[B. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] IT IS 5:31 ON THURSDAY, JANUARY THE 19TH, 2023. I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES, REGULAR BOARD MEETING TO ORDER. IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE TONIGHT WE HAVE TRUSTEES MARKUM, WESTON, LANDRUM, HARRISON, WEIR AND BONE AND TRUSTEE ZARATE IS UNDER THE WEATHER AND WILL BE JOINING US--THERE YOU ARE--VIRTUALLY SO WE ARE ALL IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. [D. RECOGNITION OF STUDENTS, STAFF AND TRUSTEES] ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER FOR RECOGNITION OF STUDENTS AND STAFF. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT LANDRUM, TRUSTEES AND DR. AZAIEZ. TONIGHT, IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO SHARE SOME OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAPPENING AROUND OUR DISTRICT. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO BE HOME TO SOME OF THE BEST CAMPUSES, PROGRAMS AND STAFF IN THE STATE , AND THIS EVENING I GET TO SHARE A SMALL SHOWCASE OF THAT WITH YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY. COULD OUR TRUSTEES AND DR. AZAIEZ PLEASE JOIN US IN THE FRONT OF THE DAIS? OUR FIRST RECOGNITION SENDS A STRAIGHT TO OUR STAFF ACHIEVEMENTS AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE GREAT COUNSELING WORK TAKING PLACE AT OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR WINNERS FROM THE 2022 LONE STAR STATE SCHOOL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATION AWARDS. STRIVING TO ENHANCE THE COUNSELING, RESOURCES AND SERVICES PROVIDED TO OUR STUDENTS, COUNSELING PROGRAMS AT FIVE CAMPUSES WERE NAMED 2022 LONE STAR STATE SCHOOL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATION AWARD WINNERS. THE AWARD RECOGNIZES CAMPUSES FOR DISPLAYING DEDICATION AND DEMONSTRATING OUTSTANDING COMPREHENSIVE COUNSELING PROGRAMS THAT ARE DATA DRIVEN FOCUS ON GOAL COMPLETION AND ALIGN TO THE AMERICAN SCHOOL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATION NATIONAL MODEL. RECIPIENTS UNDERGO A STRENUOUS APPLICATION PROCESS THAT CULMINATED THEIR YEAR LONG WORK OF IMPLEMENTING THE BEST PRACTICES OF A COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENTAL SCHOOL COUNSELING PROGRAM. CAMPUSES HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR BRONZE, SILVER OR GOLD AWARD. EACH LEVEL OF THE AWARD REPRESENTS A HIGHER RIGOR OF PROGRAMING. FOR RECOGNITION, WE'RE GOING TO BRING OUR CAMPUSES UP ONE AT A TIME. SO WHEN YOU'RE CALLED, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY UP FOR A PHOTO. KICKING OFF THE AWARDS, LAUREL MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COUNSELOR CHARLOTTE JUSTICE RECEIVED THE BRONZE AWARD FROM THE LONE STAR STATE COUNSELING ASSOCIATION [APPLAUSE] AND CHARLOTTE WILL BE JOINED BY PRINCIPAL DORIANE MARVEL. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TAKE A PHOTO AND WE ALSO INVITE OUR DIRECTOR OF COUNSELING SERVICES, DR. LASHONDA LEWIS, AND OUR COORDINATOR OF COUNSELING SERVICES, CARRIE HONTZ, TO COME UP AND JOIN FOR GROUP PHOTOS AS WELL. AWESOME, CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLOTTE. [APPLAUSE] RECEIVING THE GOLD AWARD FROM SPICEWOOD ELEMENTARY IS COUNSELOR MOLLY KENTOPP. YAY! [APPLAUSE] MOLLY, WILL YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT ALONG WITH YOUR PRINCIPAL, MELANIE SOLIS? AWESOME. CONGRATULATIONS, MOLLY. [APPLAUSE] ALSO RECEIVING THE GOLD AWARD. WE GOT A LOT OF GOLD. OUR CANYON VISTA MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELORS. NAOMI GALVAN, [INAUDIBLE] AND LAURA RILEY. PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT WITH YOUR PRINCIPAL, NICOLE HAGERTY. [00:05:18] CONGRATULATIONS, Y'ALL. [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE ANOTHER GOAL COMING UP NEXT. WE HAVE GRISHAM MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELORS THERESA DAUGHERTY AND MELISSA LEVERETTE, WHO RECEIVED A GOLD AWARD FOR THEIR WORK AT THE CAMPUS. WILL YOU PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT WITH YOUR PRINCIPAL, KYLA MILLS? CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, AND WE GOT ONE MORE. OUR FOURTH AND FINAL GOLD AWARD COMES FROM PEARSON RANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEIR COUNCILORS, RANDY CANTU, SHELBY CROWNOVER AND TAMERA WAHRER. CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE COME UP WITH YOUR PRINCIPAL, MONICA COLLINS? CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYONE, AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR COUNSELORS AND CAMPUSES. FOR OUR NEXT RECOGNITION, WE GO FROM COUNSELING TO TALENTED AND GIFTED EDUCATION. RAINE MAGGIO, OUR CURRENT DIRECTOR OF ENRICHMENT AND FORMER GIFTED AND ADVANCED ACADEMICS COORDINATOR WAS SELECTED BY THE GIFTED EDUCATION FAMILY NETWORK AS THE 2022 GIFTED ADMINISTRATOR OF THE YEAR. THIS WAS THE GROUP'S INAUGURAL YEAR FOR THE PROGRAM, WHICH HONORS ADMINISTRATORS COMMITTED TO EQUITY AND EXCELLENCE. THE GIFTED EDUCATION FAMILY NETWORK OF TEXAS SUPPORTS EXCELLENCE AND EQUITY IN GIFTED EDUCATION BY ENGAGING FAMILIES AND ACTIVITIES AND CONNECTING THEM WITH AN INTEREST IN GIFTED EDUCATION, EDUCATING AND SUPPORTING FAMILIES ON TOPICS RELATED TO GIFTED EDUCATION AND ADVOCATING FOR STRONG, VIBRANT AND APPROPRIATELY CHALLENGING EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT BENEFIT STUDENTS WHO DEMONSTRATE EXCEPTIONALLY EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OR THE POTENTIAL FOR EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE. SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING MISS MAGGIO TO THE FRONT AND JOINING HER WILL BE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FUTURE READINESS, DR. LORA DARDEN. CONGRATULATIONS, RAINE, AND THAT COMPLETES OUR STAFF LIKE RECOGNITIONS FOR THE EVENING. YOU GUYS MAY TAKE YOUR SEAT. AS THE BOARD TAKES OUR SEATS, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO SHARE, AND THAT'S FOR OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES. JANUARY IS BOARD RECOGNITION MONTH AND WE RECOGNIZE AND SHOW GRATITUDE FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN YOUR WORK. OUR TRUSTEES AND TRUSTEES ACROSS THE STATE GIVE COUNTLESS HOURS TO SERVE STUDENTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND WORK TOGETHER TO MOVE EDUCATION FORWARD FOR ALL. YOU REPRESENT THE VOICE OF OUR COMMUNITY ENSURE THAT ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY DESERVE. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR OUR STUDENTS, AND I'M SURE YOU SPOTTED THEM ALREADY WHEN YOU WALKED IN, BUT OUR CAMPUSES HAVE ALSO SENT GIFTS OF APPRECIATION FOR YOU AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE OUR THANK A TRUSTEE FORUM ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN SUBMIT THEIR THANK YOUS. WE'LL HAVE THAT UP FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MONTH, AND THEN ONCE THE MONTH IS OVER, WE'LL SEND THEM TO BOARD AND WE'LL SHARE THOSE AS WELL, AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR VIDEO HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS EVENING, AND WE PICK UP RIGHT WHERE WE LEFT OFF IN RECOGNITIONS AND WE HIGHLIGHT BOARD RECOGNITION MONTH. WE DID HAVE A LITTLE HELP THIS MONTH AND SHOWING APPRECIATION AND WE ASKED SOME OF OUR YOUNGEST STUDENTS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE VIDEO, THEY HAD SOME REALLY INTERESTING ANSWERS. [00:15:23] OH, MY GOSH, I COULDN'T LOVE THAT MORE. [00:15:25] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. I LOVE ALL THEIR ANSWERS. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION TO DO FOR SOME OF THEM. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. [E. PUBLIC COMMENTS] AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON AND OFF THE AGENDA. WE ASK THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINT REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES. THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS. ADDITIONALLY, THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ANTI HATE RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022, WHERE THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED. PER TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02 AND 42.05, AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105, NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON. THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. IF, AFTER AT LEAST ONE MORE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ANY INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION ITEM ACTION PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN 2 MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER. FIRST PERSON ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS CHARLOTTE JUSTUS. YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU ARE A ROUND ROCK ISD EMPLOYEE AND YOU'RE SPEAKING ON AGENDA H2. HELLO, GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR OF SPEAKING TONIGHT FOR RECOGNIZING SCHOOL COUNSELOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO STUDENT SUCCESS AND YOUR SERVICE TO ROUND ROCK ISD. YOU ARE SEEN AND APPRECIATED. MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE JUSTICE AND I AM THE ROUND ROCK ISD PARENT, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR, SUPERVISOR, AND CERTIFIED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COUNSELOR AT LAUREL MOUNTAIN. THIS IS MY 15TH YEAR WITH ROUND ROCK ISD IN 15TH YEAR AS A SCHOOL COUNSELOR. SCHOOL COUNSELORS ARE A FUN BUNCH OF PEOPLE. WE ARE ZEALOUS ABOUT SUPPORTING STUDENTS, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, ACADEMIC AND BEHAVIORAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE THE ONLY CAMPUS BASED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS THAT REGULARLY SERVE ALL STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND STAFF THROUGH BOTH DIRECT SERVICES AND COLLABORATION. I'M ADDRESSING YOU TONIGHT TO ADVOCATE FOR CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT OF COUNSELOR STAFFING ON CAMPUSES. THE AMERICAN SCHOOL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATION ARE GUIDING PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDS A STUDENT TO SCHOOL COUNSELOR RATIO OF 250 TO 1. EVEN WITH COVID ESSER AND TITLE ONE FUNDING, WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE FOUR OF OUR 51 CAMPUSES MEETING THIS RATIO. ADDITIONALLY, 15 CAMPUSES HAVE ONLY ONE SCHOOL COUNSELOR, ALL ELEMENTARY, TEN OF WHICH HAVE OVER 200% OF THE RECOMMENDED CASELOAD, WHICH IS A PROBLEM IN THIS COVID/POST-COVID WORLD. WE ARE SEEING A MARKED INCREASE IN EMERGENT STUDENT NEEDS. BEHAVIORAL DYSREGULATION IS MORE EXTREME, SOCIAL SKILLS ARE LESS DEVELOPED, AND EMOTIONS ARE RUNNING HIGH AMONG STUDENTS AND STAFF, WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISES ON THE RISE. WE'VE ALREADY HAD MORE SUICIDAL OUTCRIES ON MY CAMPUS THIS YEAR THAN ANY YEAR I'VE BEEN A COUNSELOR. WHEN STUDENTS ARE DYSREGULATED LEARNING HALTS, I BELIEVE OUR DISTRICT STRIVES TO SUPPORT THE WHOLE CHILD THAT WE WANT TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN OUTSTANDING CAMPUS STAFF BY MITIGATING BURNOUT, AND THAT MENTAL WELLNESS IS A PRIORITY. AS YOU CONSIDER BUDGETS AND STAFFING ALLOCATIONS FOR NEXT YEAR, PLEASE MAKE MENTAL HEALTH A PRIORITY BY IMPROVING OR AT LEAST MAINTAINING ESSER-FUNDED SCHOOL COUNSELOR RATIOS AS THEY ARE THIS YEAR. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS JILL FARRIS SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F1, H4, K4, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. [00:20:10] HI, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOARD GOALS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT. CURRENTLY, 56% OF OUR 2023 SENIORS ARE DEEMED COLLEGE, CAREER OR MILITARY READY. THAT MEANS THAT 44% OF OUR GRADUATING SENIORS AREN'T READY TO MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT STEPS OF THEIR LIFE, AND THIS IS WE'RE FAILING THESE KIDS. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS. WE'RE WOEFULLY OFF TRACK, AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANY BIG PLANS TO MAKE IT ANY BETTER. THE TRAJECTORY ISN'T CHANGING THE LIKE THE PERCENTAGE FROM THE GRADUATING CLASS OF 2022 AND OUR 2023, THE NUMBERS ARE ALMOST THE SAME. WE'RE NOT DOING ANY BETTER AND WE REALLY NEED TO BE. ACCORDING TO THIS MONTH'S COMMUNITY IMPACT, THE PLAN IS TO WORK WITH ACC TO OFFER MORE CLASSES, BUT THE PROBLEM ISN'T OFFERING THE CLASSES. THE STUDENTS ARE TAKING THE CLASSES. THE STUDENTS CAN'T PASS THE CLASSES THAT THEY'RE TAKING, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE NOT DEEMED COLLEGE READY, AND SO YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY CLASSES AS YOU WANT, BUT IF THESE KIDS ARE TAKING THE CLASSES AND THEY'RE FAILING THE CLASSES, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO CHECK THAT BOX, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, AND, AND I HAVE A SUGGESTION. MY SUGGESTION IS PLEASE STOP FOCUSING ON THE CLASSES AND THE CERTIFICATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT CHECK YOUR BOX AND GET YOU A GOLD STAR, BECAUSE THERE ARE STUDENTS, AND IF YOU FOCUS ON THE STUDENT, I THINK WE COULD DO A LOT BETTER. FOR EXAMPLE, DUE TO COVID, MY DAUGHTER MISSED HALF A SEMESTER OF ALGEBRA. SHE NEEDED TO RETAKE ALGEBRA. SHE DID TERRIBLE ON THE SAT BECAUSE SHE MISSED ALGEBRA. SHE WASN'T ALLOWED TO TAKE ALGEBRA AGAIN. THEY PUSHED HER INTO REMEDIAL MATH, AND THEN WHEN I SAID THAT SHE COULDN'T TAKE REMEDIAL MATH, THEY PUT HER AN AP STAT. IN NO WORLD IS MY DAUGHTER WHO CAN'T DO WELL ON THE MATH SAT. NEITHER OF THOSE CLASSES WAS A GOOD OPTION FOR HER, AND IF WE STOP JUST LOOKING AT WHAT FITS THE RIGHT BUCKET AND WHAT GETS YOU A GOLD STAR, I THINK WE CAN JUST DO SO MUCH BETTER FOR THESE KIDS. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS KLAUS SCHWAB JR. SPEAKING OFF OF THE AGENDA, AND YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. HELLO, MY PEASANTS. I'M KLAUS SCHWAB JR. MY FATHER IS SANTA KLAUS SR. HE RUNS THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM AT DAVOS. MY PRONOUNS ARE GOD UN DEITY, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE MORE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO DIFFERENT NUTRITION OPTIONS TO THE KINDER. I CAME HERE. I JUST LEFT DAVOS TO MAKE THIS. IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. I TOOK YOU OFF ALL I NEED TO GET BACK THERE, BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT MISSION. SEE, OUR FARM IS LIKE CORNUCOPIA, AND WE ARE ONLY EATING THE ANIMALS ABOVE THE LINE OF THE DIRT. WE NEED TO GO BELOW. WE NEED TO EAT THE BUGS, THE CRICKETS, THE EARTHWORMS. THIS IS MORE SUSTAINABLE FOR US. IN THE MOVIE THEATER, I WENT RECENTLY, PEOPLE WERE EATING THE POPCORN. I TOOK OUT MY CRICKETS. PEOPLE LOOK WEIRD OF THIS. A RAT GO BY TO EAT LIKE LEFTOVER POPCORN. I BREAK ITS NECK. I DRINK THE BLOOD OF THIS. THIS IS SUSTAINABILITY FOR YOU. NOBODY'S EATING [INAUDIBLE] OFF THE WALLS. THEY ARE JUST EATING LIKE THE PRE-MADE LITTLE HOTDOGS FOR YOU. THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR US, I THINK, TO REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS. YOU KNOW, HUMANS, FOR EXAMPLE, STUDENTS ARE MADE OF CARBON, LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE REALLY, REALLY STRESSFUL TEST FOR THEM OR THE ONES THAT DO NOT FAIL THIS, WE CAN MAKE LIKE SAUSAGE FOR YOU. SO THIS IS FOR THE SCHOOL LUNCHING TO BE MORE SUSTAINABLE. MODEST PROPOSAL, I KNOW, BUT THIS IS FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. GOOD BYE FOR NOW. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEJANDRO STRANGER. SPEAKING OF AGENDA AND YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, AND YOUR TIME HAS BEGUN. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. AS HIS EXCELLENCY KLAUS JUNIOR JUST SAID, WE ARE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, AND YOU GUYS KNOW THIS. I KNOW THIS. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS. YOU HAVE HIGH SCHOOL AGED KIDS, YOU HAVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLERS. THEY'RE GETTING FULL BLOWN HEART ATTACKS, AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. ALL RIGHT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED, OUR CHILDREN, THEY NEED A DIET THAT REFLECTS THESE ISSUES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT SOME SNACKS FOR YOU GUYS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FEED TO THE STUDENTS RIGHT HERE. I HAVE SOME GRASSHOPPERS. THEY ARE REALLY DELICIOUS. YEAH, THEY ARE REALLY GOOD, AND I ALSO. I BROUGHT SOME CONDIMENTS, THEY GO REALLY WELL WITH MUSTARD. [00:25:04] SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU DIP THE GRASSHOPPER IN THE MUSTARD. OH, THIS IS SO GOOD, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR CHILDREN NEED TO EAT. LIKE OUR CHILDREN. THEY NEED TO EAT SUSTAINABLE FOOD. WE ARE IN A CLIMATE EMERGENCY. I ALSO HAVE SOME MEALWORMS AS WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, LIKE OUR KIDS, THEY'RE THE FUTURE, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO EAT IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS THE GOALS OF OUR FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN HELP MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS. LISTEN, WE ARE IN A OH, MY GOD, THESE WORMS ARE SO DELICIOUS. I DON'T KNOW WHY OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT EATING SO GOOD AND THEY'RE SO HEALTHY AND THEY'RE SO SUSTAINABLE. PLEASE CONSIDER FEEDING THESE DELICIOUS SNACKS TO OUR KIDS. IF NOT FOR ME, THEN JUST DO IT FOR OUR PLANET. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TAMMY CONRAD, SPEAKING OFF THE AGENDA, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. CAN I WEAR THIS? MY NAME IS TAMMY CONRAD, AN EDUCATOR IN THE DISTRICT, AND I'M IN THE ROUND ROCK LEARNING COMMUNITY, AND I AM A MEMBER OF EDUCATION ROUND ROCK OUR STAFF UNION, AND WE DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING BOARD MEMBERS AND FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO. WE DO KNOW HOW MANY HOURS YOU PUT IN, AND WE DO KNOW YOU GET PAID NOTHING, BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME TO BE PREPARED FOR THESE MEETINGS AND TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND ASK QUESTIONS AND LISTEN TO EMPLOYEES AND STAFF AND STUDENTS. I AM HERE TO SHARE. I HAVE COPIES OF THIS FOR YOU ALL. IT'S TEXAS AFT'S LEGISLATIVE AGENDA SINCE THE SESSION HAS STARTED. THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, THE TEXAS PART OF IT HAS PUT THIS OUT FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND THE PRIORITIES IN HERE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION ARE VERY MUCH WHAT THE DISTRICT IS SUPPORTING, AND THE BIG ONE, OF COURSE, IS TO CHANGE THE WAY WE FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION. GOING FROM ATTENDANCE TO ENROLLMENT IS ONE THING. THERE'S ALSO THINGS ABOUT INCREASING STAFF PAY LOTS OF GOOD THINGS IN HERE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT OUR DISTRICT ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES TO SPEAK UP ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS, TO DO IT. WE'RE REAL CLOSE TO THE CAPITOL AND WE CAN GO THERE AND SPEAK OUT, BUT IT TAKES TIME TO TAKE OFF, BUT IN THIS AGENDA, I THINK IT'S ON PAGE NINE, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS ONLINE ABOUT BILLS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY COOL THING TO ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES TO DO. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WRITING LETTERS TO EDITORS. I DO THINK WE NEED TO SPEAK UP FOR OUR INSTITUTION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU GET BORED TONIGHT, YOU CAN GO TO PAGE SIX AND LOOK FOR ME. I'M IN THE PICTURE AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO DO FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERESA PALMER-GARRICK SPEAKING OFF THE AGENDA, BUT YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE, AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR HER TO COME UP, I DO APPRECIATE WHEN INDIVIDUALS WRITE THAT THEY ARE EMPLOYEES. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. SO THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW. HELLO, MY NAME IS TERESA PALMER-GARRICK. IN 1984 THROUGH 1987, I WAS A STUDENT AT CD FULKES MIDDLE SCHOOL GO LIZARDS. IN 2006, I STARTED MY CAREER AT ROUND ROCK ISD. FOR THE LAST 16 SCHOOL YEARS, I HAVE WORKED IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF. I WORK VERY HARD. I PUT IN LONG HOURS THAT STARTS SOMETIMES AT 4 A.M, AND SOMETIMES DO NOT END UNTIL 2 P.M. ON A FOOTBALL GAME NIGHT. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR RECENTLY APPROVING THE RETENTION BONUS AND OUR YEAR OF SERVICE BONUSES THIS YEAR, BUT I WOULD LIKE ONE THING CHANGED ON THE BONUS AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY, AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE PAYROLL ISSUE THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF. FIRST, I REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE US THE BONUSES ON SEPARATE CHECKS. THE LAST BONUS I RECEIVED PLACED ME IN A HIGHER TAX BRACKET, AND FOR THAT PAYCHECK I PAID AN ADDITIONAL $300 IN TAXES THAT WEEK ALONE. PLACING IT ON ITS OWN CHECK WOULD ALLOW ME TO HAVE MORE OF MY BONUS IN MY POCKET. SORRY. SECOND, I AM A BI MONTHLY EMPLOYEE. I GET PAID AROUND THE 15TH AND THE 31ST EACH MONTH. OUR PAYCHECKS USED TO BE DIVIDED MORE FAIRLY. MY NEXT PAYCHECK THAT WE GET AT THE END OF THIS MONTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A TWO WEEK PERIOD, BUT I WILL ONLY BE PAID FOR FIVE WORKDAYS. [00:30:01] TWO OF THOSE ARE HOLIDAY AND THE FIRST THREE DAYS OF THE NEW YEAR WHEN WE CAME BACK. WE NEED OUR PAYCHECKS TO BE NO LESS THAN EIGHT DAYS IN ORDER TO PAY OUR BILLS AND TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE WITH THIS ECONOMY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. NEXT IS KATIE KAISER SPEAKING OFF THE AGENDA, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. HI, WELL, I DEFINITELY WANT TO BACK UP WHAT SHE JUST SAID. THAT SOUNDS REALLY IMPORTANT. I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT SCHOOL BOARD APPRECIATION MONTH WAS A THING I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ACCESS EDUCATION TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU. THIS BOARD THAT WILL WORK TOWARD EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND WORK FOR ALL STUDENTS AND JUST REALLY HAPPIER UP THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THE EVENING IS FABIAN CUERO SPEAKING OFF THE AGENDA, AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO COME IN LAST TIME, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME. YOU DO AMAZING WORK. SO THANK YOU. LET'S GET ALL THE SCORES EVERYTHING WE'RE ABOUT THE KIDS, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN MOVING ON. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKING. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM F1, OUR LSG MONITORING REPORT. [F. SUPERINTENDENT REPORT] GOAL THREE GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES 3.1 AND 3.2. THIS IS OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES DISCUSSION FOR THE EVENING AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO DR. AZAIEZ. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT. [INAUDIBLE] WHATEVER. I WANT TO JUST ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAID EARLIER. I WANT TO REALLY SHARE ALSO MY APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE DOING EVERY DAY. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU SACRIFICE TO GET THIS JOB DONE, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR IT. SO WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT, AND I KNOW IT'S VERY HARD. SO ANYWAY, SO WITH US TONIGHT IS RYAN AND DR. NICHOLS AND NATALIE. SO THEY WILL GUIDE US THROUGH THE LSG REPORT FOR GOAL THREE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DOCTOR AZAIEZ, PRESIDENT LANDRUM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, IT IS MY PLEASURE TONIGHT TO SHARE SOME UPDATES CAN BE JOINED BY DR. NICHOLS AND DR. MUTSCHER AND DR. GUERRERO AS WELL. SO I'LL BE TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS IS A MID-YEAR UPDATE FOR THESE TWO GOLD PROGRESS MEASURES. THEY BOTH FEED UP INTO BOARD GOAL NUMBER THREE, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE DATA POINTS AND METRICS THAT ARE IN PLAY. AS THE SCHOOL YEAR GOES ON, WE WON'T HAVE FINAL DATA UNTIL THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND THEN MOVE FORWARD TO THE FIRST SLIDE. SO AS A REMINDER, THIS IS BOARD GOAL THREE, COLLEGE AND CAREER MILITARY READINESS, AND OUR TARGET FOR THAT OVERARCHING GOAL THIS YEAR IS 88% , AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL STUDENT GROUP TARGETS THAT WE HAVE SET, AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT TEA IS MAKING WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM, AND ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES BEING MADE THIS YEAR IS A RAISING OF THE A CUT SCORE OR THE LETTER A TO EARN AN A IN CCMR IS MOVING FROM A 60% TO AN 88%. SO I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT'S DEFINITELY A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, BUT OUR TARGET FOR THIS YEAR IS 88%. SO WE'RE STILL ALIGNED WITH SHOOTING FOR THAT A METRIC MOVING FORWARD THEN TO SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS EVENING, THE TWO GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. THE FIRST ONE IS GPM 3.1, AND THAT IS THE PERCENT OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO EARN CREDIT FOR ADVANCED COURSEWORK, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT FROM 63 TO 76% BY 2026, AND OUR TARGET FOR THIS YEAR IS 67%. OF COURSE, THAT'S EARNING CREDIT IN THE COURSE AND THE SCHOOL YEAR IS STILL GOING ON. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT ON THIS EVENING AND THEN GOAL PROGRESS MEASURE 3.2, WHICH IS THE PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS TESTING IS COLLEGE READY AND READING AND MATH AND WE'RE WORKING TO INCREASE THAT FROM 74 TO 92% BY 2026, AND OUR GOAL FOR THIS YEAR IS 80%. SO IN OUR NEXT SLIDE, I'M JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT STUDENTS QUALIFY FOR THESE TWO GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES. THE FIRST ONE THAT ADVANCED COURSE COMPLETION, THE COURSES THAT WE'RE TRACKING TO MEET THAT GOAL PROGRESS MEASURE IS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED IN AN AP CLASS, AN IB COURSE. OUR ADVANCED COURSES, ADVANCED COURSES USED TO BE CALLED PRE AP, BUT WE CALL THOSE ADVANCED. NOW, THOSE COURSES DON'T NECESSARILY COUNT FOR THAT FINAL CCMR NUMBER, BUT WE DO HAVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO ENCOURAGE ENROLLMENT IN THOSE COURSES IN NINTH AND 10TH GRADE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THE MORE STUDENTS JUMP INTO THOSE ADVANCED COURSES EARLY, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE THOSE AP IB COURSES, ONRAMPS, DUAL-CREDIT LATER ON IN THEIR CAREER. THE OTHER COURSES THAT WE TRACK FOR GPM 3.1 ARE DUAL CREDIT COURSES, AS WELL AS THAT ONRAMPS PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AND [00:35:07] THEN FOR THE COLLEGE READINESS IN READING AND MATH. THE WAY THAT STUDENTS EARN THOSE NUMBERS OR THOSE INDICATORS ARE A CERTAIN SCORE ON SAT/ACT, TSIA2 OR THERE'S ONE WE DON'T HAVE ON THERE, AND THAT'S THE COMPLETION OF THE COLLEGE PREP COURSE IN MATH OR ENGLISH AND THAT'S A COURSE THAT STUDENTS TAKE, AND IF THEY PASS THAT COURSE AND THEY PASS THE FINAL, THEN THEY ALSO ARE DEEMED COLLEGE READY IN THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT AREA. MOVING US FORWARD, THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT 3.1. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS ARE ACTUAL COMPLETION NUMBERS FOR STUDENTS WHO EARNED CREDIT IN ONE OR MORE ADVANCED COURSE, AND WE'VE GOT A THREE YEAR TREND THERE. FROM THE FIRST ONE ON THE LEFT IS 2019-2020, AND THEN 2020- 2021, THEN 21-22. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HOVERED RIGHT AROUND 63% FOR THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS, JUMPED LAST YEAR TO 65.3%, AND OF COURSE THAT'S OF COURSE COMPLETION. SO EARNING A PASSING SCORE IN THAT COURSE, AND THEN THE LAST NUMBER WE HAVE THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 67.5% OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED IN ONE OF THOSE ADVANCED COURSES, AND OUR END OF YOUR TARGET IS 67%. SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE ABOUT HALF A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO BE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. TYPICALLY, WE HAVE A GOOD PASSING RATE IN THOSE COURSES AND THAT NUMBER MOVES A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT MUCH. BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR. WE MIGHT HAVE SOME KIDS MOVE IN, SOME KIDS MOVE OUT, BUT AS FAR AS SCHEDULES, THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH SET. SO THAT ENROLLMENT, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR . OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST TWO YEARS BY STUDENT GROUP. SO, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 2022 NUMBER, THAT'S THE END OF YEAR. SO THAT COURSE COMPLETION AND THEN THE 2023 IS WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT CURRENTLY. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE CLOSE TO OUR INDIVIDUAL STUDENT GROUP TARGETS IN SOME AREAS; WE'RE A LITTLE BIT UNDER IN OTHERS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR TO YEAR TRENDS THAT WE'RE MOVING AND AGAIN, THAT NUMBER, THE 2023 NUMBER, COULD MOVE A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH OF OUR FIVE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND WHERE THEY'RE SITTING WITH THAT ADVANCED COURSE ENROLLMENT COMPARED TO THEIR TARGET, THE DIAMOND SHAPE THERE IS THEIR END OF YEAR TARGET THAT WAS SET. EXCUSE ME, AND SO OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN THEN TO GO PROGRESS MEASURE 3.2. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS WHO ARE TESTING AS COLLEGE READY AND READING AND MATH. SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING SIGNIFICANT TIME INTERNALLY WORKING THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT PROCESSES AND INTERVENTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EXTENSIVELY HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT ROOM TO GROW TO MEET THAT TARGET. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS PARTICULAR DATA VIEW RIGHT HERE IS THE SENIOR CLASS OF 2022. THAT'S THEIR END OF YEAR MAY 11TH SCORE. LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 56.2%, AND WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT CURRENTLY, THAT'S THE NUMBER IN THE MIDDLE AT 56.4%. SO SOME GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR UP TO THE NUMBER OF WHERE WE ENDED THE YEAR LAST YEAR. SO WE DO EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO RISE THROUGHOUT THE SPRING SEMESTER AS STUDENTS CONTINUE TO TAKE EITHER TSIA2 OR TAKE PART IN SOME OF THE OTHER INTERVENTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL LATER IN A LITTLE BIT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT THE TARGET THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR IS ABOUT 24 POINTS OFF, 24 PERCENTAGE POINTS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY FOCUS ON INTENTLY DURING THE SPRING SEMESTER TO GET CLOSER TO THAT TARGET. JUST FOR SOME INFORMATION, TOO. WE ENDED THE YEAR LAST YEAR AT 64%, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER ENDED. SO THE NUMBER THAT WE WILL REPORT AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE WON'T HAVE THAT FINAL NUMBER UNTIL AFTER GRADUATION BECAUSE, AGAIN, SOME OF THE STUDENTS MEET THAT COLLEGE READINESS THROUGH COMPLETION OF THAT COURSE, WHICH WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY GET UNTIL THE SCHOOL YEAR IS OVER. SO THIS FINAL NUMBER, WE WON'T HAVE UNTIL LATE MAY, EARLY JUNE. OUR NEXT SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS OUR INDIVIDUAL STUDENT GROUPS, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE'RE INTENTLY FOCUSING ON TO RAISE THOSE NUMBERS, AND AGAIN, THE 2022 NUMBER IS AN END OF YEAR METRIC AND THE 2023 IS AS OF DECEMBER 16TH. SO THAT SECOND BAR FOR EACH STUDENT GROUP IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW THROUGHOUT THE SPRING SEMESTER, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO HAVE AREAS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSING ON, AND THEN OUR NEXT SLIDE IS LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL, THE FIVE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES OF WHERE WE ARE ON EACH OF THOSE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AS WELL, WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON CONTINUALLY. WE HAVE SOME SCHOOLS THAT ARE PERFORMING IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE'RE GOING TO INTERVENE AND PUT IN SOME NEW PROCESSES THERE, AND SO I THINK WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, HAPPY TO BE [00:40:04] JOINED TONIGHT BY DR. NICHOLS AND A COUPLE OF OUR AREA SUPERINTENDENTS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE ON CAMPUSES. HELLO, EVERYONE, AND IT CAN'T BE SAID ENOUGH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED YOUR PASSION IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT, YOUR PASSION, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK, THE WAY IN WHICH YOU CHALLENGE THE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND PERCEPTIONS THAT YOU BRING BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCES, AND I WANT TO AGAIN SAY, THANK YOU. I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE WHOLE BOARD AND MEETING AND CONTINUE TO DO SO. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE HERE TONIGHT BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE IN PAST BOARD MEETINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING IS AN UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST OF THE OVERALL METRICS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD, BUT FOR YOU TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE SPECIFICALLY ON THE CAMPUSES AS WE'RE DOING THIS WORK AND ALSO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN OUR DISTRICT DEPARTMENTS AS AND HOW WE REACT TO THIS DATA AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY IS WE HAVE IN WORKING WITH DR. AZAIEZ CHANGE WHAT THE BOARDWALK PROCESS LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU VISIT CAMPUSES SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT THIS WORK LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY TIME WE DO A WALK, WHATEVER WE'RE PRESENTING ON IN THAT MONTH IS WHAT THEN WE WILL TAKE YOU ON VISITS AND SHOW YOU A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS AND CAMPUSES. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN BE BETTER INFORMED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR CAMPUSES SO THEY CAN SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, BUT ALSO AS THEY WORK WITH THEIR SPECIFIC CAMPUSES, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PUTTING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THESE GOALS HERE TONIGHT, I HAVE TWO OF MY ROCK STAR AREA SUPERINTENDENTS. THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE TEAM. THE REST OF THEM ARE IN THE AUDIENCE SUPPORTING AND THEY WILL REPRESENT THE TEAM IN TALKING THROUGH SPECIFICALLY WHAT SOME OF THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF US TO LISTEN TO IS, NUMBER ONE, THE WAY THAT WE ARE NOT STAYING STAGNANT. WHEN THE STATE CHANGED THAT, WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD TO CHANGE AS FAR AS GOAL SETTING AS WELL. WE IMMEDIATELY WENT INTO A PROCESS WHERE WE MET. WE CAME TOGETHER NOT ONLY AS A DISTRICT OFFICE AS FAR AS TO RETHINK OUR GOALS, BUT ALSO AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL TO BRING THE PRINCIPALS IN AND RE EVALUATE OUR GOALS AND RESET GOALS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE IS WANTING FROM US. WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT OUR MINDSET IN AND AROUND THIS GOAL SETTING, WHERE WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE, AND IF 88% IS WHAT THEY WANTED, WE WOULD AGGRESSIVELY GO AFTER MAKING SURE THAT EACH CAMPUS IS ABLE TO MEET THAT. ALSO, ONE OF THE BIG POINTS OF DISCUSSION IS IN REGARDS TO EQUITY. THERE'S A WAY THAT THE STATE SPECIFICALLY DEFINES EQUITY, AND IN LOOKING AT OUR GOALS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MEETING THOSE NEEDS. THE WAY TO DEFINE IT, WHETHER WE AGREE OR NOT, IS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE WHITE SCHOOL POPULATION AND OTHER POPULATIONS, AND WE CAN'T BE MORE THAN 10% OFF. SO WE AGGRESSIVELY WENT THROUGH AND MAKE SURE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT INTERVENTIONS, HOW CAN WE CLOSE THAT GAP EVEN WITHIN THE SCHOOL YEAR? SO YOU WILL HEAR OUR AREA SUPERINTENDENTS SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. ALSO NOTE, ALTHOUGH WE ARE GOING THROUGH GPM 3.1 AND 3.2, OUR AREA SUPERINTENDENTS WILL BE SPEAKING HOLISTICALLY ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT GPMS AND HOW THAT'S COMING TOGETHER UNDER BOARD GOAL THREE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT MOST OF OUR STUDENTS, IF NOT ALL, ARE LEAVING OUR CAMPUSES WHERE THEY'RE COLLEGE READY. RYAN HAS SPOKEN TO THE FACT THAT, HEY, WITHIN THOSE PRESENTATIONS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE PROGRESS MEASURES FOR. WE DON'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO HOW THAT LOOKS FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES ENJOY HIGHER NUMBERS THAN OTHERS, AND SOME OF THESE INTERVENTIONS AND THE WAY WE CAN GO ABOUT BECOMING COLLEGE READY MAY NOT WORK FOR THAT POPULATION. SO YOU WILL HEAR OUR AREA SUPERINTENDENTS SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL AS WELL, ALSO SOME SHORT TERM THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE FUTURE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GIVE IT OVER TO DR. GUERRERO AND ALSO TO DR. MUTSCHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. NICHOLS. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT LANDRUM, DR. AZAIEZ, BOARD MEMBERS. I SIMPLY WANT TO REITERATE OUR TRUE GRATITUDE FOR ALL YOU DO FOR ROUND ROCK ISD, FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF. YOU TRULY ARE APPRECIATED AND WE RECOGNIZE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. [00:45:02] SO THANK YOU. WITH THAT SAID, YOU MIGHT HEAR US ECHO A LOT OF WHAT MR. SMITH AND DR. NICHOLS HAVE ALREADY SAID, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY REALLY HARD TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO STRATEGICALLY PLAN FOR COHORT 2023, OUR SENIORS, OUR CURRENT SENIORS, AND THEN CLOSE OUT WITH LOOKING AHEAD OF OUR OTHER COHORTS. SO AS MR. SMITH MENTIONED, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF NEW ACCOUNTABILITY MEASUREMENTS ANNOUNCED IN DECEMBER. ON DECEMBER IN DECEMBER, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC FOR THE 88% RELATED TO CCMR, AND ON DECEMBER 8TH, WE DID CONVENE PRINCIPALS, COUNSELORS AND CTE LEADS TO REVIEW UPDATES AND REALLY REVISIT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO PLAN FOR SUCCESS FOR EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS THAT PERHAPS HAD NOT ATTAINED CMR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT YOU HAVE MET BEFORE THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH [INAUDIBLE] PARTNERS, CAME TO THE TABLE, JOINED US FOR A DEEP DIVE INTO THE NEW ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES. SO WE ENSURED THAT ALL OF OUR CAMPUS LEADERS WERE WELL INFORMED. ON JANUARY 12TH, WE RETURNED DURING THE PRINCIPALS MEETING AND FACILITATED AN EXERCISE TO UPDATE OUR CAMPUS OVERALL TARGETS TO MEET THE NEW TEA ACCOUNTABILITY TARGETS FOR CCMR OF AGAIN, 88%. SOME OF THE GUIDING PROMPTS THAT WE HAD FOR OUR CAMPUS LEADERS INCLUDED ENSURING BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM BY INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS. SO EVERY STUDENT SERVED ON OUR CAMPUSES THAT CAMPUSES WERE GOING TO THEIR TARGETS NEEDED TO AGGREGATE TO MEET OR EXCEED THAT 88% TARGET. AS WE DELVED INTO THAT DATA REVIEW, PRINCIPALS EXAMINED WHICH STUDENT GROUP TARGETS HAD ALREADY BEEN MET AND WHICH STUDENT TARGETS WOULD REQUIRE SOME INTERVENTION SUPPORTS ON CAMPUSES TO GET CLOSER TO THAT 88% TARGET OR ABOVE. AGAIN, DR. MUTSCHER AND I ARE HERE BECAUSE SPECIFICALLY WE KNEW THAT AT STONY POINT HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAD 56% OF OUR STUDENTS THAT HAD ATTAINED CCMR AND CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL AT 65. SO WE KNOW WE HAVE WORK TO DO, AND THUS THE TEAM HAS DELVED IN TO REVAMP OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED ARE ARE ENOUGH STUDENTS ENROLLED IN COLLEGE PREP COURSES TO REACH THE CAMPUS GOAL? AND SO DR. MUTSCHER WILL SHORTLY SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE SPECIFICITY OF THOSE PREP COURSES AND ALSO BEING VERY STRATEGIC AND SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW WE WILL DEVELOP AND MONITOR THOSE INDIVIDUALIZED INTERVENTION PLANS FOR EACH OF OUR STUDENTS. WITH THAT, DR. MUTSCHER. THANK YOU, DR. GUERRERO, AND THANK YOU BOARD. I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR OUR STUDENTS, STAFF AND FAMILIES. SO I WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE CAMPUS PLANS LOOK LIKE AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT ADMINISTRATION AND COUNSELORS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE PAST SIX WEEKS. TO START WITH, WE UTILIZE THE TOOLS FROM OUR ASSESSMENT DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY THE CCMR TRACKER, AND THAT WAS PRESENTED BY ERICA AND HER TEAM PROBABLY A FEW MONTHS BACK WHERE THEY DISPLAYED WHAT THE NEW CMR TRACKER WILL LOOK LIKE. THAT HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHICH STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY MET THIS REQUIREMENT AND WHICH STUDENTS HAVEN'T, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS. SO SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT COLLEGE READINESS IN EITHER MATH OR ELA. SO FROM THAT LIST, COUNSELORS WERE ABLE TO CREATE CLASSES, AND I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE CLASSES ARE SPECIFICALLY A PARTNERSHIP WITH ACC THAT WILL ALLOW FOR STUDENTS TO REACH THAT COLLEGE READINESS STANDARD FOR ELA AND FOR MATH THROUGH COMBINATION OF THE CLASS AS WELL AS A PROJECT OR A FINAL IN THAT CLASS. SO THE COUNSELORS CREATE THOSE CATEMA ACCOUNTS AND CLASSES, AND THEN WE ASSIGN THOSE SPECIFIC STUDENTS TO THOSE CLASSES, AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESS, THOUGH, RIGHT? SO WE REGISTER STUDENTS FOR THOSE CATEMA ACCOUNTS IN CLASSES, BUT THEN THE STUDENTS HAVE TO GO IN AS WELL AND REGISTER SO THAT IT SHOWS UP ON ACC'S ROSTER. SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT ALIGNMENT. SO THEY SHOW UP ON BOTH THE ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENT ACCOUNTABILITY SIDE, BUT THEY ALSO SHOW UP ON ACC BECAUSE IF A STUDENT WAS IN THE CLASS BUT THEY NEVER REGISTERED WITH [00:50:01] ACC, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT CREDIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW UP WITH ACC. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE US THE CREDIT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SIGNED UP IN BOTH AREAS AND THAT THOSE MATCH. LET'S SEE HERE. IN ADDITION TO THE CATEMA CLASSES, STUDENTS WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO OBTAIN CCMR CREDIT THROUGH TAKING THE TSIA2 EXAM, AND WHAT WE ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY AT CEDAR RIDGE AND AT STONY POINT IS WE'RE UTILIZING OUR FLEX TIME, WHICH IS RAIDER HOUR OR RAIDER TIME AND TIGER TIME AT STONY POINT. WE'RE UTILIZING THAT TIME FOR SPECIFIC TUTORING IN TSIA2 SO THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO TAKE AND COMPLETE THESE EXAMS. WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING THIS WITH THE PARENTS AND STUDENTS ABOUT THESE CHANGES AND THESE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. IN ADDITION, THE STRATEGIC PLANS FOR PROGRESS MONITORING AND INTERVENTIONS. I'LL JUST KIND OF RECAP IT HERE. SO ALL THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE TSIA2 AGAIN; THEY'LL HAVE THE TUTORING AND THEY'LL HAVE TESTING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS WILL BE ENROLLED IN THE CATEMA COLLEGE PREP CLASSES IN CONJUNCTION WITH ACC, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THEM FINISH THEIR PROJECTS AND TESTS AROUND THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL SO THAT ANY STUDENT THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL WILL STILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIX WEEKS TO REMEDY AND INTERVENE WITH THEM SO THAT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LIST OF STUDENTS ELIGIBLE FOR IBCS, THE INDUSTRY BASED CERTIFICATIONS, AND ALSO STUDENTS IN SPECIAL EDUCATION THAT CAN QUALIFY THROUGH CBVI, WHICH IS COMMUNITY BASED VOCATIONAL INSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A CAREER CREDIT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE, AND IT'S DEVELOPED THROUGH A STUDENT'S IEP, AND CREDIT IS GIVEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND AS DR. NICHOLS MENTIONED EARLIER, FOR CAMPUSES THAT ENJOY A HIGHER POPULATION OF SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS, THIS IS ONE MORE ALTERNATIVE THAT WE HAVE THAT ALLOWS STUDENTS TO RECEIVE THAT CCMR CREDIT. TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN AND THE TRUE COLLECTIVE ENERGY REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET EVERY STUDENT'S NEEDS, I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT CCMR IS NOT NEW TO US. WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY AND I DO ALSO WANT TO SHARE THAT OUR CURRICULUM DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY DESIGNED AN AMAZING TIMELINE. SO WE HAVE A MONTHLY TIMELINE THAT WAS SHARED AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH OUR ENGLISH FOR TEACHERS. OUR ENGLISH DEPARTMENT CHAIRS. OUR MATH DEPARTMENT CHAIRS ARE ASSOCIATE PRINCIPALS AND OUR LEAD COUNSELORS TO HELP GUIDE OUR CAMPUS LEADERSHIP TEAMS ON THE PROCESS FOR REGISTRATION AND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INTERVENTIONS AVAILABLE FOR OUR SENIOR STUDENTS. STUDENTS, AGAIN, HAVE BEEN ALREADY COMMUNICATE--WE'VE STARTED THE ONE ON ONE COMMUNICATION. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE FORMAL COMMUNICATION COMING OUT NEXT WEEK. PARENTS HAVE STARTED TO BE CONTACTED INDIVIDUALLY, AND THEN THERE ARE LETTERS THAT OUR PRINCIPALS ARE PREPARING TO GET OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE FROM A VARIETY OF FORMS, AND AGAIN, AS DR. MUTSCHER MENTIONED, THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT PATHWAYS FOR COMPLETING INTERVENTION PROGRAMS TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF SUCCESS. I DO ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT HOUSE BILL V DOES REQUIRE THIS PROCESS FOR ALL SENIORS THAT HAVE NOT MET REQUIREMENTS FOR COLLEGE READINESS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF OUR CAMPUS LEADERS WERE INFORMED OF ON THAT TIMELINE AND JUST A MEASURE SO THAT AND WHY THE CREATION OF THESE INTERVENTIONS AND WHY WE ALREADY HAD SOME COURSE PREP COURSES IN LINE. SO AS DR. NICHOLS MENTIONED, ALTHOUGH WE'RE FOCUSED TONIGHT ON GPM, 3.1 AND 3.2, WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO GIVE THE BIGGER PICTURE FOR THAT GOAL. THREE, TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET THE TEA TARGET OF 88% OR LIKE I LIKE TO SAY IN ROUND ROCK ISD OR BETTER THROUGHOUT THE SECOND SEMESTER, OUR CTCS, SO OUR TESTING COORDINATORS COMMUNICATE ABOUT STUDENTS WHO HAVE TESTED TSIA2 AND HAVE MET THE READINESS CRITERIA. YOU HEARD DR. MUTSCHER SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A VARIETY OF OPPORTUNITIES. WE ARE GOING TO BE TESTING TSIA1 REGULARLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND SO AS SOON AS KIDS MEET THAT CRITERIA, THEN [00:55:01] OF COURSE WE'RE CELEBRATING AND COMMUNICATING WITH STUDENTS AND FAMILIES AND OF COURSE UPDATING OUR DATA. I WANTED TO ALSO NOTE THAT THE DATA SLIDE YOU HAD, WE'VE ALREADY ADVANCED ON BOTH CAMPUSES BY ABOUT 2% IS WHAT I NOTICED RECENTLY. SO CAMPUS MONITORING TEAMS ARE REVIEWING CCMR CAMPUS STUDENT LISTS OR SPREADSHEETS. SO EACH CAMPUS ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING TO STONY POINT AND CEDAR RIDGE TONIGHT, WE HAVE DETAILED SPREADSHEETS WHERE WE ARE TRACKING EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR EACH STUDENT. SO INDIVIDUAL PLANS. THE ADMINISTRATION REVIEWS THESE UPDATES WEEKLY. OUR COUNSELING TEAMS ARE IN POD TYPES OF TEAMS. I KNOW THAT'S NOT A POSITIVE TERM, BUT THIS IS REALLY A STRATEGIC SUPPORT TEAM THAT BIWEEKLY IS REVIEWING THE STUDENT PROGRESS AND IF THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL NEED FOR A ONE ON ONE, THEN OUR COUNSELORS DEPLOY AND ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. AREA SUPERINTENDENT DR. MUTSCHER, MYSELF, AS WELL AS OUR COLLEAGUES, ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR CAMPUS TEAMS TO REVIEW PROGRESS MONITORING DATA SO WE HAVE A SCHEDULE TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE MEETING WITH OUR CAMPUS LEADERSHIP TEAMS AND WE ARE SCHEDULING WALKTHROUGHS OF THE INTERVENTION COURSES AND PROGRAMMING. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALSO SCHEDULED SOME INVITES FOR SOME OF YOU TO COME OUT AND SEE THE WORK AROUND CCMR. TEACHING AND LEARNING: OUR TEACHING AND LEARNING TEAM HAS BEEN VITAL HERE AS WELL AS OUR EVALUATION TEAM. THEY HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORTS FOR MONITORING THE WORK WITH RESOURCES OR CURRICULUM SUPPORT , AND ALSO, AS DR. MUTSCHER MENTIONED, ERICA SIMMONS AND HER TEAM WITH THE CURRENT DATA REPORTS AND OUR AND OUR SCREENERS, BUT ALSO JUST UPDATING THAT DATA AND THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN GREAT PARTNERS BECAUSE WHATEVER WE NEED, THEY'VE RESPONDED IN SUCH A POSITIVE LIGHT. SO THANK YOU, ERICA. TRAVIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DOCTOR GUERRERO. SO WE GAVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO SUMMARIZE A TIMELINE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, SO YOU HAVE IT. SO JANUARY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ENROLLED AND WE'RE CURRENTLY ENROLLING ALL STUDENTS THAT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN A CATEMA COLLEGE PREP CLASS. SO THAT WILL LOOK LIKE A ZERO HOUR FOR ELA AND WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR ENGLISH IV CLASS AND THEN FOR THE COLLEGE PREP CLASS, IT'LL BE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. TSIA TESTING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THAT WILL BE HAPPENING OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, SPECIFICALLY AT STONY POINT, FEBRUARY 24TH AT CEDAR RIDGE, FEBRUARY 20TH, AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THE SAT DAY ON MARCH 1ST, THE TSIA2 TESTING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF OUR SENIORS ON MARCH 1ST AS WELL. THAT'S THE TWO THE BIG ONES THAT WE'VE SCHEDULED, BUT THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE SEMESTER. WHEN WE REACH APRIL, WELL, LET ME SHIFT GEARS SO THAT TUTORING WILL BE SPECIFIC FOR TSIA2, SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT CREDIT KNOCKED OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S OUR GOAL FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT AREN'T SUCCESSFUL ON TSIA2 WE ALREADY HAVE THEM ENROLLED IN A CLASS FOR A COLLEGE PREP. AFTER MARCH 1ST WE'LL SHIFT FOCUS ONTO THE CATEMA STUDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO NOT ONLY PASS THEIR CLASS, BUT PASS THAT FINAL REQUIREMENT FROM ACC AS WELL. SO THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE COMPLETED IN EARLY APRIL, AND THEN ANY STUDENT THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL ON THAT PROJECT IN APRIL WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIX WEEKS TO INTERVENE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO BASED ON THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY OBTAINED CREDIT AND THOSE THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THESE PLANS WILL ALLOW US TO PROGRESS FROM 56% AT STONY POINT, 66% AT CEDAR RIDGE TO OBTAIN THE OVERALL GOAL FOR CCMR OF 88% OR GREATER FOR THAT COHORT OF 2023, AND FROM THE DATA THAT WE'VE REVIEWED, WE ACTUALLY FEEL THAT IT WILL GO BEYOND THAT AND WE WILL REACH 93% AT STONY POINT AND 95% AT CEDAR RIDGE. WE'LL BE ACTIVELY AND AGGRESSIVELY MONITORING AND PURSUING THIS INTERVENTIONS, AS YOU HEARD DR. GUERRERO MENTIONED EARLIER, AND JUST AS WE CLOSE, WE DID WANT TO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE INTO LOOKING AHEAD. YOU HEARD ME SAY CCMR IS NOT NEW TO US, AND EVEN PRIOR TO TEA'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE CHANGES IN ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES, OUR TEAMS HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, MEANING THAT WE ALSO TOOK A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT'S PREVENTING STUDENTS FROM NOT BEING AS SUCCESSFUL ON TSIA [01:00:09] TESTING AND ONE INDICATOR THAT WE DISCOVERED WAS BECAUSE WE WERE TESTING LATER INTO THEIR JUNIOR YEAR AND WELL INTO JUNIOR YEAR, THEY WERE TOO FAR REMOVED FROM GEOMETRY, AND WE WERE MISSING A LOT OF THE STANDARDS THAT WERE COVERED THROUGH GEOMETRY. SO OUR CAMPUSES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO BEGINNING EARLY TSIA2 TESTING AT THE END OF THE GEOMETRY COURSE COMPLETION IN ENGLISH II. SO THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF SOPHOMORES. WE COULD ALSO HAVE FRESHMEN, BUT STARTING EARLIER THAT ALLOWS US MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE AND OTHER PATHWAYS STUDENTS CAN TAKE FOR THE DURATION OF THE TIME THAT THEY'RE WITH US. IN THE LONG TERM, WE HAVE PLANS TO BEGIN THIS WORK AS EARLY AS EIGHTH GRADE IN THE FUTURE SO THAT STUDENTS ARE PREPARED TO TAKE COLLEGE LEVEL CLASSES AS EARLY AS THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR. THAT'S A LITTLE EARLY. SO STILL AND I SEE DR. AZAIEZ NODDING FIRMLY SO THAT MORE OF THAT IS TO COME. WE ARE ALREADY MONITORING EACH COHORT, A MINIMUM OF A QUARTERLY TIME. SO WE ALREADY KNOW YOU CAN SEE ON OUR DASHBOARD WHERE OTHER COHORTS ARE, AND SO AGAIN, AS DR. MUTSCHER SAID, WE'RE FAR MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THE MONITORING PIECE AND I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S LOOKING AHEAD FOR ALL OF OUR FUTURE COHORTS. WE DO, AS DR. NICHOLS SAID, WE HAVE A GOAL OF EQUITY BY ENSURING THAT THERE IS LESS THAN TEN 10% GAP BETWEEN OUR WHITE STUDENT GROUP AND OTHER STUDENT GROUPS, WHICH IS THE WAY THE STATE DEFINES EQUITY. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF OUR TEAMS BECAUSE WE HAVE LOOKED AT STUDENTS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS, SO REALLY LOOKED AT OUR STUDENTS, AND I'M JUST PROUD OF OUR COUNSELORS THAT KNOW OUR STUDENTS BY NAME, OUR ADMINISTRATORS, AND THE FACT THAT OUR MATH TEACHERS ARE JUMPING IN, AND DR. MUTSCHER MENTIONED THAT FLEX TIME, THEY'VE ALL TAKEN IN APPROXIMATELY 15 TO 20 STUDENTS DURING THOSE FLEX TIMES WHERE THEY'RE JUST COMPLETELY COMMITTED TO OUR STUDENTS. WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DR. NICHOLS AND AWAIT QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WELL, DR. GUERRERO HAS SAID IT ALL. WE ARE NOW READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I'M SURE THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, AND THE FIRST LIGHT IS TRUSTEE WEIR. OKAY, ACTUALLY, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES CATEMA STAND FOR SOMETHING? OF COURSE, IT STANDS FOR SOMETHING. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP, TO BE HONEST. WE CAN SEND THAT TO YOU. [CHUCKLING] I JUST, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF ACRONYMS, AND THAT WAS A NEW ONE, SO I HAD NO IDEA. I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS SORT OF GENERAL PAGE EIGHT AND NINE. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THOSE ARE KIND OF SPRING NUMBERS ALREADY FOR THIS GROUP THAT WE HAVE. RIGHT. SO WE AND I HEARD SOME GREAT NUMBERS OVER THERE GOING, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? IT IS CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION AND MANAGEMENT APPLICATION. CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION MANAGEMENT APPLICATION, AND IF I CAN CLARIFY WHY SAYS CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY IS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE TOOL THAT WE USE TO COMMUNICATE THE GRADE WITH ACC IT'S KIND OF BUILT AROUND CTE, BUT IT'S ALSO USED FOR THIS APPLICATION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, AND I HEARD SORT OF THE NUMBERS FROM STONY POINT AND CEDAR RIDGE, WHICH SOUNDS AMAZING TO GO UP TO 93%. I GUESS SORT OF OVERALL, MY QUESTION INITIALLY AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS ON PAGE EIGHT WAS WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING BY THE END OF THE YEAR. ARE YOU EXPECTING TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR LIKE 3.2, ARE WE EXPECTING TO GET UP TO OUR GOALS IN ALL OF THOSE OR I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADVANCED COURSEWORK THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY REGISTERED FOR ADVANCED COURSEWORK. EXACTLY, AND SO THE TIME PERIOD IN ORDER TO SOME OF THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC FOR A TIME PERIOD OPPORTUNITY IN ORDER TO GROW THAT NUMBER IN REGARDS TO BOARD GOAL 3.2, THE COLLEGE READINESS, WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY IN THE SPRING AND SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE COURSE AND ALSO THROUGH THE TSIA2 TESTING. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT NUMBER GO UP AS WELL. THIS IS OUR WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THAT NUMBER. IF I MIGHT ADD [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER THING IS ALSO AS A DISTRICT, OUR GOAL GOAL THREE, OUR BOARD GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE COLLEGE CAREER OR [01:05:02] MILITARY READY. RIGHT? SO I THINK A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION KIND OF LIKE CIRCLED AROUND 3.2, WHICH IS COLLEGE READINESS AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT MORE OF OUR STUDENTS TO BE COLLEGE READY, BUT WE ALSO KNOW SOME OF THEM MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE AMBITION OR WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT THEY WANT TO MAYBE GO TO A DIFFERENT CAREER. SO THAT WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE INDUSTRY CERTIFICATION THAT IS 3.3 THAT WE DID NOT DISCUSS TONIGHT, OR IT COULD BE SOME OF OUR STUDENTS MAY NOT EARN THAT CCMR THROUGH THE 3.2 GPM, BUT RATHER WITH THE 3.1, WHICH IS THAT'S WHEN THEY TAKE THEIR AP COURSES. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE RIGHT NOW TAKING AP COURSES, DUAL-CREDIT, BUT BECAUSE DID NOT TAKE THE TEST YET OR DID NOT FINISH THE SEMESTER, SO THEY DID NOT EARN THAT CREDIT YET. SO SO WE EXPECT 3.1 ALSO NUMBERS TO GO HIGHER, BUT OVERALL, WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE COLLEGE CAREER MILITARY READY NOW IF WE CAN HAVE THEM LIKE COLLEGE, MILITARY AND INDUSTRY BASED CERTIFICATION, ALL THREE, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT REALLY SOME STUDENTS ONLY NEED ONE AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT PATHWAY LINED UP FOR THEM, AND SO OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST THEY'RE PREPARED FOR ONE OF THOSE PATHWAYS. TRUSTEE HARRISON. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THIS IS MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION OR A REQUEST, SO WE WOULD NEED KIND OF BOARD AGREEMENT SO WE GET AN EXPANDED REPORT, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS DECK, IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE MIDYEAR, AND SO MAYBE AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT WITH MORE ROBUST DATA BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE STUDENT CATEGORIES THAN WE EVER HAD BEFORE. LOOKING TO IMPROVE NEXT YEAR, CAN WE COMPARE MIDDLE OF YEAR TO MIDDLE OF YEAR? BECAUSE IT'S JUST THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ALARM THERE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THERE QUITE YET. SURE, AND I'M IN THE EXACT SAME BOAT, GOING THROUGH TODAY, LIKE WE DIDN'T HAPPEN TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A SET ADOPTED BOARD MONITORING CALENDAR, YOU KNOW THAT AS LONG AS WE STAY CONSISTENT WITH THAT, EACH YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE REPORTING ON THE SAME GPM AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ANNUAL DATA TO LOOK AT. OKAY, THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET BOARD AGREEMENT ON? DO I HAVE CONSENSUS? I SEE ENOUGH HEADS NODDING ON THAT ONE. I JUST THINK THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE OF THE DATA. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR PULLING MORE ROBUST DATA. I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NECESSARILY DONE BEFORE, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. MY CURIOSITY IS, YES, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ESPECIALLY FOR 3.1 FOR RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH ADVANCED COURSEWORK, BUT THIS IS COURSE SELECTION TIME. SO WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR 2023, 2024 AND HOW ARE WE IMPROVING UPON THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HIT IT, BUT HOW ARE WE IMPROVING UPON THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR? USUALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND I HAVE NOT GONE SPECIFICALLY TO THE CAMPUS, BUT THEY DO THAT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR NIGHTS, WHERE THEY'RE LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW, HERE'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE, HERE'S WHAT THESE DIFFERENT COURSES LOOK LIKE AND WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT FEARS. SO IT'S MORE SO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND I KNOW ALSO THROUGH OUR ADVANCED PAGE, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AS FAR AS HERE ARE THE COURSES YOU SHOULD TAKE. HERE'S HOW THEY WORK. I THINK THEY DO A LOT OF WORK. NOT I THINK, I KNOW THEY DO A LOT OF WORK IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT THE DIFFERENT ADVANCED CLASSES ARE AND WHAT STUDENT WOULD BE BEST FOR IT. SO IF YOU'RE NERVOUS ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, ADVANCED COURSEWORK AND YOU WANT TO TRY IT ON FOR SIZE, YOU MAY TAKE A DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSE WHERE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY THEN TO DENY THE CREDIT AND NOT HAVE IT ON YOUR TRANSCRIPT, IF THE GRADE IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT. SO WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH A LOT OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS THEY GO INTO GREAT DEPTH AS FAR AS TO EXPLAIN THAT DURING THIS TIME WHEN THEY HAVE WHEN THEY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S ON THE COURSE REQUEST SHEET AND WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE STUDENTS TO TAKE AND SO THAT IS MORE SO CONTROLLED THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, TRUSTEE HARRISON, I THINK THE OTHER THING IS ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE DASHBOARD WE SHARED WITH YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. NOW, WHILE OUR TEACHERS, OUR STAFF, OUR COUNSELORS HAVE ACCESS TO TRACK DIFFERENT COHORT STARTING AT THE FRESHMAN YEAR SO THEY CAN WITH THE CLICK OF A BUTTON, THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR FRESHMEN GROUP AND SEE HOW MANY OF THEM ALREADY EARNED IT OR ARE ON TRACK TO EARN IT, AND SO I THINK THE TRACKING ITSELF AND STARTING EARLY, TRACKING IT AND COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE KIDS, I THINK, DR. GUERRERO MENTIONED WE HAVE TO INDIVIDUALIZE THE PLAN FOR EVERY STUDENT. I THINK THAT'S KEY. WE SHOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL THE SENIOR YEAR REALLY TO KIND OF KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE LIKE BEHIND. [01:10:06] WE SHOULD BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND REALLY STARTING OUT THE FRESHMAN YEAR, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR OUR STUDENTS AND MAKING SURE AGAIN, THEIR COLLEGE CAREER OR MILITARY READY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. TO PIGGYBACK OFF YOUR QUESTION, I STILL REMEMBER A PRESENTATION THAT YOU GAVE, DR. NICHOLS, BACK IN 2019 ABOUT ADVANCED MATH IN THE STONY POINT LEARNING COMMUNITY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY REMEMBER FROM THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU DID IN ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO FAMILIES AND ENGAGING THEM IN, YOU KNOW, KIDS WHO MIGHT BE ON THE CUSP OF TAKING AN ADVANCED LEVEL MATH IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT YET THEY DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU GUYS REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE THEM. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? OKAY. SO I REMEMBER FROM WHEN I HAD TWO KIDS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS INVITED TO ATTEND THE COUNSELOR'S APPOINTMENT WITH YOUR SCHEDULING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, BUT ARE WE STILL DOING THE SAME KIND OF OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TO GET THESE KIDS AND THEIR PARENTS INVOLVED IN THESE DISCUSSION IN THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL ACROSS THE BOARD? WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS MORE TO COME. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING WEEKLY MEETINGS IN AND AROUND THIS, THE CHANGE OF ALL OF OUR PROCESSES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT UNLESS WE ENGAGE DIFFERENTLY AS AN ENTIRE DISTRICT IN REGARDS TO OUR TRANSITION POINTS, THAT THIS WILL NOT CHANGE, AND THAT PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS REALLY TO EDUCATE OUR PARENTS BECAUSE THERE'S A TRUST AND WE LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY TRUST US, BUT PART OF THAT IS TO EDUCATE THEM AS FAR AS EXACTLY WHAT THESE THINGS MEANT FOR ME BASED ON MY BACKGROUND, MY PARENTS WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN OR ADVOCATED FOR CERTAIN COURSES, AND I COULD HAVE LITERALLY JUST TAKEN WHAT I WANTED AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE MATTERED AAND SO WE WILL BE PART OF THE PLAN AS FAR AS TALKING WITH DR. DARDEN AND WORKING WITH THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS IS SPECIFICALLY AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN TEACHING AND LEARNING IS WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A COGENT PLAN THAT WE PUSH OUT AND SAY, HERE'S YOUR RESOURCES, SO EVERYONE IS DOING THAT AROUND THOSE TRANSITION POINTS, AND A HEAVY PART OF THAT WILL BE IN AND AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE COUNSELING TO EDUCATE THOSE PARENTS. AS OF RIGHT NOW, I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT WE CONSISTENTLY HAVE THAT ACROSS ALL LEARNING COMMUNITIES, BUT THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL TOGETHER AND STREAMLINE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GIVE THEM THE DATA FOR AND A PROCESS FOR. I MIGHT ADD ALSO TO WHAT DR. NICHOLS WAS SAYING, I KNOW I MEAN, SHE MENTIONED DR. DARDEN, AND I KNOW MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE] IS HERE, TOO. I KNOW BECAUSE I HAD A CONVERSATION LAST YESTERDAY EVENING. I HAD A MEETING WITH OUR VOICE STUDENTS, THE VOICE GROUP, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADVANCED ACADEMIC, AND ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS TODAY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM KIND OF LIKE WHAT DR. NICHOLS WAS SAYING, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A MATTER OF EDUCATING OUR PARENTS, BUT SOMETIMES OUR STUDENTS DON'T KNOW, AND SO WE WERE HAVING THIS GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT, AND ONE OF THE COOL THINGS THEY WERE DOING IS ACTUALLY SHE STARTED SOMETHING CALLED AMBASSADORS, ADVANCED ACADEMIC AMBASSADORS, WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH VIDEOS AND HOW WE CAN ADVERTISE AND TALK AND EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS REALLY EARLY. I'M TALKING ABOUT AS EARLY AS MIDDLE SCHOOL, POSSIBLY NO LATER THAN FRESHMAN YEAR. SO WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? WHY IT'S A GOOD THING TO TAKE ADVANCED ACADEMIC COURSES, IN PARTICULAR DUAL CREDIT OR ONRAMPS AND WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A DUAL CREDIT COURSE VERSUS, LET'S SAY, AN ONRAMPS COURSE? RIGHT, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO DO MORE TO DO, BUT I'M EXCITED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE ALREADY STARTING WORKING ON ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, AND WHEN WE'RE READY TO GET EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND PROBABLY SHARE MORE DETAILS ABOUT ALL THESE COOL THINGS WE'RE DOING, BUT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE PARENTS, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS AND ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES RIGHT FOR THEMSELVES SOMETIMES. MAY I JUST ADD, I KNOW THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE PRESIDENT LANDRUM, YOU BRINGING UP DR. NICHOLS' WORK AT THE STONY POINT LEARNING COMMUNITY, AND THOUGH SHE HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY SYSTEMATIZE A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, YOU HEARD US MENTION THAT IT REALLY STARTS EARLIER, AND I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE WORK IS HAPPENING IN BIG POCKETS ACROSS THE DISTRICT. JUST TODAY WE HAD FIFTH GRADERS AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE CEDAR RIDGE LEARNING COMMUNITY. I WAS AT ONE OF MY ELEMENTARIES AND WE WERE CONVERSING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE, ONE, WE WERE GOING TO RECORD THE PARENT PRESENTATION FOR OUR PARENTS THAT COULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE. TWO, WE WERE VERY SPECIFICALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT COLLEGE READINESS PATH SO THAT STUDENTS ARE [01:15:02] TAKING COLLEGE LEVEL COURSEWORK OR ADVANCED COURSEWORK ONCE THEY HIT THAT EIGHTH GRADE YEAR AND INTO HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE REALLY ARE PROUD OF THE WORK BECAUSE WE'RE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE ALREADY EXAMPLES AND THE COMMUNICATION PIECE REALLY THINKING TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS SO PRINCIPALS CAN EVEN PUSH OUT VIDEOS. WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR FAMILIES REALLY LISTEN TO OUR PRINCIPALS, AND SO THAT WAS REALLY JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, YES, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON THE TRANSITION FROM MIDDLE TO HIGH, BUT WE ARE ALSO VERY FOCUSED ON AND IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE ELEMENTARY TO MIDDLE, WHICH YOU, OF COURSE, IN 2019 HIGHLIGHTED WHAT DR. NICHOLS HAD PRESENTED THEN. GREAT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE HARRISON, I'M SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOUR QUESTIONS. OH, NO, WE WERE IN ALIGNMENT. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. I JUST AM HOPING WE CAN, AS YOU ALL HAVE ADDED, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND ALL THE DIFFERENT STUDENT GROUPS MAKE THINGS CLEARER SO WE CAN MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS. YOU KNOW, FOUR OF US ARE HERE FOR FOUR MORE YEARS, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS STAGE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT THE REST OF THIS YEAR, THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES, EVEN AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUDGET, WE NEED TO PUT IN PLACE. LIKE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE SLIDE. THINKING ABOUT INCREASING ENROLLMENT IN CLASS PLANNING, BUT THEN HOW IS THAT STAFFING, WORKING WITH INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ADVANCED COURSE TEACHERS AND WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO THEY NEED? AND SO, YOU KNOW, TAKING A LONGER TERM VIEW OF ALL OF THIS AS WELL. TRUSTEE WESTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO I CAN'T LET THIS GO WITHOUT BEING SAID. THIS IS MR. RYAN SMITH'S LAST REGULAR BOARD MEETING AT ROUND ROCK ISD. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE, SIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. OF COURSE, YOU WILL STILL BE A PARENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. DR. NICHOLS, I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. CAMPUS TOURS THAT YOU SAID WILL WILL LOOK AND FEEL DIFFERENT. I GUESS. I THINK I'M GOING TO BE GOING ON TOURS AGAIN IN MARCH, SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO PERHAPS GETTING MORE MEAT OUT OF THOSE. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD, BUT NOW THAT I'VE BEEN TO ALMOST ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO BACK, IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE MORE OF THE WORK. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT, WHICH I'M NOT SURPRISED TO HAVE COME FROM YOU. DR. AZAIEZ, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AGENDA ITEM, I ONLY SEE THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT THEY WENT THROUGH AT THE BEGINNING, BUT THEN THE GOOD DOCTORS OVER HERE COVERED A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU GUYS WERE REFERRING TO SOMETHING. I DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, AND IT SEEMED TO BE VERY CONTENT RICH, AND SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT EXISTS THAT YOU COULD WELL NOT EVEN SEND THE BOARD? COULD WE JUST ATTACH IT TO THIS AGENDA SO THAT EVEN THE PUBLIC I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T PROBABLY WATCHING THIS BOARD MEETING NOW, BUT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. NO, THEY HAD SOME TALKING POINTS. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT IT INTO, ADD IT TO THE SLIDES. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE. I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY OTHER SLIDES. YOU HAVE SOME TALKING POINTS. BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW PROGRAM. IT SOUNDED LIKE A PARTNERSHIP. YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WAS ACQUIRED BY--I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, AND SO WE WILL ADD IT TO THE SLIDES. MAYBE WE CAN ADD IT THE NEXT STEPS OR WHAT? YES, SIR, WE'RE PREPARED. WE WE WERE ASKED JUST TO PROVIDE SOME SPECIFICITY ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING, AND WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT IN AN UNIFORM FASHION. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OUTLINE THAT BULLET'S EVERYTHING WE SHARED READY TO SHARE WITH DR. NICHOLS AND PATTI TO GET TO EVERYONE. MADAM CHAIR, DO WE NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO ASK FOR THAT? BOARD, DO WE HAVE? YOU HAVE CONSENSUS. THANK YOU FOR CHECKING. OKAY, WE HAVE BOARD GOALS AND TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE. BOARD GOAL NUMBER THREE, AND THEN WE HAVE GOAL PROGRESS MEASURE. SO 3.1, 3.2, 3.3. THESE ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE. TONIGHT, WE GOT AN UPDATE. CAN YOU CONFIRM, DR. GUERRERO? I HEARD YOU AND DR. NICHOLS. WHAT IS THIS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? THIS TEN POINT SPREAD. I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU HAVE YOUR OWN GOAL ABOUT BETWEEN THE RACIAL GROUPS NOT HAVING A GOAL. YOU SAID WE HAVE OUR OWN GOAL WITH REGARD TO THREE OR 3.1 SPECIFICALLY, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? 3.2? I'M SORRY, 3.2. YES, MA'AM, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REVISIT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE CAMPUSES HAD SET GOALS, AND I THINK MR. [01:20:01] SMITH HAD MENTIONED THOSE GOALS. SO THEY DIDN'T ALIGN TO THAT 88% GOAL THAT TEA SET FOR US THAT METRIC. SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND ENSURE THAT OUR CAMPUSES RECONFIGURED SET THEIR GOAL FOR 88% OR ABOVE, AND THAT WAS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS. SO THAT OWN GOAL MEANT THAT CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL HAD TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THEIR GOAL TO ALIGN WITH THE EXPECTATION. CEDAR RIDGE, STONY POINT, EVERY HIGH SCHOOL WENT BACK AND DID THAT. THAT'S JUST 3.2. IT WAS. WHAT WE DID WAS FOR OVERALL FOR THE GOAL THREE THE ENTIRE CCMR MEASURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT [INAUDIBLE] PRESENTED TO US WAS THE FACT THAT. IF EACH SCHOOL IS NOT ABLE TO HIT 88% OF THE MINIMUM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF OUR SCHOOLS WHERE THEY WILL GO BACKWARDS IN REGARDS TO THEIR RATING. THE CCMR GOAL FOR HIGH SCHOOL WILL NOT ONLY IMPACT DOMAIN ONE, BUT DOMAIN TWO AND THREE. WE DO NOT AT THIS TIME KNOW THE METHODOLOGY BETWEEN DOMAIN TWO AND THREE. SO IN OUR PREPARATION AND KNOWING THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT HIGH SCHOOLS CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT. AS FAR AS OUR OVERALL DISTRICT RATING, WE KNEW THAT THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAD TO DELIVER A DIFFERENT NUMBER AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING SO MUCH TIME AND THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS WITH THEIR PRINCIPALS AND BEING REALLY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVERYONE OUR MINDSET IS AT THIS POINT IS OUR GOAL AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOARD GOAL IS 88 OVERALL, BUT FOR EACH HIGH SCHOOL, THE MINIMUM GOAL THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER IS AN OVERALL 88% IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DR. AGNEW WHERE IT CAME IN IN REGARDS TO EQUITY. IT WAS BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HER AND HOW SHE INFORMED OUR THINKING IN REGARDS TO THE GOALS AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THEM OVERALL AND SAYING THAT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT MAYBE THE BOARD HAS PICKED AS FAR AS THE SPREAD BETWEEN DIFFERENT POPULATIONS IN OUR MIND, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR AND HOW THEY LOOK AT EQUITY. AND SO WHAT WE FELT IS KNOWING HOW THAT'S DEFINED, WE ALSO HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT INTERVENTIONS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT GOAL. SO AGAIN, NO DISRESPECT, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS PUT AS A BOARD GOAL, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE REACHING THAT AS A UNIT AND ALSO INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS. SO WE ALSO PLANNED OUR INTERVENTION SO THAT DISPARITY BETWEEN THOSE POPULATIONS WOULD NOT BE THERE. JUST A REMINDER, TRUSTEES, THIS IS WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MARSHA WHEN SHE WAS HERE DOWN IN FRONT THAT TEA IS REVAMPING A LOT OF THESE STANDARDS. AND SO ONCE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE, WE WOULD THEN REALIGN OUR BOARD GOALS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT ON EACH OF THE NEW CATEGORIES AND THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SCORING AND THINGS. SO WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS. IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE ADDRESS THIS SUMMER ONCE THE FINAL RATINGS AND EVERYTHING HAVE BEEN DECIDED BY TEA. AND WE I DON'T KNOW IF BOARD MEMBER, JUST TO REMIND YOU ALSO, I THINK WE HAVE AN APRIL WE SCHEDULED ANOTHER ACADEMIC WORKSHOP. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHERE TEA WANT US TO BE AS A DISTRICT, I MEAN AS THE STATE, I GUESS, BUT ALSO FOR US TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UPDATE AND DIVE DEEPER INTO WHERE WE AT AND WHAT WE DO. AND SO WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULE. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE, BUT WE KNOW IT'S THE MONTH OF APRIL. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND SEE WHAT'S A DATE THAT WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR ALL OF YOU. BUT WE HAVE THAT OBVIOUSLY IN THE WORKS FOR APRIL. MAY I FINISH? THANK YOU. SO MY POINT THERE, YOU WERE NOT HERE, DR. NICHOLS, TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS BOARD ADOPTED THE BOARD GOALS. BUT IT IS THE PRECISELY THE CONCERNS FOR EQUITY THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT THAT APPARENTLY IS COMING DOWN FROM TEA IS THE PRECISE REASON WHY I VOTED NO ON THESE BOARD GOALS, BECAUSE THEY ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. I WOULD INVITE THE PUBLIC TO GO LOOK AT THEM. AND YOU CAN SEE BIGGER THAN 10% DISPARITIES BETWEEN RACIAL GROUPS. I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT TWO YEARS AGO. I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT TODAY. AND I HOPE BUT I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT THIS BOARD WILL STOP. LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE APPROVED AND RECONSIDER. AND I'M GLAD THAT THE BOARD GOALS ARE NOT SERVING AS A CONSTRAINT ON THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, AS A PARENT WHOSE YOUNGEST OF FIVE CHILDREN IS NOW A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL. SO FOR MY HUSBAND AND I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE THE FINISH LINE. YOU MENTIONED DOCTOR GUERRERO AND MULTIPLE OF YOU MENTIONED THE TRANSITIONS AND HOW HOW CRITICAL THEY ARE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PARENTS. [01:25:07] I WILL TELL YOU JUST A QUICK STORY. SO MY NUMBER FOUR SON, WHO'S NOW IN TEXAS, AGGIE, BUT WHEN HE WAS AT OLDTOWN ELEMENTARY IN FIFTH GRADE, HE WAS OUR FIRST CHILD TO GROW UP HERE IN ROUND ROCK ISD. AS A MILITARY FAMILY, MY OLDER BOYS GREW UP AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE DID NOT KNOW. SO WE WERE HERE. WE WERE EXPERIENCED PARENTS WITH OUR NUMBER FOUR CHILD, AND WE DID NOT KNOW THE CRITICALITY OF THE MATH BETWEEN HIM GOING FROM FIFTH TO SIXTH GRADE. AND IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE WE WERE AT A BARBECUE WITH A NEIGHBOR WHO MENTIONED, OH, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR SON ISN'T IN A TAG MATH OR PRE TAG MATH, WHATEVER IT WAS IN FIFTH GRADE, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO CALCULUS IN HIGH SCHOOL. AND MY HUSBAND ALMOST DROPPED THE PLATE OF FOOD BECAUSE HE'S THE OH, MY GOSH, HOW DO I NOT KNOW THAT? HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT? AND I SAID, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST SORT OF HAPPENSTANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, MY SON GOT ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR MATH. SO I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC BECAUSE EVEN INVOLVED PARENTS, EVEN EXPERIENCED PARENTS, THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO ASK. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. TRUSTEE ZARATE. HI THERE. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TSIA INTERVENTION. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME OF IT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE DURING FLEX TIME FOR SOME OF THESE STUDENTS. MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS, IS IT MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM OR IS IT A REQUIREMENT? I KNOW A LOT OF STUDENTS ENJOY THE AGENCY. THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO AT THEIR FLEX TIME. NOT THAT NOT THAT THEY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN THEIR ACADEMICS, OF COURSE. BUT I JUST KNOW TELLING A STUDENT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, OFFERING THAT THEY CAN BE SOMEWHERE IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT WAY OF PRESENTING IT TO THE STUDENT. SO THAT'S MY MAIN QUESTION. AND THEN I HAVE A SECOND QUESTION ONCE YOU ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION WITH STUDENT AND PARENT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES PRESENTED FOR THEM. I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE GIVING THEM FOR THAT EXTRA TUTORING. AND THE WHOLE POINT BEING, ONCE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH TSIA, THERE'S NO MORE REASON TO GO INTO THE SCHEDULED TUTORING OR, YOU KNOW, SO THE ADVANTAGE IS GO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TUTORING, PASS THE TSIA TOO AND THEN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THAT TIME MOVING FORWARD. OKAY, COOL. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE THERE GOING TO BE TEACHERS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY USING FLEX TIME FOR THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF TEACHERS HAVE OTHER STUDENTS COME FOR DIFFERENT THINGS FOR FLEX TIMES. AND AND I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THEIR TIME WILL BE FOCUSED ON THESE INTERVENTION KIDS AND THEN HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THEIR OWN STUDENTS THAT ALSO NEED TUTORING IN THAT? AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A BURDEN ON THE TEACHER QUESTION, BUT JUST CURIOUS. SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH TEACHERS. WE DO WANT A TEAM APPROACH SO THAT ONE PERSON ISN'T BURDENED WITH THAT TASK OF ALL TSIA, ALL CAPA, ETC.. SO THAT WILL BE A TEAM APPROACH. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY DO HAVE THEIR REGULAR CLASS, REGULAR INTERVENTIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH OTHER STUDENTS ON. SO IT WON'T BE AN ALL DAY, EVERY, EVERY DAY TYPE THING. IT WILL BE SHARED BETWEEN THOSE DIFFERENT TEACHERS. OK. THANKS A LOT. TRUSTEE BONE. THANK YOU. FIRST, THANK YOU TRUSTEE WESTON FOR BRINGING UP THE DISPARITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONCERNED SINCE THESE GOALS WERE MADE AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT STILL CONCERNED ABOUT. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY HAS TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO ACTUALLY CLOSE THOSE GAPS AND PULL THOSE UP SO THAT WE'RE REALLY FOR ALL STUDENTS WITH THESE GOALS. SO FIRST QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INTERVENTIONS, IT'S JUST FOR SENIORS AT THIS POINT. AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE YOU ALSO THEN WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE TSIA, TOO, IS BEST FOR MAYBE JUNIORS AND SOPHOMORES. SO I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING AT THIS POINT, THE SEEMS I UNDERSTAND THIS IS VERY REACTIONARY. I UNDERSTAND WE JUST FOUND THIS OUT. BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN THAT WE'RE TREADING WATER IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SENIORS THIS YEAR. AND WHILE THE JUNIORS ARE SETTING THERE AND THEN HAVING TO DO THE SAME THING NEXT YEAR. SO THIS IS JUST FOR SENIORS OR AM I MISTAKEN? CURRENTLY WE'RE TARGETING THE SENIORS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S MOST CRITICAL AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. [01:30:04] BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID EARLIER, WE WILL BE BACKING THAT UP SO THAT WE ARE TARGETING THOSE SOPHOMORE AND JUNIOR SO THAT WE DON'T END UP AT THIS EXACT SAME SPOT NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS IS THAT THIS YEAR ARE PUSHING THAT TO NEXT YEAR? I CAN SPEAK FOR STONY POINT. SO WE ALREADY STARTED AT THE END OF LAST SEMESTER IN REGARDS TO GIVING TSIA 2 WITH SOME OF THE FINALS. SO THE JUNIOR CLASS HAS ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS AT STONY POINT. AND THEN, YES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COHESIVE PLAN BETWEEN ALL FIVE, BUT WE WILL HAVE THAT SOON. IN REGARDS TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR SOPHOMORES AND JUNIORS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. AND ALSO TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH ON THAT AS FAR AS RYAN'S TEAM, DR. DARDEN, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] IN CURRICULUM. SEVERAL DIFFERENT TEAM TEAMS ARE COMING TOGETHER. WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL FRIDAY MEETINGS WHERE SPECIFICALLY THAT IS THE ISSUE BEING WORKED UPON, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS YEAR WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON WHAT IS OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD. FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS, ESPECIALLY AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE REALIZED THAT WE HAVE TO PUSH THIS DOWN INTO EIGHTH GRADE BECAUSE THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES THEY WON'T GET. AND SO WE'RE WE'LL BE WORKING THAT AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT HERE SOON WE WILL GET TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND MAYBE BE ABLE TO PRESENT ON WHAT THAT PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE. BUT THERE ARE DEFINITE PLANS IN THE SHORT TERM IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT. SO IT WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LEFT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YOU WILL DEFINITELY SEE WHERE THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING THIS YEAR, BUT WE WANT TO GET THROUGH AND MAKE SURE. BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES MADE BY TEA THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE 12TH GRADE WHILE CONCURRENTLY WITH DR. DARDEN AND HER TEAM. WE'RE CREATING A PLAN THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THIS YEAR TO TAKE CARE OF 11TH GRADERS AND 10TH GRADERS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN UPWARD SLOG FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN TEA MADE THIS CHANGE, I'M ACTUALLY FOR THIS. I WAS A BIG PUSHER OF SETTING OUR GOALS HIGHER TO BEGIN WITH IN OUR DISTRICT. SO I THINK TEA IS DOING THE RIGHT THING AND PUSHING THESE GOALS HIGHER. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO THINK ABOUT, ABOUT ALL OF OUR GOALS SO THAT WE DON'T SEE THIS AGAIN WHERE WE HAVE THESE BIG JUMPS AND PUSH FOR THESE THESE HIGH STANDARDS. MY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS IT KIND OF GOES AROUND, WHAT SHOULD WE ASKED ABOUT IS WHAT EXTRA WORK IS THIS PUTTING ON OUR COUNSELORS, OUR ELA? WHEN I WAS HEARING YOU, WE DON'T GET THIS FOR FREE. SO THERE IS TIME. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNSELORS HAVE A LOT MORE WORK RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT IS TAKING A BACK SEAT? WHAT MAY NOT BE GETTING DONE? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE PAYOFFS HERE? THAT YOU ALL KNOW OF. SO I'VE BEEN SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF TIME OVER IT, STONY POINT WITH THAT TEAM. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITHIN JUST TWO DAYS WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH 265 STUDENTS AND CREATE INDIVIDUAL PLANS. ALSO MUCH OF THE WORK AROUND CCMR. THE EXCITING PIECE WAS THEY THEY ALREADY HAD IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, CCMR IS NOT NEW TO US. I THINK THE SENSE OF URGENCY BECAUSE OF THE MEASURE CHANGING. ONLY MAGNETIZE WHAT WE ALREADY DO, BUT THEY ALREADY HAD SOME SYSTEMS AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST BEING FAR MORE AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT 2023 HAS EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO IT IS OF COURSE, WE'RE PROVIDING INDIVIDUALIZED PLANS FOR EVERY STUDENT. BUT IT IS, AS I SAID, EARLY ON, A COLLECTIVE APPROACH. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TUTORIALS AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, I KNOW THAT RYAN'S TEAM AND TEACHING AND LEARNING IS READILY AVAILABLE AND WORKING THROUGH RESOURCES AND SUPPORT BECAUSE WE DO KNOW OUR TEACHERS ARE SO VALUED AND THEY ALREADY DO SO MUCH. SO WE ARE WORKING COLLECTIVELY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER RESOURCE WE CAN. AND WHY. DR. [INAUDIBLE] AND I AND THE REST OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE VISITING WITH OUR TEAMS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE RIGHT SUPPORTS AND RESOURCES THAT WE CAN FROM OUR LENS AND OUR TEAM. YES, THANK YOU. BECAUSE I WAS WANTING TO KNOW ABOUT OUR TEACHERS AND OUR COUNSELORS AND WHAT THAT CHANGES IN THEIR WORKLOAD. AND I WANTED TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THAT AND KNOW IF THE BOARD NEEDED TO TAKE ANY ACTION. [01:35:01] AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S ANY OTHER IMPACT. AND THE REASON I ALSO ASK IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE I AT LEAST KNOW CEDAR RIDGE BECAUSE I HAVE AN INCOMING EIGHTH GRADER. AND IT WAS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION THAT TRUSTEE FELLER BROUGHT UP. AND THEY HAVE CHANGED THIS YEAR WHERE THE EIGHTH GRADERS ARE ONLY ACTUALLY GIVING THEIR NINTH GRADE PLAN. AND THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE USUALLY YOU WOULD SET UP YOUR FOUR YEAR PLAN WITH YOUR COUNSELOR, AND WE'RE NOT HAVING INDIVIDUAL AND COUNSELOR APPOINTMENTS. AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE I IS THAT SOMEHOW TIED TO THIS. IS THAT THE REASON THAT'S HAPPENING AT CEDAR RIDGE OR ARE THESE. NO CORRELATION. I CAN TELL YOU, JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH CEDAR RIDGE AND IT'S BEEN FOR A WHILE NOW, WE HAVE ALWAYS REVISITED AND SOMETIMES RECREATED A FOUR YEAR PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS IN A HURRY. AND SOMETIMES I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE APPROACH. WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM OF COUNSELORS AT CEDAR RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL THAT UNDERSTAND THE PATHWAY SO WELL, AND I THINK THEY WANT MORE OF THAT INDIVIDUALIZED ATTENTION. YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING FOR OR AGAINST IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WASN'T AN IMPACT FROM THE SINCE IT WAS A CHANGE THAT I WAS AWARE OF. I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. AND DR. BONE REALLY TOUCHED ON MY TWO POINTS THAT I WAS MOST INTERESTED IN IS REALLY THE LONG TERM PLAN ON HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS STARTING EARLIER. SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A CATCH UP MODE. AND SO I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PLAN. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING IT, BUT. SO THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN AS WELL. SO I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON TRUSTEES, OUT THERE ARE YOU GOOD? ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. IT IS 7:08. LET'S TAKE A SEVEN MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK IN AT 7:15. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 7:15. WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM G1 BOARD STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS, TIME TRACKER, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TRUSTEE WEIR. [G. DISCUSSION ITEMS] I WISH I HAD A BELL I LIKE. I WISH I HAD A COWBELL RIGHT NOW. I'M SO PROUD OF US. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN DECEMBER, WE HAD 50% OF OUR MEETING WAS ON STUDENT OUTCOMES. SO YAY. WE DID. AWESOME. AND THAT EVEN INCLUDED ALL THE TIME THAT WE SPENT DOING OUR SWEARING IN, WE STILL MADE 50%. SO GOOD JOB. BOARD I WILL LET YOU KNOW. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TRUSTEE WEIR THIS WEEK THAT SHE ALSO NEEDS TO BE TRACKING OUR TIME SPENT IN CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR BOARD CONSTRAINT OF NO MORE THAN ONE HOUR A MONTH SPENT IN CLOSED SESSION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF EITHER GRIEVANCES OR LEGAL ADVICE. SO YOU WILL BE REPORTING ON THAT AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE HOW YET YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR TRACKING FORM. BUT SHE'S GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT SO THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING WITH OUR CONSTRAINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON OUR TIME TRACKER? OK SEE, NONE WILL MOVE ON TO THE MONTHLY MONITOR REPORT FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. DR. FALTYS, THANK YOU FOR GETTING OUR DECEMBER REPORT IN TIME THAT WE COULD HAVE IT TO REVIEW THIS MONTH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE LANDER AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DR. AZAIEZ. WE'LL RUN THROUGH THESE AS WE CAN. AS I'VE MENTIONED THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, TEA HAS ASKED THAT WE CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT TEMPLATE FORMAT. AND SO, DR. BOWEN, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT THAT WE HAD A DATE ERROR ON ONE AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER EXCEL TYPE ERRORS ON THE DECEMBER ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WILL POINT OUT AND BUT WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO IN NOVEMBER AND AGAIN, A LOT OF US IS GOING TO BE EXPLAINING THE NEW TEMPLATE OR LETTING YOU SEE THE NEW TEMPLATE. PAGE ONE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS IT IS PAGE TWO ON THE MONTHLY PROGRESS REPORT. AGAIN, SINCE THIS IS NOVEMBER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLD NEWS. THERE WAS WE STILL NEEDED TO THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY ON THAT THIRD BULLET ON THE MAKING NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE GRIEVANCE POLICY, GRIEVANCE POLICIES BASED ON PREVIOUS ACTIVITY. AND THE DECEMBER REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THE DR. AZAIEZ AND I MET THIS WAS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY IF ADMINISTRATION OR LEGAL NEEDED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO FAG GBA LOCAL TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO WITH [01:40:01] PROCESS THAT COULD HELP BE MORE EFFICIENT. BUT WE'VE REALLY KIND OF BEEN MANAGING THOSE GRIEVANCE PROCESSES FAIRLY WELL. AND IN DECEMBER. AND SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE DECEMBER REPORT THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT ONE COMPLETE, AS DR. AZAIEZ AND I HAVE HAVE DETERMINED, THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES NEEDED THERE AT THIS TIME. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. THIS IS A ONE. AND AGAIN, I GUESS I'M KIND OF COVERING NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER TOGETHER. I HATE TO SAY THAT I WILL MOST LIKELY RESUBMIT DECEMBER'S BECAUSE IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON GOAL NUMBER TWO AND GOAL NUMBER THREE, IT APPEARS THAT WHEN THOSE WERE SUBMITTED, SOME OF THOSE OVERWROTE EACH OTHER. SO WE'LL GO I'LL TRY TO KEEP THEM AS SEPARATE AS POSSIBLE. SO STILL UNDER NOVEMBER, THERE'S STILL THOSE BULLETS. ON REVIEWING COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE AND PRACTICES WITH THAT SWOT ANALYSIS I'VE TALKED TO DR. MCMAHON. I DON'T THINK THAT SHE IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT IS COMFORTABLE LEADING US IN THAT PROCESS. SO SHE AND I AND DR. AZAIEZ ALL TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE THAT COULD LEAD US IN THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS AMONG ALL OF OUR TRUSTEES IS HAPPENING CORRECTLY, THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING CLOSE TO TOMO VIOLATIONS AND THAT EVERYONE IS INFORMED AND AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VERBIAGE ON THE DECEMBER REPORT ON THIS ONE. THE OTHER ONES ARE STILL THAT ON THE RELEVANT POLICIES, THE THIRD BULLET ABOUT OVERALL COMMUNICATIONS, IT'S MARKED OFF TRACK. IT PROBABLY SHOULD JUST BE MORE OF A NOT STARTED YET THAN AN OFF TRACK BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ONE WE'RE REALLY STILL JUST LOOKING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO OR NEED TO DO. AND THEN REVIEWING THOSE BEST PRACTICES. YOU'LL SEE IN THE DECEMBER REPORT, IF IT DIDN'T GET OVERRIDDEN THAT THE TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THAT I THINK SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY. I THINK I HAVE THE DATE. FEBRUARY NINTH. I THINK I HAVE THAT OR I INITIALLY WROTE THAT IN THE DECEMBER REPORT. WE'LL SEE IF IT GOT LEFT IN THERE. AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, WE'VE HAD A GOAL THREE THAT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME. THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TBD ON THE OLD TEMPLATE. AND IN SPEAKING WITH SUPERINTENDENT AND DR. MCMAHON, WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT DOING IS ROLLING IN SOME OF THE LSG GOALS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A CELEBRATION THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED ON THESE. BUT IN NOVEMBER, THE INTENT WAS REALLY TO SHARE THESE WITH YOU. I THINK THESE WILL BE EASY CHECKS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE PART OF THE THE CAP, THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN. I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR EXIT CRITERIA NECESSARILY. BUT I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TEA BECAUSE I THINK I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT BETTER ON THIS. WE MENTIONED IT IN TWO OR THREE REPORTS JUST ABOUT IN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, ABOUT THE AMOUNT NUMBERS OF MEETINGS AND TIME AND MEETINGS. AND I KNOW I COUNT THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN LSG DOES, AND I THINK THIS GETS US A LITTLE MORE ALIGNED WITH THE LSG AS YOU CURRENTLY LOOK AT YOUR TIME OF MEETINGS. SO THIS IS THE PART THAT GOT OVERRIDDEN IN DECEMBER. SO IF YOU LOOK TO THAT DECEMBER REPORT, YOU'LL NOTICE IT LOOKS LIKE TWO GOT COPIED OVER TO THREE. SO THAT IS THE DECEMBER REPORT, THE LAST PAGE, IF YOU WILL. THIS IS THE ONE WHERE I THINK THE LAST PAGE OF DECEMBER. THIS IS A NEW TALLY PAGE, IF YOU WILL, THAT TEA HAS PUT IN THAT BASICALLY SHOWS THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ASSIGNED, HOW MANY WE'VE COMPLETED, HOW MANY ARE LEFT. BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM UNDER GPM, 3.1, IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE FOUR ACTIVITIES AND ONE WAS COMPLETED. BUT IF WE SCROLL BACK UP, YOU WOULD NOTICE IT. WE DIDN'T REALLY START THAT ONE. SO I STILL HAVE SOME WORK WITH TEA ON THAT SPREADSHEET ITSELF. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT REFLECT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON THAT UPPER PAGE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. THEN. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE DECEMBER REPORT. WE'LL GO TO. SO DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT BOTH REPORTS AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS? BECAUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE BOARD. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE DECS AS WELL AND THEN WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. I SAID, I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE DEC AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RESUBMITTED, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE CHECKED OFF BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. AND IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE, WHERE IT'S THE HEADING IS MONTHLY PROGRESS. THAT'S THE ONE WHERE I MENTIONED THAT ON THE THIRD GPM, WHERE WE'VE MARKED THAT COMPLETE, WHERE WE VISITED WITH DR. AZAIEZ AND ADMINISTRATION FELT LIKE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED CHANGES. THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO THOSE GRIEVANCE POLICIES AND WE MARKED IT COMPLETE. WE WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT. IF SOMETHING COMES UP AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WILL HELP YOU GUYS, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS GRIEVANCES, WE'RE HEARING THEM IN A TIMELY FASHION. [01:45:01] I'VE ASKED ADMINISTRATION TO PREPARE A PROGRESS CHART, IF YOU WILL, OR SHARE WITH ME A PROGRESS CHART THAT I CAN START, INCLUDING WITH THIS JUST SHOWING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING. WELL, TO SHOW THAT WE'RE WHEN GRIEVANCES COME IN, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS BACKLOG OF GRIEVANCES. WE'RE CURRENTLY PRETTY MUCH CAUGHT UP EXCEPT FOR ONE OR TWO THAT ARE HANGING OUT THERE. BUT WE NEED TO GET CREDIT FOR THOSE. AND THEN ON THAT NEXT PAGE WHERE IT'S GPM TO THE GO PRODUCTS MEASURE TO. THAT ONE, I BELIEVE, IS AS IT IS THEN IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT GOT OVERRIDDEN. BUT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ON THE FIRST ONE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SWOT ANALYSIS WE ADDED IN THERE. NOW, IF THAT ONE'S NOT CORRECT. SORRY. LET ME SCROLL UP A PAGE. SORRY. GO BACK UP. ONE PAGE, SIR. THIS IS WHERE I ADDED THAT WE DISCUSSED WHETHER THERE'S OTHER VENDORS OR MODERATORS WHO CAN HELP US WITH THIS ACTIVITY. AGAIN, AFTER SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. MCMAHON, SHE SAID, AND FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY FITS HER ROLE AS LSG. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, YOU SEE ON THAT LAST PAGE WHERE THINGS GOT OVERWRITTEN ON THE VERY LAST PAGE, IF YOU WILL, OR THE BOARD INTERACTIONS WHERE WE HAD THE BOARD MEETING ON DECEMBER THE EIGHTH, WHERE WE HAD LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCES AND THEN ON THE 13TH WHERE WE SEEDED THOSE NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND AGAIN, OUR TIME GOALS WERE MET THERE. SO THAT WAS EXCITING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TRUSTEES, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE WEIR. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU ADDRESSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I. YOU KNOW, I WAS THE PRESIDENT WHEN WE SIGNED THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN, AND SO I WAS REALLY I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE LSG POP UP, SINCE IT REALLY WASN'T. WELL, I HAD ZERO TO DO WITH THE ISSUE THAT WAS IN THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN. AND I GUESS SO MY QUESTION IS, I MEAN, YOU'VE ADDED IT, BUT IS THERE I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE WERE. PROGRESSING, BUT IS THERE ANY ACTUAL REASON TO HAVE IT IN THERE, SINCE IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN? WELL, THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN THAT WAS PUT OUT ALLOWED SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL GOALS IF WE'D NEEDED THEM, LIKE THE ONE ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN MONITORING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND THERE WAS THAT GOAL THREE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TBD AND AS WE TALKED. DURING THE SUMMER AND EARLY PART OF THE YEAR, WE WERE HAVING EXTREMELY LONG MEETINGS AND FOUR AND FIVE MEETINGS A MONTH. AND SO I ADDED THAT IN THERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S AS I MENTIONED, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE EXIT CRITERIA THAT TO ME, THAT WAS SOMETHING I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MONITOR AND I THINK WE CAN SHOW TO THAT. YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT THERE, BUT IT MATCHES UP WITH THOSE LSG GOALS. AND IF YOU WANT ME TO USE DIFFERENT VERBIAGE ON OR OFF THE BOARD, I MEAN, I CAN LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT. WELL, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, I WENT BACK AND I PRINTED OUT THE ONE THAT I HAD SIGNED AND I WAS JUST SORT OF TRYING TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT WHERE IT KIND OF FIT INTO THE ISSUE THAT HAD HAPPENED. CORRECT. I THINK IT RELATES TO GOVERNANCE IN GENERAL. THE OVERALL GOVERNANCE YOU DID THIS IS A GOVERNANCE PLACEMENT BASED ON A GRIEVANCE THAT OCCURRED THREE YEARS AGO NOW ALMOST FOUR ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO NOW. AND. SO THIS WAS, I GUESS, ADDED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING PROPER GRIEVANCE OR GOVERNANCE, IF YOU WILL. THE GRIEVANCE PROCESSES ARE GOING WELL. ARE GOING BETTER. LET'S SAY THAT. ANY OTHER. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. I ACTUALLY HAD QUITE A FEW BECAUSE IT WASN'T CLEAR WHY NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER WERE SO DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT UNTIL LITERALLY DURING RECESS BEFORE THIS THAT YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SOME PRINTING ISSUES. AND SO. PERHAPS SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WITH DECEMBER. WOULD BE RESOLVED IF WE IF YOU RESUBMIT THE REPORT BECAUSE IF. WHICH BY THE WAY IF I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU COULD PAGE NUMBER OF THESE IN THE FUTURE. OKAY SURE. ONLY BECAUSE I TRYING TO REFERENCE WHICH PAGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECEMBER REPORT, PAGE FOUR, AND IT TALKS IN GOLD 2.2, BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT 2.2. ON THE NOVEMBER REPORT, IT SAYS THAT. NOT YET STARTED COMPLETE OFF TRACK. OFF TRACK, NOT YET STARTED. CORRECT BUT THEN THE FOURTH AND SEE ONE, TWO, THREE THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH BULLET POINT ARE ALSO THE SAME AS [01:50:04] ON GOAL THREE IN THE DECEMBER REPORT. CORRECT. AND SO ALL OF THE GOAL THREE I GUESS NOW WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. SHOULD NOT EVEN BE THERE. THE GOAL THREE. SOMEHOW THAT GOT OVERWRITTEN. I SUBMITTED THESE FROM OVERSEAS TO TEA A SHARED FILE AND SOMEHOW ALL OF GOAL 2 GOT PULLED INTO GOAL THREE AND OVERWROTE WHAT WE HAD AND GO THREE FOR NOVEMBER THREE WAS THE NEW ONE THAT OBVIOUSLY MISSED WE'RE QUESTION. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT ESPECIALLY IF THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT THIS, IT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. IT HAS. AND EVEN IN THE DECEMBER REPORT, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE NOVEMBER REPORT, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PAGE TWO. WHICH TALKS ABOUT EACH GOAL IN GENERAL, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES ONES THAT WE'VE COMPLETED AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMPLETED FOR GOAL ONE, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETED FOR GOALS TWO AND GOAL THREE IN NOVEMBER. IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DOCUMENT. IT'S ON THE NEXT TO THE LAST PAGE, THAT SHEET. OH, OKAY. SO IT IS FILLED OUT. YOU'RE RIGHT. I MISSED THAT ONE. IT'S FILLED OUT FOR GOAL THREE IN NOVEMBER, BUT GOAL TWO IS STILL CORRECT. BLANK SO I'M NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH THE CHANGE IN TEMPLATE. I THINK I'VE STATED THAT AT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS PRIOR. WITHOUT SAYING MUCH ELSE, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK WHILE MAINTAINING CONSISTENCY WITH WHAT WE'RE REPORTING AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR EXIT. AND THEN I JUST HAD A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS, LIKE ON THE DECEMBER REPORT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT OUR EXIT CRITERIA IS TO INCREASE FROM PREPARING FOCUS TO MASTERS IN TERMS OF OUR EVALUATION AS A BOARD. AND I GUESS ALONG THE SAME LINES AS WHAT TRUSTEE WE ARE ASKED IS HOW DOES THAT ALIGN WITH OUR CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN? AND IS THAT A STANDARD EXIT CRITERIA? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT NUMBER THREE IS AN I DON'T WANT TO SAY ADDED EXTRA. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL TO ASSIST YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE EXIT CRITERIA. IF YOU'RE ASKING ME HOW THAT NEEDS SUPPORT AND IT'S ON THERE. SO I KNOW AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REFLECTED THAT WAY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE PLANNING ON CHANGING THAT, THAT IT NOT BE AN EXIT CRITERIA? I'M PLANNING ON WORKING TO CHANGE THAT. OKAY, FABULOUS. AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ON ONE THAT WAS ADDED ON 2.1. I'M LOOKING AT THE DECEMBER REPORT, BUT THE LAST ONE ON 2.1 IS SAYS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WILL ATTEND, IMPLEMENT AND SUSTAIN HIGHEST LEVERAGE MOVES LEARNED AT TEAM OF EIGHT. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS AS WE'RE PREPARING FOR A TEAM OF EIGHT AND WE KNOW WHAT HIGHEST LEVEL LEVERAGE MOVES MEAN AND WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE, LIKE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COVER AT TEAM OF EIGHT AND THEN IMPLEMENT AFTER THAT. WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS BECAUSE ONCE TEAM OF EIGHT IS DONE, IT'S HARD TO REPEAT IT. YEAH, THAT'S TEA VERBIAGE. I'LL REMOVE THAT FROM THE DECEMBER REPORT. IT'S REFLECTED IN THE NOVEMBER REPORT EITHER I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. WE DIDN'T HAVE HIGHEST LEVERAGE MOVES IN THE EARLIER TEMPLATES. AND AS I SAID, THERE'S BEEN OTHER EYES WORKING ON THIS TEMPLATE RECENTLY. AND SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO MATCH UP THE VERBIAGE THAT YOU'VE SEEN 12 OTHER TIMES. OKAY. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF MY QUESTIONS. I DID FORWARD TO TRUSTEES ZARATE AND MARKUM TODAY, THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN AND THE CORRECTIVE ACTION AGREEMENT AND LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED BACK IN AUGUST OF 2021. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE NOT RELEASABLE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY DO FALL UNDER THE AUDIT WORKING PAPER EXCEPTION FROM TEA. BUT I DID GO BACK AND READ THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING IN ALIGNMENT WITH BECAUSE I'M READY TO FIRE YOU. NO OFFENSE, BUT READY TO MOVE ON. I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AS A DISTRICT. ONE LAST THING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WAS WATCHING AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, BUT WE ARE CAUGHT UP TO DATE ON OUR GRIEVANCES, LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCES EXCEPT FOR ONE THAT HAS BEEN POSTPONED AT THE GRIEVANCE REQUEST. SO WE ARE CAUGHT UP ON THAT. AND AS A RESULT, OUR FEBRUARY BOARD MEMBERS BOARD MEETING THAT WAS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR GRIEVANCES WILL BE OUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING. SO GOOD JOB BOARD ON THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? TRUSTEE BONE YES, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ON THESE REPORTS. THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED EXIT DATE, I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE AND ON I BELIEVE ALL THE REPORTS I'VE EVER SEEN. IT'S TBD. YES, IT HAS BEEN. AND I DO KNOW IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I DIDN'T REVIEW THE LETTER TODAY, BUT AMY HAS GOT IT SO SHE CAN CHECK. [01:55:05] BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE LETTER IT ACTUALLY SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A YEAR AND THE PLACEMENT DATE WAS 11/29/2021. SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON 14 MONTHS, WHICH IS PAST A YEAR. SO I AM WONDERING WHAT THIS TBD IS. I DO KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAD TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. SO I AM KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THIS TBD. SURE. WE MET WITH SUPERINTENDENT AND PRESIDENT LANDRUM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO NOW, I GUESS TO DISCUSS EXIT CRITERIA AND TO DOES A 90 DAY REVIEW, 60 DAY REVIEW, AND WE TYPICALLY GET A LETTER ABOUT EXTENDING THAT PLACEMENT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I BELIEVE WE'RE CLOSE ON PARTICULARLY THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS, SOME OF THOSE OTHER GOVERNANCE THINGS. YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO CHECK SOME BOXES ON THOSE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE SEVERAL OUTSTANDING COMPLAINTS AT TEA THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW. I DON'T HAVE TIMELINES ON THOSE AND I CAN'T GET TIMELINES. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TIMELINES ON THOSE. AND AS I UNDERSTAND TEA BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE FAIRLY. I DON'T WANT TO SAY SERIOUS COMPLAINTS, BUT THEY'RE FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL COMPLAINTS ABOUT TOMAN, SOME OTHER THINGS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE COMMUNITY OR I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE COMPLAINTS, BUT I THINK TO WOULD LIKE TO WORK THROUGH THAT COMPLAINT PROCESS BEFORE THEY EXIT ME OR FIRE ME. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD HAS TO DO THIS OR BUT I THINK THERE'S A REAL LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN TEA AND OUR COMMUNITY ON WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON HERE THEN BECAUSE AND EVEN THE BOARD, BECAUSE ALL WE KNOW ABOUT IS THIS TEA LETTER. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO KNOW ABOUT. WE DO KNOW WE'RE UNDER SPECIAL INVESTIGATION. THAT WAS IN A NEWS ARTICLE. BUT. I GUESS IT'S NOT IT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE HERE UNTIL SOME INDEFINITE DATE. AND I THINK OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I DON'T KNOW. PRESIDENT [INAUDIBLE]. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. OR LANDRUM I APOLOGIZE. BUT DO WE NEED TO VOTE OR DO WE NEED TO GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH SOMEBODY ABOVE DR. VALDEZ? WHAT CAN THE BOARD DO TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING FROM TEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IF I MAY, BEFORE THESE AS I'VE UNDERSTOOD IT, THIS WAS A GOVERNANCE PLACEMENT THAT WAS BASED ON A SPECIFIC GRIEVANCE PROCESS ISSUE AS A GOVERNANCE PLACEMENT TEA. WHILE THE CAP WAS ABOUT A GRIEVANCE PROCESS, IT'S STILL ABOUT OVERALL GOVERNANCE. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SEVERAL AT LEAST A FEW OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OR GOVERNANCE RELATED COMPLAINTS. AND THE QUESTION WOULD BE THE TIMELINE ON GETTING THROUGH THOSE COMPLAINTS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. THE BOARD MAY BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF THAT FROM THE NEW DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE GOVERNANCE COMPLAINTS BEFORE THEY TALK ABOUT EXIT. SO ALONG THE SAME LINES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY KIND OF POLICY OR PROCEDURES THAT TEA HAS AS REGARDS TO HOW EXITS TRADITIONALLY WORK. AND SO IF THAT'S AVAILABLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S THE POLICY AROUND. I MEAN, BECAUSE MONITORS DO LEAVE, THEY DON'T GO AND STAY FOREVER. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY TO STAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD AGREE. I DO HAVE ONE, AND I WASN'T GOING TO BRING IT UP HERE, BUT I KNOW IT HAS A PLACEMENT DATE OF 11/29/21 AND THAT'S YOUR PLACEMENT DATE. BUT WE ACTUALLY SIGNED THE GOVERNANCE LETTER ON AUGUST 20TH, 2021. AND SO DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WAS OUR INTERIM MONITOR UNTIL YOU SO GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTED. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED THAT'S YOUR PLACEMENT DATE. BUT TECHNICALLY OUR MONITORING ACTUALLY COMMENCED ON AUGUST THE 20TH, 2021. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WELL, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THREE MONTHS LONGER THAN WHAT IT STATES ON HERE. YEAH. CAN I SEE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE IF I RECALL, RIGHT WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED, I THOUGHT THERE WERE TIMELINES. BUT TEA THAT DISTRICTS, THEY DON'T JUST CONTINUE THIS FOREVER AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER TIMELINES THAT THEY THEN DO OTHER ACTIONS. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER CAME OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GOT A YEAR TO DO THIS, AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS. BUT NOW I'M JUST HEARING THAT THIS CAN CAN JUST KEEP PERPETUALLY GOING FOREVER. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I NEED CLARITY. I THINK OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS CLARITY. I SEE OTHER TRUSTEES SHAKING THEIR HEAD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT LANDRUM, YOU AND MALTESE OR I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THIS INFORMATION, BUT I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE IT SEEN AS A BOARD. [02:00:09] I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN INVITE THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OR SOMEBODY TO COME AND TALK TO THE BOARD, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME IT'S BEEN WAY PAST TIME. I THINK, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING I THINK THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY READY TO START TALKING IN A LOT MORE CONCRETENESS ON. SO LET ME LET'S SCHEDULE SOME TIME AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE AND IF WE CAN LOCATE THOSE POLICIES AND COMMUNICATE IT WITH THE BOARD, I WOULD AGREE. I LOVE COMING DOWN AND HANGING OUT WITH YOU GUYS, BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER TEXT AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT ONCE WE SAY LET'S EXIT. AND DR. AZAIEZ HAS HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THIS REALLY MORE THAN I HAVE, I THINK THERE'S STILL I SHOULD SAY THERE'S STILL A TIMELINE, WHETHER IT'S 30, 60, 90 DAYS. IF WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON EXITING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S 90 DAYS. SO EVEN AT THAT, IF WE SAID TODAY, LET'S BE DONE WITH IT, I THINK THERE'S STILL A TAIL OFF PERIOD, IF YOU WILL. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK. AND I THINK PRESENTLY THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. I HAVEN'T LOOKED FOR THIS ON A WEBSITE, BUT I WOULD LIKE THESE TIMELINES. BUT I DO REMEMBER DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WHEN HE CAME, HE MADE THESE COMMENTS OF LIKE EVEN WHEN YOU EXIT, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE IN REVIEW FOR SO LONG. AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THIS. I THINK OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. SO IF DR. FALTYS, MAYBE IF YOU CAN GET US THAT INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SURE. BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I CAN I WILL COORDINATE WITH DR. AZAIEZ'S AND PRESIDENT LANDRUM AND EITHER GET SOME TYPE OF WRITTEN NOTIFICATION FROM TEA OR WHETHER WE CAN DO A MEETING OR GET SOMEBODY HERE THAT WE COULD GO INTO EXEC AND I CAN HELP COORDINATE, MAYBE TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN CONTACT DEA AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND, HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING, I GUESS. AND THE LAST THING BOARD, I HAVE A REQUEST ON THESE MONITOR REPORTS AS I WAS TRYING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT HISTORICALLY, I EITHER HAD TO GO SEARCH MY EMAIL FOR EVERY MONTH THAT WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL OR I HAD TO GO TO AGENDAS TO FIND EACH MONTHLY REPORT. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT ON OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES WEBSITE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DROPDOWN MENU WHERE ALL OF THE MONITOR REPORTS ARE IN ONE LOCATION. AND IT'S EASY FOR NOT ONLY ME, I MEAN IF I'M HAVING THIS MUCH DIFFICULTY AND IT'S MINE. HOW DOES A COMMUNITY MEMBER GO AND LOOK AT HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS FOR THE MONITOR? SO DO I HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE CAN ASK ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE A SEPARATE TAB? IT LOOKS LIKE I. YEP, I HAVE FOUR. SO IF WE COULD DR. AZAIEZ, I KNOW WHERE THAT DEPARTMENT MAY BE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGES. SO I'M NOT SAYING BY THE END OF THE WEEK, BUT IF WE COULD ADD ANOTHER DROPDOWN TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WEBSITE THAT HAS MAYBE EVEN TWO HYPERLINKS, ONE TO THE PROGRESS, ONE TO THE MONTHLY REPORTS AND ONE TO THE EXPENSE REPORTS SO THAT ALL OF THEM ARE IN ONE LOCATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR DR. FALTYS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT BOARD. WE ARE AT H ITEMS BY CONSENT. [H. ACTION ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT] BEFORE I EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IN YOUR FOLDER YOU HAVE AN UPDATED AGENDA ITEM ON H ONE VERY ONE MINOR CHANGE WAS MADE ON THE THE MINUTES WAS CHANGED FROM OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER IN ONE DISCUSSION ITEM SECTION. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO DRAW THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE CORRECTED VERSION HAS BEEN UPLOADED ONTO THE WEBSITE ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR LOVELY ASSISTANT PATTY FOUND THAT MISTAKE AND SHE CORRECTED IT, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU HAD REVIEWED IT EARLIER IN THE WEEK, THAT ONE CHANGE HAD BEEN MADE FROM EARLIER, I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REQUESTS TO PULL ANYTHING OFF OF CONSENT. SO IF I HAVE ANY MOTIONS, I DID WANT TO PULL H 4, PLEASE. AND THAT'S THE APPROVAL OF THE 202022 2023 BUDGET AMENDMENTS H 4. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE WANT TO PULL ITEM H 4. WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF CONSENSUS IS NEEDED. I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PULL IN ANY AGENDA ITEM I ALSO NEED TO PULL H4. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT AS WELL. OKAY. JUST AS A REMINDER THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LET THE SUPERINTENDENT KNOW IN ADVANCE IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL ANYTHING OFF OF CONSENT SO THAT THE RELEVANT PEOPLE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS IT. IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, THEY'RE PREPARED FOR DISCUSSION. AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY EMAILS. DID YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAILS ON H FOUR? OK YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION AT LENGTH WITH MR. COVINGTON, SO I GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. [02:05:01] I JUST WANT TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY. DID YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY OR DID YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? SO I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE MR. HUFFINGTON IS HERE. SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY. I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE WHOLE BOARD TO HEAR IT BECAUSE I PERSONALLY, LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON, JUST THOUGHT THAT SHE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE NOT PRIVILEGED TOO. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION. DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS. BOARD FOR PULLING H4. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'LL PULL H FOUR. GO AHEAD. I DON'T KNOW IF I OBJECT, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAD PUT IN PLACE THAT WE NEED TO PULL AND LET STAFF KNOW. AND WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS HAPPENING A LOT. SO, YEAH, I'LL TELL YOU, MY HOUSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. MY INTERNET COMES AND GOES. IT'S A VERY DISRUPTIVE PART OF MY LIFE. MY COUSIN HAD A STROKE LAST WEEK. THAT'S TAKEN UP A LOT OF MY TIME. IF I COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN AND DIDN'T HAVE THESE DISTRACTIONS IN MY LIFE, I WOULD NOT BE PULLING THIS. BUT SOMETIMES LIFE GETS IN THE WAY. WE ARE REAL PEOPLE WITH REAL FAMILIES AND REAL CHALLENGES, AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO TAKE MUCH TIME. ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE ANY MOTION TO CLARIFY. THEY'LL BE PULLED FOR TWO AS A SEPARATE ACTION ITEM, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT PULLED OFF THE AGENDA. MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE ITEMS H ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN BY CONSENT. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. SEEING NONE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE'LL GO ON TO ACTION ITEMS AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH H 4 APPROVAL OF THE 2022 2023 BUDGET AMENDMENTS. [H.4. Approval of 2022-2023 Budget Amendments] AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR. BONE FOR WHATEVER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER CLARIFICATION YOU NEED. THANK YOU. SO FOR FUTURE, I ACTUALLY THINK ALL BUDGET AMENDMENTS SHOULD NEVER BE ON CONSENT. I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE PULLED, I BELIEVE. ACTUALLY MADE THOSE COMMENTS MANY TIMES. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A SHOCK. IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FIDELITY IN OUR BUDGET. SO ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, I DO APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US. IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. BUT I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS MONEY THAT YOU'RE MOVING FROM INSTRUCTION AND YOU'RE MOVING IT TO SOMETHING THAT IS BEING CALLED STUDENT RECRUITMENT SERVICES. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A HARD QUESTION, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE DEFINITION OF STUDENT RECRUITMENT SERVICES IS. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? WHAT IS THAT? AND IF YOU CAN EXPAND ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS. BACK WHEN WE WERE STARTING THE YEAR, REMEMBER, WE CONTRACTED WITH A VENDOR TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT OUR KIDS BACK TO THE DISTRICT FROM EITHER HOME SCHOOL, CHARTER SCHOOL OR KIDS THAT ARE ZONED IN OUR DISTRICT THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN ROUND ROCK ISD. AND SO THAT'S THE TITLE OF STUDENT RECRUITMENT. AND SO THAT VENDOR RECRUITED APPROXIMATELY 424 KIDS BACK TO OUR DISTRICT. AND SO TO PAY THE INVOICE, WE HAD TO REDIRECT OR AMEND A BUDGET TO PAY THAT INVOICE. AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR. PART OF THE REASON FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WAS FOR THAT PIECE. SO PART OF IT CAME OUT OF THE INSTRUCTION AND THE OTHER PIECE CAME DOWN IN ITEM F. SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS 424 NUMBER THEN BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER I THINK WE SAID THAT IT WOULD BE LIKE EIGHT OR 800 AND $900 PER STUDENT THAT THEY RECRUITED. AND I GUESS I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHEN THAT WAS DONE, I WAS ASSUMING THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THIS BUDGET. WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING RIGHT, YOU USUALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO PULL IT OUT OF INSTRUCTION THAT WASN'T PRESENTED TO US THAT WAY. SO AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE FIDELITY ON THIS FOR 24? ARE THEY GETTING CREDIT FOR ANYBODY THAT JUST DECIDED, HEY, HOMESCHOOLING WASN'T WORKING FOR US AND WE BROUGHT OUR KIDS BACK TO ROUND ROCK? I MEAN, HOW DOES THE SERVICE VERIFY THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THESE 424 BACK? OR ARE WE JUST PAYING THEM FOR EVERY STUDENT THAT RETURNED TO OUR CAMPUSES? THE CONTRACT CALL. REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. VALERIE, ARE WE OKAY TALKING ABOUT THIS MUCH DEPTH ON HOW THE RECRUITMENT WORKED? AND I MEAN, I THINK WE ARE, BUT I JUST WANT TO VERIFY. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE SEEKING SPECIFICITY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER OF RECRUITMENT, IT'S OKAY. [02:10:07] BUT IT NEEDS TO BE WITH REGARDS TO THE BUDGETED ALLOTMENT FOR THAT AND WHAT IT'S FOR. OKAY. I MEAN, WE POSTED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS IN THE PAST, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING OFF POSTING, SO IT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHY WE'RE PAYING THEM, WHAT WE'RE PAYING THEM AND WHY THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NEEDED. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M VERY. WELL, LET ME ANSWER THE PIECE ON THE MONEY PART FIRST. THE MONEY WAS NOT IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T GO OUT AND RECRUIT ANY OF THE KIDS, WE WOULDN'T NEED ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY. AND AS YOU RECALL, FOR EVERY CHILD THAT COMES BACK TO THE DISTRICT, WE GET $6,160. AND SO THEY GOT 800. AND I THINK THE NUMBER IS $50 FOR THE FIRST 250 KIDS. AND I THINK IT DROPPED TO 860 FOR ANYONE AFTER THAT. SO FOR EVERY CHILD THAT THEY RECRUITED BACK TO THE DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT GAINED $5,000. SO THE MONEY WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET. SO WHEN THE DOLLARS COME IN FROM THE STATE AND DO THE TAXES AND ALL THAT, IT WHEN WE SETTLE UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE IN THE REVENUE. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO BRING THE PUT THE DOLLARS IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY. TO TO PAY THE BILL TO MAKE SURE IT'S RECORDED IN THE RIGHT CODES AS FAR AS. VERIFYING THE KIDS THEY. THE COMPANY USES A STRICT PROCESS AS TO WHERE THEY SHOW, WHERE THEY WENT OUT AND CONTACTED PARENTS. AND I MEAN, I'M NOT PRIVILEGED TO THE CONVERSATIONS THEY HAVE WITH THE PARENTS, BUT THEY HAVE VERIFICATION OF CONTACT WITH THOSE PARENTS THAT TO THE KIDS THAT THEY RECRUITED TO COME BACK TO THE DISTRICT. I MEAN, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT OF INSTRUCTION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S. POSSIBLY A BENEFIT, BUT THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT, RIGHT. SO ACTUALLY, YOU ARE TAKING MONEY AWAY. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TAKING ALMOST $800,000 AWAY FROM INSTRUCTION ON THIS AND PUTTING $400,000 INTO A GENERAL ADMINISTRATION TO PAY FOR THIS RECRUITMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN THAT WE ARE MAKING $5,000 FOR OUT OF EVERY STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING TO OUR DISTRICT. SO WE ACTUALLY PUT IN MONEY BACK IN INSTRUCTION AND HELP PAY. I MEAN, THIS IS A WIN WIN SITUATION. THIS ACTUALLY CAN YOU CLARIFY THERE? SO THESE STUDENTS, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY ON THESE STUDENTS BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY'RE BRINGING BECAUSE THESE STUDENTS COST US MONEY. SO CAN YOU ACTUALLY VERIFY THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, EVERY STUDENT THAT'S IN OUR DISTRICT COSTS US A CERTAIN MONEY. SO IF THESE STUDENTS COST US $6,000. JUST I'M JUST THROWING OUT NUMBERS. 6000 AND THEN. BUT WE ONLY GET 5400. WELL, THEY'RE STILL COSTING US MONEY AND THEY'RE COSTING US 600. THEN WE ALSO PAID $800. SO ACTUALLY THEY'RE COSTING US 1400 DOLLARS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO PRETEND THAT THERE'S NOT RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT MONEY, THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING FREE MONEY. WE STILL THOSE STUDENTS REQUIRE TEACHERS. I MEAN, WE WANT ALL THE STUDENTS BACK. IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING OUR STUDENTS BACK. THIS IS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT IS BEING SPENT. 400,000 IS BEING PULLED OUT OF INSTRUCTION. THAT'S BEING TAKEN OUT OF INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS. AND IT'S ALREADY A VERY LOW IT'S ONLY 50% OF OUR BUDGET. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IF YOU GO BACK TO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE], THIS WAS ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS THAT WE KEEP SPENDING LESS AND LESS IN THIS DISTRICT ON DIRECT STUDENT SERVICES. AND THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE, THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS GOING TO IMPACT DIRECT STUDENT SERVICES, AND WE'RE SPENDING LESS AND LESS. AND YOU ACTUALLY HEAR THIS ALSO FROM THE SPREAD PARENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THE MONEY THAT'S FOR SPED FOR THEIR STUDENTS GOING TO THEIR STUDENTS. THEY DON'T WANT MONEY BEING PULLED TO GO AND RECRUIT STUDENTS AND SPLIT THE COST BETWEEN TWO STUDENTS. SO I'M JUST THIS WAS A SURPRISE CHANGE. CAN I MAY I ANSWER THAT, DR. BONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. SO THESE STUDENTS AND LET ME EVEN ADD MORE TO IT. SO THIS COMPANY SO LET'S SAY THEY GO OUT AND BRING BACK AS STUDENTS WHO WAS A FIFTH GRADER WHO WAS HOMESCHOOLED. RIGHT. SO NOT ONLY WE GET THAT STUDENTS BACK FOR, LIKE I SAID, $5,000, THAT STUDENTS MOST LIKELY WILL COME BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER. SO REALLY, WE ARE GAINING WE REGAIN THAT STUDENTS BACK WITH US AS AN IDEA FOR MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, MAYBE FIVE, MAYBE SIX IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY WITH US ALL THE WAY AND GRADUATE FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOLS. SO IT'S AS I SAID, IT'S A WIN WIN. IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY, WE SPEND $800, $150. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT'S A PHILOSOPHICAL POINT OF ORDER. A POINT OF ORDER. I WAS ACTUALLY HAVING IT WAS MY QUESTION. POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? [02:15:01] CAN YOU PLEASE STOP INTERRUPTING? THAT'S TWICE. ACTUALLY, I HAD THE FLOOR AND YOU MADE A POINT OF ORDER, WHICH IS THE CORRECT PROCEDURE. CAN YOU PLEASE STOP INTERRUPTING OUR SUPERINTENDENT? THERE'S TWICE NOW WHERE HE'S TRIED TO ANSWER, AND YOU'VE CUT HIM OFF. I THOUGHT I WAS ACTUALLY I HAD THE QUESTION AND HE ACTUALLY INTERRUPTED ME AND I THOUGHT HIM AND I WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOPIC. A QUESTION DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN INTERRUPT AND IT'S HAPPENED TWICE. AND I DID FOLLOW THE CORRECT PROCEDURE TO SAY POINT OF ORDER AND WAIT FOR THE PRESIDENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ME. CAN WE PLEASE LET HIM FINISH? BECAUSE HE'S GIVING ALL OF US INFORMATION AND YOU'VE CUT HIM OFF TWICE NOW. SO I DON'T GET TO HAVE THE FLOOR AND ASK MY QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE THE FLOOR. THE SUPERINTENDENT ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE FLOOR. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO BY PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES, DR. BONE HAS THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW AND SO WE CAN JUST GET IT TO WHERE THE SUPERINTENDENT CANNOT SPEAK UNTIL HE GETS THE FLOOR. YOU'RE BEING SO DISINGENUOUS. HE HAD THE FLOOR ONCE. NO. YOU'RE BEING DISINGENUOUS. YOU HAD THE FLOOR ONCE AND YOU DID NOT ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK. ACTUALLY, I NEVER GAVE HIM THE FLOOR. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR EVERYBODY TO STOP AND TAKE A BREATH. ARGUING ABOUT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES DOES NOT BENEFIT ANYBODY. ASK YOUR QUESTION. ALLOW DR. AZAIEZ TO ANSWER IT. WE DON'T NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT WHO SAID WHAT. WHO SAID WHEN AND ALL OF THAT. PLEASE, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD. YES. THE THING WAS, HE WASN'T ANSWERING A QUESTION AND HE WASN'T GIVING INFORMATION. HE WAS GIVING A PHILOSOPHICAL AND HE WAS GIVING HIS PHILOSOPHICAL VIEW THAT THESE CHILDREN WERE GOING TO STAY HERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT, BECAUSE THIS WAS MY QUESTION AND THIS WAS THE INFORMATION I WAS TRYING TO GET AND TRUSTEE HARRISON EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FLOOR AND ASK THEIR QUESTION AND LET THE SUPERINTENDENT HAVE WHATEVER TIME. BUT THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING, IS THAT THESE STUDENTS THAT COME BACK, WE COULD HAVE STUDENTS THAT LEAVE BECAUSE THOSE STUDENTS THIS IS TAKING MONEY FROM STUDENTS. WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM STUDENTS THIS YEAR FOR THIS PURPOSE. SO, I MEAN, IT'S FANTASTIC. I'VE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES. I WANT ALL THE STUDENTS IN ROUND ROCK ISD TO GO TO ROUND ROCK ISD SCHOOLS. BUT WHAT I AND I HEAR YOU THAT YEAH, THEY COULD STAY. BUT FOR EVERY STUDENT WE GAIN, WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR INSTRUCTION. AND YOU CAN HAVE STUDENTS LEAVE BECAUSE OF THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND AND WE ALL TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME. THIS IS A FAIRLY FRAGILE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME. AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE $800,000 AWAY FROM INSTRUCTION. AND TAKE HALF OF IT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO GO AND GET STUDENTS TO RETURN. I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT THAT NEXT YEAR. BUT HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE GOING TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF THIS? AND SO BOTTOM LINE IS, I HAVEN'T HEARD ENOUGH HERE TONIGHT THAT I CAN VOTE FOR THIS. I WAS HOPING I WOULD HEAR SOMETHING THAT WOULD. AND FOR ONE THING, I WOULD ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I WOULD HOPE THIS CONTRACT HAD MORE FIDELITY THAN THESE FOLKS CONTACTED SOME PEOPLE AND THEY DECIDED TO RETURN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THESE PEOPLE CONTACTED EVERYBODY IN ROUND ROCK ISD, THEY'RE GETTING A $400,000 CHECK ON THE BACK OF CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY MADE SOME PHONE CALLS AND SAID, YEP, WE CALLED EVERY PERSON THAT DOESN'T ATTEND YOUR SCHOOL. AND OH, LOOK. ALL THESE STUDENTS SHOWED UP. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THE CONTRACT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE I SURE HOPE IT'S MORE FIDELITY THAN WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO US. I YIELD THE FLOOR. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE LAST THING, AND I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME REAL QUICK. SO MOST OF THESE STUDENTS ARE NOT WE'RE NOT CREATING MOST LIKELY NEW CLASSES FOR THEM WHERE WE HIRE NEW TEACHERS. IN MOST CASES, THESE LIKE YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY OLD TOWN GETS ANOTHER THIRD GRADE TEACHER. MOST LIKELY WE HAVE THE TEACHER ALREADY AND THAT CLASS MAYBE HAVE 18 OR 19 STUDENTS. NOW THEY MAY END UP WITH 20 OR 21. SO REALLY, WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY RECRUITING A NEW TEACHER IN MOST CASES, BUT WE ADD IN $5,000 NOW TO THE BUDGET, WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE FOR OTHER THINGS, INCLUDING RESOURCES AND INSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR OUR TEACHERS AND STUDENT AND EVEN HELP US, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH WITH COMPENSATION. THANKS TO YOU. FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND ALMOST $9.2 MILLION THIS PAST FALL. REMEMBER, YOU ALLOWED US TO GIVE COMPENSATION OR BONUSES AND STIPEND FOR OUR TEACHERS. THE EXTRA MONEY HELP US MAKE THIS POSSIBLE FOR OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. SO WE REALLY FEEL AND BELIEVE AND WE WILL SHARE THE CONTRACT WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR OUR DISTRICT, AND BECAUSE IT'S PROVIDED MORE MONEY, MORE FUNDS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. SO IT'S WE BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS DECISION AS WELL AS ALSO ENSURING THAT OUR STUDENTS WHO BELONG TO ROUND ROCK ISD ARE NOW BACK WITH OUR DISTRICT SO WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH THE BEST EDUCATION. SO IT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY. I HAVE A FEW OTHER LIGHTS ON TRUSTEE WEIR. THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. IT WAS NOT PROPERLY PULLED UNTIL THE MEETING. [02:20:04] I THINK WE'VE HAD OUR STOP. LOOK AND LISTEN. I CALL THE QUESTION. SECOND, I HAVE A CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR OF STOPPING THE DISCUSSION AND VOTING. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FIVE TWO. I DON'T HAVE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE. UH. LET ME SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL WORDING IS FOR THAT ONE. WELL, I BOUGHT I MOVED AT THE BOARD APPROVED ITEM H FOR APPROVAL OF 2022 2023 BUDGET AMENDMENTS. SECOND, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DO YOU NEED THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA SINCE IT'S NO LONGER BY CONSENT? DO YOU NEED THAT EXACT LANGUAGE OR IS THAT ENOUGH TO APPROVE? THAT'S ENOUGH AS LONG AS YOU ALL APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. DO I NOT GET TO MAKE COMMENTS? WE'VE CALLED THE QUESTION. NO MORE COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. FIVE TWO. TAKES US TO ITEM I ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LEGAL FEES AND LEGAL REPRESENTATION OPTIONS. [I. ACTION ITEMS (Part 1 of 2)] THIS AGENDA ITEM DOES NOT HAVE A PARTICULAR TRUSTEES NAME NEXT TO IT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TRUSTEES THAT HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION THAT WE THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK IN JUNE, I THINK. IS THAT CORRECT? WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT LEGAL OPTIONS AND WE SAID WE WOULD COME BACK TO IT. AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. HILL FOR AN INTRODUCTION ON THIS TOPIC. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT IT IN JUNE BECAUSE I DIDN'T START UNTIL AFTER THE JUNE BOARD MEETING. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS WERE FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION. WE HAVE BEEN ABLY REPRESENTED BY IT COMMAND AND UPON IT FOR SOME TIME. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, THEN THAT IS ONE OPTION. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO EXPLORE ANY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH OTHER FIRMS THAT COULD BE DONE THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION, I MEAN, A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER. WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ANY PARTICULAR AREAS OR SEVERAL AREAS OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION OUTSIDE OF THE INTERNAL REPRESENTATION BY DISTRICT COUNCIL ON MOST DAY TO DAY STUFF. ANOTHER OPTION THAT THE DISTRICT HAS IS TO INCREASE LEGAL STAFFING. CURRENTLY, WE ARE NOT AT FULL STAFFING AND OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT GENERALLY WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE ATTORNEYS. RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE AND WE HAVE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD IS IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR WHAT OUR LEGAL FEES WERE COMPARED TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SINCE JULY. SINCE WE WERE MORE CLOSE TO BEING FULLY STAFFED. WE ARE WE HAVE CUT OUR LEGAL FEES IN HALF DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR. I THINK THAT'S PART BECAUSE WE ARE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN-HOUSE AND HAVING AND NOT HAVING TO RELY ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR ROUTINE THINGS LIKE REVIEWING CONTRACTS AND HANDLING, YOU KNOW, THE NORMAL STUFF THAT COMES AROUND. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS. IF THE BOARD WAS GOING TO ASK ME FOR ANY AREAS THAT I THINK WOULD BE. A GOOD USE OF YOUR FUNDS AS FAR AS LEGAL FEES WERE CONCERNED. I THINK THAT IF WE COULD LOOK AT MAYBE HIRING IN-HOUSE COUNSEL WITH SOME SPECIALTIES IN SPECIAL ED SPECIAL EDUCATION, I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL FEES THAT WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO BOARD COUNSEL, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT US IN LAWSUITS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GENERALLY DO NEED TO OUTSOURCE TO INDEPENDENT LAW, I MEAN, TO OUTSIDE LAW FIRMS. HOWEVER, SOME OF OUR SPECIAL ED MATTERS, I BELIEVE, COULD BE HANDLED IN-HOUSE IF WE HAD SUFFICIENT PERSONNEL. TRUSTEE HARRISON I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS NOT FULLY STAFFED, IS THAT A BUDGET ISSUE OR IS THAT A HIRING ISSUE? THAT'S BEEN A HIRING ISSUE. YOU GUYS, I'M SORRY. I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAD THREE ATTORNEYS AND WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, YOU JUST BROUGHT ME IN [02:25:08] IN DECEMBER, AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE WERE, SEE IF WE NEEDED TO FILL THAT OTHER POSITION. AND RECENTLY I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE WHERE THAT POSITION COULD BE BEST FILLED. BUT IT HAS BEEN A RECRUITMENT POSITION, A RECRUITMENT PROBLEM IN THE PAST, NOT A BUDGET PROBLEM. OKAY. SO THEN MAYBE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE DECIDE ON. OR IT STILL IS. WELL, THERE WOULD BE. SORRY, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FAR AWAY FROM ME. I WAS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE ON AS LONG AS WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ADDING ONE PERSON IF YOU WANT IT TO. IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT ADDING ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER DISTRICTS AROUND OUR SIZE AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE SLIGHTLY BIGGER STAFFS. I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF OUR LARGER DISTRICTS AROUND HERE. LIKE DALLAS ISD HAS A 13 ATTORNEYS IN-HOUSE. I BELIEVE FORT WORTH ISD IS GOING TO HAVE FIVE ATTORNEYS THERE ADDING THEIR FIFTH ATTORNEY. I KNOW THAT AUSTIN ISD IS AN ANOMALY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS IN FLUX, BUT A LOT OF THE DISTRICTS WITH CLOSE TO 50,000 STUDENTS ARE GOING TO LARGER IN-HOUSE STAFFS. SO I THINK THAT WE AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD ADD A BUDGET, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS AN OPTION THAT SOME OTHER DISTRICTS ARE. ANOTHER POSITION FOR BUDGET PURPOSES. I HAVE A POSITION THAT I'M GOING TO START RECRUITING FOR, BUT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT. A LOT OF FIRMS I MEAN, A LOT OF DISTRICTS ARE MOVING MORE IN-HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER YOUR COST. I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, TRUSTEE HARRISON I THINK BECAUSE WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD ALSO, LIKE WE WANTED TO WORK IN A WAY TO REDUCE OUR LEGAL FEES. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I THINK CINDY IS SAYING IS IF WE BECAUSE A BIG CHUNK OF OUR LEGAL FEES OR A PERCENTAGE REALLY A BIG PERCENTAGE IS BECAUSE OF WE GET SOME LITIGATION, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS AND THAT. AND LOOK AT THIS SPECIAL EDUCATION. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY SPECIALIZED AREA. NOT ANYONE CAN HANDLE IT. SO OFTENTIMES WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE IT. SO IF WE WERE LUCKY OR IF WE MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RECRUIT SOMEBODY WITH SPECIAL EDUCATION BACKGROUND IN LEGAL, THEN THAT HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE WHAT WE'RE SPENDING I'M SORRY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON LEGAL FEES IN THAT AREA AND THAT'S WHY SHE PROPOSED. IT'S UP TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT [INAUDIBLE]. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I THINK. REQUIRE LEGAL ADVICE. SO IS THERE A WAY TO GO INTO CLOSE? WE CAN DEFINITELY GO INTO CLOSE. CAN I GET ANY OTHER OUTSIDE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE THIS INTO CLOSED LATER. NEXT IS TRUSTEE WEIR AND THEN TRUSTEE WESTON. WELL, MY MAIN QUESTION YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED WHAT TYPE OF INTERNAL STAFF. SO, I MEAN, TO ME, I FEEL LIKE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. AND THEN IF. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE BUDGET ITEMS. ONCE THAT, IF YOU DO FIND SOMEBODY, THEN MAYBE NOT YET. MAYBE COME BACK AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT I HAD ACTUALLY REQUESTED WAS OUR LEGAL FEES ON THE WEBSITE. AND THE WAY WE DO IT NOW, IT'S VERY GENERAL YOU KNOW THE BOARD AND BY LAW FIRM AND WHAT I WAS HOPING AND I KNOW FOR SPECIAL ED IT WOULDN'T BE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS OR SOME CASES BUT IF WE COULD REALLY BREAK IT DOWN BY WHAT THOSE FIRMS ARE WORKING ON. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE FIRMS THAT ARE JUST DEALING WITH LAWSUITS AGAINST THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE FIRMS THAT ARE JUST DEALING WITH THE BOARD AND MAYBE NOT IN GENERAL DETAIL, BUT IF WE COULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS COURT CASE HAS COST US THIS MUCH EACH MONTH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE COSTING THE TAXPAYERS OF ROUND ROCK. WE CAN DO THAT. IT IS VERY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO, WE CAN DO THAT. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THOUGH, THE BILLS ARE NOT GENERALLY CATEGORIZED THAT WAY. SO THAT MEANS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT THIS AND WE BROUGHT MY STAFF IN AND SAID, HOW LONG HOW HARD WOULD THIS BE [02:30:02] TO PUT THEM IN LIKE LITIGATION? THIS IS LITIGATION. THIS IS SPECIAL ED. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE RATHER TIME CONSUMING FOR MY ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. AND BUT SHE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO DO IT IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE. AND I DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY PUT A BIG BURDEN ON ANYBODY BUT WHERE WE CAN, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S EASY, WHERE YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE STATE OF TEXAS VERSUS ROUND ROCK ISD. HOW MUCH DID THAT COST US, IF YOU KNOW ALL OF THOSE? I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S THOMPSON AND HORTON HAS JUST TWO CASES OR THREE CASES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT BREAK DOWN THOSE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW ISCHEMIA, PANIC IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LOT HARDER TO GO THROUGH. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN JUST ASK THEM TO AS THEY SEND OUR BILL TO SEPARATE IN WHATEVER CATEGORIES WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN START POSTING GENERAL SPECIAL ED, I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS ON THAT. SORRY. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE DISCUSS IS PROBABLY WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK. I'M SORRY, VALERIE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT BACK ON THE LAW FIRMS THAT WE USE. WE WILL ASK THEM TO BUILD US NOW MOVING FORWARD THE WAY OUR BOARD WANT US TO. THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, I CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK. I THINK WE USUALLY TRY TO BUILD SEPARATELY ANYWAY. WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT WE USUALLY TRY TO SEPARATE IF IT'S LIKE A MATTER OR IF IT'S GENERAL LEGAL, WE'LL KIND OF DO THE GENERAL BECAUSE IT'S A CATCH ALL, BUT USUALLY WE'LL TRY TO SEPARATE IT AND SAY WHAT IT'S FOR. BUT WE CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC. I THINK WITH REGARD TO LITIGATION MATTERS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE HARD. IT'S GOING TO BE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WORKING ON AND ONCE AGAIN, VALERIE, NOT PICKING ON YOU, BUT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE MOST DIFFERING CASES. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND I HATE TO PUT HER ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS IN PRIVATE PRACTICE, WHAT WAS HELPFUL TO SOME OF OUR CLIENTS AND ONCE AGAIN I REPRESENTED FORT WORTH ISD OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR A LONG TIME. WE USED TO DO A COVER SHEET THAT WOULD BREAK IT OUT AND IT WAS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER ON THE TOP SO THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE BILLS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR BOOKKEEPERS COULD PROBABLY DO. AND I'M SURE THAT THE OTHER FIRMS WOULD BE AMENABLE IF WE WANT TO TRY THAT. IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID, THE TIME CONSUMING PART IS IF OUR ASSISTANTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH BILL AND GO OK IS THIS LITIGATION, DOES THIS PIA, IS THIS WHATEVER THEY COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU? IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF WE TRY THIS FIRST. AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR GIVING THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS THESE THESE MATTERS. SO DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? PRESIDENT? DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? YEAH, I'M SEEING HEAD SHAKING ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. JUST SO I'M CLEAR, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THEN IS I'M GOING TO CONTACT THE FIRMS THAT ARE SENDING US THAT THAT ARE CURRENTLY REPRESENTING US IN DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THEN I'LL ASK THEM TO PUT COVER SHEETS ON EACH OF THEIR BILLS, STARTING WITH THEIR FEBRUARY BILLS, WHICH WILL BE FOR JANUARY TIME. SO THAT WILL START JANUARY TIME GENERALLY STARTS WILL GET SPILLED IN FEBRUARY. SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE THAT INFORMATION. MY FINAL ASK ON THAT TOPIC. WOULD COULD YOU ALSO KIND OF TRACK HOW MUCH YOUR STAFF IS SPENDING IN ACTUALLY COMPILING THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE MORE LABOR INTENSIVE IN THE BEGINNING, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AS A BOARD AND WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE STAFF TIME TRACKER OF MONITORING HOW MUCH TIME STAFF IS SPENT FULFILLING BOARD REQUESTS. SO ACTUALLY, DR. AZAIEZ, WOULD YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IF SHE MANAGES OR TRACKS HOW MUCH HER STAFF IS USING? IF THAT'S I WOULD LIKE US TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS A BOARD. IS THAT ALL YOU HAD? TRUSTEE WEIR ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE WESTON SO, AMY, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR AN ITEMIZATION OF A PARTICULAR COURT CASE OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO AND TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS INFORMATION JUST COMING TO US IN A BOARD UPDATE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FULL TRANSPARENCY ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT. IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE WEBSITE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO BETTER THAN STARTING IN JANUARY. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, MS. HILL. I MEAN, IF IT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY TOO BURDENSOME TO GO BEFORE JANUARY COMPREHEND. I UNDERSTAND. BUT AT LEAST FOR LITIGATION, CAN WE SAY IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, AT LEAST FOUR COURT CASES THAT WERE FILED, CAN WE EVEN IF THAT WAS BEFORE JANUARY? I THINK I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT THE EASY ONES LIKE LIKE I SAID, I KNOW FOR SPECIAL ED, WE PROBABLY CAN'T BREAK THEM OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT STUDENTS. BUT THE ONES THAT WE CAN BREAK OUT THAT ARE EASY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S JUST ONE FIRM OR TWO FIRMS THAT ARE DOING IT. IF SOMEONE COULD REVIEW IT AND PUT BACK. [02:35:03] WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T WANT TO START IN JANUARY FOR THAT. YEAH, NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I WOULD LOVE THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN. BUT I WOULD MY ONLY I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST PICK A WINDOW OF LIKE 12 MONTHS, LIKE I WOULD WANT IF WE'VE GOT AN ACTIVE CASE, I'D WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S ACTIVE AS OF TODAY. YEAH, IF IT'S ACTIVE, THEN I WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPENT ON IT EVEN BEFORE TODAY. YEAH, OKAY. YEAH, BUT I'M UP TO WHATEVER THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD IS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SET SOME ARBITRARY TIME FRAME OF LIKE, LET'S JUST LOOK AT 12 MONTHS AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT ARE LIKE 18 MONTHS OLD, YOU KNOW, AND YOU MISS THE FIRST, THE THIRD OF THE BILLING. I WOULD WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S ACTIVE THAT WE BEFORE I GET TO MY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY AROUND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR HERE. SO I'VE STATED WHAT I'D LIKE. SO I GUESS JUST LET ME KNOW AND THEN I'LL GET TO. SO DO I HAVE CONSENSUS FOR US TO ANY ACTIVE LITIGATION THAT WE SUMMARIZE HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT BY CASE? I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO MS. HILL ABOUT THE BURDEN THAT PUTS ON STAFF AND THE TIMELINE. I MEAN, IT MAY MEAN ALSO THAT INFORMATION DOESN'T COME RIGHT AWAY. IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO CAN WE DISCUSS THAT WITH YOUR CURRENT STAFFING? I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE ARE CODED. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO NEED TO DO IS WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY ACTIVE LITIGATION MATTERS AND THAT SHOULD NOT. I AM ANTICIPATING THAT NOT BEING A PROBLEM. I'LL LOOK AT THE ACTIVE LITIGATION MATTERS AND HAVE MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT AND MY STAFF PULL THE BILLS FOR ALL OF THOSE. I THINK THAT IS DOABLE AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVE LITIGATION RIGHT NOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY LITIGATION, BECAUSE A LOT OF MATTERS ARE HAVE BEEN DISPOSED OF. SO IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ACTIVE LITIGATION, I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN START DOING IN FEBRUARY. I CAN PROBABLY GET THAT TO THE BOARD SOONER, BUT I THINK I CAN START POSTING THAT WHEN WE POST THE NEW BILLS AND TRUSTEES. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, EVEN THOUGH MS. HILL IS SUPER EASY TO WORK WITH, WE CANNOT DIRECT HER. SO THIS WOULD GO THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT THAT THE WOULD YOU MIND SAYING THAT INTO YOUR MICROPHONE IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS. WE WILL, BUT I HAVE TO CHECK AND ASK OBVIOUSLY. MS. HILL CINDY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALSO HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE. RIGHT. BUT I REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE MS. HARRISON COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR FOR DOING FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T ADD MORE BURDEN TO THEIR PLATE. SO IF WE GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE'LL TALK WITH THEM, SEE HOW MANY ACTIVE CASES AND IF WE CAN DO IT WITHIN A WEEK, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE PURSUE WITHIN A WEEK. IF IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN A WEEK, WE ALSO INFORM YOU AND MAKE SURE IT HAPPENED. THEN IT HAPPENS. THEN I'LL MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNOW. THAT IS UNLESS YOU KNOW, FELICIA KILLS ME TOMORROW MORNING. SO IF I COULD JUST SAY AS SOMEBODY WHO. SO I WORKED FOR YEARS IN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FIRM THAT OPERATED ON BILLABLE HOURS, I SEE YOU NODDING THAT. THAT IS ALL A LAW FIRM IS FOR ME. IT WAS AN ENGINEERING FIRM. IT'S JUST BILLABLE HOURS. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU STAY IN BUSINESS IS TO KEEP TRACK OF HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE MAKING ON PROJECTS. SO I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF ANY OF THESE LAW FIRMS, IF WHEN WE REACH OUT TO THEM, IF THEY WOULDN'T JUST PULL UP A SPREADSHEET AND INSTANTLY SHE'S NODDING, BE ABLE TO TELL US. SO ANYBODY WHO'S WORKED IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR UNDERSTANDS HOW THIS IS NOT BURDENSOME. AND QUITE HONESTLY, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS PAID FOR LAWYERS PERSONALLY, I KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY I'M PAYING MY LAWYERS. SO I THINK IT'S. IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON? CAN WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER? I BELIEVE AT THE DIAS, WE CAN'T HAVE SIDE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN TRUSTEES. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A POLICY. THAT'S A RULE EITHER. BUT I'M JUST GETTING CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SHE NEEDS TO ASK. TRUSTEE BONE. AND SO I WAS JUST GETTING CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SHE NEEDS TO ASK IN CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. WELL, IT IS MY I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS VALUABLE FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR. SO ANYBODY WHO'S WORKED IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN A COMPANY THAT'S TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT, STAY IN BUSINESS, BE COMPETITIVE IN THE COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT, UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY KEEP TRACK. AND ALSO, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS PAID LAWYERS, I'VE NEVER BEEN UNAWARE OF HOW MUCH MONEY I'M SPENDING ON A LAWSUIT OR IN LITIGATION. AND SO I THINK I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO REALLY PAUSE IF WE DON'T IF WE AS TRUSTEES, THE ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CANNOT SAY THAT WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON LITIGATION, THAT IS A BIGGER PROBLEM. SO I'M GLAD THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO DO THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THAT TRANSPARENCY, I WILL SAY SO. [02:40:03] MADAM CHAIR, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC I KNOW I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM I TO WHO ELSE CAN YOU I'M SORRY, I1. WELL, TRUSTEE WEIR WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE THE LEGAL BILLS AND CHANGING HOW IT'S POSTED. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK IN MY EMAILS. BUT THAT WAS AT LEAST THE THREE OF THEM. IT WAS AT LEAST THREE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T PUT IT WASN'T AN INDIVIDUAL REQUEST. RIGHT. AND I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE. AMBER AND I WERE ACTUALLY IN A MEETING LAST FALL ON THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, AND SHE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT BEING FRUSTRATED BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND ON LEGAL FEES. AND I LOOKED ACROSS THE TABLE AT HER AND I SAID, I HAVE THAT EXACT SAME CONCERN. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. LET'S EXAMINE OPTIONS. BUT FOR ME, IT WASN'T HOW CAN WE HIRE MORE LAWYERS TO GO AFTER SPED PARENTS OR TO FIGHT SPED PARENTS? FOR ME, THAT WAS NOT THE SPIRIT AND INTENT. THE SPIRIT AND INTENT FOR ME. AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S HOW IT KIND OF CAME OFF TO ME. SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN USED. I WANT TO SPEND LESS MONEY ON LEGAL FEES, NOT MORE MONEY. I WANT THE NEEDLE TO GO IN REVERSE, NOT UP. SO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME HERE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HIRING MORE LAWYERS IS NOT PARTICULARLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. I THINK, VALERIE, I THINK WE PAY ISCHEMIA AND PANIC LIKE $4,000 EVERY TIME YOU COME TO A BOARD MEETING. I'M NOT SURE. AND SO I THINK THIS IS MORE A DELIBERATIVE TOPIC FOR ME IN THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A DELIBERATIVE TALK TOPIC FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS. HOW MUCH OF ALL IS LAWYERS DO WE NEED? BECAUSE BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, I THINK A LOT OF SOME OF THE SOURCE OF SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS COMES FROM THESE IN-HOUSE LAWYERS. AND BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE INVOICES THAT COME THROUGH ON THE BOARD UPDATE AND IT'S LIKE BOARD MATTERS, BOARD MATTERS AND IT'S LIKE DIFFERENT TRUSTEES OR, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO THESE LAWYERS. AND I'M GOING I'M NOT REACHING OUT TO ANY LAWYERS. LIKE WE'RE JUST RACKING UP THESE LEGAL FEES. AND AGAIN, I THINK AS TRUSTEES, YOU KNOW, IN OUR REAL LIVES, WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND BECAUSE IT'S OUR MONEY. BUT ACTUALLY, AS TRUSTEES, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MONEY IS OUR MONEY, TOO. AND WE SHOULD CARE JUST AS MUCH ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK WE JUST THINK, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST GO. I'LL JUST CALL THE LAWYER. AND SO I'M NOT FOR HIRING MORE LAWYERS. TO, YOU KNOW, RESIST THE CONCERNS OF PARENTS WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN SPECIAL EDUCATION IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. FOR ME, THE DISCUSSION IS I DON'T KNOW THAT IT COMES FROM MS. HILL. I THINK IT COMES FROM THIS DAIS. ABOUT? DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE RELYING ON ALL THESE LAWYERS AND ENGAGING ALL THESE LAWYERS FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING THEM FOR? THAT I DON'T THINK HAVE HELPED STUDENTS. SO THAT'S MY THAT'S WHERE I'LL START. SO I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ONLY ON I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT LOOKED AT POSSIBLY FILLING OUR THIRD SPACE IS IF WE'RE SPENDING $350,000 ON AN EXTERNAL LAW FIRM TO DEFEND US IN SPECIAL EDUCATION AND WE CAN HIRE AN IN-HOUSE LAWYER. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH AN IN-HOUSE, BUT LET'S SAY 180,000. THEN WE HAVE CUT OUR LEGAL BILLS BY $170,000 BY HAVING IN-HOUSE REPRESENTATION RATHER THAN GOING TO AN OUTSIDE FIRM THAT'S GOING TO CHARGE US SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND $400 AN HOUR, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM 300 OR $400 AN HOUR TO SIT IN THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY THAT WOULD BE WHY I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF HIRING AN IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY AS LONG AS THAT AMOUNT WAS UNDER WHAT WE SPENT. THAT'S HIS JOB IF HE FEELS LIKE HE NEEDS TO HIRE ANOTHER ATTORNEY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CONVERSATION FOR THIS BOARD. I MEAN, SHE RUNS THE SHOP. SHE HAS A BOSS. I WOULD THINK, JUST LIKE IF WE NEED ANOTHER FIFTH GRADE TEACHER, WE DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT THAT UP HERE. FOR ME, THIS AGENDA ITEM ISN'T ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A NO BRAINER. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU IF IT'S CHEAPER TO OUTSOURCE SOMETHING OR IF IT'S CHEAPER TO BRING IT IN-HOUSE, LIKE MAKE THOSE STAFFING DECISIONS, FOR ME, MY CONCERN IS THE LEGAL FILLS FROM THE BOARD. DOES THAT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION FOR ME? YES, I DO. AND I GUESS IT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY. I MEAN, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WAS SPENDING 3 TO 4000 FOR ME TO ATTEND OUR BOARD MEETING. I THINK THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE'D CERTAINLY NEED AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY UP HERE, ESPECIALLY IN GRIEVANCES, BECAUSE IT IS AN ADVERSARIAL POSITION BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADMINISTRATION REPRESENTS ADMINISTRATION, AND WE NEED SOMEBODY TO CONSULT. SO I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE NEED BOARD COUNSEL. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED BOARD COUNSEL AT EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT WE OPEN OUR DOORS. AND SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT GOES BACK TO, WE WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT AN RFQ BECAUSE PERHAPS [INAUDIBLE] DOESN'T WANT THAT KIND OF [02:45:02] RELATIONSHIP AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE ONLY WANT TO COME TO GRIEVANCES AND THEN BE ON CALL FOR AGENDA REVIEWS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BUT SO, YES, THAT IS WHAT THE LEVEL OF DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE HERE. AND WE HAVE ALSO WE MODIFIED THE AGREEMENT WITH [INAUDIBLE] I BELIEVE, BACK IN JUNE WHERE THEY WERE LIKE OUR REQUIRED FIRM. AND SO WE ON THIS DIAS HAVE SAID WE WILL USE OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS TO DEFEND US IN MATTERS. AND SO, YES, THAT IS A SUPERINTENDENT ISSUE, BUT WE HAVE STEPPED OVER THAT LINE ALREADY. AND SO WE NEED TO DECIDE ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THESE OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS OR ARE WE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MAKE THAT BEST DECISION MOVING FORWARD AS TO WHAT'S THE BEST COST EFFECTIVE DECISION MOVING FORWARD? THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM. WELL, AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE GO TO ALL THESE CONFERENCES AND YOU GET TO MEET THIS AMAZING NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES AND YOU GET TO MEET SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS FROM AROUND THE STATE. AND I'VE LEARNED THAT THERE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT DO NOT HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL IN-HOUSE. IF YOU DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, IT GOES TO AN EXTERNAL FIRM THAT MAYBE HANDLES MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CITY COUNCILS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND SO I DON'T I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME TO THE TABLE WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY, THERE IS WE'RE NOT CONFINED OR CONSTRAINED BY HISTORY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO I FOR ME TO HAVE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW. YEAH, OKAY. DALLAS ISD HAS 13. IN-HOUSE LAWYERS. THERE ARE ALSO, I THINK, A C RATED SCHOOL DISTRICT LIKE I DON'T ASPIRE TO THAT. SO I ASPIRE TO HOW CAN WE BE IS THERE NOT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN BE A BETTER STEWARD OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT ARE INTENDED TO EDUCATE CHILDREN? THAT'S THE INTENTION OF THAT MONEY. NOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LEGAL FEES AND LEGAL CONCERNS AND LEGAL MATTERS THAT COME UP, BUT IS IS THERE MORE DISCIPLINE THAT'S NEEDED? IS IT JUST A REVISITING OF AN ANTIQUATED PROCESS? THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AND MY STARTING POINTS FOR DISCUSSION. I HAVE TWO OTHER LIGHTS ON RIGHT NOW, TRUSTEE HARRISON AND THEN TRUSTEE BONE. TRUSTEE BONE. SURE. FOR ONE THING. THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING THIS ON. I THINK WE'VE HAD ALL OF US HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR LEGAL FEES AND OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATION. AND SO I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE THIS. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDY IN OUR DISTRICT AND UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. THAT'S BEEN VERY DISRUPTIVE, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE I COULDN'T HARDLY HEAR TRUSTEE WESTON ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THERE'S THE NOISE. SO A LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDY I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP DR. AZAIEZ FIGURE OUT WHERE WE DO NEED LEGAL, BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A SPED LAWYER, BUT DO WE NEED THEM ALL THE TIME? RIGHT. LIKE, DOES IT EBB AND FLOW? AND WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE SPED LAWYER? I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HIRING A DOCTOR FOR SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE AND YOU NEED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DOCTOR. RIGHT? SO WHILE IT SOUNDS GREAT IN PRACTICE, I THINK AN EFFICIENCY STUDY WOULD LET US SEE WHERE WE COULD USE A FULL TIME LEGAL AND WHERE WE MAY NOT. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ACTUALLY HAVING OUR IN-HOUSE LEGAL AND OUR BOARD LEGAL, THIS WAS BEFORE I WAS ON THE BOARD, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S BEEN NOT THAT MANY YEARS. IT WAS THIS WHY YOU GUYS WERE ON THE BOARD? NO, THIS WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS, 2017, WHEN WE STARTED AN INTERNAL GENERAL COUNSEL 2017. AND I WOULD LIKE TO AND THIS IS WHY I ASKED FOR THE 2015. THE REASON I LIKE TO ASK FOR THE EFFICIENCY STUDY IS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE THAT TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF FEES THAT WE HAVE PAID OUT AS A DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, HAVING LEGAL COUNSEL IN HOUSE VERSUS OTHER COUNSEL, BECAUSE THERE IS OTHER CONVERSATIONS I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AROUND THIS BECAUSE WE CAN HIRE A FIRM WHEN WE GO TO THESE TACIT TAB EVENTS. I'VE GONE INTO THE CONFERENCE CENTERS WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE COMPANIES AND I'VE TALKED TO THE LEGAL SERVICES. I'M JUST VERY INTERESTED IN HOW THEY DO IT. AND THERE ARE THESE CORPORATIONS THAT ACTUALLY WILL SET BASICALLY IN-HOUSE LEGAL PERSON IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE MUSCLE WOULD BE ACTUALLY SHE JUST WOULDN'T WORK FOR THE DISTRICT, SHE WOULD WORK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT THAT MEANS AT SOME POINT, IF WE DON'T HAVE FOR A WEEK, WE DIDN'T THE DISTRICT DIDN'T HAVE WORK FOR MS. HILL. SHE COULD BE DOING WORK FOR THEIR COMPANY AND TAKING UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WORK SHARING. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. PROBABLY. I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED A FULL TIME. BUT I WOULD LIKE THIS EFFICIENCY STUDY AND REALLY UNDERSTAND AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WITH THAT EFFICIENCY STUDY, I'M LOOKING FOR A VERY IN-DEPTH ONE BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, YEAH, WE COULD HAVE SOME IN-HOUSE LAWYERS, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT LAWYER DOING SOMETHING, JUST LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT DOCTOR DOING [02:50:06] SOMETHING, IT CAN COST YOU MONEY. AND SO I WOULD ALSO KIND OF LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES AWAY OUR ABILITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVEN SPED CASES AREN'T ALL THE SAME. SO SOMETIMES YOU NEED VERY SPECIFIC SPEND EXPERTISE. AND SO THEY'RE STILL REACHING OUT. SO I WOULD LIKE A VERY DETAILED LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDY IS WHAT I WOULD BE ASKING FOR. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE BOARD BE INTERESTED IN, BUT I WOULD BE. SO I CAN LOOK FOR A CONSENSUS. WHAT I WOULD NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT EXACTLY THAT ENTAILS, LIKE WHAT A LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDY IS, BECAUSE I'M NOT CERTAIN I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. SO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK AT IS A LOOK AT ALL THE LEGAL FEES THAT WE GET IT LIKE. SO IF YOU HAVE A STUDY FIRM, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO DO THE EFFICIENCY STUDY. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE DOING THIS FOR ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. THEY'RE DOING BUILDING EFFICIENCY STUDIES. I WOULD THINK THOSE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. BUT YES, IT WOULD COST US MONEY. BUT IT'S YOU SPEND A LITTLE MONEY TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY, MAYBE WE DON'T DO IT RIGHT, BUT IF IT'S A FEW THOUSAND BUCKS, IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT. IT WOULD ALSO. THE OTHER THING IS IT'S ALSO VERY HELPFUL. IT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP MS. HILL UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY WOULD LOOK AT ALL THE DATA. IT WOULD BE A DATA DRIVEN DECISION, RIGHT? IT WOULD HELP HER SEE, LIKE THIS IS WHERE YOU COULD REALLY USE THE EXPERTISE. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOU NEED A SPREAD, BUT ACTUALLY YOU SPEND A LOT OF LITIGATION AND A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS. SO IT WOULD BASICALLY LOOK AT THE TIME, THE MONEY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING LEGAL FEES ON AND KIND OF GIVE YOU DIRECTION AND DATA ON WHERE YOU SHOULD SPEND YOUR LEGAL FEES. AND LET US MAKE SOME OF THESE CHOICES THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE HERE I SEE WE'RE JUST THROWING STUFF OUT AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S NO DATA BEHIND THIS. SO I GUESS MY INITIAL LEGAL FEES. SORRY. NO, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. I APOLOGIZE. MY LAST PART OF UNDERSTANDING THAT IS IF THIS IS A GOVERNANCE DECISION OR IF THIS IS A MANAGEMENT DECISION. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY OTHER LIKE, WOULD WE DO AN EFFICIENCY STUDY FROM THE BOARD TO LOOK AT OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAM OR WOULD THAT COME FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT? SO THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND. IS THIS A ARE WE DIPPING TOO FAR BELOW THE GOVERNANCE LINE OR IS THIS A MANAGEMENT DECISION TO DO AN EFFICIENCY STUDY LIKE THAT? WELL, I THINK I THINK THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION TO ACTUALLY HAVE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL. THAT IS NOT A AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. THAT WAS A BOARD DECISION BACK IN 2015. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GIVING THE BOARD I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO BENEFITS HERE. IT WOULD GIVE THE BOARD INFORMATION TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. AND WE ALSO NEED THIS BECAUSE WE DO HIRE OUR ATTORNEY. SHE MOVED. I'M LIKE, WAIT, YEAH. SO WE HAVE OUR OWN ATTORNEYS THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE VALERIE HERE OR NOT? SO I THINK IT WOULD HELP US MAKE THAT DECISION. I'M JUST SAYING IT WOULD ALSO HELP DR. AZAIEZ AND IT WOULD HELP [INAUIBLE]. SO I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S IN OUR PURVIEW, BUT IT WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE BENEFITS ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THIS HAPPENED IN 2015 AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS GONE BACK AND REVIEWED. WAS THAT A GOOD DECISION, BAD DECISION? DOES IT NEED TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY AND IT MIGHT BE TIME. A COMMENT ABOUT HER EFFICIENCY. SO THIS IS WHERE IT'S SEVEN HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE, BECAUSE I'M FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LIKE WHEN AMBER AND I WERE TOGETHER LAST YEAR AND THIS CAME UP, WE BOTH HAVE THIS CONCERN. BUT REALLY, WE DO NEED TO START WE NEED TO GET SOME DATA. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, MARY. I MEAN WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S CURRENTLY A FACILITIES AUDIT GOING ON, RIGHT? DR. AZAIEZ? AND I KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MAXED OUT THEIR GOLDEN PENNIES IN THEIR TAX RATE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO PERFORM AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT OF THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE FIRMS THAT I THINK COULD DO THIS. AND BUT YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, AMBER, BECAUSE THE LEGAL OFFICE REPORTS TO DR. AZAIEZ. AND I THINK REALLY MY CONCERN IS THE BOARD COUNCIL ANYWAY. SO MAYBE THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY THIS DISCUSSION IS GOOD, RIGHT, THAT YOU BRING UP A CONCERN AND THEN YOU TALK THROUGH IT. SO I THINK MARY'S IDEA OF GETTING SOME DATA I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT AND AUDIT AND THEN YOU'RE SORT OF BRINGING THIS UP ABOUT MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO GET IN THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, IF HE NEEDS ANOTHER LAWYER OR WANTS TO FIRE A LAWYER OR WANTS TO DO THIS OR THAT, HE PROBABLY JUST NEEDS TO DO IT. I WOULD LIKE SOME SCRUTINY IN AN AUDIT, I THINK, ON THE [INAUDIBLE], BECAUSE WE'RE GOING ON FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS OF A RELATIONSHIP HERE. LET'S HIRE AN EXTERNAL. AND WHEN I SAY EXTERNAL, I MEAN EXTERNAL. I DON'T MEAN [INAUDIBLE]FRIEND. I DON'T MEAN THEIR COLLEAGUE, I DON'T MEAN THEIR FORMER COLLEAGUE, I MEAN EXTERNAL AND GO THROUGH THOSE BILLS, MAKE SENSE OF THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU START WITH CHARGING THIS AGENCY AND I MEAN, MARY, YOU'VE DONE THIS KIND OF STUFF MORE THAN ME. [02:55:07] BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I IF WE HAD A GOAL, I THINK I THINK THE STATEMENT OF WORK TO THEM IS IF WE NEEDED TO CUT THE SPENDING TO ISCHEMIA AND PANIC BY 50%, HOW COULD WE DO THAT? IF WE NEEDED TO CUT IT BY 25%? HOW COULD WE CUT IT? WHAT WOULD WE SACRIFICE IF WE DID THAT? HOW WOULD THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS IF WE DID THAT? SO I DON'T THINK IT REALLY HAS TO BE ROCKET SCIENCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME QUESTIONS TO TO CHARGE A FIRM WITH IT SHOULD BRING US ANSWERS BECAUSE IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA, IT'LL END UP COSTING YOU MONEY, MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. YOU'LL REGRET IT FOREVER. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU. BUT MY GUESS IS THAT IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A FEW NUGGETS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN MAYBE AWARE OF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY USING OUR OWN MONEY TO WRITE THESE CHECKS EVERY MONTH. THAT I THINK WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY MAKING A CHANGE. I HAVE A FEW MORE LIGHTS ON. I'M NOT GOING TO FORGET YOUR RECOMMENDATION. TRUSTEE BONE SO I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO IT. FIRST WAS TIFFANIE TRUSTEE HARRISON. I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM TRUSTEE ZARATE FIRST, SO I HAVE TWO OTHER LIGHTS ON BEFORE HIM. OH, OKAY. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS THAT ARE TRUTHFUL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HELPFUL. LIKE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A BOARD HOW MUCH WE'RE COSTING AND LEGAL. LIKE, IT'S LITERALLY OUR BEHAVIOR AND SOME OF OUR BEHAVIORS THAT ARE COSTING. TAXPAYERS IN THE DISTRICT. SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALMOST DISINGENUOUS TO BE LIKE WE'RE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY. HOW ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY? BUT THEN WE'RE LITERALLY CAUSING MONEY TO BE SPENT. AND I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TEA MONITOR THEIR INVESTIGATIONS. I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER BE WITHOUT COUNSEL IN THE ROOM TO PROTECT THE DISTRICT AND OURSELVES. AND THAT IS A REALLY WEIGHTY AND EXPENSIVE THING. BUT THAT'S MY VIEW. I REALLY THINK WE NEED THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE WE'RE LITIGIOUS WITHIN OURSELVES. AND THAT'S DEEPLY CONCERNING. BUT THEN, LIKE, WE'RE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM. I SAY WE I'M NOT EVEN POINTING FINGERS, BUT WE'RE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM IN FIGHTING AND SUING WITHIN OURSELVES AND PARTICIPATING IN BEHAVIOR THAT IS. RISKY. TO THE DISTRICT. SO I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE DISCUSS ANY OF THIS WITHOUT DISCUSSING THAT, NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, I ALMOST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO REALLY DELVE AS DEEP AS WE NEED TO ON THIS TOPIC. AND I HEAR THE CALL FOR DATA. BUT EVEN LIKE ALL THE FIRMS THAT DO WHAT? LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED AN AUDIT. I JUST THINK AND PERHAPS THIS WOULD MEAN THAT SOME OF THIS WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER MEETING AND PERHAPS ENCLOSED TO DO LIKE THAT OVERVIEW OF ALL THE LITIGATION, ALL THE FIRMS, ALL THE BILLS AND I KNOW ALL OF THAT CAN'T ALWAYS BE DONE AND OPEN, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S HOW DEEP WE NEED TO GO IN ORDER TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS. AND I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE TIMELINE, LIKE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ENTERTAINING OTHER COUNSEL FOR BOARD COUNSEL, IS THIS ON A CERTAIN TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION OR PUT OUT THE IT'S NOT RFP, BUT PUT THAT OUT, RFQ. SO ARE WE TIME LIMITED IN THIS DECISION OR MIGHT WE TABLE THIS TO GET A CLEARER, LARGER, BROADER PICTURE OF WHAT THE CURRENT LEGAL SCOPE IS? TRUSTEE. WEIR. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT WAS JUST SAID. I. BEFORE I COULD AGREE TO ANY KIND OF AUDIT OR STUDY OR ANYTHING, I WOULD FIRST OF ALL, NEED TO KNOW IF A COMPANY EXISTS AND HOW MUCH THE COST WOULD BE. I DON'T WANT TO JUST VOTE ON SOMETHING HERE TONIGHT THAT'S PRETTY NEBULOUS. I THINK ONCE WE START SEEING BREAKDOWNS, WE MIGHT ALREADY INTERNALLY START GETTING THAT AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ONCE WE HAVE BREAKDOWNS OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ARE RATHER THAN I MEAN, I KNOW INITIALLY WE IN 2018 TRUSTEE LANDRUM AND I GOT I MEAN I HAD A HUGE SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE LEGAL FEES THAT I SAT THROUGH AND SORTED AND PUT AND MADE A TABLE AND IT WAS VERY LABOR AND TIME. YEAH, IT WAS HUGE AND. I MEAN, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON STAFF. BUT. I THINK JUST SORT OF THROWING IT OUT THERE THAT WE NEED ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COST. [03:00:03] WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT. SERVICES EXIST IN THAT AREA. WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A BREAKDOWN THAT WE COULD JUST DO INTERNALLY TO GET US STARTED ON THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD GET IT STARTED INTERNALLY AND THEN AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IF WE NEED SOMETHING MORE AFTER THAT. TRUSTEE ZARATE YEAH, JUST ECHOING WHAT WAS JUST SAID, ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO KNOW, LIKE WHAT AN EFFICIENCY STUDY IS, WHERE IT PERTAINS TO LAW, AND ALSO HOW MUCH DOES IT COST. ALSO, WHO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD DO THAT. I FOR ME, IT'S THIS THING WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLABLE VERSUS SALARIED HOURS. SO, I MEAN, THE SOLUTION MIGHT ACTUALLY BE AND THIS IS JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MORE LAWYERS THAT WORK FOR THE DISTRICT THAT ARE SALARIED THAT NO OFFENSE TO VALERIE AND HER FIRM, I KNOW THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE PAID FOR WHAT THEY DO AND THEY MAKE THE PROPER AMOUNT. BUT IF THERE WERE IF WE ALLOWED DOCTOR, AS I USED TO HIRE MORE LAWYERS SO THAT WE COVERED THOSE AREAS, THAT WE'RE WORRIED THAT WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY ON OR, YOU KNOW, THEN WE DO KIND OF GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY WHO'S SITTING AROUND, BUT THAT'S WHERE CYNTHIA COMES IN AND SHE HAS TO HIRE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WELL VERSED IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND BRING THEM IN AND WORK AS A TEAM. I WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR AN AUDIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TONIGHT, FOR SURE. I'D WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY. I'M ALSO, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT ON THIS BOARD, VERY NEW. SO I'D LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. THANKS. CAN I JUST ADD ONE LAST COMMENT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING IN, BUT THE ONE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IN DEFENSE OF HAVING A SPED ATTORNEY ON STAFF IS THAT THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT WOULD BE ADVERSARIAL AT ALL TIMES. BUT IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I WOULD THINK THAT HAVING SOMEONE ON STAFF WHO COULD TELL THE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE PEOPLE AT THE SCHOOL, NO, YOU LEGALLY HAVE TO DO THAT FOR THIS PARENT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A BENEFIT TO OUR PARENTS AND A BENEFIT TO OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO DON'T KNOW THE LAW TO HAVE SOMEBODY THEY COULD PICK UP IN STAFF AND CALL AT ANY TIME AND SAY, I'M IN AN ARD RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. CAN I GET SOME ACTUAL LEGAL ADVICE I THINK WOULD BE INVALUABLE TO OUR DISTRICT AND TO OUR PARENTS? YEAH, AND PERHAPS I WASN'T AND I'M SORRY I WASN'T CLEAR WHEN I SAID WE HIRE US, BUT IT WASN'T TO FIGHT OUR SPED PARENTS. I DID HAVE A BACKGROUND IN SPECIAL ED LAW. I DON'T. I THINK SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT MY MOTHER USED TO BE A DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL ED, SO THAT'S WHERE MY HEART IS. BUT IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE I'VE DONE THAT ON A DAILY BASIS. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE GET WE GET A SITUATION WHERE THE PARENTS ARE BRINGING IN AN ATTORNEY. AND SO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO CAN NECESSARILY WALK THROUGH THE YOU KNOW, A POTENTIALLY CONTENTIOUS ARD, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO BRING OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS AND SOMETIMES THAT JUST ESCALATES THINGS. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I USED TO MANAGE A LAW FIRM, SO I'M VERY AWARE OF WE CAN'T JUST HAVE SOMEONE SITTING THERE. I WOULDN'T JUST HAVE SOMEONE WHO DID NOTHING BUT SPED. IF WE BROUGHT SOMEONE IN, I'D BE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. LIKE I SAID, I JUST WE'VE DROPPED OUR ATTORNEYS FEES SINCE I'VE JOINED BY ABOUT $500,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR AND THE SECOND HALF. NOW, THAT'S I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, WE HIRED ME GREAT. BUT THAT BUT I'M SAYING THERE IS AN EFFICIENCY THERE THAT HAS BROUGHT YOUR FEES DOWN. SO ONCE AGAIN AND I'M SORRY IF I WAS IF IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO FIGHT OUR PARENTS BECAUSE. NO, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT GO MUCH SMOOTHER. I HAVE LOOKED AT THE FEES AND I AND THAT'S WHAT I IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE COULD SAVE ON OUR OUR EXTERNAL LEGAL FEES. THAT WAS WITHIN MY CONTROL. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT HERE. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO PROVE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE EXPLORING DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHICH I WANT TO DO WITH REGARD TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL. ITS YOUR CALL. TRUSTEE WESTON I STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON, BUT IS THAT FROM EARLIER OR DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT AND THEN. TRUSTEE MARKHAM. YEAH. SO TIFFANIE, TO YOUR POINT. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON WHAT LED TO SOME LEGAL FEES SPENDING. [03:05:08] WHAT? MADAM CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE NO DISRUPTIONS, PLEASE, SO THAT I CAN BE HEARD? I DIDN'T HEAR ANY. SORRY. I JUST LITERALLY DID NOT HEAR IT. BUT THAT COULD BE MY HEARING WAS DISRUPTIVE FOR ME. OKAY. SO THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AND WHICH IS WHY AT THE VERY BEGINNING I SAID. THAT. I BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE SPENDING ON THE LEGAL ON THE LAWYERS IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY LAWYERS. AND I'M SKEPTICAL OF THE LEGAL ADVICE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. WE CANNOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. BUT TO NOT. WE CANNOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES. WHEN YOU WHEN PEOPLE WE HAVE A LEGAL SYSTEM FOR A REASON. IT EXISTS FOR A REASON. SOME OF YOU UP HERE AT THE DAIS HAVE EXERCISED IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. IT. SOMETIMES IT IS THE ONLY REMEDY THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, REAL PROPERTY, REPUTATIONS AND OTHERWISE. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. I THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE A CONSENSUS ON TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF A GOOD ANALYSIS OF THE SPENDING. AMY, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. MAYBE WE NEED IT. LET'S GET THE DATA IN FRONT OF US. LET'S GET THE ANALYSIS IN FRONT OF US. I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH A BINDER THIS THICK WHEN I KNOW HOW BILLING CODE WORKS. BILLING CODES WORK IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FIRMS. THAT SHOULD BE A SPREADSHEET CATEGORIZED SOME TOTAL. THERE IT IS. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START WITH THE DATA. SO TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION ALONG, CAN WE AGREE TO A DATE THAT WE WANT THIS BROUGHT BACK TO US LIKE AN ANALYSIS? IT PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN A BOARD MEETING. IT COULD PROBABLY BE IN A BOARD UPDATE, YOU KNOW, BUT A BREAKDOWN OF THE SPENDING JUST WITH BOARD COUNSEL. CAN I MAKE A DIRECT REPLY? MIGHT IT BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO GET THAT INFORMATION? AND NEW TRUSTEES? I KNOW YOU DID A LEGAL UPDATE ABOUT CASES, BUT YOU HAVEN'T YET TO GET ONGOING LITIGATION AND JUST THE INFORMATION. BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE IN CLOSE BECAUSE WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT LIKE I THINK BEFORE WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD, WE LITERALLY NEED ITEMIZED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS WHERE, WHAT FIRM. ALL TOGETHER WE GET SOME OF THAT IN A BOARD UPDATE, BUT SOME OF IT CAN'T GO IN WRITING BECAUSE IT'S SPECIAL EDUCATION. SO COULD WE DO THAT? AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH SAYING, CAN WE DO THAT BY FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING? COULD WE SET A SEPARATE MEETING TO DO THAT AND GO INTO CLOSE AND DO THAT? OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST CONCEPT THING AND NOT REALLY ABLE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING CONCRETE. TRUSTEE MARKUM. YEAH. SO THE WAY I SEE IT AFTER HEARING EVERYBODY IS THAT WE ARE COMING TO A CONSENSUS THAT WE WANT THE INFORMATION AND WE WANT THE DATA. IT'S JUST HOW WE GET THERE. I HESITATE TO, AFTER HAVING A CONVERSATION AND AND PULLING AN AGENDA ITEM ABOUT NOT WANTING TO SPEND, NOT WANTING TO MOVE MONEY AROUND IN THE BUDGET FOR STUDENT RECRUITMENT, THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT MONEY TO THE DISTRICT AND THEN WANTING TO SPEND MONEY ON AN EFFICIENCY STUDY WHERE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST. YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE US IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE COULD ALREADY LOOK THROUGH OURSELVES. SO TO ME, IT'S THE HOW WE'RE GETTING THERE. AND AS A NEW TRUSTEE AND I DON'T KNOW IF TRUSTEES AUDIT FEELS THE SAME WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BOTH NEW TO THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AS FAR AS LEGAL REPRESENTATION. AND SO IF WE COULD GET THAT DATA AND LOOK AT IT IN-HOUSE AND TALK ABOUT IT TOGETHER IN CLOSED. I FEEL LIKE FOR ME AS A NEW TRUSTEE, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN BEING ABLE TO MAKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DECISION GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE HISTORY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IF THE BOARD WANT US TO GATHER ALL THIS INFORMATION AND BRING IT TO YOU NEXT BOARD MEETING, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU WANT THE BOARD COUNCIL. I MEAN, YOU WANT TO THE BOARD COUNCIL, RIGHT? OR YOU WANT FOR EVERYTHING. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO WE CAN WORK WITH VALERIE AND ALSO WITH CINDY SO WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THIS INFORMATION TO YOU. THE NEXT CLARIFICATION WILL BE GREAT. I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT LEGAL FEES IN GENERAL, AND WE'VE GOT OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT HANDLE MATTERS FOR THE DISTRICT THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM BOARD COUNCIL MATTERS, I'M SURE. SO I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR CINDY AND THE BOARD COUNCIL'S LAW FIRM JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU AS FAR AS DATA GOES. I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS. I THINK WE'VE HAD CONSENSUS ON MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THE WEBSITE AND THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED ALL THAT. [03:10:07] SO NOW WE'VE MOVED TO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY WITH [INAUDIBLE] ON. AS MUCH AS THAT CAN BE BROKEN OUT AND JUST GETTING THAT TO US. WOULD YOU BE OKAY IF THAT WAS A 12 MONTH STUDY LOOKING 12 MONTHS OF BILLS LIKE WHERE WE'VE SPENT THE LAST YEAR WITH? I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AND THAT'S A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT TO, SAY, GO THROUGH FOUR AND A HALF YEARS OF BILLS. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, I THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR GENERAL TRENDS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET THAT. LIKE, THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T WANT 12 MONTHS EARLIER IS BECAUSE YOU WANTED SPECIFIC CASE. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT GENERAL TRENDS OF HOW MUCH WE SPENT WITH THEM, I THINK YOU PROBABLY I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MISS HILL, BUT I THINK YOU PROBABLY COULD GET A PRETTY GOOD ANALYSIS IF YOU LOOKED AT 12 TO 18 MONTHS OF BILLS, IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, WHICH I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO THE BOARD, WHAT IF WE THE INFORMATION THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU. AND IF YOU ALL NEED MORE, PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW. BUT CURRENT LITIGATION MATTERS AND THEN WE COULD SO THAT OUR SPECIAL ED WE DON'T VIOLATE ANY SORT OF STUDENT PRIVACY RIGHTS. WE COULD PUT THAT IN ONE CATEGORY SO WE COULD HAVE BY INDIVIDUAL LITIGATION MATTERS, BY SPECIAL ED AS A THING, AS A SEPARATE CATEGORY. AND THEN WE DO I'M JUST THINKING OF WHAT WE GENERALLY USE OUR OUR STUFF, OUR FEES, CONSTRUCTION MIGHT WE MAY WANT TO BREAK OUT CONSTRUCTION MATTERS, AND THEN WE CAN DO ADMINISTRATIVE AND BOARD. SO THAT WOULD BE FIVE THINGS. AND CAN WE ACTUALLY BREAK OUT BOARD MEETINGS LIKE I BELIEVE? SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK THE [INAUDIBR], I THINK THAT IT IS BROKEN OUT BETWEEN BOARD MEETINGS AND THE BOARD MATTERS. THE INVOICES WILL GET THEY SAY A DATE AND THEY SAY ATTENDED THIS BOARD MEETING AND THEN THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S USUALLY AROUND FOUR OR 5000. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE MISLEADING TO YOUR PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON BOARD COUNSEL. AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THE BILLS IN FRONT OF ME. YOU GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, BUT IT'S HOURLY. IT'S NOT A FLAT RATE. AND SO IF THERE WERE ANY TIMES WHERE IT REACHED A 4000 LEVEL, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC FOR PURPOSES OF TRANSPARENCY, FULL TRANSPARENCY AND CLARIFICATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOURLY, RIGHT BOARD. I'M SORRY, LAWYERS CHARGE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BOARDS BY THE HOUR. SO IF THERE'S A MEETING THAT WENT UNTIL TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD LOTS OF THOSE OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, THEY'VE GOTTEN BETTER. YOU'VE NOW HIRED OUTSIDE COUNSEL I'M SORRY, IN HOUSE COUNSEL, CINDY. AND SO I THINK THAT HELPS A LOT. AND OUR COSTS HAVE GONE DOWN FOR YOU, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT IN YOUR DATA. BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC CAN YOU ALL BE CLEAR THAT WE DON'T JUST CHARGE YOU $4,000 PER MEETING? IT'S HOURLY AND WE DON'T CHARGE 400 AN HOUR. WE CHARGE LESS THAN THAT. GOT IT. CAN I? SO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 50 MINUTES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO STOP, BUT I'D LIKE US TO BE COGNIZANT OF OUR TIME. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR 50 MINUTES. I HAVE TRUSTEE ZARATE HAS HIS HAND UP. I HAVE A LIGHT ON WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON, AND I HAVE A LIGHTWEIGHT TRUSTEE BONE IN THAT ORDER. MINE'S REAL QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT I LOOKED IT UP, AND TRUSTEE MARKHAM AND I HAVE OUR MEETING ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION ON THE 27TH OF THIS MONTH. SO THAT WOULD. NEXT MONTH WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO DISCUSS THIS, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE MORE INFO. TRUSTEE HARRISON I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE AND GO AHEAD AND SET THE DATE AND MAKE OUR AGREEMENTS, BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE REACHED IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A BOARD VOTE OR IF WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE. WE NEED A MOTION. I THINK WE'RE AT A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT. PERFECT. THAT WAS MY THING. TRUSTEE BONE. YEAH, I THINK THIS ALL SOUNDS REALLY GREAT AND I THINK IT'S A FIRST STEP. I JUST DON'T THINK IT GIVES US A FULL LANDSCAPE. AND I HESITATE BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY THAT WORKS WITH A LOT OF DATA, YOU NUMBERS CAN BE VERY DECEIVING, ACTUALLY, AND YOU CAN MAKE REALLY BAD CHOICES OFF OF INCOMPLETE DATA SETS AND NOT SEEING THE FULL LANDSCAPE. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, AND I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE, IS THAT WE DO HAVE A MONITOR THAT'S HERE, AND THE MONITOR COSTS MONEY AND THE MONITOR IS HERE. IF YOU GO BACK TO WHY THE MONITORS HERE, THERE WAS A LAWYER INVOLVED IN THAT. THERE WAS A BOARD LAWYER THAT GAVE BAD ADVICE AND. NOW WE HAVE THESE FEES THAT COST THAT. AND I THINK TO SEE THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS BEST PRACTICES. [03:15:02] YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL GREAT AND DANDY TO HAVE A SPREAD INTERNAL. AND AMY, I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING AN INTERNAL SPUD. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN LAWYERS DON'T REALLY WORK BY THEMSELVES. LIKE IT'S REALLY NICE FOR A SPED LAWYER TO HAVE LOTS OF OTHER SPED LAWYERS TO BE LIKE, WOW, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD A CASE LIKE THIS? AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT RISK, RIGHT? THERE'S A RISK OF HAVING AN IN-HOUSE LAWYER. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO SEE THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE. I'M NOT JUST WANTING TO SEE NUMBERS. I'M WANTING TO SEE THE LANDSCAPE OF BEST PRACTICES, WHAT THIS MIGHT COST US, WHAT THIS HAS COST US OF HAVING SOME OF THESE, LIKE DANIEL HAS MENTIONED, SOME OF THESE BAD DECISIONS OR MAYBE BAD ADVICE THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN THAT ARE VERY PUBLIC THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND SEE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO SEE THAT WHOLE LANDSCAPE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND I WAS NOT SAYING ACTUALLY AND IF YOU GO BACK, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PEOPLE STARTED PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I WASN'T SAYING THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THIS AND DO AN A STUDY TONIGHT. I WAS SAYING THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE GO INTO AND THEN WE GET THE MONEY FOR AND WE SEE IF SOMEBODY'S OUT THERE TO DO THAT. AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE I WOULD LIKE DR. AZAIEZ'S TO ACTUALLY STILL PROCEED AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT DOES THESE KIND OF STUDIES. I DON'T WANT TO WAIT. RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO GO THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AND WAIT. I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT DOES THESE TYPE OF LEGAL STUDIES AND HOW MUCH ARE THEIR FEES? USUALLY THAT'S A FREE. USUALLY THAT'S FREE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT IS JUST TO FIND OUT, IS THERE SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT DOES LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDIES AND HOW MUCH WOULD THEY CHARGE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR US? YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOT IN THIS UNTIL WE HAVE SET A DATE. WE AGREE TO A DATE AS WELL. A DATE FOR WHAT? LIKE WHICH FOLLOW UP. WE'VE DONE LOTS OF OH. FOR US TO GET THE ANALYSIS, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE 12 MONTHS WITH E&P. WELL AND I GO BACK TO YOU YOU SAID IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE IN A BOARD MEETING, BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION. AND I AGREE THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR SUPERINTENDENT TO MANAGE QUESTIONS COMING FROM INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES WHEN WE PROBABLY ALL NEED THAT INFORMATION. SO I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY COULD PUT IT ON THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING. AS A FOLLOW UP TO THIS, I JUST THOUGHT IN A BOARD UPDATE IT MIGHT BE IT'S HELPFUL TO ME, WHICH IS WHY DURING AN AGENDA ITEM EARLIER TODAY, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET TO REVIEW THIS. CAN I GET THIS IN WRITING? IT'S JUST USUALLY HELPFUL FOR ME TO SEE THE DATA IN ADVANCE SO THAT I CAN HAVE MEANINGFUL QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET TO THE MEETING. THAT'S MY ONLY CAVEAT. CAN WE LEAVE IT THAT IF THERE IS AND I KNOW IT SHOULD BE EASY TO PULL, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S CODED, IT MAY NOT BE EASY TO SEPARATE IF THEY NEED TO RECODE IN ORDER IN THE WAY WE WANT TO SEE IT, THAT IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO FEBRUARY, THEN. OR IF THAT'S BURDENSOME, THEN IT WOULD BE MARCH. YEAH. I ALWAYS TRY TO EXTEND GRACE WHENEVER POSSIBLE. SO IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE A STAFF MEMBER OUT WITH COVID, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS? SO I ALWAYS WOULD EXTEND GRACE IF SOMETHING COMES UP. OKAY. JUST SO I MAKE SURE I'M GOING TO WHAT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS IS AN ANALYSIS OF THE LEGAL FEES FOR LITIGATION. EACH LITIGATION MATTER FOR THE LIFE OF THE CASE. AND WITH REGARD TO OTHER MATTERS, A ONE YEAR PERIOD, I WAS GOING TO START WITH LIKE JANUARY OF 2022 TO DECEMBER 31ST. WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE UNLESS THE BILLS ARE SO LATE, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO START A MONTH. WHAT? JUST USE YOUR JUDGMENT. IT'S JUST EMP. I, YOU JUST WANT EMP. NO, I THINK I HEARD TRUSTEE WESTON WANT EMP, BUT I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE SAY OTHER LAW FIRMS TOO. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING EARLIER, WE NEED TO MAKE CLARIFICATION FOR CINDY AND I SO WE KNOW WHAT DATA TO BRING BACK. I HEARD BOTH. WE WANT GUYS ACTIVE LAWSUITS AND A BREAKDOWN OF ENP AND BUT LIKE CONSTRUCTION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID THAT YEAH, E&P AND SOMETIMES WE BREAK DOWN INTO THOSE FIVE CATEGORIES. I TELL YOU, I THINK I CAN PULL ALL THE LEGAL BILLS FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND THEN I CAN HISTORICALLY GO BACK FOR CURRENT LITIGATION. SO LET ME JUST I'LL BREAK IT DOWN. I'LL PUT IT IN A I HAVE A VERY I UNLIKE MOST LAWYERS, I AM KIND OF A MATH NERD, SO I WILL PUT IT IN A EASILY UNDERSTANDABLE FORMAT IF THE SUPERINTENDENT WOULD LIKE ME TO DO THAT. AND I'M GOING TO JUST HAVE A SIDEBAR WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON TO ASK HER ABOUT CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY VERY SMALL LIMITS OF WHAT WE CAN DISCUSS IN CLOSED SESSION REGARDING THIS AS IF WE ARE GETTING LEGAL ADVICE. SO LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE WHAT SHE NEEDS TO GO INTO CLOSED FOR THIS MATTER. [03:20:03] SO GIVE ME JUST 30 SECONDS TO TALK WITH HER. JUST ONE LAST THING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAD CONSENSUS ON TASKING THE SUPERINTENDENT WITH SEARCHING FOR AN EFFICIENCY STUDY. I DON'T I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE GETTING THIS INFORMATION IS A GOOD START AND PERHAPS WE CAN REVISIT IT AFTER THAT. BUT I JUST WANT CLARITY ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A DIRECTIVE. IT'S NOT FOR ME. I DON'T SEE CONSENSUS. I THINK THAT IN FEBRUARY, I THINK TRUSTEE BONES MENTIONED CONCERN OF IT BEING PUSHED FURTHER AND FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. BUT SINCE THIS IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK IN FEBRUARY, I THINK THAT LOOKING AT THE DATA AT THAT POINT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DECIDE AT THAT POINT IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT IF I UNDERSTAND YOU RIGHT, MARY, IT'S A YES OR NO QUESTION TO ADD TO ASK HIM, ARE THERE FIRMS THAT DO THIS? YEAH, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD TYPICALLY DOES THIS, THOUGH, WHERE WE YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP, BUT IT'S LITERALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ANSWER READY. AND IN FACT, NOW THAT DR. AZAIEZ HAS HEARD THIS, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF A GOOD PERSON WENT AND JUST GO AHEAD AND GO DO IT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AND HAVE READY. IS THERE SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT DOES THIS AND HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? IT'S FREE. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FINDING OUT. DOES SOMEBODY HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? I WAS GOING TO SAY, ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO AUDIT LEGAL BILLS? OR YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND WATCH MY PEOPLE? NO, IT'S AN EFFICIENCY STUDY WHERE IT WOULD. WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WANT TO BECAUSE THERE ARE FIRMS THAT DO. YEAH, THAT'S ALL WE NEED. LIKE THE FIRMS THAT DO IT, LIKE, WHAT DO THEY DO? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE NEED. AND IT'S LOTS OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEVER GET. IT'S ARE THERE FIRMS THAT DO THIS? OBVIOUSLY, NONE OF US UP HERE, INCLUDING IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LAWYERS ARE EXPERTS IN LEGAL EFFICIENCY STUDIES. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? HOW DO THEY DO IT? WHAT IS IT COST? IS IT REALLY INTENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING? DO THEY DOES CAN THEY SHOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY SAVE DISTRICTS MONEY, ETC.? GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. SO IN FEBRUARY, WHEN WE GET THIS OTHER DATA, WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND NOT KEEP KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD. I DIDN'T WANT A CAUTION TO THE BOARD. I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT GOVERNANCE OR SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP. I MEAN, REALLY WHAT THE BOARD'S IN CHARGE OF IS BOARD COUNSEL, RIGHT? SO YOU ALL DECIDE ON YOUR BOARD, COUNSEL. THERE'S CONTRACTS THAT GO TO THAT. RIGHT NOW IT'S EMP IN THE FUTURE, WHOEVER YOU ALL DECIDE THAT TO BE. I WORKED AT DALLAS FOR DALLAS FORT WORTH ISD. I KNOW THOSE WERE MENTIONED AS DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BOTH IN-HOUSE AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I WAS IN-HOUSE AS A STAFF ATTORNEY AT DALLAS AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL OF FORT WORTH, AND BOTH DISTRICTS DO STILL UTILIZE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I WAS AT DALLAS ISD I WAS THERE FROM LIKE OH, 1 TO 10. WE ONLY HAD LIKE EIGHT LAWYERS. SO IF THEY'VE GONE UP TO 13, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND SO IT TELLS YOU YOU STILL THEY STILL UTILIZE A BOARD COUNSEL AT BOTH AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO USE THOSE AS INFORMATION TO HELP YOU JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. BUT ALSO JUST BACK TO THE GOVERNANCE PIECE, YOU KNOW, THE ADMIN, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL COUNSEL, THEY HAVE THEIR IN-HOUSE HAS THEIR BUDGET. I'M SURE LIKE I DID IT FOR WITH ISD. IF I'M WRONG, YOU CAN TELL ME I'M WRONG. CINDY BUT THEY HAVE THEIR BUDGET AND THEY YOU KNOW, IT'S HELPFUL WHEN YOU HAVE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT LAW FIRMS AND WHAT LAWYERS ARE GOOD IF SOMEONE'S GOOD AT REAL ESTATE, OH, I KNOW THAT LAW FIRM OR I KNOW THAT LAWYER, IF SOMEONE'S GOOD AT CONSTRUCTION LAW, SOMEONE'S AN EXPERT IN SPECIAL ED. SO THAT'S WHAT HELPS WHEN YOU HAVE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL. BUT AGAIN, THEY HAVE THAT BUDGET TO DESIGNATE IF THEY NEED TO HIRE ANOTHER IN-HOUSE LAWYER AND THEY WORK AND REPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. GENERALLY SPEAKING, UNLESS THE GENERAL COUNSEL REPORTS TO THE BOARD IN THIS CASE, THEY DON'T. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S YOUR REPORTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND SO I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND BE CAREFUL WITH THE GOVERNANCE ISSUES ON THAT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MAYBE. YOU KNOW, SOME WANTING INFORMATION THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE LEFT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WORKING WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND HIS GENERAL COUNSEL ON BUDGET AND FEES. AND OF COURSE, YOU ALL ADOPT A BUDGET AND YOU HELP WITH THAT AS A BOARD. SO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE INFORMATION AND DATA, BUT JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT GOING BEYOND THAT SOMETIMES. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO TRUSTEE WESTON'S POINT, IT'S A YES OR NO QUESTION IF COMPANIES DO THIS. DID CINDY DID YOU NOT JUST ANSWER THAT FOR US, THAT THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT DO LEGAL AUDITS? SO IS THAT DO WE JUST GET OUR ANSWER? THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT DO AUDITS OF LEGAL BILLS. I MEAN, WE'RE ASKING FOR EFFICIENCY STUDY. YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT. I KNOW. I STUDY LEGAL DEPARTMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. YEAH. [03:25:01] I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST THE NO QUESTION WAS BEING ANSWERED, YES OR NO WAS ABOUT AN EFFICIENCY STUDY, NOT AN AUDIT. YEAH. AND MAYBE THOSE SAME COMPANIES DO THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION. RIGHT. I STILL HESITATE TO TASK THE SUPERINTENDENT WITH THAT UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE DATA BECAUSE IT IS ANOTHER TASK TO DO AND IT'S EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS SMALL, I'M SURE IT'S TIME CONSUMING AND BURDENSOME TO GO AND RESEARCH THESE COMPANIES FOR THIS STUFF. AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH MY MEETING WITH CINDY AND TALK ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION SO THAT I AM FULLY BRIEFED AND THEN GET ALL OF THE THE DATA, THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AND TALK ABOUT IT AS A BOARD AND CLOSED BEFORE WE GO FURTHER THAN THAT. I'M NOT SEEING A CONSENSUS MOVING FORWARD. SO. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON. I DON'T HAVE ANY. WE CAN MOVE ON. THAT WAS AN HOUR AND 6 MINUTES ON THAT TOPIC. SO ITEM I2 APPROVAL TO ADD SIGNATURE TO HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS. TRUSTEE, WESTON AND TRUSTEE ZARATE. I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. YES. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? CAN WE VOTE ON THESE SEPARATELY, PLEASE? WE VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY. SURE. I DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIONS. SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE MOTIONS BUT APPROVAL TO ADD SIGNATURES TO HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS FOR TRUSTEE WESTON AND TRUSTEE ZARATE. SINCE WE DO HAVE TWO TRUSTEES WITH GRADUATING SENIORS, THAT DOES PUT US BACK IN THE SAME POSITION WE WERE IN LAST YEAR THAT THERE CANNOT BE THAT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES ON EVERY DIPLOMA. SO IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF ADDING THE TRUSTEE TO THEIR RESPECTIVE HIGH SCHOOLS. SO IT WOULD BE ADDING TRUSTEES ZARATE TO MCNEIL AND ADDING TRUSTEE WESTON TO ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THE. WITH REGARDS TO THIS, BOTH OF THEM DID SUBMIT THIS REQUEST. TRUSTEE BONE. YES. I MOVE TO ADD TRUSTEE WESTON'S. SIGNATURE TO THE ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS AND ADD TRUSTEES OR ZARATE SIGNATURE TO MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS FOR THE 2023 SENIOR CLASSES. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IN RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST? CAN I ASK SOME QUESTIONS FIRST? YES. SO TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE PRECEDENT FOR ADDING NAMES IN RECENT HISTORY? BECAUSE I DON'T I JUST I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE THAT PIECE. AND THEN ALSO, IS THERE THE OPTION FOR TRUSTEES TO JUST SIGN THEIR OWN STUDENT'S DIPLOMA RATHER THAN THE ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL THAT THEIR STUDENT IS GRADUATING FROM? SO GOOD QUESTION. PRECEDENT PRIOR TO THE CLASS OF 21 WAS IF YOU HAD A GRADUATING SENIOR, THAT THOSE THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE THE SECRETARY. AND THE SECRETARY'S NAME IS AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DIPLOMAS. CURRENTLY, THE DIPLOMAS ARE SIGNED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE SECRETARY AND THE PRINCIPAL. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR SIGNATURES. AND SO THE ALL IMPORTANT PRINCIPLE, HOW DID I FORGET THAT? AND SO THAT WAS THE PRECEDENT. IN 2021, I WAS NOT ELECTED AS SECRETARY, BUT I DID HAVE A GRADUATING SENIOR, SO I REQUESTED TO HAVE MY NAME ADDED TO HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECAUSE I HAD A GRADUATING SENIOR. AT THAT TIME, I WAS THE ONLY TRUSTEE THAT HAD A GRADUATING SENIOR, SO MY NAME WAS ADDED TO ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS IN 2022 AND NOW IN 2023 WE HAVE TWO TRUSTEES THAT HAVE THEM AND THERE IS LITERALLY NOT ROOM FOR SIX SIGNATURES ON EVERY DIPLOMA. AND FIVE IS THE ABSOLUTE MAX ACCORDING TO OUR PRINTERS. SO WE CAN ADD. AND THAT FIFTH SIGNATURE SITS BELOW THE SEAL. I BELIEVE I SHOULD KNOW THIS. I JUST HAD TWO GRADUATES, BUT THAT FIFTH SIGNATURE SITS RIGHT THERE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE SIX SIGNATURE WOULD NOT WORK, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LIKE LITERALLY WILL NOT FIT IN THE SMALL SPACE THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM. SO THAT IS THE HISTORY OF HOW IT'S HAPPENED. AND I THINK THAT'S YOUR HISTORICAL AS IN TERMS OF CAN ONE SIGNATURE BE ADDED TO ONE DIPLOMA? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO DR. AZAIEZ, BUT PROBABLY PATTY, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER THAN THAT AND KNOWS HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE AND DOES THE SIGNATURE COLLECTIONS. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE. WHEN YOU CAME UP, YOU HAD REQUESTED IT. AND AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, I BELIEVE IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ALLOW YOU TO SIGN. YEAH, IT WAS SEVEN ZERO. AND THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN LAST YEAR WITH TRUSTEE XIAO AND I. AND WHEN IT CAME UP AND IT WAS ALSO A UNANIMOUS VOTE, IT'S JUST BEEN A TRADITIONAL PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. I WILL SAY THERE ARE VERY FEW PERKS. AS A TRUSTEE. [03:30:01] IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT AFTER YOU LOOK AT ALL THE WAY WE'VE BEEN SHOWERED THIS MONTH, BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW PERKS. BUT AS A PARENT, BEING ABLE TO HAND YOUR CHILD THEIR DIPLOMA AND THEN HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE DIPLOMA, IT IS A KIND OF A SPECIAL PERK BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IN THE SAME EVENT THAT YOU WERE ELECTED IN THE SAME YEARS THAT YOU HAVE A GRADUATING SENIOR. SO, TRUSTEE HARRISON, CAN WE CHECK AND SEE IF IT CAN JUST BE ADDED? I DON'T HAVE KIDS. NO SURPRISE. PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM THIS DIAS, BUT IT JUST I UNDERSTAND IT'S SPECIAL, BUT I ALSO JUST FEEL STRANGE MAKING THIS SUCH A BIG THING WHEN IT IMPACTS OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS. AND I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF IT COULD JUST BE ADDED TO JUST THAT PERSON'S DIPLOMA. AND MY LIGHT IS NOT WORKING AND I WILL NOT MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THOUGH I WILL SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME TRUSTEES, BONE OR WESTON HAVE ASKED TO VOTE ON THINGS SEPARATELY, WE HAVE ALWAYS AGREED. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE IT NOTED THAT I DID ASK FOR THESE TO BE SEPARATE AND AS SHE GIGGLED AND MADE HER MOTION SO THAT SHE COULD PREVENT ME FROM BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON THESE SEPARATELY. I WOULD JUST LIKE THAT KNOWN. AND I HAVE NO MORE OLIVE BRANCHES TO GIVE. AND SO I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE. DR. BONE. YEAH. CAN WE JUST HAVE A POINT OF CORRECTION? I DIDN'T GIGGLE WHEN I MADE THE MOTION. IT'S A SERIOUS MOTION. I'M VERY HAPPY. TRUSTEES WESTON AND ZARATE TO HAVE THEIR SIGNATURES. LIKE TRUSTEE FELLER SAID, THERE'S VERY FEW PERKS. 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THEIR KIDS HAVE, THAT THEIR GRANDKIDS WILL SEE. AND THE RESPECT OF HIGH SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW. TRUSTEES ZARATE VERY MUCH. BUT I KNOW TRUSTEE WESSON HAS DEDICATED A LOT OF HER LIFE TO ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL AND THE BAND. AND I KNOW TRUSTEES ZARATE HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN THE PTA, AND HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS GOING OVER TO SEE THE KIDS IN THE THEATER PROGRAM. SO TRUSTEES DON'T JUST SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS DAIS. MOST OF US HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS AND SPENDING HOURS AND HOURS VOLUNTEERING IN OUR SCHOOLS. SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO VOTE FOR BOTH OF YOU. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH YOUR SENIORS. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AT GRADUATION AND WATCHING THEM BOTH WALK DOWN THE AISLE, THEIR GRADUATION. [INAUDIBLE]. HIT MY BUTTON. DID YOU SEE IT? NO, I DON'T HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON. GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT IT WAS BROUGHT GREAT JOY TO MY FAMILY AND MY GRADUATING SENIOR LAST YEAR TO SEE MY SIGNATURE. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY CONFUSING TO MY PRECIOUS DAUGHTER TO SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HER BROTHER'S DIPLOMA AND HER OWN DIPLOMA. I THINK IT WOULD BE DISAPPOINTING TO OUR FAMILY PROBABLY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. TRUSTEE MARKUM I DO HAVE ONE MORE HISTORICAL. IN 2020, I ALSO HAD A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE, BUT I WAS THE BOARD SECRETARY AT THAT TIME. SO THERE WAS NOT EVEN A DECISION OR A VOTE OR ANYTHING. THANKS. AND THIS IS WHY I ASKED ABOUT AND I'LL HAVE TO GET THE LANGUAGE FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. BUT ABOUT ADDING THEIR NAMES JUST TO THEIR STUDENTS DIPLOMAS. I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE FRANK. IT'S BEEN A CONTENTIOUS COUPLE OF YEARS AND I IN SHOULD WE JUST JOINED THE BOARD AND SO I IT FEELS ODD TO ME TO MAKE A DECISION AS A BOARD TO TELL ALL OF THESE PARENTS BECAUSE THERE'S MANY PARENTS WHO HAVE DONE ALL OF THAT VOLUNTEER WORK. RIGHT. WE HAVE INCREDIBLE PARENTS IN THIS DISTRICT WHO ARE VERY INVOLVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES AND THEIR NAMES WON'T BE ON THE DIPLOMA. SO IT IS A BENEFIT OF BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL UP HERE AND LIKE YOU SAID, A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. AND I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY SPECIAL TO YOUR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK ON THAT. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT I FEEL ODD TELLING THAT ENTIRE LEARNING COMMUNITY THAT YOUR SIGNATURES MUST BE ON THEIR STUDENTS DIPLOMAS AS WELL. AND SO THAT IS WHY I WANT TO FIND OUT. AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT PATTY'S CHECKING ON. BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT IF YOU CAN SIGN JUST YOUR STUDENT'S DIPLOMA SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THAT FOR YOURSELVES LATER ON. TRUSTEE WESTON. THIS IS IT'S VERY TELLING, I THINK, AND INSIGHTFUL THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING UP TIME IN A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS. AMY SAYING I DON'T HAVE ANY OLIVE BRANCHES LEFT TO GIVE. AND NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE CONCERNS, THIS IS REALLY A SIMPLE MATTER THAT SHOULD TAKE UP 0 MINUTES IN OUR SCHOOL BOARD [03:35:02] MEETING. AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BY THE STATUTE CALLED TEAM BUILDING ON THE HORIZON, THE FACT THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING, I THINK IS A HARBINGER OF PROBABLY WHERE THAT TEAM OF EIGHT IT SPEAKS TO WHERE YOUR HEARTS ARE WITH REGARD TO THE TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING AND THE ABILITY TO GO IN IT WITH AN OPEN HEART, WITH AN OPEN MIND, SEEKING TO WORK TOGETHER, SEEKING TO COLLABORATE BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID HERE THAT HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTING. WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ON TO ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. AT THIS POINT. I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY VOTE AND I JUST WANTED TO DO THEM SEPARATELY AND I'M HAPPY JUST TO MAKE MY VOTE. NOW. I AGREE IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME. TRUSTEE BONE YOU HAVE YOU LIGHT ON? YES. I DO WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN QUICK AND I ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE. TRUSTEE. WEIR? THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY YOU'D WANT THEM SEPARATED. I APPRECIATE TRUSTEE LANDRUM, WHAT YOU HAVE SAID. THIS HAS BEEN FOREVER IN ROUND ROCK ISD. THIS WILL BE HISTORICAL. IF WE DON'T ALLOW A TRUSTEE TO SIGN THEIR DIPLOMA, IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR BOARD. I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE POLICY THAT THE SECRETARY IS NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT STILL STATES IN THE POLICY THAT IT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE THEY REMOVED IT FROM THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. IT IS NOT ANYMORE. SO THIS IS HISTORICAL. THIS IS WHERE THIS BOARD. BUT IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IT JUST LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON SAID, YOU HEAR ME GIVING THE OLIVE BRANCH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DYNAMICS UP HERE. AND LOOK AT HOW I TRULY AM HAPPY FOR TRUSTEE ZARATE TO HAVE HIS NAME ON ALL THE MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL. LIKE I'M HAPPY FOR HIM. LIKE I FEEL LIKE HE'S EARNED IT. I FEEL LIKE AND I DON'T CARE. YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GOING TO BE OFFENDED. WE'VE DONE THIS. NOBODY'S OFFENDED. AND IF THEY ARE, I MEAN, THAT'S SILLY. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE'RE WASTING TIME HAVING PATTY. YOU KNOW, WE JUST SAT HERE AND SAID, OH, WE DON'T WANT DR. AZAIEZ TO GO SEE IF WE CAN DO AN EFFICIENCY STUDY TO SAVE MONEY. BUT NOW WE HAVE PATTY OFF RUNNING RIGHT NOW AND SPENDING TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A SUPER SIMPLE VOTE. IT'S USUALLY A FULL MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. AND I IT JUST IS VERY TELLING THAT PEOPLE THAT SPEAK A LOT ABOUT BRINGING THE BOARD TOGETHER AND TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE, THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE. I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND. BUT CHEWY HAS HIS HAND UP. GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE ZARATE. YEAH, HI. I JUST WANT TO. I WANT TO CHIME IN HERE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS WAS A THING UNTIL I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, YEAH, I'D LIKE THAT TOO. THAT'LL BE AWESOME. BUT FOR ME, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK MY SON'S HEART. IN FACT, I THINK HE'D BE EMBARRASSED THAT IT'S ON THERE. BUT SHAKING HIS HAND AND HANDING HIM HIS DIPLOMA WOULD BE SATISFACTION ENOUGH FOR ME. AND EVEN KNOWING MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KIDS THAT ARE AT MCNEIL AND KNOWING SOME OF THEM SINCE FIFTH GRADE, AND THAT IT'S STILL IN THE INTEREST OF TIME IN THAT I WILL WITHDRAW MY NAME FROM THIS MOTION. LIKE, SERIOUSLY, I DON'T EVEN MIND. IT'S FINE. LET'S MOVE ON. SO THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK. UNABLE TO CONFIRM IF WE CAN ADD AT THIS LATE HOUR AT 9:15, IF WE CAN ADD IT TO ONE DIPLOMA OR IT HAS TO BE. EVERYBODY OR NOBODY. THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TROUBLE FOR THE STAFF, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN I GOT THE EMAIL REQUESTING THESE, I ACTUALLY WEIGHED AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE REALLY HONEST HERE, JUST BLATANTLY HONEST IS THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY ON THIS DIAS AND THERE'S A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS AND THERE'S A LOT OF. LET'S JUST SAY BAGGAGE. I STOOD NEXT TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS FOR TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING. LISTENING TO THEM TELL ME TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ME FIRED AND UN-ELECTED. AND ON AND ON AND ON. BUT I WILL VOTE FOR THIS. EVEN THOUGH ONE MONTH AGO, ALMOST THE EXACT DATE WE WERE DOING THE DECEMBER BOARD MEETING AND THE OFFICES OF PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WERE UNOPPOSED. AND YOU VOTED AGAINST ME. COULD HAVE BEEN A SHOW OF SOLIDARITY OR A SHOW OF SUPPORT. BUT I'LL VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM. AND I DO KNOW THAT IT'S SPECIAL. AND I'LL VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I CONSISTENTLY HAVE HOPE. I HAVE HOPE THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE AND THINGS WILL GET BETTER AND NOTHING IS IRREPARABLE. [03:40:01] BUT WE HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND MOVING FORWARD, WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE CONCESSIONS TO DO BETTER ON THIS DAIS. BUT I WILL VOTE FOR IT. AND DESPITE MY FEELINGS OF WHY DIDN'T YOU VOTE FOR ME FOR PRESIDENT WHEN THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE EVEN RUNNING? TRUSTEE HARRISON. I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT, BUT IT'S NOT SOUR APPLES. I JUST LITERALLY THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE'VE TAKEN 20 MINUTES TO DO THIS. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS ABOUT THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE AND ALL STUDENTS. AND SO I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT. IT'S NOT SOUR APPLES. MAYBE IT WILL STILL PASS. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M HOLDING HATE IN MY HEART JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS A RIDICULOUS AND VERY KIND OF LIKE PRIVILEGED THING, EVEN WITH OUR BOARD SERVICE. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TRUSTEE WESTON. AS I'VE HEARD THIS CONVERSATION, MY MIND GOES TO MY DAUGHTER. AND SOME OF, YOU KNOW, THE STRUGGLES THAT SHE'S HAD. AND THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS, AND THAT IS WHERE MY HEART IS. AND THIS WILL THIS VOTE WILL BE INTERESTING. TRUSTEE MARKUM, CAN I STILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NOT SURE IF WE CAN DO IT? YOU CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT TRUSTEE ZARATE CAN ADD HIS SIGNATURE TO HIS GRADUATING SENIORS DIPLOMA AND TRUSTEE. WESTON CAN ADD HER SIGNATURE TO HER GRADUATING SENIORS DIPLOMA. SECOND. THE. SO JUST ONE COMMENT. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION IN JANUARY BECAUSE THESE ACTUALLY GO TO THE PRINTER. [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE FIVE MORE WEEKS. NO, FIVE MINUTE RECESS. OH, FIVE MINUTE RECESS. OK, CAN I TABLE THIS DISCUSSION AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM AND COME BACK BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT READY TO GO INTO CLOSED? I CAN JUST DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE VOTE. SHE'S GETTING SOME INFORMATION. TRUSTEES, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? IF WE GO TO J1 AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND FINISH. CAN I LEAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? YES. AS LONG AS THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TEMPORARILY. AND WE'LL GET BACK TO IT. DURING THIS MEETING, I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE UNTIL PATTY HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET HER ANSWER. SECOND. MOTION TO POSTPONE. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. TRUSTEE BONE. I DIDN'T SEE YOUR OK AND ABSTAIN IS TRUSTEE BONE MOTION CARRIES 5-1-1. SO WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM J ONE. [J. BOARD BUSINESS] BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS. I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE. AS WE'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES TONIGHT, FEBRUARY 9TH, WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR OUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING. CURRENTLY, ALL TRUSTEES HAVE RESPONDED. THEY ARE ATTENDING. THE ONLY OTHER MEETING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED IN FEBRUARY IS OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING. I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE FROM TRUSTEES, WESTON AND BONE IF YOU'LL BE ATTENDING. IF YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR CALENDAR INVITE. THIS WAS AS OF NOON TODAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND TRUSTEE WEIR WILL BE ABSENT FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING. FEBRUARY 16TH. FEBRUARY THE 16TH. OKAY, I'LL RSVP RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. TASB GOVERNANCE CAMP IS COMING UP. THAT'S IN GALVESTON. IT'S ONE OF THE THREE ANNUAL TRUST CONFERENCES THAT TRUSTEES ATTEND. AND TRUSTEES THAT ARE ATTENDING THIS TIME ARE LANDRUM, HARRISON. WEIR, MARCUM AND ZARATE. WE'VE MADE SOME BOARD COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. IF YOU RECALL, IN THE DECEMBER MEETING, I ASKED FOR ANY VOLUNTEERS WHO WANTED TO SERVE TO PLEASE SEND EMAILS. THE CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE CPC, WILL BE TRUSTEE BONE, WHO CURRENTLY SERVES AND TRUSTEE HARRISON WHO WILL BE REPLACING TRUSTEE VESSA OUR CTSB. WHICH IS OUR CENTRAL TEXAS SCHOOL BOARD, IS NOW BEING REPRESENTED BY TRUSTEE ZARATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR PARTNERS IN EDUCATION FOUNDATION WILL BE TRUSTEE WEIR. SHE CURRENTLY SERVES ON THAT BOARD. SO THERE'LL BE NO CHANGE IN OUR SAFETY SECURITY COMMITTEE. I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. TRUSTEE MARKUM IS REPLACING TRUSTEE WEIR AND TRUSTEE WESTON WILL ALSO BE ADDED AS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE. ONE. I HAVE TWO MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS. ON SEPTEMBER 29TH OF 2022, THE BOARD MADE A MOTION FOLLOWING A GRIEVANCE. COREY VESSA MADE THE MOTION TO DIRECT INTERNAL AUDITOR TO PERFORM SERVICES AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. TRUSTEE HARRISON SECONDED, AND THE MOTION PASSED SIX ONE. WE ASKED FOR OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS AUDIT, AND THAT AUDIT HAS BEEN CONCLUDED [03:45:02] AND HAS BEEN ATTACHED TO THE SEPTEMBER 29TH AGENDA. THE TRUSTEES RECEIVED THIS FINAL REPORT ON DECEMBER 15TH, DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES FROM TRUSTEES ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THAT SINCE THEN. AND SO SINCE THERE'S BEEN NO ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, THAT AUDIT HAS BEEN POSTED FOR THE COMMUNITIES. TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND IT'S ATTACHED TO THE SEPTEMBER 29TH AGENDA ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE. I ALSO WOULD BE REMISS WITHOUT MENTIONING THIS HOLIDAY WE HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HOLIDAY. I SAW LOTS OF PEOPLE SERVING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE HIS LEGACY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I THINK THAT IT WAS WONDERFUL. CELEBRATIONS. CITY OF ROUND ROCK DID SOME AMAZING THINGS, AND EVEN SOME JUST INDIVIDUALS GOING OUT TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. THAT IS ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I HAVE. I HAVE TWO LIGHTS ON, FOUR ADDITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENTS. TRUSTEE MARKUM. NOPE. NOPE. OK. TRUSTEE BONE. YES. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON GAVE THIS. I THINK IT WAS THE LAST TIME. BUT WE ARE IN THE MIDST STILL OF MUSICAL THEATER SEASON FOR OUR DISTRICT AND JUST A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO OUR THEATER KIDS THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE. I THINK IT'S ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL AND WESTWOOD WILL BE THIS WEEK. YEP. I THINK ONE OF THEM IS THE CEDAR RIDGE. ONE OF THEM IS AT THE MCNEIL PARK. SO GET OUT. SEE THOSE? WE HAVE SOME AMAZING TALENT. AND JUST A SHOUT OUT TO MCNEIL AND CEDAR RIDGE THAT I'VE HEARD. THEY DID AMAZING JOBS. I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE MCNEIL ONE BECAUSE I WAS WORKING THE CEDAR RIDGE AND THEY JUST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE BALLPARK. SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING FINE ARTS PROGRAM. SO I SAW THE MCNEIL ONE AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE. SO AWESOME. VERY LUCKY IN THIS DISTRICT TO HAVE SOME TOP QUALITY TALENT PERFORMING FOR FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THESE KIDS DO IN THE FUTURE AS A PROFESSIONAL THEATER ARTIST. UNBELIEVABLE IS THE WORD. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WESTON. YEAH. I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THESE FINE ARTS MUSICAL THEATER. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE BEING A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT AND DOING WHAT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DO. I WAS LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY. I HAVE SEEN SHOWS ON BROADWAY. I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS RIGHT UP THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN OVERSTATEMENT. I THINK THAT THESE STUDENTS HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE IF THEY CHOOSE TO PURSUE THIS STUFF. I'M VERY IMPRESSED. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SHOW THIS WEEK. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH THE FULL BOARD. IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, I STARTED EMAILING DR. AZAIEZ ABOUT MY CONCERNS ABOUT FENTANYL, AND I SENT HIM INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE WHERE THEY'VE DONE TOWNHALLS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, FOR THEIR STAKEHOLDERS, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE AUSTIN GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA WHO ARE DYING FROM THIS AND PARENTS ARE BURYING THEIR CHILDREN. AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE CONCERNED. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SENT THE BOARD EMAILS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND I THINK THERE'S JUST A DESIRE FOR INFORMATION. AND SO LAST FALL, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD DO THIS. I REENGAGED IN JANUARY AND WITH SOME STAFF TURNOVER. I THINK IT HAD KIND OF FALLEN OFF, BUT I ASKED FOR IT TO COME BACK. SO I THINK DR. AZAIEZ WOULD NOT MIND FOR ME TO SHARE THAT. I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT FEBRUARY 7TH AS A TENTATIVE DATE THAT IS IN PENCIL, NOT PEN [INAUDIBLE] OK GREAT. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S GREAT NEWS AND I HOPE THAT IT IS ADVERTISED FAR AND WIDE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A ZOOM THING, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AN ONLINE THING. IT'S GOING TO BE RECORDED SO THAT PEOPLE MAYBE IF YOU CAN'T GO THAT NIGHT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU. ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED. WELL, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A GREAT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S MY ONLY BOARD ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT WAS ALREADY IN THE EMAIL, WASN'T IT? IN THE EMAIL THAT WE JUST GOT THE PARENT EMAIL. IT WAS IN THERE. IT WAS AT THE BOTTOM. IF YOU HAD SCROLL DOWN, IT WAS IN THERE. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISED. WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE BOTTOM OF AN EMAIL, IT WOULD BE A GOOD FOR SUPPORTING ADVERTISEMENT. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR DISTRICT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS WOULD BE LEVERAGED. IT SHOWED UP ON MY FACEBOOK FEED INVITING ME TO IT. SO. AWESOME. TRUSTEE HARRISON. YEAH. JUST BRIEFLY, THANKS FOR SHOUTING OUT MLK DAY ROUND ROCK. BLACK HISTORY ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK PARTNER TO DO THE MLK MARCH AND PROGRAM. THIS WAS THE 36TH YEAR AND WE HAD SO MANY ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS REPRESENTED AND ONE REALLY SPECIAL PERFORMANCE, WHICH AGAIN, KUDOS TO FINE ARTS WAS HEATHER ROSEN AND THE [03:50:06] CD FOLKS CHOIR. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE AND IT WAS SO EXCITING TO SEE OUR STUDENTS. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, THE ROUND ROCK YOUNG MEN SERVICE LEAGUE HELPED SET UP AND TEAR DOWN THAT ORGANIZATION HAS A LOT OF OUR ELDERLY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY LEADERS. AND SO IT WAS LIKE SO AMAZING TO HAVE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE HELPING CARRY THE LOAD TO PUT ON THIS HISTORIC EVENT. AND THOSE ARE YOUNG MEN FROM ALL OVER OUR DISTRICT. AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THOSE INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE OTHER STUDENTS THAT WERE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM. VERY EXCITING FOR ROUND ROCK ISD TRUSTEE WEIR. I ACTUALLY JUST HAD AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST. I KNOW WE HAVE THREE TRUSTEES THAT ARE GOING. WE'RE GOING TO GET TWO AGENDA ITEM REQUEST IN THE NEXT ONE. YOU HAD ALREADY DONE CALENDARS, SO I DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY. I'LL WAIT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS? TRUSTEES RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. AND DR. AZAIEZ HAS ANNOUNCEMENTS. NOW, IT'S REALLY QUICK TO AND I KNOW I'M GLAD THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE HIGHLIGHTING OUR STUDENTS AND SPECIFICALLY AROUND FINE ARTS. I JUST WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT WE HAVE 63 STUDENTS WHO MADE IT TO THE TEXAS MUSIC EDUCATOR ASSOCIATION IN THE BAND. THAT'S LIKE OUR RECORD HIGH. WE NEVER I MEAN, WE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF A GROUP, A GOOD GROUP OF STUDENTS, BUT I THINK WE NEVER REACHED RICH 63. SO THIS IS OUR A NEW RECORD FOR OUR DISTRICT. SO WE SUPER PROUD OF OBVIOUSLY OUR STUDENTS AS WELL AS OUR TEACHERS, OUR PARENTS WHO WORK HARD AND OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW FROM MCNEIL, AGAIN, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR STUDENTS WHO WON THE SECOND, SECOND PLACE IN THE 2022 US CONGRESSIONAL APP CHALLENGE. SO IT'S A BIG YEAH, IT'S REALLY HUGE LIKE NATIONAL LEVEL. AND SO WE'LL BE HONORING HIM HERE NEXT BOARD MEETING. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT WE HIGHLIGHT HIM TONIGHT AS WELL. SO HIS NAME IS HE'S A SENIOR AT MCNEIL AND HIS NAME [INAUDIBLE]. AND HE AGAIN, HE WAS AWARDED SECOND PLACE IN THE 2022 US CONGRESSIONAL HAVE CHALLENGED FOR THE WEBSITE. SO SUPER EXCITING. AND HE'S ALSO A FINE ARTS. I MEAN, HE'S ONE OF OUR DREAM MAJORS. YEAH, SO WE'RE EXCITED. AND THEN THE LAST ONE I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS WE ARE SUPER PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARE PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION TALK ABOUT GIVE LIKE HONORS TO SCHOOL ARCHITECTURE COMPETITION LIKE A COMPETITION. AND THEIR BIGGEST BIGGEST AWARD IS CALLED THE CORDIAL AWARD. AND SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE WERE ONE OF THE FINALISTS. I THINK THEY ARE FOR TOTAL AND FOR WHEN WE'RE ONE OF THE FOUR. AND USUALLY THAT'S LIKE PRETTY MUCH ANY NEW BUILDINGS ADDITIONS. THEY SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSALS AND THEN THEY GET ALL THESE COMMITTEES TO LOOK AT THEM AND THEN FROM THAT HUGE NUMBER FOR THE YEAR, THEY SELECT LIKE FINALISTS. SO WE'RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT REDBUD ACTUALLY WAS SELECTED AS ONE OF THE FINALISTS. AND WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE THE WINNER. THAT, AGAIN, TELLS US THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOING GREAT THINGS ACADEMICALLY, BUT ALSO WHEN WE BUILD BUILDINGS AND WE CREATE, WE TRY TO KEEP A LOT OF THINGS IN MIND, INCLUDING THE BEST LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF. SO BUT THAT'S COMING UP. THEY WILL ANNOUNCE THE WINNER, I THINK, IN AUSTIN, JANUARY 30TH, MAYBE, OR 31ST. THAT'S WHEN WE EXPECT SO THEN OF THIS MONTH, WE KNOW IF WE ARE THE ONE. THANK YOU. YEAH. TRUSTEE MARKHAM. I CHANGED MY MIND. I WANTED TO DO A COUPLE OF SHOUT OUTS TO OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION COMMUNITY. SINCE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT WE DO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION IN OUR DISTRICT CALLED THE SPECIAL EDUCATION PARENT ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHERE OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION ADMINISTRATION AND PARENTS WORK TOGETHER. IT'S A GREAT ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION IN A GREAT PLACE. IF YOU'RE A NEW PARENT TO A STUDENT WHO RECEIVES SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES TO GET INFORMATION. SO DEFINITELY CHECK THEM OUT. THEY DO A PARENT COFFEE EVERY EVERY OH, I DON'T HAVE THE DATES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THEY DO GO TO THEIR WEBSITE ROUND ROCK ISD CSPEC SPECIAL EDUCATION PARENT ADVISORY COUNCIL. THEY DO COFFEES FOR PARENTS AND HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING EVERY MONTH. AND THEN JUST A SHOUT OUT TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS, WHICH IS BACK IN FULL SWING NOW. HAD TO TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS OFF FOR COVID, BUT THE KIDS ARE BACK AT IT AND OUR ADOPTED PE COACHES IN THE DISTRICT DO A PHENOMENAL JOB OF ORGANIZING ALL OF THE SPORTS. THERE'S RIGHT NOW BASKETBALL IS IN FULL SWING. I THINK POWERLIFTING IS IN FULL SWING. SO THEY DO A GREAT JOB ORGANIZING. AND IF YOU ARE A GEN ED STUDENT THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER WITH THAT PROGRAM, THEY ARE ALWAYS TAKING MORE VOLUNTEERS. [03:55:07] SO DEFINITELY CHECK IT OUT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, EVERYBODY. THAT'S WONDERFUL. REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW AGENDA REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET THEM ALL ON. BUT I WANTED TO LET ALL THE TRUSTEES KNOW ALL OF THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN AS OF RECENTLY. TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED AN UPDATE ON EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE AND BENEFIT INCREASES. TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED TO UPDATE THE POLICY DC LOCAL TO REQUIRE BOARD FINAL APPROVAL FOR CERTAIN HIRES IN THE DISTRICT AND SAMPLE POLICY FROM CARROLL RD. MANSFIELD ISD AND BROWNSVILLE ISD TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED AN UPDATE ON THE LICENSE, STATUS AND EMPLOYMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE OF CHIEF AND ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED A FURTHER BRIEFING ON THE TRANSIT. WHAT OFFICIALLY CONSTITUTES TRANSACTION OF DISTRICT BUSINESS AND ANY SUPPORTING MATERIAL DOCUMENTATION? TRUSTEE WESTON HAS REQUESTED US WAIVE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] INVOICES. TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED TO DISCUSS A RECENT CHANGE ON TEA., AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF CLOSED SESSION INFORMATION, BUT A CHANGE WITH TO DATA. TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED STUDENT WORK A DISCUSSION ON STUDENT WORK PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY CUSTODIAN HELP AV TECHS BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL LUNCH PREP AND TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED. THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE DENIED IS TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS. A FORGED LETTER THAT APPEARED ON NOVEMBER THE FOURTH, 2022. CLAIMING TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY ME AND SENT TO A NEIGHBORING BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I'VE DENIED THAT. SO IF SHE WANTS TO BRING IT FORWARD FOR OFFICIAL VOTE FOR THE BOARD, IF WE WANT TO PLACE IT ON, SHE'S WELCOME TO DO SO AT THIS TIME AS WELL. AND THEN TRUSTEE BONE HAS REQUESTED TO PURSUE SECOND STEPS OF THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE CONDUCT DURING BOARD MEETINGS. G1B AND POSSIBLE. G1C FOR VIOLATION OF TEXAS PENAL CODE 39.02 AND TEXAS PENAL CODE 39.06 FOR MISUSE OF OFFICIAL INFORMATION AGAINST ME. SO THAT'S ALL THE AGENDA REQUESTS THAT I HAVE CURRENTLY. IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. TRYING TO KEEP A RUNNING LIST SO DON'T MISS ANYTHING. BUT I AM ALSO TRYING TO GET US OUT BEFORE MIDNIGHT EVERY NIGHT, SO IT WILL TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET ALL OF THESE ON TO THE AGENDAS. I MADE AN AGENDA REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. SORRY, TRUSTEE WEIR HAS HER LIGHT ON FIRST. MINE WAS JUST VERY SIMPLE. I ACTUALLY WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE IT ON AN AGENDA TO GET UPDATES FROM OUR THREE TRUSTEES THAT ARE GOING TO THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION WHEN THEY COME BACK TO SHARE WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED. THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE CONFERENCE TO SEND PEOPLE TO. AND I KNOW WHEN YOU WENT, YOU KNOW, YOU LET THE BOARD KNOW WHAT WHICH CLASSES YOU TAKE IN. AND I JUST THOUGHT AND WE'D HAVE TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM, I BELIEVE, IN ORDER TO HAVE EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'D DONE. SO THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY REQUEST. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU PUT IT IN WRITING AND COPIED THE SUPERINTENDENT PER BOARD POLICY. THANKS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. ARE YOU SAYING, AMBER, YOU DID THAT WHEN YOU DID BACK? I STILL REMEMBER A POLICY AUDIT CALENDAR. IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST SESSIONS I'VE EVER WENT TO. AND I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. DO YOU? IF YOU CAN THINK OF WHAT MEETING THAT WAS, CAN YOU JUST EMAIL ME SO I CAN GO BACK AND WATCH IT IF IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU? IN APRIL OF 2019. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN. BUT I CAN TRY AND LOOK. TRUSTEE HARRISON. DECEMBER 16TH I MADE A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE ABOUT DYSLEXIA AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME WORK. THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN DOING SOME WORK, BUT CAN WE PLEASE KEEP THAT AS A CONSIDERATION FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. I HAPPEN TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY WHEN THAT CAME IN, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT. AND YOU SAID IT WAS JANUARY. I MEAN, DECEMBER 16TH. YES. THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. I KNOW WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ITEM, BUT YOU SAID UPDATE. [04:00:01] WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I'M JUST CURIOUS. WE PROBABLY CAN'T GET INTO IT, BUT THE SPECIFICITY IS IN THE EMAIL. SO THERE ARE NO OTHER AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS UNLESS I HAVE MISSED ONE. WHICH HUMAN ERROR? IT DEFINITELY CAN HAPPEN. THAT'S WHY WE BRING IT UP IN THE MEETING. YEAH. SO ANY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I DON'T HAVE ANY UNDER OTHER CALENDAR RFPS OTHER THAN THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING. I HAVE MY LIGHT ON. YEAH, SORRY. OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE IT ON. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. MY AGENDA. IT'S NOT AN AGENDA TOPIC. TEA CLARIFICATION ON ARE NOT RATED STATUS WHICH IS PUBLIC. IT'S. ON TEXAS SCHOOLS I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BOARD MEETING OR AN AGENDA UPDATE. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WASN'T I DIDN'T REQUEST THAT AS AN OFFICIAL AGENDA TOPIC. I JUST SAID THAT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD NEEDS TO. AND THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN AGENDA TOPIC OR A BOARD MEETING. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR EMAIL BECAUSE I'VE BEEN. BUT OKAY, I'LL NOTE THE CLARIFICATION. ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT, SO I WOULD TURN BACK TO PATTY. ARE WE READY TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON. OKAY, HOLD ON. GIVE ME 30 SECONDS. OK CLARIFICATION, YOU CANNOT HAVE IT PRINTED OFFICIALLY ON ONE PARTICULAR DIPLOMA. [I. ACTION ITEMS (Part 2 of 2)] YOU CAN LIVE, SIGN IT AND HAVE YOUR WET SIGNATURE ADDED. OBVIOUSLY ANY PARENT CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE IT PRINTED ON ONE DIPLOMA AND BOARD PRESIDENT. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT WE'RE BACK ON ITEM I2. SORRY. YES, WE ARE BACK ON ITEM TWO. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU WOULD NEED TO WITHDRAW YOUR AMENDED MOTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THEM ADDED ON THE AGENDA. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. AND WHO WAS THE SECOND? I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO TRUSTEE BONES. ORIGINAL MOTION TO ADD BOTH OF THEM TO DIPLOMAS. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT ENOUGH, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, THEY'RE WELCOME TO. OTHERWISE, WE CAN VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. ALL ABSTAINING. OH WAIT TRUSTEE ZARATE. ARE YOU OPPOSED OR ABSTAINING? I VOTED OPPOSED. OKAY. SO THE MOTION PASSES 4-1-2. THAT TAKES US TO CLOSED SESSION. [K. CLOSED SESSION (The Board reserves the right to enter into closed session on any agenda item as permitted by the Texas Open Meetings Act, Section 551.071 et seq.)] ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO READ US A VERY LENGTHY SORRY, IT'S A VERY LENGTHY CLOSED SESSION LIST, BUT I HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY IN CLOSED SESSION THAT LONG. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.076. THE BOARD WILL REVIEW, DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE REPORT REGARDING INTRUDER DETECTION AUDIT FINDINGS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074. THE BOARD WILL MEET IN CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS LIGHTHOUSE COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS AGAINST SUPERINTENDENT AND TRUSTEES. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072, THE BOARD WILL MEET TO DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE ON THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY. AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. THE BOARD MAY SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE SLASH SALE OF LAND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074 AND AS REQUESTED BY TRUSTEE WEIR, THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ITS ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER AND EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING DISCUSSION OF BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, CONDUCT DURING BOARD MEETINGS, SECTION G, ONE B AND POSSIBLE SECTION G1C WITH REGARD TO TRUSTEE BONE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074. THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ITS ATTORNEYS REGARDING CAUSE NUMBER DD DASH 1-9. DASH 21-007239 TCA ET AL VERSUS HAGER AND THE DISTRICT COURT FOR TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074. [04:05:01] THE BOARD BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ITS ATTORNEYS TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. IT IS 9:43. ORDER! WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I JUST HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO NUMBER FOUR, WHERE DR. BONE IS NAMED, SHE CAN HAVE THAT HEARD AND OPEN IF SHE WANTS. YES, SHE CAN. SO IT IS 9:43. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AT LEAST A TEN MINUTE RECESS TO ALLOW TRUSTEES TO GRAB WHATEVER THEY NEED AND THEN COME BACK TO THE DYESS. SO LET'S COME BACK AT 9:55 IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE BEFORE THAT. WE'LL GET STARTED A LITTLE BEFORE THAT, BUT IT IS 9:43 WHERE ENCLOSED TRUSTEE ZARATE, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO JOIN US, SO I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US VIRTUALLY THIS EVENING. WELL, I'LL COME BACK WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK IN JUST TO SAY HI. THANK YOU. YEAH. OH, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT IN THIS ROOM. SO IF EVERYBODY WILL GRAB THEIR BELONGINGS AND LEAVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. IT IS 11:50. WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. [L. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS] DO I HAVE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE ROUND ROCK ISD SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE REPORT AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING. TRUSTEES ZÁRATE, YOU'LL HAVE TO ABSTAIN SINCE YOU WEREN'T IN. YEP, YOU'RE ABSTAINING. MOTION PASSES 6-0-1. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER MOTIONS? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DELEGATE TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO NEGOTIATE A RESOLUTION AND CAUSE NUMBER D1GN21007239 [INAUDIBLE] ET AL [INAUDIBLE] PURSUANT TO THE TERMS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AND FURTHER TO AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO EXECUTE ANY DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE RESOLUTION ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TRUSTEE WESTON. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE I'M SATISFIED WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING ADDED TO THE CERTIFIED MEETING MINUTES, WHICH ARE NOT DISCLOSABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT. SO I'LL BE VOTING YES. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. ABSTAINING. MOTION PASSES. 6-0-1. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANY. WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY MOVE K4 THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER REGARDING BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, CONDUCT DURING BOARD MEETINGS, SECTION G(1)(B) AND POSSIBLE SECTION G(1)(C) WITH REGARDS TO TRUSTEE BONE AS REQUESTED BY TRUSTEE WEIR. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT IN OPEN SESSION AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO TRUSTEE WEIR. DO WE WANT TO SET TIME LIMITS? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT ALLOW IF WE'RE GOING TO--THE BOARD PRESIDENT CANNOT LIMIT DISCUSSION. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MOTION. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT WE JUST HEARD IN CLOSED SESSION LEADING UP TO THIS DISCUSSION, LACK OF INFORMATION, THIS REALLY FEELS LIKE BAD FAITH TO TRY TO PUT LIMITS ON SOMEBODY'S DUE PROCESS RIGHTS. SO I WOULD CAUTION THE BOARD AGAINST THAT. WELL, INSTEAD OF GETTING ANGRY, JUST SAY THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY CARE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE HERE UNTIL 4 A.M. ARGUING THE SAME POINT 15 TIMES. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY. DR. BONE CAN SAY WHAT SHE NEEDS TO SAY, AND THEN WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ANGRY ABOUT. I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE WANTED TO DO IT. MY ANSWER IS NO. PRESIDENT LANDRUM DID YOU SPECIFY OR CLARIFY? I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT BECAUSE I WAS WRITING NOTES DOWN THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN OPEN DR. BONE'S REQUEST? DID NOT SAY, PER DR. BONE'S REQUEST, BUT PER HER RIGHT TO EXERCISE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THIS DONE IN OPEN SESSION. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I WILL START AND I HOPE TO NOT BE INTERRUPTED. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE I'M SORRY TRUSTEE WEIR I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY ONE THING. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK IN GENERALITIES BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. SO WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN ABSOLUTE SPECIFICS. SO I JUST WANTED TO LIKE CONFIRM THAT WITH EVERYBODY MOVING FORWARD THAT THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF OBTUSENESS TO THIS. SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. [04:10:01] GO AHEAD. NO, AND I GUESS TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WE ALL HAVE THIS ELECTRONICALLY AND NOT ON PAPER. SO WE MAY BE GOING BACK AND FORTH AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT INFORMATION. THE BOARD HAD A WE HEARD A GRIEVANCE AT THE END OF AUGUST AT ONE POINT BEFORE WE HEARD THE GRIEVANCE, THERE WERE SEVEN TRUSTEES IN THIS ROOM AND TWO ATTORNEYS INFORMATION WAS SHARED WITH THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE GRIEVANT I AM SENDING THIS TO YOU SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN FALSE INFORMATION IN ALL CAPS BY ISD LEGAL. THE GRIEVANT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT IN THE ROOM WHEN WE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THERE WERE ONLY SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS, AS I SAID, AND TWO ATTORNEYS. I RESPONDED TO THE AGREEMENT. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK. WE WERE TOLD BY OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED HERE, BECAUSE THE GRIEVANT DID INCLUDE QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION THAT HE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAD GIVEN US , AND I SAID, AND WHICH OF THE TRUSTEES SHARED WITH YOU WHAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TOLD THE BOARD? I NEVER RECEIVED A RESPONSE BACK FROM THAT GRIEVANT. THERE WERE ONLY TWO TRUSTEES AT THE TIME THAT SPOKE TO THE GRIEVANT PRIOR TO, ON THE BREAKS, AND AFTERWARDS. SO I DID EMAIL AND I EMAILED TRUSTEE BONE INITIALLY, PER THE NEWLY ADOPTED BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, I FORWARDED THE EMAIL THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE GRIEVANT PER THE NEWLY ADOPTED BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. I AM EMAILING YOU TO DETAIL MY CONCERNS ABOUT YOU SHARING INFORMATION FROM CLOSED, PARTICULARLY INFORMATION FROM LEGAL COUNSEL, FROM CLOSED WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND IN THIS CASE SEE THE EMAIL BELOW AGREEMENT THAT APPEARED BEFORE THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE YOUR ASSURANCE THAT YOU WILL CEASE AND DESIST FROM THIS BEHAVIOR AND HONOR THE CODE OF ETHICS FOUND IN BBF LOCAL POLICY GOING FORWARD. I DID ALSO EMAIL SEPARATELY WITH MY CONCERNS TO THE OTHER TRUSTEE THAT HAD BEEN SPEAKING WITH AGREEMENT. THE OTHER TRUSTEE DENIED GIVING ANY INFORMATION. THERE WAS A CONVERSATION WHERE TRUSTEE BONE THEN ASKED, IS THIS FOR ME? WHAT LEGAL ADVICE DID I TELL WHEN AND TO WHOM? SHE ALSO THEN GOES INTO ACCUSATIONS AGAINST TO ME REGARDING THE IN ALL CAPS SIX TEC COMPLAINTS THAT I FILED, AND THEN SHE SAYS THIS WILL SERVE AS HER DETAILING HER CONCERNS ABOUT MY BEHAVIOR. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CEASE AND DESIST FROM THIS BEHAVIOR, AND THEN I RESPONDED , AND NOW I CAN'T FIND IT. I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED THESE OUT. YEAH, I KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THEM ALL IN THE RIGHT ORDER. SO I RESPONDED, I'M WILLING AND ABLE TO OFFICIALLY ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND SAY THAT WHILE I DO NOT FEEL IT WAS A VIOLATION OF BOARD OPERATING POLICY, I WILL NOT BE FILING ANY FURTHER ETHICS COMPLAINTS AGAINST YOU. I WILL REMIND YOU WELL THAT THEY WERE [INAUDIBLE] SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO TURN SOMETHING OFF. SO, AND THEN I RESPONDED FURTHER TO MY CONCERNS, WHICH YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED. CLEARLY, THE GRIEVANT WAS GIVEN A RECAP OF THE CONVERSATION HELD IN CLOSED REGARDING AN ISSUE. WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IN CLOSED. THERE WERE SEVEN TRUSTEES AND TWO ATTORNEYS THAT TOOK PART IN THAT DISCUSSION. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT EITHER OF THE ATTORNEYS RELAYED THE CONVERSATION TO THE GRIEVANT. NOR DO I BELIEVE THAT FIVE OF THE SEVEN TRUSTEES RELAYED THAT INFORMATION. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE GRIEVANT ABOUT HIS EMAIL AND HE HAS NOT RESPONDED. I HOPE YOU WILL DO ME THE SAME COURTESY OF ACTUALLY ADDRESSING MY CONCERNS REGARDING YOUR DISCUSSION AND NOT SIMPLY ATTEMPT TO DEFLECT BY MAKING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME. I WAS SIMPLY TRYING TO FOLLOW THE NEW BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IN MY INITIAL EMAIL. THERE WERE NO RESPONSES FROM TRUSTEE BONE AND I FORWARDED THEN TO PRESIDENT FELLER. IT HAD BEEN TWO WEEKS SINCE MY SECOND REQUEST TO TRUSTEE BONE ASKING HER TO ADDRESS MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE DISSEMINATION OF ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION NOT ONLY TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, BUT A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO WAS ALSO A GRIEVANT AGAINST THE DISTRICT FOR OUR NEWLY ADOPTED BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. PAGE SEVEN ITEM G(1)(B). I WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY STATE THAT I AM NOT SATISFIED WITH HER REFUSAL TO RESPOND TO MY CONCERNS, AND AS SUCH THERE IS NO RESOLUTION TO MY CONCERNS. [04:15:04] I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS ITEM TO BE PLACED ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION. THE SPECIFIC ETHICS POLICY VIOLATION IS FROM BBF. I WILL NOT DISCLOSE INFORMATION THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL BY LAW OR THAT WILL NEEDLESSLY HARM THE DISTRICT IF DISCLOSED. TRUSTEE BONE'S POSSIBLE DISSEMINATION OF CLOSED SESSION INFORMATION, PARTICULARLY ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION, MAY ALSO BE A CRIMINAL VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. IT WAS UNCLEAR IN THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IF I SHOULD INCLUDE TRUSTEE BONE IN THIS EMAIL. IF I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED HER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL FORWARD THIS TO HER CC'ING YOU BOTH. THAT WAS IN SEPTEMBER. ADDITIONALLY, AFTER THE ELECTIONS, JUST TO BE SAFE, I DID SPECIFICALLY ASK SEPARATELY TRUSTEE VESSA AND TRUSTEE JOHNSON, SINCE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE HERE AND BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION IF EITHER OF THEM HAD EVER SPOKEN TO THAT PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE EMAIL COPIES OF THOSE EMAILS, AND THE ANSWER WAS NO FROM BOTH OF THEM, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE OTHER EMAIL CHAIN WHERE. ALL THAT OTHER TRUSTEES SAID THAT THEY DID NOT SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR GRIEVANT ABOUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED, AND SO I'M NOW BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE AND AM UNSATISFIED WITH THAT. DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE, TRUSTEE BONE? WELL, GEE, I PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSES. SO LET'S SEE. FOR ONE, BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ACTUALLY SAYS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING, WHICH, AMY, YOU DID WRITE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS, SOME OF IT USING DATA YOU ONLY HAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE A TRUSTEE, WHICH IS A PENAL CODE VIOLATION. I'M GOING TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S REGARDING COMPLAINTS AGAINST ANOTHER TRUSTEE, THEY MAY NOT WANT THAT IN OPEN. SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLAINT AGAINST ANOTHER TRUSTEE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THAT IN CLOSED. THEY MAY NOT WANT IT IN OPEN LIKE YOU. SO WE NEED TO ASK THAT BOARD MEMBER. TRUSTEE WEIR? I THINK SHE CAN ANSWER WITHOUT DEFLECTING AND TRYING TO ATTACK. NO, ACTUALLY, NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO ANSWER. DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THAT PARTICULAR GRIEVANT ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID IN CLOSED, BECAUSE CLEARLY FROM HIS EMAIL HE KNEW WHAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED IN CLOSED WITH SEVEN TRUSTEES AND TWO ATTORNEYS. I MEAN, WE CAN GO DOWN THE ROW. I MEAN, NOT TRUSTEE MARKUM, BUT WELL, ACTUALLY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING THAT YOU WROTE THIS IN SEPTEMBER, AND TODAY IS JANUARY , AND WE HAD MANY, MANY BOARD MEETINGS IN BETWEEN THEN AND NOW, AND WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE HAD TWO TRUSTEES SITTING AT THE DAIS THAT WERE ACTUALLY AT THAT MEETING AND COULD ACTUALLY SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY OF THAT SITUATION, BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS, AMY, THAT YOU SAY IN THERE, IT'S JUST ALL FALSE. IT'S ALL NEGATIVE. YOU DIDN'T THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT'S FACTUAL. FOR ONE, THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THAT HAPPENED AND CLOSED NEVER HAPPENED, I WASN'T A PART OF IT. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT CONVERSATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF IN THERE THAT'S MADE UP. THERE WAS NOT A CONVERSATION, THERE WAS NOT LEGAL ADVICE GIVEN. SO WHATEVER CONVERSATION, I REALLY GO BACK. I'VE RESPONDED TO YOU. IS THIS TO ME? BECAUSE THE STUFF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, I WASN'T EVEN A PART OF. I WASN'T, THERE WAS NO LEGAL ADVICE GIVEN IN CLOSED. I RECALL THAT THERE WAS, BUT YOU GUYS HAD SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION IN THE BACK ROOM, I BELIEVE, BUT IT WASN'T OUT HERE AT THE DAIS AND I DIDN'T I NEVER HAD I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO BIZARRE. I MEAN, YOU GUYS MAKE UP STUFF AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME PRESENTED AS TRUTH, AND IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE HAD THE ACTUAL GRIEVANT. I CAN LET ME READ IT AGAIN. I WILL PULL IT RIGHT BACK UP BECAUSE SOMEHOW THE GRIEVANT UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION IN CLOSED. WELL, THERE'S SIX OTHER PEOPLE AND OH, I SEE. SO MARY'S THE LIAR, BUT [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE THE ONE THAT DIDN'T ANSWER. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT REFUSED TO ANSWER. I DON'T RESPOND TO A FALSE QUESTIONS THAT THE PREMISE OF THEM IS FALSE. LIKE, I DON'T RESPOND TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ADULTS DO. ADULTS, WHEN YOU ASK ME, LIKE FALSE, LIKE JUST EVERYTHING IN THERE WAS FALSE. LIKE NONE OF IT WAS EVEN TRUE. THERE WAS NOT SEVEN PEOPLE ON A DAIS WITH TWO LAWYERS GIVING LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THAT EMAIL THAT GRIEVANT WROTE. [04:20:01] SO YOU'RE THE STUFF YOU WERE EVEN MAKING UP. I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? AND I TOLD YOU, I ACTUALLY ASKED YOU QUESTIONS AND YOU DIDN'T RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS. YOU ACTUALLY, IN THE EMAIL DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. JUST AS AND LET'S POINT THIS OUT. SO HERE WE ARE VIOLATING BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS POSTED. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. I DO HAVE THE EMAILS FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT DIDN'T EVEN POST TONIGHT CORRECTLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I WAS COMING IN HERE ABOUT. I ASKED HER AND SHE TOLD ME IT WAS A TOMA VIOLATION. SHOW ME AN EMAIL WHERE I SAID THAT. SHOW ME. LET ME PULL IT UP. I TOLD YOU THAT I WAS NOT WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TOMA. I DID NOT SAY THAT THE REASON YOU WERE COMING IN HERE IS BECAUSE YOU VIOLATED TOMA. NOWHERE DID I SAY THAT. YEAH, I WILL READ YOU. AMBER, DOCTOR FALTYS IS ON IT. DOCTOR AZAIEZ IS ON IT. I AM ON IT. THIS WAS JANUARY 18TH. WHICH, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT WAS YESTERDAY. MARY, I'VE TOLD YOU NUMEROUS TIMES I WILL NOT DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEM AMY HAS REQUESTED ABOUT YOU DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT TOMA VIOLATIONS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK HER FOR PROOF IF YOU WANT. OR YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW NIGHT WHEN WE ARE IN LEGALLY CALLED BOARD MEETING. SHE WON'T DISCUSS IT WITH ME. SHE DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT IT'S ABOUT. I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL FROM YOU STATING, OH, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER. WHY IS IT JUST NOW BEING PUT ON AN AGENDA? YEAH. SO YOU DID KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT. NO, I ASKED YOU THAT, AND YOU NEVER RESPONDED THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. I SAID, IS IT THE ONE IN SEPTEMBER? AND YOU DON'T EVEN RESPOND TO THAT. YOU DON'T TELL ME, AND I SAID, WELL, SHOW ME THE PROOF, BECAUSE IN OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, AMY WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE SENT YOU AN EMAIL DETAILING OUT HER CONCERNS, AND SHE DID. SHE SENT IT ON OCTOBER THE THIRD, AND I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT AMY FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO BE BROUGHT INTO A POSSIBLE TOMA VIOLATION WITH SINCE SHE HAD CONTACTED MULTIPLE TRUSTEES, MULTIPLE TIMES, TRUSTEE BONE I SAID PLEASE CONTACT TRUSTEE WEIR IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. MULTIPLE TIMES YESTERDAY AND YESTERDAY WAS THE 18TH. TODAY IS THE 19TH. YEAH, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE I HAVE MANY OTHER THINGS AND EVEN IF I WOULD HAVE [INAUDIBLE] MANY TIMES BEFORE THIS HERE'S THE DEAL. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA OR THE DAY IT WAS POSTED. WE GET A DRAFT AGENDA JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S REFERENCE, AND WHEN THAT DRAFT AGENDA CAME OUT, IN FACT, THE DRAFT AGENDA WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. IT ALSO HAD THAT YOU WERE ALREADY GOING TO TAKE ME TO CENSURE, WHICH THAT IS NOT OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, AND THEN BY THE TIME THAT I GOT THIS AGENDA, WE HAD A LONG WEEKEND. ALL THE STAFF IS OUT, AND I'M ASKING YOU, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? AND I NEVER GET A CLEAR ANSWER. HERE'S AN EMAIL FROM YOU ON DECEMBER EXCUSE ME, ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT AMY'S COMMUNICATION. I WON'T DISCUSS THIS TOPIC, BUT I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AND AMY COPIED YOU ON THE EMAIL TO ME ABOUT THE TOPIC, AND I REPLIED TO BOTH OF YOU, SO YOU HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THIS CONVERSATION. YOU WROTE THAT EMAIL ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH AND YOU WERE AWARE OF THE ITEM? YEAH, ON NOVEMBER 28TH, Y'ALL. I WAS AWARE OF THE ITEM, BUT HOW MANY TIMES TRUSTEE WESTON HAVE WE GOTTEN ON THIS DAIS AND HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE HAD NO IDEA ABOUT? AND THEY LIKE CHANGE. WE THINK IT'S ABOUT IT'S LIKE A GUESSING GAME. WE HAVE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WE HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS, AND YOU ALL VIOLATE THEM ALL THE TIME. I CAME IN HERE TONIGHT, I SAID IT IN CLOSED. I'LL SAY IT HERE. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS COMING IN HERE TONIGHT. AMBER, YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT YOU WOULD NOT TELL ME BECAUSE YOU WERE AFRAID THAT YOU WERE VIOLATING TOMA. VALERIE. YOU DIDN'T LET VALERIE DO IT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID I WILL NOT DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU. IT RELATES TO THE EVENT IN SEPTEMBER. PLEASE CONTACT TRUSTEE WEIR FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. OKAY. SO SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. I HAVE COME TO BOARD MEETINGS AND JUST LET'S SET THIS UP. A QUICK REVIEW OF AGENDAS IN ROUND ROCK ISD FOR THE LAST 16 MONTHS SHOWS THAT TONIGHT IS THE NINTH TIME. THAT ONE OR MORE OF THE THREE BOARD OFFICERS. HAS PUT SOME SORT OF CENSURE SANCTION SOMETHING. I'M GOING TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THAT? NOW, LISTEN, I WILL TELL YOU. I MEAN, CAN I READ WHAT YOUR RESPONSE TO ME WAS? SO YOU STARTED BY SAYING THAT YOU HOPED YOU WOULD NOT BE INTERRUPTED, BUT CAN WE STICK TO WHAT'S RELEVANT? I'M GETTING THERE. THIS IS THE NINTH TIME. SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN COMING TO BOARD MEETINGS UNDER THREAT FROM ONE OR MORE OF THE THREE OF YOU, AND I HAVE [04:25:09] EXPERIENCE WHERE I HAVE SPENT HOURS OF MY LIFE WITH MY ATTORNEY PREPARING TO COME IN TO DEAL WITH ONE OR MORE OF THEM, AND WHEN I GOT HERE AND THEN YOU I LEARNED WHAT YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I THOUGHT WAS SO OBVIOUS THAT WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE SYMPATHY HERE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE AND I WOULD THINK AT A MINIMUM , AND, YOU KNOW, THIS TOMA CONCERN. LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A COP OUT. I THINK IT'S A COP OUT. I THINK IT DEMONSTRATES BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING, WE HAVE AGENDA SETTING MEETINGS. I MEAN, WE TALK TO EACH OTHER AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SUBSTANTIVELY THE ISSUE, MARY AND ANYBODY, ANY OF US, WE SHOULD ALL EXTEND THE SAME PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH YOU BECAUSE ON DECEMBER 1ST OF 2022, YOU CROSS THE STREET WITHOUT LOOKING BOTH WAYS. NOW I HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK OFF OF TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETING. NOW, I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS YOU, AMY, SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS SO OBVIOUS. WHAT YOUR ISSUE IS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY IT, AND I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A CASE FOR THAT, BUT IN THIS COUNTRY, WHEN IT COMES TO DUE PROCESS, THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES AND THAT IS THAT THE ACCUSED BE INFORMED OF WHAT THEY ARE ACCUSED OF IN A CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND WAY. MARY HAS TOLD US IT IS NOT CLEAR TO HER BASED ON HOW THIS IS WORDED, SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK IT WOULD DEMONSTRATE GOOD FAITH TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THINGS THAT ARE TRUE, I DON'T KNOW HOW PRODUCTIVE AND IN GOOD FAITH OF A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE. SO IT WAS AMISS THE WAY THIS WAS HANDLED WAS AMISS. I HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH AT 12:32. MARY, THE AGENDA ITEM HAS TO DO WITH AMY'S CONCERN ABOUT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION BEING SHARED FROM A GRIEVANCE. AS I RECALL, AMY HAS PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED WITH YOU ABOUT THIS CONCERN PER UPDATED BOARD POLICY. I HAVE COPIED TRUSTEE WEIR ON THIS EMAIL IN CASE FURTHER CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED. THIS SHOULD SATISFY YOUR REQUEST FOR WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM RELATES TO. THAT WAS TWO SEPARATE EMAILS. SO WHERE IN THAT DOES IT SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE JANUARY REGULAR BOARD MEETING AGENDA? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LOOK THROUGH EVERY. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE SAID IT IS RELATED TO AMY'S CONCERN. PLEASE CONTACT AMY FOR ADDITIONAL. DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID? I'VE COME HERE THINKING THAT IT'S SO OBVIOUS YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. TO ME, IT'S JUST OBVIOUS IT'S GOING TO BE THIS, AND THEN I GET HERE, AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, NO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I'M TELLING YOU, THAT HAS HAPPENED AND I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT AT ALL. I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT TRUSTEE BONE AND I HAVE LITERALLY TWO EMAILS TO EACH OTHER PROBABLY IN THE LAST YEAR, AND THERE ARE THESE TWO. SO I MEAN, TO NOT TO SAY THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EMAIL FROM ME WHERE ANYONE IS TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY I ASSUMED I MEAN WE HAVE LITERALLY THIS SEPTEMBER 18TH EMAIL MINE TO HER, HER RESPONSE TO ME AND MINE BACK. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE COMMUNICATED SINCE I HAVEN'T BEEN BOARD PRESIDENT, JUST THE TWO OF US. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I DID THINK THAT THERE COULDN'T BE ANY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT PARTICULAR OTHER THAN 6 TEC COMPLAINTS. SO I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT THAT, AND I'LL TELL YOU, I MEAN, I RESPONDED TO YOU ABOUT THAT. PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN RICH OFF OF THE INABILITY OF OTHER PEOPLE TO COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY. THEY'RE CALLED LIKE MARITAL COUNSELORS AND ALL KINDS OF COUNSELORS. POINT OF ORDER. WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS DIFFICULT AND YOU HAVE TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF SPECIFICITY. EVEN WHEN YOU GET A SPEEDING TICKET, THE COP DOESN'T SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST. NO, HE SAYS ON DECEMBER 1ST AT 4:52 P.M., YOU WERE GOING 52 IN A 40, AND I SPOTTED YOU WITH MY RADAR. THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE ACCUSED I MEAN, THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL PRECEPT. I THINK WE'RE IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION BECAUSE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND NOT VIOLATE TOMA. I'M JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, AND REALLY THE REALITY IS THAT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IN A BOARD MEETING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE EMAIL CAN BE SENT OUT BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, AND MAYBE THAT'S LEGAL GUIDANCE THAT WE CAN'T HAVE AN OPEN, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS [04:30:08] THE WAY IT HAS TO BE DONE. HOWEVER, I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING I SAW IN THESE EMAILS THAT I THOUGHT WAS AWESOME. TRUSTEE WEIR SENT YOU AN EMAIL, TRUSTEE WESTON, AND YOU ACKNOWLEDGED HER EMAIL, AND IN THE EMAIL YOU ACTUALLY SAID, THANK YOU FOR EMAILING ME. I LIKE THAT WE COULD JUST DISCUSS THIS AND WORK THROUGH THIS, AND YOU ACKNOWLEDGED HER EMAIL. YOU SAID I DIDN'T DO X, Y, Z AND YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HER EMAIL AND YOU THANKED HER FOR COMMUNICATING WITH YOU. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE HERE AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT IS AFTER MIDNIGHT, BUT I THINK THE ISSUE IS HERE, DR. BONE DID NOT DO WHAT YOU DID. SHE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE EMAIL AND WE HAD JUST BEEN THROUGH THIS PRETTY LABORIOUS PROCESS OF WHICH YOU ACTUALLY WORKED REALLY HARD BECAUSE YOU WORKED WITH DR. JOHNSON TO REDO THE PROCEDURES AROUND OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES TO COME TO THIS AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, GO TO THE PERSON YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FIRST AND TRY TO RESOLVE IT SOMEWHAT INFORMALLY. IN THIS INSTANCE, I DO FEEL LIKE TRUSTEE WEIR DID THAT. AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT YOUR VERY REASONABLE RESPONSE BACK TO HER IS A TESTAMENT TO THE WAY THIS PROCESS CAN WORK. UNFORTUNATELY, DR. BONE DID NOT RESPOND. SHE DENIED AND REVERSED VICTIM OFFENDER, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A VERY ABUSIVE TACTIC. INSTEAD OF JUST ACKNOWLEDGING AND SAYING, NO, I DIDN'T DO THAT. YES, I DID THAT, AND THERE WASN'T THAT INFORMAL RESOLUTION. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. WELL, BUT I THINK THE THING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND OF A RELATIONSHIP, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS EMAIL AND MARY SAYS, YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE AS VALID AS THE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS THAT WERE ALL DISMISSED THAT YOU FILED. SO IF THOSE ARE ALL DISMISSED, TO ME, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS TO READ THAT MARY IS SAYING THIS IS A FISTFUL OF AIR. THERE'S NO THERE THERE, AND I MEAN, HOW PEOPLE RESPOND DIFFERENTLY. I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME, TIFFANY, DANIELLE, WHICH DO YOU HATE MORE KITTENS OR PUPPIES, I WOULD SAY, WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S A FALSE WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT, A DOUBLE? THERE'S LIKE A GRAMMATICAL PHRASE FOR THAT. LIKE, I REJECT THE PREMISE OF YOUR QUESTION, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MARY IS DOING, AND SHE'S DRAWING AN ANALOGY TO SIX ETHICS COMPLAINTS THAT WERE ALL DISMISSED. SO I READ A WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A DENIAL, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LEFT TO INTERPRETATION, BUT DENIAL WOULD BE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANTED CLARITY, BECAUSE FROM THESE EMAILS IT SEEMS LIKE TRUSTEE WEIR CAME BACK AGAIN AND SAID, BUT NO, REALLY, I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION. CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER? AND I THINK FOR ME, ONE THING THAT'S ALSO CHALLENGING IS THAT THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS IS DANGEROUS. IT'S DANGEROUS FOR US AND IT'S DANGEROUS FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO INTERPRETATION. I HEAR AND HONOR YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY ANOTHER WAY WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO DISCUSS AND GET DOCUMENTATION. SO I HONOR THAT, THAT IT'S FRUSTRATING, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE PROCESS, AND EVEN NOW, WHAT IS THE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD? SO WE'RE NOT HERE ALL NIGHT, AND I THINK TOO, WE CAN SAY THAT IT'S PEOPLE RESPOND DIFFERENTLY, AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS YOU AND DR. JOHNSON THAT WORKED TOGETHER TO REFINE THAT PROCESS, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROCESS. I AGREE, AND AMBER, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROCESS AND IT SEEMS TO WORK REALLY WELL, AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE DO RESPOND DIFFERENTLY TO THINGS, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT LAYS OUT HOW YOU SHOULD RESPOND TO A REQUEST LIKE THAT, AND IN YOUR INSTANCE, LIKE TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID, I MEAN, I READ THE EMAIL, YOU RESPONDED THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS SHOULD WORK. DR. BONE DID NOT, AND SO THEN IT REQUIRES FURTHER INVESTIGATION BECAUSE IF YOU'RE REFUSING TO ANSWER, I MEAN, IT IS TO GO BACK TO SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS EARLIER. IT IS A SIMPLE YES OR NO, AND EVERY OTHER TRUSTEE GAVE THAT ANSWER , AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING IF THIS DID NOT OCCUR, TO BE ASKED THE QUESTION TO FEEL LIKE IT'S ACCUSATORY. I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE BEING UP HERE ON THE DAIS, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, AND THAT'S VALID, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS NOW, AND IN ORDER FOR A PROCESS TO WORK AND TO VET THAT PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. FOR ONE, THE PROCESS IS NOT TO ACCUSE TRUSTEES OF THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE. IF I SEE YOU STEAL A PIECE OF GUM, THEN I SHOULD SAY TRUSTEE MARKUM, YOU STOLE A PIECE OF GUM. [04:35:04] I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU DO THAT. IF I DIDN'T SEE YOU STEAL THE PIECE OF GUM BACK THERE, I SHOULDN'T GO, TRUSTEE MARKUM, I KNOW IT WAS YOU THAT STOLE THAT GUM. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PROCESS SAYS. SO MY PREMISE IS THAT THE ACCUSATIONS AND I DEAL WITH THIS STUFF. MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT'S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE I KNOW DANIELLE SAID YES OR NO, BUT I DEAL WITH THIS STUFF AT WORK ALL THE TIME. YOU DO NOT GIVE A YES OR NO QUESTION TO A FALSE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE IS NO YES OR NO. THERE IS NO YES, I DID THAT OR NO, I DIDN'T, BECAUSE THE WHOLE INFORMATION THAT SHE GAVE DOESN'T EXIST. THERE WAS NO SEVEN PEOPLE SITTING ON THE DAIS WITH TWO LAWYERS GIVING SOME KIND OF ADVICE ABOUT THIS. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, AND THAT'S WHY I RESPONDED THE WAY I DID. PEOPLE CAN REMEMBER THINGS DIFFERENTLY. MAYBE I WAS TOTALLY JUST ZONED OUT AND WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, BUT THIS QUESTION, AND I DO SAY YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE AS VALID AS THE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS THAT ARE ALL DISMISSED THAT YOU FILED, AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S CALLED CONTEXT, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK DURING THIS TIME, TRUSTEE WEIR IS USING DISTRICT RESOURCES--POINT OF ORDER. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO IF IT'S A COMPLAINT AGAINST ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER, IT'S NOT A COMPLAINT, IT'S CONTEXT FOR THIS. [INAUDIBLE] THE CONTEXT OF IT IS THAT OTHER THINGS WERE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. THAT SHOWS THAT THIS EMAIL WAS NOT POOR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING I HAD DONE. SHE HAD NOT SEEN ME. SHE DIDN'T SAY I SAW YOU STOLE THE PIECE OF GUM. IN FACT, WHAT HASN'T BEEN NOTICED IS THAT THE VIOLATION OF BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE OF INVESTIGATING OTHER TRUSTEES BY GOING AND ASKING OTHER TRUSTEES, DID YOU DO THIS? DID YOU DO THIS? OH, WELL, THEY DIDN'T DO IT. BECAUSE WHAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IS WHY WERE THE OTHER EMAILS OR THE OTHER TRUSTEES, DID YOU TALK TO THIS PERSON? WAS THAT THE EMAIL I GOT? BECAUSE IF SHE WOULD HAVE ASKED ME, DID YOU TALK TO THIS PERSON? I WOULD HAVE SAID YES OR NO. THAT'S A YES OR NO QUESTION. BUT THIS WAS NOT A YES OR NO QUESTION. THIS WAS AN ACCUSATION THAT WAS FALSE. ALL OF IT'S FALSE. THERE IS NO YES OR NO, AND SHE GOT THE ANSWER SHE DESERVED, AND I KNOW YOU ALL WILL NOT SEE IT THAT WAY. I KNOW. I MEAN, AND BY THE WAY, WHY WAS THIS NOT PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE? I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS TURNS. I WAS GOING TO GO PUT IT ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW THIS TURNS OUT TONIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE ALL GOING TO VOTE. ALICIA, AND [INAUDIBLE] WERE NOT EVEN IN THE MEETING. THEY HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. YOU GUYS DIDN'T DO THIS BEFORE. WE HAD NEW TRUSTEES WHEN THIS WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN AN OPEN CONVERSATION WITH SEVEN TRUSTEES. FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU GUYS WAITED UNTIL YOU HAD OTHER TRUSTEES. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT ONE. THAT'S OCTOBER 3RD. SHE BROUGHT THIS TO ME ON OCTOBER 3RD, WHICH WAS NOT TEN DAYS BEFORE THE OCTOBER AGENDA, AND THEN WE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA IF SHE WAS AN OUTGOING TRUSTEE. SO I DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING ON THE NOVEMBER AGENDA BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE WON THE ELECTION OR NOT, AND IF SHE WAS NO LONGER A SITTING TRUSTEE, THEN IT WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE DECEMBER AGENDA BECAUSE I HAVE SAT IN THIS DAIS AND TAKEN OVER THE PRESIDENCY OVER AN AGENDA THAT SOMEONE ELSE CREATED IN DECEMBER OF 2020 EXCUSE ME, 2021, WHEN YOU ALL ELECTED ME PRESIDENT, THE FIRST TIME I SAT DOWN TO AN AGENDA THAT I DIDN'T HELP CREATE, I DIDN'T SIT DOWN IN ON THE AGENDA SETTING AND IT WAS VERY HARD TO SIT IN THIS ROLE FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME AND HAVE TO WORK SOMEBODY ELSE'S AGENDA. SO I DIDN'T PUT IT ON DECEMBER FOR THAT REASON BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING TO BE SITTING IN THE PRESIDENT'S ROLE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST AVAILABLE MEETING TO HAVE THIS GO ON AN AGENDA. THAT'S THE ANSWER. THAT'S MY LOGIC. I HAVE EMAILS SAYING THAT YOU THINK MY LOGIC IS IDIOTIC, BUT THAT'S THE LOGIC THAT I USED. YEAH, IT IS, BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING AND IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT WE DO TO THE STUDENTS OF ROUND ROCK, WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IS THAT NOW I'M BEING ACCUSED. YOU ALL PUT MY NAME ON AN AGENDA WHICH GIVES ME LEGAL RIGHTS. THAT'S LEGAL RIGHTS YOU ALL. I GET LEGAL RIGHTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING. I HAVE A BOARD OFFICER ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING IN AN EMAIL WHERE MULTIPLE PARTS OF IT ARE FALSE, AND THEN YOU ALL ARE UPSET THAT I DIDN'T PLAY ALONG WITH THIS VERY VICIOUS GAME THAT YOU ALL LIKE TO PLAY. CAN I SAY SOMETHING HERE? HAS ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE ENDURED SIX TEXAS ETHICS COMPLAINTS? PROBABLY ME, BUT NOT FROM TRUSTEE WEIR, BUT FROM PEOPLE YOU ALL KNOW. [04:40:03] YEAH, BUT NOT FROM PEOPLE, SOMEBODY WHO HAS POWER OVER YOU ON THIS DAIS. NOBODY HAS THE POWER; WE'RE LATERAL, ALL DULY ELECTED. WELL, YOU HAVE A VOTE AND AGENDA ITEMS. SO AGAIN, THIS SPEAKS TO CONTEXT BECAUSE WHEN I READ AGAIN WHEN IT SAYS WHEN MARY SAYS TO AMY, YOUR ACCUSATIONS HERE ARE AS VALID AS THE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS THAT WERE ALL DISMISSED. [INAUDIBLE] WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHO FILED THOSE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYBODY. I'M READING WHAT'S IN THIS EMAIL. I UNDERSTAND [INAUDIBLE]. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF SHE HAS AN ISSUE WITH [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION COMING OUT OF THIS BOARD TO A GRIEVANT. THIS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NOT. NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO ME, WHEN I READ THAT LINE, THAT'S A DENIAL. BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND SAID, OKAY, HERE'S MY ANSWER TO YOUR DEFLECTION ATTACKS. I WOULD LIKE THE SAME COURTESY, PLEASE ANSWER. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, OKAY, SO OFTEN IN CONFLICT RESOLUTION, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE OTHER PERSON'S SHOES, AND IT'S HARD. IT TAKES EFFORT. IN SOME CASES, IT TAKES TRAINING AND IN SOME CASES SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T DO IT. THAT'S HOW HARD IT IS. SO I'M TRYING TO SET UP THE CONTEXT HERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER. NO, AMY, THIS IS NOT AN EMAIL TO YOUR HUSBAND OR AN EMAIL TO YOUR FRIEND TIFFANY. THIS IS AN EMAIL TO SOMEBODY THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN ADVERSARIAL ACTION THAT SHE HAD TO RETAIN AN ATTORNEY. YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN MARY RECEIVES THIS EMAIL, SHE DOESN'T RECEIVE IT WITH A CLEAN SLATE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS AN ADVERSARIAL EMAIL, AND WHEN YOU FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR EVEN COMPREHEND THAT AND THEN THIS--AND CAN I POINT OUT TRUSTEE WESTON AND TRUSTEE WEIR, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AND THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL DO AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT. I MEAN, AND MAYBE WE'RE BLINDED FROM BOTH SIDES, AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF OUR PROBLEM WITH OUR BOARD, BUT YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT IF YOU READ YOUR REPLY TO ME, YOU AGAIN ACCUSE ME. YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE FALSE. I CAN'T SAY YES OR NO BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY SAY MY CONCERNS REGARDING YOUR DISCUSSION WITH MR. HENDRICKSON. YOU'RE ALREADY TELLING ME THAT I HAD A DISCUSSION. YOU DID, YOU LITERALLY HAD A DISCUSSION. HE WALKED UP HERE WITH HERE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IN THE HALLWAY. HE ASKED FOR MY BUSINESS CARD, AND I WAS AFRAID HE WAS GOING TO SEND ME A NASTY EMAIL. THERE WERE ABSOLUTELY NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR, AMY, BECAUSE YOU ACCUSED ME. IT WASN'T MARY. VALERIE WAS RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE YOU WERE PRETTY MUCH PARDON MY LANGUAGE, BUT OFF THE RAILS. YOU WERE OFF THE RAILS ACCUSING ME OF STUFF BECAUSE I'M LIKE, VALERIE WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE END WHEN HE CAME UP AND TALKED TO ME. SO MR. HENDRICKSON CAME RIGHT HERE AND TALKED TO US, BUT THIS IS NOT THE CONCERNS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, AND YOU'RE SAYING YOUR DISCUSSION WITH MR. HENDRICKSON AND NOT SIMPLY ATTEMPT TO DEFLECT BY MAKING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME. YOU DIDN'T ASK ME QUESTIONS THAT I COULD SAY YES OR NO OR RESPOND TO. YOU WERE FIRING AT ME LIKE A CRAZED, AND MAY I JUST ADD, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA FROM THIS GRIEVANCE HEARING. IT IS A GRIEVANCE FROM THE GRIEVANT AGAINST A TRUSTEE ABOUT THAT TRUSTEES BEHAVIOR. I THINK ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA. THERE IS NOTHING ON THAT AGENDA ABOUT GETTING LEGAL ADVICE AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ABOUT A TOPIC UNRELATED TO THE GRIEVANCE. BINGO. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THROUGH YOUR EMAIL, AMY, AND THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT, AND I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER IF I PUT IT IN MY RESPONSE, AND I MAY HAVE I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK, BUT YOU'RE ALMOST INCRIMINATING THE ENTIRE BOARD AND THE ATTORNEY, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT LEGAL ADVICE ON A TOPIC UNRELATED TO ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA EVEN OCCURRED. THE TOPIC WAS A LEVEL THREE GRIEVANT FROM SO-AND-SO. THERE WAS NO TOPIC. WE NEVER PUT THE TOPICS ON THE AGENDA, AND SO WE WERE RECEIVING LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCE. SO AND I KNOW WHAT THAT GRIEVANCE WAS NOT ABOUT, AND IT WAS NOT ABOUT THESE COPY AND PASTED PARTS OF THE PENAL CODE THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS CITING THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE ONLY WAY THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION WAS IF THEY GOT INFORMATION FROM CLOSED SESSION. [04:45:09] HE STOOD RIGHT OVER THERE. I WAS STANDING BACK HERE AND VALERIE AND MARY AND HIM, HE WAS COMING UP HERE AND COMPLAINING, AND ALSO AMBER CAME INTO THAT MEETING EXPRESSING SOME CONCERN ABOUT A PARTICULAR PERSON, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO BE AT THE DAIS FOR THE GRIEVANCE BECAUSE OF CONCERNS OVER THAT MATTER. THERE WAS NO LEGAL ADVICE. IT WAS JUST THIS PERSON WAS NOT GOING TO BE HERE, AND VALERIE WAS TALKING WHILE THE GRIEVANT WAS STANDING RIGHT OVER THERE ABOUT ON THIS TOPIC THAT'S BEEN COPIED AND PASTED RIGHT OVER THERE. SHE, THE GRIEVANT, AND MARY WERE ALL THREE STANDING THERE. BUT I WILL JUST SAY VALERIE IS NOT WHO'S MENTIONED IN THIS LETTER, AND I WILL STAND BY WHAT I SAID. THERE WERE TWO TRUSTEES THAT WERE SPEAKING TO HIM BEFORE, DURING, AFTER THIS WHOLE THING. HE WROTE US AN EMAIL SAYING THAT THE INFORMATION WE GOT WAS WRONG. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS MATTER WAS RESOLVED. I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH C AND RECOMMEND SPECIFIC TRAINING AND A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND IN A PUBLIC MEETING, AND I WOULD SAY I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU ASKED FOR EVIDENCE. THERE YOU GO. [INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE NOT BOTH GOING TO BE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU'RE NOT ON THE MICROPHONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOTH BE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME. YOU'RE BOTH WELCOME TO HAVE THE FLOOR. I'M NOT MAKING PEOPLE CALL ON, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK OVER EACH OTHER. GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE WESTON. AMY, YOU'RE TALKING AS THOUGH, LIKE, SOME SORT OF AUDIO RECORDING PROOF HAS BEEN PROVIDED OR SOME SORT OF VIDEO PROOF HAS BEEN PROVIDED. ALL THIS IS, IS AN INDIVIDUAL, WHICH SOME PEOPLE SEND US EMAILS AND THEY LIE ABOUT YOU. THEY TELL US LIES ABOUT YOU AND THEY TELL US YOU'RE A DIRTBAG, AND I DON'T SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND SAY, OH, DID YOU ACTUALLY DO SUCH AND SUCH? DID YOU REALLY DO THIS? I'M LIKE, THIS IS JUST PART OF BEING A BOARD MEMBER, IS YOU GET ACCUSED OF ALL HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. SO ALL THIS PERSON IS SAYING IS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN FALSE INFORMATION AND THEN IT'S A COPY AND A PASTE FROM THE PENAL CODE. SO WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MARY SHARED CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE? I DON'T SEE IT. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CAN CONTINUE TO SAY. I WILL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME. WE HAD A GRIEVANT. WE HAD A CONVERSATION IN CLOSED SESSION WITH SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS AND TWO ATTORNEYS. WE THEN HAD A GRIEVANT EMAIL US TELLING US THAT THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM OUR ISD ATTORNEY WAS INCORRECT AND THEY DID COPY AND PASTE THINGS FROM THE PENAL CODE. NOW, THAT PERSON HAD TO HAVE GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION FROM SOMEONE. THERE WERE SEVEN AND TWO. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT NEITHER OF THE ATTORNEYS BROKE THEIR ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THERE WERE TWO THERE WERE TWO TRUSTEES THAT WERE HAVING MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. THAT'S WHY I ASKED BECAUSE SOMEONE GAVE OUT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION GAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM CLOSED. THE PROOF IS IN THE EMAIL THAT WE GOT FROM THE GRIEVANT. THAT IS IT. I MEAN, THE GRIEVANT GOT INFORMATION. IT DIDN'T JUST GET IT FROM OSMOSIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK THE LINK YOU MIGHT BE MISSING IS THE SRO BECAUSE THE GRIEVANT AND THE SRO, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, BECAUSE THE GRIEVANT MADE MENTION OF THIS TO VALERIE THAT HE WAS INSPECTED BY AN SRO WHO WAS CITING WHATEVER AND SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH TALKING TO THAT SRO. I MEAN, BECAUSE HE WAS INSPECTING HIM FOR A SPECIFIC REASON ABOUT A CERTAIN THING THAT APPLIES TO THIS. CAN I READ THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS THE GENESIS THAT I THINK THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, AMY, YOU'RE NOT READING THIS LIKE WITH ANY KIND OF SENSE. I'M SENDING THIS TO YOU. THIS WAS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND LEGAL. THE WHO YOU ARE. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THAT YOU ARE THAT THIS PERSON IS REFERENCING. I'M SENDING THIS TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF HE MEANS AMY OR I DON'T KNOW IF HE MEANS LEGAL, AND YEAH, OUR DR. AZAIEZ, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS PERSON AND I DO KNOW THAT HE PROBABLY KNOWS THAT THIS GOES TO DR. AZAIEZ. SO I'M SENDING THIS TO YOU SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN GIVE FALSE INFORMATION BY ISD LEGAL. SO AND HE NEVER REFERENCES WHAT THAT FALSE INFORMATION BY ISD LEGAL IS, AND THEN THE GRIEVANT GOES ON TO QUOTE SOME PENAL CODE. [04:50:03] SO, WHAT FALSE INFORMATION? I FOLLOWED UP WITH HIM AND HE DECIDED NOT TO RESPOND, JUST AS YOU DECIDED NOT TO RESPOND. WELL, THAT'S MY ISSUE. THAT IS YOUR ISSUE. IS THAT, THAT IS YOUR ISSUE. YOUR ISSUE IS I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE RESPONSE YOU WANTED, AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU DIDN'T ASK. YOU DIDN'T ASK. THAT'S THE OTHER THING. YOU DIDN'T ASK ME A QUESTION. YOU TOLD ME YOU SAID, I'M EMAILING YOU TO DETAIL MY CONCERNS ABOUT YOU SHARING INFORMATION FROM CLOSED. YOU DIDN'T SAY, HEY, MARY, DID YOU SHARE INFORMATION FROM CLOSED? YOU SAID, I'M EMAILING YOU TO DETAIL MY CONCERNS ABOUT YOU SHARING INFORMATION FROM CLOSED. YOU THINK WHEN I READ THAT, I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU DIDN'T ASK ME A QUESTION, AND THEN YOU GO ON PARTICULARLY INFORMATION FROM LEGAL COUNSEL, FROM CLOSED WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU REPLIED TO THIS OTHER EMAIL. THAT HAS NO INFORMATION. HE TALKS ABOUT FALSE INFORMATION AND HE GIVES PENAL CODE, AND BY THE WAY, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S VERY CLEAR AND THIS ISN'T YOU CAN JUST SAY YES OR NO BECAUSE IT'S NOT LEGAL ADVICE, BUT IF YOU TOLD ME THE PENAL CODE IS THAT LEGAL ADVICE? IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT LEGAL ADVICE. IF YOU JUST SAY, HEY, MARY, THE PENAL CODE SAYS THIS, THAT'S NOT LEGAL ADVICE. SO HE DOESN'T REFERENCE ANY PENAL CODE OR ANY I MEAN, HE GIVES NO LEGAL ADVICE. HE DOESN'T SAY YOUR LAWYER SAID THIS OR THAT. HE HAS NO LEGAL ADVICE, AND I'M RECEIVING THIS, AMY. SEE, THIS IS THE CONTEXT YOU HAVE TO GET. I'M RECEIVING THIS ON THE HEELS OF SOME OTHER STUFF FROM YOU. I USE THE WORDS EXACTLY FROM I MEAN, CONCERNED TRUSTEE. I TRIED TO USE THE WORDS EXACTLY FROM THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES BECAUSE I KNEW IF I DIDN'T USE THE EXACT TERM, WHICH IS CONCERN IN HERE, THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOUR DEFLECTION WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOUR ATTACK WOULD BE IF I DIDN'T USE THE EXACT WORDS AND NOW THAT I'VE USED THE EXACT WORDS, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO SAY. NO, BECAUSE YOU WENT ON AND SAID, I WOULD LIKE YOU YOUR ASSURANCE THAT YOU WILL CEASE AND DESIST FROM THIS BEHAVIOR, AND I WILL TELL YOU, ANY LAWYER WILL TELL YOU, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY LAWYERS, I TOLD YOU GUYS THIS BEFORE, I WORK WITH HIGH POWER LAWYERS. ANY LAWYER IS GOING TO TELL YOU YOU DO NOT RESPOND YES OR NO TO THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO A YES OR NO. THERE IS NO CEASE OR DESIST FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T DO THIS STUFF. SO THERE IS NO YES OR NO. I COULD NOT RESPOND TO YOU. THE ONLY WAY I COULD RESPOND TO YOU IS YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE AS VALID AS THE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS WERE. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I CAN'T SAY YES OR NO BECAUSE YOU SAID I WOULD LIKE. PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME. YOU GUYS KEEP INTERRUPTING ME, AND YOU GUYS SIT HERE. YOU GUYS COMPLAIN ABOUT ME AND THEN YOU GUYS DO IT. SO IF I COULD JUST FINISH BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FINISH HER SENTENCE, I WOULD LIKE YOUR ASSURANCE THAT YOU WILL CEASE AND DESIST WITH THIS BEHAVIOR AND HONOR THE CODE OF ETHICS. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY TO THAT. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT. THERE'S NO YES OR NO. YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN? YOU DIDN'T SEE ME DO ANYTHING. YOU HAVE NO PROOF, AND IT IS JUST LIKE THE SIX TEC COMPLAINTS, AND IF THIS BOARD IS GOING TO SIT HERE AND UTILIZE THIS BOARD AND THIS TIME AT 12:37 AT NIGHT TO ACCUSE ME OF STUFF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND THEN TRY TO PUT ME THROUGH TRAINING OR SOMETHING THAT FOR SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO AND DOESN'T. THERE'S NO EVEN PROOF. YEAH, I DON'T SEE ANY PROOF HERE. I SEE A DENIAL. I ALSO SEE I THINK THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE AT THIS DAIS WHO HAVE EVER HELD A SECURITY CLEARANCE. ONLY ONE PERSON WHO CURRENTLY HOLDS A SECURITY CLEARANCE, AND THE IDEA THAT PERSON THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ORDER THAT PERSON TO TRAINING, I THINK YOU'RE FLIRTING WITH OFFICIAL OPPRESSION AND ABUSE OF OFFICE. I THINK, LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY CLEAR THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, JUST AN ACCUSATION AND A COPY AND PASTE OF THE PENAL CODE AND DR. BONE, THE MONTH PRIOR TO THIS SEPTEMBER WAS AUGUST. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME ON THE AGENDA TWICE IN AUGUST TO BE CENSURED? NOT RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND. IT'S SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO THE CONTEXT UNDER WHICH THE EMAIL WAS RECEIVED AND WHY IT WAS GOT THE RESPONSE THAT IT DID. AND THIS IS THE CONTEXT YOU GUYS WANT TO PUT PEOPLE THROUGH. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, TRUSTEE WESTON, BUT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE AND I REALLY LOVE THAT YOU GUYS KEEP DEMONSTRATING BECAUSE HOPEFULLY TEA IS OVER THERE LISTENING THAT THIS IS NOT IN GOOD FAITH, THIS IS CONTEXT, THIS IS CONTEXT, AND TO PUT IT OFF UNTIL JANUARY AND BE LIKE, OH, THE CONTEXT BACK THEN DOESN'T MATTER. THAT SHOWS BAD FAITH. YOU ALL ARE PUTTING ME RIGHT NOW UNDER A MICROSCOPE FOR FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ME DURING A CONTEXT TIME WHEN THE SAME PERSON IS THROWING ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE ALL FALSE. EVEN PROVEN BY A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. FALSE. FALSE. FALSE, FALSE, FALSE. COSTING ME MONEY, AND NOW YOU'RE PUTTING MY NAME ON AN AGENDA TO SMEAR MY NAME IN PUBLIC. [04:55:06] IT'S OFFICIAL OPPRESSION [INAUDIBLE] NO, VALERIE, REMEMBER, YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY KIND OF ADVICE OUT HERE. I SAID I WON'T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE. I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU. YOU'VE BEEN GOING ON A WHILE. I DO WANT TO JUST SAY IN THE HOPES OF TRYING TO MAKE SOME RESOLUTION HERE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT SPINNING OUR WHEELS. [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU INTERRUPTED OUR ATTORNEY. CAN YOU PLEASE ALLOW HER TO FINISH, TRUSTEE BONE? TRUSTEE BONE, CAN YOU PLEASE ALLOW. I ACTUALLY SEE WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY THE FLOOR AND THEN YOU TAKE IT BACK, YOU ACTUALLY HAD GIVEN THEM THE FLOOR IN GOOD FAITH. SO MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD WATCH THE MEETINGS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, LIKE I HAVE THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, I'VE TAKEN THE FLOOR. I'M SAYING MY PIECE, AND THEN WHEN SOMEBODY INTERRUPTS YOU AND YOU STOP, YOU'VE GIVEN THEM THE FLOOR IN COURTESY. NOW, WHEN YOU TAKE THAT BACK BECAUSE YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU'RE NOT INTERRUPTING THEM. THAT'S CALLED A CONVERSATION, INTERRUPTING SOMEBODY WHEN THEY HAVE THE FLOOR AND YOU INTERRUPT THEM. I HAD THE FLOOR AND VALERIE EVEN ADMITTED THAT SHE INTERRUPTED ME, AND SO YOU WERE JUST SAYING THAT YOU INTERRUPTED ME BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET TO A RESOLUTION, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, VALERIE, HOW IS THERE A RESOLUTION TO ANYTHING WHERE I HAVE BEEN FALSELY ACCUSED? I DO REPLY. I MEAN, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU RESOLVE THAT? I MEAN, HAVE YOU SEEN WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? MAY I SPEAK NOW? I GIVE THE FLOOR AWAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THIS BOARD HERE IS IN GOOD FAITH TRYING TO YOU ALL ADOPTED YOUR BORDER OPERATING PROCEDURES. YOU'RE IN GOOD FAITH, I BELIEVE, TRYING TO FOLLOW YOUR RULES HERE AND YOUR PROCESSES, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. SUPPOSED TO DO THE G(1)(A) THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH EMAIL COMMUNICATION THAT OCCURRED. WE'RE HERE ON G(1)(B) RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT'S OCCURRING. THIS IS REQUESTED TO BE AN OPEN TO BE HELD IN OPEN. I KNOW THERE WAS CONVERSATION OR STATEMENT INDICATED RIGHT NOW THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S OUT IN THE PUBLIC. IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. YOU KNOW IT WAS SET FOR CLOSED. BY LAW, A TRUSTEE CAN HAVE THAT RIGHT. THAT IS WHY WE'RE IN OPEN TODAY. WE SAID THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS, AND SO I DON'T WANT ANY BOARD MEMBER TO FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU DO THIS PROCESS THAT YOU ALL ESTABLISHED THAT IT'S AN ATTACK. IT WILL FEEL THAT WAY, I'M SURE, FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS, BUT ONE, YOU CAN DO IT AND CLOSE IT IS YOUR RIGHT AS A BOARD MEMBER AS YOU ALL INDICATED, AND TWO THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. POINT. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. WAS THAT AN INTERRUPTION? I'M ASKING. I'M POLITELY ASKING IF I CAN PAUSE. GO AHEAD. BECAUSE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID, AND I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE JUST DON'T FOLLOW ALONG, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS IN GOOD FAITH. I HAVE THE EMAILS FROM AMBER FELLER WHERE MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE SOME CONTEXT AROUND THAT. THERE'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION GOING ON ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED, AND AMBER, WHEN I'M TRYING TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AMBER AS BOARD PRESIDENT STARTS ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION PER THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. WELL, THEN I'M LIKE, WELL, I DIDN'T GET THIS INFORMATION, AND I SAY, WELL, AMBER, I DIDN'T GET THIS INFORMATION AND MY NAME'S ON THE AGENDA, AND I SAID, PLEASE PROVIDE ME THAT PROOF THAT YOU GOT THAT INFORMATION. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT--YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME. YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME, AND SO I'M TALKING--YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST OTHER TRUSTEES UNLESS THEY HAVE AGREED TO HAVE IT BEING HEARD IN OPEN. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE I'M NOT TALKING I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC GRIEVANCE TONIGHT AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA, AND YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE AGENDA, AND I'M NOT TALKING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE DID NOT FOLLOW THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. THE BOARD. I'LL JUST SAY THE BOARD THEN. THE BOARD DID NOT FOLLOW THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TONIGHT. I HAVE SAID THIS AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. I DID NOT KNOW WHEN I WAS COMING IN HERE TONIGHT WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT, AND THEN I HAVE HEARD THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO MAGICALLY HAVE GONE BACK AND SEARCHED MY EMAIL AND SOMEHOW MAGICALLY FOUND IT, AND I CAN AND I WILL. I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE OTHER TRUSTEES SITTING ON THIS DAIS TONIGHT WOULDN'T EVEN GO THROUGH AN EMAIL STRING TO FIND THE SAME INFORMATION AND MUCH LESS. I WAS EXPECTED TO GO BACK TO SEPTEMBER AND FIND SOME EMAIL IN OUR EMAIL BOX THAT I LITERALLY HAVE THOUSANDS OF EMAILS IN. SO NO, VALERIE, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WAS FOLLOWED PROPERLY TONIGHT. I HAVE EMAILS PRIOR TO THIS TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND IT WENT ON TONIGHT. SHE COULD NOT PROVIDE ME THE PROOF. [05:00:02] SHE CAN'T SHOW THAT. SHE WOULD NOT. COULD NOT. I DON'T KNOW. SO, NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED. I WAS NOT EVEN TOLD WHAT TONIGHT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT. TRUSTEE BONE, IF YOU READ THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, IT DOES NOT SAY THAT THE PERSON WHO THE COMPLAINT IS AGAINST IS SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDED WHAT THE POLICY IS WHEN THEY NOTIFY THE BOARD PRESIDENT. TRUSTEE WEIR NOTIFIED YOU IN HER ORIGINAL EMAIL SHE FELT LIKE YOU HAD VIOLATED BBF AND THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL EMAIL. IN OCTOBER 3RD, SHE FOLLOWED STEP TWO OF NOTIFYING THE BOARD PRESIDENT SHE WANTED AN AGENDA REQUEST. THE THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS YOUR REQUEST TO PLACE THIS SAME TYPE PROCESS ON THE AGENDA. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT POLICY YOU THINK I HAVE VIOLATED, AND I'M DOING THE SAME EXACT THING WITH YOU THAT I DID WITH TRUSTEE WEIR. SO THE BOARD POLICY HAS BEEN FOLLOWED, AND NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT NOTIFICATION TO PLACE AN AGENDA REQUEST HAS TO BE NOTIFIED TO THE PERSON WHO THINKS THE OFFENSE HAS BEEN OCCURRED. YOU WERE ALREADY NOTIFIED BY TRUSTEE WEIR WITH THE POLICY THAT SHE FELT THAT YOU YOU VIOLATED. ANY LEGAL POLICY, ANYBODY, IF WE WENT IN FRONT OF A JUDGE SAID, YEAH, SHE HAD NO IDEA WHAT SHE WAS THERE FOR. THAT'S NOT IN GOOD FAITH. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOOD FAITH, AND I HAVE THE EMAILS TO SHOW THAT AND AMBER JUST ADMITTED IT YET AGAIN, THAT TONIGHT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WOULD NOT BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT I WAS COMING UP HERE FOR. THAT'S NOT TRUE. I HAVE TO SAY, GUYS, I'VE TOLD YOU, I'VE EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF. WHERE I'VE COME IN HERE EXPECTING THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO CENSURE ME FOR. TO ME, THIS WAS SO OBVIOUS, AND THEN I GET IN HERE AND IT'S THIS OVER HERE. I'VE EXPERIENCED IT. I'VE LIVED IT. AMY, I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. IT IS SO OBVIOUS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, AND SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS BECAUSE AND SPEAKING OF BAD FAITH, LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT THE DRAFT AGENDA SAID. THE DRAFT AGENDA DID NOT SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, G(1)(B), POSSIBLE C OR WHATEVER IT SAYS. THE DRAFT AGENDA. THE FIRST INDICATION THAT MARY HAD IS THAT AS REQUESTED BY TRUSTEE WEIR, WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE CENSURE OF TRUSTEE BONE. THAT IS WHAT SHE GOT. YOU NEED TO PAUSE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HER OVER TIME. YOU CANNOT JUST LOOK AT THIS IN ISOLATION. HER RESPONSE IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT SHE HAS ENDURED OVER A PERIOD OF 16 TO 18 MONTHS. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SIT THERE AND CLUB A BABY SEAL AND THEN SAY, WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T CRY SO LOUD. I'M REALLY GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO REFLECT, AND I WILL SAY I'M GLAD THIS IS DONE IN OPEN SESSION. I THINK CREATING A RECORD OF THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. I'M GOING TO REITERATE THIS PERSON WHO SENT THE EMAIL OFFERS NO PROOF OF ANYTHING THAT AMY HAS ACCUSED OR ASKED MARY ABOUT. NO PROOF. THERE'S NO PROOF. IT'S A FISTFUL OF AIR, BUT DESPITE THAT, I READ MARY'S DENIAL VERY CLEARLY, AS I SAID EARLIER, AND I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD DOWN THIS PROCESS AND TRY TO ORDER HER TO DO TRAINING OR WHATEVER YOU ARE FLIRTING WITH--I'M SAYING THIS ON THE RECORD, YOU GUYS--YOU'RE FLIRTING WITH CHAPTER 39, AND I'M GOING TO SPECIFICALLY SAY 39.02 AND 39.03, WHICH PUTS ROUND ROCK ISD RESOURCES AT RISK, AND WITH THAT, I MOVE TO END THE CONVERSATION ON THIS ITEM AND ADJOURN. I SECOND THAT. I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. WHAT IS YOUR SUBSTITUTE MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD REQUIRE DR. TRUSTEE MARY BONE TO ATTEND TRAINING ON ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION IN CLOSED SESSION AND ISSUE A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND FOR HER INABILITY TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN. SECOND. VALERIE, HELP ME OUT HERE WITH A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THE FIRST MOTION GOES AWAY COMPLETELY? THEY NEED TO VOTE ON THE ONE THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY DONE. [05:05:01] SO VOTE ON WHETHER EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THE MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE FIRST AND THEN THAT WILL BE THE MOTION THAT GOES FORWARD, WHETHER YOU WANT IT TO BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU RESTATE THAT? I HEARD THE TRAINING, BUT WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART? A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND FOR INABILITY TO ANSWER OR ADDRESS THE CONCERNS. THAT WAS ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IS THAT ALLOWED? AMENDMENT. I FEEL LIKE IT IS FUTILE TO ASK FOR SUPPLEMENTAL TRAINING. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT PROCEDURE WAS NOT FOLLOWED. I DO THINK THAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO PURSUE THE NEW PROCEDURE THAT WAS BEAUTIFULLY DONE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WERE MET WITH A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE. SO MOVE REMOVING THE TRAINING. I WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT? CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT AS WELL? I JUST WANT TO ADD TO YOURS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THAT PROCEDURE WASN'T FOLLOWED. CAN YOU READ YOURS AGAIN BUT WITH THE VERBAL REPRIMAND? I SHOULD WRITE IT DOWN. YOU GUYS, WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE MAIN AND UP TO TWO SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS BE ON THE FLOOR AT ONE TIME. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE THOSE TWO ALREADY. IF I WITHDRAW MINE, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE? I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION. YES, BUT I MAY NEED HELP WITH THE LANGUAGE. I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. [INAUDIBLE] TO ADD IN THAT IT'S BECAUSE THE NEW BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WASN'T FOLLOWED. I THINK YOU JUST SAID THAT SHE DIDN'T RESPOND ACCORDING TO BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. COULD WE CLARIFY WHO SHE AND THEY ARE? I CAN'T SEE WHO YOU'RE POINTING OUT AND STUFF UP HERE. SO MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO ISSUE A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND FOR TRUSTEE BONE FOR HER REFUSAL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OR ADDRESS THE CONCERNS PER THE NEW BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. SO YOU'RE NOT MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? NO, SHE DID THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO THEN ALL WE HAVE IS JUST ONE MOTION PENDING AT THIS TIME? OKAY, I THINK I MISSED HERS? WELL, I THINK MINE WAS JUST TO ADD THAT ON. SO I'LL WITHDRAW MINE. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TRUSTEE WEIR [INAUDIBLE] ONE MORE TIME. I'M TRYING TO WRITE THESE DOWN. MICROPHONE. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ISSUE. A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND TO TRUSTEE BONE FOR HER REFUSAL TO ANSWER, QUESTION OR ADDRESS THE CONCERNS RAISED THIS EVENING FOR THE NEW BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SUBSTITUTE MOTION. [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, JUST A SECOND, I'M SPEAKING. JUST UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WE VOTE ON THAT MOTION AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE ON, SO IF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION PASSES, THEN IT'S GOING TO DO AWAY WITH YOUR ORIGINAL PRIOR MOTION BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTITUTE. IT'S TOTALLY SUBSTITUTING THE ORIGINAL. SO WE DON'T GO BACK TO THE SECOND--NOT IF THE BOARD APPROVES THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IF THAT MOTION FAILS, YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. IF THE MOTION TO AGREE TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILS, YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. TRUSTEE WESTON, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON. YEAH, I'M MAKING A STATEMENT. I'M GLAD THAT THIS HAPPENED IN OPEN SESSION TO CREATE A RECORD OF ANOTHER KANGAROO COURT. [05:10:07] THERE IS NO THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY TRUSTEE WEIR OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT DR. BONE IMPROPERLY SHARED ANYTHING TO ANYBODY. NO EVIDENCE OF THAT EXISTS. THERE IS A CLEAR DENIAL IN TRUSTEE BONE'S REPLY TO TRUSTEE WEIR VIA EMAIL THERE'S A CLEAR DENIAL OF ANY WRONGDOING. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE BOARD IS LIKELY VIOLATING CHAPTER 39 OF THE PENAL CODE, SPECIFICALLY 39.02 AND 39.03, WHICH PUTS ROUND ROCK ISD RESOURCES AT RISK. TEA SHOULD NOTE TONIGHT'S EVENTS, AND LASTLY, THIS MOVE, IF IT PASSES, DEMONSTRATES BAD FAITH HEADING INTO A SCHEDULED TEAM OF EIGHT, TEAM BUILDING SCHEDULED THAT IS JUST WEEKS AWAY. I BELIEVE THAT NO STUDENT HAS BEEN SERVED TONIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT NO STAFF MEMBER HAS BEEN SERVED TONIGHT. IN FACT, I THINK ALL THIS HAS DONE IS FURTHER DIVIDE AND FURTHER TEAR APART A COMMUNITY THAT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF REUNIFICATION AND COMING TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN, BUT IF THIS PASSES, THIS BOARD IS SENDING A MESSAGE THAT IT IS DOUBLING DOWN ON THE HARASSMENT AND ONGOING INTIMIDATION OF TRUSTEE BONE. I WILL BE VOTING NO. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM TRUSTEES? YEAH, I'VE MY LIGHT ON. YES. SO WE SIT AT THIS DAIS AND WE TAKE AN OATH, AND WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW LAWS AND POLICIES, AND THERE WAS A MOTION JUST MADE SAYING THAT I WASN'T FOLLOWING BOARD POLICY , BUT IF YOU ALL THE BOARD POLICY IS ONLINE, YOU ALL SHOULD OPEN IT UP BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY FOLLOWED BOARD POLICY, AND FOR THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY STATE THAT I'M NOT FOLLOWING BOARD POLICY. I AGREE, TRUSTEE WESTON, IT JEOPARDIZES THIS BOARD. THE BOARD POLICY STATES THAT THE CONCERNED TRUSTEE IS ENCOURAGED TO HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER TRUSTEE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. IF THE CONCERNED TRUSTEE DOES NOT WISH TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE IN-PERSON, HE OR SHE MUST NOTIFY THE OTHER TRUSTEE OF HIS OR HER CONCERNS VIA EMAIL BEFORE ESCALATING THE MATTER. THAT HAPPENED. OH, AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S A PERIOD. LET ME READ THIS. HE OR SHE MUST NOTIFY THE OTHER TRUSTEE OF HIS OR HER CONCERNS BY EMAIL BEFORE ESCALATING THE MATTER. PERIOD. PERIOD. THERE IS NO OBLIGATION FROM ANY TRUSTEE. YOU GUYS DID AMAZING WORK, BUT YOU GUYS PUT NO OBLIGATION. I FOLLOWED BOARD POLICY. I ACTUALLY WAS KIND. I ACTUALLY RESPONDED. PER BOARD POLICY, I DID NOT HAVE TO RESPOND. WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IN BOARD POLICY. IF THE CONCERN TRUSTEE DOES NOT WISH TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE IN-PERSON, HE OR SHE MUST NOTIFY THE OTHER TRUSTEE OF HIS OR HER CONCERNS VIA EMAIL BEFORE ESCALATING THE MATTER. PERIOD. PERIOD. IT IS NOT IN BOARD POLICY THAT THE TRUSTEE HAS TO RESPOND. THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. YOU ALL ARE MAKING THIS UP. YOU CAN'T MAKE UP LAWS OR POLICY AND PUT ME UNDER LAWS AND POLICY OR ANY OTHER TRUSTEE. JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT THIS SO BADLY. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. THERE'S A PERIOD AND THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? IN BOARD POLICY, IT GOES TO STEP B. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT. I'M HERE, AND ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING THAT I HAVE TO PARTICIPATE OR ANYTHING. IT JUST SAYS THAT IF THE CONCERN TRUSTEE IS NOT SATISFIED, HE OR SHE MAY REQUEST THE BOARD PRESIDENT ADD THE MATTER TO AN UPCOMING AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION. IF THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS INVOLVED, BLAH, BLAH BLAH AND TALKS ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION, AND IT SAYS THE TRUSTEE WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION, MAY REQUEST THE DISCUSSION BE HELD IN OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AGAIN, I HAVE NOT BROKEN ANY PART OF THAT POLICY. I EXERCISE MY RIGHT THAT YOU GUYS ADDED. THANK YOU, BUT THAT'S ALSO LAW AND LAW TRUMPS POLICY. SO I HAD THAT RIGHT, EVEN IF YOU WOULD HAVE ADDED THAT TO YOUR POLICY. SEE IF THE MATTER IS STILL NOT RESOLVED, THE BOARD MAY PROCEED WITH A MAJORITY VOTE IN OPEN SESSION WITH THE OPTIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, AND IT GOES THROUGH YOUR OPTIONS IF THE MATTER IS STILL NOT RESOLVED. YOU ALL HAVE STILL TONIGHT NOT BEEN ABLE TO ARTICULATE AND EVEN IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU HAVE ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, YOU DID NOT ARTICULATE. YOU JUST SAID I BROKE BOARD POLICY, BUT I DID NOT THE BOARD POLICY BY ME NOT RESPONDING OR I ACTUALLY DID RESPOND. [05:15:06] I JUST DIDN'T RESPOND TO AMY'S LIKING, WHICH ACTUALLY CAME OUT IN HER ORIGINAL MOTION. SO THOSE WORDS THAT WE SAY OUT LOUD AND ARE IMPORTANT, AMY'S ORIGINAL MOTION WAS, YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T "SUFFICIENTLY" RESPOND. IT DOESN'T EVEN SAY I HAVE TO RESPOND. SO YOU GUYS HAVE A FALSE MOTION RIGHT NOW ON THE FLOOR. I FOLLOWED ALL BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, AND THIS ISN'T A YES OR NO. OR WE GET TO DECIDE IF YOU FOLLOW BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. IT'S WRITTEN IN WORDS IN BLACK AND WHITE ON PAPER, AND IF A BOARD JUST LIKE IF A STUDENT, THERE ARE THE OPTIONS FOR ME TO GO ABOVE THIS BOARD. WHEN YOU ALL VIOLATE YOUR OWN OPERATING PROCEDURE TO JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, YOU ALL ARE NOT THE FINAL SAY AND YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO DO THIS. JUST FOLLOW THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. THAT'S WHAT I DO. GO AND READ IT, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE THE VOTE, ALICIA, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD ABOUT THIS ANY TIME PRIOR TO THIS, EVEN PRIOR TO BEING A TRUSTEE? ABOUT THIS ISSUE? NO. SAME THING FOR YOU, TRUSTEE ZARATE. NOPE. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THIS TONIGHT, IT DID BRING OUT, TRUSTEE WESTON SAID TWO THINGS. THIS ACTUALLY EXPOSED TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE OF THEM IS THE ZIP FILE THAT WE WERE FORWARDED ACTUALLY SHOWS A WALKING QUORUM. IT ACTUALLY SHOWS. YES, IT DOES. IT SHOWS THAT THE WHOLE BOARD, EXCEPT DANIEL AND I WERE ASKED IF WE HAD TALKED TO KEITH HENDRICKSON. I WAS NEVER ASKED, AND I ALREADY TOLD YOU, TONIGHT IS MY FIRST TIME LEARNING ABOUT THIS. OKAY, WELL, AMY, EVEN IF YOU ASKED TRUSTEES AFTER THEY GOT OFF THE BOARD, IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT TEA THINKS ABOUT THAT , BECAUSE THAT IS A WALKING QUORUM. THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE LAW. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE, AND SORRY IF I BROKE SOMETHING THERE THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IT EXPOSED IS THAT WHAT YOU ACCUSE ME OF WAS NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT GRIEVANCE. SO YOU AGAIN, HEY, TEA, LISTEN UP, GO GET THESE EMAILS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY STATE THAT THEY WERE IN A MEETING TALKING ABOUT CONTENT THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GRIEVANCE. THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT THAT GRIEVANCE. I MEAN, THE TWO SUBJECTS ARE FAR APART. SO, YET AGAIN BY YOU ALL GOING AFTER THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS DO OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU GO AFTER DANIELLE AND I, AND ALL YOU DO IS YOU EXPOSE MORE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T BE DOING, AND AGAIN, GO READ THE BOARD POLICY BECAUSE YOUR MOTION IS FALSE. YEAH, I JUST NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, PLEASE. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I GO BACK TO WHAT VALERIE SAID EARLIER IS THIS IS US FOLLOWING OUR POLICY. WE MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO EMAIL SOMEBODY BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING. I DID, AND I THINK WE'VE EMAILED BACK AND FORTH PROBABLY 20 TIMES, MARY. YOU'RE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT I SAID, SO YOU'VE REQUESTED TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP. THAT'S FINE. I'M PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU REQUESTED AND THAT'S WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS. I THINK THAT THIS IS A FRUITFUL ADVENTURE. IF WE ENTER THIS AS A BOARD TRYING TO LEARN FROM THIS ADVENTURE. THIS WAS NOT A FRUITFUL ADVENTURE. IF YOU JUST COME IN HERE TRYING TO DEFLECT AND NOT LEARN. I WILL TELL YOU I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MOTION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT TRUSTEE WEIR BROUGHT TO ME IN HER ORIGINAL CONCERN. IT WAS ORIGINAL CONCERN WAS SHARING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, AND THIS IS NOT WHAT THE MOTION IS ABOUT. SO I DO HAVE A PROBLEM ISSUING A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND WHEN REALLY, IF THAT'S A CONCERN, YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT BACK AND DISCUSS THAT AS AN ISSUE OF G(1)(A). SO, I WILL BE VOTING NO JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE ORIGINAL REQUEST. I STAND BEHIND EVERY DECISION AND EVERY EMAIL THAT I SENT. YOU KNOW, I JUST FOUND A COUPLE OF OTHER EMAILS ON JANUARY 11TH WHERE I TOLD YOU AGAIN WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS RELATED TO TRUSTEE BONE, AND I FOUND A REPLY FROM YOU AND IT SAYS THANK YOU, I OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS THE SAME ISSUE THAT STARTED LAST YEAR IN SEPTEMBER. [05:20:04] SO YOU DID KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT COMING IN. I HAVE FOUND AT LEAST FIVE EMAILS THAT I'VE HAD WITH YOU OVER THE COURSE OF THIS. I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS OF YOU TO COME IN HERE AND SAY YOU HAD NO IDEA WHEN THE EMAIL CHAINS ON NOVEMBER 28TH, YOU HAD EMAILS IN SEPTEMBER, YOU HAD EMAILS IN OCTOBER, YOU HAD EMAILS IN NOVEMBER, AND YOU HAD EMAILS JANUARY 11TH AND JANUARY 18TH ALL ABOUT THIS TOPIC. SO I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS. IT'S JUST MY OPINION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME, BUT I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS FOR YOU TO COME IN HERE AND SAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT, BUT YOU KNEW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, AND ON JANUARY 11TH, YOU SAID, OH, IT'S THE SAME ISSUE THAT STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. SO ANYWAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. CAN I JUST ASK, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT BEEN PARTY TO ANY OF THIS, WASN'T IN THE MEETING OR ANYTHING? SO WAS THE ORIGINAL COMPLAINT ABOUT SHARING INFORMATION OR WAS IT ABOUT THE RESPONSE? IT WAS ABOUT SHARING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. THANKS. THAT WAS WHAT THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO ME ON OCTOBER THE THIRD, THAT SHE HAD AN AGENDA REQUEST FOR A VIOLATION OF BBF FOR SHARING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, AND CAN YOU REREAD THE MOTION, PLEASE? ISSUE A FORMAL VERBAL REPRIMAND FOR DR. BONE, FOR REFUSAL TO ANSWER AND ADDRESS CONCERNS PER BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, AND I DO WANT TO ADDRESS BECAUSE YOU JUST STATED, TRUSTEE BONE, YOU KNEW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT. AFTER JANUARY 11TH, THE AGENDA CHANGED. THE WORDING CHANGED. THE WORDING, BUT NOT THE ITEM. YOU NEVER SAID DID THIS CHANGE? I DID. [INAUDIBLE] ON JANUARY 17TH, I ALSO SAID THIS AGENDA IS RELATED TO THAT. SO I HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES I HAVE COMMUNICATED AND TOLD YOU WHAT THIS IS, AND AGAIN, ON JANUARY 11TH, I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT AMY DIRECTLY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, AS I DO NOT WANT ANY TOMA CONCERNS. SO MULTIPLE TIMES I HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT IT'S RELATED TO AN ISSUE OF CONFIDENTIALITY BEING RELEASED FROM CLOSED SESSION. PLEASE CONTACT, AMY. MULTIPLE TIMES, AND YOU NEVER CONTACTED AMY? THAT'S NOT OUR BOARD POLICY. OUR BOARD POLICY IS NOT THAT I CONTACT AMY TO GET WHAT SHE SENT YOU. THE BOARD POLICY FOR B TO GO FORWARD IS THAT AMY HAD TO SEND IT TO YOU. SHE DID. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU, AND I WAS NOT ASKING, AND I RESPONDED TO THAT REQUEST, AND YOU TOLD ME TO YOU NEVER GAVE ME [INAUDIBLE] NOVEMBER THE 28TH. [INAUDIBLE] AND THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT YOU ALL IS BECAUSE WHAT'S COMING UP RIGHT NOW IS THAT JUST WHAT AMBER SAID, IS THAT, THE MOTION NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE WE INITIALLY STARTED, BUT MARY, WHO THIS IS ABOUT, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH, EVEN THOUGH I ASKED AND ASKED AND ASKED. THIS IS DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE SHE JUST READ AN EMAIL THAT SAID THAT YOU DID KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT VALERIE, I DO NEED LEGAL ADVICE NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION [INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE HARRISON WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF SPEAKING, DR. BONE. THAT WAS NOT A CONVERSATION. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO--WELL, DOES THAT MEAN TAKE FROM THE TABLE PERMANENTLY? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE THE CURRENT DISCUSSION UNTIL WE CAN GET FURTHER LEGAL ADVICE. NOT TONIGHT. IT'S LATE. [INAUDIBLE] IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO MARCH BECAUSE AMY IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN FEBRUARY. SURE. OKAY, I WITHDRAW MY LAST MOTION. I MOVE TO TABLE THE CURRENT DISCUSSION UNTIL THE MARCH BOARD MEETING, AT WHICH POINT WE WILL NEED TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE. ALL RIGHT, TABLE/POSTPONE. THEY'RE USUALLY USE INTERCHANGEABLY, BUT THE FORMAL ONE IS TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO, FINE, IT'S POSTPONED TO. THAT'S STATED. YES. DO YOU NEED ME TO RESTATE THAT? NO, THAT'S OKAY. SECOND. SO IS THIS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YES. SO IT TRUMPS IT BECAUSE IT'S A TABLING. SO JUST, BUT THE OTHER MOTIONS, BOTH OTHER MOTIONS ARE STILL ON THE TABLE UNTIL WE COME BACK. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE MARCH BOARD MEETING SO THAT WE CAN RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE. GO AHEAD. I AM JUST REALLY HURTING FOR OUR STUDENTS, RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE 47,000 SOULS, 6500 EMPLOYEES WHO I BELIEVE DESERVE OUR FULL FOCUS, OUR FULL ATTENTION. WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING HERE, I THINK IS COUNTER TO THEIR BEST INTERESTS AND DOES NOT SERVE OUR CHILDREN, OF WHOM I HAVE CHILDREN IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND SOME OF YOU DO AS WELL, AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE IS COUNTER [05:25:02] TO LIVING UP TO THE MISSION AND THE VISION OF THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 5-2. WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA. IT IS 1:09 A.M, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.