May 11, 2022 Called Board Meetings

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IT IS 5:30 ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 11, 2022, I HEREBY CALL THE MEETING OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES CALLED BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEDGE] ALL RIGHT. AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

[C. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY]

SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES.

THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED.

PER TEXAS PENAL CODE.

38.13. 42.01, 42.02 AND 42.05.

AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105.

NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARDS ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON.

THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

IF, AFTER AT LEAST ONE MORE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER AND THE INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.

THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION ITEM PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN 2 MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER.

WE'LL START WITH OUR STUDENT SPEAKERS FIRST, WE'LL START WITH CHRISTOPHER MALONE.

WE WERE PROMISED THE BUILDING WOULD BE FINISHED OUR JUNIOR YEAR.

THAT IS WHAT ECHS LEGACY CLASS GRADUATE LILY ZHANG TOLD ME AS I STOOD OUTSIDE THE PORTABLES MY FIRST SEMESTER AT ECHS.

ONLY A FEW MONTHS PRIOR, THE SAME PROMISE WAS GIVEN TO ME AT MY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

TODAY, I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AS A JUNIOR, STILL IN PORTABLES AS A STUDENT AMBASSADOR FOR ECHS.

I GO TO INSPIRED EIGHTH GRADERS AND WHEN I GET THE EVER ASKED QUESTION ARE WE GETTING A BUILDING? I STRUGGLE. HOPEFULLY THE BUILDING WILL BE DONE BY YOUR JUNIOR YEAR.

I SAY, HOW MANY TIMES WILL THIS PROMISE BE TOLD AND BROKEN? AS A LEADING MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN STUDENT COMMITTEE, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR VOICING WHAT ECHS STUDENTS WANTED IN A BUILDING.

WE FINALLY FELT LISTENED TO IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC.

WE WERE GIVEN A TIMELINE THAT STATED THIS PROMISE WOULD COME TRUE THAT I WOULD HAVE A BUILDING BEFORE I GRADUATE.

WHILE BUILDING COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED DURING THE PANDEMIC IT IS TIME THAT WE BREAK GROUND ON THE BUILDING.

I KNOW THAT I WON'T BE AN ECHS STUDENT WHEN IT'S FINISHED, BUT IT IS TIME THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO CALL OUR OWN.

NO LONGER SHOULD WE BE WAITING IN THE FREEZING RAIN TO GET A MEAL FROM THE FOOD TRUCK OR THE ENDLESSLY HOT DAYS FORCED TO HAVE LUNCH OUTSIDE BECAUSE THE PORTABLES WEREN'T MEANT TO HOLD THIS MANY STUDENTS.

LEST WE FORGET THE COMMONS, WHICH IS IN PART HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A TEACHER FACULTY AREA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PORTABLES FOR EVERY TEACHER.

THIS HAS GONE ON FOR TOO LONG.

WE NEED TO BE EQUITABLE.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT WANTING SOMETHING SHINY AND BRAND NEW.

IT'S ABOUT HAVING SPACE TO GATHER.

A PLACE FOR TEACHERS TO GRADE PAPERS, A PLACE FOR STUDENTS TO EAT.

HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOUR PROMISE BE BROKEN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS CHRISTINE GIBSON, A STUDENT . I AS WELL AM A STUDENT AMBASSADOR, AND MY POSITION ENTAILS TAKING THE CONCERNS OF STUDENTS AND RESOLVING THEM.

BUT THERE ARE SOME COMPLAINTS.

I'M SORRY. I WAS LISTENING TO OUR ATTORNEY, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU START.

CAN YOU START HER TIME OVER? I APOLOGIZE. JUST CLARIFYING A POINT OF ORDER ON IT.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DON'T MIND STARTING BACK OVER.

GLADLY. I AM A STUDENT AMBASSADOR.

MY POSITION ENTAILS TAKING THE CONCERNS OF STUDENTS AND RESOLVING THEM WITH THE HELP OF OUR STAFF PTSA.

MANY OF THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT LAY BEYOND US.

STUDENTS LOSING VALUABLES AND LONG TERM PROJECTS AFTER BEING PELTED IN THE RAIN.

STUDENTS BEING STUNG BY BEES AND WASPS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND ALWAYS FLEEING TO THE NURSE'S OFFICE.

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RECENTLY THERE WAS A TORNADO IN ROUND ROCK.

HAD IT STRUCK OUR SCHOOL, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT UNPROTECTED.

RUN TO ACC.

BY THE TIME WE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT, THE DAMAGE WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

STUDENTS SACRIFICE SO MANY THINGS, BUT THEIR SAFETY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

MONEY WAS ALLOTTED IN THE 2018 BOND FOR THE PLANNING OF OUR CAMPUS, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE, AND WE ARE EVER GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

HOWEVER, WHAT'S THE POINT OF SPENDING THE MONEY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THE BUILDING? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS SAWYER NEIMAN, STUDENT.

HELLO. MY NAME IS SAWYER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M ONE OF THE STUDENTS AND NOT AN AMBASSADOR OR ANYTHING TO ECHS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE IS SAFETY CONCERNS AT OUR SCHOOL.

IT IS EASY TO JUST WALK IN DURING A PASSING PERIOD.

THERE IS NO ONE TO STOP SOMEONE LIKE AN OFFICE, TO STOP SOMEONE FROM JUST WALKING STRAIGHT INTO OUR SCHOOL WHILE THERE ARE STUDENTS OUTSIDE.

THAT IS A BIG SAFETY CONCERN OF MINE.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP THE WEATHER.

AND IF THERE'S HARSH WEATHER, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN JUST LIKE STAY IN A BUILDING WHEN WE'RE WALKING ACROSS TO OUR NEXT CLASSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE PELTING RAIN, THE FREEZING OR THE SUMMER HEAT IN TEXAS, WHICH JUST GETS HOT.

AND THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT IS SIRI BANDOM, STUDENT.

OH, SHE'S A VIRTUAL SPEAKER.

SORRY. DIDN'T SEE THAT.

CAN YOU CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE ONE MORE TIME SO WE CAN CHECK OUR VOLUME LEVELS IN THE ROOM? THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS NOT JOINED THE MEETING YET.

KEEP ON TALKING I HAVEN'T STARTED YOUR TIME YET BUT KEEP.

SORRY. THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T HEAR HER.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL COME BACK.

NEXT IS MAURENA ICARO, VIRTUAL STUDENT OR A STUDENT WHO IS SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

CAN YOU HEAR? WHAT? CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE ONE MORE TIME SO WE CAN CHECK OUR VOLUME LEVELS IN THE ROOM? OH, THAT WAS ME.

MAURENA ICARO.

I HAVEN'T STARTED YOUR TIME YET, BUT KEEP OH, IT'S JENNIFER. SHE'S NOT IN THE WAITING ROOM.

SORRY. THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T HEAR HER.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL COME BACK.

HELLO. MY NAME IS MAURENA ICARO, AND I'M A FRESHMAN AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

I BELIEVE THAT RISD FUNDS SHOULD GO TOWARDS CONSTRUCTING A BUILDING FOR ECHS.

THE BUILDING IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE ONLY SCHOOL, [INAUDIBLE] CAMPUS DOES NOT SUPPORT A BUILDING FOR ITS TEACHERS, STUDENTS AND STAFF.

A RESEARCH STUDY HAS SHOWN THERE WAS ALSO A RISE OF STUDENT VIOLENCE, ACCORDING TO A RESEARCH STUDY.

44% OF STUDENT LEADERS HAVE SAID THEY HAVE RECEIVED MORE STUDENT VIOLENCE THAN THEY DID IN THE FALL OF 2019.

IF A SCHOOL SHOOTER WERE TO COME TO OUR CAMPUS, STUDENTS WOULD BE IN DANGER BECAUSE THE PORTABLES WE HAVE CANNOT PROTECT US.

IN ADDITION, WITH THE EVENT, LIKE A TORNADO, THE PORTABLES WOULD BE QUICKLY DESTROYED.

THE SOONER WE HAVE A BUILDING, THE SOONER THERE WILL BE SAFETY, SECURITY AND EQUITY AT ECHS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS DONNA TUCKER SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F ONE.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

I'M OLD. I HAVE SOME WISDOM AND I REALIZED WHEN I WALKED IN GREETED BY THE CLASS OF 87.

ONE OF MY KIDS GRADUATED THEN THAT HE MUST BE 52 BECAUSE.

THAT'S HOW OLD I AM.

I AM 50 YEARS OLDER THAN THE GRADUATING STUDENTS THIS YEAR.

NOW, YOU JUST HEARD FROM A BUNCH OF STUDENTS AND THEY JUST SAID ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING I TOLD DR.

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I SAID, YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND INDOOR SWIM CENTER.

THAT'S A LUXURY.

YOU DON'T NEED THE FIRST ONE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT A LOT OF MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON THROUGH THE YEARS, AND IT'S TIME TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

WHEN YOU HAVE STUDENTS IN PORTABLES, I'M GOING TO REITERATE WHAT THESE KIDS JUST TOLD YOU.

WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS IN PORTABLES, YOU CANNOT PROTECT THEM FROM A CRAZY PERSON WITH A GUN.

YOU CANNOT PROTECT THEM FROM INCLEMENT WEATHER.

AND THEY'RE TELLING YOU WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CONCERNED THAT THE SWIM TEAM NOT HAVE TO GET OUT OF A HEATED POOL AND WALK THROUGH COLD AIR TO GO INTO THE DRESSING ROOM. THAT'S A HARDSHIP FOR THEM.

THESE KIDS ARE TELLING YOU THEY HAVE TO WALK OUT IN THE FREEZING RAIN JUST TO GO GET FOOD AND HOPE THE FOOD TRUCKS, THERE.

WE NEED SOME MORE PRIORITIES ON HOW THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT SPENDS MONEY AND NEEDS TO ELIMINATE SOME OF ADMINISTRATION.

YOU GOT TOO MANY CHIEFS AND NOT ENOUGH INDIANS.

YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE MONEY TO PAY SCHOOL TEACHERS.

AND YOU NEED TO STOP SPENDING MONEY DEFENDING YOURSELVES WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO CANCEL OUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE ELECTED BY WE, THE TAXPAYERS.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS KATIE CATHERINE KAISER.

SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F 1 AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE NEW CFO FOR THE BUDGET HE PRESENTED LAST TIME.

AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE STAFF RAISES THAT HE AND HIS TEAM WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE LEFT HERE HAPPY LAST TIME, AND I KNOW THAT'S REALLY HARD TO DO.

A FEW THINGS HAVE COME UP THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION.

I HEARD MY OLD FRIEND STEPHANIE TALK ONE TIME ABOUT THE LACK OF LOCKER ROOMS AND RESTROOMS AT THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS AT WESTWOOD.

IF PEOPLE ARE CHANGING IN THE PARKING LOT AND CRAMMING MULTIPLE TEAMS IN A TWO STALL BATHROOM, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PROBLEM.

NEXT IS MY OWN KIND OF PERSONAL PET PEEVE.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST AND A HIPPIE AT HEART, SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP THE STYROFOAM LUNCH TRAYS.

IT'S 2022.

WHY ARE OUR KIDS EATING OFF STYROFOAM LUNCH TRAYS? [LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW, STYROFOAM LIKE I KNOW WE FILL UP A DUMPSTER A DAY AT OUR TINY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THE WHOLE DISTRICT DOES.

I JUST I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO CUT TAXES AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER BIGGER FISH TO FRY.

BUT I THINK BRINGING UP PROTECTING OUR KIDS HEALTH, WE'RE FINDING PLASTIC IN OUR BLOODSTREAM THESE DAYS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD.

SO IF WE COULD SWITCH TO LIKE A CARDBOARD OPTION OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS VIRTUAL SPEAKER DEVICAR [INAUDIBLE] SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F 1.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? JUST I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO CUT.

HELLO. YES, GO AHEAD.

I CAN'T HEAR FROM ANYBODY THERE.

SO IS THIS MY TURN TO GO? YES, SIR. CAN YOU HEAR US? IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.

OKAY, LOOK, I'M HERE TO DELIVER A PETITION TO THE BOARD AND THE RISD ADMINISTRATION THAT IS CURRENTLY SIGNED BY OVER 500 CONCERNED RISD RESIDENTS.

THE RISD IS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ADMINISTRATION MUST ACT TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THEIR TAXPAYERS DUE TO THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUATIONS AT A TIME MARKED BY ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND RISING INFLATION NOT SEEN IN DECADES.

IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES, THE RISD BOARD CAN ALLEVIATE THIS SITUATION FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS ALIKE BY ADOPTING A LOWER TAX RATE.

THAT CAN OFFSET THIS SUBSTANTIAL NET TAX INCREASE.

WHILE STILL ENSURING THAT RISD MEETS ITS BUDGET GOALS FOR THE 2022 2023 FISCAL YEAR.

LET ME QUICKLY GO THROUGH SOME FACTS.

APPRAISAL VALUES HAVE RISEN 30 TO 60% IN THE LAST YEAR.

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RENTERS AGAIN.

LISTEN, RENTERS IN THE COMMUNITY WILL SEE THE BIGGEST HIT.

SINCE THE.

30 SECONDS. RENTAL PROPERTIES HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND SO ARE TAXED AT THE TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE.

GENTRIFICATION OF OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE OF HIGH PROPERTY VALUATIONS.

IT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF HIGH PROPERTY VALUES.

ALSO, THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT HAS FALLEN.

WE BELIEVE THAT RISD CAN GET THE TAX RATE TO 1.002% AND CAN SEE.

YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, MR. DEVICAR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS LAURA VANASH SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F1.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

I'M SORRY. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU START BACK OVER? SORRY. NO, THAT'S OKAY.

IT WAS MUTED. HEAR ME NOW? YEAH, YEAH. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU ALL.

THE SCHOOL BOARD, DR.

AZAIEZ AND MR. COVINGTON FOR MAKING SURE THAT OUR TEACHERS GET AN INCREASE IN SALARY NEXT YEAR.

I KNOW WE AREN'T DEALING WITH A LIMITLESS BUDGET.

I DO, HOWEVER, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES THE RESOURCES AND TOOLS TO SET OUR TEACHERS UP FOR AS MUCH SUCCESS AS POSSIBLE.

I AM ASKING THAT ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BE ASSIGNED A HIGHLY TRAINED INSTRUCTIONAL COACH.

WHO IS LITERALLY THERE TO RELIEVE SOME OF THIS BURDEN OFF OF OUR TEACHERS, PARTICULARLY NEW TEACHERS.

ALL CAMPUSES NEED SOMEONE TO HELP FACILITATE PLCS NOW MORE THAN EVER, AS WE WILL HAVE STUDENTS WITH LEARNING GAPS LIKE NEVER BEFORE DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

THIS IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH TO ASK OF OUR TEACHERS AT ANY ELEMENTARY CAMPUS TO DO WITHOUT AN INSTRUCTIONAL COACH WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ASSIST OUR TEACHERS IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL STUDENTS ARE PROVIDED IMMEDIATE INTERVENTION AS WELL AS ACCELERATION.

IN ADDITION, PLEASE, BUY ALL ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES, THE HEGGERTY PHONEMIC AWARENESS CURRICULUM FOR GRADES K THROUGH TWO.

SOME CAMPUSES HAVE PURCHASED THIS ON THEIR OWN, BUT ALL CAMPUSES NEED IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS [INAUDIBLE] ZHANE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F 1.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

WELL, HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD.

HI. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] AND I HAVE BEEN AN RISD RESIDENT AND TAXPAYER SINCE 1995.

IN 27 YEARS, WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS DRASTIC INCREASE IN HOME APPRAISALS.

WITH THE CURRENT INFLATION, HIGH, HOME PRICES AND TALKS OF RECESSION.

I WANT TO ASK RISD BOARD TO CONSIDER HOMEOWNERS SITUATION AND REDUCE THE NET PROPERTY TAX DOLLAR AMOUNT.

WE ARE REQUESTING NOT TO KEEP THE TAX RATE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, BUT TO LOWER IT.

I BELIEVE THAT BETWEEN THE HIGHER PROPERTY VALUATIONS, LARGER NUMBER OF NEW PROPERTIES CONTRIBUTING AND LOWER NUMBER OF STUDENT ENROLLMENT RISD CAN HAVE A HEALTHY BUDGET EVEN WITH REDUCED RATES.

I HOPE RISD WILL DO WHAT MOST CITIZENS DO WHEN COSTS GO UP AND INCOME STAYS THE SAME.

TIGHTEN THE BELT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS SHAWNA CUNNINGHAM SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F ONE.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

SHAWNA CUNNINGHAM.

OKAY. NEXT IS JACK CHILES SPEAKING AGENDA ITEM D 4 AND F 1.

AND YOU DO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

INDEED. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE BUDGET.

WE ALL KNOW THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND DESPITE THE HIGHER PROPERTY VALUATIONS WHICH ARE IN FACT DRIVEN BECAUSE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE. WELL, IF THEY MOVE HERE, WE GROW AND WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES IN ORDER TO FUND THAT GROWTH.

THAT GROWTH ALSO BRINGS WITH IT MORE PEOPLE, WHICH REQUIRES MORE STAFF, WHICH REQUIRED MEANS THAT THE DISTRICT WILL HAVE TO COVER MORE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR

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SO HERE'S THE THING.

THESE EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE PAID A LIVING WAGE.

WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? IT COMES FROM TAXES.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT TAXES, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SCHOOLS BEING UNDERSTAFFED, UNDERMANNED WHEN YOUR KIDS IN SPECIAL ED DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY AMOUNT OF STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THEIR DAY GOES SMOOTH AND THEY LEARN AS THEY SHOULD.

NEEDLESS TO SAY.

MONEY IS TIGHT.

SO, YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY TIGHTEN OUR BELTS IN A FEW AREAS, NAMELY UNNECESSARY LITIGATION CAUSED BY CERTAIN DISTRICT TRUSTEES AND THEIR LIEUTENANTS, INCLUDING THIS AFTERNOON'S LAWSUIT BY TWO PREVIOUSLY ARRESTED INDIVIDUALS.

AND WE CAN IGNORE THE EFFORTS OF GROUPS LIKE MOMS FOR LIBERTY FOCUS ON EDUCATION AND THE [INAUDIBLE] FUNDED STATE POLICY NETWORK TO PIT TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATION AGAINST EACH OTHER. WE WON'T GET ANYTHING DONE IF WE LISTEN TO THEM.

30 SECONDS.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

IT'S VERY CLEAN.

CREATE A PLAN, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, AND REALIZE THAT NO MATTER WHAT, IF YOU WANT SERVICES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TAXES.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE AMOUNT YOU'RE PAYING PROTEST WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY, NOT THE DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS JULIAN JONES.

YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU'RE A TEACHER AND YOU ARE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM F 1.

YEAH. CAN HEAR ME. YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD. YEAH.

MY NAME IS JULIAN JONES, AND I'M A SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

FIRST OFF, SHOUT OUT TO ALL OF MY STUDENTS PRACTICING THEIR CIVIC DUTIES.

COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD AS A SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER.

TALKING ABOUT OUR CAMPUS SAFETY, SPACE AND EQUITY.

SO SAFETY FOR THOSE YOU DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS ONLY PORTABLES.

WE DON'T HAVE CONTROLLED ACCESS POINTS LIKE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS.

THE ONLY PORTABLE THAT DOES HAVE CONTROLLED ACCESS IS THE ADMIN PORTABLE, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC CAN WALK STRAIGHT UP TO MY CLASSROOM, GO INTO THE CAFETERIA, OR GO DIRECTLY INTO STUDENT RESTROOMS WITHOUT HAVING TO BYPASS OR GO THROUGH THE ADMIN CHECKPOINT.

SAFETY. MY STUDENTS WERE TALKING ABOUT WEATHER WISE, WE JUST HAD A TORNADO HERE.

WHENEVER OUR STUDENTS ARE IN PASSING PERIODS, THEY HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE RAIN.

IF IT'S RAINING TOO HARD, THEN OUR STUDENTS HAVE TO STAY IN THE CLASSROOMS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE LOSING ON OUR SEAT TIME.

SPACE. WE'VE OUTGROWN OUR SPACE SINCE 2018.

STARTED WITH SIX PORTABLES.

NEXT YEAR WE'VE GOT EIGHT PORTABLES.

WE'RE JUST OUT OF IT.

ALL TEACHER CLASSROOMS HAVE BASICALLY TWO TEACHER DESKS IN THERE.

WE HAVE 30 STUDENTS IN THERE AND A HALF A PORTABLE.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO TEACH EQUITABLY.

CONFERENCE PERIODS FOR TEACHERS.

WE DON'T GET OUR OWN CLASSROOMS FOR OUR CONFERENCE PERIODS.

WE HAVE TO GO TO ACC CAMPUS ROOM ABOUT 5 TO 7 MINUTES AWAY.

TAKES PART OF MY TIME CONTACTING PARENTS AND GRADING AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, IS A DISTRICT FULFILLING ITS PROMISE TO EQUITY? PRETTY MUCH A RESOUNDING NO FROM THE ECHS VIEWPOINT.

EQUITY BEGINS WITH A SAFE CAMPUS.

I THINK THE DISTRICT NEEDS TO PUT THAT AND KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OUR STUDENTS AREN'T AS SAFE AS OTHER COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THINK LIKE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE LEFT OUT.

WE HAD SOME ARCHITECTS TALK TO US LAST YEAR, GOT OUR HOPES UP, AND NOW EVERYTHING'S FALLEN FLAT.

OUR CAMPUS, IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT IF WE'RE THINKING OF EQUITY.

YOU HAVE TO BUILD A NEW CAMPUS FOR ECHS, PERIOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TWO PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T RESPOND, SIRI BANDUM AND SHAWNA CUNNINGHAM.

ARE EITHER OF YOU ONLINE FOR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS YET? NO. OKAY. THAT TAKES US.

MR. WOOLSTON. DO WE HAVE OUR.

NO. INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT OKAY.

[D. CLOSED SESSION (Part 1 of 3)]

THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER ISSUING NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL TO THE CHAPTER 21 TERM CONTRACT TEACHERS.

WE WILL BE HOLDING CLOSED SESSION IN THIS ROOM, SO WE'LL BE ASKING EVERYONE TO LEAVE.

AFTER WE DO THIS ONE AGENDA ITEM, WE WILL COME BACK AND SEE IF WE GO TO D ONE.

IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO DISCUSSION ITEMS F 1 AND F 2, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE REST OF CLOSED SESSION.

IT IS 5:55 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THEN I MOVED TO ACCEPT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATION AND TO PROPOSE NON-RENEWAL OF THE TERM CONTRACTS OF THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEE REBECCA PARDUE AND I MOVE

[E. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS (Part 1 of 3)]

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BEFORE VOTING ON THIS MOTION, THE BOARD CONSIDERED A DRAFT OF THE LETTER TO THIS EMPLOYEE PROVIDING NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL.

THE SUPERINTENDENT REVIEWED WITH THE BOARD THE REASON OR REASONS FOR MAKING HIS RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE EMPLOYEE, AND THE BOARD CONSIDERED THE REASON OR REASONS AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND THAT BY PASSAGE OF THIS MOTION, THE BOARD DIRECTS THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PREPARE FOR THE BOARD PRESIDENT'S SIGNATURE, A FINAL NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL, AND ENSURE THAT THE NOTICE IS DELIVERED TO THE EMPLOYEE NO LATER THAN THE 10TH DAY BEFORE THE LAST DAY OF INSTRUCTION IN THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR.

AND AUTHORIZES INTERIM GENERAL COUNSEL TO CONSULT WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT TO APPROVE THE FINAL NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL AND TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTIONS ARE NECESSARY AND PROPER TO PRESENT THE CASE AND SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL.

I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

CAN I JUST CLARIFY TRUSTEE WEIR THAT'S JUST FOR THAT ONE EMPLOYEE THAT YOU NAMED.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BONE.

YOUR LIGHT IS ON. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

SEEING NONE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATION AND TO PROPOSE NON-RENEWAL OF THE TERM CONTRACT OF THE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEE DOMINGO PEREZ AND I MOVE THAT THE RECORD OF THIS ACTION REFLECT THE FOLLOWING.

BEFORE VOTING ON THIS MOTION, THE BOARD CONSIDERED A DRAFT OF THE LETTER TO THIS EMPLOYEE PROVIDING NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL.

THE SUPERINTENDENT REVIEWED WITH THE BOARD THE REASON OR REASONS FOR MAKING HIS RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE EMPLOYEE, AND THE BOARD CONSIDERED THE REASON OR REASONS AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND THAT BY PASSAGE OF THIS MOTION, THE BOARD DIRECTS THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PREPARE FOR THE BOARD PRESIDENT'S SIGNATURE, A FINAL NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL FOR THE EMPLOYEE, AND ENSURE THAT THE NOTICE IS DELIVERED TO THE EMPLOYEE NOT LATER THAN THE 10TH DAY BEFORE THE LAST DAY OF INSTRUCTION IN THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR, AND AUTHORIZES INTERIM GENERAL COUNSEL TO CONSULT WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT TO APPROVE THE FINAL NOTICE OF PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL AND TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTIONS ARE NECESSARY AND PROPER TO PRESENT THE CASE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED NON-RENEWAL.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS? OK SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5 2.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED.

SEEING NONE.

WE WILL GO BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.0821.

[D. CLOSED SESSION (Part 2 of 3)]

IT IS 6:51 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

IT IS 825.

[E. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS (Part 1 of 3)]

[F. DISCUSSION ITEM]

AZAIEZ. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT FELLER.

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT TIRED OF HEARING US TALKING ABOUT BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT DENNIS IS WITH US TONIGHT AND HE PREPARED ANOTHER PRESENTATION, IF YOU REMEMBER, FROM LAST WEEK.

HE CAME HERE AND TALKED TO US.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPENSATION, BUT ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT THE M&O TAX RATE.

AND HE DID SAY OR SHARE WITH OUR BOARD AT THAT TIME THAT HE'LL BE COMING BACK TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE I&S.

SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO FOCUS ON THAT AND AMONG OTHER THINGS.

SO, DENNIS.

MADAM CHAIR, TRUSTEES SUPERINTENDENT, TONIGHT WE WILL BE GOING OVER THE I&S BUDGET OR DEBT SERVICE AND THE BUDGET FOR FULL SERVICE. BUT BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE RHONDA RHODE AND ELISHA PARKER.

THEY ARE PART OF THE FINANCE TEAM AND WITHOUT THEM, ALL OF THIS WORK WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM.

THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS SHORT, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT AS FAR AS THE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS.

AND FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.

AND TONIGHT HERE TO ASSIST WITH SOME POSSIBLE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE OUR F-18 FROM ESTRADA AND HINOJOSA, TONYA ATKINS AND RUDY MEJIA. AND SO IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE.

WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE I&S BUDGET AND LIKE THE M&O BUDGET THE ESTIMATED PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE BY 13%. AND TONIGHT, WE WILL PRESENT TWO SCENARIOS WITH THE FOLLOWING TAX RATE.

YOU SEE THE .8546 IS THE M&O RATE THAT WE PRESENTED BEFORE.

AND THE TWO SCENARIOS WILL BE THE .24 LEAVING THE CURRENT I&S RATE OR POSSIBLE 0.225 IS A REDUCTION

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THE TOTAL WITH THE CURRENT TAX RATE WILL BE 1.0946.

THAT WILL BE A 3.9 CENT DROP IN TOTAL TAX FROM THIS CURRENT YEAR.

AND IF WE ELECT TO GO TO THE .225, THAT WOULD BE A 5.4 CENT DROP FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THE I&S RATE IS LOWERED BY 1.5.

THERE'S A TYPO ON THAT SCREEN.

I'M SORRY. IT'S ONE AND A HALF PENNIES IT'S NOT 1.75.

THAT'S OUTLINING SCENARIO TWO.

AND IT COVERS OUR DEBT PAYMENT FAR AS INTEREST IN PRINCIPAL AND A $6 MILLION DOLLAR DEFEASANCE PAYMENT.

ALSO IN CONSIDERATION IS OF OUR FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT OUR FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH WAS 101.4 MILLION, BUT THERE'S A $90 MILLION PAYMENT THAT'S DUE THE 1ST OF AUGUST EVERY YEAR. SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT BEFORE WE START COLLECTING REVENUE.

OK. THE LEFT HAND COLUMN IS THIS CURRENT YEARS ADOPTED RATE OF 0.24.

SCENARIO NUMBER ONE IS LEAVING THE POINT .24 I&S TAX RATE.

AND SCENARIO NUMBER TWO IS LOWERING THE I&S TAX RATE TO .225.

SO IN THE MIDDLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS, WE WILL COLLECT 121 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES.

OTHER LOCAL REVENUE, WHICH WILL BE OUR INTEREST WILL BE 25,000 AND 525,000 FROM THE STATE FOR A TOTAL REVENUE OF 121.7 EXPENDITURES FOR NEXT YEAR FOR PRINCIPAL INTEREST DEFEASANCE AND BOND FEES, AS YOU CAN SEE, COMES TO THE 107.6.

SO LEAVING THE TAX RATE AT 0.24, IT WILL INCREASE THAT 101 MILLION DOLLAR FUND BALANCE BY 14 MILLION.

IF YOU LOWER THE TAX RATE TO .225, YOU WILL ADD 6.4 MILLION TO THE TAX RATE.

MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE QUESTIONS ON I&S BEFORE WE GO TO FULL SERVICE OR? BECAUSE THE I&S IS PROBABLY THE MOST.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.

I HAVE ONE LIGHT FROM TRUSTEE WEIR.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER THE MATH.

SO THERE'S 101 MILLION IN THE I&S FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A 90 MILLION DOLLAR, YEAH.

PAYMENT IN AUGUST WHICH IS GOING TO LEAVE US WITH $11 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND YOU SAID THAT'S BEFORE WE START COLLECTING.

SO THIS 14 THAT YOU'RE ADDING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ADDED.

WE'RE GOING TO SIT THERE WITH ONLY 11 MILLION FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF TIME.

YEAH, WE START REALLY COLLECTING IN THE DECEMBER TIMEFRAME, SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PAYMENT THAT WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE UNTIL THE NEXT AUGUST.

BUT KIND OF TO TRUSTEE BONE'S.

I'M SORRY. FEBRUARY. YEAH.

EARLIER. SO WE SIT WITH JUST THIS 11 MILLION IS OUR LOWEST TIME OF THE YEAR.

YES. THIS AUGUST PERIOD.

OKAY. THAT WAS IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR THAT.

TRUSTEE VESSA. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE? GO TO SLIDE SIX, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO.

SO BY MY CALCULATIONS IS IT AND I'M JUST CONFIRMING WITH YOU, IT SEEMS LIKE ABOUT A PENNY OF TAXATION IS ABOUT YIELDING ABOUT $5 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S VERY CLOSE.

OKAY. SO EVEN WITH THE 13% GROWTH.

SO DOES THAT MEAN LIKE LAST YEAR, A PENNY OF TAXATION YIELDED? BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S ON THIS THERE'S NO COMPRESSION.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STATE THINGS.

SO. CORRECT. WE GET MORE PROPERTY VALUE THAN WE ACTUALLY REALIZE ALL OF THAT IN TERMS OF.

SO I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE WHAT OUR PENNY WAS WORTH LAST YEAR AND WHAT OUR PENNY IS WORTH THIS YEAR.

I GUESS WE COULD DO IT REAL QUICK ON THE MATH OVER HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A TAX RATE AND WHAT WE TOOK IN WHICH WE CAN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE.

CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH EACH PENNY OF TAXATION BRINGS IN IS HELPFUL IN TERMS OF JUST UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE PROCESS AND SETTING THE TAX RATE AND WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS.

BUT. SO I HAD ASKED A QUESTION AND YOU SENT IT TO ME.

I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW.

SO IF WE ADOPTED THE 0.225 BASED ON THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, WE COULD FORESEEABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE

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OH OF THAT BEING INSTEAD OF 13% 2 TO 4% CAN ACTUALLY THIS IS REALLY.

6 MILLION. I MEAN, 600 MILLION IS THE CAPACITY.

OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND THEN.

WHAT I HAD ALSO ASKED YOU.

I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE IT READY, BUT YOU'RE WORKING ON IT TO JUST UNDERSTAND.

LIKE WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD? HOW MUCH CAPACITY DO WE NEED TO JUST MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES LIKE NOT EVEN ADD FACILITIES JUST TO REPLACE LIKE ROOFS AND AIR CONDITIONERS AND STUFF? I KNOW OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM, THEY ARE WORKING ON THE FACILITY STUDY AND SO I THINK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY. EXCELLENT. YES.

AND THE TECHNOLOGY GROUP IS DOING THE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE FOR ALL OUR ONE, TO, ONE.

I CAN SAY THAT THE DISTRICT PURCHASED ALL OF THE ONE, TO, ONE AT ONE TIME.

RIGHT. AND SO THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED PRETTY MUCH AT ONE TIME.

BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND ACCORDING TO OUR TECHNOLOGY, THAT WAS $20 SOME MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT WOULD BE IN THE 23-24 BUDGET.

SO YEAH, JUST HAVING AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THESE EXPENSES.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW AS WE SET THE TAX RATE.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING? I MEAN, IF YOU OWN A HOME AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO REPLACE THE ROOF AND YOU GOT TO GO GET A NEW AIR CONDITIONER, THEN YOU TRY TO PLAN IN ADVANCE FOR THAT.

THAT WAS ALL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. JUST TO YOUR POINT, TRUSTEE VESSA, I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE LAST BOND STUDY, WE HAD AT LEAST $400 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE LAST BOND THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.

AND SO WE'RE PLANNING A FACILITIES MEETING FOR EITHER JUNE OR JULY TO REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IN OUR DISTRICT LONG TERM.

SO JUST KEEP THAT ON THE OUTLOOK.

I HAVEN'T HAVEN'T LET Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HARD AND FAST ON THAT, BUT IT IS KIND OF IN OUR PLANS.

NEXT IS TRUSTEE WESTON.

THANK YOU. SO WHEN I SAT DOWN AT THIS MEETING TODAY, THIS DOCUMENT THAT'S TITLED TAX RATE CHANGES IMPACT TO HOMEOWNER WAS SITTING RIGHT HERE.

SO DR. AZAIEZ DID EVERYBODY AT THE DAIS GET THIS? THAT'S CORRECT. MAY I ASK THAT THIS BE ATTACHED TO THE ONLINE AGENDA? IS THAT A FAIR ASK? WE DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT.

AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK, I EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE TAX RATES THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED TO US AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT WILL HAVE ON OUR HOMEOWNERS.

I TALKED ABOUT HOW EVEN THOUGH THE RATE IS GOING DOWN DUE TO THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN APPRAISALS, THE IMPACT ON THE TAXPAYER IS AN INCREASED TAX BURDEN.

I SHARED MY CONCERNS THAT ALTHOUGH IT DOES IMPACT HOMEOWNERS, IT'S ACTUALLY RENTERS WHO SUFFER THE MOST UNDER THE PROPOSED TAX RATES THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED US.

AND I EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

AND I LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT IF THEY WANTED TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS WITH US, THAT THEY SHOULD.

AND IN THE LAST WEEK, MANY HAVE AND MANY HAVE BEEN CONCERNED.

AND I SHARE THOSE CONCERNS.

I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE TAX RATE FOR M&O THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD LAST WEEK.

I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF A HIGHER RATE TONIGHT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LOWER.

WE HAVE DECLINING STUDENT POPULATION AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE RATES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD ARE PRETTY TONE DEAF.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

IN ADDITION, WITH REGARD TO THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE AGREED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA.

I BELIEVE IT'S COMPLETELY MISLEADING.

I BELIEVE IT'S DISINGENUOUS.

YOU'RE SHOWING A $300,000 HOME WITH A STAGNANT VALUE OVER EIGHT YEARS.

A HOME PURCHASED IN 2014 FOR $300,000 TODAY IS NOT WORTH OR BEING APPRAISED AT $300,000.

IT'S DOUBLE AT LEAST.

SO THIS DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF ME, I FEEL LIKE IT'S TRYING TO MISLEAD ME AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S DISINGENUOUS AND I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON?

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IT'S GOT A PROPOSAL HERE SHOWING ME THAT THE PROPOSED TAX RATES THAT WERE PUT IN FRONT OF ME LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK IS GOING TO REDUCE SOMEBODY'S TAXES.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE.

I REALLY I'M WONDERING IF I'M NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT.

BUT I AM LOOKING AT IT RIGHT.

SO I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED BY WHAT I SEE HERE.

AND IT FALLS SHORT OF MY EXPECTATIONS.

IT'S TONE DEAF AND IT'S NOT EVEN REAL.

THESE AREN'T EVEN REAL NUMBERS.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY THESE AREN'T EVEN REAL NUMBERS.

I UNDERSTAND IT IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU OWN THIS HOME, THIS WOULD NOT BE YOUR TAXING INCOME LIKE THE APPRAISAL VALUE WOULD GO UP.

THIS IS NOT YOUR TAX BILL FOR ONE HOME.

AND I THINK THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS IN TWO WAYS.

I THINK YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS CHART OF WHAT THE AVERAGE HOME THAT IS VALUED AT $300,000 ACROSS THE THING.

YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR THE AVERAGE VALUE OF A HOME OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

AND I THINK BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS CAN BE TRUE.

AND I THINK TRUSTEE HARRISON SAYS THAT MANY TIMES THAT TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS DOCUMENT IS TRUE AS TO WHAT THE VALUE OF A $300,000 HOME IS IN THE TAXING ENTITY.

BUT IT ALSO IS TRUE THAT THIS IS NOT ONE PERSON'S HOME ACROSS AN EIGHT YEAR CYCLE.

SO I THINK THAT THOSE TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO A HOME THAT SOMEBODY OWNED IN 2014 AT $300,000 ON THIS DOCUMENT IS PRESENTED TO ME AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AS BEING WORTH $300,000 TODAY.

NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS SAYING.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. IN ADDITION, SHOW ME WHERE I'M GOING TO BUY A HOUSE FOR $300,000 IN ROUND ROCK ISD.

BUT YOUR FIRST STATEMENT'S NOT TRUE.

THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT SHOWING YOU THAT THIS HOUSE IS NOT APPRAISED.

IT IS TAKING A MOMENT IN TIME IN EACH YEAR AS TO WHAT A $300,000 HOUSE TAX BILL WOULD BE FOR THAT YEAR.

WHY? AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT THESE TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.

THESE NUMBERS, OKAY YOU'RE SHOWING THIS DOCUMENT IS SHOWING ME HOW OUR TAX RATE HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.

WHAT IT LEAVES OUT IS THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A HOME INCREASE OVER TIME.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT THESE TWO. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IT DOESN'T ADD ANY VALUE.

AND THAT IS WHY I APPRECIATE, DR.

AZAIEZ THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO ON OUR DISTRICT WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF ME TONIGHT THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A POORLY CONSTRUCTED AND A POORLY PRESENTED DOCUMENT THAT DOES NOT MAKE DECISION MAKING ANY EASIER.

AND I BELIEVE THE DATA HERE, I BELIEVE THIS IS PRESENTED IN SUCH A WAY TO PRESENT FACTS THAT ARE NOT TRUE.

THAT IS MY OPINION.

YOU ARE CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

THIS DOCUMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER LIKE PRESIDENT FELLER WAS SAYING IS NOT TO SAY IT'S THE SAME HOME, IT HAS COST THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. BUT WE ARE IN A BUSINESS.

WE DON'T APPRAISE HOMES.

WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOES, RIGHT? THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SETTING TAXES.

RIGHT. AND SO THIS DOCUMENT, MORE THAN ANYTHING, SHOWS HOW WE DECREASE OUR TAX RATES.

AND NOW, GRANTED, YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND SO THEREFORE FOR MOST OF OUR HOMEOWNERS PROBABLY SEEN AN INCREASE IN OVERALL TAX THAT THEY PAY.

HOWEVER, WE DON'T DICTATE THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE APPRAISAL SYSTEM.

WHAT WE ONLY DICTATE IS THE TAX RATE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TAX RATE, IF WE GO WITH THE LOWEST I&S THAT DENNIS TALKED ABOUT, WILL GO DOWN TO 1.0796. COMPARE TWO YEARS AGO.

JUST TWO YEARS AGO.

RIGHT, JUST TWO YEARS AGO, 2019, 2020.

THAT WAS 1.2348.

THAT'S A DROP OF ALMOST $0.16 IN THREE YEARS.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, THE APPRAISAL WE DO NOT WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S DONE BY THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

WE AS A DISTRICT, WE ARE ADJUSTING OUR TAX RATES AND LOWER IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND TALKING ABOUT YOUR M&O, THE M&O, THAT YOU SAID YOU DISAGREE WITH IT, THAT IS REALLY LIKE DENNIS TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

THAT'S THE LOWEST POSSIBLE M&O ADDING THE FIVE GOLDEN PENNY THAT OUR BOARD APPROVED TO ADD.

AND SO WE CANNOT GO LOWER THAN THAT UNLESS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE STATE ALLOWS US TO GO LOWER THAN THAT.

RIGHT. SO WE CAN TAKE OFF A GOLDEN PENNY.

WE CAN DO THAT. I WAS OPPOSED TO THE GOLDEN PENNY LAST YEAR.

I'M OPPOSED TO IT THIS YEAR.

WE CAN VERY EASILY TAKE THAT GOLDEN PENNY OFF.

WE HAVE THE POWER.

THE APPRAISAL VALUATIONS ARE ACTUALLY NOT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VALUATION AND APPRAISED VALUE OF THEIR HOMES GO UP.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS BOARD HAS ALL OF THE POWER ON WHAT THE TAX BURDEN OF PROPERTY OWNERS

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ALL OF THAT POWER IS RIGHT HERE.

WE SET THE TAX RATE.

PLEASE STOP TALKING WHILE I'M TALKING.

WE SET THE TAX RATE.

WE ARE FULLY EMPOWERED TO SET THE TAX RATE THAT WE SEE FIT.

NOW THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS.

YOU CAN'T GO LOWER. BUT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T MAKE A LOWER M&O TAX RATE THAN WAS PRESENTED LAST WEEK IS NOT TRUE.

WE COULD GO LOWER. WE COULD ALSO GO LOWER ON THE I&S TAX RATE.

AND WHAT IS ALSO TRUE IS THAT THE DOCUMENT PUT IN FRONT OF ME IS SHOWING SOME SORT OF A TREND OF LIKE LESS OF A PROPERTY TAX BURDEN, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.

THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN IS GOING UP ON OUR DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO I'VE NEVER EVEN MET BEFORE WHO HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO ME LIKE CRAZY IN THE LAST WEEK ADVOCATING THAT WE ADOPT A LOWER TAX RATE. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

AND WE ARE WE ARE ACTUALLY.

THE TAX RATE FROM 20 JUST A YEAR AGO, JUST A YEAR AGO ACTUALLY THIS CURRENT YEAR 2021, 2022, THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS 1.21336. THIS AGAIN WITH THE LOWEST I&S THAT DENNIS IS PROPOSING, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 1.796.

SO THAT'S ALMOST FIVE PENNIES LOWER THAN JUST THIS YEAR.

YES. BECAUSE HOUSE BILL THREE FROM THE TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO REQUIRES US AS THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL SKYROCKET, THEY FORCE US BY LAW TO LOWER THE TAX RATE.

THIS ISN'T BECAUSE WE'RE SOME SORT OF GREAT PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE, BUT EVEN WITH THAT LOWER TAX RATE, THE IMPACT ON THE HOMEOWNER, ON THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AN INCREASED PROPERTY TAX BURDEN WITH THE RATE MEANS NOTHING UNLESS YOU BUMP IT UP AGAINST THE APPRAISAL.

YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ONE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER.

AND THE NET IMPACT ON PROPERTY OWNERS FROM THIS IS NOT ONLY AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE I DID IT, I WENT TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, I SAT DOWN WITH THEM.

WE DID RUNS ON DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, IN DIFFERENT PRICE RANGES WITH A DIFFERENT TAX RATES.

AND IN THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE OWNED A HOME HERE, THIS IS WHAT IT'S DONE.

SLIGHT, SLIGHT IN THE LAST YEAR AND TWO WHOA WAY UP HERE.

THAT'S THE REALITY ON THE GROUND.

AND I'M SAYING THAT I DON'T FAVOR THAT.

I'M SAYING THAT WE HAVE ALL THE POWER WITH THE TAX RATE AND I FAVOR A LOWER TAX RATE.

I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FOR TRUSTEE VESSA BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYBODY UP HERE.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE LIMITS ON THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN REVENUE WE CAN TAKE IN THIS YEAR FROM LAST.

AND GIVEN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FLOODING INTO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH THESE TAX RATES.

CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY LIMITS THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN TAKE IN WITH NEW REVENUE? AND ARE YOU CONCERNED BY THE MILLIONS IN NEW REVENUE THAT THESE TAX RATES ARE GOING TO GENERATE FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT? YEAH, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING WE DO NOT CONTROL EVERYTHING, THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM COMPRESSED RATE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO LEVY IN ORDER TO GET ANY FUNDING.

IF WE DON'T IF WE DON'T NEXT YEAR LEVY 80, A LITTLE OVER $0.80, THEN WE DON'T GET ANY FUNDING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

THE VOTERS DECIDED ON BONDS.

WE HAVE TO AT LEAST PAY THE INTEREST IN PRINCIPAL ON OUR BONDS.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CONTROL.

AND WE CERTAINLY COULD REVOKE GOLDEN PENNIES THAT ARE CALLED GOLDEN PENNIES BECAUSE THEY GENERATE MORE REVENUE THAN A TYPICAL PENNY.

THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE.

SO THEY'RE VALUABLE PENNIES.

AND THAT'S WHY TYPICALLY PEOPLE DON'T GIVE THEM UP BECAUSE THEY GENERATE SO MUCH MORE REVENUE.

NOW, YOU BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE OVER TWO AND A HALF PERCENT MORE REVENUE.

WHY IS THAT? IN H.B. THREE, THERE WAS A PART OF IT THAT SAID ONE PART OF THE STATE CAN'T HAVE A TAX RATE THAT'S 10% LOWER THAN ANOTHER PART OF THE STATE. SO THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE WILL BE CALCULATED BY TEA.

THEY JUST SENT OUT AN EMAIL TODAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THAT IS IN AUGUST.

THE FINAL MAXIMUM COMPRESS RATE, IT COULD GO DOWN ACTUALLY.

WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE A DECREASE FROM THE 80 I THINK IT'S WHAT, 84, SIX? SO WE COULD SEE ANOTHER DECREASE.

SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY LIKELY CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE VOTE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT DONE.

THIS IS JUST A PROJECTION.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENED AND REALLY WHERE THE ADVOCACY LIES IS YOU'RE SEEING IN AREAS LIKE AUSTIN, THIS MASSIVE ESCALATION IN PRICES THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE ARE NOT SEEING.

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SO WE SHOULD BE COMPRESSED MORE.

BUT THE 2.5 CORY? RIGHT THAT I'M GETTING THAT WE SHOULD, IF WE WERE JUST TAKING IN TWO AND ONE HALF PERCENT REVENUE, WE WOULD BE COMPRESSED MORE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I ASKED DENNIS ABOUT LAST WEEK.

WHAT WOULD BE OUR COMPRESSED RATE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS LIMITATION OF THE MAX COMPRESS RATE BECAUSE OF THE 10% THING? AND HE SAID HE WOULD WORK ON IT AND GET BACK TO ME BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF ADVOCACY.

IT'S IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF ADVOCACY TO GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE AND SAY WE COULD HAVE REDUCED THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR CONSTITUENTS BY THIS MUCH MORE IF THIS RULE IN HB THREE WASN'T THERE, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS 10% RULE, WE COULD LOWER THE COMPRESS THE RATE MORE. BUT BECAUSE OF THIS RULE IN THE LAW THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED, WE CANNOT DO THAT.

AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY DISTRICT IN THIS STATE WITH THIS PROBLEM.

SO I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION NEXT SESSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS 10% RULE AND HOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIMITING PEOPLE'S YOU'RE TAKING INTO MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF PERCENT MORE REVENUE BECAUSE OF THE RULE.

LIKE, WHAT DO YOU DO THEN? AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK TO LOOK INTO LIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CODE THAT IN THE LAW THAT SAYS IF THE MAX COMPRESSED RATE GENERATES MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF PERCENT REVENUE, WHAT DO YOU DO? LIKE WHAT? HOW DO YOU RECTIFY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO TAKE IN TWO AND A HALF PERCENT MORE, BUT THE MAX COMPRESSED RATE DOESN'T GET YOU DOWN TO TWO AND A HALF PERCENT MORE. WELL, DO YOU THINK THE LEGISLATURE EXPECTS THAT WE WOULD REDUCE OUR GOLDEN PENNIES? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I THINK THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE AT THE LEGISLATURE, IF I CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE NEED HELP WITH THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK ME, HOW MANY PENNIES ARE YOU USING? AND EVEN JUST BY SAYING FIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, YOU GOT THREE MORE.

DON'T WORRY, YOU'RE GOOD.

THAT I MEAN, I DO THIS ADVOCACY ALL THE TIME.

[LAUGHTER] I MEAN, I TALKED TO THE CHAIRS AND THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON EVERY COMMITTEE.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAX MORE AND GENERATE MORE REVENUE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR INCREASING THE BASIC ALLOTMENT THERE.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GIVEN US THE TAXING AUTHORITY TO DO THAT AND THAT IT RESTS HERE.

SO I JUST I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE A DISTRICT IN THIS STATE YIELDING A GOLDEN PENNY BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT ON THEIR M&O BUDGET, THEIR JUST HUGE REVENUE.

THEY'RE CALLED GOLDEN PENNIES THAT WERE OFFERED TO US FOR THAT REASON.

THEY EVEN HAVE A GUARANTEED YIELD.

EVEN IF YOU'RE IN A PART OF THE STATE THAT HAS A VERY, VERY LOW TAX PER PENNY YIELD, THEY GUARANTEE A YIELD SO THAT THOSE PENNIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE SUPER PENNIES, HELPER PENNIES.

YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THE IMPACT ON A TAXPAYER OR ON A PROPERTY OWNER IS WHETHER IT'S THE 79TH PENNY AN THE FIRST 80 OR THE FIFTH PENNY OF THE FIVE GOLDEN.

THE IMPACT ON THEM IS THE SAME.

BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK LIKE THE IMPACT ON THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

I MEAN, THIS IS HOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS SET UP TIER ONE AND TIER TWO.

THEY HAVE TOLD US, I MEAN, IF I WANT TO GIVE AWAY A TIER ONE PENNY, I'M MUCH MORE WILLING TO GIVE THAT AWAY.

[LAUGHTER] RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

LIKE IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

YOU WOULD AGREE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO SET AN M&O TAX RATE OF $0.85? WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT TECHNICALLY WE DO NOT HAVE TO SET IT.

BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD EIGHT AND ONE HALF PERCENT INFLATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE MOST WE POSSIBLY CAN TO RETAIN STAFF, TO HIRE STAFF, TO DEAL WITH EDUCATIONAL LEARNING LOSS, TO IMPROVE OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES, CONTRARY TO REDUCING OUR REVENUE, ESPECIALLY ONE PENNY, WHEN IT'S SUCH A VALUABLE PENNY THAT GENERATES SO MUCH REVENUE.

BUT IT WOULDN'T REDUCE OUR REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR.

IT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF INCREASED REVENUE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.

IT WOULD REDUCE OUR FORMULA ALLOTMENT BECAUSE THE TAX RATE DETERMINED IS A PART OF THE FORMULA.

WHAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED, WE WOULD OUR RECAPTURE WOULD GO UP.

WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO KEEP LESS MONEY PER STUDENT.

WE WOULD HAVE LESS MONEY PER STUDENT TO EDUCATE THEM, LESS MONEY PER STUDENT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, LESS MONEY PER STUDENT TO PROVIDE STAFF COMPENSATION. SO I THINK IT'S UNWISE.

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THERE WOULD BE PROS AND CONS TO DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO PASS AN M&O TAX RATE OF $0.85.

CERTAINLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE, WHICH IS 80.4 CENTS, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TIER TWO PENNIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE DISTRICT IN THIS STATE THAT DOESN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TIER TWO PENNIES.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OUT IN WEST TEXAS THAT HAS A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.

AND THINK THEY MIGHT GET REVENUE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT THEY MIGHT BE AT THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE.

BUT THAT'S IT. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT AND YOUR HONESTY.

THANK YOU, CORY. I JUST WANT TO.

DR. AZAIEZ.

YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAFF, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THE GOLDEN PENNIES ARE ACTUALLY THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY MONEY THAT WE CAN KEEP AS A DISTRICT.

AND FOR EVERY PENNY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $5 MILLION DOLLAR, MORE OR LESS, THAT GENERATES REVENUE THAT GENERATES TO THE DISTRICT.

AND THAT'S MONEY COULD BE USED TOWARDS COMPENSATION.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE USE A LOT OF THAT ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE RAISES THAT WE GAVE LAST YEAR.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON IS SAYING, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE AS FAR AS THE TAX RATE, BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE PROVIDING VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION TO OUR GREAT TEACHERS AND STAFF WHO ARE REALLY LEADERS WHO ARE WORKING REALLY HARD EVERY DAY.

AND AGAIN, 86, ALMOST 86, 85, 86% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TOWARD COMPENSATION.

SO IT'S REALLY GENERATES THAT MONEY THAT REALLY HELPS US, AGAIN, KEEP OUR STUDENTS I'M SORRY, OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF AND OUR LEADERS REALLY HAPPY AND WORKING EXTREMELY HARD FOR OUR STUDENTS.

SO, I MEAN, WE WANT TO CONTINUE BEING A DESTINATION DISTRICT AND I THINK COMPENSATION IS PART OF THAT.

TRUSTEE WEIR. SO THAT KIND OF IS A GOOD SEGUE FOR ME BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT.

ONE PENNY AND THESE GOLDEN PENNIES ARE EACH $5 MILLION DOLLARS.

WE GET TO KEEP ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S $25 MILLION DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO MY QUESTION IS TO TRUSTEE WESTON.

WHAT ARE YOU CUTTING? AND WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO PAY 72.

AND I LOOKED PULLED UP LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND LET ME JUST SAY CENTRAL ADMIN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AREN'T GOING TO GET YOU 25 MILLION.

SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE CUT AFTER THAT? IT'S ACTUALLY 30.

MORE LIKE 30 MILLION.

CORRECT DENNIS? LIKE EACH GOLDEN PENNY GENERATES $5.8 MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE.

OKAY. SO EVEN MORE.

30 MILLION. THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT IF WE GAVE THAT UP.

THEY DID JUST FIND $35 MILLION DOLLARS, THOUGH, IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO.

SO MAYBE WE CAN GET A BRIEFING ON THAT.

AND THAT MIGHT BE THE 35 MILLION THAT WE CAN CUT NEXT YEAR.

YEAH. SO THAT'S ONE IDEA.

THE OTHER THING IS SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING REMOVING ALL FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES, I'M SAYING LIKE ONE THAT'S NOT $25 MILLION DOLLARS OR 30 MILLION.

THAT'S LIKE $5 MILLION DOLLARS, $6 MILLION DOLLARS ACCORDING TO KOBE OR CORY.

THE POLICE FORCE, THAT'S $2.9 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR THAT WE PAY SINCE YOU GUYS, NOT ME, I WASN'T ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, BROUGHT THAT IN-HOUSE.

SO THAT'S 3 MILLION OF THE 5 MILLION WE'RE STILL SENDING PEOPLE TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST CONFERENCES.

WE'RE STILL DOING THIS.

WE'RE STILL DOING THAT. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

YOU CAN'T BE BROKE AND SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT YOU DON'T NEED.

YOU CAN'T BE BOTH.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY SAID THAT WE'RE BROKE.

AND I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IF TRUSTEE HARRISON WAS HERE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMPLETELY NOT HAVING OFFICERS ON CAMPUS AT ANY CAMPUS AT ALL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT AT ALL. WELL, SO WE KNOW THAT ROUND ROCK WON'T DO IT.

WE KNOW THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY WON'T DO IT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE POSTED TO HAVE IT RIGHT.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'VE DOUBLED THE COST.

WE DOUBLED THE COST OF THE POLICE FORCE.

FOR WHAT? I JUST I DON'T SEE THE VALUE THERE.

SO YOU ASK ME, WHAT WOULD I CUT? I WOULD START AGGRESSIVELY GOING AFTER MAKING SURE EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR, JUST LIKE I DO IN MY OWN HOME.

I THINK THOUGH THAT'S WHAT MR. YES. OH THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON HIM AT ALL.

NO. HE'S DONE GREAT WORK.

HE'S SPENT LOTS OF TIME, LOTS OF HOURS WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY COULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER.

AS FAR AS WHAT HE WAS GIVEN THE LATITUDE TO ADDRESS, WE HAVE 3000 FEWER STUDENTS.

WE DON'T NEED THE STAFF FOR 51,000 STUDENTS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WORKFORCE IS RIGHT SIZED.

I ASKED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, IS OUR WORKFORCE RIGHT SIZED? AND I WAS TOLD WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SIT IN THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE MY JOB IN THIS CHAIR IS TO TELL DR.

AZAIEZ HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TO HAVE OR HOW TO DO IT OR THIS AND THAT.

BUT WHAT I AM HERE TO DO IS TO REPRESENT A CONSTITUENCY THAT IS FACING RECORD INFLATION, RECORD PROPERTY TAX APPRAISALS, FOR WHICH I AM ONE OF

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BECAUSE THIS BOARD, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, HAS ALL OF THE POWER IN SETTING THE TAX RATE.

AND WHEN I SEE THIS.

THIS, WHICH IS WHY I'M GRATEFUL THIS IS GOING TO GO ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE.

I'M FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO PRESENT DATA AND INFORMATION TO US AND TO THE PUBLIC.

WE SIT UP HERE AND WE SAY, OH, I LOWERED THE TAX RATE LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DISLOCATE OUR SHOULDER OR SHOULDER PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK FOR THAT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

IF MY PROPERTY, THE HOME THAT I PURCHASED 12 YEARS AGO, IS LITERALLY, WORTH THREE TIMES TODAY, WHAT IT WAS WHEN I BOUGHT IT 12 YEARS AGO.

THESE ARE NUANCED TOPICS.

WE HAVE A CIVIC DUTY HERE, AND WHEN I SEE THIS, I DON'T SEE IN ANY GOOD FAITH.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SHARING.

SO. TRUSTEE XIAO.

USUALLY I DON'T JUMP IN, BUT I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY FOLLOW UP.

TRUSTEE WESTON'S COMMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, SHE DOESN'T SEE THE VALUE OF SENDING STAFF TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

WELL, DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, THINGS YOU DON'T SEE VALUE.

MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE SEE VALUES.

OKAY. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME PROGRAM YOU WANT TO CUT, SOME DEPARTMENT YOU WANT TO CUT, SOME PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE OR WHATEVER REASON.

OKAY, YOU CAN SEE.

MADAM CHAIR POINT OF ORDER. I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.

PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? MY POINT IS, I WOULD ASK THE CHAIR TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE TRUSTEES ARE NOT ACCUSING PEOPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE FALSE.

I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T LIKE SOMEBODY.

I LIKE EVERYBODY.

I'VE SAID IT MORE THAN ONCE AT THIS DAIS.

OUR TEACHERS ARE UNDERPAID.

WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY ON THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER.

WE NEED TO GET MORE MONEY BACK IN THE CLASSROOM.

PLEASE KEEP THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY IN CHECK AND STOP WITH THE PERSONAL ATTACKS.

SO, AS I SAID, THERE ARE THINGS YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

THAT IS WASTE OF MONEY, BUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

PLEASE DON'T INSIST THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.

OKAY. SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT BE WRONG.

ANOTHER THING IS THAT YOU KEPT TALKING ABOUT REDUCE TAXPAYERS BURDENS.

YOU WANT TO REMOVE ONE GOLDEN PENNY, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO LET'S SAY WE REMOVE ONE GOLDEN PENNY.

IF YOU OWN A $1,000,000 DOLLAR HOUSE, YOU BASICALLY SAVE $100 PER YEAR.

THAT IS, YOU REALLY WANT A CHAMPION FOR.

FALSE. AGAIN.

LET ME FINISH.

YOU CAN SAY ALL THOSE FALSE THINGS, WHATEVER STUFF.

OKAY. AND YOU VIEW THIS AS MISINFORMATION, AS FALSE STATEMENT.

I CAN SEE NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES WHAT YOU SAY ON THIS BOARD REGARDING THE TAX RATE, REGARDING THE WHAT WE SHOULD WHAT TAX RATE SHOULD BE SET. MISINFORMATION.

MY VIEW IS [INAUDIBLE] MAYBE YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY.

MY VIEW IS THAT SCHOOL FINANCE IS COMPLICATED.

IF YOU EXPLAIN THERE ARE PARENTS COMING TO ME TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY VALUE IS SKYROCKETING, WHY WE CAN JUST REDUCE THE TAX RATE. IT'S A VALID, VALID ARGUMENT.

YEAH, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN WHY, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY.

LIKE, IT'S EASY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THE SUN IS CIRCLE AROUND THE EARTH RATHER THAN THE EARTH IS COMING FROM THE SUN.

BECAUSE FROM OBSERVATION, IT'S VERY EASY TO CONVINCE IT'S THE PREVIOUS ONE, NOT THE LATTER.

YOU NEED TO KNOW THE BASICS OF SCHOOL FINANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICATED ISSUES BEHIND THE SCHOOL FINANCE AND THE GOLDEN PENNY.

ALL THOSE WERE CAPTURED IN THOSE COMPRESSIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS.

AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW.

THEY ONLY KNOW THAT THE PRICE THEIR HOUSE PRICE IS SKYROCKETING.

AND IN TERMS OF THOSE SAVINGS INTO THOSE EXTRA PAYMENTS, IF WE ADD A GOLDEN PENNY EXTRA PAYMENT.

RIGHT. $100 IS $100.

RIGHT. BUT $100 MAYBE HAVE DIFFERENT IMPACT.

IF YOU FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR TAX RATE IF YOUR TAX PAYMENT IS PREVIOUS YEAR IS $100, YOU ADD ANOTHER $100.

THAT'S DOUBLE THE IMPACT IS DIFFERENT AND TRY DIFFERENT THEN.

BUT AGAIN NOW THIS SITUATION IS YOUR TAXPAYER TAX PROPERTY TAX PAYMENT.

THIS YEAR, MAYBE 10,000 LAST YEAR IS $10,000.

NOW THIS YEAR IS $20,000 DOUBLED.

YOU ADD ANOTHER 100 OR EVEN JUST $100.

PEOPLE PERCEPTIONS, THERE'S $100 DIFFERENT.

AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF ISSUES COME IN PLAY.

RIGHT. SO THIS PAPER THIS TABLE IS VERY CLEAR.

WHAT IT SAYS IS IT'S ABOUT TAX RATE CHANGES.

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AND YOU INSIST THAT THIS IS MISINFORMATION OR PROPAGANDA, WHATEVER THINGS.

THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

I NEVER USED EITHER OF THOSE WORDS AND I WOULD INVITE YOU TO TALK TO THE APARTMENT RESIDENTS BY WEST WOOD HIGH SCHOOL ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN AND THAT THE WAY THAT THEY FEEL IT'S NOT $100 DOLLARS A YEAR.

LET ME FINISHED. YOU ARE UNINFORMED, SIR.

YES, YES. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.

AFTER I FINISHED.

AFTER I FINISHED.

AFTER I FINISHED. NOW, ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD COME BACK TO THE I&S RATE.

AGAIN. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO.

I DON'T KNOW. PEOPLE JUST.

IF EVERYBODY'S PERCEPTION IS WE'RE SPENDING MONEY WISELY.

I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM LIKE ASKING PEOPLE MORE MONEY IF EVERYBODY TRUSTS THE MONEY WILL BE USED WISELY IN TERMS OF THE BOND ON I&S.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME TRUSTING ISSUES.

AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WHY WE SPEND THE MONEY ON THE AQUATIC CENTER.

WHEN WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE CLASSROOM BUILT FOR THE ECHS SCHOOL.

THERE IS TRUST ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I DON'T DISAGREE.

I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF THOSE BUILDING PROJECTS OR WHETHER WE SPEND MONEY.

BUT THE REALITY IS COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IF YOU GO TO A YOU HAVE A FAVORITE RESTAURANT, YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT.

WHAT HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY? NOW YOU GO BACK TO THE SAME RESTAURANT.

HOW MUCH NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY? YOU EVERYBODY EXPECT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AFTER THE COST OF RUNNING THE SCHOOL THE SAME? YOU PAY THE TEACHER THE SAME YOU MAINTAIN THE SCHOOL COST THE SAME.

HAVE YOU GO TO THE HOME DEPOT TO LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THOSE MATERIALS? HAVE YOU TRIED TO RENOVATE YOUR HOUSE TO TRY TO FIND A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE WORK? HOW MUCH DOES IT GOING TO COST? WE CAN KEEP YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY KEEP THE BUDGET AT THE SAME BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND AFTER.

DO YOU THINK IT IS REALISTIC? ARE WE GOING TO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE HAVE A LARGER DEFICIT THAN WE EXPECTED.

WE ARE GOING TO BORROW THE MONEY IF WE DON'T BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY.

THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO AT THAT POINT IS CUT.

NOW, CHOOSE WHICH PROGRAM TO CUT.

EVERYBODY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

YOU MIGHT SAY THIS IS A WASTE OF MONEY.

YOU CUT THIS PROGRAM. I SAY THIS IS WASTE OF MONEY CUT THIS PROGRAM.

NOBODY WILL BE HAPPY IN THE END.

IN THE END. I'M NOT ON THIS BOARD.

NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK.

I'M NOT ON BOARD AS A POLITICIAN.

YEAH. IF YOU GO TO THE POLITICIANS, NOBODY, NO POLITICIAN WILL SAY, I WILL SUPPORT TAX INCREASE.

ALL THE ADVERTISING I SEE IS, OH, THIS I AM A SUPPORTER OF TAXPAYERS.

I CHAMPION FOR REDUCE TAX BURDEN.

THAT'S WHAT POLITICIANS DO.

I'M NOT A POLITICIAN.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT A VOTE.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT. I'M ON THE BOARD AS AN ADVOCATE TO INVEST IN EDUCATION, PUT MORE MONEY INTO EDUCATION.

THAT'S WHAT I DONE. IF IT WAS TO CUT.

CUT, YEAH. CUT THIS I&S RATE.

CUT THIS M&O RATE.

BUT ARE WE.

YEAH. WE CAN SAVE SOME PENNIES LIKE SHORT TERM GAINS.

THIS YEAR OUR PAYMENT IS LOWER.

BUT WHAT ABOUT NEXT YEAR? IF WE REDUCE, FOR EXAMPLE, SCENARIO TWO, IF WE REDUCE BY 1.5 MORE PENNY, THAT'S SCENARIO ONE.

YEAH. SAVE SOME AGAIN, SAVE SOME MONEY.

$1 MILLION DOLLARS, YOU MAY SAVE $100 DOLLARS, BUT COMING THE NEXT YEAR, WE MAY HAVE THE BOND.

THE PRICE TAG OF THE BOND MAY REALLY SURPRISE EVERYBODY HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO FOR THE NEXT BOND NOW GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

IF WE REDUCE I&S RATE BY LARGE AMOUNT, THE NEXT TIME WE'RE GOING TO HIKE THAT RATE, HIKE, THAT RATE IMMEDIATELY.

IS IT EASY TO PASS THE BOND? NOW WE HAVE TO HIKE THE RATE.

IS THAT EASY, SELL? NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO EASILY SELL.

EVERYBODY IS IN A TOUGH POSITION.

WE NEED TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT DECISION WE MAKE, HAVE SOME COMFORTABLE ZONES, NOT PINCH EVERY PENNY RIGHT NOW.

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WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE BUILD, WHY WE SHOULD HAVE BUILT AN AQUATIC CENTER BEFORE WE HAVE BUILT A CLASSROOM, BEFORE WE HAVE EXPANDED SCIENCE THE WAY IT'S BUILT, THE ROBOTICS LAB, THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES WE NEED TO SET.

THOSE ARE THE JOB OF THE TRUSTEES.

WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE SPENDING WHERE WE SPEND MONEY, NOT PENNY PINCHING ON THE INCOME SIDE.

WE CAN HAVE SAVING ACCOUNT, BUT WE CAN HAVE LESS SPENDING AS WE BUDGETED FOR.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME BUFFER COMFORT ZONE, NOT JUST LIKE REALLY DANGEROUS, LOOKING FOR MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY DURING THE PANDEMIC. IT'S JUST A BAD IDEA.

SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN.

WHAT IF? SO, THIS YEAR WE HIKE 4% OF THE SALARY INCREASE.

YET WE SEEMS TO WHATEVER THE AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE.

BUT EVERY DISTRICT IS INCREASING THEIR SALARY.

NEXT YEAR GOING TO NEXT SCHOOL YEAR ARE WE COMPETITIVE? NO, WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE.

[INAUDIBLE] CATEGORY.

WE NEED TO HIKE THE SALARY.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THE SALARY INCREASE EVEN MORE.

DO WE HAVE THE MONEY? IF WE DON'T BUDGET, HOW CAN WE PAY THIS THE PAY INCREASE.

WE NEED TO ANTICIPATE THOSE.

HAVE SOME MONEY BUDGETED FOR THOSE THINGS.

NOT PUSHED TO THE EXTREME.

YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT LIKE.

I REALLY FEEL THAT WE'RE COMING DOWN TO THE POINT.

IT'S JUST POLITICS, IDEOLOGY.

I'M CONSERVATIVE. I JUST WANT TO LOWER THE TAX RATE.

BUT LOOK AT REALISTICALLY, IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO DO THOSE THINGS? I DON'T THINK SO.

WELL, THAT'S THE DEBATE, JUN.

AND I'M ENTITLED TO MY THOUGHTS.

AND YOU MIGHT TALK ABOUT. YOU MIGHT TALK TO SOME APARTMENT RENTERS.

YES, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO IT DON'T SAY THIS IS A MISINFORMATION YOURS.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS. I NEVER SAID IT WAS MISINFORMATION.

MISLEADING. WHATEVER GO BACK AND WATCH THE TAPE.

AND TALK TO THE RENTERS WHO LIVE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND GIVE THEM YOUR PENNY PINCHING SPEECH AND TELL THEM THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY $100 MORE AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT YOU LIKE THE OUT-OF-TOUCH POLITICIAN THAT YOU ARE.

A LOT OF THINGS YOU SAID IS REALLY MISLEADING.

FOR EXAMPLE.

TRUSTEES, THIS IS NOT BENEFICIAL.

WE'RE JUST ARGUING. LET'S TALK ABOUT I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.

BUT ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO CONVINCE EACH OTHER TO CHANGE OUR OPINIONS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO LET'S JUST STATE YOUR OPINIONS AND YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS I&S REPORT AND LET'S MOVE ON, BECAUSE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER IS REALLY NOT GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE.

CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING ABOUT RENTERS? BOARD POLICY DOES NOT ALLOW A BOARD PRESIDENT TO LIMIT DISCUSSION UNLESS IT'S A MOTION OF THE WHOLE BOARD.

SO I'M NOT LIMITING DISCUSSION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS PRODUCTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TALKING ABOUT RENTERS, AND I'M DONE TODAY.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ONE MORE WORD, WHATEVER, NO MATTER WHAT OTHER.

I NEVER ASKED THAT.

YEAH, I NEVER ASKED THAT.

WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT WERE ELECTED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES TO HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS BOARD.

YEAH, BUT I DON'T LIKE BACK AND FORTH ARGUMENTS, BACK AND FORTH ARGUMENT.

SO AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO WIN ANY ARGUMENT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, TALKING ABOUT RENTERS, HOW CAN WE HELP THE RENTERS TO REDUCE THEIR BURDENS? ONE IDEA THE IDEA PUT FORWARD IS, AGAIN, IF WE REDUCE THE TAX RATE SOMEHOW, MAGICALLY, THE RENT WILL GO DOWN.

ABSOLUTELY THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

THE RENT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TAX RATE.

THE RENT HAS TO DO WITH SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO GET IN? WHY THIS APARTMENT IS RENT IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER PART.

IT'S THE SCHOOL.

IF THE SCHOOL IS GOOD.

YEAH, THE RENT IS HIGH.

IF IT IS CLOSE TO WORK, THE RENT IS HIGH.

IF WE REALLY WANT TO BRING DOWN THE RENT MAKE BAD SCHOOLS, NOT THE RENT WOULD REALLY GO DOWN.

MR. COVINGTON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SWITCHING JUST A LITTLE BIT, LOOKING AT THE EXPENDITURES ON THIS SLIDE AND THE $36 MILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST BOTHERS ME.

THAT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO THE WAY I HANDLE MY OWN PERSONAL FINANCES, THOUGH I DON'T LIKE DEBT, I DON'T LIKE TO CARRY DEBT, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T LIKE TO PAY INTEREST ON THAT DEBT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MONEY THAT I DON'T REALLY GET ANY VALUE FOR OTHER THAN JUST GETTING TO BORROW THE MONEY.

AND I LOVE PAYING DOWN OUR DEBT SOONER SO THAT WE SAVE THAT INTEREST PAYMENTS OVER THE LIFE OF THE LOAN.

SO I JUST DID SOME MATH.

IF WE HAVE 101.4 MILLION NOW, THEN WE SPEND 90.

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BUT THEN WE COLLECT 121.6 MILLION AND THEN WE PAY 107.6 MILLION.

WE HAVE THE $14 MILLION DOLLAR EXCESS OF WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE EXCESS THAT'S ALREADY LEFT IN THE FUND.

SO WE'RE LEFT WITH 25.4 MILLION IN THIS ACCOUNT AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT PRETTY CLOSE? I MEAN, GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WHOEVER IS SITTING ON THIS BOARD IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AN I&S BUDGET OF AROUND 25 POINTS, 25.4 MILLION.

IS THAT I KIND OF SEE SOME HEAD SHAKING THAT I MIGHT HAVE DONE MY MATH A LITTLE BIT RIGHT.

YES. OKAY.

SO THAT.

I DON'T LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE $25 MILLION DOLLARS JUST SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT WAITING TO BE SPENT.

SO IF WE WENT WITH SCENARIO ONE AND IF YOU WENT WITH SCENARIO TWO, THEN YOU JUST TAKE 8 MILLION OFF OF THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH 17 MILLION IN THE I&S FUND THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

IS MY MATH PRETTY RIGHT? YES. CAN WE USE THAT MONEY TO PAY OFF THESE LOANS EARLIER? BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR BOND AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BOND DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S GOING TO COME UP.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE CLOSE TO $1,000,000,000 IN DEBT THAT WE'RE CARRYING FROM PREVIOUS BONDS.

AND SO PAYING THIS OFF, LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND MAYBE I DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OTHERS ON THIS BOARD, BUT PAYING OFF OUR DEBT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE DEBT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

IT'S NOT JUST I DON'T LIKE TO LIVE ON BORROWED MONEY.

SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE HAVE 25 MILLION IN OUR ACCOUNT.

IF WE WENT WITH SCENARIO ONE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR DEFEASEMENT IS PAYING EARLY, RIGHT? RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR DEFEASEMENT PAYMENTS NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME, IF WE WENT WITH SCENARIO ONE OR EVEN IF WE WENT WITH SCENARIO TWO BECAUSE IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE MIGHT COULD EVEN DO A BIGGER DEFEASEMENT PAYMENT.

YES. THAN 6 MILLION.

RIGHT. YOU WOULD JUST INCREASE YOUR DEFEASANCE PAYMENT.

COULD WE DO THAT THIS YEAR? SURE. OR IS THAT A SCENARIO THAT LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW COMFORTABLE OR WHAT THE COMFORT LEVEL IS EXCUSE ME WITH THE I&S FUND AFTER WE'VE MADE OUR REQUIRED PAYMENTS, LIKE DO WE WANT TO GET DOWN TO ZERO? THE MONEY WOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE IT'S THE TIMING TO DO THE DEFEASANCE.

THAT'S A LONG PROCESS.

CAN YOU TALK TO ME JUST A LITTLE BIT? I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE INS AND OUTS.

GO AHEAD, DR. AZAIEZ. I CAN TELL YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF DENNIS INTRODUCE THEM, BUT WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS HERE WITH US AND THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US A.

IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU. AND PARDON ME.

I WILL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT I AM NOT A SCHOOL FINANCE WHIZ.

SO BUT I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THE ROUGH NUMBERS TOGETHER AND TRYING TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE IN MY HEAD.

NO. ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST TO REINTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M TANIA ASKINS WITH ESTRADA HINOJOSA AND MY COLLEAGUE RUDY MEJIA IS HERE AS WELL.

SO, YES, YOUR MATH IS CORRECT.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY.

AND WE ACTUALLY ALSO APPROACH IT WITH THE SAME EYES WHEN WE GO TO LOOK AT STRUCTURING BONDS.

WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU IS, ONE, THE LOWEST COST OF FUNDS.

SO WE DON'T WANT IT TO COST YOU MORE THAN IT SHOULD IN BORROWING.

PART OF THAT IS ALSO YOUR RATING.

YOU HAVE A LUXURY OF HAVING TRIPLE-A RATINGS FROM ALL THREE RATING AGENCIES.

NO OTHER DISTRICT IN THE STATE HAS THAT.

THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE DOING ALL OF THIS.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN PARAMETERS.

THEY LOOK AT FUND BALANCES IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

SO TWO IS YOUR FLEXIBILITY.

WHEN WE GO TO A STRUCTURE BOND, WE LIKE TO PUT IN THESE THINGS CALLED CALL DATES AND WE'VE PUT IN EARLY CALL DATES SO YOU CAN DEFEASE BONDS EARLY AND NOT PAY INTEREST.

SO ALL OF THIS THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS THAT DEBT AND IT CAN BE AS MUCH AS IS NEEDED, AS MUCH AS WE COULD COMFORTABLY DO TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN THOSE TRIPLE-A RATINGS.

SO ALL OF THIS GIVES YOU, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CONTROL.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT CONTROL.

YOU HAVE THE FUNDS.

YOU CAN PAY DOWN YOUR DEBT.

THE WAY I WHEN I KIND OF LOOKED AT THIS QUICKLY BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, DEFEASE DEBT AND ACTUALLY SAVE 7 MILLION OVER THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PAYING INTEREST ON THAT.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST GOING TO SIT IN AN ACCOUNT AND DO NOTHING.

IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU CAPACITY SO THAT WHEN YOU GO ISSUE FUTURE DEBT, YOU HAVE CAPACITY TO PAY INTEREST.

AND THEN IF YOUR GROWTH CONTINUES AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND PAY THAT AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO GROW, IT ALLOWS YOU TO

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SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A PENNY HERE OR A PENNY THERE.

THE 5 MILLION WAS CORRECT WHEN I KIND OF RAN THAT IN QUICK BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MATH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ABOUT 5% FOR YOUR AVERAGE INTEREST COSTS.

LET'S SAY THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THAT 5 MILLION IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A CAPACITY REDUCTION.

IF YOU'RE REDUCING BY A PENNY, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE ABOUT 100 MILLION IN YOUR CAPACITY TO ISSUE BONDS.

SO THAT'S JUST SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

SO BASICALLY ABOUT A PENNY, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE UP ABOUT 75 TO 100 MILLION IN FUTURE CAPACITY.

SO LOOKING AT IT THE OTHER WAY, YOU'D HAVE TO GO AND RAISE IT BY THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR CAPACITY IS.

SO IT'S NOT ABOUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE IT TO THE LOWEST LEVEL THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED JUST TO PAY INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL.

IT'S ABOUT HAVING THE FUNDS THERE FOR WHAT YOUR NEEDS, YOUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE, BUT THEN ALSO THE HEADWINDS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER, LIKE INFLATION, LIKE COST OF DEBT GOING UP, YOU KNOW, GROWTH.

IF THERE IS EVER A YEAR WHERE YOU'RE NOT GROWING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

SO YOU MAINTAIN KIND OF I WANT TO SAY YOU ARE THE A-PLUS STANDARD IN THE STATE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT LEADERSHIP, REALLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR AS EVIDENCED BY THAT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST REALLY TO GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY.

SO WHETHER YOU GO WITH SCENARIO ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MONEY TO PAY DOWN DEBT.

AND IF YOU HAVE SCENARIO TWO, YOU MAY HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT INCREASE TO DO FUTURE PROJECTS.

SO IT'S REALLY WHAT ARE YOUR NEEDS AND WHAT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH AND WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO YOU NEED? AND WE CAN BUILD IN A DEBT SERVICE STRUCTURE THAT MEETS YOUR NEEDS IN EITHER SCENARIO.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

I THINK SO, YEAH.

LET ME I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST HEARD, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS ON IT.

BUT I DON'T LIKE DEBT.

I MEAN, I KNOW BONDS ARE NECESSARY TO RUN A DISTRICT OF THIS SIZE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT IT JUST.

ONE OTHER THING JUST TO KIND OF WHEN WE LOOK AT DEBT, WE ALSO HAVE TO MATCH KIND OF THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE ASSET TO THE DEBT.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AND ISSUE 30 YEAR BONDS TO PAY FOR SCHOOL BUSSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO MATCH THE LIFE OF IT.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHO IS USING THE FACILITY OVER THE LIFE OF IT AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.

IT SHOULD MATCH IN THE MATH.

SURE THAT MAKES SENSE.

LAPTOPS AND TECHNOLOGY STUFF NEEDS TO BE SHORTER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO WEAR OUT LONG BEFORE A TEN YEAR BOND COULD BE PAID OFF.

I HAVE TRUSTEE BONE.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO FIRST POINT OUT IS THAT I WENT BACK WHILE THERE WAS SOME TALKING GOING ON AND IN AUGUST OF 2019, WE HAD 50,409 STUDENTS.

THIS WEEK DURING OUR TRAINING, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE HAD 46,849 STUDENTS.

I GOT THE HANDY DANDY CALCULATOR OUT.

THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF A -7%.

WE HAVE LOST 7% OF OUR STUDENTS.

SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SPENDING.

WE'VE LOST 7% OF OUR STUDENTS.

SO THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IF YOU HAVE 7% LESS STUDENTS, THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECREASE SOME COST.

I'M ALSO NOTICING HERE THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A REALITY THAT EXISTS IN THIS BOARDROOM THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON ALL SIDES OF THE AISLE.

AND THAT IS THAT THIS MORNING SOMEBODY POSTED THAT THEY FILLED UP THEIR GAS TANK FOR $100 FOR THEIR VEHICLE.

OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE HEARD IT.

AND WE HAVE TO, AGAIN, EMBRACE WHERE OUR COMMUNITY IS AT.

AND LIKE TRUSTEE VESSA HAS POINTED OUT, WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT POSITION THAN POSSIBLY OTHER PARTS OF TEXAS.

WE HAVE UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH AND ACTUALLY, THAT'S GROWTH IN THE HOME COST AROUND HERE, WHICH IN TEXAS LEADS TO YOUR TAXES. WE NEED TO BE, IN MY POINT OF VIEW, ALL OF US NEED TO BE REALLY AWARE OF THAT.

AND THAT I HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE STUDENTS.

ESPECIALLY OVER IN ANDERSON MILL ELEMENTARY AREA THEY'VE HAD TO LEAVE OUR DISTRICT.

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WE DON'T REPRESENT.

CORY IS LOOKING AT ME LIKE, DO YOU REALLY KNOW? I DO. I KNOW OUR HOUSES.

I KNOW WHERE WE ALL LIVE. I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF YOUR HOUSES.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT SOME PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED WHEN THERE'S COMMENTS MADE ABOUT $100.

WELL, GOOD, LET'S DECREASE IT BY $100 SINCE IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I GREW UP.

$100. A LOT OF MONEY TO LOTS OF PEOPLE.

LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO TIGHTEN THE BELT AND WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THE BELT, IN MY OPINION.

SO WHEN I SEE THIS, THE M&O AND THE I&S.

WHY ARE WE HAVING EXCESS OF $6 MILLION DOLLARS? I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T EVEN.

IT'S SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.

BUT WE'RE ALREADY MAKING, BY THE WAY, WE'RE MAKING A $6 MILLION DOLLAR PAYMENT.

AND THAT WAS JUST I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE CONTINUING THAT, BUT THAT WAS JUST DR.

[INAUDIBLE]. YOU KNOW, WE HAD GROWN A LITTLE BIT.

WE'D HAD SOME EXCESS MONEY.

SO HIS EXPLANATION TO ME LAST YEAR WAS THAT HE WAS JUST MAKING THOSE $6 MILLION DOLLAR EXTRA PAYMENTS.

SO HONESTLY, IF WE MOVE THAT $6 MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT, THOSE ARE PAYMENTS.

AM I CORRECT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT RIGHT? SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WITH THE MINIMUM HERE.

THAT'S A $12 MILLION DOLLAR EXCESS THAT WE'RE WE'RE ASKING I'M GOING TO MY NEIGHBOR AND LITERALLY ASKING THEM IN THIS TIME WHEN IT'S OVER $100 TO FILL UP THEIR TANK OF GAS, TO PAY THE DISTRICT AN EXTRA 12 MILLION IN I&S, I CAN'T DO IT.

AND IF I'M ALSO UNDER THE RIGHT IMPRESSION, AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND CYCLE OF THIS AND I'M LIKE, TRUSTEE FELLER.

THIS IS NOT MY EXPERTISE OF FINANCE HERE.

BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THIS AS LOW AS WE WANT IT, RIGHT? I&S, THE TAX RATE.

AS LOW AS WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO MAKE OUR PAYMENTS.

YES. BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE THE M&O WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A MINIMUM COMPRESSION RATE.

SO MY POINT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE M&O SIDE THAT, BY THE WAY, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, SALARIES COME FROM.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO WATCH.

THIS IS WHERE OUR DEBT SERVICES COME.

AND I GET THAT WE HAVE NEEDS.

BUT I YOU KNOW, AND I HEAR TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'VE HEARD PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE PAY FOR THINGS NOW FOR PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF PAYING DOWN DEBT HERE.

YOU'RE MAKING PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE NOW, THAT ARE PAYING FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE IN THE PAST AND FOR KIND OF PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, $100 MILLION DOLLAR BOND OR WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO GO AFTER.

SO I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ZERO THIS YEAR.

ON M&O.

NOT M&O BUT I&S.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TAX RATE WOULD BE, BUT I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S POINTED OUT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'LL KEEP OUR TRIPLE-A RATING, WHICH THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR OUR DISTRICT.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED 6 MILLION IN EXCESS.

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT OUR DISTRICT IS ONLY ONE TAXING ENTITY WHEN EVERYBODY GETS THEIR TAX BILL.

WE'RE ONLY ONE. THERE'S MANY OTHER TAXING DISTRICTS.

AND WHY WE CAN'T CONTROL THEM, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY TAXING ENTITY.

THERE'S OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD LOVE THIS BOARD TO BE AN EXAMPLE TO THOSE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.

FOLLOW OUR LEAD.

LET'S MINIMIZE TAXES THIS YEAR.

OUR COMMUNITY IS HURTING.

PEOPLE ARE FINANCIALLY HURTING.

PEOPLE ARE OUT SEARCHING FOR BABY FORMULA AND PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT'S PROBABLY COSTING.

WE NEED THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS PEOPLE FINANCIALLY ARE NOT SECURE.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE THIS YEAR.

I WOULD SAY KEEP THINGS AS LOW AS WE CAN.

AND NEXT YEAR, WE CAN LOOP BACK AROUND AND WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT BONDS AND WHAT WE NEED TO GO AFTER, WHATEVER BONDS WE WANT TO GO AFTER.

BUT MY POINT THIS YEAR, I GUESS I WOULD TAKE THE DEFEASANCE MOVE IT DOWN.

WOULDN'T MAKE IT THIS YEAR. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO REALLY HURT ANYTHING THAT WASN'T.

AND BY THE WAY, FROM MY I UNDERSTAND THAT WASN'T PLANNED.

SO. THAT WAS EXTRA.

AND I'M JUST SAYING, THIS YEAR WE'RE NOT DOING EXTRA.

MOVE THAT DOWN.

TAKE THE 12 MILLION.

AND THEN MOVE THE TAX RATE TO WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE.

TRUSTEE WESTON. IS MY LIGHT ON? THANK YOU. WELL, I AGREE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PAIN IN THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF ESPECIALLY I MEAN, EVERYONE, BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PROTECTED BY HOMESTEADS AND THAT IT'S A HUGE PAIN.

[01:30:05]

WE CAN. SO THE PAIN IS COMING FROM THE WAY THE LEGISLATION IS STRUCTURED.

THAT'S WHERE THE PAIN IS COMING FROM.

THAT AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE INCREASES IN APPRAISALS AND ACTUALLY, THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ANTICIPATING IT BECAUSE I SAW IT COMING.

BUT ANYWAY, THEY ONLY PLANNED FOR TWO YEARS.

SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

NOW, THE SOLUTION OF LOWERING THE TAX RATE DOES ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PAIN, BUT IT'S LIKE TAKING TYLENOL.

IT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE PAIN, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM.

WE COULD DO THAT.

AND THAT WILL GIVE A TINY BIT OF RELIEF.

BUT THE REALITY IS IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

AND SO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE WAY THE SCHOOL FINANCE SYSTEM IS STRUCTURED, IT'S NOT BEING RESPONSIVE TO OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.

AND IT'S CREATING A REAL ISSUE, A DIVIDE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROTECTIONS FROM THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND PEOPLE WHO DO NOT.

AND SO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE AND DEAL WITH THAT.

AND ONE OF THOSE ISSUES IS THE COMPRESSION.

I TALKED ABOUT THAT 10% DIVIDE REALLY COMING BACK AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT SO WE CAN COMPRESS THE RATE MORE IN PARTS OF THE STATE THAT ARE SEEING PHENOMENAL GROWTH.

OKAY. THAT IS THERE COULD BE OTHER SOLUTIONS.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE CURRENT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO DOING WHAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF A TYLENOL WITHOUT REALLY IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE STUDENTS AND TO HAVE WHAT WE NEED GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF BOND ISSUANCE.

SO CERTAINLY, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH DENNIS AND THE BOND TEAM TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IIS RATE IS GOING TO COME DOWN EVEN MORE BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE FULL APPRAISALS THAT WON'T COME UNTIL AUGUST. SO IF WE LOOK AT LAST YEAR AS BEING AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO DECREASE OUR I&S RATE BY $0.03 BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE GOT BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO VOTE ON THIS, THE APPRAISALS HAD GONE UP EVEN MORE.

AND THAT ENABLED US TO EVEN COMPRESS IT MORE.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SEE MORE RELIEF THERE.

BUT MY COMMITMENT IS TO TRY TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND HOW WE CAN GO INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, ELECTION SEASON AND SESSION WITH SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO OFFER TO PEOPLE IS, OKAY, I SEE THE PROBLEM.

I'M NOT BLIND TO THE PROBLEM.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU, KNOWING THE SCHOOL FINANCE SYSTEM, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT.

BUT REALLY, IF WE DID THIS, IF WE ADVOCATE FOR THIS, THIS WOULD REALLY DO A LOT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

TRUSTEE WESTON.

OKAY. SO I HAVE A LOT OF NOTES HERE WRITTEN ABOUT BONDS.

SOME THINGS WERE ASSERTED TONIGHT.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH DEBT, BUT YET OUR DISTRICT HAS CARRIED OVER A BILLION OR ALMOST $1,000,000,000 DOLLARS OF DEBT FOR A DECADE.

SO BASED ON RESULTS, WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY COMFORTABLE WITH A LOT OF DEBT.

AND I RECALL WHEN THE LAST BOND WAS BEING DEBATED BY THIS BOARD, I WAS NOT UP HERE.

I WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS, AND THERE WAS.

ACTUALLY, NOBODY UP HERE WAS ON THE BOARD.

RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. BUT MANY OF US WERE WATCHING THE MEETINGS AND THERE WAS AN EFFORT WHEN THEY WERE GEARING UP FOR IT TO START PAYING OFF THE BONDS, NOT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME SORT OF MORAL OUTRAGE ABOUT DEBT, BUT BECAUSE THAT WAS THEN GOING TO FREE UP BEING ABLE TO SPEND EVEN MORE IN THE NEXT BOND.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN SAY ABOUT BONDS.

IN ADDITION, SINCE OUR LAST BOND IN THIS DISTRICT PASSED, THE LANGUAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BALLOT HAVE CHANGED.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF.

TRUSTEE WESTON. I JUST WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL.

WE'RE NOT POSTED ABOUT BONDS.

RIGHT.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WE DON'T GET TOO FAR INTO THE BOND DISCUSSION.

THE BOND WORLD, AS WE HAVE KNOWN IT, HAS CHANGED.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE FOR ANY BONDS THAT GO OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.

WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY DOING OTHER THINGS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

[01:35:09]

AND I WISH THERE WAS A HIGHER LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING.

LAST TWO THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THE SUFFERING, THE ECONOMIC SUFFERING.

MARY MENTIONED IT.

I WAS BUYING GAS LAST WEEK AT A GAS STATION NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE MY OWN CHILDREN ATTEND SCHOOL.

AND WHEN I PULLED UP, I GOT OUT MY CREDIT CARD TO STICK IT IN THE MACHINE TO FILL UP MY CAR.

I SAW THAT THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME HAD BOUGHT ONE GALLON OF GAS.

IT WAS $3.92.

THE PERSON HAD BOUGHT ONE GALLON OF GAS.

THE REASON IS BECAUSE THIS IS A REAL NEGATIVE ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES OUR COMMUNITY IS DEALING WITH.

I DO TRUST OBSERVERS TO DRAW THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD FROM THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TONIGHT AND THEIR SENSITIVITY TO THE ECONOMIC REALITY ON THE GROUND.

THE LAST THING I HAVE IS JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU, DR.

AZAIEZ IS IT OKAY? WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL ADVISER, ESTRADA AND HINOJOSA, AND THE NEXT BOARD UPDATE OR THE UPDATE AFTER THAT, WHATEVER IS MOST CONVENIENT FOR YOU, CAN YOU PLEASE INFORM THE FULL BOARD OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT ROUND ROCK ISD SPENDS ON THIS FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS? COULD YOU DO THAT, SIR? ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN.

TRUSTEE BONE. THANKS.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BONDS, BECAUSE THIS IS THE I&S AND THIS IS WHERE WE PAY OUR OUR DEBT FROM HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT FROM THE 2018 BONDS? AND IS THAT REFLECTED LIKE HOW IS THAT REFLECTED IN THE I&S BUDGET OR WHERE DOES THAT REFLECT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE M&O.

THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT OR.

WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT BONDS AND.

WELL, BECAUSE THIS IS THE REASON I'M ASKING, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE PAY THE PRINCIPAL AND THE INTEREST.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON.

WE'RE STILL PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST FROM PREVIOUS BONDS THAT WERE 10 YEARS AGO.

NO, MY ANSWER WAS GOING TO BE NO, THAT THE BOND IS NOT FOR THE BALANCE OF WHAT'S LEFT IN THE 2018 BOND, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT REFLECTED IN THAT SPREADSHEET.

WELL, BECAUSE. THAT SPREADSHEET IS WHAT'S DUE NEXT YEAR.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON THE 2018 BOND, ALL OF THAT MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT.

IT'S SITTING SOMEWHERE RIGHT THAT WE OWN.

SO WE'RE ALREADY PAID. THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP.

WE'VE ISSUED IT. WE HAVE ISSUED THOSE BONDS.

THAT MEANS WE'RE PAYING ALREADY ON THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.

YES. RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS IS HOW I'M TYING THIS IN, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.

YES. SO WE HAVE ALREADY SOLD ALL THE BONDS? YES. WE HAVE ALL THAT MONEY SITTING SOMEWHERE? WE'VE SPENT MOST OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. LIKE HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY DO WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON IN THIS BUDGET? THAT WE HAVE SITTING SOMEWHERE? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON IT.

WELL, LIKE PRESIDENT FELLER SAY, YOU'RE ALSO PAYING INTEREST ON PREVIOUS BONDS.

SO IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST IS JUST TIED TO THE 2018 BOND.

AND IF I CAN, MAYBE I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

IN TALKING ABOUT PLANNING FOR OUR FACILITY STUDY, WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS REMAINING OF THE 2018 BONDS FUNDS WE ESTIMATED, HOW MUCH PROJECTS WERE GOING TO COST, AND WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA BY THE TIME WE GET TO OUR FACILITY MEETINGS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY UP OR DOWN LEFT IN THAT BUCKET. RIGHT. THE REASON I ASKED THIS.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE A TOTAL ANSWER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE DRAWING OUT OF THAT 2018 BOND MONEY THAT HAVEN'T CLOSED OUT YET. SO WE HAVE NOT SPENT ALL OF IT, BUT SOME OF IT HAS OR A VAST MAJORITY OF IT HAS BEEN COMMITTED THAT HASN'T BEEN SPENT.

OKAY. SO IT DOES MAKE SENSE.

OK. I WOULD ASK THAT WE'RE UPDATED ON HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY IS SITTING SOMEWHERE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED THOSE BONDS.

CAN I JUST SAY IT'S PROBABLY ON THE WEBSITE.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SPREADSHEET, A RUNNING SPREADSHEET OF WHAT WAS STILL OUT THERE ON THE I MEAN, I THINK TERRY KEEPS IT UP TO DATE.

SO YOU CAN I MEAN.

YEAH, WELL, AND CORY IS SAYING IT, IT'S TRUE, BUT IT ACTUALLY CAN GO BOTH WAYS.

AND SO I WOULD JUST I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND IT ALSO SEEMS KIND OF LIKE HIDDEN MONEY TO ME THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE WAITING TO BE SPENT BECAUSE FROM JUST SOME OF THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, PEOPLE MIGHT GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE 2018 BOND IS TOTALLY SPENT AND THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

[01:40:01]

SO PERHAPS, DR.

AZAIEZ, A DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST I HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN A LITTLE WHILE IS A SUMMARY OF ALL OF OUR BONDS WHEN THEY WERE ISSUED, HOW MUCH OF EACH ONE IS LEFT WHEN THE EXPECTED PAYOFF DATE IS? I HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE PAST, BUT IT HAS BEEN A WHILE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO OUR FACILITIES TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I KNOW THAT IN JUST A CONVERSATION LIKE A FIVE MINUTE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MR. WORCESTER WAS THAT THERE WAS PREDICTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEFT IN THE 2018 BOND MONEY.

BUT BECAUSE OF INFLATION OVER THE LAST YEAR, IT HAS EATEN UP THE PREDICTED EXCESS OR NOT ALL OF IT, BUT A PORTION OF THE PREDICTED EXCESS BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH LUMBER HAS COST.

AND YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ALONG WITH OUR.

SO HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING IF WE CAN PLAN FOR THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION AND THAT'S HOW WILL THE NEW HOMESTEAD DEDUCTION AFFECT THIS BUDGET.

DOES IT AFFECT THE BUDGET? WHEN NUMBERS WERE CALCULATED, IT INCLUDED THE HOMESTEAD GOING FROM 25,000 TO 40,000.

OKAY. SO WE ALREADY HAD CALCULATED THAT.

YES. AND THEN I DID JUST WANT TO ECHO AND I DIDN'T DO THIS EARLIER.

I WANT TO ECHO TRUSTEE WESTON'S REQUEST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS DOES SAY IMPACT TO HOMEOWNERS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE AN AVERAGE HOUSE BACK IN 2014 2015 TO A AVERAGE HOUSE TODAY AND WHAT THAT AND WHAT THE REAL TRUE COST IS TO THE HOMEOWNER.

SO IF YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE IN 2014-15 WAS 300,000 AND THEN THE AVERAGE COST IN 2022-2023 IS 400,000. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT TREND BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL COST TO THE FAMILIES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON WAS ASKING FOR.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT TOO.

IT JUST IT'S A WAY FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION AND WELL, WHY I GOT WHAT TRUSTEE FELLER WAS SAYING THAT WOULD JUST BE MORE HELPFUL.

TRUSTEE BONE AND I'M NEW TO TEXAS, SO AND I THINK THIS IS CORRECT, BUT YOU HAVE THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME MAY GO UP, BUT YOUR TAX VALUE CAN ONLY GO UP 10% EACH YEAR.

RIGHT. SO A $300,000 HOME, 10% IN THE NEXT YEAR IS 330, 10% THE NEXT YEAR, 360.

BUT YOUR MARKET VALUE IN YOUR HOME WILL BE WAY MORE THAN THE 360 IN TWO YEARS.

RIGHT? SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE WITH ME TOO.

IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, WE JUST NEED TO I NEED REAL DATA.

SO I NEED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE PERSON IN 2014 WITH A 300,000 HOME PAID THIS.

AND LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 300,000.

WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO PAY ON, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT BY THAT AND JUST TELL US THAT YOU CAN EITHER USE THE AVERAGE HOME OR YOU CAN USE A $300,000 HOUSE WITH THE AVERAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR.

SO I THINK I THINK MAYBE I'M JUST THINKING HERE, BRAINSTORMING.

RIGHT. AND DENNIS MAYBE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE AVERAGE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE.

BUT AGAIN, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT VARIES FROM HOME TO HOME, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT. SO CERTAIN HOMES MAY GO 10%, SOME MIGHT GO 5% DEPENDING WHERE THERE AT.

BUT WE CAN DO MAYBE AN AVERAGE.

RIGHT. EVERY YEAR THERE'S BEEN AN AVERAGE.

YEAH, AN AVERAGE. AND THAT'S HOW MAYBE IN OTHER WORDS, I'M SORRY.

IF YOU JUST WANT TO USE THAT AVERAGE EACH YEAR, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IT WOULD JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND.

AND IT ALSO IS A GOOD COMMUNITY TOOL WHERE WE CAN SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW.

WHEN JUN'S THROWN OUT $100, WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY, WELL, THAT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE, BECAUSE I KNOW ALL WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS OUR OWN HOMES AND I CAN TELL YOU MY HOME TAXES.

WHAT I PAID TO THE DISTRICT IS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

AND THEN JUST TOO I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND DR.

XIAO BECAUSE HE CAN DEFEND HIMSELF, BUT THE MATH HE DID IS JUST ONE PENNY.

SO HE MULTIPLY ONE PENNY TO $100 MILLION I'M SORRY, TO A MILLION DOLLAR HOME.

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT CALCULATION, THAT TURNS OUT TO BE $100, I THINK A YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT, SIR. YEAH.

I JUST DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN.

IT JUST. I DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN BAD FAITH ARGUMENTS.

THIS IS POINTLESS. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO ON TO THE FOOD SERVICE BUDGET NOW, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT.

YES, MA'AM. THE ASSUMPTION FOR THE FOOD SERVICE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.

THE SEAMLESS SUMMER OPTION HAS ENDED WHERE ALL KIDS ATE FOR FREE.

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WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM, WHICH HAS A LOWER REIMBURSEMENT RATE AND LESS STUDENTS WILL EAT, WHICH WILL LOWER OUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES. AND THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE IN THE FOOD SERVICE, $2.4 MILLION DOLLARS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO. THIS COMPARES TO THE 21-22 BUDGET TO THE 22-23 BUDGET.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR OTHER REVENUES GO UP AND OUR FEDERAL REVENUES GO DOWN DUE TO KIDS ARE HAVING TO PAY.

AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE NATIONAL LUNCH PROGRAM.

OUR FOOD SERVICE EXPENSES GOES DOWN AND TOTAL EXPENSES GO DOWN.

AND SO CURRENTLY THE 22-23 BUDGET WILL HAVE A SURPLUS OF $2.3 MILLION THAT WILL ADD TO THE FUND BALANCE.

AND IT'S A CHANGE FROM THIS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET OF 1.9 MILLION.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS HOW THE PRICE OF OUR MEALS COMPARE TO THOSE DISTRICTS LISTED AT THE TOP OF THOSE OTHER COLUMNS.

AND WE'RE VERY COMPETITIVE IN THOSE PRICES.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.

AND THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE A PRICE INCREASE FOR MEALS.

JUST REAL QUICK ON YOUR SLIDE 11, IT SAYS MEAL PRICING FOR 2018, 2019.

I'M SORRY.

IS WHAT YEAR IS THAT? OH, YES, THAT WAS 2018, 19, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO MEAL CHANGES SINCE BECAUSE OF COVID.

SO NO DISTRICTS HAVE CHANGED.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOR IT.

NO. BUT LIKE IF A PARENT WERE TO COME TO CAMPUS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, WOULDN'T THEY? LIKE IF A PARENT ATE WITH THEIR STUDENT.

YES. SO THERE IS A PRICE OUT THERE, BUT IT HASN'T CHANGED, LIKE EVEN IF AN ADULT GUEST WERE TO OK.

SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE SAME PRICING MEALS SINCE BACK THEN.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

YES. TRUSTEE WEIR.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS FOR THE TEACHER BREAKFAST AND LUNCH.

HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH OF OUR REVENUE COMES FROM TEACHERS FOR MEALS? NO, OH NO. IT'S NOT? OH, NO.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULDN'T CHARGE TEACHERS MAYBE FOR MEALS.

IF IT'S I MEAN, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY EAT INTO WHAT IS LEFT AT THE END, WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE TEACHERS GET FREE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH? ALL STAFF OR JUST TEACHERS? WELL, OUR STAFF, YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING ALL STAFF PROBABLY GOES WITH THAT, BUT IF IT'S I DON'T KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BENEFITS TO GIVE TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER AND IT CERTAINLY WON'T EAT INTO THIS FUND BALANCE OR THE EXCESS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

WE COULD JUST OFFER MEALS.

WE DEFINITELY CAN RUN NUMBERS, WE CAN RUN THE NUMBERS.

BUT I ALSO NEED TO CHECK THAT THAT'S ALLOWED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED. I DON'T THINK IT IS.

SO I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN YEARS.

IT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM. THAT'S FINE.

NO, BUT TRUSTEE WEIR.

I MEAN. NO, NO, IT'S ACTUALLY I MEAN, A GOOD SUGGESTION, BUT WE WANT TO LOOK INTO IT.

YEAH, I REMEMBER.

IT'S FEDERALLY FUNDED. SO I THINK MOST LIKELY, ESPECIALLY FOR I KNOW FOR SURE FOR LUNCH, WE WILL HAVE TO, AS A DISTRICT PICK UP THE TAB PRETTY MUCH.

I KNOW FOR BREAKFAST THERE WAS A WAY AROUND IT WHEN SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS STARTED HAVING BREAKFAST IN THE CLASSROOM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THERE WAS A WAY YOU ACTUALLY THE TEACHER IF THEY'RE HAVING IF I'M A TEACHER AND I HAVE MY STUDENTS WITH ME IN THE CLASSROOM EATING BREAKFAST, THEN I CAN EAT BREAKFAST FOR FREE.

RIGHT. VALERIE IS SHAKING HER HEAD.

I THINK THAT'S I KNOW I THINK THEY HAD THAT PROGRAM AT DALLAS ISD WHEN MY STUDENT WAS THERE.

BUT THAT MIGHT BE [INAUDIBLE].

IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT. BUT IT IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM, SO SORRY.

I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON'T LET US DO THAT.

OKAY. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.

AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO THE I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF SURPLUS MONEY SITTING AROUND IN FUNDS AND THINGS AND WOULD LOVE TO RETURN THAT TO OUR STUDENTS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD OFFER BREAKFAST, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT SOME OF OUR HARDEST HIT CAMPUSES LIKE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. NOT THAT IT'S FREE, BUT WE ARE COVERING THE COST.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIKE WE'RE STILL CHARGING THEM, BUT THOSE ACCOUNTS FOR BREAKFAST WOULD COME OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY KIND OF AND BREAKFAST, IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAL OF THE DAY.

BUT I MEAN, JUST.

I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

LIKE, LEGALLY, YOU CAN TELL ME, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU.

I KNOW. THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING.

HUTTO WAS DOING FREE BREAKFAST.

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RIGHT. SO AND THAT'S WHY IF WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE.

SO IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE M&O. IF WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FUND BALANCE OF 2.4 MILLION IN THIS PROPOSED.

YOU CAN'T USE THAT.

HUH? YOU CAN'T USE THEIR FUND BALANCE. THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO COVER THAT COST.

THERE. YOU CAN'T USE THE FOOD SERVICES FUND BALANCE TO COVER GIVING THEM FREE BREAKFAST.

OKAY. BUT YOU CAN USE THE FOOD SERVICES FUND BALANCE TO HELP COVER COSTS INCURRED IN THE FOOD SERVICES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

YES. SO WE BUILT UP THIS FUND BALANCE IN FOOD SERVICES.

AND THEN WHEN THEY HAD A NEED TO REPLACE AN OVEN.

RENOVATE KITCHENS. OR RENOVATE A KITCHEN, THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DRAW THAT MONEY OUT OF M&O TO PAY FOR IT.

WE HAD IT IN THE FOOD SERVICES FUND BALANCE TO PAY FOR IT.

RIGHT. SO BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT FROM PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT, WE SAID WE BUILT UP THIS FUND BALANCE.

YES. NOW WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE THE KITCHEN OVER IT, SUCH AND SUCH PLACE WITH THIS MONEY .

RIGHT. BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN ONLY CARRY FORTH SO MUCH FUND BALANCE.

THEY MAKE YOU SPEND IT DOWN.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF I'M SORRY.

AND THE OTHER THING IS ALSO, I MEAN, WHEN IT COMES WITH THE FUND BALANCE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT NOT TO PAY FOR OTHER STUDENTS BREAKFAST HAS TO COME FROM US.

SO BUT AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK INTO I THINK THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS AND YOU HAVE GREAT QUESTIONS SO WE CAN DO SOME DIGGING AND COME BACK TO YOUR MAYBE SEND A BOARD UPDATE, WHATEVER IS CONVENIENT, I GUESS. TRUSTEE VESSA.

I PUSHED A BUTTON, BUT THEN I JUST CAME IN.

SORRY. NEXT IS TRUSTEE WESTON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WITH ESPECIALLY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WITH LARGE APPETITES IN THE SCHOOLS, ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN VERY NOTICEABLE SINCE LUNCH HAS BECAME FREE WAS THAT THE PORTIONS ARE MUCH SMALLER.

HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING? HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE? WHEN WE GO BACK TO HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT, IF THE ANSWER IS NO, IT'S NO.

BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

OKAY. HAVE NOT.

IF YOU DO OR IF YOUR OFFICE IF YOUR SHOP DOES, CAN YOU SHARE IT WITH US, LIKE IN A BOARD UPDATE OR SOMETHING? YES. BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG TOPIC.

I MEAN, CHILDREN. I SEE CORY NODDING HERE.

THEY'RE HAVING TO BRING FOOD TO SUPPLEMENT BECAUSE THE PORTIONS ARE NOTICEABLY SMALLER EVER SINCE THE MEALS BECAME FREE.

SO THANK YOU, SIR. TRUSTEE BONE.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT ALWAYS IS ASKED IS UNPAID LUNCH BALANCES.

DO WE KNOW? DO WE HAVE AN UNPAID LUNCH BALANCE RIGHT NOW? ARE THERE UNPAID LUNCHES? IT'S ALL FREE.

WE'VE NEVER CARRIED BUT WE'VE NEVER CARRIED IT OVER.

THERE'S NO UNPAID LUNCH BALANCES.

FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, FOR SURE.

I KNOW BECAUSE OF COVID, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISSUED A WAIVER FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SO EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH WAS EATING BREAKFAST.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, LUNCH AND BREAKFAST FOR FREE.

WELL, BUT DO UNDERSTAND, I KNOW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY TOO, THERE IS STILL THINGS THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE STILL TODAY.

I KNOW SOME STUDENTS DO ACTUALLY PURCHASE BECAUSE OF THE LOW FOOD.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW. SO THAT'S IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WE HAVEN'T CARRIED IT OVER.

IT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE ALL GOOD? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

AND THEN SO I KNOW WE CAN'T DO FREE, BUT I MEAN, I AM AGAIN, THIS IS I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WATCH THE MARKETS AND IF YOU KNOW, THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED TIMES THAT WE'RE IN LITERALLY WITH FINANCIALS, I MEAN, WE'RE HITTING RECORDS THAT WE'VE NEVER HIT BEFORE WITH FINANCES IN A BAD WAY.

AND SO I'M KIND OF WITH TRUSTEE FELLER AND WEIR WHERE IF WE CAN'T DO FREE, CAN WE DECREASE THESE BY 5 TO $0.10 AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE 5 TO 10 CENTS OVER TIME? YOU KNOW, IT ADDS UP FOR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES THAT NEED THE MONEY.

I THINK WE ALL FOR THAT.

REMEMBER, THE BUDGET IS ALSO LIKE WE CANNOT HAVE LESS MONEY COMING IN, MORE MONEY SPENDING.

SO IF WE WANT TO SPEND SOME MORE, WE HAVE TO BRING IN MORE MONEY, RIGHT? WELL, SO.

AM I NOT READING THIS RIGHT, THOUGH? BECAUSE IF I GO TO SLIDE TEN AND MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU SAYING WE HAVE 2.4 MILLION RIGHT NOW IN FUND BALANCE? YES. YES.

OKAY. AND SO THEN IF WE HAVE AN EXCESS NEXT YEAR OF 2.4, AGAIN, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE 4.8? ARE WE GOING TO DOUBLE OUR FUND BALANCE IN A YEAR? IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER.

YES, BUT THAT 4.8 MILLION WILL PROBABLY EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE IN FUND BALANCE.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND IT DOWN.

RIGHT. SO ALL I'M ASKING AND THAT'S WHAT AND I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IF WE LOWER THIS BY FIVE OR $0.10.

I NEED TO CHECK ON THE LAW BECAUSE THERE IS A LAW THAT STATES HOW LOW A MEAL COULD BE DUE TO THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES.

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I MEAN, WE ARE 280.

OTHER PEOPLE ARE 270 OR 305.

OTHER PEOPLE ARE TO 295, 260.

I JUST I'M KIND OF I THINK I'M HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF CONSENSUS ON THIS SO THAT WHERE WE CAN GIVE BACK TO OUR STUDENTS AND OUR PARENTS THIS YEAR FINANCIALLY.

I THINK WE HAVE A DESIRE TO DO THAT.

WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK INTO IT.

DR. BONE, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT OUR TRUSTEES ARE SAYING.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN.

WE ALSO IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET, THAT WE ARE GREAT STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.

SO, AGAIN, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

LOOK AT THE NUMBER MILS. SURE. AND 5 TO $0.10 AND HOW THAT DISTRIBUTES OUT.

AND IF RIGHT.

IF THAT IS A DECREASE OF $4 MILLION DOLLARS, WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE'RE AND TRUSTEE BONE I MUST TELL YOU, WE'VE ALREADY SENT THIS BUDGET TO THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY.

SO IT'S BEEN APPROVED ALREADY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE THOSE MEAL PRICES.

OKAY. BUT I WILL CHECK.

AGAIN. I THINK WHAT AND DENNIS IS NEW TO TEXAS.

THAT'S WHY I SAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THERE'S AN APPLICATION, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT YEARLY AND THERE IS A DUE DATE AND WE NEED TO CHECK IF IT GOES IN, IN DECEMBER.

HERE WE GO. AND SO, HOWEVER, AS I SAID, WE CAN LOOK INTO AND SEE IF THERE IS A WAY, MAYBE WE CAN AMEND IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE CAN CHECK. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE IF THERE WAS EVER AN INCREASE, I THINK THE BOARD, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE PURVIEW OVER. YES.

FOR INCREASES THAT WILL COME TO YOU ALL.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ECHO WITH DR.

BONE THAT I'M NOT FOR.

I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE PADDING FOR EMERGENCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT.

BUT I ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIME, I'M NOT LOOKING TO BUILD OUR FUND BALANCES UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO IF WE HAVE TO DO IT TO KEEP OUR TRIPLE-A RATING OR IF WE HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR WHATEVER, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT JUST GIVEN THE ECONOMIC SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN, I WANT TO COLLECT ENOUGH TO COVER OUR BASES.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY I DON'T WANT THIS IS NOT THE YEAR TO GET PADDING, IN MY OPINION.

SO AND THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE] THE OTHER THING I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LUNCHES OR BREAKFAST PRICING, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION THAT THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS ACTUALLY TO PAY OUR STAFF TO PREPARE AND SERVE THE FOOD.

SO I THINK WE SPEND A SMALL MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF ON LIKE I GUESS THE INGREDIENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT REALLY THE MAJORITY IS REALLY IS PAYING OUR STAFF TO PREPARE AND SERVE THE FOOD.

SO AND KEEP IN MIND, EVERY TIME WE GIVE RAISES, THE COST SUPPOSED TO GO UP AS FAR AS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT SOMEBODY WAS SAYING ABOUT THE MEAT GOING TO THE RESTAURANT. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE TO EAT SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE IS ONE IS THAT THE INGREDIENTS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, THE MEAT AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT ALSO HOW MUCH YOU PAY TO THE LABOR.

THANK YOU. SO. SO US KEEPING THE SAME PRICE DESPITE EVERYTHING GOING UP IS ACTUALLY A GREAT THING.

I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING OUR RATES AS FAR AS LIKE FOR LUNCH AND BREAKFAST, YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE XIAO.

CAN I GET CLARITY ON THAT, THOUGH, IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT, SALARIES FOR FOOD SERVICES COMES OUT OF THIS BUDGET AND NOT OUR. WELL, I MEAN, IT GOES INTO THE M&O.

I KNOW. BUT THIS IS THE OH, IT'S TOTALLY THE FOOD SERVICES IS TOTALLY IN THIS BUDGET, BUT IT'S WHOLLY SEPARATE.

YES. SO THERE'S NOTHING IN M&O WITH FOOD SERVICES.

EVERYBODY'S PAID OUT OF THIS.

SO ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE THAT WE COULD GIVE THEM A SMALL RAISE.

IS THAT AN OPTION WITH EXCESS MONEY? WAIT. NOW, WHEN WE SET THE COMPENSATION, WE ACCOUNTED FOR IT GOING TO $15 AN HOUR MINIMUM IN FOOD SERVICES AS WELL.

OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL TAKING CARE OF IN THIS BUDGET.

YES, MA'AM. YES.

THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE XIAO. SO I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS.

THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I'M VERY SURPRISED.

TRUSTEE WEIR HAS THE SAME DUMB IDEA AS I HAD FOR GIVING FREE TO TEACHERS? YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER ABOUT FEDERAL LAWS.

NOT BREAKING FEDERAL LAWS.

THAT'S THE FIRST COMMENT I HAVE.

[LAUGHTER]. THE SECOND THING IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE COST OF SERVING THE MEALS.

WHAT IF THE NEXT YEAR THE COSTS INCREASED BY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT? WHAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN?

[02:00:03]

SO THIS BUDGET IS CONSERVATIVE, BUT IT COULD SWING THE OTHER WAY.

AND THEN YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE A DONATION INTO FOOD SERVICES OUT OF YOUR M&O BUDGET.

OKAY. THE FINAL COMMENT I HAVE IS, YES, WE DO REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT CREATIVE WAYS TO WORK AROUND THOSE POLICIES AND LAWS.

LAWS THAT WE CAN NOW CHANGE.

BUT FROM MY LIMITED TIME ON THE BOARD, I SEE MANY LAWS AND MANY POLICIES.

WHEN THEY STARTED, THEY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS OR GOOD PURPOSES, BUT NOW IT'S JUST BECOME BETTER TO DO THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND ALL THOSE LIKE THE FREE FOR TEACHERS IDEAS.

WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT WAYS TO GET AROUND THOSE LAWS AND POLICIES.

IF IT IS A LOCAL POLICY, CHANGE, THE LOCAL POLICY REALLY WORK ON THOSE THINGS.

THAT ONE IS THE USDA POLICY, THE FEDERAL THINGS.

TRUSTEE WEIR.

I JUST HAD ONE LAST COMMENT BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THE FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH APPLICATIONS WORK WITH THIS, BUT I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG PUSH FOR THAT. I JUST KNOW ON MY CAMPUS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE TITLE ONE STATUS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LOST PEOPLE THAT NEED FREE MEALS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T FILLED OUT THE FORMS. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO AND IT MAY BE AN ISSUE AT OTHER SCHOOLS, BUT I KNOW LIKE AT DEER PARK, WE ARE GOING TO LOSE TITLE ONE STATUS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PEOPLE FILL OUT THE FORMS THAT NEEDED IT BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD FREE MEALS FOR TWO YEARS.

AND SO I JUST AM HOPING AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, BUT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE THAT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED A BIG PUSH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY AT TITLE SCHOOLS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE ON THE LINE TO REALLY GET THOSE FAMILIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FILLING OUT THAT FORM SO WE CAN GET THEM THE MEALS THAT THEY NEED. THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD POINT TRUSTEE WEIR, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THE STUDENTS WHO ARE QUALIFIED FOR FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH BECAUSE THAT HELPS WITH THE LUNCH AND BREAKFAST OBVIOUSLY COST.

BUT ALSO THERE ARE MORE BENEFIT TO THE STUDENTS, RIGHT, THAN THEIR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET A REDUCED RATE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ADVANTAGES.

IF YOU QUALIFY, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CODING YOU THAT WAY IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE A BENEFIT.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACCOUNTABILITY ALSO IMPACTS OUR CAMPUS AND DISTRICT ACCOUNTABILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO AND ALSO FUNDING, I MEAN, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T IDENTIFY OUR STUDENTS CORRECTLY, THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF MONEY, FEDERAL MONEY, MAINLY OR TITLE ONE MONEY THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY LOSE.

AND THAT MONEY COULD BE USED TO ASSIST OUR STUDENTS WHO IN NEEDS AND QUALIFY FOR THOSE SERVICES.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE PUSH PUSH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE NUMBERS AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON.

SO IT IS 10:00.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE FIRST READING OF POLICY.

SO IT IS 10:00 AND WE'RE TAKING A TEN MINUTE RECESS.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS 10:12, AND WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM F 2.

FIRST READING OF THE TASB POLICY UPDATE 118 AND OTHER LOCAL POLICIES TURN IT OVER TO DR.

AZAIEZ AND MR. WOOLSTON. YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT FELLER. SO WE HAVE SOME UPDATES TO SHARE WITH YOU.

THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST READING.

AND SO I WANT TO ALLOW JACOB TO GO OVER IT.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS, EVERYONE.

SO ALL THIS INFORMATION WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

SO ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO STILL BE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME, THERE'S ONE DOCUMENT CALLED THE LOCALIZED POLICY MANUAL UPDATE.

IT'S ABOUT 1000 PAGES LONG.

SO THAT INCLUDES ALL THE LEGAL AND LOCAL UPDATES FOR THIS ONE.

SO I'LL TRY TO READ OUT THE PAGE NUMBERS FOR THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A LOCAL POLICY COMPARISON PACKET, SO IT KIND OF HAS TRACK CHANGES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO FOLLOW, IN MY OPINION, AND IT JUST GOES OVER THE LOCAL POLICIES BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVES.

THE LEGAL UPDATES THEY'RE JUST EXPLAINING WHAT CHANGED IN THE LAW.

SO MOST OF OUR DISCUSSION WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE LOCAL POLICY COMPARISON PACKET.

THERE'S ALSO EXPLANATORY NOTES AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'LL JUST READ, KIND OF GO OVER THOSE BRIEFLY WITH EVERYONE.

I THINK THE BOARD HAD THESE FOR ALMOST 30 DAYS AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY QUESTIONS YET, BUT OBVIOUSLY WELCOME TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO TONIGHT, WE'LL GET THAT BACK TO YOU.

WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK, FIVE ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

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WE'LL GO OVER THOSE AFTER WE GO THROUGH 118.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS OR ANYTHING YET.

DO YOU WANT US TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING? WELL, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT YEAH YOU CAN ASK.

WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY AND YOU CAN ASK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR INDIVIDUAL POLICIES.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOR LOCAL IS CFD LOCAL? AND THAT'S ON PAGE TWO 217 OF THE BIG PACKET.

SO THESE JUST CHANGED FOR RECENTLY ADOPTED AMENDMENTS TO THE FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM RESOURCE GUIDE.

MAKE SOME CHANGES TO WHO THE DESIGNEE IS.

ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE DISTRICT ACCOUNTING PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES.

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH CLUBS AND STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS.

AGAIN, PRETTY MINOR CHANGES.

AGAIN, JUST TO REFLECT THE THE ADOPTIONS OR THE ADOPTED AMENDMENTS TO THAT RESOURCE GUIDE FROM TEA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? AGAIN. WHICH DOCUMENT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? YOU CAN USE ANY OF THEM.

SO IF YOU TRACK ALONG WITH THE C OR SORRY LOCAL POLICY COMPARISON PACKET.

RIGHT, THAT WILL IN MY OPINION, THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO TRACK ALONG WITH.

THAT'S A 30 PAGE DOCUMENT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND YOU JUST POINTED OUT PAGE 22, NO, PAGE 2, CFD LOCAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEP. AND I'M BASICALLY GOING TO GO DOWN THE PAGES IN ORDER.

AGAIN, JUST KIND OF CHANGE SOME REFERENCES TO TEA.

TALKS ABOUT STUDENT CLUBS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

AGAIN, PRETTY MINOR CHANGES TO REFLECT CHANGES IN THAT RESOURCE GUIDE.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS CQB AS IN BOY.

THIS ONE IS BASED ON A COUPLE OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES.

IT CHANGES THE PROVISION ADDRESSING BOARD DELEGATION TO THE SUPERINTENDENT REGARDING CYBERSECURITY TRAINING.

IT REVISES IT TO REFLECT THE ELIMINATION OF THE ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENT EXCEPT FOR THE CYBERSECURITY COORDINATOR.

ALSO GIVES THE SUPERINTENDENT AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR FAILING TO COMPLETE THAT TRAINING.

WE ALSO HAD A FEW RECOMMENDED CHANGES FOR REGARDING THE REPORTS OF BREACHES REGARDING STUDENT INFORMATION AND JUST CHANGE IT TO SAY THE LAW INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO DFE LOCAL.

IT'S REGARDING REVISION, REVISION TO LOCAL POLICY, ABOUT RESIGNATIONS BASED ON A RECENT COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION PROPOSAL FOR DECISION.

SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVE DATE DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

ALSO THE BOARD'S DESIGNEE, TYPICALLY THE SUPERINTENDENT.

IT CLARIFIES THAT HE CANNOT FURTHER DELEGATE THAT ABILITY TO RECEIVE OR ACCEPT RESIGNATIONS.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE BOARD HAS THAT AUTHORITY AND ONE OF THE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES THAT WILL BE REQUESTING IS FOR THE BOARD TO GIVE MR. CURRAN THE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT RESIGNATIONS, WHICH IS THE CURRENT PRACTICE.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE HAVE BOARD ACTION TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL LATER.

MR. WOOLSTON, JUST SO.

SO PRESUMABLY WE WILL OR YOU'RE ASKING THE BOARD OR DR.

AZAIEZ IS ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE ALL OF THESE POLICY UPDATES, WHICH IS AN ANNUAL THING FROM.

YES, THIS IS THE FIRST READING, BUT THAT WILL BE ULTIMATELY AFTER WE HAVE THE SECOND READING AND THEN THERE WILL BE A THIRD BOARD MEETING WHERE THERE'LL BE SOME UPDATES TO POLICIES, IS THAT RIGHT? AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE NOW.

SO THERE'S THE FIRST READING, WHICH IS TONIGHT.

THE SECOND READING FOR THESE WILL BE ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK.

USUALLY WE DO THEM DURING REGULAR MEETINGS, BUT WE HAVE A FEW THAT WE HAVE TO GET DONE BEFORE JUNE 1ST.

AND YES, SO WE WILL, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ANNUAL.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TASB UPDATES EVERY SIX MONTHS ROUGHLY.

SO A LOT OF THESE UPDATES ARE FROM THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SO THE UPDATES FOLLOWING A LEGISLATIVE SESSION ARE TYPICALLY MUCH, MUCH LARGER THAN LIKE.

SO WE'LL HAVE 119 HOPEFULLY SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.

IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SMALL.

BUT YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO RECOMMEND A CHANGE TO A POLICY TO US.

SO CHANGE POLICIES HAVE AN X AT THE BOTTOM TO INDICATE THAT THEY'VE BEEN CHANGED LOCALLY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT IS A LITTLE ODD.

SO THIS ONE IS WE'RE CHANGING IT IN 118 AND THEN SO WHERE IT SAYS DESIGNEE IN THIS POLICY, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY CHANGE THAT TO CHIEF HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICER OR MR.

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I'M JUST SAYING THE POLICY WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE DOCUMENT WILL HAVE AN X ON IT? RIGHT? DO I REMEMBER THAT RIGHT YOU GUYS? BUT OTHER POLICIES AND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING WE MAKE ANY LOCAL CHANGES, IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE MAKING.

IS THIS 30 PAGE DOCUMENT JUST THE POLICIES OUT OF 118 WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING SOME LOCAL CHANGES? CORRECT. AND THOSE LOCAL CHANGES ARE BASED ON TASB'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE EXACTLY LIKE TASB'S MODEL.

THEY GIVE US MODEL LANGUAGE FOR THE LOCAL POLICIES, SOME OF THOSE BASED EXACTLY ON WHAT TASB IS RECOMMENDING.

SO SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN CHANGED FROM TASB'S RECOMMENDATIONS PREVIOUSLY.

SO IT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY.

AND YOU'LL SEE, DANIELLE, AS WE GO DOWN.

SOME OF THEM GO FROM AN X TO AN A.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO A TASB ONE.

AND, YEAH, IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH ONE.

AND ONE LAST THING. WHILE WE'RE STILL IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, THE BOARD DOES HAVE THE SHELL OF WHAT THE MAY 19TH AGENDA WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME FEEDBACK TONIGHT, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD 30 DAYS TO OFFER ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK.

AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK TONIGHT, IT IS ON FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA AS OF RIGHT NOW FOR THE MAY 19TH AGENDA.

YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ARE PART OF 118.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE THAT WE'LL DISCUSS AFTER THIS WILL ALREADY HAVE THESE CHANGES INCORPORATED AND IT WILL JUST AGAIN, HAVE THE MINOR CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER WE GET THROUGH ALL OF 118 AND I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN IT IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE LOOK AT DFE AGAIN.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS EHAA LOCAL AND THIS CHANGES.

WELL, ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW THERE ISN'T CURRENTLY A LOCAL VERSION OF THIS, BUT IT IMPOSES SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE HUMAN SEXUALITY CURRICULUM MATERIALS, INCLUDING A BOARD POLICY ON ADOPTING THOSE MATERIALS.

POLICY IT FOLLOWS THE STEPS REQUIRED BY LAW AND INCLUDING THE BOARD ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION TO CONVENE THE SCHOOL HEALTH ADVISORY COUNCIL TO HOLD MEETINGS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AT A PUBLIC MEETING, AS WELL AS BOARD CONFIRMATION THAT RECOMMENDATIONS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW BEFORE TAKING A RECORD VOTE.

AGAIN, WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH TASB'S MODEL LANGUAGE ON THIS ONE, AND IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.

I BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN THIS SUMMER IN JUNE.

SO THIS POLICY IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH HOUSE BILL 4545.

THIS IS ACTUALLY HOUSE BILL 1525.

1525. YEAH.

THE ACCELERATED LEARNING? NO, THIS IS SHAC.

OH, SORRY. I LOOK, I WENT AHEAD TO EHBC.

SORRY, WE'RE STILL ON EHAA.

1525 WAS JUST LIKE A CLEAN UP BILL.

THEY THREW EVERYTHING INTO IT.

LIKE, IT JUST.

IT COVERS SO MUCH GROUND.

YEAH. I'M SORRY. IT HAD ALREADY GONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE OF EHBC, SO I APOLOGIZE.

NO WORRIES. AND THAT IS THE NEXT ONE.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS BASED ON HOUSE BILL 4545.

SO IT'S REFLECTING THE CHANGES MADE BY THAT BILL.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED THAT A LOT WITH MR. SMITH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THOSE CHANGES MEANT AND WHAT THAT DID FOR THE DISTRICT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF CATCHING UP POLICY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT BILL.

THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE ABOUT IT IS IN THE ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEE, IT SAYS A PARENT COMPLAINT ABOUT THE CONTENT OR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN SHOULD BE FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH FMG.

WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO IMPLEMENT THE REQUIREMENTS OF 4545 SO A PARENT COMPLAINT WOULD NOT LIKE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IT WOULDN'T DO AWAY WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE OF PROVIDING THAT INSTRUCTION.

LIKE I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR, LIKE IF A PARENT'S GOING TO COMPLAIN, WHAT DO THEY? CAN THEY JUST COMPLAIN TO JUST COMPLAIN, BUT THEY CAN'T REALLY REVERSE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE RECEIVE 4545 INSTRUCTION? CORRECT. I CAN I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT.

SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

ESSENTIALLY, THE REQUIRED ACCELERATED INSTRUCTION IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE CORE CURRICULUM THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT STUDENT.

AND PARENTS ALWAYS HAVE A GRIEVANCE PROCESS THEY CAN FOLLOW IF THEY'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH SOMETHING.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S THAT SAME PATH TOWARDS EXPRESSING THAT.

OKAY. I JUST I WANT TO CLEAR ON WHAT PARENTS CAN EXPECT IF THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT 4545, BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT'S WE

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OKAY. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR IF WE NEED TO UPDATE ANYTHING IN THE POLICY BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN'T GRANT SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID THAT WE CAN'T LEGALLY GRANT, BUT IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS.

I GUESS WE WOULD EVALUATE THAT AND DETERMINE IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT WHATEVER REMEDY IS BEING SOUGHT THERE.

SO TEA CAME OUT WITH A RECOMMENDED POLICY IN LATE APRIL.

WHAT POLICY WAS, WHAT LETTERS ARE THOSE? DO YOU REMEMBER? AND HOW DO WE BRING THAT UP FOR CONSIDERATION? SO THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

BUT I WILL SAY TASB IS WORKING ON MODEL LANGUAGE FOR THAT POLICY OR JUST KIND OF GIVING DISTRICTS SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW TO RESPOND OR HOW TO SOME OPTIONS ON IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME OUT WITH THAT RELATIVELY SOON, MAYBE THIS SUMMER IN 119.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT ON THE.

IN 118 YOU MEAN 119 YEAH 119 SORRY.

YEAH. SO, BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO. I MEAN, THE, AGENCY HAS DRAFTED A POLICY.

I ASKED PRESIDENT FELLER TO PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA.

YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS THE MEETING WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME UP FOR ME TO BRING THAT UP.

I'M JUST.

SO I DID. AND THEN MR. WOOLSTON CORRECTED ME AND SAID THAT WE WEREN'T READY TO PUT IT ON THIS MEETING THAT WAS IN THE EMAIL EXCHANGE.

AND HE SAID, ACTUALLY, PRESIDENT FELLER WERE NOT READY TO PUT THAT ON THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE GUIDANCE FROM TASB.

SO THAT WAS IN THE EMAIL STREAM BECAUSE I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN ADD IT ACTUALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO I THOUGHT WE COULD HAVE ADDED IT TO THE APRIL 25TH MEETING THAT WE DIDN'T END UP HAVING QUORUM FOR.

SO I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD IT TO THAT MEETING.

BUT I WAS GIVEN DIRECTION FROM LEGAL THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR DIRECTION ON TASB ON THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED WHAT DO WE NEED FROM TASB? I MEAN THE AGENCY IS PROVIDED UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.

SO IT MIGHT BE BEST IF WE TAKE THAT OFFLINE AND SEE WHEN WE CAN ADD THAT.

I MEAN, AM I CORRECT? VALERIE, WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC POLICY? YEAH. IF IT'S NOT IN THIS POLICY UPDATE.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S NOT IN THERE. WHAT WAS THE POLICY.

BUT MOST OF THESE CHANGES WERE BASED ON THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION, THOUGH, ON THIS, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A GRIEVANCE TONIGHT THAT ACTUALLY ISN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEES. AND I KNOW WE'RE PUT IN A REALLY WEIRD PLACE, BUT I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THESE PLANS.

BUT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, THESE PLANS GET REALLY INTERESTING AND PROBABLY EVEN IN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THESE PLANS THIS YEAR FOR SOME CHILDREN INCLUDED, LIKE THEY HAD TO GO DURING LUNCH TIME AND AND GET INSTRUCTION.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FORCE STUDENTS TO TAKE THEIR LUNCH TIME IN THE CLASSROOM.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING HERE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS LOCAL POLICY.

SO THIS ISN'T LEGAL.

SO WHAT ARE WE I MEAN, HOW DID THE LEGAL TRANSLATE INTO THIS? AND THIS IS TASB LANGUAGE? CORRECT. YEAH. THIS WOULD BE THE TASB THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY RECOMMEND.

SO I MEAN, THE LOCAL POLICIES ARE BASED ON THE LEGAL POLICIES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE DERIVED.

BUT IN SOME INSTANCES, WE DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LOCAL LANGUAGE ACTUALLY SAYS.

A LOT OF THIS IS JUST BASED ON WHAT, 4545 CHANGED.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT SHALL PROVIDE ACCELERATED INSTRUCTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL IF A STUDENT FAILS PERFORMANCE, SATISFACTION.

SO THAT'S REQUIRED, RIGHT? THAT'S REQUIRED BY 4545.

BUT SO I GUESS WHAT DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF.

YEAH, I THINK THIS GOES TO WHAT TRUSTEE FELLER WAS SAYING IS THAT I THINK.

AND MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO GET CLARITY ON THIS BEFORE WE GET TO NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT. WHILE WE HAVE TO REQUIRE IT DO WE HAVE TO FORCE IT ON THE STUDENT IS I GUESS THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT? AND I DON'T. YOU CAN EVEN HAVE THEM.

THE SCHOOLS CAN ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY AN ELECTIVE IF THEY REFUSE.

I MEAN, LIKE WE'RE REQUIRED BY THE LAW TO DO THIS.

AND SO A STUDENT COULD LOSE AN ELECTIVE IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO ATTEND LIKE AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM OR A LUNCH PROGRAM.

I MEAN. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

SO THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW IN THE TEA FAQS AND ALL THE GUIDANCE THAT WE GET FROM VARIOUS GROUPS, THAT IT IS CONSIDERED COMPENSATORY PART OF THEIR CURRICULUM IF THEY WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL ON THE STAAR TEST THE YEAR BEFORE.

SO YOU COULD KIND OF CORRELATE IT TO YOU CAN'T OPT OUT OF YOUR MATH CLASS.

SO BUT WE DO HAVE A GRIEVANCE PROCESS THAT A PARENT OR ANYBODY CAN GRIEVE ANYTHING THAT ESSENTIALLY IS IN PLAY FOR THEIR STUDENT.

AND OF COURSE, THAT'D BE AN INDIVIDUALIZED PROCESS.

AT THAT POINT, I COULD SAY WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING INTERNALLY TO PREPARE FOR THAT IF WE DO GET SOME OF THOSE GRIEVANCES THAT DO COME FORWARD.

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AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT, PART OF WHAT SOMEONE COULD GRIEVE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IF THEY SAY, WELL, I DON'T WANT MY STUDENT TO HAVE TO DO THIS AT LUNCH, OR I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE AWAY ELECTIVE, I WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD GRIEVE.

AND THEORETICALLY, WE COULD LOOK AT HOW THAT PLAN IS BEING IMPLEMENTED AND POTENTIALLY LOOK AT CHANGES TO THAT.

YEAH, I WASN'T NECESSARILY CAUGHT UP ON THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

AND AND HONESTLY, I'M, A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK THAT THIS WE'LL JUST HAVE THE PARENTS GRIEVE ABOUT THINGS.

THAT'S NOT WHERE I WANT TO GO.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR LOCAL POLICIES AND BE PREPARED LEGALLY TO PROVIDE OUR PARENTS WITH WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT THEY CAN'T DO, HOW WE CAN SERVE THEM BEST AND BE PREPARED FOR THAT VERSUS LIKE, OH, YOU'VE GOT TO GO FILE A GRIEVANCE NOW.

BECAUSE WE SAW A DAD IN HERE TONIGHT THAT FIVE MONTHS LATER.

OKAY. WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSED SESSION SO JUST SO WELL WELL, IT TOOK US FIVE MONTHS TO HEAR A GRIEVANCE.

IDEALLY, TRUSTEE BONE IS THE FIRST STEP IN OUR GRIEVANCE POLICY IS TO ATTEMPT A LOCAL RESOLUTION FIRST BEFORE YOU EVEN FILED IT.

SO IDEALLY, WE WOULD HOPE THAT A PARENT WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THIS PLAN IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.

CAN WE. RIGHT.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, THOUGH. AND THAT'S WHY I'D JUST LIKE TO PAUSE HERE FOR A MINUTE.

THIS ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEE RIGHT HERE, FOR ONE THING, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PARENT ANYWHERE IN THERE, WHICH WE LEARNED TONIGHT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE THE PARENT INVOLVED.

IF MY STUDENT WERE TO FAIL MATH OR READING, MAYBE ON THE ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEE, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARENT.

I'M JUST WONDERING, CAN WE THIS IS ALL NEW, 4545.

I THINK LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE OUR PROCESS HERE MAYBE CLEANER OR MORE FRIENDLY TO PARENTS. AND I'D SAY THE PARENT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEE.

YOU KNOW, IN THAT DISCUSSION, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE DON'T WANT GRIEVANCES EITHER, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH INTERNALLY KIND OF THE BEST APPROACH TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING ADDITIONAL UPDATES.

ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT WE THE LAW IS THAT IT'S A COMPENSATORY PART OF THEIR EDUCATION.

AND IT'S THAT'S THE WAY THAT CURRENTLY A PATH IS TO.

RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT I KNOW I HEAR THIS AND I HEAR THAT WE DON'T LIKE THIS, BUT I'M FLIPPING THIS SAYING, PARENTS ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO LIKE IT AND THE KIDS DON'T GET A GRADE ON IT.

ARE WE FAILING THE KIDS.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT IF PARENTS PUSH BACK? I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE SAW IT THIS YEAR.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF IN OUR POLICY WE CAN KIND OF CUT THAT OFF BEFORE WE GET THERE.

AND SO THAT ACROSS THE DISTRICT WE'RE HANDLING 4545 AND THIS DOESN'T GO DOWN.

YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER YOU, MR. SMITH, OR YOU'RE LIKE GOING TO EVERYBODY OR THE PRINCIPALS ARE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE HANDLING THAT.

OUR POLICY DOESN'T HANDLE ACTUALLY WHAT TRUSTEE FELLER WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS IF STUDENTS DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND CAN YOU ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY AN ELECTIVE? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE THAT HANDLED IN THE POLICY.

SO MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN JUST TAKE IT BACK AND LOOK AT IT, SEE WHAT YOU CAN ADD LEGALLY TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO OUR DISTRICT.

YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING OUR THE POLICY TOO RIGID OR GRANULAR BECAUSE USUALLY SOUND LIKE YOU'RE WANTING TO GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE LOCAL POLICY AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY.

IT'S BASICALLY MAKING IT BECAUSE HOW I READ THIS IS YOU HAVE THIS ONE PARAGRAPH AND THEN IT BASICALLY SAYS, WELL, OR YOU HAVE A PARENT COMPLAINT.

I'M SAYING, CAN WE ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE LANGUAGE IN THERE, JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT SOMEHOW GIVES SOME GUIDANCE ON THE PARENTS AND THE PRINCIPALS AND EVERYBODY ELSE OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO.

CAN YOU TAKE AWAY AN ELECTIVE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT HOW YOU KNOW, YOU TELL ME IT'S REQUIRED, BUT LIKE, HOW REQUIRED IS IT? AND CAN WE GO FIGURE THAT OUT? MAYBE WE NEED TO ASK TASB.

BUT THERE'S ALSO ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT Y'ALL CAN MAYBE TRY TO DO INSTEAD OF A LOCAL POLICY WITH PROCEDURES THAT COULD POSSIBLY ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW, OBVIOUSLY.

WE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WOULD WORK WITH OUR PARENTS AND WITH OUR TEACHERS AND OUR STUDENTS.

I MEAN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS OUR FIRST CHOICE IS TO MAKING SURE THAT WE COME UP WITH WITH A GOOD PLAN TO HELP OUR STUDENTS WHERE THE PARENTS, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, EVERYBODY IS AGREED BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT OUR PRINCIPALS AND THEIR STAFF ALSO IT VARIES FROM ONE CAMPUS TO ANOTHER.

RIGHT. AS FAR AS HOW MANY STUDENTS THEY MIGHT NEED THIS ASSISTANCE WITH 4545.

RIGHT. THEIR MASTER SCHEDULE.

RIGHT. MAY VARY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE NEED TO GIVE SOME OUR PRINCIPALS AND TEACHERS AND PARENTS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

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SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE OUR GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS.

JUST TO GO BACK. THIS IS SOMETHING IT'S THE MANDATE THAT WAS ADDED RIGHT ADDED.

AND I WOULD SAY AT LAST MINUTE.

RIGHT. AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT, ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE PARENTS IF THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING.

I MEAN, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE LEGISLATORS.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING KIND OF LIKE FUNDING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE TALKING TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL ABOUT IT.

WE'LL LOOK AT LANGUAGE FOR IN THE LOCAL POLICY OR POSSIBLY A REGULATION WHICH REGULATIONS DON'T COME TO THE BOARD.

BUT WE'LL GET SOMETHING FOR NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE THE SECOND READING TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN, IN CHANGING THIS POLICY FURTHER THAN WHAT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, I JUST APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE WHILE I ALWAYS WANT TO GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO PRINCIPALS, I MEAN WE TALKED TO PRINCIPALS.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY DON'T WANT FLEXIBILITY ON.

THEY WANT GUIDANCE. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR POLICIES COME INTO PLAY.

I MEAN, EVERY PRINCIPAL DOESN'T WANT TO SAY, OH, I CAN TAKE AWAY AN ELECTIVE, BUT YOU CAN'T AT THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY AN ELECTIVE.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND THEN WE CAN MAKE IT AS GRANULAR AS WE WOULD LIKE AS THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE HARRISON'S LIGHT IS ON.

DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POLICY AND PROCEDURE, BECAUSE SOME OF THIS SEEMS LIKE A GRAY AREA, LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE POLICY SHOULD BE VERY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW, EVEN LOCAL POLICY, AND NOT DIVERGE SO MUCH.

BUT WHAT I'M KIND OF HEARING IS MAYBE WE NEED CLARITY ON PROCEDURE, BUT IS THAT OUT OF OUR KIND OF MANAGEMENT VERSUS.

WELL, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, I'M TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE SAME KIND OF GUIDANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH MY TEAM THAT WORKS WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND WE'VE HAD THIS FOR A YEAR NOW.

SO WE KIND OF FULLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WE EXPECT AND THE WAYS THAT WE CAN FIT IT INTO SCHEDULES.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME PARENTS ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.

SO SO WE'LL DEVELOP SOME INTERNAL GUIDANCE HERE WITH EVERYBODY AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING ON 4545.

AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP A LOT.

AND I GUESS WHY I EVEN INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS UP IS AND MR. WOOLSTON REALLY CLARIFIED IT FOR ME WAS A PARENT CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT 4545 AND BUT WE'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED JUST LIKE WE'RE REQUIRED TO TEACH YOU MATH.

BUT WHAT THEY CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE CONTENT OR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

AND SO I THINK THAT RIGHT THERE ACTUALLY ALLOWS OUR PARENTS SOME MORE BUY IN, IN THIS PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE FAMILIES IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THE SYSTEM THAT WAS DEVELOPED AT THE SCHOOL TO SAY, HEY, I REALLY WANT MY KID TO COME TO BEFORE SCHOOL TUTORING, BECAUSE AFTER SCHOOL WE GO TO SELECT BASEBALL EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, OR THREE DAYS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.

AND SO AND I'M LIKE I SAID, I HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T GET TO THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS AND THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL.

BUT JUST KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE FAMILIES TO IF THEY CAN'T WORK IT OUT, WHICH IT HAPPENS, I MEAN, PERSONALITIES AND ALL OF THAT, IT HAPPENS.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR FAMILIES TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE FORMAL GRIEVANCE PROCESS IF THEY CAN'T WORK OUT A MODIFICATION IN THAT THE WAY THAT THE PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED. SO I THINK THAT'S A I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I JUST THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY COMPLAIN THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT, BUT YOU CAN COMPLAIN THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING DONE.

AND. YEAH, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT.

IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW YOU'RE READING THAT SENTENCE IS NOT JUST SAYING YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

GO COMPLAIN. IT'S SAYING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PARENT KNOWS WHAT OTHER POLICY THEY NEED TO GO LOOK AT IF THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT HAS OCCURRED ALREADY.

AND I THINK SOMEBODY POINTED OUT THERE IS AN INFORMAL PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH BEFORE THAT FORMAL LEVEL ONE GRIEVANCE PROCEED.

SO AGAIN, A VAST MAJORITY OF ALL THESE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED BEFORE THEY EVEN GET TO THE LEVEL ONE.

RIGHT. BUT THEN SOME GO TO LEVEL ONE, TWO, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THREE.

BUT AT THAT POINT, IT'S FILTERED DOWN TO A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF ALL THOSE.

AND CAN I JUST POINT OUT THAT THE LEGAL VERSION OF THIS IS 14 PAGES LONG.

THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE LEGAL EHBC LEGAL, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THAT.

AND IT DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY A PARENT CAN CONTEST THE CONTENT OR IMPLEMENTATION OF AN EDUCATIONAL PLAN UNDER F AND G AND BUT IT DOES ACTUALLY SAY THE PARENTS ON THE COMMITTEE, IT HAS A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON IN THE LEGAL VERSION.

I ALMOST LIKE THINK IF WE ITALICIZE THE WORD CONTENT AND IMPLEMENTATION TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE

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AND SO IT'S THOSE TWO WORDS, I THINK, THAT REALLY MAKE IT REALLY STICK OUT AS TO WHAT A PARENT CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT AND GRIEVE.

AND THERE IS A PROCESS IF YOU CAN'T RESOLVE IT, TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

BUT IT'S ABOUT THE CONTENT AND THE IMPLEMENTATION.

OKAY. SO WE'LL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK.

THIS IS FIRST READING, SO WE'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED AND SEE IF THAT LANGUAGE IS MORE AMENABLE AND THAT LANGUAGE IS ON 7 OF 16 FOR THE ACTUAL POLICY.

AND IT'S PAGE 547 ON THE OVERALL ON THE BIG GIANT ONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WHAT ELSE? ON THAT ONE, WE'RE MOVING ON TO EIE LOCAL.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER BILL OR ANOTHER POLICY THAT WAS IMPACTED BY 4545.

WE'RE REMOVING OUTDATED PROVISIONS ON GREAT ADVANCEMENT TESTING AND INCLUDING PROVISIONS ON ASSIGNMENT OF RETAIN STUDENTS, WHICH ARE BASED ON ADMINISTRATIVE CODE PROVISIONS ADDRESSING AGAIN, GREAT ADVANCEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

AND THE STATEMENT ABOUT ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF RETAINING STUDENTS IS RECOMMENDED AS WE RECOMMEND THAT BE DELETED AS ONLY NEEDED IF WE OPERATE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE ACCELERATED INSTRUCTION IS NOW ADDRESSED IN EHBC, WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED.

AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES THAT RYAN WILL GO OVER ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE 118 UPDATES.

OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO FDE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE JUST HAD SOME MINOR CHANGES ON THIS ONE FROM, AGAIN, A STATUTE THAT WAS PASSED LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT CHANGES THE DEFINITION OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND THEN CALLS IT FOR A DISABLED INDIVIDUAL.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES BECAUSE THE POLICY HASN'T BEEN UP SOME LANGUAGE FROM 2009 THAT IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE UPDATE IN THERE IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, FOR ADDITIONAL TRANSFER OPTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO FEA LOCAL I'M SORRY.

AGAIN, A BILL WAS PASSED LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT ALLOWS AN OPTIONAL EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR A STUDENT WHO IS AT LEAST 15 TO BE ABSENT FOR ONE DAY TO OBTAIN THEIR LEARNER LICENSE AND FOR ANOTHER DAY TO OBTAIN THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE OVER 17, NOT UNDER 15.

15. OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE HAVE FEC LOCAL AND THIS CHANGES THIS CHANGE LAST YEAR WHEN CALCULATING THE 90% RULE REQUIREMENT IS HB699 CREATES AN EXCEPTION FOR ABSENCES RESULTING FROM A SERIOUS OR LIFE THREATENING ILLNESS OR RELATED TREATMENT.

SO TASB RECOMMENDS THAT WE DELETE SOME OF OUR POLICY LANGUAGE FOR CHRONICALLY ILL STUDENTS, SINCE WE MUST EXCUSE ABSENCES FOR SERIOUS OR LIFE THREATENING ILLNESS. AND THEN.

I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE MAIN CHANGES IN THAT ONE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON FEC? I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS THROUGHOUT.

THEY'VE CHANGED THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE.

THEY'VE CHANGED THAT. THEY'VE TAKEN OFF WHERE THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN'T DESIGNATE SOMEBODY THAT'S LIKE THROUGHOUT A LOT OF THE POLICY.

DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS? BECAUSE I KNOW IN PREVIOUS POLICY, LIKE SOMETIMES A SUPERINTENDENT COULD HAVE A DESIGNEE AND SOMETIMES THEY COULDN'T.

SO IT HAD BEEN A DISTINGUISHED.

BUT NOW THEY'VE REMOVED THAT ABILITY.

SO DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT'S THROUGHOUT? ON A FEW OF THE POLICIES I KNOW THAT THEY LIKE THE ONE WITH RESIGNATIONS.

IT WAS BECAUSE THEY SAID, WELL, THE BOARD NEEDS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT DESIGNATION.

THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN'T FURTHER DESIGNATE THAT.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK ON THIS ONE.

WHY THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IS REMOVED AND GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE TO DO WITH LIKE STUDENT COMMITTEES AND THEIR FINANCES AND IT TOOK OFF THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT NOW HAD TO LIKE MANAGE THAT.

IT JUST SEEMS STRANGE THAT THEY.

I MEAN, THEY'VE TIED IT ALL BACK TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, NOT A DESIGNEE.

SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHY THAT IS OR IF.

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YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGES IT'S BEEN THROUGHOUT, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING IT UP HERE BECAUSE IT'S HERE.

OK. SO WE HAVE FFG LOCAL.

SO THIS IS AGAIN INCORPORATING ANOTHER POLICY OR LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT CHANGES IT ESSENTIALLY FROM CAUSE TO BELIEVE TO REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE.

AND THEN IT ALSO MAKES A REFERENCE TO THE DEFINITION OF A PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARE, CUSTODY OR WELFARE OF A CHILD HAS BEEN ADDED FOR CLARIFICATION.

AND THEN SOME OF THIS.

THE TRAINING THAT MUST BE IS REQUIRED.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S ACTUALLY LISTED OUT IN DMA LEGAL AS WELL.

SO REAL QUICK ON PAGE ONE OF THREE FOR THAT POLICY, IT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE 48 HOURS TO MAKE A REPORT.

THAT'S LEGAL.

THAT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

YES. IS THAT A CHANGE? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT MENTIONED.

I JUST WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IN MY LINE OF WORK, IT'S LESS THAN THAT.

IT'S LIKE 24 HOURS.

AND IF YOU'RE A IF YOU RECEIVE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING, WE ARE DOWN TO ONE HOUR.

I BELIEVE THAT IS IS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR DISTRICTS.

I CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, THOUGH, AND MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T CHANGED IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE. BUT THAT WAS JUST THE REASONABLE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED.

BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT AND I CAN PROBABLY PULL UP THE FFFG LOCAL OR SORRY, LEGAL AND THAT'S GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT.

THIS IS JUST A THIS IS REAL IMPORTANT WITH ME.

I WOULD ALMOST BE INTERESTED IN TIGHTENING THAT FROM IF 48 HOURS IS THE LEGAL POLICY, IF WE CAN MAKE A STRONGER RECOMMENDATION OF OUR STAFF, HAVE 24 HOURS TO REPORT OR LESS IF THEY SUSPECT A CHILD IN OUR DISTRICT IS A VICTIM OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT OR EXPLOITATION.

I MEAN, EXPLOITATION DOESN'T TYPICALLY HAPPEN WITH CHILDREN, BUT A CHILD, IF ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES BELIEVES THAT A STUDENT IS A VICTIM OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT, 48 HOURS CAN BE A REALLY LONG TIME.

AND YEAH, I THINK WE DEFINITELY STRIVE TO REPORT THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

I JUST PULLED UP THE LEGAL PORTION OF THAT AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS 48 HOURS FROM WHEN A PROFESSIONAL FIRST SUSPECTS ABUSE OR NEGLECT.

BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT OR MAYBE WE CAN ADD IT IN THAT WE WANT THAT THE PREFERRED TIMEFRAME IS AS SOON AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. WELL, OUR TEACHERS, MANDATORY REPORTERS? YES, THEY ARE. OK.

SO THEY HAVE A TIMELINE INDEPENDENT OF THIS TIMELINE.

NOW, WHAT ABOUT A FOOD SERVICE WORKER? WHAT ABOUT A JANITOR? ARE THEY UNDER THE SAME? WHOEVER HAS THE FIRST HAND INFORMATION, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT WITHIN 48 HOURS.

TO PRESIDENT FELLER'S POINT.

YOU KNOW, USUALLY THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? USUALLY THE PRINCIPAL IS USUALLY CALLED IN THE COUNSELOR, POSSIBLY THE AP, AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL BASED OFF IS IF THE CHILD IS IN IMMINENT DANGER.

IF IT'S IMMINENT, YOU'RE GOING TO CALL 911.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T. YEAH.

I'M SORRY. IF YOU'RE MAKING A REPORT TO DFPS.

YES. I MEAN, THE TURNAROUND.

I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S A STATE AGENCY.

THEY ARE OVERWORKED. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

AND IF YOU'RE WAITING 48 HOURS TO MAKE A REPORT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PROCESS.

I MEAN, I JUST TAKE THIS REALLY, REALLY SERIOUSLY THAT IF WE HAVE REASONABLE CAUSE FOR ABUSE AND NEGLECT, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT 48 HOURS. AND I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME.

I MAY NOT HAVE SUPPORT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE OUR POLICY STRICTER THAN WHAT THE LAW SAYS.

BUT I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S LEGAL TO DO THAT.

BUT 48 HOURS IS A LONG TIME.

IF YOU'VE GOT A KID THAT YOU'RE SUSPECTED OF, NOW NEGLECT IS NOT TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT IS AS IMMINENT.

RIGHT. BUT IF A KID COMES TO SCHOOL WITH A BLACK EYE OR WHATEVER AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, DADDY HIT ME, I DON'T WANT 48 HOURS FOR THAT TO BE REPORTED.

AND THAT BUT THAT'S VERY PERSONAL.

LIKE, THAT'S MY MANTRA.

I'M A BIG CHAMPION FOR ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION AND PROTECTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THAT ON IF I HAVE THAT FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD.

BUT I WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

48 HOURS IS A LONG TIME.

YEAH. IT'S TOO LONG. THERE'S SOME PROVISION IN THE LEGAL POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR SOME POSSIBILITY OF SOME REPORTING A TIME FRAME, 48 HOURS OR LESS. THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE, BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND PULL SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE PROVISIONS AND SEE WHAT THAT WE CAN DO.

OKAY. AND THERE'S NO LETTER B CHANGES IN 118.

[02:40:09]

NO.

NO, I'LL JUST SAY THAT FOR ME.

MY EXPECTATION, DR.

AZAIEZ, IS THAT IF ANYTHING THAT'S MAJOR IS REALLY PULLED OUT AND PUT IN FRONT OF US WITH BIG FLASHING RED LIGHTS NEXT TO IT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY EXPECTATION.

THIS IS A 988 PAGE DOCUMENT.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. WOOLSTON IS DOING. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING TO REALLY I DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

IT'S MOSTLY LEGAL THIS TIME.

HE'S LITERALLY GOING OVER EVERY SINGLE LOCAL ONE FOR US.

YEAH, THE LOCAL ONE IS 30 PAGES.

BUT YEAH, THE LEGAL AGAIN, WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

AND THAT'S JUST STATING WHAT THE LAW SAYS.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO GO OVER ALL THE LOCALS, AND MOST OF THEM DO LOOK LIKE THE CHANGES ARE RELATIVELY MINOR.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GO OVER ALL THOSE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE FL LOCAL IS THE NEXT ONE.

SO WE JUST ARE REPLACING OUTDATED REFERENCE TO GRADE PLACEMENT COMMITTEE AND AGAIN CHANGING THAT TO ACCELERATED LEARNING COMMITTEE.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT'S IMPACTED BY 4545.

I DON'T HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE. I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST LOCAL POLICY, RIGHT? YEAH. SORRY. I WAS MAKING SURE MY PAPERS ALL GOT OUT OF ORDER, SO I WAS MAKING SURE THAT WAS.

BUT THEN WE HAVE. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER LIGHTS FOR 118 OR NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

AGAIN, TWO OF THOSE ARE ALSO POLICIES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

SO ACCORDING TO MY NOTES, THE ONLY ONES THAT WE AS A BOARD MIGHT WANT TO LOOK A LITTLE MORE AT WAS EHBC AND FFG.

THE REST OF THEM AS A BOARD.

WE WERE GOOD WITH THE CHANGES.

DID I GET THAT? DID I CAPTURE THAT RIGHT.

BOARD? OKAY. YOU SAID, IS THAT AN ADMINISTRATIVE CONTENT EHBC? EHBC WAS THE HOUSE BILL 4545 DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD.

OH, YOU'RE JUST RECAPPING WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED.

YEAH, I JUST KIND OF RECAP THE LAST 30 MINUTES OF GOING OVER THESE THAT EHBC AND FFG IS JUST REALLY MINOR OF WHETHER WE WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN FROM 48 HOURS.

BUT AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION.

THE FIRST ONE ON THERE IS THE.

NOW WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING THROUGH NOW? THE DFE LOCAL.

SO I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL OH IT WAS PULLED UP.

THERE IT IS.

SO AGAIN, THE COMMISSIONER DECISION ESSENTIALLY CLARIFIED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THE BOARD WHO IS DESIGNATING ANOTHER PERSON TO ACCEPT RESIGNATIONS. SO WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT.

AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK AS WELL AS THE FINAL POLICY.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST NAMING THE CHIEF HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICER.

AND THEN. THERE'S EIE LOCAL.

SO HERE ARE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, EXCUSE ME.

EIE LOCAL HAS SOME CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO OUR K2 REPORT CARD.

SO OUR K2 REPORT CARD LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THIRD THROUGH 12TH.

IT'S A SKILLS AND STANDARDS BASED REPORT CARD.

AND WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR MOVING AWAY FROM A NUMBERED ONE THROUGH FOUR SYSTEM WE HAD BEFORE TO MET STANDARD LIMITED PROGRESS TOWARDS STANDARD OR APPROACHES STANDARD.

SAME IDEA WITH HOW THE TEACHERS WORK WITH THE STUDENTS AND TRACK THEIR GROWTH OVER THE YEAR AND THE DIFFERENT SKILLS BUT JUST CHANGE THE PERFORMANCE LABELS ESSENTIALLY MADE IT MATCH A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH KIND OF WHAT WE'RE USED TO WITH ACCOUNTABILITY OVERALL AS WELL AS THERE'S KIND OF BEEN A TREND IN A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICTS THAT MOVE AWAY FROM THAT NUMBERING SYSTEM TO MORE OF A DESCRIPTOR.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE POLICY IS REALLY REPLACING THE DIFFERENT NUMBERED LEVELING SYSTEM TO THOSE PERFORMANCE LEVELS.

THESE MATCH UP WITH STAAR? THESE ARE VERY I MEAN, IT'S SIMILAR.

IT'S NOT AN EXACT MATCH THIS IS AN APPROACHES LANGUAGE. BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL LIVE IN THE WORLD OF EDUCATION, BUT WE DON'T AND LIKE MEET STANDARD.

I MEAN, AS A PARENT, IT'S LIKE I DON'T.

AND THAT'S A PIECE THAT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB ON IS WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERNAL COMMUNICATION DOCUMENTS AROUND IT FOR TEACHERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THE REPORT CARD. I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY REPORT CARDS ARE COMMUNICATION TOOLS TO PARENTS.

[02:45:08]

YEAH. I JUST I MEAN, THE NUMBERING SYSTEM I GOT USED TO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AND IF THIS ISN'T SIMILAR TO STAAR, THAT'S WHAT I JUST SO ON THE REPORT CARD ITSELF. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, MET STANDARD MEANS EXHIBITS MASTERY OF SKILLS AND CONCEPTS AND IT'S GOT THE SKILLS AND CONCEPTS ON THE REPORT CARD APPROACHING STANDARD MEANS EXHIBIT SKILLS CONCEPT WITH MINIMAL GUIDANCE.

LIMITED PROGRESS MEANS EXHIBIT SKILLS CONCEPT WITH DIRECT GUIDANCE BUT WE COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.

SO THERE'S ONLY THOSE THREE.

WHAT IF YOUR STUDENT IS JUST FAILING, LIKE THEY JUST CAN'T DO THIS? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT, THOUGH. BUT I MEAN, BY SECOND GRADE, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IN READING.

I MEAN, I KNOW EVEN IN FIRST GRADE, YOU KNOW, IN SECOND GRADE, READING WAS SUPER IMPORTANT AND.

BECAUSE I REMEMBER THERE WAS FOUR.

RIGHT. YOU HAD YOU GOT A ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

ONE, TWO, THREE OR FOUR. YEAH.

SO I'D SAY.

CORRECT. YEAH. THERE'S THREE, THREE PERFORMANCE LEVEL.

I SAY THE LIMITED PROGRESS WE SAY THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXHIBIT, THE SKILL WITH DIRECT GUIDANCE.

SO THAT PROBABLY MEANS THE TEACHER IS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE STUDENT.

WALKING THEM THROUGH A CONCEPT OR A SKILL.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.

YEAH, WE'VE BEEN USING THIS THIS YEAR.

OKAY. HAS THERE BEEN FEEDBACK FROM PARENTS? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH FEEDBACK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PERFORMANCE LABELS WORKING WITH CAMPUSES ON HOW THEY SCORE THE STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON IT LIKE WE DO EVERY YEAR AND WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS THE SUMMER COMES ALONG. BUT YEAH, I CAN JUST TELL YOU, I MEAN, MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS THAT YOU'RE MAKING THIS LESS REFINED RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE TAKING. IF I WAS A PARENT, I ONLY GOT THREE CATEGORIES.

IT WAS HARD ENOUGH WHEN IT WAS FOUR BECAUSE USUALLY WE WERE MOSTLY USED TO ABCD OR ABCD AND F.

AND THEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

I THINK MOST PARENTS GOT THAT AND NOW IT'S THREE.

ANYWAYS, I JUST.

I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE, BUT I JUST THINK WE'RE TAKING OUT SOME REFINEMENT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE ONLY COMMUNICATION TOOL THAT MOST OF OUR PARENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SO.

ALSO FOR ME, I NEVER EVEN KNEW WHAT THE 1 2 3 OR FOUR I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I KNEW FOUR WAS YOU WERE DOING GOOD AND ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING HERE. SO BUT YOU HAD KIND OF THE IN BETWEEN.

SO IF YOU KNEW YOUR KID, THIS IS TAKING AWAY THAT KIND OF THAT REFINEMENT BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE MY KIDS DOING GREAT OR MY KIDS DOING HORRIBLE.

WELL, THEN THEY COULD BE APPROACHES AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHERE IS MY KID IN APPROACHING ANYWAYS.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REFINEMENT.

I MEAN, I GUESS WE STICK WITH IT AND SEE IF PARENTS LIKE IT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK ONE PIECE THAT WE WILL PUT MORE OF A PUSH ON NEXT YEAR IS LIKE WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST RUBRIC THAT WE USE THAT WE GIVE TEACHERS THAT EXPLAINS IT AS THEY'RE SCORING THE STUDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW COMPREHENSIVE WE'VE BEEN ABOUT PROMOTING THAT WITH PARENTS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF, NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT THAT WILL GO INTO EVEN MORE DETAIL ON WHAT APPROACHING STANDARD ACTUALLY MEANS IN THAT PARTICULAR SET OF SKILLS.

YOU KNOW, MR. SMITH, ONE THING THAT SERVING ON THIS BOARD HAS REALLY, REALLY HIGHLIGHTED THAT I'M NOT SURE I REALLY KNEW WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNG IS HOW CRITICAL SUCCESS IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF SCHOOL REALLY PLAYS ON YOUR ENTIRE.

BECAUSE I NEVER HAD A KID REALLY THAT STRUGGLED IN THOSE YEARS AND SO.

THE FEEDBACK THAT THESE GRADES GET KINDER FIRST AND SECOND GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT, YEAH, THEY'RE, APPROACHING STANDARD.

BUT AND I'M KIND OF PULLING THIS FROM SOME OF THE SPECIAL EDUCATION FEEDBACK THAT WE GET, BUT THEY'RE ON TRACK TO MEET THIS BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND SO THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK A TEACHER PROBABLY KNOWS THAT UNLESS WE DO SOME MAJOR INTERVENTIONS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS CONCEPT OR THIS SKILL OR WHATEVER MASTERED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE BEHIND GOING IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST GET A REPORT CARD ALL YEAR LONG THAT SAYS LIMITED PROGRESS, LIMITED PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHT GOES ON AND THEY GET IT AT THE END. THAT TEACHER KIND OF THINKS THAT JUST A LITTLE MORE WORK AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT.

AM I MAKING SENSE? LIKE A WAY TO REALLY COMMUNICATE THAT AND IDENTIFY THOSE KIDDOS THAT IF THEY JUST DO, THEY JUST COME TO SCHOOL AND CONTINUE ON THE SAME PATH? THEY PROBABLY ARE NOT GOING TO MASTER THIS BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

I HEAR YA TO CATCH THOSE KIDS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE READING ON GRADE LEVEL BY THIRD GRADE.

[02:50:01]

IT'S A KEY COMMUNICATION TOOL, RIGHT, WITH NOT ONLY AMONG TEACHERS FOR THE NEXT GRADE LEVEL, BUT PARENTS AS WELL.

SO LET ME DIVE IN A LITTLE DEEPER AS WE MAKE.

LIKE I SAID, EVERY SUMMER WE GET A GROUP TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

I WILL SAY OUR K-2 REPORT CARD BEING A SKILLS BASED REPORT CARD DOES GIVE A LOT MORE FEEDBACK THAN KIND OF JUST AN ABCD REPORT CARD.

SO THERE'S I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN GO DEEPER WITH HOW WE COMMUNICATE IT OUT, WHICH I THINK WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY, BUT WE MIGHT NOT BE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHEN IT'S COMMUNICATING TO PARENTS.

AND I'M THE FIRST TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW CAN WE IDENTIFY THESE KIDS EVEN EARLIER, YOU KNOW, TO SAY WE REALLY NEED TO START THIS INTERVENTION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY FAIL STAAR IN THIRD GRADE AND THEN WE NOW HAVE TO AND THE REPORT CARD IS JUST REMEMBER IS JUST ONE PIECE TOO OF THAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THEIR PERFORMANCE.

AND WE DO MULTIPLE, ESPECIALLY IN LITERACY AND MATH, MULTIPLE ASSESSMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

TEACHERS DO THEIR OWN ASSESSMENTS PLUS OUR BEGINNING OF YEAR MIDDLE OF YEAR END OF YEAR ASSESSMENT.

SO IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR REPORT CARDS, AN IMPORTANT PIECE, BUT IS JUST ONE PIECE IN THE OVERALL PUZZLE.

AND I GUESS I'M NOT AS EDUCATED ABOUT THAT JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT STUDENT OUTCOMES, WE START IN THIRD GRADE REALLY, AND WE DON'T REALLY DIVE TOO MUCH.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE SOME OF OUR GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES DIFFERENCE. AND THIS MAY BE GETTING OFF TOPIC OF THIS, BUT IT JUST.

I WANT THE REPORT CARDS TO REALLY COMMUNICATE TO PARENTS.

HEY, YOUR KIDDO PROBABLY NEEDS SOME EXTRA HELP.

AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO HIT THAT.

DEFINITELY AGREE. WE DEFINITELY ARE REFINING AND WE'LL BE REFINING SOME MORE.

AND RIGHT. AND SKILL BASED.

SO WE CAN, LIKE YOU SAID, TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND HOW CAN WE MOVE? HOW CAN WE BETTER HELP OUR STUDENTS BE SUCCESSFUL? FOR SURE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

SO THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE IS FD LOCAL AND THIS CHANGES THE FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENTS LANGUAGE IN FD LOCAL TO REALLY KIND OF MATCH WITH WHAT OUR PRACTICE IS AND ENSURE THAT OUR POLICY LANGUAGE KIND OF ALIGNED WITH WHAT A LOT OF OTHER DISTRICTS DO.

SO WE JUST SET SOME DEADLINES, SOME CLEAR DEADLINES IN THERE.

AND SO THOSE WERE SOMEHOW THEY WERE DUPLICATED IN THE PROCESS.

SO YOU'LL SEE WHERE THAT'S READ UP AT THE TOP, THE BIG FIRST AT THE END OF THAT PARAGRAPH.

THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THERE TWICE, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT OUT BEFORE NEXT WEEK.

SO I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.

BUT AGAIN, IT JUST PROVIDES SOME CLEAR GUIDELINES ON WHEN THOSE APPLICATIONS INFORMATION NEED TO BE IN.

AND THE OTHER CHANGE OR AGAIN, MAKING SURE IT ALIGNED WITH OUR PRACTICE IS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENTS ARE JUNIORS AND THEY DON'T GRADUATE FROM ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THAT TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.

SO AND THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON PRACTICE THROUGHOUT THE STATE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR BECAUSE THAT IS THE CURRENT PRACTICE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR POLICY AS FAR AS I KNOW. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SENIORS? AGAIN, AS FAR AS I KNOW. OK.

AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? THEY MAY BE TECHNICALLY SENIORS WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY, BUT WHEN THEY COME TO SCHOOL IN TEXAS OR ROUND ROCK ISD, AT LEAST I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH TEXAS, THEY'RE JUNIORS HERE.

SO THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, AND THE DEFINITION WORLDWIDE OF WHAT GRADE YOU'RE IN, I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME LENGTH OF SCHOOLING TILL YOU'RE A CERTAIN AGE.

I MEAN, IT JUST VARIES WORLDWIDE.

SO NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY ARE, THEY ARE A JUNIOR [LAUGHTER].

TRUSTEE HARRISON. YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON.

THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST I'M CURIOUS WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND WHAT MOTIVATED US TO MAKE THIS IF THIS WASN'T ORIGINAL POLICY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN THE ADMINISTRATOR WHO MADE THESE CHANGES SHE HAD A FAMILY SITUATION SO SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE.

IT'S THE PRACTICE THAT ALMOST EVERY DISTRICT ACROSS THE STATE.

SO WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT OUR LOCAL POLICY ACCURATELY REFLECTS THAT PRACTICE.

I JUST WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT WAS OUR PRACTICE.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THE REASON WHY THAT IS THE PRACTICE AGAIN IS SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO CLASS RANK, YOU'RE NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING YOUR SENIORS WHO'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY AGAIN THEIR WHOLE LIVES.

IS IT NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO NOT BE RANKED? I'D HAVE TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE YEAH I'D HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS.

I JUST IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY KIND OF PICKY THING, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THEY COULD GRADUATE BUT NOT BE RANKED.

[02:55:08]

THIS ISN'T THE HILL I WANT TO DIE ON.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THAT ADMINISTRATOR, IF POSSIBLE, ABOUT THEIR REASONING.

OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL GET WE'LL MAKE SURE WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION NEXT WEEK.

THE NEXT ONE IS EHB LOCAL.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE ADDITIONAL PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, BUT WE WANT TO ADD THEM IN AS POLICIES.

THE FIRST IS EHB LOCAL.

IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTRICT. WE SHOULD PROVIDE REGULAR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR TEACHERS OF STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA AND INCLUDE NEW RESEARCH AND PRACTICES FOR EDUCATING STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA.

SO WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING TRAINING FOR OUR DYSLEXIA SERVICE PROVIDERS, FOR TEACHERS THAT HAVE STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA IN THEIR CLASS.

WE DO THAT ANNUALLY, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN PART OF OUR POLICY, SO WE WANT TO ADD THAT INTO THE POLICY.

SO THAT'S IT.

JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THE WORD TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES OR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS? LIKE, ARE WE REQUIRING OUR TEACHERS OR ARE WE JUST PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES? I THINK THAT'S A REAL BIG DIFFERENCE.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, IN PRACTICE, WE REQUIRE THEM.

TO COMPLETE IT.

AS FAR AS THE WORDING OF THE POLICY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT.

I JUST I MEAN IF YOU PUT AS OPPORTUNITIES THAN IT LOOKS OPTIONAL AND IF YOU'RE PUTTING REGULAR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS, THEN A TEACHER IS REQUIRED TO DO THIS ADDITIONAL TRAINING IN DYSLEXIA.

WELL, I WILL SAY THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT WE DO PROVIDE, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR DYSLEXIC SERVICE PROVIDERS, MIGHT NOT BE ANNUAL.

YOU KNOW, THEY DO THEIR THREE DAY WILSON TRAINING OR GET THEIR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CERTIFICATION.

SO AND THIS JUST SAYS REGULAR.

I THINK I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A PARAGRAPH THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, WE SHOULD I'M FINE WITH ADDING REQUIRED.

WE CAN TAKE THAT. WE CAN BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK FOR A SECOND READING.

BIG PRINT GIVETH AND THE SMALL PRINT TAKETH AWAY.

SO IF YOU LEAVE ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF IT, THEN THEY COULD.

AND I MEAN, IF WE REALLY WANT TO REQUIRE IT AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THESE TRAININGS, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD SAY WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE THEM.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

AND IS THERE A REASON THAT THERE'S NOT MORE SPECIFICITY? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT UPDATED ANNUALLY, LIKE.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE DOING IT ANNUALLY, COULD THAT BE SAID OR.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S TRAINING THAT WE PROVIDE ANNUALLY THAT WE REQUIRE ANNUALLY FOR NEW STAFF THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD THAT TRAINING YET.

LET ME GO BACK WITH THIS FIRST READING TONIGHT.

LET ME GO BACK AND TALK WITH THE TEAM AND WE'LL BRING BACK SOME ADDITIONS NEXT TIME THAT REFLECT THAT.

AND THEN I THINK MY LAST ONE SHOULD BE EHBAA AND THIS IS ADDRESSES EARLY CHILDHOOD INTERVENTION.

SO THIS IS STUDENTS FROM BIRTH TO THREE THAT THEY REQUIRE SPECIAL ED SERVICES.

AND ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR SOME TIME JUST WRITING IT INTO POLICY THAT BY THE TIME THAT STUDENT DOES REACH AGE OF THREE, THAT THEY HAVE AN ARD MEETING AND ESSENTIALLY WE START PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THEM.

HOW DOES THIS PLAY INTO CHILD FIND? BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN HAPPENING TEN YEARS AT LEAST WHERE A KID WHO TRANSITIONS OUT OF ECI.

TRANSITIONS INTO OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM.

I MEAN, IF THEY'RE STILL NEEDING OF SERVICES.

CORRECT. SO WHEN YOU SAY CHILD FIND, I THINK IT PLAYS IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT ALWAYS HAS.

IT JUST HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN INTO OUR POLICY.

OKAY. AND WILL WE BE COORDINATING WITH OUR LOCAL ECI PROVIDERS TO IMPLEMENT THIS OR? LIKE I SAID, IT'S I CAN GET SOME ANSWERS TO THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE I THINK WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT ALREADY AND THAT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A POLICY RECOMMENDATION THAT AFTER WE HAD A CYCLICAL REVIEW, THEY SAW THAT THIS WAS OUR PRACTICE, BUT IT WASN'T WRITTEN INTO OUR POLICY.

AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE WRITE INTO THE POLICY.

NO I THINK IT'S A GREAT POLICY.

I JUST LIKE WE.

I JUST WONDERED ACTUALLY HOW WE IMPLEMENT IT AND HOW IT'S BEEN DONE RIGHT NOW.

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IT'S ALREADY OCCURRING.

SO I MEAN, THIS PRACTICE HAS BEEN OCCURRING FOR YEARS, BUT WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THE POLICY ACTUALLY REFLECTS THAT.

BUT I CAN GET YOU DETAILS OF HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS.

I JUST I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TONIGHT.

NO, THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, I'M ONLY SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

I HAD A CHILD THAT WAS IN ECI THAT TRANSITIONED TO THE DISTRICT AND THROUGH THE SPECIAL EDUCATION PROCESS AND IEP WAS DEVELOPED.

SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS, BUT I JUST WONDERED LIKE THE PRACTICE OF HOW IT ACTUALLY IS COORDINATED TO HOW SPECIFIC AGAIN VERSUS POLICY VERSUS PROCEDURE, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THIS AND THE DETAILS, JUST WONDERING HOW WE AGAIN CATCH ALL THOSE KIDDOS. SURE. YEAH, DEFINITELY WANT THAT TOO.

SO I'LL GET YOU SOME BACKGROUND DETAIL OF HOW IT WORKS AND WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK IF SOMETIMES IT'S A STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO SO WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE IF IT'S A STANDARD OR SOMETHING SPECIFIC AND THAT IS IT FOR THE POLICIES UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

I SAID THIS WAS FIRST READING.

SO WE WILL BRING THE POLICIES BACK TO YOU ALL FOR A SECOND READING NEXT WEEK.

I BELIEVE IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL INCORPORATE THE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE FINALIZED AND GET OUR POLICY UPDATED.

BOARD I HAVE FOUR POLICIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OR HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL IF YOU DO ANOTHER REVIEW OF THIS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW BY FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK AT THE VERY LATEST IF ANY OF THESE ARE NOT GOING TO GO IN THROUGH CONSENT.

AND YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, NOT THROUGH A CONSENT AGENDA AND NEED FURTHER REVIEW.

IS THAT FAIR? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE POLICIES THAT WE WENT OVER OR NEED ANY FURTHER REVIEW, PLEASE GET THAT TO MR. WOOLSTON BY FRIDAY, PLEASE.

OKAY. THAT IS THE END OF POLICY.

FIRST READING OF TASB POLICY UPDATE 118 AND OTHER LOCAL POLICIES.

THAT TAKES US BACK TO OUR LAST TWO AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODES 551.071.

THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS DELIBERATE AND CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION BY TRUSTEES MARY BONE AND TRUSTEE DANIELLE WESTON PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.07 AND 551.074.

THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT? AND PRESIDENT? I NEVER REQUESTED AN AGENDA ITEM THAT LIKE THIS AT ALL, SO I WOULD IF THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT I DON'T THINK INFORMATION PROBABLY EVEN MEETS THE LEGAL STANDARD FOR TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT I'VE REQUESTED, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU JUST PROVIDE IT TO ME OR PROVIDE ME THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY THAT YOU HAVE TO WITHHOLD IT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE UP OUR TIME.

SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO DISCUSS THIS ON THE DAIS.

THAT'S WHY IT'S IN CLOSED SESSION.

SO WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.

WELL, I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT HERE.

I DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST IF YOU'VE CREATED ONE.

IT DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU REQUESTED IT.

WELL, MY NAME IS ON IT.

SO CAN WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT DISCUSSION ON NUMBER THREE IN CLOSED SESSION TO 5 MINUTES? THAT IS MY MOTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO LIMIT DISCUSSION FOR 5 MINUTES ON D3 OR D3 AND D4? ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR OF RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED. ABSTAINING.

5 MINUTES IS GOOD WITH ME.

I'M READY TO GO HOME.

OKAY. WELL, I DIDN'T GET A FULL VOTE FROM EVERYBODY, SO I HAD IN FAVOR OF IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF LIMITING DISCUSSION ON D3 TO 5 MINUTES, RAISE YOUR HAND.

FOUR. OPPOSED.

ABSTAIN. OPPOSED.

YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE. OPPOSED ABSTAINING.

TRUSTEE XIAO. I DON'T HAVE A VOTE FROM YOU.

YOU'RE ABSTAINING. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

OK HAVE ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT'S YOUR POINT? WHO REQUESTED ITEM NUMBER D4? WHY IS THEIR NAME NOT ON HERE? IT'S JUST BEEN A STANDARD ITEM THAT HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDAS FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ON EVERY AGENDA ITEM OR THAT'S GOING TO BE ON EVERY AGENDA? NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. BUT I SAID IT'S BEEN ON A MAJORITY OF OUR AGENDAS.

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NO ONE SPECIFICALLY.

WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT NOBODY HAS REQUESTED.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT IS 11:13.

[D. CLOSED SESSION (Part 3 of 3)]

SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK ALL OF OUR AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO LEAVE.

IT IS 11:13. WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION.

[E. CALL BACK TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS (Part 3 of 3)]

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED? SEEING NONE. IT IS 11:34 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.