALMOST 600 STUDENTS ALREADY REGISTERED, WHICH ISN'T VERY MUCH EXCITING. 
          OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS COMPARED TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT. 
          HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL YIELD AN INCREASE IN OUR STUDENT ENROLLED IN OUR DISTRICT AND THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL YEAR. 
          THESE ARE SOME OF THE RECRUITMENT STRATEGIES WE'RE DOING ANYTHING FROM DIRECT MAIL, STREAMING, CANVAS, AND DOING SOME SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RECAPTURE OUR STUDENTS AND RECRUIT STUDENTS TO OUR DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT'S IT. I'M OPEN FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          JUST ONE LAST THING, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS TODAY, TODAY VERSUS THE SAME DATE LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY SEEING AN INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT BY ABOUT 80 STUDENTS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE 80 STUDENTS MORE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE TREND IS ACTUALLY TURNING AND ACTUALLY WE HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR ENROLLMENT COMING NEXT YEAR AS WELL. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE PLAN. WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS WELL. 
          >> TRUSTEES, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS TRUSTEE ZARATE AND MARKUM WERE NOT HERE WHEN WE DID THE INTERVIEW PROCESS BUT THE REASON THAT WE EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS REPORT IS BECAUSE DR. AZAIEZ BROUGHT THIS TO OUR DISTRICT IN HIS INTERVIEW. 
          THIS REPORT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2011, 12 SCHOOL YEAR, AND WE WERE NEVER AWARE OF IT UNTIL SPRING OF 2021 DURING HIS INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SAYING, HE SAID, I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF WHERE THESE STUDENTS ARE AND NOT IN OUR DISTRICT AND IT'S BEEN A FOCUS OF HIS FROM WHEN WE STARTED INTERVIEWING HIM. 
          FIRST, I WILL START WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAD ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THIS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS CORRECT. 
          WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SLIDE 2, A STUDENT DOESN'T FALL OFF THIS UNTIL THEY WOULD THEORETICALLY BE IN THE 12TH GRADE, THEY WOULD'VE GRADUATED. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> YEAH. 
          >> IS THAT PART OF THE REASON THESE NUMBERS ARE CUMULATIVE YEAR OVER YEAR? DOES THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          >> YEAH. I THINK YES. 
          I THINK THE NUMBER OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE HAVE FEWER FROM ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER LIKE FROM, LET'S SAY, 2019-2020 SCHOOL YEAR TO 2021, 
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WE LOST ABOUT 900 STUDENTS. 
          THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE MIDDLE OF THE COVID SO WE HAVE 900 KIDS WHO ARE AT SOME POINT WITH US THEN THEY ARE NOT WITH US ANYMORE OR THEY SUPPOSED TO ATTEND WITH US OR ENROLL WITH US BUT THEY DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, WHETHER A VIRTUAL OR SOME OTHER PLACE OBVIOUSLY. 
          >> TO CLARIFY, IF SOMEONE ENTERED KINDERGARTEN IN THE 2013, '14 SCHOOL YEAR THEY WOULD COUNT IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE YEARS TO UP-TO-DATE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GRADUATED YET? 
          >> THAT'S CORRECT. 
          >> SO EVEN IF THEY NEVER ENTERED ROUND ROCK ISD AND DECIDED TO GO TO A CHARTER SCHOOL IN 2013 AND '14, THAT CHILD SHOWS UP AS ONE OF THESE COUNTS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR SO THE CHALLENGE OF DECREASING THIS IS TO GET A CHILD TO LEAVE A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT THEY ENTERED IN KINDERGARTEN AND COME BACK TO US IN NINTH GRADE, OR COME TO US FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN COME BACK TO US, THEY'VE NEVER ACTUALLY BEEN ENROLLED IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY STUDENTS. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COME AND ATTEND SCHOOL WITH US AND REMAIN WITH US UNTIL THEY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RECAPTURE THOSE KIDS IF THEY LEFT OUR DISTRICT FOR EVERY SEASON OR IF THEY DECIDE TO GO SOME OTHER PLACE. 
          BUT ALSO WE CANNOT LOSE FOCUS ON THE OTHER ALMOST 47,000 KIDS WHO ARE STAYING WITH US. 
          AS LONG AS WE DO A GREAT JOB WITH THEM, THEY FEEL WELCOME AND CARED FOR AND LEARNING DAY AFTER DAY, WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH EVERYONE, WITH THE PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE TEACHERS AND STAFF, THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE WON'T BE LOSING MORE STUDENTS AND THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE OUR BEST AMBASSADORS AND THEIR PARENTS SO THEY CAN BRING MORE STUDENTS TO OUR DISTRICT. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND THEN DIDN'T WE DO A SURVEY ABOUT ENROLLMENT AT SOME POINT? I'M LOOKING AT MY EMAIL BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE DID RECEIVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHY PEOPLE WEREN'T ENROLLED OR WERE DISENROLLED. 
          >> I THINK WE DID ONE LAST YEAR. 
          I NEED TO GO BACK AND CHECK. 
          I THINK THAT [OVERLAPPING] WAS DONE MAYBE THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, I THINK. [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> LESS THAN A 20% RESPONSE RATE, [OVERLAPPING] I BELIEVE. 
          >> BUT YEAH, WE CAN GO BACK AND CHECK ON THAT, TRUSTEE HARRISON. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          >> WHEN WERE THESE SLIDES POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE BOARD TO SEE? 
          >> WE POSTED THIS THIS AFTERNOON, BUT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON THIS LATEST SLIDES, YES. 
          >> I THINK OUR COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE BENEFITED FROM SEEING THIS SOONER. 
          THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          ON SLIDE 3, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, I WASN'T CONSIDERING TALKING ABOUT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          IT'S LIKE WHEN MY KIDS COMPLAINED TO ME THAT THE NEIGHBOR KID GETS TO DO THIS AND I SAY, WELL, THE NEIGHBOR KID'S NOT MY KID SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT RULES HERE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SLIDE HERE, WHY WAS LEANDER PFLUGERVILLE AND HAYS SELECTED? 
          >> LEANDER PFLUGERVILLE, THEY ARE OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. 
          HAYS CISD IS ONE OF THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS SO THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED HAYS. 
          AUSTIN, IT'S A LARGER DISTRICT OBVIOUSLY, BUT HAYS BESIDES LEANDER AND AUSTIN, IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE LARGEST ONE CLOSER TO OUR SIZE. 
          >> WELL, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF HAVING MAYBE HAVE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE CLOSE UP HUDDLE? WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          WHAT IS THAT VALUE? 
          >> THIS IS, AS I SAID, TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A SIMILAR TREND ACROSS ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR SEVERAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          WE COULD IMPOSSIBLY PUT EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO SELECT FEW SO WE CAN SHOW THAT THERE IS SIMILAR TREND THAT THERE'S MORE TRANSFER OUT ACROSS SEVERAL SCHOOL DISTRICT IN HERE IN TEXAS, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          >> YOU BROUGHT UP A SIMILAR TREND. 
          LEANDER OBVIOUSLY IS VERY CLOSE TO US AND HAS 41,543 STUDENTS SO PRETTY SIMILAR STUDENT POPULATION. 
          PFLUGERVILLE, I'M PULLING UP A COMPARISON REPORT ON TEA. 
          THERE'S NO METRIC THAT WOULD SAY THAT PFLUGERVILLE WOULD BE A COMPARISON DISTRICT. 
          HAYS JUST DOESN'T COME TO MIND WHEN I THINK ABOUT 
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GEOGRAPHIC OR A SUBURBAN DISTRICT LIKE OURS. 
          OF THOSE THREE THAT ARE UP THERE I THINK LEANDER IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME AND I DON T THINK THAT A RATE THAT IS 50% OF OUR RATE IS PROOF OF SIMILARITY. 
          BUT SINCE THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS UP THERE, I WILL SAY I HAD 21 MINUTES TO PREPARE FOR THIS AFTER SEEING THE SLIDES UNTIL I HAD TO LEAVE TO COME TO THIS MEETING AND I DID SOME RESEARCH AND YOU'VE GOT SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS HERE, I'VE ALSO GOT SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND I ACTUALLY LOOKED UP 14 AND I DON'T MIND TAKING A PICTURE OF THIS. 
          DR. ROSA I'LL MAYBE SENDING IT TO YOU IN PATTY IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE, IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT I JUST DREW UP. 
          THIS IS ALL PUBLIC ON THE TEA WEBSITE, AND I LOOKED UP SOME DISTRICTS THAT TO ME MAKES SENSE AS A COMPARABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR IN SIZE, AND SUBURBAN AND LOCATED IN TEXAS. 
          THEY RANGE IN STUDENT POPULATIONS STARTING AT 34,000 AND GOING UP ALL THE WAY TO 116,000. 
          I'VE GOT KELLER, CLEAR CREEK, RICHARDSON, LEANDER, HUMBLE, PLANO, GARLAND, KLEIN, FRISCO, CONROY, KATIE, CIPHER, AND SPRING BRANCH, AND I JUST JOTTED THESE DOWN. 
          I JOTTED DOWN STUDENTS ENROLLED AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE OPTED OUT PER THE STUDENT TRANSFER REPORT, AND ROUND ROCK ISD AT 12.4% OF STUDENTS OPTED OUT IS BY FAR THE HIGHEST OF ALL OF THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          THE LOWEST WOULD BE SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS ARE AT 2 AND 3%, AND THEN ASIDE FROM ROUND ROCK ISD THE HIGHEST IS 8%. 
          THERE'S A FOUR-AND-A-HALF POINT DELTA. 
          TO ME, ROUND ROCK ISD AND THERE'S 1,200 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN TEXAS IN 21 MINUTES I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT ALL 1,200. 
          BUT TO ME WE'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT AND UNIQUE PROBLEM HERE AND I GUESS WHERE I'D LIKE TO START IS, I'D LIKE TO START WITH DATA. 
          THAT'S THE DATA. IS THERE CONSENSUS AMONG MY COLLEAGUES THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS GOING ON IN ROUND ROCK ISD? WHERE DO WE START WITH THIS CONVERSATION? BECAUSE IF WE JUST START FROM WELL, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, EVERYTHING'S NORMAL, THE BIRTH RATES ARE DECLINING AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S JUST IS WHAT IT IS AND WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. 
          OR CAN I GET AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT SOMETHING UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT IS HAPPENING HERE? 
          >> I'M NOT GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD BE COMPARING AND THEN YOU WANT US TO COMPARE. 
          I GUESS, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A CONVERSATION OF YOU PUT ONE OF THIS ON THE AGENDA. 
          DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE THAT YOU THINK THE DISTRICT COULD BE DOING OR IS THIS JUST A COMPLAIN? 
          >> I THINK THAT OUR JOB AS ELECTED TRUSTEES IS TO SOLVE HARD PROBLEMS. 
          >> YOU [OVERLAPPING] BROUGHT A SUGGESTION THAT WHY IT'S ALL THERE. 
          >> YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE, SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE. 
          BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT WE DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE. 
          >> I'M SAYING THAT YOU CAN CLAIM THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU CAN PULL OUT THIS ONE GRAPH AND YOU CAN SAY, I THINK SOMETHING TERRIBLE IS GOING ON HERE, THAT'S NOT DATA TO ME. 
          YOU'RE JUST TAKING THIS EXACT SAME TYPE OF CHART AND SAY, NO, I HAVE ANOTHER CHART AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOWS SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TRUE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOWS ANYTHING AND I'M NOT GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOUR STATEMENT JUST OUT OF THE BLUE IS SOMEHOW INDICATIVE OF SOMETHING GOING ON STRANGE HERE IN ROUND ROCK ISD, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION AND IT WOULD BE MORE PRODUCTIVE IF WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ENROLLMENT TRENDS, WHAT CAN WE DO? 
          >> I'D LOVE TO GET THERE BUT IF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE DONE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FRUITFUL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU'VE GOT A FLAT TIRE AND I THINK THE TIRE IS FLAT AND YOU DON'T THINK IT'S FLAT, I MEAN, WHAT DO WE DO? IS THERE ANY POINT IN CHANGING THE TIRE, 
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AND HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND ON THAT? 
          >> BUT THAT'S A DATA POINT THAT'S VERY EASILY CONFIRMED BY TWO PEOPLE LOOKING AT A FLAT TIRE. 
          >> [OVERLAPPING] ROUND ROCK ISD THEIR RATE OF OPT OUT SO THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS 50% OF OURS. IT'S HALF. 
          >> GREAT. WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT'S DIFFERENT? 
          >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          >> YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO OFFER AS TO WHAT LEANDER IS DOING BETTER, YOU JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU THINK THEY'RE DOING BETTER? 
          >> I ALSO FEEL IT'S BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET OUR ENROLLMENT RATE UP AND WE'D BEEN BROUGHT STRATEGIES AT MULTIPLE MEETINGS OF HOW OUR DISTRICT IS TRYING TO IMPROVE ON THAT AND I'M NOT SAYING MORE CAN'T BE DONE, BUT I THINK WHAT TRUSTEE WEAVER IS TRYING TO SAY AND I AGREE, IS THAT I THINK THAT EVERYONE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE OUR ENROLLMENT RATES TO GO UP SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD THAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH OR THOUGHT OF BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP AT SEVERAL MEETINGS EVEN WHEN I WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER PRIOR TO ELECTION. 
          BUT IT'S JUST BRINGING UP THAT SOMETHING MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT NEVER A SOLUTION OF HOW WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          AND SO I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THAT SOLUTION IS. 
          >> I THINK THAT THE SOLUTION LIES IN OUR CORE MISSION. 
          WHY DO OUR SCHOOLS EXIST? WHY IS ENROLLMENT DECLINING? I'LL TELL YOU I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I'VE GOT THE SILVER BULLET ANSWER BUT I'VE GOT LOTS OF ANECDOTAL STORIES. 
          THE LIST OF SCHOOLS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO, SOME OF THEM I WAS NOT SURPRISED BY, SOME OF THEM I AM SURPRISED BY, IDEA PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND I SAY THIS AS A PARENT EVERY DAY OF ALL FIVE OF MY CHILDREN'S LIVES HAS BEEN SPENT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          I MOVED TO ROUND ROCK ISD FOR THE SCHOOLS 12 YEARS AGO. 
          MY CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT THE CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT ATTEND OUR SCHOOLS. 
          I THINK OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM THAT, I THINK OUR CHILDREN BENEFIT FROM THAT, I THINK EVERYBODY BENEFITS FROM THAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. 
          IDEA PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          THIS IS ON SLIDE 5. 
          SAYS THERE ARE 706 ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THAT SCHOOL. 
          I HAVE MET PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN ATTEND THOSE SCHOOLS. 
          MY CHILDREN DON'T ATTEND THOSE SCHOOLS, ALL I CAN DO IS SHARE ANECDOTAL STORIES FROM OTHERS. 
          >> [OVERLAPPING] I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE TRUSTEE BOND SAID WE CAN'T USE ANECDOTAL STORIES SHE WANTS DATA OR IF YOU'VE GOT AN ARTICLE THAT WOULD WORK. 
          >> FRANKLY, I DON'T TRUST YOUR DATA BECAUSE YOU COMPARED SAN ANTONIO ISD TO ROUND ROCK ISD EARLIER AND IT WAS ERRONEOUS. 
          >> I'M GOING TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER ON DECORUM TO THE CHAIR FOR THAT COMMENT. 
          >> I WITHDRAW MY COMMENT. 
          >> THESE ARE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. 
          EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION OR WE AREN'T. 
          EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATION. 
          ADULTS HAVE TO HAVE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME WHEN REAL PROBLEMS AND REAL CHALLENGES CONFRONT THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEIR EMPLOYERS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO. 
          >> IF I MAY. I DO AGREE. 
          >> I HAVE NOT DECIDED. 
          >> IT'S FINE. 
          >> BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK FOR THE FLOOR, I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO YOU. 
          >> MY I HAVE THE FLOOR? WOULD YOU MIND THAT? 
          >> I ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL RIGHTS ON THAT ARE BEFORE YOURS, TRUSTEES THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          >> I APOLOGIZE. I'LL WAIT. 
          >> YEAH. 
          >> I'M HAPPY TO DEFER TO TRUSTEE ZARATE, BUT AMY'S ASKING ME TO COME UP WITH ALL THE SOLUTIONS. 
          I'M ONE TRUSTEE. 
          I'M NOT THE STAFF. 
          WHAT I HEAR OVER AND OVER IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHAT I HEAR AT THE CAPITOL IS THAT THERE IS A DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE LACK OF FOCUS ON THE CORE MISSION OF EDUCATING CHILDREN FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER GOING ON IN ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          THERE IS A FRUSTRATION THAT WE HAVE LOST FOCUS ON THAT. 
          NOW, ACTUALLY FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT REFLECTED IN MY OWN CHILDREN'S EXPERIENCE BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO HAVE TOLD ME THAT AND PEOPLE ARE VOTING WITH THEIR FEET. 
          DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE ARE VOTES WITH FEET? 
          >>YES. 
          >> PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS SAID THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS, THAT'S WHY YOU ASKED. 
          BUT IF THE STAFF HAS DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT, WE HAD A WHOLE PRESENTATION ON CCMR AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND BRING IN ALL OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES WITH ACC AND GETTING 
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YOUR BACHELOR'S AT THE CONFERENCE AND SO MANY THINGS. 
          YES, WE CAN LOOK AT THESE, WE CAN POINT AT THESE, WE CAN SAY, OH, WE LOST 900 STUDENTS. 
          YOU COULD SAY THAT 100 MILLION TIMES. 
          IT'S NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE. 
          IT IS NOW 10:23, HOW LONG ARE WE JUST GOING TO KEEP POUNDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, PEOPLE WALKING AWAY, VOTING, I'M JUST ASKING FOR US TO BE PRODUCTIVE IN THIS TIME. 
          I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH ALL THE SOLUTIONS, BUT YOU'VE ASKED FOR THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA SO IF YOU COULD JUST MAKE EVEN ONE SUGGESTION OF A POSITIVE SUGGESTION OF SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD DO THAT YOU KNOW OF ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT'S DOING THAT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO. 
          >> MAY I SAY I MISSED SOMETHING, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT FROM AN ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT BECAUSE I THINK THE DEMONSTRATION WAS BROUGHT IN THERE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY, AND I THINK OUR PRESIDENT, HE HAS SAID IT EARLIER. 
          WHEN I CAME IN IN 2021, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT IS THIS. 
          BACK IN 2021 WHEN I CAME TO INTERVIEW, ROUND ROCK ISD HAD ALMOST 5,000 KIDS WHO ARE SITTING NOT IN ROUND ROCK ISD AND I'M THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY CAME AND TALK ABOUT IT AND WE STARTED DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHEN I GOT HERE. 
          AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE REALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          THEY WERE THOUSANDS OF KIDS ALREADY OUT OF ROUND ROCK ISD AND THE ADMINISTRATION, WHOEVER I GUESS AT THAT TIME, THERE WASN'T THE FOCUS. 
          WELL, WE MADE IT A FOCUS SINCE LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS EVEN MORE FOCUSED BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF ALL OUR TRUSTEES AND CURRENT TRUSTEE WESTON. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF HOW COMMUNITY ON PARENTS AND WE WANT TO TAKE OUR DISTRICT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND THAT'S THE WORK THAT TRUSTEE WEIR WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS EVEN BETTER AND BETTER EVERY DAY FOR OUR STUDENTS. 
          BUT REALLY STARTS ALSO WITH US HERE AND ALSO SHOWING THAT WE CARE ABOUT ALL OUR STUDENTS, WE CARE ABOUT ALL OUR STAFF, AND THAT WE PROVIDING ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES FOR THEM. 
          WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET. 
          WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON THIS. 
          THE SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO ENROLLMENT. 
          IF WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO COME BACK AND STAY WITH US, WE ALSO HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK ON THIS TOGETHER. 
          >> THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PERSONALITY, DR. AZAIEZ, THIS IS ABOUT THERE IS A PROBLEM AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR JOB IS TO SOLVE HARD PROBLEMS, TO CONFRONT HARD PROBLEMS AND WORK VERY HARD TO SOLVE THEM. 
          WHAT I HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS TO ME SOUNDED LIKE EXCUSES. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DECLINING BIRTH RATES. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN HAVE DECLINING BIRTH RATES AND HAVE AN ACCELERATION IN THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN BORN. 
          THEY ARE HERE AND MORE AND MORE OF THEM ARE OPTING OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF ONE PARTICULAR PERSON BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE DECLINING BIRTH RATES AND MORE STUDENTS WHO ARE OPTING OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A RELUCTANCE TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM, AND I'LL TELL YOU IN THE MILITARY, WE LEARNED THAT A FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD, AND IN MY VIEW, IT STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP. 
          I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE IS A MENTALITY THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE ELECTED, THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE AND PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO. WELL, IT'S GREAT. 
          YOU GOT RE-ELECTED, BUT THE CONFIDENCE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DECLINING. 
          NOW YOU GET YOUR RE-ELECTION YOU'RE CONFRONTED WITH A BUDGET CRISIS AND THE LARGEST DRIVER OF THE BUDGET IS ENROLLMENT. 
          I'VE GOT MY OFFSET HERE AT THE DIAS. 
          TWO YEARS AGO I SAT HERE AND I SAID MY NEIGHBORS ARE LEAVING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO LIBERTY HILL, THEY'RE GOING TO DRIPPING SPRINGS. 
          I SAID IT TWO YEARS AGO AND I WAS LIKE, THERE SHE GOES AGAIN. 
          WELL, NOW I'VE GOT A NEIGHBOR AROUND THE CORNER, NOW THEY'RE LEAVING, FOUR KIDS. 
          THIS TIME, RATHER THAN JUST SAYING GOODBYE, I SAID, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING? SHE SAID, DANIELLE, I'M NOT PUTTING MY KIDS IN YOUR HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID TO ME. 
          THESE ARE GOING TO BE HARD CONVERSATIONS. 
          THESE ARE THE HIGH SCHOOL MY KIDS GREW UP IN. 
          I SENT MY KIDS TO THESE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          WHY DID THESE FAMILIES NOT WANT TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO OUR SCHOOLS? WHY ARE THEY GOING TO IDEA? THE PARENTS FROM IDEA THAT I'VE JUST MET QUITE HONESTLY OUT BLOCK WALKING, WHEN THEY FOUND OUT WHO I'M ON THE BOARD AT ROUND ROCK ISD, THEY'RE LIKE, GET OFF MY LAWN. 
          YOUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT FOCUSED ON EDUCATING MY KIDS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND MY CHILDREN'S ONLY HOPE IS TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION. 
          IT'S THEIR ONLY TICKET OUT OF THIS PLACE AND YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FOCUSED ON OTHER THINGS. 
          I THINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED THINGS. 
          THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT WITH THIS BOARD IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONFRONT THE REALITY, THEN WHAT THE LEADERSHIP APPROACH IS GOING TO BE, AND DR. AZAIEZ THIS IS REALLY NOT ABOUT YOU, 
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THIS IS NOT THE BOARD, LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          WE'RE EITHER IN THE MINDSET THAT WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE DECLINE, OR WE'RE GOING TO REVERSE THE DEVASTATING TREND. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE OUR TWO LEADERSHIP STRATEGIES AT THIS POINT. 
          MANAGE THE DECLINE AND MAKE EXCUSES TO SOME DEGREE WILLING OR THERE'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. 
          YOU GOT TO HAVE FOUNDERS. 
          ACCORDING TO THE DEMOGRAPHER REPORT ON THE ROUND ROCK ISD WEBSITE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AS FOUNDERS ACADEMY IS, I DON'T IF ITS A CHARTER SCHOOL OR A PRIVATE SCHOOL, I'VE NEVER LOOKED INTO THOSE SCHOOLS. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE OPENING SOON ON THE EAST SIDE OF ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          HOW MANY STUDENTS IS THAT GOING TO TAKE? MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO REVERSE A DEVASTATING TREND LINE THAT DRIVES, NOT ONLY OUR BUDGET, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPACTS KIDS. I REALLY DO. 
          >> HOW? WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? 
          >> I CAN SAY IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MY ANSWERS WILL BE VERY POPULARLY VALUED. 
          >> I THINK THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THESE ARE HARD CONVERSATIONS. 
          >> YEAH, I THINK THAT THIS REQUIRES SOME SELF-REFLECTION. 
          I DO THINK THAT THE NOVEMBER ELECTION AND THE OVERWHELMING VICTORY IS 0.2. 
          WHAT YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ARE NOT WORKING, AND I HAVE MY OWN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE ROUND ROCK ISD AND WANT TO BE HERE AND WANT TO KEEP THEIR KIDS HERE. 
          BUT THEIR KIDS ARE NOT SAFE AND THEIR KIDS DO NOT FEEL WELCOME. 
          THEY AS ADULTS DO NOT FEEL WELCOME ON OUR CAMPUSES AND OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS. 
          THERE'S A HESITANT TO DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE BRING THINGS LIKE THIS UP, IT'S POLITICALLY MOTIVATED OR YOU'RE BULLYING ME, OR THERE'S ACCUSATIONS LOGGED. 
          I JUST REALLY THINK SOME REALLY CRITICAL SELF-REFLECTION WOULD BE VALUABLE HERE AND I'M NOT EVEN TRYING TO BE MEAN. 
          WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE BUT MY PRETTY BROAD ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME TO ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          I THINK THAT PART OF IT IS A FUNCTION OF THIS BOARD AND I THINK THERE'S SOME SPECIFICITY THAT QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE WILLING TO HEAR. 
          THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND THIS IS EXPERIENCE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR BACK-TO-SCHOOL BASH, WE DON'T DISCRIMINATE THE DEAF SCHOOL BASH. 
          ANYONE CAN COME OUT TO THE BACK-TO-SCHOOL BASH, GET THEIR LITTLE MANICURES DONE, YOU HAD WHOLE FAMILIES GETTING MANICURES AND GETTING SCHOOL SUPPLIES. 
          OVERWHELMINGLY, PEOPLE OF COLOR WERE CHOOSING NOT TO COME TO OUR SCHOOLS. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY UNPOPULAR REALITY THAT WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT WE'RE SAYING IT'S SEL OR CRT AND THAT'S THE ANSWER THAT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU MAY BE PREPARED FOR BUT IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND VERY APPARENT TO ME AND MAYBE TO OTHERS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S NOT A GOOD OPTION BECAUSE PEOPLE LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS. THEY DO. 
          I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WITH THREE, FOUR, FIVE CHILDREN THAT WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO GO TO ROUND ROCK ISD. 
          CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE THE NUCLEAR OPTION. 
          >> I THINK THIS IS GOOD DIALOGUE. 
          >> IF THERE'S DANGER WITH THE ADULTS, THEY'RE SEEING DANGER WITH THE CHILDREN AS WELL. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A RELUCTANCE TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WEAPONIZED ON THIS DIAS AND I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR ANYONE ELSE'S TRUTH. 
          THAT'S NOT ME BEING COMBATIVE OR UGLY, THAT'S JUST WHY I'VE BEEN HESITANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE REGARDED AS BEING COMBATIVE WHEN I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE TRUTH OF A GREAT MANY PEOPLE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? I WISH WE COULD PULL MORE EXTENSIVE DATA BECAUSE I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. 
          WE HAVE HATEFUL THINGS HAPPENING ON CAMPUSES. 
          WE HAVE KIDS DESTROYING CAMPUSES, WE HAVE KIDS PLAYING NAZI SALUTES AT CAMPUSES. 
          HOW SAFE DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL IF YOU'RE JEWISH? WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THESE THINGS. 
          >> WE HAVE CITIZENS STANDING OUTSIDE OF OUR CAMPUSES SAYING THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT LGBTQ KIDS BELONG IN THIS WORLD. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY. 
          >> BUT I'M HESITANT TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY WILL JUST BE REGARDED AS POLITICAL AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO EDUCATION. 
          IF YOU DON'T FEEL SAFE, IT'S HARD TO LEARN AND I THINK THAT'S A REALITY. YOU KNOW WHAT? I WELCOME PEOPLE TO SHARE WITH US WHY YOU HAVEN'T RETURNED TO OUR CAMPUSES. 
          PLEASE, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS MEETING, LET US KNOW. 
          GIVE US SOME DIRECTION BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SURMISING. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE CLOSE TO YOU AND PEOPLE THAT YOU WALK WITH. 
          WE HAVE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES AND I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO DIALOGUE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF OUR TRUTH IS VALUED. 
          >> WELL, ALL I CAN DO IS ASK TO TALK ABOUT IT AND I'LL SAY YOU STARTED, 
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TIFFANY, BY SAYING, PEOPLE LIKE ME. 
          CAN YOU DEFINE THAT BECAUSE I JUST DON'T NEED THAT. 
          >> CLEARLY, PEOPLE OF COLOR. 
          >> YOU SAID, PEOPLE LIKE YOU. 
          >> PEOPLE LIKE ME. 
          >> YOU SAID TO ME, YOU SAID PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS. 
          >> I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR IT BECAUSE WHEN I BRING UP THE REALITIES OF RACE AND RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA, THINGS THAT ARE LITERALLY KILLING OUR KIDS, SUICIDE, THAT'S REGARDED AS POLITICAL, CRT. 
          I DON'T REALLY THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE THE FULL ENROLLMENT CONVERSATION. 
          >> NO, ACTUALLY, I DO AND I'M PREPARED FOR IT AND AMY IS ASKING ME FOR SOLUTIONS. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I HAVE THE SILVER BULLET SOLUTIONS, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT WE DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A DIVERGENT PERSPECTIVE FROM AMY BECAUSE AMY SAID WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, IS ENTIRELY NORMAL, NOT UNUSUAL. 
          >> I SAID I WASN'T WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR INTERPRETATION OF YOUR DATA POINTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I SAID I WASN'T WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE. 
          WE'VE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT OUR ENROLLMENT IS DOWN AND I DON'T THINK THAT I'VE EVER SAID THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. 
          I JUST SAID I WAS NOT WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR CONCLUSIONS FROM YOUR DATA POINTS. 
          >> WHAT IS MY CONCLUSIONS? ALL I DID WAS OFFER DATA POINTS. 
          I TOLD YOU I'VE GOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THESE ARE 34,000-116,000 STUDENT ENROLLMENT, THEY'RE ALL SUBURBAN IN TEXAS AND THEY'RE ALL BETWEEN TWO PERCENT AND EIGHT PERCENT OF THEIR STUDENT BODY THAT HAS OPTED OUT OF THEIR SCHOOLS WHILE WE'RE SITTING AT 12.4 PERCENT. 
          THIS IS A BUDGET DRIVER AND I COULD TALK ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS BUT THAT'S SO OBVIOUS. 
          BUT REALLY, WHEN I MOVED HERE, THIS WAS A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT PEOPLE WANTED THEIR KIDS TO GO TO. 
          THEY WOULD PAY A PREMIUM FOR HOUSING SO THEIR CHILDREN COULD GO HERE, THEY MAKE SACRIFICES IN THEIR WORK COMMUTE SO THAT THEIR CHILDREN COULD GO HERE, AND NOW THAT HAS CHANGED. 
          IT'S CHANGED AND THE DATA SHOWS THAT WE ARE AN OUTLIER. 
          FOR ME IT STARTS WITH, CAN WE EVEN GET TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM? I WOULD SAY THE MOST CONSISTENT THING THAT I HEAR IS THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT FOCUSED ON OUR CORE MISSION AS THE BIGGEST DRIVER. 
          NOW, TIFFANY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS PEOPLE LEAVE BECAUSE OF RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA? 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE'RE VERY OBVIOUSLY TALKING TO VERY DIFFERENT POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE. 
          >> WE HAVE A DIVERSE COMMUNITY. 
          >> RIGHT. IT'S VERY RARE THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION. 
          I DON'T THINK WE AGREE ON WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T THINK WE WILL AGREE ON WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE SOLVED IN NOVEMBER OF 2024. 
          I DON'T MEAN THAT WITH ANY MALICE. 
          >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 
          >> I DON'T MEAN THAT WITH ANY MALICE IN MY HEART, IT'S JUST THAT I GENUINELY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO CONFRONT SOME OF THE REALLY TOUGH THINGS IN OUR DISTRICT THAT MAKE PEOPLE NOT WANT TO COME HERE. 
          >> I DO. 
          >> I FRANKLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE REALLY WILLING TO CONFRONT THAT TO BE HONEST AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE CONVERSATION WOULD BE UNPRODUCTIVE AND HARMFUL. 
          I'M GRATEFUL TO OUR ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE TAKING ACTIONABLE STEPS TOWARDS BRINGING OUR STUDENTS BACK, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF SELF-REFLECTION ON THE PART OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE MOST SELF-REFLECTION ON THIS ISSUE. 
          >> WELL, TIFFANY, IF I WAS IN THE MAJORITY AND NOT ON THE TWO AND ALMOST EVERY FIVE TO VOTE ON THIS BOARD, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE STANDING TO SAY SOME OF THAT STUFF BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT I AM NOT DRIVING THE AGENDA AND I AM NOT DRIVING THE DECISIONS ON THIS BOARD. IT IS NOT ME. 
          >> YOU ARE DISRUPTIVE. 
          >> IT'S YOU. 
          >> YOU GRANDSTAND. 
          >> YOU GRANDSTAND. 
          >> YOU TAKE UP TIME AND ACCUSE THE STAFF AND TRY TO ENGENDER DOUBT AND ILL WILL AND FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I'M LITERALLY TRYING MY BEST, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, I DO NOT THINK THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THE REAL CONVERSATION THAT I REALLY TRULY FEEL HAVING GROWN UP IN THIS DISTRICT, 
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HAVING GONE TO SCHOOL IN THIS DISTRICT, HAVING TAUGHT IN THIS DISTRICT, NOW, HAVING BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF THIS DISTRICT, I DO NOT THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE THE REAL CONVERSATION OR TAKE REAL ACTION. 
          I THINK YOU WANT TO GO TO THE CAPITAL AND ADVOCATE FOR VOUCHERS. 
          I DON'T THINK THE INVESTMENT FROM THE TWO OF YOU IS HERE IN PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND WHAT MAKES ALL FAMILIES FEEL SAFE AND WELCOME HERE. 
          REALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA OF WHO'S LEAVING AND REACHING OUT AND ASKING THESE PEOPLE WHY THEY'RE LEAVING. 
          I'M SURE THERE'S A MYRIAD OF REASONS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU FROM THAT EVENT WHERE WE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WAS AT A CHARTER SCHOOL WAS A PERSON OF COLOR. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          >> I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          >> IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, THEN LET'S LOOK AT IT. 
          THEN ALSO LET'S ASK PEOPLE, AND LET'S BE WILLING TO HEAR THE REFLECTION AND EXPERIENCE. 
          >> I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU'RE RESORTING TO PERSONAL ATTACKS. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2024 ELECTION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL. 
          TIFFANY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE WAS A REFUSAL TO ALLOW DISAGREEMENT. 
          IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WEAPONIZING, YOU WERE THE ONES PAYING LAWYERS. 
          YOU THREE WERE THE ONES PAYING LAWYERS TO TARGET AND ATTACK. 
          IF YOU THOUGHT I WASN'T GOING TO DEFEND MYSELF, [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> I'M SORRY. 
          >> WE REALLY WERE NOT POSTED FOR THAT. 
          >> WE'RE ALSO NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION, WHICH TIFFANY DID. 
          >> YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT IT UP DANIELLE, AND YOU ALSO ASKED. 
          YOU ASKED YOUR COLLEAGUES, YOU SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ISSUE IS? WE'RE QUIET BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> NO, I SAID DO WE AGREE THERE'S AN ISSUE. 
          >> WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE SO UNWILLING TO HEAR, YOU ARE SO LITIGIOUS. 
          I DO THINK THIS DISCUSSION IS A WASTE OF TIME. 
          I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU'RE REALLY WILLING TO REFLECT AND CONFRONT. 
          I DO THINK OUR ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THINGS ABOUT IT. 
          I DO THINK IF WE PUT UP THAT SLIDE, WE CAN SEE THE BIGGEST JUMP HAPPENED IN 2020, 2021. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE CLOSING THAT GAP, BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS DON'T FALL OFF. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK, IN MY HEART AND I SIT UP HERE QUIET SOMETIMES BECAUSE WHEN THINGS ARE SAID OF, I BELIEVE EVERYONE UP HERE CARES ABOUT ALL CHILDREN. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE ACTION SOMETIMES. 
          BUT THOSE ARE HARD CONVERSATIONS, AND WHEN THAT TRUTH OR EXPERIENCE IS BROUGHT UP, WE'RE ATTACKING. 
          YOU ASKED, SO I'M TELLING YOU. 
          >> I THINK THE RELUCTANCE ON YOUR PART TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IS BECAUSE THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IT WILL REFLECT POORLY ON THE MAJORITY THAT'S GETTING EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY YOUR MIND WORKS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY MY MIND WORKS. 
          I DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT US AS THE MAJORITY. 
          I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT FOR CHILDREN. 
          >> TIFFANY, I HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          FOR YOU TO SAY THAT I DON'T CARE, THIS IS BIZARRE AND IT'S ATTACKING. 
          >> YOU ASKED, DANIELLE, I'M JUST SIMPLY TELLING YOU MY TRUTH AND MY EXPERIENCE. 
          I'M BEING VULNERABLE AND SAYING THAT I REALLY AM HESITANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THE FULL EXPERIENCE OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT AND ALL OF THE STUDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          >> WELL, THAT'S QUITE A STATEMENT TO MAKE. 
          >> BACK ON TOPIC. 
          >> I WILL SAY THAT I STAND READY AS I ALWAYS HAVE, TO TALK ABOUT THE DECLINING STUDENT ENROLLMENT, WHICH I'M TELLING YOU IS IN THE DATA. 
          DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. 
          ROUND ROCK ISD IS AN OUTLIER AMONG PEER DISTRICTS, AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHOSE FAMILIES HAVE LOST CONFIDENCE IN OUR SCHOOLS AND WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS IN FAVOR OF OTHER OPTIONS. 
          MY LIFE EXPERIENCE, MY LIVED EXPERIENCE, DEMONSTRATES THAT MY PREFERENCE IS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO ATTEND OUR SCHOOLS. 
          THAT IS NOT RHETORIC, THAT IS PROOF IN MY LIFE. 
          I COULD REFLECT BACK AND I COULD DO THE ACCUSATIONS. 
          YOU SAID, PEOPLE LIKE ME, YOU SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTION. 
          I HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THAT. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. 
          I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES YOU SAID THAT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, WE'LL SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY VOTES, AND NEVER ONCE WAS THAT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I CANNOT EVEN COUNT THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOU SAID, DON'T FORGET THE ELECTION'S COMING, WE'LL SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY VOTES. 
          YES, YOU HAVE. YOU'VE DONE IT MANY TIMES. 
          I'VE NEVER CORRECTED YOU [OVERLAPPING] BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER, YOU ARE WAY OUT OF BOUNDS. 
          >> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CHAIR CAN RULE ON. 
          [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> BEFORE YOU TALK, YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO GIVE THE CHAIR OVER TO SOMEBODY FOR ONE THING, 
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BECAUSE THERE ALWAYS HAS TO BE A CHAIR. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF YOU NOT ABLE TO RUN A MEETING AGAIN. 
          YOU NEED TO HAND OFF THE CHAIR BEFORE YOU START TALKING. 
          >> I DON'T RECALL SAYING THAT IN BOARD MEETINGS, BUT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. I COULD BE WRONG. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. CAN WE MOVE ON FROM THIS? 
          >> I AGREE. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON FROM THIS, AND SO [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. 
          >> SECOND. 
          >> THIS IS MARY'S AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. 
          >> ACTUALLY, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER, I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ON THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. 
          >> SHOW ME WHERE THAT IS IN THE ROBERT RULES. 
          >> LET'S GO AND GET IT BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE. 
          >> ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LAWYER THAT GETS PAID SIX FIGURES. 
          WHY DON'T THE LAWYER FIGURE OUT THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND UNDERSTAND. 
          IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY [OVERLAPPING] UNDERSTANDS THE ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER. 
          >> YOU GUYS HAVE THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TRAINING. 
          THE LAWYER TOLD YOU GUYS YOU CANNOT PREVENT DISCUSSION. 
          YOU CAN LIMIT IT, BUT YOU CANNOT PREVENT IT. 
          >> THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF DISCUSSION. 
          I HAVE MOVED TO ADJOURN, THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. 
          >> ACTUALLY, I GET TO TALK BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. 
          >> STOP. 
          THERE'S WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE TALKING AT ONE TIME. 
          FIRST OF ALL, EVERYBODY STOP. 
          TRUSTEE WEIR, I WILL RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND THE SECOND THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          THIS IS TRUSTEE BONE, ONE OF HER REQUESTS TO HAVE THIS ON HERE. 
          I DO THINK THAT SHE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND AT LEAST MENTION WHY SHE WANTS TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO REMOVE YOUR MOTION, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT. 
          >> I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION, BUT I WILL BE LEAVING. 
          >> TRUSTEES ZARATE, DO YOU WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND? 
          >> NO. 
          >> THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE. 
          >> TO BE FAIR, I DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE THE MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. 
          >> SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          >> I DON'T HAVE TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND BECAUSE THE MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. 
          >> AWESOME. TRUSTEE BONE, I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU. 
          >> FOR ONE THING, THIS CONVERSATION WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IF THIS ISSUE WAS FIXED. 
          LOTS OF YOU BROUGHT UP QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT CAN STAFF DO? WELL, THERE ARE SOME HARD QUESTIONS. 
          MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT STAFF. 
          MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE INVOLVED. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION I WOULD ASK, SOLVING A PROBLEM. 
          BECAUSE AS SEVEN, WHILE WE CAN MAKE CHOICES UP HERE AND DO THINGS, WE CAN'T GO OUT AND GRAB THESE KIDS AND BRING THEM IN. 
          WE DON'T WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK OR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          THIS NEEDS TO BE A MISSION FROM OUR STAFF. 
          THE REASON I WANTED THIS AS AN AGENDA TOPIC IS FOR ONE THING, I WANTED THE BOARD AND I APPRECIATE TIFFANY, ACTUALLY I LISTENED TO YOU TIFFANY, ACTUALLY I LISTENED. 
          I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THIS DIALOGUE AND I CAN HEAR IT. 
          BUT I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR IT BACK BECAUSE THE THINGS YOU WERE SAYING, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE FOR BOTH SIDES. 
          I ACTUALLY TOOK IT AND I'M LIKE, GOOD, WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE. 
          I LIKE THIS BECAUSE I SOLVE HARD PROBLEMS FOR A LIVING AND THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW IT WORKS. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THEN REALLY AMAZING THINGS HAPPEN. 
          I REALLY HEARD YOU AND WAS LIKE, GO TIFFANY, GO TRUSTEE HARRISON BECAUSE WE BOTH NEED TO HEAR THIS. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE SAYING, I HOPE YOU CAN REFLECT ON THAT YOU'VE ALREADY CLOSED YOUR MIND. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY CLOSED YOUR MIND WHEN YOU SAID THINGS ABOUT THE ELECTION, YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN OFF ME AND MY KIDS, NOT JUST ME BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE A REFLECTION OF ME, I'M HERE. 
          I HOPE WE CAN HEAR THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME HEALING AND I THINK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOO. 
          THERE'S SOME HEALING THAT MAY NEED TO BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THESE TOUGH TOPICS BEFORE 2024. 
          BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO 2024, IT COULD BE TOO LATE. 
          WHEN YOU GET MOMENTUM ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL, SOMETIMES IT'S TOO LATE. 
          THAT'S WHY I WANTED THIS. 
          I DO HAVE TO SAY AND TRUSTEE WESTON BROUGHT THIS UP AND I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD REFLECT ON THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ROBUST PLANS TO GET OUR ENROLLMENT BACK. 
          ALL WE DID WAS OPEN UP THE DISTRICT. 
          AS A SYSTEMS ENGINEER, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK RIGHT AWAY, WHICH WE HAVE NOT ASKED IS, WHAT IS OPENING UP THE DISTRICT ACTUALLY DO? I'VE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE PERSONALLY ALREADY COME UP TO ME. 
          ACTUALLY, SOME OF THEM ARE TEACHERS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT THAT ARE NOW 
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PLANNING ON JUST MOVING THEIR KIDS BACK TO THEIR DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING OPENING UP YOUR DISTRICT? THIS WAS A BENEFIT TO ME TO HAVE MY KIDS COME HERE AND NOW YOU'RE OPENING IT UP, YOU'RE BRINGING IN WHO KNOWS WHO. 
          WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE REPERCUSSIONS SO THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT. 
          THE NUMBERS WERE ALSO BROUGHT UP, IN '19-'20, WE DROPPED 994 KIDS, WHICH WAS THE BIGGEST, WHICH WAS COVID. 
          THAT'S EXPLAINABLE. 
          WHAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP TOO IS THAT THIS YEAR IN-BETWEEN 2022-2203, WE LOST ANOTHER 455 STUDENTS. 
          THAT'S A HUGE DROP. AS DANIELLE MENTIONED, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE COMING. 
          THE WAY CHARTER SCHOOLS WORK IN TEXAS IS ONCE THEY'RE OKAY TO BUILD, THEY CAN BUILD WHEREVER THEY WANT AND AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. 
          I THINK THIS CONVERSATION AND WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE ANTI-PUBLIC SCHOOL, DANIELLE AND I ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES UP HERE SAYING, WE DON'T CARE IF THERE'S DECLINING BIRTH RATE. 
          I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE DECLINING KIDS IN MY COMMUNITY. 
          WELL, THEN I WANT TO BRING THE KIDS BACK FROM PRIVATE SCHOOL. 
          I WANT TO BRING KIDS BACK FROM CHARTER SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANT. I WANT A DISTRICT WHERE KIDS COME BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS. 
          I WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, TIFFANY, I WANT THEM TO FEEL SAFE. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          DR. AZAIEZ, I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS SPECIFIC GROUPS OF STUDENTS THAT ARE LEAVING AROUND ROCK ISD WE SHOULD KNOW THAT AS A BOARD, WE SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THAT. 
          ACTUALLY THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS, BY THE WAY, THAT I DO EXPECT OF MANAGEMENT. 
          I EXPECT THESE IN MY OWN JOB AND I EXPECT THEM HERE. 
          OUR MANAGEMENT SHOULD KNOW ENROLLMENT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, UPSIDE DOWN. 
          THEY SHOULD KNOW THESE NUMBERS INSIDE AND OUT. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHY. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T BE OUT OF THE AIR. 
          THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO US ON PAPER. 
          MADAM CHAIR, IT'S HARD TO TALK OVER THE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT IN THE AUDIENCE TALKING TO YOU. 
          IF YOU COULD ASK FOR THE DECORUM. 
          >> I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SPEAKING. 
          >> I COULDN'T. I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID HERE TONIGHT, I DON'T MEAN THIS. 
          I REALLY DON'T WANT THIS TAKEN THE WRONG WAY. 
          BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN AND WHEN CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER THEM IN POWER SAY CERTAIN THINGS, IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. 
          YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT YOU WON THE ELECTION OVERWHELMINGLY. 
          BUT I ACTUALLY REMEMBER ONE PERSON ON THIS DAIS ACTUALLY CAUTIONING RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION THAT, DO YOU WANT 40 PERCENT OF YOUR STUDENTS JUST TO GET UP AND WALK AWAY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? BECAUSE OVERWHELMINGLY OF AN ELECTION, IT LOOKS WAY DIFFERENT THAN OVERWHELMINGLY OF YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO FIND COMMON GROUND. 
          I THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE THE TWO POLITICAL ENDS AND GET THEM OUT AND COME TO THE MORE MIDDLE GROUND SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO CORE ACADEMICS, WHICH BY THE WAY, WASN'T REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET TONIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT REFLECTED WHEN YOU'RE CUTTING FORWARD FACING TEACHERS AND LIBRARIAN ASSISTANTS, AND YOU'RE CUTTING SEVEN APS WHO BARELY ALTOGETHER, I THINK THE SEVEN ATPS MADE 500 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE AND OUR WHOLE DISTRICT THAT ALMOST MAKES THAT. 
          YOU'RE CUTTING SEVEN POSITIONS AND WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT ALMOST MAKES THAT. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT AS STUDENT FOCUSED. 
          I THINK OUR VALUES, AND I DO THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THAT. 
          I'VE SEEN IT IN MY TIME. 
          I'VE SEEN PET PROJECTS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO WASH THOSE OUT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT. 
          I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. 
          I THINK WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON LEGAL FEES. 
          I THINK THOSE THINGS NEED TO GET WRAPPED UP AND WE NEED TO FIGURE THOSE OUT SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON STUDENTS. 
          THESE ARE MIND IS LIKE GET BACK TO THE BASICS. 
          I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US NEED TO GET ON BOARD OF NOT CUTTING CAMPUS LEVEL BECAUSE THAT SIGNALS TO THE PARENTS THAT WE ARE FULLY FOCUSED ON CAMPUS LEVEL EDUCATION. 
          YOUR STUDENTS SITTING IN THAT SEAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON. 
          I DO THINK AS YOU MAKE YOUR SCHOOLS BETTER, AND AS WE GET OUT. 
          WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SAFETY, WE HAD A BIOLOGICAL MALE IN THE FEMALE'S BATHROOM LAST YEAR. 
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THOSE TYPES OF SAFETY ISSUES, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THESE SAFETY ISSUES OUT. 
          SOME OF THIS STUFF IS HARD TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT POLICIES AND JUST SAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          SO THAT STUDENTS KNOW, PARENTS KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW. 
          WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS FOR SAFETY IS ON THE CAMPUSES. 
          IT'S STUDYING EXPECTATIONS. 
          I DO KNOW THIS BOARD HAS HAD A HARD TIME DOING THINGS OUT IN THE PUBLIC. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO START DOING. 
          PUTTING THESE POLICIES IN PLACE, PUT THE BATHROOM POLICY IN PLACE, VOTE ON IT, DO IT OUT IN PUBLIC. 
          >> TRUSTEE BONE. 
          >> YEAH. I'M TRYING TO GET OVER IT, BUT I'M SAYING THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT BECAUSE IT GOES TO TRUSTEE HARRISON'S SAFETY. 
          >> BUT YOU'VE HAMMERED THE [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> DID YOU REALIZE YOU JUST CALLED EVERY CHILD THAT'S TRANS IN OUR DISTRICT A SAFETY HAZARD? 
          >> NO, I WASN'T. [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> DO YOU REALIZE YOU JUST SAID THAT? 
          >> NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          CAN YOU JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND? WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR THAT DISCUSSION. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENTS EFFECT ON OUR BUDGET, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRATEGIES POSSIBLY TO INCREASE OUR ENROLLMENT SO THAT IT WILL INCREASE OUR FUNDING. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC POLICIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SAFETY PROCEDURES NECESSARILY. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RECAPTURE. 
          UNLESS WE HAVE AND I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU'VE SAID EARLIER, TRUSTEE BONE, THAT DATA TO SUPPORT THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. 
          IF YOU'RE THROWING OUT WHAT YOU THINK PERSONALLY, TRUSTEE BONE THINKS NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO BRING BACK STUDENTS TO THIS DISTRICT, THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR TRUSTEE WESTON, FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR TRUSTEE MARKUM. 
          THROWING OUT JUST RANDOM SUGGESTIONS BASED ON THINGS, THEN WE NEED TO NOT PLAY THAT GAME. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT BENEFICIAL AT THIS POINT. 
          >> FOR ONE, TRUSTEE ZARATE, IF THAT'S HOW THAT CAME OUT, THAT WAS NOT HOW [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> WE HAVE TOO MANY RED LIGHTS ON AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. THANKS. 
          >> MY WHOLE POINT IS, IS THAT WE HAD A LOT OF PARENTS SHOW UP AND A LOT OF PARENTS WERE CONCERNED. 
          THEY JUST WANTED THE POLICY IN PLACE. THAT'S ALL. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOU GETTING UPSET ABOUT HOW THAT MUST HAVE CAME OUT. 
          THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, AND YOU SAY, IT'S JUST MARY'S OPINION. 
          I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE HAD LOTS OF PARENTS SHOW UP. 
          I DO KNOW THERE WAS OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE STANDING OUTSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER, BUT WE ACTUALLY GET A LOT OF EMAILS. 
          WE CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH OUR EMAILS AND TRUSTEE MARKUM AND ZARATE DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNT OF EMAILS THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT WE'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THROUGH LOTS OF THIS DECLINE. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OR THERE'S AT LEAST TWO THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD ACTUALLY DURING ALMOST ALL OF THE BIG DECLINE. 
          WE CAN GO BACK. 
          WE'VE SEEN PARENTS REACH OUT. 
          WE'VE HAD PARENTS COME IN HERE. 
          PARENTS HAVE TOLD US. 
          I WOULD GO BACK TO YOU, TRUSTEE HARRISON, I DON T THINK WE'VE LISTENED. 
          I DON T THINK ALL SEVEN OF US. 
          I CAN'T REALLY INCLUDE SOME OF THE NEW FOLKS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HERE. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE LISTENED. 
          WE'VE HAD PARENTS WHO HAVE CAME IN ALREADY PULLED THEIR KIDS OUT AND LEFT. 
          AT LEVEL 3S, THEY'RE TELLING US. YEAH. 
          >> I WANT TO GET TO ACTIONABLE, IT'S LATE. 
          MY QUESTION AND MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME SYNERGY ON THIS. 
          I ASKED IF WE HAD DONE A SURVEY. 
          I THINK PART OF THE COMMUNITY TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION, THE THOUGHT IS, LET'S HAVE THESE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS. 
          LET'S REVISIT OUR VALUES AS A DISTRICT. 
          WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN WE DO? WE NEED TO HEAR FROM PARENTS. 
          IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM PARENTS ABOUT WHY THE ENROLLMENT IS DECLINING? THEN WE CAN'T FORCE ANYONE TO COME BACK? ALL WE CAN DO IS FOCUS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK THAT WE CAN POSTURE ALL NIGHT, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO SAY, WHAT DO WE AGREE ON THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR? I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA DISAGGREGATED. 
          >> I'VE ASKED FOR THESE EXIT SURVEYS MULTIPLE TIMES IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW IF THE'RE FAMILY EXIT SURVEYS. THERE ARE? 
          >> NO, I'VE ASKED I SAID IF WE'RE NOT CAPTURING WHEN THESE PEOPLE LEAVE, WHY THEY'RE LEAVING. 
          I TALKED ABOUT HOW IN MY JOB THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO WITH EMPLOYEES BECAUSE 
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OTHERWISE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS EMPLOYEES [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> DOES THAT EXIST? LET'S GET THERE. 
          >> I'VE ASKED FOR IT. 
          >> DR. AZAIEZ DOES NOT EXIST? 
          >> THE SOONEST IS A LOT DIFFERENT. 
          BECAUSE NUMBER ONE IS, PARENTS SOMETIMES JUST WITHDRAW THEIR KIDS AND THEY WON'T EVEN TELL US EVEN A REASON WHY. 
          WE CAN ASK HIM. CERTAINLY, WE CAN, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE NECESSARILY RESPOND. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE I'M SAYING? WITH STAFF IS A LIITLE BIT EASIER, BUT EVEN WITH STAFF, IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO TELL US. 
          SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THE ISSUE. 
          >> WOULD WE BE IN FAVOR OF ASKING PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT? WE CANNOT COERCE THEM, BUT WOULD WE BE IN FAVOR OF ASKING THEM WHY AND LOOKING AT THAT INFORMATION. 
          >> YEAH. I THINK THERE'S TWO STEPS THAT I WOULD LIKE. 
          ONE OF THEM IS THAT OF ASKING WHY PEOPLE LEFT. 
          I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY EVEN GO THROUGH OUR EMAILS. 
          PEOPLE HAVE EMAILED US, MY KIDS ARE LEAVING AND GO BACK THROUGH THOSE. 
          FOR ME THAT'S WHAT STAFF NEED TO DO. 
          AS INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES, WE REALLY CAN'T AGGREGATE THAT DATA. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE IS ATTEMPTING TO REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS THAT ARE IN. 
          WE ARE IN A COMPETITION WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT PROGRAMS DO THEY HAVE? WHAT ARE THEY OFFERING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? HOW DO THE KIDS FEEL SAFER THERE? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? BECAUSE THEN MAYBE WE CAN REPEAT THAT OUR SCHOOLS. 
          >> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO HOPEFULLY CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE WITHOUT FEELING LIKE WE'RE TRAMPLING OVER EACH OTHER. 
          BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE. 
          I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT A LOT OF PARENTS ARE GOING TO BASIS BECAUSE OF THE ACADEMIC FOCUS AND BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE STEM, AND ROBOTICS. 
          WE TRIED TO BE COMPETITIVE. 
          WE HAVE A VERY LARGE POPULATION ASKING FOR THAT. 
          TO ME, AS AN EDUCATOR HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS ACROSS THE DISTRICT FOR BUILDING COMPETENCE AND CONFIDENCE IN YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND MATH AND SCIENCE. 
          WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. 
          WE NEED TO GET OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING TO BASIS, THEN WHY IS IT WRONG FOR US TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE AND OFFER ROBOTICS? IF THAT'S THE THING THAT'S REALLY DRIVING THAT DECISION. 
          ARE WE REALLY OPEN TO COMMUNING WITH OUR COMMUNITY? CAN WE GET SOME HELP HAVING SOME FORMAL MECHANISMS FOR RECEIVING THAT FEEDBACK, AND I'M REQUESTING IT? 
          >> YEAH. I THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE MICROCULTURES WHICH YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. 
          WHEN I WENT TO AN SBA, THEY TALKED ABOUT AND THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE INDIVIDUALLY DIFFERENT. 
          ONE SCHOOL MAY REALLY WANT ROBOTICS OF ONE FLAVOR. 
          ROBOTICS IS NOT JUST A GENERAL, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF ROBOTICS. 
          ANOTHER SCHOOL MAY ACTUALLY WANT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ROBOTICS. 
          THEY ARE MORE FAMILY ORIENTATED WITH OLDER KIDS COMING IN AND HELPING, AND MAYBE WHEN ONES KNOW THEY ARE LIKE THESE ARE VERY INDEPENDENT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY START INDIVIDUALIZING OUR SCHOOLS, UNDERSTANDING OUR COMMUNITIES, AND PROVIDING THEM WHAT THEY WANT. 
          THAT WAY FAMILIES ARE DRAWN BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS NATURALLY. 
          YES, AND I THINK IT STARTS WITH DATA. 
          IT STARTS WITH SERVING THESE FOLKS. 
          I THINK IT STARTS ALSO WITH US DEMONSTRATING THAT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET ACADEMICS AT THE TOP OF EVERYBODY'S LIST. 
          THAT'S WHY PEOPLE SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. 
          >> I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING REALLY FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU-ALL ARE WORKING ON. 
          THE COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON THAT PROJECT. 
          I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD STEP AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE RIGHT WILL SHOW WHERE IN OUR DISTRICT WE HAVE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AND WE CAN THEN ASK OUR ADMINISTRATION TO ALLOCATE US AS NECESSARY. I LIKE THAT POINT. 
          >> I AGREE. I WANT TO SAY MAYBE BECAUSE I WANT TO POINT OUT A DIFFERENT DATA POINT. 
          EVERYBODY CARES MOST ABOUT ACADEMICS. 
          WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST FORUMS ABOUT GOALS, THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC AND DIFFERENT OUTCOMES FOR OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY, OUR POPULATION OVERWHELMINGLY THEY SAID, I WANT MY KIDS TO FEEL CARED FOR AND TAKING CARE OF AT SCHOOL, EVEN ABOVE ACADEMICS. 
          WE CAN'T JUST COMPLETELY NEGATE WHAT 30% OF OUR DISTRICT SAID THEY NEED. I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          WE'RE FINDING POINTS OF CONVERGENCE, UNDERSTAND MICROCULTURES. 
          BUT SOMETIMES WE SIT UP HERE AND WE SAY, WELL ROBOTICS IS A PET PROJECT. 
          IF 515 OF OUR KIDS WENT TO BASIS BECAUSE OF THAT PET PROJECT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING I'M SEEING FIRST GRADERS ACROSS THE DISTRICT ALL THE WAY ON THE EAST SIDE, WE KNOW THE WEST SIDE LOVES ROBOTICS TYPICALLY. 
          ALL THE WAY ON THE EAST SIDE REALLY BENEFITING FROM SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T EXIST IN THESE SCHOOLS PREVIOUSLY. 
          OR NOT TO THIS DEGREE. 
          I THINK MAYBE PART OF THE THING IS US NOT SHUTTING DOWN WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BECAUSE I DON T THINK THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ALL WANT ACADEMICS. 
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I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THEIR KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND NOT BE HARMED. 
          >> [LAUGHTER] WELL, I THINK SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT'S THE FLOOR. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE PAST THAT. 
          BECAUSE, I DO UNDERSTAND, AND ACTUALLY, AT THE NASPA CONFERENCE, THE LADY THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MICROCULTURES AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR SCHOOL. 
          SHE ACTUALLY WAS FROM A MAJORITY HISPANIC SCHOOL AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE VERY RELATIONAL AND COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT. 
          BUT SHE ALSO DID SAY THAT. 
          WHEN THEY GO UP TO HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO EXCEL TOO. 
          I GUESS THAT'S WHEN I TALK ABOUT ACADEMICS. 
          I JUST MEAN, EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR KIDS TO EXCEL, AND DO BETTER THAN THEY DID. 
          THAT'S WHAT PARENTS WANT. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          ALSO, I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS AND IT'S VERY NUANCED. 
          THE FACT THAT WHEN I TALK ABOUT ROBOTICS AND SHUTTING IT DOWN, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE PET PROJECTS. 
          AS ANY BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK YOU SHOULD COME TO THE BOARD. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD AGREE TO IT AND IT SHOULD MOVE ON. 
          BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DO THINGS WITH FIDELITY. 
          WHEN THEY'RE NOT DONE AT THE BOARD LEVEL WITH THE BOARD MAJORITY AND THEIR PET PROJECTS. 
          THEY DON'T GET DONE WITH FIDELITY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST DONE IN THE BACKGROUND AS, HEY, WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS OR DOING THIS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND. 
          THIS THING WESTWARD WITH FBLA. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THESE NUANCED PROGRAMS, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY IMPACT AND IF THEY ARE DOING WITH FIDELITY. 
          NOT TAKE AWAY THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING. 
          BUT MAYBE THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE NOT MEETING THEIR PURPOSES ANYMORE. 
          >> I'D JUST LIKE TO YES END YOU. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT ROBOTICS WAS A PET PROJECT. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE THINGS TRADITIONALLY COME TO THE BOARD. 
          IT MAY BE OUT OF OUR LANE. 
          BUT IF WE CAN GO ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT ADDING THINGS THAT BETTER STUDENTS IN OUR BUDGET, I JUST THINK, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S HARD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS SOMETIMES ON THIS DIAS. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HURT AND HARM, AND I THINK IT'S OFTEN THAT WE'RE ALL TRIGGERED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          IF WE WANT TO GET TO THAT MORE PRODUCTIVE PLACE WHERE WE'RE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, LET'S DO IT. 
          BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING THAT'S A PET PROJECT. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE. 
          >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN DR. AZAIEZ WAS HERE, HIM AND I BOTH AGREE THAT HAVING ROBOTICS IS ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT WAS SOMETHING HIM AND I BOTH AGREED ON. 
          IT'S JUST THE WAY WE GO ABOUT DOING THINGS. 
          I THINK IT SPEAKS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SPEAKS A LOT TO OUR STAFF. 
          WHEN WE SAY WE'RE BEHIND THIS, WE'RE DOING THIS. 
          IT MAKES SURE THAT WITH ROBOTICS THOUGH, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND ROBOTICS. 
          I'VE BEEN ON THE TEAMS, I'VE HELPED THEM. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH FIDELITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF THAT REALLY KNOWS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THEM TO A ONE-DAY TRAINING [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> BRING IT BACK TO ENROLLMENT. 
          >> THEY KNOW IT [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU, TRUSTEE ANDREW, I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE PROGRAMS. I DO THINK OUR PROGRAMMING THOUGH BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT PEOPLE GO TO THESE OTHER SCHOOLS FOR PROGRAMMING. 
          I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR PROGRAMS WITH FIDELITY. 
          >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MIGHT HELP US MOVE ALONG [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> TRUSTEE MARKUM HAD HER LIGHT ON FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. 
          >> [OVERLAPPING] GO AHEAD. 
          >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT SHE'S OVER HERE. DO YOU SEE MY LIGHT? 
          >> SHE SHOULD JUST YELL IT GET BAD LIKE THE REST OF US [LAUGHTER] 
          >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE SURVEYS, BUT THEY DO NEED TO BE MEANINGFUL. 
          THEY DO NEED TO BE DISAGGREGATED. 
          WE DO NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A RETURN RATE ON THEM THAT'S MEANINGFUL. 
          I THINK THAT THOSE COULD HELP INFORM BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A PLACE FOR DATA AND THERE'S A PLACE FOR ANECDOTAL DATA. 
          WE NEED BOTH PIECES OF THE PUZZLE. 
          I THINK THAT MAYBE THOSE SURVEYS CAN INFORM WHAT SOME OF THOSE TOPICS FOR THOSE COMMUNITY SESSIONS, WHICH WOULD THEN INFORM THE NEEDS FOR POSSIBLY INCREASING ENROLLMENT. 
          I DO WANT TO SAY TOO THOUGH, THAT GOING INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS AND I LIKED THAT WE'RE AT A PEACEFUL PLACE RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE'RE HAVING HARD CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          THAT HARD CONVERSATIONS DO PUT PEOPLE IN VULNERABLE PLACES. 
          SOMETIMES WHEN A TRUTH IS TOLD TO US, WE CAN FEEL OFFENDED BY THAT. 
          BUT PART OF HAVING A HARD CONVERSATION IS TRYING TO TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT'S GIVEN TO YOU AND NOT IMMEDIATELY TURNING IT INTO YOU BEING A VICTIM OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS THAT, AND LATER COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE THERE WAS A TRUTH TO THIS, BUT ALSO MAYBE THERE WASN'T A TRUTH TO THIS PIECE OF IT. 
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WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS THAT AND NOT IMMEDIATELY TURN IT BACK ON OURSELVES IF WE REALLY DO WANT TO HAVE THOSE HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SAFETY AND ENROLLMENT. 
          >> ENROLLMENT. [LAUGHTER] WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE HARD CONVERSATIONS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY IF WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY OUR STUDENTS ARE LEAVING, WHY OUR FAMILIES FEEL THE WAY THAT THEY DO. 
          THEN I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO VALUE DATA, WE NEED TO VALUE DATA. 
          I KNOW THAT WE KEEP DISMISSING THE DECLINING BIRTH RATE. 
          BUT I HAVE AN ARTICLE RIGHT HERE WHERE MIKE MORAN TALKED TO THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE. 
          HE CITED THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR EDUCATION STATISTICS FOR THE DECLINE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          THEN ALSO THERE'S TEA DATA ABOUT HOW THIS IS A TREND ACROSS THE STATE. 
          I THINK THAT IN THESE CONVERSATIONS, IF WE'RE GOING TO VALUE DATA, WE NEED TO VALUE DATA AND NOT JUST DISMISS IT BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE WHAT IT HAS TO SAY. 
          I JUST WANT TO PUT THOSE THINGS OUT THERE AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS CONVERSATION. 
          LIKE I SAID, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE IN A PEACEFUL PLACE ABOUT THIS. 
          BUT IF WE REALLY DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT MORE WAYS TO GET OUR ENROLLMENT UP, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE DISTRICT FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING, HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS ON HOW WE ARE TRYING TO BRING STUDENTS BACK IN WITH THOSE ADVANCED MATH PATHWAYS. 
          I KNOW PART OF THAT IS OUR GOALS AND TRYING TO CLOSE THAT MATH AND READING GAP. 
          BUT THOSE ARE ALSO VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP. 
          THEN WHEN I'M ALSO LOOKING AT PRE-K, I THINK THAT WE'RE GIVING MORE STUDENTS OPPORTUNITIES AT EARLY EDUCATION THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE IF WE DID NOT PROVIDE THAT. 
          THAT IS ALSO GOING TO INCREASE OUR ENROLLMENT. 
          >> TRUSTEE WESTON HAS HER LIGHT ON, BUT I WANTED TO CHECK IN, TRUSTEE ZARATE, YOUR LIGHT DOESN'T WORK VERY OFTEN. 
          DID YOU HAVE YOUR BUTTON PUSHED? 
          >> CAN I JUST ADD A DATA POINT TO TRUSTEE MARKUM'S REAL QUICK, AND JUST FINISHED THAT? I WOULD SAY THAT DATA POINT IS CORRECT BY THE WAY, THAT MORATH IS TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND IT'S ACTUALLY THOUGH IN 10 YEARS IS WHAT HE'S REFERENCING. 
          JUST FOR THE DATA POINT, IN 2019, 2020 IN TEXAS, THIS IS THE TA DOCUMENT FOR ENROLLMENT ACROSS THE STATE. 
          WE HAD 5,493,940 STUDENTS, AND THAT WAS A PLUS OF 1.1% FROM THE YEAR PRIOR. 
          THEN OF COURSE, 2020, 2021, IT WENT DOWN BY 2.2%. 
          BUT THEN LAST YEAR, '21-'22, LAST SCHOOL YEAR, IT WENT BACK UP TO 5,427,370. 
          IT ACTUALLY WENT UP A PERCENT FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          THERE IS DECLINING, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAY OUT. 
          HE'S LOOKING AT THE TENURE. 
          WE DO NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          BUT WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW FOR ME, IS IN THE NEXT 1, 2, 3 YEARS, NOT 10. THANK YOU. 
          >> TRUSTEE ZARATE. 
          >> YES. [LAUGHTER] I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHY THESE STUDENTS ARE LEAVING. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHY THESE FAMILIES ARE LEAVING. 
          IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A BOARD, AS A BODY CORPORATE, I'M TRYING TO FIND MY RIGHT WORDS HERE. 
          WHEN WE SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE NOT ON THEIR SIDE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND THAT GOES BOTH WAYS, IT SAYS TO OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES THAT THEY SHOULD GET OUT OF HERE. 
          WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER IN PUBLIC ABOUT THIS, NOT JUST SAYING THAT WE FEEL THESE WAYS ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          WE NEED TO BE DOING IT. 
          WE NEED TO BE PUTTING OURSELVES OUT THERE IN THE RIGHT PLACES, ALIGNED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SIDE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND NOT ALIGNING WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT KIDS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, THAT WANT THESE SCHOOLS TO FAIL, THAT WANT THESE BUILDINGS TO CRUMBLE. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> I'M TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT. 
          >> YEAH. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? 
          >> THIS FEELS LIKE A LACK OF DECORUM. 
          IT'S A LACK OF DECORUM ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. 
          >> I DON'T SEE IT. CONTINUE TRUSTEE ZARATE. 
          >> I WILL BE BRIEF. [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> THEN I NEED THE SPECIFICS OF WHO IS SAYING THIS ABOUT AND I NEED MORE SPECIFICS. [OVERLAPPING] 
          >> YOU AND MARY, THAT'S WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. 
          >> THAT'S A LACK OF DECORUM, MADAM CHAIR. 
          >> I'M NOT ACCUSING YOU OF BEING A BAD PERSON. 
          IT'S NOT A LACK OF DECORUM TO CALL YOU OUT FOR ROOTING AGAINST THE DISTRICT. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER. I'M NOT DOING THAT. 
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          >> IT'S MY JOB. IT'S MY DUTY AS A PERSON 
          >> POINT OF ORDER, MADAM CHAIR. 
          >> SITTING ON THIS STATS TO KEEP US ALL ACCOUNTABLE. 
          >> I'VE ALREADY RULED ON YOUR POINT OF ORDER. 
          HE'S EXPRESSING AN OPINION. 
          HE'S ENTITLED TO EXPRESS HIS OPINION. 
          I'VE ALREADY RULED ON YOUR POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> PERSONAL ATTACKS OR NOT. 
          >> IT'S NOT AN ATTACK. IT IS A FACT, YOU ALL. 
          >> IT IS A PERSONAL ATTACK. 
          >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE MICROPHONES ON AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YOU'VE ASKED FOR A POINT OF ORDER. I'VE RULED ON IT. 
          TRUSTEE ZARATE, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH ENROLLMENT. 
          YOU'RE ENTITLED TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION. 
          >> WE NEED TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR KIDS ARE. 
          WE NEED TO BE DOING STUFF TOGETHER AS A BODY CORPORATE THAT REFLECT THE VALUES OF OUR DISTRICT. 
          IT DOESN'T JUST GO TO THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. 
          WE ARE IN AN ELECTED POSITION TO REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THE SCHOOLS TO SUCCEED. 
          IT IS A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS DISTRICT THAT WANT THIS. 
          WE NEED TO JUST GET OVER OUR NONSENSE AND START WORKING TOGETHER ON GETTING THIS ALLOCATION TO THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          >> HOW TO INCREASE TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT. 
          >> HOW DO WE INCREASE THE ALLOCATIONS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE TEACHERS TO DRAW THESE KIDS IN FOR ENROLLMENT? THAT'S IT [LAUGHTER]. 
          I COULD GO ON, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE PRODUCTIVE. 
          >> CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING AND I DO THINK BECAUSE IT COMES BACK TO WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO GET PAST IS THAT YOU SAID THE MAJORITY. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAJORITY, IT WAS A 60/40 SPLIT. 
          ARE WE OKAY WITH SAYING 40% OF ROUND ROCK ISD? BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON WAS TRYING TO SAY. 
          WHEN YOU SAY MAJORITY, 60% IS A MAJORITY. 
          I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH 60% AS THE MAJORITY OF A VOTE. 
          ARE YOU SAYING THAT 40 PERCENT? 
          >> NO, NOT AT ALL. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> TIE THIS BACK TO ENROLLMENT. 
          >> THAT'S A SPACIOUS ARGUMENT. 
          >> THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING THOSE ARE THE KIDS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> I LOVE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          I WANT TO HAVE MORE OF THEM, BUT NOT IF THEY'RE DISINGENUOUS. 
          >> I REALLY WASN'T BEING DISINGENUOUS. 
          I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ARE WE FOR ALL STUDENTS BECAUSE I THINK YOU DID SAY MAJORITY? 
          >> WE'RE DEFINITELY FOR ALL STUDENTS. 
          >> BRING IT BACK TO ENROLLMENT. 
          >> I THINK WE'RE SAYING PRO PUBLIC EDUCATION, PRO INCREASING OUR ENROLLMENT, PRO KEEPING OUR MONEY HERE. 
          I PERSONALLY THINK WHEN I REFERRED TO THE ELECTION, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DISREGARD A PERCENTAGE. 
          THAT MEANS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ENROLLMENT LIKE WE WANT TO SEE, ROUND ROCK ISD, FULLY ENROLLED AND FULLY FUNDED BY THE STATE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE REALITY. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SAY WE WANT TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT, BUT THEN IN OUR ACTIONS, DO THINGS AS INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES THAT ARE HARMING ENROLLMENT. 
          >> BUT WE OPENED UP OUR OWN DISTRICT, TIFFANY. 
          WE OPENED UP OUR DISTRICT TO STEAL KIDS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S STILL ENROLLMENT. 
          THAT IS A STRATEGY OF INCREASING ENROLLMENT. 
          THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE OF, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S COMING HERE. 
          WELL, THEY'RE CHILDREN. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING HERE WHEN WE OPEN ENROLLMENT? CHILDREN ARE COMING HERE. 
          >> BUT THEIR PARENTS CAN'T VOTE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, OUR BOND ELECTIONS, THEY CAN'T VOTE IN OUR TRUSTEE ELECTIONS. 
          I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A DISTANCE AND A DIVIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO COME. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER TO PASS BONDS. 
          TIFFANY, IT'S LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWERS. 
          THEY'RE ONLY TRADE-OFFS. 
          MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO LIVE HERE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO OUR SCHOOLS. 
          NOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE OUR OPINIONS HERE, I DON'T APPRECIATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID CHUY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, I WILL TELL YOU, IN OUR COMMUNITY DO NOT APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS. 
          NO. HE SAID TO GIVE HIS OPINION. 
          I'M GIVING MY OPINION. 
          >> AS IT RELATED TO ENROLLMENT. 
          >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. IT RELATES TO ENROLLMENT. 
          ACCORDING TO MY NEIGHBORS, IT RELATES TO ENROLLMENT. 
          IT ABSOLUTELY DOES. 
          >> HEY, TRUSTEE WESTON, CAN I TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          WERE YOU IN THE MILITARY? DID YOU SERVE IN THE MILITARY? 
          >> I WASN'T. I'M A BLUE STAR MOM RIGHT NOW. 
          >> YEAH. DOES THE FLAG MEANS ON TO YOU? 
          >> YES, IT DOES. 
          >> YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON. 
          GUYS. IT'S 11:17. 
          PLEASE GET BACK TO TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT. 
          WE ARE WALKING A VERY FINE LINE HERE. 
          PLEASE TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT. 
          >> SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS MUSIC TO MY EARS. 
          I DON'T APPRECIATE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT I'VE ENDURED TONIGHT, 
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BUT I'M HERE FOR CHILDREN, OBVIOUSLY, MY LIFE'S WORK DEMONSTRATES THAT PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. 
          IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE DO HAVE AGREEMENT UNLESS YOU DISSENT THAT FINALLY SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. 
          NOW ENJOYS BROAD SUPPORT AND THAT IS TO GET LEGITIMATE FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS AND TO ASK THEM WHY. 
          I WILL PREFACE THIS BY SAYING THAT MY ASK WOULD BE THAT WE GOT TO GET THESE QUESTIONS RIGHT. 
          WHEN YOU ASK WHY THEY LEFT, IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS WERE SO GREAT AND BECAUSE MY KID HAD SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE ARE MY TWO CHOICES TO EXPLAIN WHY I LEFT. 
          THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENTS. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT OUR CONVERSATION IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE FRUITFUL IF WE COME WITH REAL FEEDBACK FROM REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE HAVE MAJORITY OF SUPPORT FOR THAT FINALLY. 
          >> YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO SEE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS BECAUSE ONE THING I REALLY APPRECIATED AND THAT WAS SOBERING FOR ME. 
          I MEAN, I ALMOST DIDN'T RUN AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS WAS WHEN WE HAD THE TEACHER SURVEY AND WE HAD ALL THOSE OPEN-ENDED AND WE READ HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF THEIR REAL FEEDBACK OF THIS BOARD CAN WORK TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T CARE WHO'S WRONG. YOU ALL JUST CAN'T WORK TOGETHER. 
          IT WAS LABORIOUS, IT WAS TIME-CONSUMING, BUT IT WAS SUPER INFORMATIVE TO READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE. 
          I WOULD LOVE FOR THERE TO BE OPEN FEEDBACK AND I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SOME AGREEMENT. 
          DR. AZAIEZ, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING? 
          >> FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE ASSIGNMENT. 
          I GUESS MY HOMEWORK. 
          THE ONLY THING I NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AS FAR AS HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR EMAILS. 
          >> I THINK A LOT OF THESE FOLKS, WHEN THEY LEAVE, WE'D NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR EMAILS. 
          THAT SAID WHAT I GUESS I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GET IN TOUCH WITH THESE PEOPLE. 
          >> THAT'S ONE I CANNOT SAY EXACTLY NOW AND I NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH. 
          A TRUSTEE HARRISON, I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU YES, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE SURVEY DONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW AGAIN HOW BUT WE WILL SHARE THE DETAILS WHEN I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          >> AGAIN, JUST ME SAYING THIS. 
          MY OPINION. WE ALSO CANNOT FORGET ABOUT THAT ALMOST 47,000 STUDENTS WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE THEM. 
          I'M HEARING A LOT ALWAYS THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF ARE DOING EVERY DAY WITH THEM, OUR PARENTS. 
          OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME CONCERNS HERE AND THERE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR PARENTS ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE ARE WE HEADING AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO WE CANNOT FORGET ABOUT OUR CURRENT STUDENTS, 47,000 OF THEM. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE AGAIN AND NOW ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK OF ALL OUR STAFF, TEACHERS AND EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET EVERYTHING THEY NEED EVERY DAY WITH THE HELP OF OUR PARENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. 
          >> I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON MEETING ADJOURNED. I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          [LAUGHTER] I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MUCH. 
          I THINK THAT THESE ARE HARD CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. 
          I THINK IT STARTS AT THE TOP. 
          I THINK THAT THE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE SET AS A BOARD HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE TEMPERAMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO HEAR THAT MOVING FORWARD AND MAKE CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR BEHAVIOR ON THE BOARD. 
          I WILL ALSO SAY, I HAVE STUDIED THIS TRANSFER REPORT EXTENSIVELY, 15 OF THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE LISTED ON SLIDES 4 THROUGH 7,15 OF THOSE ENTITIES ACTUALLY HAVE A SMALLER NUMBER THIS YEAR THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HUGE NUMBERS THAT ARE DECLINING. 
          BUT 15 OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE A SMALLER NUMBER NOW THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR. 
          THAT TO ME IS A MOVEMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          THE LAST THING I REALLY WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS, I'M OKAY WITH SOME KIDS LEAVING OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE I THINK PARENTS NEED TO HAVE THAT CHOICE. 
          I THINK THESE SCHOOLS ARE HELD TO THE SAME ACCOUNTABILITY STANDARDS AS PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T BE EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME. 
          HAVING OPTIONS FOR FAMILIES, THAT PUBLIC SCHOOL DOESN'T WORK, THAT I DON'T SEE IT AS A BAD THING. 
          I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER THAT CURRENTLY IS AT RIGHT NOW OF 5,700. 
          [05:30:06]
I WOULD LIKE FOR SOME OF THOSE FAMILIES TO COME TO ROUND ROCK ISD SCHOOLS. 
          I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE HEAR SOUND BITES, THINGS THAT AREN'T BASED ON FACTS, AND THEY JUST HEAR A SOUND BITE THAT WE HAVE A LACK OF FOCUS ON CORE EDUCATION. 
          WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY MOVING FORWARD. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON. 
          LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM E1 ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          I DON'T TYPICALLY ADD ANNOUNCEMENTS TO WORKSHOPS THEY'RE TYPICALLY ONLY ON REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS. 
          BUT EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE AGENDA, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CANCEL OUR MAY 11TH BOARD MEETING, AND I DIDN'T HAVE THAT UNTIL TODAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT. 
          SO WE ARE CANCELING OUR MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK, MAY 11TH. 
          IT'S THE FACILITIES WORKSHOP AND A GRIEVANCE. 
          THE GRIEVANCE HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR JUNE 8TH AND THE FACILITIES WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE TBD ON WHEN WE'RE GOING TO RESCHEDULE THAT. 
          PART OF THIS WAS MY IDEA IN THE FACT THAT I LOOKED AT OUR CALENDAR AND WE HAD EIGHT WEEKS IN A ROW OF EITHER A BOARD MEETING OR GRADUATIONS THAT REQUIRING PLUS THE MULTITUDE OF INVITATIONS AND END OF THE YEAR CELEBRATIONS. 
          FEEDBACK I WAS GETTING IS THAT TRUSTEES RETIRED. 
          HAVING A WEEK OFF THERE, EVEN MAY 11TH, THERE'S OTHER EVENTS GOING THAT EVENING. 
          I REQUESTED THAT WE CANCEL THAT MEETING AND RESCHEDULE IT. 
          FACILITIES INFORMATION CAN WAIT. 
          THE GRIEVANT WAS FINE WITH RESCHEDULING IT. 
          THE MAY 11TH MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED. 
          THE LAST ANNOUNCEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS TRUSTEES HARRISON, WEAR, MARK AND MYSELF HAD THE HONOR OF ATTENDING THE TEACHER OF THE YEAR EVENT EARLIER THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY, I BELIEVE AND WANTED TO EXTEND A HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR 2024 ELEMENTARY TEACHER OF THE YEAR, CASSIE B, WHO IS A THIRD GRADE TEACHER AT FOREST CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND AN INCREDIBLE CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR 2024 SECONDARY TEACHER OF THE YEAR FROM EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, JULIAN JONES, WHO TEACHES WORLD GEOGRAPHY AND CREATIVE WRITING. 
          THE CELEBRATION WAS AMAZING, HEARING STORIES OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENCES AND IMPACT THESE TEACHERS HAVE MADE IT THEIR RESPECTIVE CAMPUSES BUT WE DO HAVE SOME AMAZING STAFF. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WAYS TO REWARD THEM APPROPRIATELY IN THIS COMING BUDGET CYCLE. 
          DR. AZAIEZ ALSO HAS SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE AS WELL. 
          >> NO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID WAS AN AWESOME EVENT. 
          I WANT TO THANK OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE ABLE TO ATTEND. 
          AND THE PI FOUNDATION. 
          UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MARIANA REAP, IT SHOULD BE A PLUS FEDERAL CREDIT UNION. 
          ALL OUR SPONSORS MADE THAT HAPPENED, PLUS OUR A WONDERFUL COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT WITH RACHEL LEADING THE WAY THEY WERE ABLE TO REPORT A MORE BEAUTIFUL EVENT FOR OUR TEACHERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO THE WINNERS THIS TIME, THE FIRST TIME THEY GET $2,500 CHECKS THIS TIME LIKE ALWAYS GETTING A 500, SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THAT THROUGH A DONATION FROM H-E-B. 
          IT'S REALLY GREAT EVENT. AGAIN, THANKS FOR EVERYONE. 
          BUT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF ALL OUR TEACHERS. 
          WE CELEBRATED 50, SOME OF THEM ON TUESDAY. 
          BUT REALLY LIKE ALL OUR TEACHERS ARE WONDERFUL AND AMAZING AS YOU KNOW. 
          THIS IS JUST A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALL THE, AGAIN, AMAZING TEACHERS AND STUFF WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. I KNOW IT'S LATE. 
          >> ACTUALLY. I JUST HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          WE DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT IT JUST HAPPENED WHEN WE'RE AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING. 
          BUT ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL, I BELIEVE, IT WILL BE PERFORMING AT 3:00 PM ON SATURDAY, MAY 6TH FOR UIL. 
          THIS IS A BIG DEAL THERE [OVERLAPPING] BREAK A LEG. 
          WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF YOU ALL AND TO THEIR SPONSORS AND THEIR TEACHERS. VERY EXCITING. 
          >> THAT'S AWESOME. IT IS 11:27, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.