Jan 12, 2023 Called Board Meetings

SINCE WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT STUFF AND THERE'S EVERYBODY HERE.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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I HEREBY CALL THE MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES CALLED BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

PLEDGE].

OKAY. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I THINK WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT I DON'T SEE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER HERE.

TRUSTEES. WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE ROOM.

SO TYPICALLY WE WOULD MOVE ON.

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR SCHEDULING ISSUES.

WE HAVE ONE OF OUR PARTICIPANTS FOR OUR FIRST TWO GRIEVANCES RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE, AND WE'LL NOT BE HERE TILL ABOUT 6:00.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

WE CAN EITHER ASK OUR GRIEVANT FOR AGENDA ITEM D2 IF THEY WANT TO GO FIRST, OR WE CAN ASK WE CAN JUST TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 6:00.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON THAT FROM THE BOARD? GO AHEAD. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL 6 TO START.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND GO AND GET THESE DONE RATHER THAN BEING HERE ALL NIGHT, I WOULD PREFER THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM? YEAH. I HAD WORKED REALLY HARD, MAKE MULTIPLE COMMUNICATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK THIS OUT BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THAT ONE.

I TOLD THEM I WAS FLEXIBLE.

I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT THIS IS WHAT WAS MY PLAN.

BUT I UNDERSTAND LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES.

BE ADVISED I WILL BE LEAVING.

SO I GUESS YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE.

YOU JUST WOULD NEED TO CALL ME TO COME BACK TO HEAR.

WE DO HAVE TRUSTEES THAT ARE ACTUALLY RECUSING THEMSELVES FOR ALL OF OUR GRIEVANCES TONIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE CASE WHATEVER ORDER WE WENT IN.

SO I DON'T SOMEBODY I GOT ONE FOR EACH SIDE.

I NEED A LITTLE MORE ADVICE FROM TRUSTEES.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A RECESS OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? LET'S WHY DON'T WE ASK IF WE CAN FLIP FLOP THE ORDER AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN.

WHAT IF WE CAN GO WITH THE SECOND GRIEVANT FIRST? OKAY. I KNOW THAT'S INCONVENIENT FOR TRUSTEE WEST, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

LET'S TAKE A QUICK RECESS.

WITHOUT HIS LAWYER. LET'S TAKE A QUICK RECESS AND WE'LL ASK THE SECOND GRIEVANT IF THEY'RE READY.

IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN WE WILL TAKE A RECESS UNTIL ALL PARTIES FOR GRIEVANT FOR ITEM D1 HAVE ARRIVED.

SO DO WE HAVE OUR SPEAKER YET? YES, OUR SPEAKER IS HERE.

BUT LET'S HANDLE THIS.

SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS. LET'S TAKE A QUICK JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTE RECESS WHILE WE CONFIRM IF THE SCHEDULE IS GOING TO CHANGE OR NOT.

IT IS 5:34 AND WE ARE IN RECESS.

IT IS 5:39.

WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

[C. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY]

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER, THEN I'M GOING TO READ US INTO CLOSED.

AND THEN WHEN ALL PARTIES ARRIVE FOR ITEM D1, THEN WE'LL JUST GET STARTED STRAIGHT FROM CLOSED SESSION SO WE WON'T BE COMING BACK INTO OPEN TO READ US.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ OUR SPEECH ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS AT EACH BOARD MEETING.

THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

WE ASK THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.

SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES.

THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS.

AS A SECOND REMINDER, THE BOARD ALSO ADOPTED AN ANTI HATE RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 20TH, 2022, WHERE THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELLBEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON.

PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED PER SE.

TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13 42.1 42.2 AND 42.05.

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NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON.

THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

IF, AFTER AT LEAST ONE MORE ONE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ANY INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.

THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN 2 MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE WILL WEIR WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER.

OUR ONLY SPEAKER TONIGHT IS JEREMY STORY SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM D1 AND D2.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

YES, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN PRIVATE SESSION AND TO SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE AN OPEN SESSION.

ONE OF THE GRIEVANCES SHOULD DEFINITELY BE DONE IN OPEN SESSION AND NOT IN PRIVATE SESSION.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE REHASHING A GRIEVANCE THAT MANY OF YOU WALKED OUT ON.

FOR SOME REASON, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN WITH VERY LIMITED NOTICE WHEN THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL GRIEVANCE FILED TO BE CONSIDERED TONIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN IS NOW OKAY TO HEAR IT, WHEREAS BEFORE YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO HEAR IT AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WILL HEAR IT ALSO TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN URGENT TO HEAR IT.

AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF WAITING, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S BECOME URGENT TO REDO IT.

WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE REDONE IT AT ANY MONTH PRIOR TO THAT? IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT, MRS. WEIR, THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO GET ON WITH THESE THINGS TONIGHT.

WHEN I HAVE HAD TO WAIT OVER A YEAR AND A HALF FOR A GRIEVANCE THAT BY LAW SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER 90 DAYS.

SO THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE UNLESS YOU ARE UNLAWFULLY TARGETING ME AND TREATING ME DIFFERENTLY BY YOUR USING DIFFERENT RULES FOR ME THAN FOR OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT FAVORABLY DISPOSED TO ME.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS INDICATED AGAIN TONIGHT BY THIS BOARD, AT LEAST BY YOUR WORDS, MRS. WEIR, THAT BASICALLY IT'S OKAY TO DELAY ME.

BUT EVERYBODY ELSE, FOR EXAMPLE, MR. CHARLES, WHO FILED HIS GRIEVANCE FAIRLY RECENTLY, INSTANTLY GETS A HEARING.

WHEREAS ME, I FILED MY AUGUST OF 2021 AND HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY RECUSED YOURSELF DURING A PRIOR MEETING.

SO THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

IT IS INAPPROPRIATE BOARD BEHAVIOR ALSO TEA GO OVER THERE.

I SAW THAT IN ONE OF YOUR PREVIOUS REPORTS, YOU SAID THEY WERE HANDLING THESE GRIEVANCES.

WELL, NO, THEY DID NOT HANDLE MY GRIEVANCE WELL.

THEY WALKED OUT ON MY GRIEVANCE INAPPROPRIATELY, EVEN THOUGH STATE LAW SAYS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HEAR IT, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ACT ON IT, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HEAR IT.

LAST TIME I CHECKED, DECLARING THAT YOU'RE RECUSING YOURSELF AND THAT THERE IS NO QUORUM IS NOT HEARING A GRIEVANCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT MANY TIMES BEFORE THERE WAS EVEN A LAWSUIT PRESENT.

AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE DELAYED IS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ACT AND THEREFORE THE LAWSUIT OCCURRED.

SO THEY DID NOT MR. TEA OVER THERE.

THEY DID NOT IN ANY WAY DO THIS APPROPRIATELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKING.

I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

YES. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? MADAM CHAIR, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WHEN IT COMES TO I GUESS WE HAVE THREE GRIEVANCES TONIGHT, RIGHT? CORRECT. WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO WHEN WE HEAR THESE GRIEVANCES, WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO HEAR WHAT'S IN THE GRIEVANCE PACKET, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ARRIVING HERE, THERE'S A, QUOTE, SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT AND EMAIL FROM A SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEE.

HOW HOW WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED IF IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET? SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE THAT INVOLVES ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION? WELL, I'M NOT SPEAKING TO WHAT'S IN IT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'VE BEEN HEARING GRIEVANCES FOR TWO YEARS AND SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL TO REFER TO OTHER DOCUMENTS OR TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD WE ARE CONFINED TO WHAT'S IN HERE.

SO I DON'T THAT IS PART OF THE OFFICIAL PACKET.

IT'S JUST NOT BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYONE BECAUSE IT CAN TURN CONTAINS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION.

SO THAT IS PART, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT LOOKS LIKE OTHER PACKETS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT HAS A YELLOW COVER SHEET AND THAT YELLOW COVERED SHEET HAS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE INFORMATION. SO IT HAS NOT BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYONE.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN REDACTED.

IT SHOULD BE IN THE PACKET IF IT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED TO CREATE THE PACKETS.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

WELL, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE PROCEEDING HERE COUNTER TO HOW WE'VE PROCEEDED FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

OK. I ACTUALLY NEED TO GO BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED.

I AM RECUSING MYSELF ONCE AGAIN.

I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM D1.

BOTH COMPLAINTS AND I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE FIRST COMPLAINT UNDER D1, WHICH DOES LEAVE FOUR TRUSTEES LEFT TO HEAR THE FIRST COMPLAINT THAT WE'RE HEARING UNDER D1.

HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT THAT ALL OF OUR BOARD OFFICERS WILL HAVE RECUSED THEMSELVES SINCE TRUSTEE HARRISON IS NOT PRESENT TONIGHT.

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POINT OF ORDER, MADAM PRESIDENT.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT TONIGHT, AND I WANT IT TO BE LOOKED UPON BY FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM THE GRIEVANT.

OF COURSE, AS FAIR.

I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRUSTEES WESTON OR BONE BEING THE PRESIDING OFFICER TONIGHT.

THEY SEEM TO HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GRIEVANT.

AND I THINK IF YOU GO ON EITHER OF THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN INAPPROPRIATE CLOSENESS THERE THAT MIGHT MAKE IT LOOK FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING UNTOWARD WHEN WE MAKE THIS DECISION.

I JUST WANT THE BOARD AS A BODY CORPORATE TO BE PROTECTED IN THIS WAY.

SO I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM D2 FOR THE RECORD.

AND IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF INAPPROPRIATE SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I'VE DONE, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE THAT.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO ASSERT THINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COME WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT WE CAN EVERYBODY CAN SPEAK FAIRLY TO WHAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE WORSE, THE USE OF THE WORD INAPPROPRIATE.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT IT MIGHT BE SEEN AS AN INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP FOR HEARING A GRIEVANCE, IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.

NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE ON FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT YOU'VE DONE.

JUST THAT YOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO THIS PERSON.

WELL, I HAVE HAD TWO CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR OVER A DECADE, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I KNOW.

I'VE BEEN ON DIFFERENT BOARDS AND DIFFERENT BOOSTERS AND OBVIOUSLY BEEN ON THIS BOARD.

SO THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT I'M CLOSE TO.

I THINK WE'RE EITHER RECUSING OURSELVES OR WE'RE NOT, AND I'M NOT RECUSING MYSELF, FOR D1.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER RECUSALS THAT ARE HAPPENING THIS EVENING? OKAY, SO I NEED TO CHOOSE A PRESIDING OFFICER TO PRESIDE OVER THE FIRST GRIEVANCE THAT IS HEARD TONIGHT.

AND A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

CAN WE GO INTO THE OUR PROCEDURES AND KNOW WHERE IT IS? WHERE IT SAYS THAT YOU CHOOSE THE PERSON PRESIDE OVER THIS? WELL, I'M THE PRESIDING OFFICER, AND SO I'M CHOOSING A REPLACEMENT.

SO I'M JUST, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S LEGAL COUNCIL, BUT I YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT, SO LET'S DO IT.

LET'S GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE LET'S MAKE SURE WE GO IN.

AND SO WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? MY CONCERNS I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE OUR POLICY OR OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES STATE THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER, IF THERE'S NO PRESIDING OFFICERS, THAT THEY CHOOSE THE PRESIDING OFFICER. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A PRECEDENT FOR THIS.

WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD ALL THREE.

IT'S NOT A PRECEDENCE.

SO IF THERE'S.

YEAH, I KNOW VALERIE.

HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND PROCEEDING IN CHOOSING A PRESIDING OFFICER? I MEAN, I WOULD GUESS THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY FOR THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO MAKE THAT SELECTION IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE MATTER.

SO LAWS DON'T WORK ON I THINK I MIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT THERE IS SPECIFIC POLICY ON IT.

I CAN DOUBLE CHECK DURING OUR.

THERE'S NO BOARD LEVEL POLICIES THAT ADDRESS.

BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE IF WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT IS YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN IN GRIEVIANTS EVER AND YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS.

AND THEN THERE'S CONCERNS WITH THE OPTICS OF TWO PEOPLE PRESIDING OVER THIS, BUT THEN THE OTHER TWO HAVE NEVER HAD A GRIEVANCE.

I'VE NEVER SAID IN A REAL GRIEVANCE.

SO I'M LOOKING OUT AT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO'S TRYING TO GET A FAIR HEARING AND HAVE US LISTEN.

AND SO I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN NO.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING, FOR ONE THING, IT'S KIND OF CONCERNING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD PRESIDENT KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT THIS WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF BEFOREHAND AND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IDENTIFIED, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY OR PROCEDURE.

SO HOW DOES IT WORK? AND WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY OR PROCEDURE BECAUSE TEA IS SITTING RIGHT DOWN THERE TEA HAS ENOUGH ON THEIR HANDS WITH US.

SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? VALERIE? SO I'M I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY STATE THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE FOR ONE OF THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO DO IT, SEEING AS THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN RAISED ABOUT SOME BOARD MEMBERS EXISTING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF A RELATIONSHIP OR WHATNOT WITH THE GRIEVANT.

SO THAT BEING BROUGHT UP, I THINK IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE FOR ONE OF THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO SIT AS A PRESIDING OFFICER.

I CAN CERTAINLY GUIDE THEM AND HELP THEM.

WE HAVE SCRIPTS AND I MEAN AS LEGAL COUNSEL, I CAN SIT BY THEM TO ASSIST THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SO I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE AS A TRUSTEE THAT MR. STORY WILL GET A FAIR HEARING.

HAVING A PRESIDING OFFICER THAT HAS LITERALLY NEVER SAID AN A GRIEVANCE PRESIDING OVER THIS.

SO I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT.

I CANNOT AS A TRUSTEE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN INTERACT WITH SOMEBODY PRESIDING OVER A GRIEVANCE THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I'M SUPPOSED TO INTERACT WITH THEM AS A TRUSTEE.

SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

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SO TRUSTEE BONE, I WOULD NORMALLY SAY THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T PROBABLY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE OF A GRIEVANCE BECAUSE ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE IN CLOSED SESSION. BUT WE DID JUST HAVE A GRIEVANCE ON DECEMBER THE EIGHTH THAT WAS HELD IN OPEN SESSION.

AND ANYBODY THAT GOES BACK AND WATCHES IT, THERE IS A VERY PRESCRIBED SCRIPT THAT YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU LITERALLY READ EXACTLY WHAT IS ON THE PAGE. SO ALL THE PRESIDING OFFICER DOES IN A GRIEVANCE IS LITERALLY READ THE FOUR PAGE SCRIPT, MAKE PAUSES WHEN THERE'S TIME FOR EACH SIDE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. I READ THE SCRIPT ON DECEMBER THE EIGHTH.

I'VE READ THE SCRIPT MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR.

IT'S THE SAME EXACT SCRIPT FOR ALL THREE OF THE GRIEVANCES TONIGHT, EXCEPT FOR THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BROUGHT IT.

SO, PRESIDING OFFICER, IS THIS IS ONLY SOMEONE WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO READ AND FOLLOW THE SCRIPT.

I GUESS I'M DISAPPOINTED.

BUT VALERIE, DID ANYBODY BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION OR ARE YOU SURPRISED TO BE FACED WITH THIS TONIGHT? NO, I DID TALK TO HER ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ALL THREE BOARD OFFICERS BEING.

BUT I COULDN'T BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

I MEAN, I CAN'T HAVE A BOARD DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU EXPECTED US TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

I WOULD HAVE RIGHT NOW. I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED VALERIE TO COME WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.

THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT LIKE BEING CONCERNED, I MEAN, LIKE, LITERALLY ALL OF US ARE VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE VERY INVOLVED IN OUR SCHOOLS.

WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SOME OF US KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE GRIEVANCES BEFORE.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE GRIEVANCES HAVE VOLUNTEERED ON SOME OF YOUR CAMPAIGNS.

AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY QUESTION ABOUT COULD YOU PRESIDE OVER THE GRIEVANCE HEARING.

SO I THINK WE'RE EITHER GOING TO SERVE ON THE GRIEVANCE HEARING OR WE'RE NOT.

AND I DON'T THINK, GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AMBER, ABOUT THE FACT THIS IS JUST A SCRIPT, READ IT.

YOU, THE PRESIDING OFFICER, HOLDS NO ADDITIONAL VOTING POWER OR DECISION MAKING POWER.

SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE GRIEVANCES IN MULTIPLE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS. AND I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M PLAY SEVEN.

DR. BONE, YOUR PLACE 2 I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A STUDENT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT MAKES SENSE ALPHABETICALLY, ALPHA NUMERICALLY, SHE'S PLACED TWO AND PLACED SEVEN OF THE TWO TENURED MEMBERS.

SHE SHOULD PROBABLY SERVE AS A PRESIDING OFFICER.

I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST THING TO DO.

SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE A MOTION AND PUT IT TO A VOTE FOR THE BOARD.

IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRESIDING OFFICER, I WILL TELL YOU I'LL MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE AND I WILL MOVE THAT I MOVE TO MAKE ALICIA MARKHAM, THE PRESIDING OFFICER FOR THE FIRST GRIEVANCE.

AND THE REASON BEHIND MAKING THAT MOTION IS, YEAH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS IN THIS DISTRICT, BUT I DID SEE PICTURES ON SOCIAL MEDIA OF YOU ATTENDING AN INTIMATE CHRISTMAS PARTY WITH THE GRIEVANT IN A ROOM FULL OF LESS THAN ABOUT 15 OR 20 PEOPLE.

SO. THAT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THAN KNOWING SOMEBODY THAT YOU SEE IN THE HALLWAY OR THAT YOU MAY KNOW.

SPARINGLY. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE A MONITOR IS BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDING OFFICERS RELATIONSHIP AND INABILITY TO RECUSE THEMSELVES IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

AND I DO NOT WANT THIS DISTRICT GETTING INTO THAT SITUATION AGAIN WHERE A PRESIDING OFFICER COULD HAVE ANY HINT OF ANY KIND OF IMPROPRIETY OR ANY KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WITH. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU DO, BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND FOR THAT ABILITY TO EVEN BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

SO I MOVE TO MAKE ALISHA MARKHAM, THE PRESIDING OFFICER FOR THE FIRST GRIEVANCE SECOND.

ANY OTHER MOTIONS? I HAVE COMMENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND? NO, I HAVE A DISCUSSION.

SORRY. BOTH SPOKE AT THE SAME TIME, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT? SO I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ONLINE RESEARCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT YOUR COLLEAGUES.

NOT DOING ONLINE RESEARCH, THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

NO, I DIDN'T. I SAID I SAW A PICTURE ON ONLINE NOT DOING RESEARCH.

OK YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA NOT DOING RESEARCH AND YOU SAW A PICTURE AND FORMED AN OPINION.

MY REQUEST WOULD BE MY QUESTION IS, WHY DID YOU NOT JUST SEND US ALL AN EMAIL PRIOR TO TONIGHT AND EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND WORK THAT OUT WITH VALERIE AND JUST SAY WHAT YOU'RE.

WHY ARE WE AIRING ALL THIS OUT NOW? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THINGS AND MAKE DECISIONS AS A BOARD UNLESS WE ARE SITTING AT THIS DAIS.

AND I CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH THIS BOARD AND SOLICIT OPINIONS FROM PEOPLE BACK UNLESS WE ARE ON THIS DAIS.

BUT YOU CAN FORESEE A PROBLEM AND MAKE A SUGGESTION SO THAT WE CAN WALK IN PREPARED.

DULY NOTED. TRUSTEE BONE.

SO OBVIOUSLY YET AGAIN TONIGHT.

THIS WAS ALREADY ALL PREPARED.

WE ALL CAN SEE IT LIKE IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST.

BUT IF IT DOES, I AM ONE.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL KNEW EXCEPT DANIELLE AND I WHAT WAS HAPPENING TONIGHT.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

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IT IS JUST SO OBVIOUS THAT THE OPTICS.

BUT BECAUSE. THERE YOU GO.

WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT OPTICS.

SO THE OPTICS OF THIS IS THAT IT FULLY LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL WALKED IN HERE TONIGHT PREPARED TO DO THIS FULLY, THE OPTICS OF THIS.

SO WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT OPTICS.

YOU'RE LITERALLY GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S NEVER SAID IN ONE GRIEVANCE.

TRY TO PROCEED OVER A GRIEVANCE.

AND I SEE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHAKING THEIR HEAD BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SENDING OUT.

THEY'RE THINKING, I'M NOT GETTING A FAIR SHAKE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

PLEASE LET ME FINISH.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ON TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

ON ONE SIDE, YOU'RE SAYING ALL IT TAKES IS.

HEY, POINT OF ORDER, TRUSTEE BONE.

I DO NOT APPRECIATE ACCUSATIONS AND FALSE CLAIMS. LET ME FINISH. I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO FINISH IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOB ACCUSATIONS.

OKAY, THAT IS RIGHT. I FORGOT.

YOU GUYS ARE THE RULERS OF FREE SPEECH.

I FORGOT THAT.

I THINK MR. STORY KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, AND I'M TIRED OF IT.

YOU'RE NOT THE RULER OF FREE SPEECH.

I HAVE THE FLOOR.

I WILL SAY WHAT I AM.

AND THEN YOU CAN RECANT WHATEVER YOU DON'T LIKE.

SO HERE'S THE DEAL.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ON TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

FOR ONE THING, THE OPTICS ARE BAD.

THE OPTICS ARE REALLY BAD RIGHT NOW THAT YOU GUYS WALKED IN HERE YET AGAIN.

AND OBVIOUSLY, CHUY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING.

YOU GUYS ALL KNEW THIS.

THE OPTICS IS THERE.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS OPTICS, RIGHT.

FOR TWO. YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO DANIELLE, WHAT DANIELLE SAID, AND YOU ARE SPEAKING OUT OF TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

ANYBODY WITH ANY KIND OF EDUCATION CAN SEE IT IN THE FACT THAT YOU SAID ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ A SCRIPT.

WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE, FOR ONE THING.

BUT TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

WELL, IF YOU ONLY HAVE TO READ A SCRIPT, DANIELLE AND I CAN READ A SCRIPT, BUT WE BOTH KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS.

THERE ARE PROCEDURAL THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN.

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

DO THEY KNOW THEM? I DON'T KNOW. THEY'VE BEEN IN A HALF A MEETING.

SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT YOU DIDN'T COME IN HERE PREPARED.

SO YOU'RE SPEAKING ON TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.

OH, IT'S REALLY EASY.

WELL, IF IT'S REALLY EASY AND IT'S PROCEDURAL, THEN DANIELLE AND I ARE FINE DOING IT.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO THAT IS NOT MY CONCERN.[INAUDIBLE] THE OPTICS.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, ALL YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ALWAYS IS THE OPTICS OF YOUR SIDE.

THE OPTICS FROM OUR SIDE RIGHT NOW, I'M TELLING YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FIVE CAME IN HERE PREPARED.

AND IT DOESN'T.

AND HERE'S THE THING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT DANIELLE AND I SAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET US PRESIDE OVER THIS.

YOU GUYS ARE DETERMINED.

YOU GUYS CAME IN HERE KNOWING THIS, PREPARED BETWEEN YOU.

GO AHEAD, VOTE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, IT'S JUST OBVIOUS FOR ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN WATCHING FOR TWO YEARS, IT'S OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TONIGHT.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU GUYS CAME IN HERE PREPARED AND IT NEEDS TO STOP.

TEA NEEDS TO STOP THIS.

CAN I SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS? SINCE I WAS SINCE I'VE BEEN MENTIONED, WHETHER OR NOT I'M PREPARED TO DO THIS.

SO NO ONE'S ASKED ME YET WHETHER OR NOT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS OR IF I'M PREPARED TO DO IT.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALKING OVER ME AND WHAT I'M CAPABLE OF DOING TONIGHT.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS SO THAT WE DO HAVE AN UNBIASED, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY UNBIASED PROCESS HERE IN THE GRIEVANCE.

I'M COMPLETELY PREPARED TO DO IT.

I FEEL CAPABLE OF DOING IT.

SO I THINK WE CAN REMOVE THAT FROM THE TABLE.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I DO ALSO HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS.

I DID NOT DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE WITH ANYBODY BEFORE I CAME IN HERE.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST MADE ABOUT MR. STORY AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH, I THINK, KIND OF PROVES THE POINT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE TONIGHT OF A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE GRIEVANT AND TRUSTEE WESTON AND TRUSTEE BONE SO I WOULD JUST LIKE I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

TRUSTEE WEIR YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON.

YES, I DON'T APPRECIATE THE ACCUSATIONS.

THE ONLY THING I CAME PREPARED TO DO TODAY WAS RECUSE MYSELF ONCE AGAIN PRIOR TO GOING INTO CLOSED FROM THESE GRIEVANCES.

THAT WAS IT. I HAD NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

SO I DON'T APPRECIATE ANY ACCUSATIONS THAT SOMEHOW I HAD SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.

ALSO HAVING BEEN THE PRESIDING OFFICER AND DEALT WITH THE LAST TIME WE HAD A TRUSTEE NOT RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM RUNNING A GRIEVANCE WHERE THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE BIASED OR UNBIASED, AND THEIR OPINION WAS THAT THEY WERE UNBIASED AND IT WAS NOT TEA'S OPINION LATER ON THAT THEY WERE UNBIASED.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD TO TAKE THAT CHANCE.

THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS NOW IS THAT WE NOW HAVE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE UNBIASED AND THERE IS NOW A QUORUM THAT CAN DO IT.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALICIA DOING IT.

I UNDERSTAND PRESIDENT LANDRUM CONCERNS BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE DEALING WITH TO AS A BOARD PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME.

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AND YOU GUYS ALL PRETEND LIKE MAYBE THE REST OF THE WORLD DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

MAYBE THEY DON'T. BUT ALICIA AND CHUY ARE NOT UNBIASED ABOUT JEREMY'S STORY.

I MEAN,[INAUDIBLE] SO.

I MEAN.

YEAH. I MEAN, LET'S PREPARE FOR THIS.

LET'S GO AND SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.

ABOUT JEREMY'S STORY.

LET'S GO BACK AND HUNT IT DOWN.

THERE'S NOBODY UP HERE THAT'S UNBIASED ABOUT JEREMY'S STORY.

THERE'S NOBODY. SO YOU GUYS, IT'S ALL.

THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DO. YOU GUYS ALL JUST MAKE UP THESE THINGS LIKE, OH, ME AND DANIELLE ARE BIASED, BUT WE'RE NOT BIASED.

AND THEN YOU EQUATE IT TO THINGS THAT ARE.

IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.

THAT TEA. [INAUDIBLE] MYSELF BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN HEAR THIS.

I AM THE ONLY ONE DOING THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING, YOU DIDN'T LET ME FINISH YET AGAIN.

SEE, I GET INTERRUPTED AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, OH, MARY [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES TEA CAME IN BECAUSE THE PRESIDING OFFICER WAS HEARING A GRIEVANCE ABOUT A EMPLOYEE THAT WAS EVENTUALLY FIRED. OR LET GO OR WHATEVER HAPPENED.

SO THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE.

LET'S NOT TALK. THIS IS A PRESIDING OFFICER MATTERS PUBLICLY BECAUSE I WAS.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T REMEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT STUFF'S CONFIDENTIAL WITH EMPLOYEES.

YES. WHATEVER HAPPENED, I WASN'T THERE FOR THAT MEETING.

IT WASN'T EVEN THERE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW I WASN'T ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.

WHATEVER HAPPENED THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED LATER.

SO WHATEVER IS GOING ON HERE, I MEAN, AND FOR YOU GUYS AND YOU TALK ABOUT ACCUSATIONS, THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE BIASED.

IF WE'RE BIASED, THEN WE SHOULD RECUSE OURSELVES.

YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU WERE BIASED.

I DIDN'T. I SAID WE'RE I SAID IF YOU SAID THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON THIS DAIS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BIAS.

THE ONLY BIAS [INAUDIBLE] YEAH.

THE ONLY BIAS THAT'S BEEN POINTED TO AS A PICTURE, RIGHT? THAT'S BIAS I'M TALKING ABOUT.

AND WE'VE HAD LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD GRIEVANCE COME BEFORE WHERE AMBER, YOU DID NOT RECUSE YOURSELF.

AMY, TIFFANY AND THE GRIEVANT, LIKE, WAS WORKING ON YOUR POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS AND MARY AND I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T PRESIDE OVER IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS LINE OF BIAS IS AND WHERE THE LINE IS AND WHERE IT ISN'T.

AND WHEN YOU'RE BEHIND IT, WHEN YOU'RE IN FRONT OF IT.

BUT NO EVIDENCE WAS BROUGHT TO ME TONIGHT.

NOTHING. I WALK IN HERE IN GOOD FAITH, READY TO HEAR A GRIEVANCE.

AND YET AGAIN, WE JUST WE HAVE THIS DRAMA AND THIS INSISTENCE ABOUT MARGINALIZING TWO DULY ELECTED TRUSTEES FOR REASONS KNOWN ONLY, YOU KNOW, TO OTHERS.

BUT THIS IS AT LEAST ALICIA THIS IS NOT A NOTHING ABOUT YOU.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN READ A SCRIPT.

I THINK WE CAN ALL READ A SCRIPT.

THIS IS MORE ABOUT THE STRUCTURE HERE AND THE CULTURE HERE AND MY DESIRE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE IF THIS GRIEVANCE WAS HEARD IN A TIMELY MANNER.

LET'S NOT FORGET THAT FOR MONTHS THIS THING WAS NOT HEARD.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT JUST GOES TO THE CULTURE HERE OF LACK OF PREPAREDNESS, LACK OF LEADERSHIP, LACK OF ORGANIZATION, LACK OF COMMUNICATION, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT JUST THIS CONFLUENCE.

AND WE JUST KEEP FINDING OURSELVES HERE OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

AND I DON'T THINK IT SERVES THE PUBLIC WELL.

I THINK THE MORE AND MORE THAT TRUSTEES WEST AND BOWEN ARGUE ABOUT THIS ONLY MAKES US LOOK MORE BIASED AS A BOARD, AS A BOARD TOGETHER.

MY IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD CUT ALL THIS OFF AND NO ONE FROM THE OUTSIDE WOULD PERCEIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BIAS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I OR ALICIA ARE VERY NEW.

SO THE MORE AND MORE THAT WE ARGUE ABOUT THIS, THE MORE AND MORE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A BIAS AND IT LOOKS THAT WAY TO THE PUBLIC.

AND THAT'S NOT GOOD WHEN WE'RE COMING TO THIS, I WANT JEREMY'S STORY TO HAVE A FAIR SHAKE.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.

YOU SHOULD WANT HIM TO HAVE A FAIR SHAKE AS WELL.

I WOULD SAY THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A FAIR SHAKE WITH SOMEBODY PRESIDING OVER IT THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WORKS. CAN WE GET CAN THEY HEAR A GRIEVANCE IF THERE'S JUST IF THERE'S NOT A QUORUM? IS A QUORUM REQUIRED? YES. TO HEAR A GRIEVANCE BECAUSE THIS IS A BOARD MEETING.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.

AND I WILL SAY I GREW UP IN A TOWN OF 100 PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WOULD. THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD WOULD HEAR GRIEVANCES FROM FAMILY MEMBERS.

THIS HAPPENS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS SAY BIAS AND THANK YOU, TRUSTEE WESTON FOR CLARIFYING IT.

FOR THOSE THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION IS THAT WE'RE ALL BIASED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

SO AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, IF YOU GUYS ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT OPTICS, THE LAW DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OPTICS.

THE LAW CARES ABOUT FACTS.

AND SO THE FACT IS DANIELLE AND I HAVE [INAUDIBLE] EXPERIENCE.

WE SIT THROUGH MANY GRIEVANCES.

WE UNDERSTAND HOW THEY RUN. WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURES.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DISTRICT CAN DO, WHAT THE DISTRICT CAN'T DO, WHAT THE YOU KNOW, MR. STORY COULD DO WHAT HE CAN'T SAY.

WE CAN'T INTERRUPT.

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WE UNDERSTAND.

THE POINT IS THAT HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO.

IF I WERE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOES.

AND WE'RE ALSO GETTING READY TO HEAR ANOTHER GRIEVANCE TONIGHT THAT WE COULD HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND THEN WE COULD SAY THAT, OH, THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS BIASED ABOUT THAT, AND WE CAN GO PROVE IT TO YOU.

I CAN GO ON FACEBOOK AND I CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION.

I MEAN, THIS IS A WE'RE GOING DOWN A SLOPE.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS BY MANY FACTS.

AND THE APPEARANCE OF IT IS THAT FOUR OF YOU, OR MAYBE AT LEAST TWO OF YOU.

THREE OF YOU WALKED IN TO NIGHT KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND A COUPLE OF US DIDN'T.

AND SO WE ARE TIRED OF IT.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO PRESIDE OVER THE.

I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW.

I'M SORRY, DANNY, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE REMIND EVERYONE HERE ON THE BOARD THAT THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND PENDING, AND THIS DISCUSSION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THAT. SO WE STILL HAVE THAT PENDING.

SO THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND.

THE LAST STATEMENT THAT I WILL MAKE IS.

SOME PEOPLE ON THIS DIOCESE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR JOBS.

AND MY JOB IS FOR A LONG TIME HAS BEEN TO LOOK AT WORST CASE SCENARIOS AND PREPARE FOR IT.

AND I LOOKED AT EVERY SCENARIO THAT I POSSIBLY COULD THINK OF.

I TRY TO DO THAT ON A CONSISTENT AND REGULAR BASIS.

I THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, HOW TO BE PREPARED FOR IT.

SOME OF MY PLANS NEVER EVEN HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE FALLEN, YOU KNOW, FALL BACK ON BECAUSE THAT EVENT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND I'VE WEIGHED EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN A PRESIDING OFFICER ON THIS.

AND THIS TO ME, PRESENTED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS POTENTIALLY TO COME IN THE FUTURE.

I STAND BY MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND OF ALICIA MARCUM PRESIDING OVER THE FIRST GRIEVANCE.

RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES.

THREE, TWO. POINT OF ORDER.

YES. WHAT IS YOUR POINT, MADAM CHAIR? DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHO SHOULD PRESIDE OVER ITEM D TWO? THERE ARE LOTS OF CONCERNS POSED ABOUT DO ONE PREVENTING DR.

BOWEN OR I FROM PRESIDING OVER D ONE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO PRESIDE OVER D TWO BECAUSE WE COULD SIT HERE AND HAVE THE EXACT SAME CONVERSATION FOR D TWO.

WELL, THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S RECUSING THEMSELVES IS YOU, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I DON'T KNOW THIS GRIEVANT PERSONALLY, I DON'T.

I'VE MET HIM ONE TIME IN PERSON IN AN EVENT OF ABOUT 300 PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW THIS GRIEVANT.

I FEEL LIKE I CAN BE UNBIASED IN D2, SO I'M NOT RECUSING MYSELF FOR THE SECOND ITEM UNDER THE SECOND GRIEVANCE UNDER D ONE AND I'M NOT RECUSING MYSELF FOR ITEM D TWO.

WELL, I WOULD JUST DISAGREE.

I THINK THAT I COULD PROVIDE A LITANY OF EVIDENCE IF I KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP ON D1, I WOULD HAVE COME WITH THAT EVIDENCE ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BE UNBIASED TO HERE D2.

AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, YOUR.

ARE YOU ASKING ME TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR D2? I SAID I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BE UNBIASED AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF D2.

THAT IS MY OPINION. I'M GETTING THAT ON THE RECORD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU SO.

[D. CLOSED SESSION ( Part 1 of 2 )]

WE ARE MOVING INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 AND 551.074.

THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER TWO COMPLAINTS FILED BY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, JEREMY STORY.

WE MAY POSSIBLY HEAR ONE COME OUT WITH MOTIONS.

GO BACK IN AND HEAR THE SECOND COMPLAINT, OR WE MAY HEAR BOTH OF THE COMPLAINTS AND COME OUT WITH MOTIONS AFTER THAT.

MORE THAN LIKELY, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK OUT AFTER THE FIRST COMPLAINT, RESET THE DYESS, AND IF ANY MOTIONS COME OUT, THEN WE'LL GO BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION TO HEAR THE SECOND COMPLAINT. FOR D1 IT IS 6:09 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

I WILL ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IF YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS FIRST ITEM D1 TO PLEASE LEAVE THE BOARD ROOM.

THANK YOU.

IT IS. 7:58 WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

[E. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS ( Part 1 of 2 )]

SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM.

[D. CLOSED SESSION ( Part 2 of 2 )]

THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER THE COMPLAINT FILED BY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, JACK CHILES.

IT IS 7:59.

WE WILL BE HAVING CLOSED SESSION IN THIS ROOM, SO I'LL ASK YOU IF YOU'RE NOT A PARTY TO THIS GRIEVANCE, PLEASE LEAVE THE ROOM AND WE WILL CALL YOU BACK IN AN OPEN SESSION.

WE GOT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS STREAMING.

IT IS 10:07.

[E. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS ( Part 2 of 2 )]

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED WITH REGARDS TO THE OUTCOME OF THIS GRIEVANCE?

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THE BOARD TAKES NO ACTION.

THE DECISION. THIS SATISFIES THE BOARD'S OBLIGATION TO STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN TO THE GRIEVANT AS REQUIRED ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY LEGAL.

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WAIVES CONDUCT DURING BOARD MEETINGS SECTION G1A AND AGREES TO SCHEDULE A FUTURE BOARD AN AGENDA ITEM TO ADDRESS THE MATTER DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION RELATED TO THIS GRIEVANCE PURSUANT TO G1B.

GO AHEAD. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FOUR ONE.

OTHER THAN THE ONE MOTION, ONE GRIEVANCE THAT WE POSTPONED TONIGHT, WE ARE CAUGHT UP ON LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCES TRUSTEES.

SO WE WILL BE RESCHEDULING THE PREVIOUS ONE THIS EVENING.

AND OTHERWISE WE ARE ALL CUT UP.

IT IS 10:09 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.