[00:00:02] OK. IT IS 5:30, SO WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF [B. CALL TO ORDER] TRUSTEES PUBLIC HEARING ON ROUND ROCK ISD 2020-2021 SCHOOL FINANCE INTEGRITY RATING SYSTEM OF TEXAS. OUR FIRST RATING. ALL TRUSTEES ARE PRESENT. WE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT, WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHERE'S MY SCRIPT? AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AVOID THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE ASK THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES. THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED. PROTECTS THIS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02, 42.05, AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105. NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON. THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ANY INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FOR THE MEETING. THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION ITEM PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF A RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE [E. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS ONLY (EXCLUDES AGENDA ITEMS D AND E)] AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JENNIFER ZIMMERMAN. HELLO, MY NAME IS JENNIFER ZIMMERMAN AND MY PRONOUNS, ARE SHE HER? HOLD ON ONE SECOND. THE MICROPHONE IS NOT WORKING, SO TO MAKE SURE WE GET YOUR RECORDED, GIVE IT A TEST. TESTING ONE, TWO, THREE. TESTING ONE, TWO, THREE. KEEP. HELLO. ABC, ARE WE GOOD? SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. NO, IT'S OK. MY NAME IS JENNIFER ZIMMERMAN. MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE HER HERS? AND I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE AGENDA ITEM. SPECIFICALLY, I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE ITEM LISTED AS OTHER FOR DR. STEVE FLORES, WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT OF FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO DOLLARS. THAT IS QUITE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE LISTED AS OTHER. AND SO I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT AND IDEALLY HAVE THAT ITEMIZE AS TO WHAT THE FUNDS WERE SPENT ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JEREMY STORY. YES, I KNOW THAT THAT WITH THE FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATINGS OF THE DISTRICT FOR THINGS AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE BONDS AND THINGS THAT OFTENTIMES THE SAME INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE POLICIES FOR KEY EMPLOYEES ALSO PROVIDES SIMILAR POLICIES FOR YOUR BOND RATINGS. AND I THINK THAT THAT CREATES AN ISSUE THERE IN TERMS OF INCENTIVE TO NOT LOSE KEY EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT YOUR POTENTIAL BOND RATINGS LATER IN THE FUTURE RATINGS WITH THOSE SAID SAME INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN YOU HAVE THE SAME INSURANCE COMPANY INSURING BOTH KEY EMPLOYEES AND BOND RATINGS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THAT CAN BE AN INCENTIVE SOMETIMES FOR THINGS TO BE COVERED UP THAT SHOULDN'T BE COVERED UP. THAT IS IT FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, FOR THE FIRST RATING HEARING, AND I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER. WE ARE ON D1. DR. AZAIEZ. PRESIDENT WEIR, TRUSTEES, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SO TONIGHT WILL BE REVIEWING THE 2020 21 SCHOOL FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING FOR OUR FOR OUR DISTRICT. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IS, ALTHOUGH IT SAYS 2021 SCHOOL FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING, IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE 2019, I'M SORRY, 2019 2020 FISCAL SCHOOL YEAR. AND WE HAVE WITH US, OUR CFO, WHO WILL OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION [00:05:02] ON OUR RATING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND SUPERINTENDENT. TONIGHT, AS YOU SAID, I WILL GO OVER THE 2021 FIRST REPORT BASED ON THE 2019-2020 FINANCIALS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE FIRST RATING IS A SYSTEM ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO ACHIEVE THE PRIMARY GOAL FOR QUALITY PERFORMANCE AND THE MANAGEMENT OF SCHOOL DISTRICT FINANCIAL RESOURCES. DISTRICTS ARE RATED ON INDICATORS OUTLINED BY THE COMMISSIONERS. THE RATINGS IS BASED ON STAFF STUDENT FINANCIAL DATA REPORTED TO TEA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR PRIOR TO THE RATING. AS I SAID, THIS IS THE 2021 REPORT BASED ON THE 2019-20 FISCAL YEAR DATA. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MIC] GO TO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THE SCORING SYSTEM FOR THE RATING, THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF INDICATORS YOUR CRITICAL INDICATORS ARE INDICATORS ONE THROUGH FIVE, YOUR SOLVENCY INDICATORS 6 THROUGH 14 AND FINANCIAL COMPETENCE INDICATORS OF 15 THROUGH 20. AND EACH HAS EITHER PASSED, FAILED, CEILINGS OR POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, AND WE WILL COVER THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE RATINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. DETERMINATION OF THE RATINGS, DID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FAIL ANY OF THE CRITICAL INDICATORS? IF THE DISTRICT FAILS ONE OF THE CRITICAL INDICATORS, THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVE AN F RATING FOR SOME SUBSTANDARD ACHIEVEMENT. CATEGORY B, DETERMINING RATINGS BY THE NUMBER OF POINTS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RATINGS ARE A, B, C AND F BASED ON THE TOTAL POINTS THAT YOU ACCUMULATE IN EACH OF THE INDICATORS. BUT IF A DISTRICT FAILS TO REACH 70 POINTS, IT WOULD RECEIVE AN F RATING FOR SUBSTANDARD ACHIEVEMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE WILL NOW GO THROUGH EACH OF THE 20 INDICATORS. INDICATOR ONE WAS AN ANNUAL FINANCE REPORT FILED WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE TO SET DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 27TH. RISD REPORT WAS NOT SUBMITTED TO THE TEA BY THE DEADLINE, SO THE RESULT IS A NO. INDICATOR TWO, WAS THERE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION IN THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS A WHOLE? WE DID RECEIVE AN UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION RESULTS PASSED. NEXT, SLIDE INDICATOR THREE WAS A SCHOOL DISTRICT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PAYMENTS OF TERMS OF ALL DEBT AGREEMENTS AT FISCAL YEAR END. WE PAID DEBT SEMIANNUALLY ON FEBRUARY ONE AND AUGUST ONE, AND WE MADE ALL PAYMENTS ON TIME. SO THE RESULTS, DISTRICT PASSED. INDICATOR FOUR, DID THE DISTRICT MAKE TIMELY PAYMENTS TO THE TEACHERS RETIREMENT SYSTEM, THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION, INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES? ALL REPORTS WERE SUBMITTED TIMELY TO THE GOVERNMENT ON ENTITIES AND THERE WAS NO WARRANT WHOLE ISSUE. SO DISTRICT PASSED. INDICATOR FIVE IS NOT BEING SCORED. INDICATOR SIX WAS THE AVERAGE CHANGE IN ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OVER THREE YEARS, LESS THAN A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT DECREASE OR DID THE CURRENT YEARS ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE EXCEEDS 75 DAYS OF OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES. THE FIRST ONE, THE FUND BALANCE, GREW BY 17.7 MILLION, SO THERE WAS NOT A 25 PERCENT DECREASE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBERS ON THE CHART. THE WE EXCEEDED THE STANDARD FIVE DAYS OF OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES, SO THE RESULT THE DISTRICT PASSED. INDICATOR SEVEN WAS A NUMBER OF DAYS OF CASH ON HAND AND CURRENT INVESTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUFFICIENT TO COVER OPERATING EXPENDITURES, CASH ON HAND TO COVER. TWO HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR DAYS. TO GET THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF POINTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER TO EXCEED 90 DAYS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DISTRICT PASSED AND WE GOT 10 OF THE 10 POINTS. INDICATOR EIGHT WAS THE MEASURE OF CURRENT ASSETS TO CURRENT LIABILITIES RATIO FOR THE DISTRICT SUFFICIENT TO COVER SHORT TERM DEBT BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS OF CURRENT ASSETS TO CURRENT LIABILITIES, WE HAVE A RATIO OF 5.47, WHICH EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENT OF 3.0 FOR MAXIMUM POINTS. DISTRICT RECEIVED 10 OF 10 POINTS. INDICATOR NINE, DID THE DISTRICT GENERAL FUND REVENUE EQUAL OR EXCEED EXPENDITURES? AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE WAS 437 MILLION AND OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES WERE 427 MILLION. [00:10:01] SO WE ARE EXPENDITURES WITH LESS THAN THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE BY 10.3 MILLION. WE RECEIVED THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF POINTS BEING 10. INDICATOR TEN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AVERAGE LESS THAN A 10 PERCENT VARIANCE WHEN THEY'RE COMPARING BUDGET REVENUES TO ACTUAL REVENUES. OUR VARIANCE WAS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT, AS YOU CAN SEE 0.89 PERCENT. SO WE PASSED THE LESS THAN 10 PERCENT VARIANCE AND GOT 10 OF 10 POINTS. INDICATOR 11 WAS THE LONG TERM LIABILITIES TO TOTAL ASSETS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT LONG TERM SOLVENCY INDICATOR EIGHT WAS ONE ON SHORT TERM DEBT. THIS ONE'S ON LONG TERM DEBT. OUR RATIO OF 64.2 MEETS THE SECOND HIGHEST OF THE CRITICAL AREA AND WE RECEIVE EIGHT POINTS. IF WE WERE LESS THAN 60 PERCENT, WE WOULD RECEIVE 10 POINTS, SO THE DISTRICT DID RECEIVE THE EIGHT FOR TEN POINTS. INDICATOR 12 WAS A DEBT PER ONE HUNDRED OF ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUE RATIO SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT FUTURE DEBT REPAYMENTS. OUR DEBT PER 100 OF ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUE IS 2.7, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE REQUIRED FOUR TO GET THE MAXIMUM POINTS OF 10. INDICATOR 13 WAS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ADMINISTRATIVE COST RATIO EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE THRESHOLD RATIO. OUR DISTRICT IS RATED ON THE OF ADA OF 10K OR MORE, AND BASED ON THAT RATIO OF A 0.048 FOR OUR DISTRICT, IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE THRESHOLD TO GET THE MAXIMUM POINTS OF 0 .0855. THE DISTRICT RECEIVED THE 10 POINTS. INDICATOR 14, THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT NOT HAVE A 15 PERCENT DECLINE IN STUDENTS TO STAFF RATIO OVER THREE YEARS, TOTAL ENROLLMENT TO TOTAL STAFF. IF THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT DID NOT DECREASE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL AUTOMATICALLY PASS THE INDICATOR. STUDENT ENROLLMENT INCREASE TOTAL ENROLLMENT DID NOT DECREASE, SO AUTOMATIC PASS 10 OF 10 POINTS. INDICATOR 15 WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ADA WITHIN THE ALLOTTED RANGE OF THE DISTRICT'S BIENNIAL PUPIL PROJECTIONS SUBMITTED TO TEA. AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR WE HAVE PROJECTED FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY TWO STUDENTS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWENTY SIX STUDENTS FOR A RATIO OF A NEGATIVE 0.0049 WHICH MEETS THE REQUIREMENT LESS THAN AN EQUAL 2.07. AND THIS RECEIVED FIVE OR FIVE POINTS. DID A COMPARISON OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATION INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PINGS DATA TO LIGHT INFORMATION IN THE SCHOOLS AND YOUR FINANCIAL REPORT RESULT IN A TOTAL VARIANCE OF LESS THAN THREE PERCENT OF ALL EXPENDITURES BY FUNCTION? THE SUM OF THE DIFFERENCE WAS 470,000 DENOMINATORS, AS OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES WERE 427 MILLION. OUR RATIO WAS POINT 0.0011, WHICH MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF LESS THAN EQUAL 2.00, 0.03 TO PASS THIS TEST RESULTS PASSED. INDICATOR 17, DID THE EXTERNAL INDEPENDENT AUDITOR REPORT THAT THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT WAS FREE OF ANY INSTANCES OR MATERIAL WEAKNESSES? INDICATOR 17 EXAMS [INAUDIBLE] MATERIAL WEAKNESSES IN OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING. THEY DID NOT AND THE DISTRICT PASSED THIS INDICATOR. INDICATOR 18, DID THE AUDITORS FIND ANY INSTANCES OF MATERIAL NONCOMPLIANCE WITH DEALING WITH GRANTS, CONTRACTS AND LAWS RELATED TO LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDS. THERE WERE NONE NOTED NO INSTANCE OF MATERIAL NONCOMPLIANCE WAS REPORTED. DISTRICT RECEIVED 10 OF 10 POINTS. DID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT POST THE REQUIRED FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON ITS WEBSITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT CODE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, TEXAS EDUCATIONAL CODE? YES, THE DISTRICT POSTED ALL REQUIRED FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON ITS WEBSITE AND RECEIVED FIVE OR FIVE POINTS. DID SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER DISCUSS THE DISTRICT PROPERTY VALUES AT A BOARD MEETING WITHIN 120 DAYS BEFORE THE DISTRICT ADOPTED BUDGET? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. INDICATOR RESULTS PASSED. SO IN SUMMARY OF THE TOTAL POINTS AVAILABLE, WHICH WAS ONE HUNDRED ROUND ROCK, ISD RECEIVED NINETY EIGHT POINTS, BUT OUR FINAL RATING WAS F DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE FAIL ONE OF THE CRITICAL RATINGS, WHICH WAS CRITICAL WAS WAS INDICATOR NUMBER ONE. DID WE FILE THE REPORT ON TIME AND WE DID NOT. SO IT REGARDLESS OF EACH SCORING 98 OF THE 100 POINTS, THE DISTRICT STILL RECEIVED AN AUTOMATIC F FOR SUBSTANDARD ACHIEVEMENT. THAT'S THE END OF THE FIRST REPORT. BUT ALONG WITH THIS REPORT, THERE'S ADDITIONAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MUST REPORT THE OUTSIDE COMPENSATION RECEIVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT. [00:15:01] THE SUPERINTENDENT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PAYMENT FOR CONSULTING OR OTHER PERSONAL SERVICE DURING 2020-21. DID THHE SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD RECEIVE ANY GIFTS OR ECONOMIC VALUE OF GREATER THAN 250 DOLLARS OR MORE, AND THAT IS ALSO A NO. ALSO REQUIRE IS THAT YOU REPORT ON TRAVEL DONE BY EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL ARE LISTED ACROSS THE TOP WITH THE TYPES OF CHARGES DOWN ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE. AND IT SHOWS A TOTAL OF $16,000 THAT WAS PAID FOR TRAVEL FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPERINTENDENTS. NEXT, SLIDE ADDITIONAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. WAS THERE ANY BUSINESS TRANSACTION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE PERIOD ENDED JUNE 30, 2021? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. AND THE LAST REQUIREMENT IS THAT SUPERINTENDENTS CONTRACT BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. AND AS YOU IF YOU GO TO THE LINK THAT'S LISTED ON THE SLIDE, YOU WILL FIND THE SUPERINTENDENTS WEBSITE. I'M A SUPERINTENDENTS CONTRACT ON THE WEBSITE. MADAM CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON, BUT I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. OH, TRUSTEE BONE. SURE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THE REASON WE GOT THE F, WHICH WAS THAT WE DIDN'T TURN THE REPORT IN ON TIME. IF I GO BACK, I BELIEVE THAT REPORT WAS TURNED IN JANUARY. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TURNED IN IN DECEMBER. I PERSONALLY CAME ON THE BOARD IN NOVEMBER AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL, I BELIEVE, NOVEMBER LAST MONTH. I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE THE COMMUNICATION KIND OF BROKE DOWN IF WE KNOW DR. AZAIEZ. I KNOW THAT WAS BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, EVEN AFTER YOU GOT HERE IN JULY, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS F RATING UNTIL LATER. AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THE BOARD WASN'T NOTIFIED IN JANUARY WHEN IT WAS TURNED IN LATE. IT'S KIND OF WHAT I EXPECTED MY KIDS. IF THEY TURN INTO SOMETHING LATE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A BAD GRADE. I BETTER KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE HOME ACCESS TELLS ME. SO I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ON THAT. TRUSTEE BONE FROM WHAT WAS IN THE FILES THAT WE HAD APPEALED THE SUBMISSION OF THE REPORT, AND WE DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER ON THE APPEAL UNTIL, I THINK, IN NOVEMBER. YEAH, I GUESS THIS MAYBE IS A QUESTION THEN FOR MY COLLEAGUES, I MEAN, I GUESS MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT BEFORE THEY APPEAL OR DURING THE APPEAL THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OR THE BOARD WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS COMING DOWN. I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND SO I JUST. CAN I ASK DR. PRESLEY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED ABOUT THE APPEAL. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIMING, BUT THERE WAS A CBU SENT TO THE BOARD THAT WE MISSED THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON SOME FEDERAL FUNDS AND HOW TO CODE THEM AS MY UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR FORMER CFO. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS LATE IN BEING SUBMITTED. BUT A CBU DID GO TO THE BOARD LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE WERE LATE IN SUBMITTING AND WE WERE PENDING AN APPEAL, WHICH WE, AS MR. COVINGTON SAID, FOUND OUT THE RESULT OF THAT IN NOVEMBER. VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT THEY OF APPROVE THE APPEAL AND GIVEN US OUR A RATING AS WE'VE ALWAYS HAD. BUT THAT DIDN'T COME COME TO BE SO. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND DR. BONE. OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE TO COMMUNICATE EVEN MORE TO OUR BOARD FOR THIS YEAR, THIS PAST YEAR. SO OUR THANKS TO YOU FOR APPROVING OUR AUDIT IN NOVEMBER LAST MONTH, ACTUALLY THAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED ACTUALLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, RIGHT, MR. [INAUDIBLE] SO OUR AUDIT WAS IS ALREADY DONE. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN WAITING FOR. WE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR DECEMBER. WE SENT THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS. TRUSTEE WESTON. SO MR. COVINGTON, THIS IS FOR 2019-2020. IT'S THE 2021 REPORT, BUT IT'S BASED ON THE 2019-2020 DATA. EXCEPT FOR SLIDE TWENTY SEVEN. IT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THE TRUSTEES AND THE FORMER TRUSTEES AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND DOLLAR FIGURES ATTACHED CAUSE THAT ONE SAYS TO JUNE 30TH OF 2021. SO I GUESS IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME. YES. YOU HAVE THE REPORT OUTSIDE OF THE FIRST REPORT THAT PIECES OF MANAGEMENT REPORT THAT YOU HAVE TO REPORT ON THOSE EXPENDITURES EACH YEAR, SO IT'S ALWAYS BROUGHT DURING THE FIRST REPORT. SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE FORMER SUPERINTENDENT OF $4700 [00:20:05] EXPENDITURE? WHAT WHAT WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE? MA'AM, I DO NOT KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT. OK, CAN YOU JUST LET THE BOARD KNOW? MAYBE NEXT BOARD UPDATE. WE'LL DO. AND I SEE A BIG DISPARITY HERE AMONG THE TRUSTEES AND THE SPENDING. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY EXPLANATION THAT WE COULD JUST OFFER THE PUBLIC? I SEE. I'M ON HERE FOR $645. I ASSUME THAT'S FOR THE JUNE TRAINING SUMMER LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE THAT I ATTENDED. BUT THERE ARE SOME LARGE FIGURES ON HERE. SO CAN WE JUST GET SOME CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC? I CAN TELL YOU MINE, I. SO THIS IS IT OBVIOUSLY, SINCE IT HAS THE PREVIOUS BOARD, I DON'T KNOW THE DATES EXACTLY, BUT IF IT INCLUDES, THERE'S MANDATORY BOARD OFFICER TRAINING THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE. THAT WAS A BIG CHUNK. AND THEN WITH THE LEADERSHIP TASB, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THAT OR NOT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IT GOES FROM JULY 1ST TO JUNE 30TH. AND I KNOW YOU, OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE ELECTED LAST, I GUESS, NOVEMBER 20. SO IN OTHER WORDS, FOR YOU AND I'M ALSO THINKING FOR TRUSTEE FELLER AND ALSO FOR MS. VESSA BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE BOARD, SERVING ON THE BOARD DURING THAT FIRST PERIOD OF TIME. SO I'M THINKING THAT'S WHY MAYBE YOU MAYBE ATTENDED SOME EXTRA CONFERENCES OVER THE SUMMER, I THINK, BEFORE. I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT MINE. MY HOTEL CHARGE IS I ATTENDED SUMMER LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE IN DALLAS, SO THAT WOULD BE THE HOTEL CHARGE AND MY REGISTRATION. I HAD A BOARD OFFICER'S TRAINING. I HAD WINTER GOVERNANCE AND I HAD SUMMER LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE. YEAH, I THINK I DID ALL OF MY VIRTUAL, WHICH MUST BE WHY I DON'T HAVE A HOTEL UP THROUGH THAT. AND I DID SLI SOMMER LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE IN PERSON. I DID ALL MINE ONLINE, BUT I JUST DID THE REGULAR. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER ALL THE THINGS I WENT TO, I THINK I JUST DID TASB AND MAYBE I DID ONE OTHER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST REGULAR, WELL I MEAN WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE TRAINING. SO. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY MORE. BUTTONS. ALL RIGHT, THEN, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRST READING AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, IT IS 5:52 AND WE WILL ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND GIVE ME JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO SEE IF ANYBODY SIGNED UP. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES AFTER WE CALL TO ORDER ON THE REGULAR MEETING. THANK. ALL RIGHT, SO IT IS 5:53 AND WE WILL CALL THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES REGULAR BOARD MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6TH 2021. ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE. WE WILL STAND AGAIN FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEDGE] ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE START ON D1, I NEED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE TRUSTEE XIAO AND TRUSTEE WESTON. WE ARE GOING TO INITIALLY TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ONLY ON ITEMS I AND P1 AND P2. WE WILL THEN DO ITEMS I, P1 AND P2, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND DO THE REST OF OUR. AND THEN START BACK UP WITH AFTER ALL, THREE OF THOSE ITEMS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, DO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN DO THE REMAINING PART OF THE AGENDA. SO HOPEFULLY, I'LL REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS I AND P SINCE WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT [00:25:03] BEFORE WE DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS. WE WILL THEN SKIP TO ITEMS. WELL, ACTUALLY, WE DO G IS PART OF I, BUT WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR I AND P1 AND P2 COME BACK OUT AND THEN WE WILL DO THE REST AFTER THE BOARD OFFICER ELECTIONS AND AFTER WE ARE CONCLUDED WITH OUR P1 AND P2, WE WILL PICK UP AND RESUME PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN DO THE REST OF THE AGENDA. SO WE HAVE. I'LL READ THE SCRIPT ONE MORE TIME AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEMS. THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING ON THE AGENDA AND NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE ASKED THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES. THE BOARD COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS OF THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED. PER TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02, 42.05 AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105. NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON. THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION ITEM PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF A RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. MS. FELLER WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER. AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] OH, [INAUDIBLE]. OK. [INAUDIBLE] I'M A PARENT IN ROUND ROCK ISD, I'M HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR TRUSTEE, VESSA, TRUSTEE XIAO, TRUSTEE HARRISON, TRUSTEE FELLER, AND PRESIDENT WEIR IN TIRELESSLY FIGHTING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'M ALSO HERE TO SAY A RESOUNDING NO TO TRUSTEE BONE AND TRUSTEE WESTON. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF US. THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN AN OFFICER POSITION. THEY HAVE THREATENED AND INTIMIDATED THE COMMUNITY. STUDENTS, TEACHERS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY FEELING UNSAFE. IF ANYTHING, I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD GIVE UP YOUR POSITION. THIS IS ESPECIALLY FOR TRUSTEE BONE AND TRUSTEE WESTON. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JEN BROWN. YOU GUYS HEAR ME ,OK? I AM A ROUND ROCK ISD PARENT WHO OPPOSES TRUSTEE WESTON FOR ANY OFFICER POSITION, WESTON HAD THE AUDACITY TO ASK THE BOARD TO REIMBURSE LEGAL EXPENSES FOR COURT PROCEEDINGS SHE FILED AGAINST THE DISTRICT. THEN, SHE FUNDRAISED FOR LEGAL EXPENSES AND APPEARANCE ON WAR ROOMS WITH STEVE BANNON, A MAN WHO HAS BEEN QUOTED SAYING, LET THEM CALL YOU RACIST, LET THEM CALL YOU XENOPHOBES, LET THEM CALL YOU NATIVIST. WEAR IT AS A BADGE OF HONOR. WESTON ALSO INTERVIEWED WITH A PERSON WHO CALLED HER CRITICS [INAUDIBLE], YET SHE CALLS HERSELF A [INAUDIBLE] ADVOCATE. THE CODE OF ETHICS ACTUALLY REQUIRES TRUSTEES TO FOLLOW DISTRICT POLICIES, RESPECT THE MAJORITY DECISION OF THE BOARD AND REFRAIN FROM ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WORK AGAINST THE DISTRICT. BUT ETHICS DON'T SEEM TO FIGURE INTO WESTON CALCULATIONS JUST RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF HER POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS, FUNDRAISING, AND SELF-INTEREST AT THE DIRECT EXPENSE OF THE STUDENT SHE SWORE TO SERVE. WESTON FOCUS IS SOLELY ON HERSELF, NOT REPRESENTING ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF. AFTER ALL, SHE BELIEVES SHE'S PART OF THE ELITE CLASS. SHE DESERVES CENSURE, NOT AN OFFICER POSITION. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIC NORMAN, AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE READING WHAT AGENDA [00:30:05] ITEM, SO IT'S AND I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T ON THE FIRST TWO, IT'S P1. GOOD EVENING. I SEE THAT TONIGHT YOU WILL BE DISCUSSING THE INITIATION OF TRUSTEE CENSURES, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME TRUSTEE BEHAVIOR WORTHY OF CENSURE. AS REPORTED IN THE STATESMAN, TRUSTEE AMBER FELLER USED HER POSITION TO BULLY A [F. ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT TEA MONITOR] COLLEGE BOARD EMPLOYEE DURING A DISPUTE, FELLER SON, WHO HAD WHO WAS TAKING THE SAT TEST, CALLED HER AFTER HE WAS DISQUALIFIED FOR VIOLATING TESTING POLICY. FELLER USED HER POSITION AS A TRUSTEE TO GAIN IMPROPER ACCESS TO THE BUILDING THAT WAS PROHIBITED AT THE TIME DUE TO THE TESTING IN PROGRESS, ACCORDING TO THE COLLEGE BOARD EMPLOYEE FELLER IDENTIFIED HERSELF AS A TRUSTEE AND ATTEMPTED TO INTIMIDATE HER OR SEEK SPECIAL FAVORS FOLLOWING THE DISPUTE AS THE COLLEGE BOARD EMPLOYEE WAS WALKING AWAY. SECURITY FOOTAGE SHOWS FELLER RAISING BOTH MIDDLE FINGERS AT THE WOMAN. THE COLLEGE BOARD EMPLOYEE FILED A LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCE IN THIS BOARD, DENIED THE GRIEVANCE ON A TECHNICALITY. IF THIS BOARD IS GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT CENSURES, MAY I SUGGEST YOU BEGIN BY CENSORING TRUSTEE FELLER FOR VIOLATING THE BOARD MEMBER CODE OF ETHICS AND ABUSING HER ROLE AS A TRUSTEE FOR PERSONAL GAIN. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE] LANE. SHE WILL SPEAK ON I1. [INAUDIBLE] LANE OR. YEAH [INAUDIBLE] L-A-I-N-E. [G. CLOSED SESSION] I'M A PARENT OF CHILDREN IN ROUND ROCK ISD, I OPPOSE BOTH WESTON AND BONE FOR BOARD OFFICER, A DECISIVE MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD IS PREPARED TO CENSURE BOTH WESTON AND BONE, WHICH MEANS THAT THIS BOARD CLEARLY DOES NOT SEEK THEIR LEADERSHIP. IF EITHER OF THEM THROWS THEIR HAT IN THE RING TONIGHT, THEY ARE EITHER INTENTIONALLY WASTING THIS BOARD'S TIME BY CHOOSING GRANDSTANDING OVER PRODUCTIVE WORK, OR THEY LACK BASIC AWARENESS OF THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT BEHIND THEM. EITHER SCENARIO CONFIRMS THAT THEY ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR A LEADERSHIP POSITION ON THIS. BOARD TRUSTEE WESTON, I'M TIRED OF YOUR SPEECHES ABOUT HOW NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU FOLLOW DISTRICT POLICY. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING YOURSELF FOLLOW DISTRICT POLICY. IT'S CALLED BOARD ETHICS. TRUSTEE BONE, DO YOU REALLY NOT SEE IT AS A VIOLATION OF BOARD ETHICS TO THREATEN TO START A BATTLE AGAINST THE DISTRICT? IF THE BOARD DARES TO PASS A POLICY YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHEN A TRUSTEE DEFINES DISTRICT POLICY, REBELS AGAINST MAJORITY DECISIONS OR ENCOURAGES OTHERS TO WORK AGAINST THE DISTRICT AND FELLOW TRUSTEES, THEY VIOLATE ROUND ROCK'S CODE OF ETHICS. YET YOU BOTH PERSIST ON A NEAR-DAILY BASIS. THEREFORE, YOU HAVE BOTH EARNED CENSURE, NOT AN OFFICER POSITION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KRISTEN WELSH. SHE'S SPEAKING ON ITEM I. I'M A ROUND ROCK ISD PARENT. I DO NOT SUPPORT TRUSTEE BONE OR WESTON FOR OFFICER POSITIONS ON THIS BOARD. THEIR ACTIONS HAVE BEEN DIVISIVE, DISRUPTIVE, SELF-SERVING AND FRANKLY HARMFUL TO STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE IN MARGINALIZED GROUPS. THEY HAVE SPENT MONTHS SCREECHING TO ANY MEDIA OUTLET THAT WILL HEAR THEM ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED AND TARGETED. AND YET THEY FAIL TO SEE OR CARE ABOUT HOW THEIR BEHAVIOR NEGATIVELY AFFECTS THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING. THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THEATRICAL MEDIA STUNTS THAT NOT ONLY USE FACTUALLY INACCURATE HYPERBOLE TO INCITE FEAR AND SHINE A NEGATIVE LIGHT ON THE DISTRICT, BUT THEN HAVE THE GALL TO BE CRITICAL OF THE FALLOUT THAT THEY THEMSELVES CREATE. THEIR ACTIONS HAVE CREATED AN UNSAFE CLIMATE FOR THE STUDENTS AND GIVEN PLATFORMS TO THOSE WHO WISH TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND HATE. I SUPPORT THE CENSURE OF WESTON AND BONE. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEPH MCCULLOUGH. HE'S SPEAKING ON I1. ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE WESTON, I OPPOSE THE APPOINTMENT OF YOU AND YOUR SHADOW TRUSTEE BONE TO AN OFFICER POSITION AND YOUR MOST RECENT EMAIL NEWSLETTER, YOU BOASTED ABOUT REFUSING TO WORK WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES UNLESS THEY ENTERTAIN YOUR CLEARLY UNDER-RESEARCHED BELIEF THAT THE DISTRICT CAN, AT THE FLIP OF A SWITCH, REACH ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE. CURRENTLY ONLY MET BY HIGHLAND PARK, CARROLL, AND LOVEJOY ISDS OUT OF OVER 1000 PUBLIC [00:35:04] SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THESE THREE DISTRICTS EXIST IN A BUBBLE AND DO NOT SHARE OUR REAL WORLD CHALLENGES. WE HAVE MORE SECTION 504 STUDENTS THAN THE ENTIRE STUDENT POPULATION OF LOVEJOY. HIGHLAND PARK HAS 10 ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS TO OUR 11000. WE HAVE MORE AT RISK STUDENTS THAN TWICE THE STUDENT POPULATION OF CARROLL ISD. HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY STUDIED THE DATA? INSTEAD OF GLANCING AT IT BETWEEN MEDIA INTERVIEWS, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT. YOUR CONDUCT, TRUSTEE WESTON IS UNBECOMING OF AN OFFICER, SO HE DID NOT DESERVE AN OFFICER POSITION. COME THE END OF YOUR TERM, YOU WILL BE DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED OF YOUR DUTY AS TRUSTEE BY THE REAL WE THE PEOPLE ON ELECTION DAY. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STACEY [INAUDIBLE]. SHE'S SPEAKING ON P1. STACEY? HI, I'M ADDRESSING AGENDA ITEM P1, WHICH REFERENCES THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER AND INITIATING THE TRUSTEE CENSURE PROCESS. I RECALL THAT BRINGING UNWANTED AND NEGATIVE MEDIA AND PUBLIC ATTENTION TO THE DISTRICT WAS PREVIOUSLY CITED AS A REASON TO CENSURE TWO OF OUR CURRENT TRUSTEES, SO I'D LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE WORDS AND ACTIONS OF TIFFANIE HARRISON. IN AUGUST, MS. HARRISON INDEPENDENTLY ORCHESTRATED A PRESS CONFERENCE INVITING THE MEDIA INTO OUR DISTRICTS MASK DEBATE, WHICH ALSO BROUGHT NEGATIVE ATTENTION TO OUR DISTRICT. ON JUNE 14TH HARRISON WROTE ON HER OFFICIAL TRUSTEE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE. I'VE LEARNED TO BE MEASURED WITH MY WORDS. THE WEIGHT OF MY WORDS AS A TRUSTEE CAN BE HARMFUL. THEY CAN INDUCE PANIC. I HAVE LEARNED TO CHOOSE MY WORDS WISELY AND TO BE INTENTIONAL WITH WHAT I SAY. YET, IN SEPTEMBER, TRUSTEE HARRISON THEN PROCEEDED TO MAKE INFLAMMATORY AND FALSE STATEMENTS REGARDING THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 14TH. HER EXACT WORDS WERE PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY BEATING DOWN DOORS, SHOVING POLICE OFFICERS, MAKING DEVIOUS PLANS TO HARM PEOPLE IN THE BOARDROOM AND MORE. I WAS PRESENT AT THAT BOARD MEETING, AND I KNOW THAT'S A BLATANT LIE. AS YOU ARE DISCUSSING INITIATING THE TRUSTEE CENTER PROCESS TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT TRUSTEE HARRISON ALSO BE CENSURED FOR BRINGING NEGATIVE ATTENTION TO THE DISTRICT AND FOR MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS WHICH HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO DIVISION IN OUR COMMUNITY. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KATIE KAISER. SHE IS SPEAKING AND YOU SIGNED UP FOR TWO MS. KAISER, BUT I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ON I AND M6, BUT YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAIN THE SECOND TIME. THAT'S FINE. I CAN DO THE WHOLE THING NOW. OK. OK. IN REGARD TO I JUST WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. DO YOU THINK IT'S OK FOR AN OFFICER ON THE BOARD TO ALSO BE SUING THE BOARD? DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR AN OFFICER OF THE BOARD TO BE ACTIVELY RAISING MONEY FOR A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE SAME BOARD? DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR AN OFFICER ON THE BOARD TO BE ENGAGING IN HYPER-PARTISAN MEDIA ATTENTION IN WHICH THEY ARE REFERRED TO AS CONSERVATIVE BOARD MEMBERS? I THOUGHT THESE POSITIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE NONPARTISAN. THIS ALSO TELLS ME THAT THE MEDIA ATTENTION IS PERHAPS MORE VALUABLE THAN THE OUTCOME OF THE ACTUAL CASE. DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AN OFFICER ON THE BOARD THAT USES THEIR POLITICAL INFLUENCE IN THE COUNTY TO WITHHOLD FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THE VERY DISTRICT THEY ARE ELECTED TO SERVE? DO YOU THINK IT'S OK FOR A BOARD OFFICER TO SKIP A MEETING ON STUDENT OUTCOMES AND INSTEAD GO TO A PROTEST? OK, AS FAR AS THE RESOLUTION ON HATE SPEECH AND INTOLERANCE, I THINK SOME OF US ACTUALLY HAVE OUR WIRES CROSSED ON WHAT CONDEMNING INTOLERANCE MEANS. THAT MEANS PROMOTING TOLERANCE. IT'S A DOUBLE NEGATIVE. I WISH IT HAD BEEN WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY. SO IT MEANS THAT EVERYONE HAS A VOICE AND WE ALL GET TO SPEAK AND WE COMPROMISE OUR STRICTER MASK MANDATE GOT A BIG OLD LOOPHOLE. WHY WAS THAT NOT ENOUGH? WHY DID TWO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THINK IT WAS FINE TO FILL THIS ROOM WITH 60 UNMASKED PEOPLE AT THE HEIGHT OF THE DELTA VARIANT? THIS ALL STARTED WITH THOUSANDS OF PARENTS WANTING TO KEEP THEIR KIDS AND COMMUNITY SAFE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNOR REFUSED TO ACT. HOW DID IT ALL SNOWBALL TO THIS, TO PEOPLE BEING CALLED COMMUNISTS AND CHILD ABUSERS FOR WANTING TO SLOW DOWN COVID? I HAVE WITNESSED AN ASIAN-AMERICAN PARENT GET CALLED A COMMUNIST AND WAS ALSO TOLD A VERY MEAN THING THAT I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT. I CALLED OUT THE PERSON AND IT GOT REMOVED BY FACEBOOK. I DOUBT A RESOLUTION WILL CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT WHY NOT? REALLY? WHY NOT? [00:40:03] [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ELAINE LEE AND YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR I AND M6 AND SAME THING, YOU CAN DO BOTH NOW, BUT NOT. I AM ROUND ROCK PARENT. TODAY'S THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE TEACHERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK FOR THE SEMESTER. AND I'M HERE TO THANK TRUSTEE VESSA FOR PROPOSING ITEM M6 AND I TRUST THE BOARD WOULD TAKE A FIRM STAND AGAINST HATEFUL LANGUAGE AND BEHAVIOR THAT HAVE UNFORTUNATELY OCCURRED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT I WANT TO VOICE MY STRONGEST OBJECTION TO ELECTING EITHER TRUSTEE WESTON OR TRUSTEE BONE AS BOARD OFFICERS. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEY WERE ACTIVE VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY AT ONE POINT. THEY WERE VALUED MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, THEIR ACTIONS HAVE MADE IT PAINFULLY APPARENT. THEIR PRIORITY NOW IS TO PROMOTING THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF SERVING OUR STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY. I THINK ELECTING THEM TO THE BOARD WOULD ONLY CAUSE MORE DISRUPTION AND DAMAGE TO THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] OUR NEXT SPEAKER OF SOMEONE,[INAUDIBLE], I KNOW, IS STANDING RIGHT OUT THERE WITH. I KNOW SHE'S HAVING ISSUES, BUT. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE], AND I'M A ROUND ROCK ISD PARENT. TRUSTEE WESTON, YOU SPEAK OPENLY OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND THE COST OF NEGLECTING IT. YOU CALLED THIS INCREASE IN SUICIDE A PANDEMIC AND YOU OBSESSED OVER SEPTEMBER BEING THE AWARENESS MONTH. YOU SAY THE STUDENT OUTCOMES ARE YOUR FIRST PRIORITY, DEMANDING 70 PERCENT BEYOND GRADE LEVEL. YET YOU DISMISS THE SUGGESTIONS OF BRINGING GROWTH MINDSET INTO OUR SCHOOLS. YOU LEAD A PARADE OF HATE AND VIOLENCE TO OUR DOORS. YOU DISMISS THE NEEDS OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE STUDENTS. ALL OF THESE ACTIONS YOU HAVE TAKEN ARE DIRECT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE INCREASE IN SUICIDE. I SUPPORT THE SENSOR AND I DO NOT SUPPORT YOU HOLDING ANY FURTHER OFFICE. TRUSTEE BONE. YOU STATED THAT IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO ACCOMMODATE ALL STUDENTS. I BELIEVE YOU FEEL THAT WAY, YOUR ACTIONS AND WORDS BOTH SHOW THAT YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE STUDENTS ARE AND YOU OPENLY DISMISS THEIR NEEDS, YOUR ACTIONS SPREAD HATE AND FALSE INFORMATION. I SUPPORT THE SENSOR AND DO NOT SUPPORT YOU HOLDING ANY FURTHER OFFICE. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE] ON I1. HELLO, MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] I AM THE PROUD FATHER OF THREE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN IN THE MCNEIL FEEDING PATTERN. AND I COME TO YOU TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU NOT MAKE A GRAVE MISTAKE. I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE BOARD MEETINGS FROM THE COMFORT OF MY HOME UNTIL LATE INTO THE NIGHT FOR A WHILE NOW. WELL, WHEN I HEARD THE TRUSTEE, WESTON AND BONE MIGHT BE ELECTED TO AN OFFICER POSITION ON THIS BOARD, I DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO SHOW UP AND SPEAK OUT. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, GIVE MORE CONTROL OF THIS BODY TO TWO PEOPLE THAT ASSOCIATE WITH KNOWN TERRORISTS, RACISTS, AND HATE GROUPS. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO PUT TWO TRUSTEES THAT YOU WANT TO CENSURE IN A PLACE OF AUTHORITY. THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME FOR OUR DISTRICT. WE CAN GO THE WAY OF INTOLERANCE AND WHITEWASHING, OR WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO STAND UP TO THE LOUD BULLYING, SMALL CROWD. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN STUDENTS ACHIEVING THEIR GOALS. THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL GOALS. I COULD HAVE WATCHED FROM HOME TONIGHT, BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO LOOK EACH OF YOU IN THE EYES WHEN I SAY, DO NOT SOUTHLAKE, MY ROUND ROCK. [APPLAUSE] WE'VE GOT FOUR SPEAKERS WHO'VE SIGNED UP VIRTUALLY. ON THESE TWO AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL GIVE THEM JUST A SECOND. PRESIDENT WEIR, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ANY STUDENT SPEAKERS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE? NO. SO OUR FIRST VIRTUAL SPEAKER ACTUALLY SIGNED UP FOR G1, P1, AND P2. BOB KAZMAKIS. K-A-Z-M-A-K-I-S. I APOLOGIZE IF I'VE MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME. IF HE'S ON VIRTUALLY. OH. DO YOU SEE HIM? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO, OH, THERE WE GO. [00:45:03] YES, SIR, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, TWO MINUTES. RIGHT THEN. I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. I SEE SOME OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE ON THE DAIS KNOW ME ALREADY AND RATHER THAN JUST G1, I'D ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE THIS I1. CERTAIN TRUSTEES ON PROFESSIONALISM. THEY'RE NARCISSISTIC BEHAVIOR, THEIR LACK OF DECORUM. THEY'VE LAID IT OUT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MECHANISM FOR DISCIPLINE FOR TRUSTEES WITH SOME TEETH TO IT. THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE GALL TO BE CONSIDERED FOR AN OFFICER POSITION DESPITE THEIR ACTIONS IS IT'S BASICALLY WHAT PETULANT, UNDISCIPLINED CHILDREN DO. WHEN THEY'RE CAUGHT MISBEHAVING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE IS A LAG ON THIS STREAM, APPARENTLY, AS WELL. JUST A HEADS UP THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS DESPITE THEIR ACTIONS, DESPITE THEIR MISBEHAVIOR, ET CETERA. IT'S HYPOCRISY FLAT OUT, FLAT OUT. THEY WANT TO CLAIM THAT THEY WANT TO ADDRESS THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION THAT THE DISTRICT HAS RECEIVED, DESPITE THEM BOTH STARTING AND FANNING THE FLAMES PERSONALLY AND BY PROXY, CONSIDERING THEM FOR ANY SORT OF LEADERSHIP POSITION GIVEN THE DAMAGE THAT THEY'VE DONE TO THE DISTRICT'S REPUTATION. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IF NOTHING ELSE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE LAST BOARD MEETING OF THE YEAR DOESN'T END WITH AN OOPSIE DOODLE AND INSTEAD MAKE SOME SERIOUS PROGRESS TOWARDS REPAIRING THE DAMAGE THAT THEY'VE DONE. AND THAT INCLUDES MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN INFLICT ANY MORE DAMAGE. THIRTY SECONDS. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JACK CHILES SPEAKING ON P1 AND P2. MR. CHILES, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH, I SEE THE NAME. EVENING EVERYONE APOLOGIES. MY VOICE IS SHOT. I'M ILL AT THE MOMENT. I'D SHOW UP IN PERSON, BUT TRUSTEE WESTON IS RABBIT FANS SAW FIT TO DOX ME. THEY'VE ASKED FOR PICTURES TO IDENTIFY ME AT BOARD MEETINGS AND INTIMIDATE ME. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES, YES. OK. YEAH, I THINK THE LAST GUY WAS RIGHT, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME LAG HERE. SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. PLEASE CONTINUE. WOW THIS IS LAGGY. IT'S OBVIOUS. JUST MAKE IT QUICK. IT'S REALLY OBVIOUS THAT CLOSED DOOR SESSION INFORMATION IS MAKING ITS WAY TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT. A COUPLE OF PARENTS WHO ARE IN LEGAL ALTERCATIONS WITH THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN OVERHEARD IN THE HALLS BOASTING OF SUCH. AND ONE OF THEM IS ON CAMERA WHEN HE MADE CLAIMS THAT HE'D HEARD AGENDA ITEMS AND NON AGENDA ITEMS DISCUSSED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WHO ENGAGE WITH THESE PEOPLE IS RIDICULOUSLY SMALL, SO THAT'S AT LEAST A HINT AS TO WHO THE LEAKS ARE. I WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT SHOULD A TRUSTEE BE FOUND TO BE LEAKING CLOSED DOOR INFORMATION, THAT'S A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR WHICH MAKES THEM IMMEDIATELY ELIGIBLE FOR JUDICIAL REMOVAL. [COUGHING] NEEDLESS TO SAY, I DON'T SUPPORT BONE, I DON'T SUPPORT WESTON, AND IF THEY GET THEMSELVES INTO ANY SORT OF LEADERSHIP POSITION, WE'LL ALL BE DIGGING OURSELVES OUT FROM UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF PROBLEMS. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT.[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. LET ME SEE, IS IT OK, WE HAVE TWO MORE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. THEY'VE ROBYN [INAUDIBLE], YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR I1 AND M5. YES, THANK YOU. I'M ALSO GOING TO ADD SOMETHING QUICK ABOUT M6 AS WELL. [00:50:01] MY NAME IS ROBIN [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M THE PARENT OF A VIRTUAL THIRD GRADER. FIRST, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH, I'M SORRY. YES. WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM I AND P. WELL, IF SHE WANTS TO DO I AND M AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN, BUT YOU'VE ONLY SIGNED UP FOR M5. OK, SO SORRY, GO AHEAD. I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. IT WAS NOT WORKING. POOR FOR M6 AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, IT SHOULDN'T BE CONTENTIOUS THAT THAT WOULD BE SHAMEFUL, THAT IT IS. AS FOR ITEM I1 WON A VOTE FOR BONE OR WESTON IS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE CHAOTIC, HATEFUL, AND DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR THEY EXHIBIT AND ENCOURAGE AMONG THEIR FOLLOWERS FROM DISRUPTING MEETINGS TO HANGING WITH STEVE BANNON. I IMPLORE YOU TO VOTE NO ON BOTH. AS FOR ITEM M5, WHY DIDN'T THE DISTRICT RESPECT ITS VIRTUAL APPEARANCE ENOUGH TO CONSULT THEM BEFORE PREMATURELY ENDING THE PROGRAM? PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS NATIONWIDE ARE TELLING US NOT TO GATHER INDOORS, BUT YOU WANT TO BRING PARENTS INTO THE BUILDINGS IN JANUARY WITH NO MASK MANDATE. THE DISTRICT IS PERPETUATING THE PANDEMIC AND DRIVING MY FAMILY AWAY. PLEASE BRING BACK THE VIRTUAL OPTION NOW. ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT, OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THESE ITEMS IS [INAUDIBLE]. AGAIN, YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR I1, M5, AND M6 YOU CAN DO THEM ALL NOW, BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THE OTHER TWO LATER WHEN WE DO THE OTHER SPEAKERS. I UNDERSTAND. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE], AND I'M A PARENT OF TWO IN ROUND ROCK ISD. I OPPOSE TRUSTEE WESTON AND TRUSTEE BONE FOR ANY OFFICE POSITION ON THIS BOARD, AND I FULLY SUPPORT THEIR CENSURE. BOTH TRUSTEES HAVE UNAPOLOGETICALLY DISPLAYED A LACK OF REGARD FOR THE BOARD'S MAJORITY DECISIONS AND STANDARD PROTOCOLS. FURTHERMORE, THEY HAVE ACTIVELY COMPROMISED THE GENERAL SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY BY MODELING DISREGARD FOR OUR MASKING PROTOCOLS AND BY LAUNCHING A NATIONWIDE SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST OUR SCHOOL BOARD ON FAR RIGHT AND EXTREMIST MEDIA OUTLETS. WE MUST NOT FURTHER EMPOWER THESE TRUSTEES WHO HAVE NOW PLACED A TARGET ON OUR BACKS. AS FOR M5, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT RESOLUTION. AS A PARENT, I HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE OF MY CHILD, THEIR HEALTH, THEIR EMOTIONAL STATE, THEIR CULTURE, THEIR DAILY ROUTINE, AND THEIR SUCCESS IN SCHOOL OVER TIME. PARENTS ARE INTEGRAL PARTNERS FOR IMPROVING STUDENT INDIVIDUAL, EXCUSE ME, INDIVIDUAL STUDENT OUTCOMES. HOWEVER, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT MY EXPERTISE AND THEREFORE MY RIGHTS AS A PARENT AND WITH MY CHILD, I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE MY INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS ON CURRICULUM, COMMUNITY STANDARDS, OR PUBLIC HEALTH ON OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. THOSE PEOPLE ARE CALLED EDUCATORS, SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS, PEDIATRICIANS. THEY HAVE YEARS OF TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE, AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO LONGITUDINAL RESEARCH AND DATA ABOUT VAST NUMBERS OF STUDENTS. PLEASE LISTEN TO THESE EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS THAT IMPACT ALL OUR KIDS. [APPLAUSE] WELL, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO THOSE ARE OUR SPEAKERS. GIVE IT ONE SECOND. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER SIGN UP F1, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT ANNOUNCEMENT REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION ON ITEMS I1 AND P1 AND P2. SO OUR ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT OUR TA MONITOR TEAM HAS OUR TA MONITOR HAS BEEN ASSIGNED. DR. DAVID [INAUDIBLE] AS TA MONITOR. DR. [INAUDIBLE] ROLE WILL INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, THE FOLLOWING PARTICIPATING IN AND REPORTING TO THE AGENCY ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SUPERINTENDENT IN GOVERNING THE DISTRICT, WORKING WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES THAT LED TO THE NONCOMPLIANCE AND REPORT TO THE AGENCY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS EDUCATION CODE CHAPTER 11 SUBCHAPTER D POWER AND DUTIES OF A BOARD OF TRUSTEES. HE WILL BE ATTENDING BOARD MEETINGS, INCLUDING EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AS NECESSARY AND SUBMITTING MONTHLY REPORTS DOCUMENTING AND EVALUATING THE DISTRICT'S PROGRESS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE APPOINTMENT OF A MONITOR DOES NOT RELIEVE THE DISTRICT AND ITS GOVERNING BODY OF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO AT ALL TIMES OPERATE THE DISTRICT IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE STATUTES AND RULES. WE HOPE TO INTRODUCE DR. [INAUDIBLE] NEXT MONTH WHEN HE CAN BE HERE IN PERSON. OK, WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 AND 551.074. [00:55:06] THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 AND 551.074. THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER AND EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING DISCUSSION OF INITIATING TRUSTEE CENTER PROCESS TO PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, COMMUNICATIONS AND POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION TO REVIEW POTENTIAL UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES. ALL RIGHT, IT IS 6:25 AND WE HAVE. I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? MADAM PRESIDENT, SINCE MY ATTORNEY IS HERE AND AVAILABLE NOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING REGARDING ME ON ITEM P, I'M REQUESTING THAT WE DO THAT FIRST AND I'D LIKE TO EXERCISE MY OPTION TO HAVE IT DONE IN OPEN SESSION.[APPLAUSE] YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S FINE FOR P1. I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER ON THE EMAILS THAT I PRINTED FOR YOU, ARE THERE ANY? YEAH, I PRINTED ALL. I BROUGHT A WHOLE STACK OF EMAILS, REMEMBER, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ANY OF THEM. MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED ABOUT OTHER TRUSTEES. I THINK MS. WESTON SAYING IS THE ISSUES RAISED ABOUT HER. SHE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN OPEN SESSION WITH HER ATTORNEY, PRESENT, AND THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. OK. WE'VE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE. THANK YOU. MY LAST DAY, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] YOU'RE NOT CLAPPING AS LOUD AS I AM. [LAUGHTER] SO, OK, SO THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS DUTIES, RULES, AND PRINCIPLES. AND YOU'VE ASKED THAT YOU'RE INITIATING THE CENSURE PROCESS BE HELD IN OPEN SESSION IF IT WAS REGARDING YOU. AND THAT'S FOR P1 AND P2 WHILE MY ATTORNEY IS HERE, IF ANYTHING ON EITHER OF THOSE. P2 IS NOT ONE THAT, IT'S NOT. IT IS NOT. IT'S 551.071 WHICH IS JUST US IN THE BACK. BUT THE FIRST ONE 551.074 IS OBVIOUSLY YES, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO BRING IT OUT HERE. OK, SO YOU DO PLAN TO DISCUSS THIS ON ME, P1? THERE WERE ALL BUT ONE OF US. ON THIS, SO YES. OK, MAY I JUST GET HIM A CHAIR AND WE'LL GET STARTED? I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? TO GET HIM A CHAIR AND. OH. AND GET STARTED? ARE WE GOING TO I MEAN, I GUESS WE NEED TO DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THIS LIKE A GRIEVANCE PROCESS WHERE THERE'S. I THINK. SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THIS IS NOT A FORMAL GRIEVANCE. THIS IS A MATTER THAT WAS JUST TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT IF YOU WERE TO JUST TREAT IT AS A K-1 DISCUSSION, YOU WOULD BE NORMALLY HAVING A DISCUSSION IN A CLOSED SETTING. SHARING THE CONCERNS THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER BOARD MEMBERS CONDUCT. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT YOU JUST STATE THOSE CONCERNS HERE AS SHE'S ASKED AND IF SHE WISHES TO REPLY DIRECTLY OR HAVE HER ATTORNEY REPLY DIRECTLY THAT THAT BE DONE. BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT OF A SET TIME. JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE AMOUNT OF STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY OTHERS REGARDING HER CONDUCT. SO IF IT'S A FEW MINUTES, IT'S A FEW MINUTES. OK. SO I'LL JUST GET HIM A CHAIR RIGHT HERE, AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT ON P2, MY ATTORNEY P2 IS NOT ABOUT ME. SO THERE'S NO REASON. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO P1 AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BRING P1 INTO OPEN AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. P2. THIS THE INITIAL PART OF P2 IS NOT IN OPEN, IT'S 071 IS US AND OUR ATTORNEY, OUR BOARD'S ATTORNEY. BUT I MEAN, OR. TRUSTEE BONE, DID YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? I DID. SINCE YOU DIDN'T GIVE US ANY HEADS UP ON WHAT THIS WAS OR WHO THIS WAS ABOUT, I ALSO WOULD LIKE MINE IN PUBLIC AND I ALSO SHARE THE SAME ATTORNEYS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECONFIGURE THE DIAS. YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE TRUSTEES, SO YOU'RE GOOD. [01:00:03] [LAUGHTER] OK. OH, EXCUSE ME. THIS SEEMS ODD TO HAVE ATTORNEYS SIT ON THE DAIS. HE SHOULD SIT OVER THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF WEIRD. KIND OF WEIRD. I MEAN, IT REALLY DOES SEEM ODD. I MEAN, WE'VE THERE'S NO ENTITLEMENT TO A PARTICULAR PLACE ON THE DAIS. IF I THINK THIS CAN BE DONE RATHER QUICKLY, SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THROUGH IT, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE OPTIMAL THING TO DO RATHER THAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON LOGISTICS. WELL, DR. AZAIEZ GAVE HIS GAVE HIS SEAT, SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THIS FOR RIGHT NOW. AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH, WE WERE PRESENTED BY LEGAL STAFF INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD BEEN BCC PEOPLE AND FORWARDING EMAILS THAT WERE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED. AND THEY HAD COME TO LIGHT, AND WE HEARD THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME ON NOVEMBER 18TH, IT WAS DURING A PIA REQUEST THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO. AND ACTUALLY, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO SAY WHO'S PIA REQUESTS BECAUSE HE DID TELL US, I DON'T KNOW IF I THINK THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT IN OPEN. SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY NORMALLY THIS DISCUSSION HAPPENS IN CLOSED SESSION. ACCORDING TO BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CONCERNING BEHAVIORS OF K1 AND OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. I KNOW MR. [INAUDIBLE] REFERENCED K1, BUT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT K1 ON THE ON THE AGENDA, IT'S BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES K1. AND SO THERE IS CONCERNING BEHAVIOR ABOUT THE COPYING, BLIND COPYING WITHOUT ANYONE'S KNOWLEDGE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT CLEARLY STATED CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. SO HAD THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED IN IN CLOSED SESSION AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO IN THE PROCESS, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING IS THAT THAT'S A CONCERNING BEHAVIOR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH ME? I GUESS I. HMM. IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT YOU WERE BCC 50, UP TO 50 PEOPLE ON EMAILS THAT WERE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. I MEAN, THAT'S CONCERNING THAT YOU WERE FORWARDING EMAILS THAT WERE CLEARLY STATED ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. SO I MEAN, NORMALLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A K-1 DISCUSSION IN THE BACK AND WHAT WE WOULD HAVE DECIDED IF IT WAS K-1 AS A GROUP. I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN DO THAT OUT HERE, AS WE DID AT THE EARLIER TIME. TRUSTEE VESSA. MY RECOLLECTION IS THE ONE THAT WAS MARKED ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED. I ONLY REMEMBER IT BEING TO ONE PERSON. THERE WERE OTHERS THAT HAD MULTIPLE, BUT THAT ONE WAS THE ONE PERSON. THE PROBLEM BECOMES THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT ONE PERSON FORWARDED IT TO. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE SENDING COMMUNICATION OUT INTO THE PUBLIC. THEN AT THAT POINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE. AND SO THAT'S CONCERNING JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S IT'S ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. SO THAT BUT I LOOKED IT THROUGH THEM VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD WHAT, WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHAT WAS WHAT HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, SENT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY RECOLLECTION IS FROM THAT PARTICULAR ONE IN THE SUBJECT LINE, SAID ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION. THERE WAS ONE RECIPIENT, AND I THINK MR. WOOLSTON HAS A. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE WERE ACTUALLY THAT EMAIL WAS SENT TO TWO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS IN TWO SEPARATE EMAILS. AND THERE ARE ALSO EMAILS THE ONES THAT YOU DISCUSSED WITH BCC, THEY ALSO INCLUDED DELIBERATIVE PROCESS INFORMATION AS WELL THAT WAS CONFIDENTIAL UNDER THAT EXCEPTION. CAN I CAN I CLARIFY, IS THIS THE ONE THAT IT WAS A LETTER WRITTEN BY BOARD COUNSEL DOUG [INAUDIBLE] AND ACTING GENERAL COUNSEL JENNY WELLS. IS THAT THE ONE YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT? OK. SO REGARDING THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT EMAIL SPECIFICALLY ACTUALLY DOES NOT ENJOY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE BECAUSE THREATENING LETTERS SENT TO INDIVIDUALS DO NOT ENJOY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. DO YOU HAVE A LEGAL BASIS FOR THAT? NO COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. MAY I FINISH? THANK YOU. THAT WAS AN UNSOLICITED, THREATENING LETTER, NOT LEGAL ADVICE WRITTEN TO ME AND [01:05:05] DR. BONE BY THE BOARD ATTORNEY AND THE DISTRICT GENERAL COUNSEL, THAT THREATENING LETTER IS CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT OF ACTIVE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH THE TEXAS BAR BY NUMEROUS PARTIES. SOME BELIEVE THIS LETTER AMOUNTS TO A SECTION 36.03 VIOLATION OF THE PENAL CODE, WHICH IS COERCION OF A PUBLIC SERVANT. GIVEN THIS, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE. MR. [INAUDIBLE] IT'S PROBABLY BEST FOR YOU TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER. I DO APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES TAKING THE TIME TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS WITH ME. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THESE EMAILS WERE SENT AND RECEIVED BACK IN AUGUST, AND AT THE TIME THE BOARD COUNSEL AND GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE DISTRICT WERE ON THOSE EMAILS AND EXPRESSED ZERO CONCERN. IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER A LAWSUIT WAS INITIATED AND THE LAWSUIT GOING INTO A FAVORABLE DIRECTION IN MY FAVOR THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE DECIDED TO ELEVATE THIS FROM WHAT REALLY AMOUNTS TO A TRAINING ISSUE PER AN EMAIL WE RECEIVED FROM MR. WILSON TO ANYTHING ELSE. AND AS MY ATTORNEY WHO SPEAKS. POINT OF ORDER, COME ON, WE WE NEED TO KEEP ORDER IN HERE. OK, MY ATTORNEY, AS WE ALL KNOW, SPEAKS FOR ME AND HAS SOMETHING TO SAY. SO HI, EVERYONE, AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALL WANT TO GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF TEACHING OUR STUDENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS IN SCHOOL. I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED HERE. I WILL SAY I LOOK AT THIS AGENDA ITEM P AND IT SAYS THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE DUTIES, ROLES, AND RESPONSIBILITY OF PUBLIC OFFICER, INCLUDING DISCUSSION OF INITIATING TRUSTEE CENTER PROCESS. I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. THERE IS A TITLE IN HERE. IT'S UNDER K IT, SAYS BOARD SANCTIONS. CENSURE IS THE THIRD STEP IN THE PROCESS OF THE BOARD SANCTIONS, THE FOURTH STEP IN HERE IS ONE WHERE YOU CAN WITHHOLD FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND DO OTHER THINGS, THE FIRST TWO STEPS ARE DIFFERENT THINGS TO PUT ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INITIATE THE TRUSTEE CENSURE PROCESS WOULD COMPLETELY VIOLATE WHAT THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES REQUIRE. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, HOPEFULLY, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THE RULE OF LAW. IT'S WHAT WE TEACH OUR CHILDREN EVERY DAY. IT'S WHAT THEY ARE TAUGHT BY THEIR TEACHERS, IT'S WHAT YOU EXPECT. WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES. TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS AN INITIATION OF THE CENSURE PROCESS AND JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON WHAT GOES ON HERE IS THAT IF THERE IS A VIOLATION. AT ALL IN ALLEGED VIOLATION THAN THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SESSION IN WHICH THEY TALK LIKE YOU'RE DOING, WHICH I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS IMPROPER TO DO THIS. YOU TALK WITH THE TRUSTEE AND YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE POSITION AND TRY TO SEE ABOUT WORKING IT OUT. STEP TWO IS ONLY IF THE TRUSTEE CONTINUES TO DO TO PERFORM OR TO VIOLATE THE SAME RULE. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER STEP WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND YOU DISCUSS THAT. STEP THREE IS IF THEY CONTINUE TO VIOLATE A THIRD TIME, THE EXACT SAME RULE, THEN YOU CAN INITIATE A CENSURE PROCESS. TO SUGGEST HERE TODAY AND HAVE TO HAVE ME COME IN TO TRY TO DEFEND TRUSTEE WESTON IS REALLY IMPROPER BECAUSE OF THE SUGGESTION HERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO INITIATE A CENSURE PROCESS. WE NEED TO FOLLOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. I'M NOT TAKING SIDES HERE IN TERMS OF WHO'S RIGHT OR WHO'S WRONG. BUT WE DO NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES AGAIN IF WE'RE GOING TO TEACH OUR STUDENTS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW IT AS WELL. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY CATCH YOUR NAME. YEAH. KEVIN [INAUDIBLE] OK. IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO BECAUSE IT'S REALLY US, RIGHT? I'M TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE IN FRONT OF ME. WELL, OK. SO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED EXACTLY AS WE HANDLED IT PREVIOUSLY WITH ANOTHER TRUSTEE [01:10:01] AT TRUSTEE WESTON'S REQUEST, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED ENCLOSED AS OUR BOARD POLICY STATES. SHE'S CHOSEN TO DO IT OUT HERE, AND THAT IS HER CHOICE, AND I RESPECT THAT. BUT TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE DOING THIS DIFFERENTLY FOR HER THAN WE'VE DONE JUST A MONTH AGO FOR TRUSTEE XIAO IS A LITTLE. I'M UNAWARE OF WHAT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT OF ORDER IS, IF I SHOULD OR CAN RESPOND TO THIS, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED WITH TRUSTEE XIAO, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA ITEM. IT WAS EXACTLY LIKE THIS, IDENTICAL TO THIS. AND AT THE TIME, I DID NOT CATCH IT BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY LONG AGENDA IN NOVEMBER. BUT I DID BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION 10 DAYS AGO THAT THE WAY THIS IS WORDED IS IMPROPER, AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED YOU TO CHANGE IT. AND YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE IT WAS WORDED THIS WAY IN NOVEMBER THAT YOU WOULD NOT CHANGE IT. MY APOLOGIES THAT I DID NOT CATCH THAT OF ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH AGENDA. I DID NOT CATCH THAT, BUT I DID REQUEST THAT YOU CHANGE IT AND POST THIS PROPERLY TODAY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROPER POSTING IS GIVING NOTICE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. AND THERE IS NOTICE, AND IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME NOTICE THAT WE GAVE OTHER TRUSTEES AND IT I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO LET TRUSTEE FELLER. I GOT KEVIN. I DIDN'T GET A LAST NAME, SO I'M SORRY IF YOU DON'T. IF YOU DON'T MIND ME CALLING YOU, KEVIN, YOU BRING UP RULE OF LAW. AND I JUST WANTED TO READ EXACTLY WHAT OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES SAY. IT SAYS IF THE TRUSTEE CONTINUES TO VIOLATE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND OR BOARD POLICY, NOWHERE IN THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES DOES IT SAY THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR AS YOU STATED JUST A MOMENT AGO. IT SAYS IF THE TRUSTEE CONTINUES TO VIOLATE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND OR BOARD POLICY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU SAID THAT IF THE TRUSTEE DOES THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR, IT DOES NOT SAY THAT IN OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. CAN YOU TRUSTEE FELLER, CAN YOU TELL US WHICH DATE YOU'RE USING? THERE'S TWO BOARD POLICIES. I'M USING THE MOST CURRENT VERSION THAT WAS APPROVED ON MARCH 28, 2019. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER TRUSTEE XIAO? DID YOU HAVE A. YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT, BUT NOT A NICE ONE. [LAUGHTER] WELL, ALL RIGHT, THEN MAYBE DON'T DO IT. BECAUSE KEVIN IS HIS NAME, KEVIN. YEAH, HE TALK ABOUT TEACH CHILDREN LESSONS AND STUFF. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TEACH CHILDREN LESSONS, TEACH CHILDREN LESSONS THAT NOT JUST SOMEBODY PAY YOU, YOU JUST DEFEND A CRIMINAL AND GET AWAY. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. OK, WELL, THE WAY WE HANDLED THIS LAST TIME IS WE. I HAVE FOUR COMMENTS. WELL, AND CAN I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TRUSTEE OR SO ARE YOU DOING THE CENSURE PROCESS OR ARE WE IN THE SANCTION PROCESS? I THINK THAT WAS. WE'RE DOING IT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY WE DID LAST MONTH. WHAT, YOU SAY WE'RE DOING IT. WHAT IS IT OR IS IT THE CENSURE PROCESS OR THE SANCTION PROCESS? WE'RE DOING DOING K-1 DECIDING AS A BOARD, AS WE DID LAST WEEK WITH THIS EXACT SAME LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS ARE NOT CLEAR OR THEY'RE WORDED. MAYBE WRONG, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG ONCE AND REPEATING IT TWICE DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. SO I DO THINK IT IS SLIGHTLY IMPROPER BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED ON WHAT WE WERE DOING TONIGHT, WHICH PART I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK WE SHOULD SAY K1 THEN BECAUSE THROUGHOUT. WELL, WE CAN'T UNTIL WE'VE DECIDED. I MEAN, THAT'S. WELL, MAYBE WE SANCTION PROCESS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR BOARD POLICY DOES CALL, I THINK, DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPEN TRUSTEE FELLER? IS IT CALLED THE SANCTION PROCESS? CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT IN THE? THE TITLE OF THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES IS K BOARD OF SANCTIONS, NUMBER ONE JUST SAYS HAS A DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION I'M SUMMARIZING. NUMBER TWO SAYS IF THEY CONTINUE, YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION. NUMBER THREE SAYS PUBLIC CENSURE. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT IT'S REASONABLY UNDERSTOOD THAT A CENSURE AND A SANCTION ARE USED SYNONYMOUSLY BECAUSE CENSURE IS IN THIS SECTION. YEAH, I JUST I THINK CLARITY IS GOOD. SO I THINK K IS BOARD SANCTIONS. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IN THE FUTURE WE CHANGE THAT. SO HERE I WILL NOT BE BOARD PRESIDENT, BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT IN [01:15:10] SOME INSTANCES, THE TWO OF YOU WANT ONE TRUSTEE TO BE ABLE TO PUT ANYTHING ON AN AGENDA AND IN OTHER INSTANCES YOU DON'T BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BECAUSE IF ONE I WANT TO DO K1. ON DANIELLE. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR. WE HAVE TO DECIDE AS A BOARD, WE HAVE TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LIKE WE DID WITH TRUSTEE XIAO AND SAY, DO WE AS A BOARD FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A K1 INSTANCE? I DON'T WANT ANYBODY. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I HAVE IRRITATED JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE I HAVE NOT PUT WHAT THEY'VE WANTED ON THEIR ON THE AGENDA AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT, I MEAN, PART OF IT IS. TRYING TO BE FAIR AND AND IF WE'VE DONE IT ONE WAY, YOU CAN SAY, OH, WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE IT EVERY TIME, BUT IF WE'VE DONE IT ONE WAY FOR ONE TRUSTEE, THE FAIR THING TO DO IS TO DO IT THE SAME WAY AND DECIDE AS A BOARD IF THIS REALLY COUNTED AS A K-1. AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, THIS BOARD CAN DECIDE AND WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT IN PRIVATE IN BACK THERE. BUT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE DOING IT OUT HERE. FINE. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME AWKWARD WAY AS IT WAS LAST TIME. SO MAYBE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF CONSIDER POSSIBLE K-1 ON TRUSTEE WESTON MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE HELPFUL BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT ASSERTING THAT IT'S HAPPENING. IT IS JUST SORT OF A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. AND I JUST WANT TO. OK. YEAH, WE'RE REALLY NOT POSTED FOR AGENDA SETTING, AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP, I WILL SAY THAT I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED FOR PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS BEING VAGUE. BUT THAT WILL BE FOR WHOEVER TAKES THIS SEAT NEXT. OK, WELL, I'LL JUST SHARE THAT TO MY COLLEAGUES, TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. YOU SHOULD BE ADVISED THAT YOU WERE NOT PROVIDED WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THESE EMAIL THREADS. YOU HAVE RECEIVED A VERSION THAT SOMEONE AN UNKNOWN PARTY IN THE ADMINISTRATION, REDACTED KEY INFORMATION FROM. I WILL SHARE ONE EXAMPLE, BUT THERE ARE MORE. BOARD PRESIDENT AMY WEIR IS ON AT LEAST ONE OF THESE EMAILS IN QUESTION AND REPLIED ALL TO THE PEOPLE ON THE EMAIL, ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU WERE ONLY PROVIDED PARTS OF AN EMAIL THREAD INTENDED TO REFLECT POORLY ON ME INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION. MS. ACTUALLY TRUSTEE HARRISON, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON. AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT. TRUSTEE, I JUST SO OUR CONCERN FOR THIS DISCUSSION WAS YOU BLIND COPYING? I MEAN, FOR SOMEONE WHO TALKS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND GOVERNMENT AND TO CONSISTENTLY BLIND COPY INDIVIDUALS ON EMAILS, IT SEEMS VERY DISINGENUOUS. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I DON'T I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOUR INTENT IS. I CAN JUST TELL YOU HOW I HAVE INTERPRETED IT. BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO CONTINUALLY SAYS TRANSPARENCY, OPEN GOVERNMENT, WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THEN YOU COPY PEOPLE AND NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. AND THIS REALLY ONLY CAME UP BECAUSE OF AN ACCIDENTAL, NOT ACCIDENTAL, BUT BECAUSE OF AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. AND THESE DOCUMENTS WERE PRINTED OUT. AND THAT'S WHEN THE BLIND COPY FIELD SHOWED UP, AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WERE BEING NOTIFIED OF ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. IF YOU FELT THAT THESE PEOPLE NEEDED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. WHY NOT PUT THEM ON THE CC FIELD? I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. YES, IT IS. AND I HAVE AN ANSWER. SO IT'S ACTUALLY AGAINST THE LAW FOR US AS MEMBERS OF A GOVERNMENT BODY TO SHARE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO THE NEXT. IN FACT, FORMER TRUSTEE TERRY [INAUDIBLE] ENDURED A REFERRAL TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HER COLLEAGUES WERE VERY UPSET THAT SHE SHARED ONE CITIZENS' EMAIL WITH ANOTHER ON AN EMAIL THREAD. SO IN MY MIND, AND I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO MR. [01:20:03] WILSON'S ADVICE TO US FOR TRAINING, WHICH I HAVE REQUESTED MULTIPLE TIMES THIS BOARD RECEIVED TRAINING ON THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. AND I THINK THAT HIS ADVICE ON THIS FOR TRAINING FOR US IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE TAKEN TO HEART. BUT THE REASON FOR THE BCCS IS MY DESIRE TO EXERCISE LAWFUL BEHAVIOR AND NOT SHARING EMAIL ADDRESSES WITH OTHERS. IN ADDITION, AS A CHILD OF GOD, I AM IMPERFECT. [LAUGHTER] MAY I CONTINUE? WE HAVE TO KEEP ORDER, WE HAVE TO KEEP ORDER, PLEASE. MAY I CONTINUE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AS A CHILD OF GOD, I AM IMPERFECT AND IF I'M GOING TO BE ACCUSED OF ANYTHING. BEING TOO TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. I WILL WEAR THAT BADGE, AND I WILL ALSO COMMIT TO WHATEVER TRAINING IS RECOMMENDED. AS I SAID, I HAVE REQUESTED LOTS OF TRAINING FOR OUR BOARD, BUT IF I AM GUILTY OF BEING TOO TRANSPARENT, I CAN HEAR THAT. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY BACK TO THAT TRUSTEE WESTON IS I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO BE TRANSPARENT AND FOLLOW THE LAW. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEND AN EMAIL 10 TIMES TO 10 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PUT THEM ON THE CC LINE SO THAT IT'S NOT BEING SHARED, THERE IS A WAY TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND BE TRANSPARENT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT EVERYTHING'S BEING SHARED. CAN YOU TELL ME AM I BEING ACCUSED OF VIOLATING THE LAW? AND IF SO, CAN YOU CITE IT? I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I'M NOT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO DISCUSS CONCERNING BEHAVIOR. I AM NOT ACCUSING YOU OF ANYTHING. I AM TALKING ABOUT CONCERNING BEHAVIOR. AND IT IS CONCERNING TO ME AND SOME OF THE OTHER TRUSTEES THAT THERE HAVE BEEN RELEASES OF INFORMATION THAT NOBODY WAS AWARE OF. WELL, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE YOU ASSERTED TWICE ABOUT ME BEING UNLAWFUL. SO AGAIN, IF I COULD GET CLARITY. YOU SAID THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL TO TO GIVE INFORMATION EMAIL ADDRESSES. I UNDERSTAND THAT LAW, BUT I'M SAYING THAT YOU CAN BE LAWFUL AND TRANSPARENT AT THE SAME TIME BY SENDING AN INDIVIDUAL EMAIL EACH TIME. AND IF YOU THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT, SEND 10 DIFFERENT EMAILS TO 10 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS SO THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE WHAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO WHO. AND CAN I ASK WHO WHO EVERYONE IS LIKE? YOU KEEP SAYING EVERYONE'S AWARE, LIKE WE CAN'T COPY EACH OTHER. SO WHEN I'M JUST LIKE, I'M CURIOUS OF WHO YOU'RE THINKING BECAUSE TO ME, A CC AND BCC DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE WHO'S EVERYONE? WHO YOU'RE WANTING TO KNOW? WHAT THE EMAILS WERE REPLIED TO DISTRICT STAFF MEMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT STAFF MEMBER WAS NOT AWARE THAT 50 COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ALSO BEING COPIED ON THE SAME INFORMATION. I THINK. YOU'RE CONCERNED. I REALLY WANT US TO GET TO THE CONCERNS AND WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS THAT A STAFF MEMBER GOT SOME INFORMATION AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS GOT THE SAME INFORMATION. AND THAT'S YOUR CONCERN. NO, WAS THE STAFF MEMBER, WAS IT WITH THE STAFF MEMBER HAD SAID WAS. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY. OK, SO YOU JUST DON'T AGREE WITH BCC. YES, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BCC. OK. WELL, AND I WILL TELL YOU, I MEAN, I JUST PULLED UP THE EMAIL. SO THE CONCERNS WERE THAT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO MS. EVANS IN HER PIA REQUEST EXCEPT FOR THAT, YOU HAD ALREADY BCC PEOPLE AND SO OR EVEN INCLUDED PEOPLE. AND I WILL SAY ACTUALLY TRUSTEE BONE. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF TRUSTEE WESTON IS SENDING ME AN EMAIL AND SHE'S BLIND COPYING, HOWEVER MANY, I MEAN. I CAN'T EVEN COUNT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THIS, I MEAN, IT WOULD JUST BE KIND OF COMMON COURTESY, I DON'T I'M SURE IF I WAS SENDING YOU AN EMAIL IN MY OFFICIAL ROLE AS BOARD PRESIDENT AND BCC 50 PEOPLE, SO YOU HAD NO IDEA I WAS SHARING THAT INFORMATION THAT I WAS THAT WAS REALLY MEANT FOR YOU AS A TRUSTEE. YOU WOULD NOT FIND THAT APPROPRIATE. SO I WILL JUST SAY I IS BOARD PRESIDENT. WHEN YOU SEND ME AN OFFICIAL EMAIL AND YOU'VE CC TEA AND COUNCIL AND TRUSTEE BONE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HUGE BCC LATER. I MEAN, I JUST. SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING, CAN I JUST CAN WE CLARIFY, THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S PREFERENCES. SO THIS IS JUST YOUR PREFERENCE? NO, IT'S IT IS. I MEAN, IT IS. SO IS THERE A BOARD POLICY? SO IF I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE RULES THAT WE FOLLOW HERE, SO IS THERE A BOARD POLICY? I MEAN, BCC YOU KNOW, WE'VE CAUGHT UP ON THIS BCC. [01:25:01] THING. BUT I JUST I WANT TO PIVOT A LITTLE BIT TO THE MORE CONCERNING THING THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE JUST KIND OF RUSHING OVER. WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS EMAIL, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT BCC, WHICH IS WHAT TRUSTEE FELLER EVERYBODY IS SAYING, RIGHT? WE WANT THIS OUT THERE AND I SEE AMY WEIR. I SEE DR. AZAIEZ, I SEE DOUG [INAUDIBLE], JENNY WELLS. I SEE MYSELF, I SEE BILL [INAUDIBLE], I SEE DOYLE HOBBS, JEFFREY CANTRELL AND TOM MAYNARD. WHEN THAT WAS GOING ON MY CONCERN. MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I THINK THIS BOARD NEEDS TO ADDRESS IS THERE IS DOUG [INAUDIBLE] AND JENNY WELLS ON THIS AND WHY ARE WE HAVING THE CONCERN BUT ON AUGUST 28TH, THERE WAS NO CONCERN FROM DOUG [INAUDIBLE] OR JENNY WELLS. THAT IS A BIGGER QUESTION, I THINK, FOR THIS BOARD AND I THINK. WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEM, THOUGH, WHERE WE HEAR ABOUT TRUSTEES. WHOA, WHOA, I'M GETTING THERE. WHEN I COPY MY ATTORNEY ON SOMETHING AND MY ATTORNEY DOESN'T REPLY RIGHT AWAY, IN FACT, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS AN ATTORNEY TO LET THEIR CLIENTS KNOW WHEN THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL OR WRONG OR GOING TO HURT THE DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY WE PAY THEM. SO IF I AM IF I'M OPENLY COPYING OPENLY, RIGHT, THIS WAS NOT THIS WAS NOT BCC. THESE PEOPLE ARE OPENLY COPIED ON THESE EMAILS. THEY'RE BEING PAID TO READ THESE EMAILS AND THEY DON'T REPLY TO TRUSTEE WESTON. I THINK ANY OF US WOULD BE LIKE, OK, THESE EMAILS ARE FINE. I'VE SENT THEM TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALREADY. AND THEN LATER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRESSION LATER, TRUSTEE WESTON BCC, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THIS. BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN OKAYED BY JENNY WELLS AND DOUG [INAUDIBLE] NOT REPLYING, NOT SAYING, OH, STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IN FACT, THAT'S AUGUST 28TH. THIS IS DECEMBER 16TH. WHAT? WELL, IT JUST CAME UP [INAUDIBLE]. I MEAN, THAT'S AN EXCUSE. IT DIDN'T JUST COME UP. DOUG [INAUDIBLE] AND JENNY WELLS WERE COPIED ON THIS. THEY DIDN'T NEED TO FIND THIS IN A PIA. THIS WASN'T HIDDEN. HONESTLY, TRUSTEE WEIR, YOU WERE ON THIS. WHY DID YOU NOT? WHY WAS THE CONCERN NOT THEN? IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK FOUR MONTHS ALL THE TIME AND LOOK AT WHAT EACH OF US DID THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS? I DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I DIDN'T BRING UP A CONCERN HERE? YOU DIDN'T BRING IT UP BY EMAIL. WHEN YOU DID GET A LETTER, BOTH OF YOU WITH CONCERNS ABOUT BEHAVIOR THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE DISTRICT THAT TWO ATTORNEYS FELT WHERE THE DISTRICT WAS GOING TO BE PUT INTO JEOPARDY, YOU INSTEAD TOOK THAT AND YOU'VE, I MEAN, GOT ANOTHER ATTORNEY AND DECIDED THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO LISTEN TO THAT ADVICE. AND THEN BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING, OH, YOU SHOULD TELL ME, BUT IF YOU TELL ME AND I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, THEN I'M JUST GOING TO DO WHATEVER I WANT. NO, ACTUALLY, EVERY TIME THAT THIS BOARD HAS, I THINK, CORRECTED EITHER ONE OF US, WE'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED THAT BEHAVIOR, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. AND THAT LETTER THAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING THAT EMAIL, I HAVE MULTIPLE EMAILS TO JENNY WELLS AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] ASKING FOR THE SPECIFICS. WHY WAS, THAT WAS AUGUST 27TH, WHY DID WHY WAS AGAIN, THIS IS THE 28TH? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M GOING TO PULL THIS BACK ON TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT. WELL, ACTUALLY IT DOES PULL INTO THIS BECAUSE TRUSTEE WESTON WERE SITTING HERE SAYING AND YOU GUYS WERE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO JUST KNOW THESE THINGS. I WANT TO KNOW, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS? HOW ARE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY GOING TO CENSURE HER WHEN THE DOUG [INAUDIBLE] AND JENNY WELLS . TOTALLY OK THIS. WE ARE NOT HERE. WE ARE HERE K1. PLEASE READ K1 AGAIN MS. FELLER BECAUSE WE CAN GO AROUND AND AROUND. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DID ON THE 18TH WITH ANOTHER TRUSTEE. WE DISCUSSED IT. WE DISCUSSED THE CONCERNING BEHAVIOR AND IT SHOULD BE ENCLOSED. IT'S NOT. WE'RE DOING IT OUT HERE. BUT IF IT WAS ENCLOSED AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MS. FELLER. TO POST AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE TRUSTEE ON AN UPCOMING BOARD AGENDA IN CLOSED SESSION. DURING THE CLOSED SESSION, TRUSTEE SHALL DISCUSS THE CONCERN WITH THE TRUSTEE ATTEMPT TO GAIN GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND TRY TO RESOLVE THE MATTER. RIGHT. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF TRYING TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CRUCIFYING OF HER AND DON'T DO THIS. WE DON'T LIKE THIS. WE DON'T WANT YOU DOING THIS. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M TRYING TO GAIN THIS HIGHER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT REALLY WENT ON HERE AND FOR ALL OF US, BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEARNING MOMENTS TOO FOR ALL OF US. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN BE CONCERNING TO ANY OF US THAT AN EMAIL WAS [01:30:05] SENT OUT FULLY AWARE TO THE BOTH LAWYERS. AND THE TRUSTEE JUST MOVES FORWARD WITH LIFE THINKING THIS IS OK AND ACTUALLY TRUSTEE WEIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT IT, BUT YOU ACTUALLY DID THE EXACT SAME THING AS TRUSTEE WESTON YOU ACTUALLY FORWARDED YOU REPLY TO THAT EMAIL TO ALL WITH ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON THAT EMAIL AND YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MUCH MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT YOU, BUT I JUST I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE OPENLY COPIED AND WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON DID. AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE DID. WHAT IS THE CONCERNING BEHAVIOR? BECAUSE TO ME, THE CONCERNING BEHAVIOR WAS THAT TWO LAWYERS WAS ON THAT EMAIL AND THEY DID NOTHING. THANK YOU, DR. BONE. I'LL ALSO JUST SAY, AMY, YOU BRING UP THIS LETTER AGAIN, AND I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THAT LETTER IS NOT DOES NOT ENJOY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THERE ARE NO SPECIFICS ABOUT ANY EMAILS THAT I SENT. THERE ARE NO SPECIFICS THAT THIS IS WHY THAT THREATENING LETTER IS CURRENTLY THE IMPETUS FOR ACTIVE TEXAS BAR COMPLAINTS AND A POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF THE PENAL CODE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO EXERCISE CAUTION IF YOU'RE TRYING TO HOLD THAT UP AS WAIVING ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGES BECAUSE THREATENING DOCUMENTS DO NOT ENJOY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGES. THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS DOES DO WE HAVE ANYWHERE IN THE BOARD POLICY OR PROCEDURE WHERE I AM PROHIBITED FROM BCC A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC? I'D LIKE A YES OR NO ANSWER ON THAT. YEAH. I WILL SAY THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S WRITTEN, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS JUST TO SAY, HEY, NOT COOL. DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. AND LIKE THAT'S WHY WE DO THIS. WE JUST HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WE SAY, HEY, NOT COOL TO BCC EVERYBODY ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR DISCUSSION WHICH WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IN CLOSED SESSION WITH YOU. NOT COOL. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER STUFF I SEE, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. OK, THAT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST HERE SAYING, HEY DON'T SEND THE STUFF THAT SAYS, LIKE CONFIDENTIAL BOARD UPDATE, ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION, DON'T DISTRIBUTE THAT, OK? [I. THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES OFFICERS] DON'T. AND IF YOU THINK IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND I WANT TO SEND IT OUT. MAYBE, MAYBE ADDRESS THAT WITH OUR COUNSEL. LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND I WANT TO SEND IT TO THESE PEOPLE TO GET MORE FEEDBACK. AND THEN AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT WHOLE PROCESS WILL HAVE BEEN INITIATED TO KNOW LIKE, WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH IT, BUT AT LEAST THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN. SO BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I AGREE THAT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IN TELLING YOU OUR CONCERNS OR, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE THAT, COREY. OF THE THREE EMAILS IN QUESTION, ARE YOU AWARE THAT ONLY ONE OF THEM WAS MARKED ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE? THAT'S CORRECT. THE OTHER ONE WAS THERE WAS ATTORNEYS ON IT. THEY WERE GIVING, YOU KNOW, LEGAL INTERPRETATIONS THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU BCC PEOPLE ON THAT WAS NOT IT DIDN'T SAY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED ON IT. I'M NOT AWARE. WERE THERE ATTORNEYS ON THAT ONE? I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ATTORNEYS ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT ONLY ONE OF THE THREE SET ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND I HAVE NOW EXPLAINED TWICE I WON'T EXPLAIN IT FOR A THIRD TIME WHY SHARING IT WAS NOT A VIOLATION OF ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. I DO WANT TO KNOW IF IT CAN BE A FIRST STEP BECAUSE I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED, WHICH IS, IS IT AGAINST BOARD POLICY FOR ME TO BCC ANYBODY? IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT IS NOT A POLICY VIOLATION OR A LAWFUL VIOLATION, WHICH BY THE WAY, AS THE DAUGHTER OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES THAT THEY'VE WITNESSED OR HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A CRIME TO NOTIFY THE AUTHORITIES IMMEDIATELY. SO IF BCC ANYBODY IS NOT A POLICY OR LAWFUL VIOLATION, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IT COULD BE THE IMPETUS FOR A K-1 SANCTION. [01:35:08] I'LL LET YOU. OR IN TRUSTEE HARRISON ALSO HAD HER LIGHT ON. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION ALONG? WE DON'T VOTE ON K1 RIGHT? WE JUST SAY YES, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON K1 OR HOW DOES THIS WORK? THAT IS WHAT WE DID LAST TIME AS A GROUP. WE JUST DECIDED THAT WE WOULD CALL IT K1 AND MOVE ON WITH OUR DAY. OK. AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM ATTORNEY. WOOLSTON. MHMM. AND DOUG NO. I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION OF, IS THERE A POLICY THAT PROHIBITS BCC INDIVIDUALS, THERE'S NO SUCH POLICY, BUT HOWEVER, YOU CANNOT SHARE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. SO IT'S THE CONTENT OF THE EMAILS THAT ARE SHARED THAT WOULD BE THE ISSUE IN THAT SITUATION. WHAT POLICY OR PROCEDURE DETERMINES THAT, AND IS THAT THE REASON WHY YOU RECOMMENDED TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN A POLICY OR PROCEDURE? IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR CODE OF ETHICS UNDER INTEGRITY OF CHARACTER, IT SAYS I WILL NOT DISCLOSE INFORMATION THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL OR WHEN NEEDLESSLY HARM THE DISTRICT OF DISCLOSED. AND THEN IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT IT. AND I THINK WHAT REALLY THIS IS THE HEART OF IT, DANIELLE. IN OUR EQUITY AND ATTITUDE, IT SAYS I WILL ACCORD OTHERS THE RESPECT I WISH FOR MYSELF. AND I THINK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO IS COPIED ON EMAILS IF THEY'RE SENT TO YOU. MAYBE I'M WRONG. MAYBE YOU DON'T CARE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO'S COPIED ON EMAILS THAT ARE SENT TO ME. AND THEN IF I GET A RESPONSE BECAUSE OF SOME EMAIL THAT SOMEBODY WAS BLIND COPIED ON, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO. IT'S JUST A RESPECT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS TO KNOW WHO'S HAS INFORMATION AND WHO. YOU KNOW, IF THEY COME TO ME AND SAY, HEY, I READ AN EMAIL THAT YOU WROTE. IT WOULD BE JUST NICE TO KNOW WHO THAT IS. IT'S A RESPECT ISSUE. OK, SO WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT THESE WERE NOT LABELED CONFIDENTIAL, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, AND THERE'S THREE EMAILS IN QUESTION ONE THAT PRESIDENT WEIR PARTICIPATED IN. I'M LOOKING THROUGH THESE AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME AND THEN I WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT MY OWN VERSION AND MY OWN EMAIL, THAT'S WHY I KNOW THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU ALL WERE PROVIDED AND WHAT ACTUALLY EXISTS. BUT WITH REGARD TO THE BCCING. WAS THERE AN EXAMPLE THAT YOU SAW WHERE I WAS SENDING AN EMAIL TO ANY OF YOU AND COPYING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? AS I RECALL ANYTHING I WAS SHARING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN A BCC I WAS SENDING TO MYSELF. I WAS NOT SENDING TO ANY OF YOU. IS THAT INCORRECT? WE HAVE THEM. I MEAN IT IS. I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK IN JUST A SECOND. I MEAN, PART OF THE PROBLEM, DANIELLE, IS THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITIGATION EXCEPTIONS. THERE'S DELIBERATIVE PROCESS EXCEPTIONS TO THE INFORMATION THAT'S RELEASED. AND IF YOU ARE JUST SENDING EMAILS OUT WITHOUT GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT TO WHETHER SOMETHING MIGHT FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF LITIGATION RIGHT NOW AND A LOT OF AND PEOPLE THAT WERE ON SOME OF THESE EMAILS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE, HAVE GRIEVANCES, HAVE LAWSUITS AGAINST THE DISTRICT. SO I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LEVEL OF CARE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO PROTECT THIS DISTRICT AND TO PUT THE DISTRICT FIRST. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT IT I MEAN, I DO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE FELLER. I THINK IF, I MEAN, I'M NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I DON'T GIVE YOUR EMAILS OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE TO PUT ONTO FACEBOOK. BUT THERE IS JUST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COLLEGIALITY THAT WOULD FOR ME TO KNOW IF YOU'RE. BEFORE I READ IT ON FACEBOOK OR SOMEONE SENDS ME A SCREENSHOT OF THE EMAIL THAT YOU'VE SENT ME DETAILING ALL YOUR ISSUES WITH ME, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST IT'S JUST IT DOESN'T HELP AND IT REALLY DOES VIOLATE OUR ETHICS POLICY. AND IN SOME OF THESE INSTANCES, YOU RUN THE RISK OF PUTTING THE DISTRICT IN DANGER. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. I'VE HAD MY LIGHT ON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT OR IS IT NOT WORKING? YEAH, SO DOES TIFFANIE AND SO DOES DID YOU ALREADY. [01:40:08] IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT HONEST FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, YOU WANT TO KNOW. BUT THE EMAIL IN QUESTION THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THREATENING IS OUR LEGAL TEAM SAYING, YOU ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, YOU'RE MAKING AND DOING THESE ACTIONS, IT'S PUTTING THE DISTRICT IN JEOPARDY. SO THEN WHEN YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU UNKNOWINGLY COULD BE DOING AND PUTTING THE DISTRICT IN JEOPARDY, THE RESPONSE IS TO REPORT IT AND TO SAY IT'S THREATENING. SO HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO BE TOLD THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG AGAIN? IF THAT IS THE RESPONSE, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS THAT WE ALL HAD TRAINING FOR OPEN MEETINGS ACT. WE DID THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2020. SO FOR OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND FOR WHAT WAS THE OTHER. PUBLIC INFORMATION, SO WE HAD TO DO THOSE TWO TRAININGS. AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T HAD TRAINING. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'VE BEEN OFFERED SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU'VE DECIDED NOT TO ATTEND, LIKE TEAM OF EIGHT. AND SO IT'S ALSO PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT MORE TRAINING IS A REQUEST AND SOMETHING THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THROUGH IN EARNEST, SO I WANT TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, BUT I'M REALLY STRUGGLING HERE BECAUSE IF YOU HIT BACK ON THE LAWYERS, WHEN THEY TELL YOU YOU'RE PUTTING ROUND ROCK ISD IN JEOPARDY, THEN IS YOUR EXPECTATION THAT THEY JUST KEEP TELLING YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT'S ADVERSARIAL. I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A REALLY FINE LINE BEING WALKED HERE. SO I KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK MARY, BUT SHE'S ASKING ME QUESTIONS. MAY I ANSWER? WELL, I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING. I JUST WANTED TO READ SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY GOES ALONG WITH WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN. SO YOU MENTIONED THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND YES, WE ALL HAD THAT TRAINING, AND SECTION 552.001 IS, I GUESS, THE PREAMBLE TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND IT SAYS UNDER THE FUNDAMENTAL PHILOSOPHY OF THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL FORM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT THAT ADHERES TO THE PRINCIPLE THAT GOVERNMENT IS THE SERVANT AND NOT THE MASTER OF THE PEOPLE. IT IS THE POLICY OF THIS STATE REFERENCING TEXAS THAT EACH PERSON IS ENTITLED, UNLESS OTHERWISE EXPRESSLY PROVIDED BY LAW AT ALL TIMES TO COMPLETE INFORMATION. COMPLETE INFORMATION ABOUT THE AFFAIRS OF GOVERNMENT AND THE OFFICIAL ACTS OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, THAT'S COMPLETE INFORMATION ABOUT THE AFFAIRS OF GOVERNMENT AND THE OFFICIAL ACTS OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS, WHICH TRUSTEE WESTON IS. THE PEOPLE IN DELEGATING AUTHORITY DO NOT GIVE THEIR PUBLIC SERVANTS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE TO KNOW AND WHAT IS NOT GOOD FOR THEM TO KNOW. THE PEOPLE INSIST ON REMAINING INFORMED SO THAT THEY MAY RETAIN CONTROL OVER THE INSTRUMENTS THEY HAVE CREATED. THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER SHALL BE LIBERALLY CONSTRUED TO IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY. CAN I JUST INTERPRET THAT A LITTLE BIT? AND MAYBE DOUG AND OTHERS? THAT'S OFFICIAL ACTS. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT IS GETTING AT IS THAT WE DON'T DELIBERATE. A MAJORITY LIKE MORE THAN A QUORUM, DOESN'T DELIBERATE ON THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AS AN OFFICIAL BODY IS UNLESS IT'S IN PUBLIC, BUT OUR OUR DELIBERATIVE PROCESS. CAN I JUST CAN I STOP. THOUGH, AND. ACTUALLY, CAN I STOP YOU BOTH BECAUSE THIS HAS, GETTING OFF ON THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS NOT ABOUT. ACTUALLY TRUSTEE HARRISON ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP, AND SO IT ACTUALLY DOES BECAUSE I AM. I'M JUST SAYING. WE HAD TRAINING. WE ARE NOT. I CAN. IF I COULD HAVE JUST ONE MOMENT, I WILL TELL YOU HOW I APPLY IT TO TRUSTEE WESTON AND WHAT SHE DID. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW THE FIVE OF YOU. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THIS AND MAYBE THIS IS A HEALING MOMENT. YOU GUYS DON'T LISTEN TO US. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU OUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH IT, BUT JUST LISTEN TO OUR PERSPECTIVE. MY PERSPECTIVE IS TRUSTEE WESTON HAD COPIED DOUG AND JENNY ON THESE EMAILS. SHE THOUGHT THEY WERE [INAUDIBLE]. I'M NOT TALKING FOR YOU, BUT THIS IS JUST MY PERSPECTIVE. AND THAT SHE SENT THEM OUT BECAUSE WE HAD OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT DOUG OR JENNY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND NOW PEOPLE ARE SIX MONTHS LATER. AND SO SHE FORWARDED THEM ON TO SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IN QUESTION IS ONE TO HER AND I AND WE IT WAS WE SAW THAT AS OUR LETTER AND FREEDOM TO DO WHAT WE WANTED WITH IT. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, WHAT [01:45:04] YOU READ FROM THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS ACTUALLY JUST A LETTER AT THE BEGINNING FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN PAXTON. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A FORWARD TO THE ACTUAL OPEN MEETINGS ACT THAT ACTUALLY. SHE SAID OPEN MEETINGS, BUT I THINK SHE MEANT TO SAY PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. YEAH, IT IS. IT'S 552.001. OK. I WAS. SO TIFFANIE, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT I WOULD WELCOME A ROBUST CONVERSATION AMONG THE SEVEN OF US ABOUT ETHICS. I WOULD WELCOME A ROBUST CONVERSATION ON THAT. [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO KIND OF WRAP US UP A LITTLE BIT HERE. OK, WELL, YOU CITED THAT SOMETHING ABOUT IN THIS LETTER THAT WE WERE WARNED. I THINK I'VE SAID IT THREE TIMES. I'LL SAY IT A FOURTH IN THAT LETTER, WHICH DO YOU HAVE THAT LETTER TIFFANIE. IT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS FLAGGED FOR YOU. BCCING. IT'S THE SECOND ONE ON THE LIST. OK, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO READ THAT LETTER. [O. PUBLIC COMMENTS TO NON-AGENDA ITEMS ONLY] YEAH, ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. WHY IT IS THE BASIS OF OPEN TEXAS BAR COMPLAINTS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED INTO THAT THAT DOCUMENT DOES NOT ENJOY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THERE ARE NO SPECIFICS OFFERED IN THERE TO ME, POINTING ANYTHING OUT THAT I OR DR. BONE HAVE DONE THAT IS IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING. IT IS A VAGUE DOCUMENT AND I RECEIVED IT ON A FRIDAY IN AUGUST, TWO DAYS PRIOR TO ME APPEARING AT A VERY WELL-ATTENDED TOWN HALL. AND I INTERPRETED IT AS AN INTIMIDATING DOCUMENT THAT SOUGHT TO DETER ME FROM INTERACTING WITH CONSTITUENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO REVIEW IT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPECIFICS. IT DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SENDING THIS EMAIL, THESE EMAILS, AND THIS IS WHY IT'S PROBLEMATIC OR YOUR BCCING THESE PEOPLE. AND THIS IS WHY IT'S PROBLEMATIC OR YOU'RE WAIVING ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. AND THIS IS WHY IT'S PROBLEMATIC. IT'S JUST A VERY VAGUE DOCUMENT. BUT I WILL SAY, AS A PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED MULTIPLE TRAININGS ON MULTIPLE TOPICS FOR THIS BOARD, I AM OPEN TO THE TRAINING THAT MR. WOLFSON HAS RECOMMENDED IN THE EMAIL THAT HE SENT US ON NOVEMBER 29TH. WE DID RECEIVE ONE HOUR OF OPEN MEETINGS ACT TRAINING, WHICH I THINK WE WOULD ALL BENEFIT FROM SOME MORE OF THAT. AND THEN WE DID RECEIVE ONE HOUR OF PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT TRAINING, AND THAT WAS A YEAR AGO, AND I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO REVISIT THESE TOPICS. SO THE FIRST THING IS TRUSTEE WESTON TALKING ABOUT, SHE NEEDS SHE WANTS MORE TRAINING. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT BOTH TRUSTEE WESTON AND TRUSTEE BONE SEEMS TO BE LIKE A WALKING DICTIONARY ABOUT PENAL CODE LAWS, POLICY, WHATEVER STUFF. THEY DON'T NEED TRAINING AT ALL. THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. THEY KNOW MORE THAN OUR LAWYERS, ATTORNEY EVERYBODY COMBINED TOGETHER. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. THE SECOND THING IS WHEN TRUSTEE BONE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE NOT LISTENING. I THINK IT'S KIND OF WEIRD BECAUSE THE ENTIRE TIME I'M LISTENING, IT'S JUST YOU TWO GUYS. YOU ARE TALKING CIRCLING AROUND AND AROUND AND GOING NOWHERE. OK, I'M LISTENING. I'M NOT NOTICING. I'M LISTENING, BUT ENDED UP GOING NOWHERE. GOING NOWHERE. OK. ALL THIS TIME. ALL THIS TIME. IT'S FUNNY THING THAT WE FIVE OF US, INCLUDING ACTUALLY TRUSTEE BONE WE ARE VOLUNTEERS, WERE NOT PAID TO BE IN THIS THEATER TO BE THIS PERFORMANCE. THE ONLY ONE PAID IS KENNETH. HE'S VERY HAPPY AS MORE HOURS HE CAN PAY MORE AND THE PEOPLE JUST DONATE MONEY TO SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS NOT OK, WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME. WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME. WE NEED TO DECIDE IF, AS WE DID LAST MONTH, IF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THIS. I MEAN, I'VE HEARD YOU TRUSTEE WESTON THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO TRAINING. I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ON MY LIST WHEN I HAND OFF TO, THOUGH I DON'T REMEMBER YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR THIS TRAINING, BUT I WILL GO BACK. IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE. SO I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOU WE'VE EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS TO YOU, WHICH IS ALL THAT K1 WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, AND I WILL DO WHAT WE DID LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH AND SAY, DO WE FEEL [01:50:06] LIKE WE'LL JUST CALL THIS K1 AND MOVE ON AND WE WILL GO AND FINISH THE REST OF THESE IN THE BACK? I MEAN, IT'S NOT A VOTE, IT'S JUST. CONSENSUS THAT WE MOVE ON. SO WAS IT A NO YES. TRUSTEE FELLER, ARE YOU READY TO? SO I GUESS I WOULD MAYBE TAKE A PAGE OUT OF DANIELLE'S BOOK FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS AND AND ASK WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE MOVING FORWARD? I KNOW THAT YOU ASK THAT OF THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OF THE PERSON IN INTEREST AND, YOU KNOW, DO YOU PLAN ON CONTINUING TO DO THIS? DO YOU SEE ANY CONCERNS IN YOUR BEHAVIOR OR THIS IS A BASICALLY EXACTLY THE SAME QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED WHEN WE DID THIS PROCESS IN NOVEMBER. SO AFTER HAVING RECEIVED THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU DID FROM SOME OF THE TRUSTEES ON THE DAIS, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD WITH REGARDS TO THIS BEHAVIOR THAT SOME OF US SEE AS CONCERNING? SO CAN YOU CITE THE POLICY VIOLATION? I'VE ASKED A QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO K-1 AND IDENTIFYING SAME QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED LAST WEEK, SO I'D PREFER THAT YOU DIDN'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION. SO K1 SAYS THAT IN THE EVENT A TRUSTEE VIOLATES THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND OR BOARD POLICY, THE BOARD MAY CHOOSE TO EXERCISE K1. I'VE NOT BEEN BRIEFED. I'VE GIVEN YOU TWO EXAMPLES OF THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. NEITHER ARE YOU. IT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF IT. BUT I HAVE GIVEN YOU TWO CITATIONS FROM OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT I FEEL HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. SO YOU THINK THE TWO THINGS THAT YOU REFERENCED FROM THE ETHICS DOCUMENT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CITING AS BOARD POLICY VIOLATIONS ON MY PART. K1 SAYS BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES OR BOARD POLICY, OUR CODE OF ETHICS IS BBF LOCAL, SO THAT'S POLICY AND BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. SO IS THAT A YES, THAT YOU'RE CITING ITEMS OFF OF THE BOARD ETHICS DOCUMENT AS MY POLICY VIOLATIONS OR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE VIOLATIONS? I'M SORRY WHAT? [LAUGHTER] YES. I WOULD SAY THAT, YES, I FEEL LIKE WHAT TRUSTEE FELLER READ EARLIER I WOULD AGREE THAT THAT IS THE BEHAVIOR THAT IT WAS CONCERNING TO ME. SO BEFORE TODAY, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT THERE WAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT AND AMBER, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE BOARD ETHICS CONCERNS THAT YOU STATED EARLIER? NO, I'D RATHER NOT. IT'S ALREADY IN THE RECORD. I JUST ASKED YOU WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S ALL I NEED AN ANSWER TO BEFORE I GIVE MY PERSONAL OPINION ON WHETHER THIS CONSTITUTES K-1 OR NOT. DO YOU PLAN ON CONTINUING TO BCC INDIVIDUALS IN THE FUTURE? I PLAN ON FOLLOWING ALL LAWS, ALL POLICIES. YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. AND ALL PROCEDURES GOING FORWARD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING CITED ANY VIOLATIONS. THIS REPRESENTS K1 FOR ME. TRUSTEE IT DOES FOR ME ALSO. TRUSTEE WESTON. I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE A NO. TRUSTEE VESSA. I WISH YOU HAD ANSWERED DIFFERENTLY, SO IT'S K1 FOR ME. TRUSTEE XIAO, TRUSTEE WESTON WILL NEVER ADMIT WRONG OR MISTAKE, SO IT'S A SLAP IN THE WRIST, BUT SHE WON'T TAKE IT. ALL RIGHT, SO DO I NEED TO READ THE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS? FINISH ASKING EVERYBODY NO, I DID. TRUSTEE BONE SAID NO, AND TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID YES. NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REREAD THEM, YOU READ THEM ALREADY. JUST ANNOUNCE THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING IN. OK. IT IS 7:24. CAN I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER REAL QUICK, THOUGH IN BETWEEN? YES, I CAN. BECAUSE I'M NOT WHAT IS YOUR POINT? MY MY POINT IS IT SAYS WE'RE GOING IN WITH OUR BOARD ATTORNEY. YES, WHO IS OUR BOARD ATTORNEY TONIGHT? MR. PONECK. MR. PONECK HAS SAID THAT HE DOES NOT REPRESENT TRUSTEE WESTON AND I SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? THERE IS ONE MATTER IN YOUR LITIGATION AGAINST THE BOARD, THE FIVE OF US THAT HE CANNOT REPRESENT YOU LEGALLY OR ETHICALLY ON THAT ONE MATTER ONLY. [01:55:06] THIS WHEN WE GO IN AND TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION OF BOARD OFFICERS, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, AND MR. PONECK IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD. ASSUMING YOU'RE STILL A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND THE OTHER ITEM IS ALSO GOING TO BE WITH MR. WOOLSTON AND MR. PONECK. YET MR. PONECK CANNOT REPRESENT, I MEAN BY BOARD ETHICS. YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY KNOW THIS, THAT HE IS CONFLICTED OUT. HE CANNOT REPRESENT ME ON ONE AND THE OTHER. HE CANNOT BE IN A CLOSED SESSION WITH ME HERE NOW BECAUSE HE COULD USE THAT AGAINST ME. WELL YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO COME INTO CLOSED SESSION THEN. THE REST OF US ARE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION IT'S 7:25. OK, IT'S 9:01, AND WE ARE GOING TO CALL BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF P ONE. WE DID NOT DO P TWO. SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT AT THE END. SO WE ARE NOW TO ITEM I, AND I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE MY TWO MINUTES AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL JUST INDULGE ME FOR JUST TWO MINUTES AS I GET READY TO STEP DOWN AS BOARD PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO REFLECT ON SOME ISSUES RAISED DURING MY TENURE AND TO GIVE MY SUCCESSOR A HEADS UP ON WHAT ISSUES ARE STILL OUTSTANDING. IF I MISS ANYTHING, I WOULD ASK THAT BOARD MEMBERS RESEND A NEW REQUEST TO THE NEW PRESIDENT. SINCE THE VAST MAJORITY OF REQUESTS I'VE RECEIVED RECENTLY, THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD CC TO ANOTHER TRUSTEE, SO I DON'T WANT TO RISK VIOLATING THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT BY FORWARDING EMAILS THAT ALREADY HAVE THREE TRUSTEES ON THEM. STILL ON THE TABLE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT TO CONSIDER WITH ALL THE SPECIAL AND CALLED MEETING REQUESTS, I WAS NOT ABLE TO SCHEDULE A FOLLOW UP MEETING ON REVISIONS ON SEVERAL POLICIES AND THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. WE ALSO HAD NUMEROUS SUGGESTIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WATCHING OUR RATHER PAINFUL MEETINGS ABOUT A BOARD TRAINING ON ROBERT'S RULES AND ALSO, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE NEED OUR LSG COACH HAS ALSO SUGGESTED A TEA TRAINING ON TOMA AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. THEY COULD ALL BE SCHEDULED TOGETHER, BUT AGAIN, I WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS DECIDED REGARDING THE PROPOSED EXHIBIT TO CFC LOCAL THAT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR LATER TONIGHT THE NEXT PRESIDENT MAY WISH TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ABOUT CREATING AN AUDIT COMMITTEE TO ASSIST OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR. OTHER DISTRICTS WHO HAVE AN AUDITOR THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD HAVE SUCH COMMITTEES. AS WE TRANSITION OUR BOARD OFFICERS I KNOW THAT EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS AND PROBABLY EVERYBODY WATCHING HERE AND AT HOME WISH THAT I'D HANDLED MANY SITUATIONS DIFFERENTLY, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT I THINK IS REQUIRED TO SERVE AS BOARD PRESIDENT. I'VE DONE MY BEST AS BOARD PRESIDENT, DOING TWO OF THE MOST STRESSFUL AND CHALLENGING YEARS IMAGINABLE. WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO TRY TO FIND COMMON GROUND HAS MET GETTING BEAT UP BY BOTH SIDES. BUT I THINK THE PRESIDENT SHOULD TRY TO FIND COMMON GROUND WHENEVER POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE, NO MATTER THE PERSONAL ATTACKS, EVEN IF THEY ARE BASED ON LIES, OR IF THEY ARE SELF-SERVING EFFORTS TO RAISE FUNDS AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR DISTRICT. WHILE DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT POLICY WILL OCCUR, THE BOARD PRESIDENT CANNOT ALLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE LAW OR DECISIONS OF THE BOARD. NEITHER THIS BOARD NOR I AS BOARD PRESIDENT HAVE EVER VIOLATED THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. ALL OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN RUN IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, AS CONFIRMED BY OUR LEGAL STAFF, AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT SHOULD CONTINUE TO RELY ON ACTUAL LEGAL ADVICE AND NOT RANDOM OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY LAW. ADDITIONALLY, THE BOARD PRESIDENT MUST PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO SPEAK AND BE HEARD FOLLOWING STATE LAW AND THE DISTRICT'S RULES. AS BOARD PRESIDENT, I HAVE NEVER DENIED ANYONE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK WHEN THE PERSON WAS ACTING WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF LAW AND BOARD POLICY. I'VE EVEN GONE ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED BY LAW OR POLICY BY ALLOWING THOSE WHO ARRIVE LATE OR MISS THEIR NAME BEING CALLED ALWAYS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BECAUSE WE SERVE ALL OUR STUDENTS, PARENTS AND COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, AND WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THEM. NEVERTHELESS, TEXAS LAW PROHIBIT DISRUPTIONS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR A REASON TO ALLOW US TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BY GETTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS DONE, AND IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE COULD GET IT DONE AT A REASONABLE HOUR. NO ONE, NOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NOT EVEN TRUSTEES HAVE A RIGHT TO DISRUPT OUR PUBLIC BOARD MEETINGS OR PREVENT THIS BODY FROM DOING ITS JOB AND SHOUTING OVER OTHER PARENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT CANNOT BE TOLERATED. SHOUTING AT TRUSTEES ALSO CANNOT BE TOLERATED. SO WHOEVER IS BOARD PRESIDENT, THAT PERSON MUST PROTECT BOTH THE RIGHT OF THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AND THE ABILITY OF US TO DO OUR JOB. FINALLY, THE PRESIDENT MUST ULTIMATELY MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS WHEN SOMEONE FORGETS THEIR ROLE AND PLACES PERSONAL INTERESTS ABOVE THOSE OF OUR STUDENTS, PARENTS AND GREATER COMMUNITY. THE PRESIDENT MUST BE ABLE TO WEIGH WHEN IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE BOARD TO REGULATE ITSELF OR THE CONDUCT OF INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES, AND WHEN IF THERE ARE EFFORTS TO [02:00:01] UNDERMINE THE BOARD AND ITS ABILITY TO FULFILL ITS STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY, ISSUES MUST BE MET HEAD ON. THE PRESIDENT MUST HELP LEAD THE WAY TO ADDRESS SUCH CHALLENGES. THE DISTRICT WILL ONLY SUCCEED IF THE PRESIDENT SUCCEEDS IN KEEPING THESE THINGS IN MIND. SO. [APPLAUSE] BOARD MEMBERS, WE WILL TAKE OFFICE FOR NOMINATIONS BEGINNING WITH PRESIDENT, FOLLOWED BY VICE PRESIDENT, THEN SECRETARY. PLEASE USE YOUR BUTTONS AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE MAKING A NOMINATION. AND AS A REMINDER, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO SECOND THE NOMINATION. SO WE WILL OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR PRESIDENT. AMY BEFORE GOING TO NOMINATION I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOU. I REALLY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOU, SO I DON'T KNOW YOU MUCH. WE BARELY TALK TO EACH OTHER, RIGHT? OCCASIONALLY, WE EXTEND TO A COUPLE OF WORDS, BUT YOU HAVE MY RESPECT FOR ONE REASON. YOU HAVE THE HUMILITY. YOU TREAT EVERYBODY FAIR. IN THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAWS TALKING OF POLICY, YOU ARE. YOU GO TO LAW SCHOOL, BUT YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT IT. YOU NEVER, IN ONCE TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE OR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR EXPERTISE. YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT. THAT'S THE HUMILITY. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MY RESPECT. UNLIKE OTHER TRUSTEE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT 911. TALK ABOUT THANK YOU, TRUSTEE XIAO. THANK YOU. WE WILL OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR PRESIDENT. TRUSTEE HARRISON, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TRUSTEE FELLER FOR PRESIDENT. I'LL SECOND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR PRESIDENT? SO. IF ONLY ONE NOMINATION CAN JUST SAY, CAN WE APPROVE THAT BY ACCLAMATION? ALL RIGHT. CAN WE PROVE THAT BY ACCLAMATION? THAT. SO THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPRESSION OF ACCLAMATION BY EVERYBODY. YEAH. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ONLY ONE NOMINEE, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TRUSTEE FELLER FOR PRESIDENT RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT, SO IT PASSES 5 2. WE WILL NOW OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT. TRUSTEE FELLER, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TRUSTEE HARRISON FOR VICE PRESIDENT. I WILL SECOND THAT AND TRUSTEE BONE. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE AMY WEIR? I SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NON. DOESN'T SOMETHING CHANGE WHEN THERE'S TWO? WE TAKE THEM IN ORDER. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE, NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT ARE CLOSED, WE WILL VOTE IN ORDER OF THE NOMINATIONS. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TRUSTEE HARRISON RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL THOSE ABSTAINING. SO IT'S THREE, THREE ONE. SO THE MOTION FAILS TO TIE VOTE. SO NOW YOU GO TO THE SECOND NOMINEE. ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMY WEIR. BEFORE THE BOARD, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, DO YOU WANT TO BE THE VICE PRESIDENT? [LAUGHTER] NOT REALLY, BUT. I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD. I KNOW THE EXPERIENCE, THE THING YOU EXPERIENCED MAKES IT A REALLY TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO VICE PRESIDENT. OTHERWISE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE VICE PRESIDENT, I WOULD SUPPORT MS. TRUSTEE HARRISON TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. BUT CAN I WITHDRAW MY NAME? YOU CAN DECLINE THE NOMINATION. I WOULD LIKE TO DECLINE THE NOMINATION THEN AND CAN WE REVOTE ON TRUSTEE HARRISON? HOW CAN WE REVOTE. SO SOMEBODY IN THE MAJORITY, YOU KNOW, WHO PREVAILED ON THAT MOTION CAN MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TO RECONSIDER THAT MOTION. A MAJORITY, THOUGH IT WAS A TIE. SORRY, THE PREVAILING SIDE IS THE SIDE THAT DEFEATED THE MOTION. SO ANY OF THE THREE. I WILL RECONSIDER THE MOTION FOR TRUSTEE HARRISON TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. [02:05:02] SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TRUSTEE HARRISON RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SO MOTION PASSES FIVE TWO. OK, WE WILL OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR SECRETARY. TRUSTEE HARRISON. [INAUDIBLE] I LIKE TO NOMINATE DANIELLE WESTON. AND I WANTED TO NOMINATE. I WANTED TO NOMINATE AMY WEIR FOR SECRETARY. SECOND. OK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR SECRETARY? CAN WE GO AHEAD AND ASK IF YOU WANT TO BE SECRETARY SO THAT WE DON'T DO WHAT WE JUST DID. I DON'T MIND DOING SECRETARY AS MUCH. I SAID THE REASON I DIDN'T WANT TO DO VICE PRESIDENT IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE IN CHARGE OF DEALING WITH PUBLIC SPEAKERS. SORRY. SO I'M FINE TO LEAVE MY NAME IN FOR SECRETARY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR SECRETARY? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DANIELLE WESTON FOR SECRETARY, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AND I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. SO THE MOTION FAILS, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMY WEIR RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. AND I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON THAT ONE ALSO. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT MOTION PASSES. WAS IT FIVE ONE ONE? ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL NOW TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO RECONFIGURE THE DAIS AND. I WILL TURN IT OVER. [LAUGHTER]. SO IT IS 9:13 AND WE ARE RECESSED. ALL RIGHT, IT IS 9:25 AND WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKING NEXT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY. I KNOW THAT THIS WASN'T A MAJORITY VOTE FOR ME AS PRESIDENT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DISAPPOINTED IN THE FACT THAT I'M SITTING IN THIS CHAIR. I WILL TELL YOU, STARTING NOW, I VOW FROM THIS MOMENT FORWARD SITTING IN THIS CHAIR THAT I WILL WORK TOGETHER AS MUCH POSSIBLE. I'M GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES. I ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. VICE VERSA. BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING, AND I DID ASK TRUSTEE VESSA'S PERMISSION IN SHARING THIS. SHE AND I, SHE HAD EMAILED ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT SOME EXPECTATIONS, AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE REALLY GOOD FOR US AS A BOARD. WE DID ALREADY TALK ABOUT THIS IN A BOARD, BUT I MEAN IN CLOSED SESSION. BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS EMAIL TO KNOW WHERE I'M GOING TO BE FOCUSED MOVING FORWARD. AND I HOPE THAT THE REST OF THE BOARD IS AS WELL. TO HAVE A GROWTH MINDSET CENTERED IN HUMILITY TO ENGAGE IN COLLABORATIVE DECISION MAKING FREE FROM MANIPULATION OR BULLYING. RESPECTFUL OF DIFFERENT VALUES AND PRIORITIES TO PROVIDE REGULAR AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION. TO HAVE PREDICTABLE, CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT OF TRUSTEES IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE, AS ESTABLISHED BY OUR BOARD POLICIES TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY THAT ACTIONS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WORDS AND VALUES EXPRESSED, TO COMMIT TO MAINTAIN CIVILITY, DECORUM AND RESPECT, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MEETINGS, AND TO BE CLEAR IN COMMUNICATION AND INTENTION FOSTERING TRUST. I HOPE THAT ALL OF US AND I KNOW DR. XIAO HAD TO LEAVE EARLY. I SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT HE HAS GONE, BUT I HOPE THAT ALL OF US. I MADE THIS COMMITMENT PRIVATELY TO TRUSTEE VESSA AND I'M MAKING IT PUBLICLY TO YOU. I WILL MAKE MISTAKES, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN GO ON A ROAD TO A BETTER TEAM ENVIRONMENT THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY TRUSTEES, MY FELLOW TRUSTEES. WE HAVE FOUR IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS, FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS AND WE HAVE ONE VIRTUAL. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THOSE SPEAKERS TO THE FRONT AND TAKE ALL OF THEM RIGHT NOW. DO I HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO MOVING? [02:10:04] IT WOULD BE ITEM O PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS TO INCORPORATING ITEM O IN THIS AS WELL. DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AGENDA ITEMS AND WE HAVE VIRTUAL AS WELL I BELIEVE AGAIN, I'M NEW AT THIS, SO GIVE ME A LITTLE BREAK. WE. THEN WE WILL GO TO OUR NON AGENDA SPEAKERS AND WE HAVE ONE NON AGENDA VIRTUAL JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THE ORDER OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN. ALL RIGHT. HAVING SAID THAT, OUR FIRST SPEAKER, OH, I'VE GOT TO READ A SPEECH. SAME SPEECH WE'VE ALREADY HEARD TWICE BEFORE, ONCE BEFORE, TWICE ALREADY TONIGHT. AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS UNDER CONSIDERATION AND ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA AS WELL. WE ASK THAT CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES. THE BOARD REQUEST THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AN THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS. PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED. PER TEXAS PENAL CODE THIRTY EIGHT POINT THIRTEEN, FORTY TWO POINT ZERO ONE, FORTY TWO POINT ZERO TWO AND FORTY TWO POINT ZERO FIVE AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105. NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARDS ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON. THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ANY INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT, THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED ON THE ACTION ITEM PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHELLE EVANS AND SHE WILL BE SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM M5. YEAH, KEEP TALKING LET'S SEE IF WE GET IT HOT. ALL RIGHT. HELLO. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE WATERED DOWN AND PURELY SYMBOLIC ATTEMPT TO PLACATE DISTRICT PARENTS WITH A RESOLUTION TO QUOTE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF PARENTS AND STUDENTS EDUCATION UNQUOTE. THIS IS SO ABSOLUTELY TOOTHLESS THAT IT'S WASTEFUL TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA. YOU DON'T GET TO PRETEND TO RESPECT PARENTAL RIGHTS WHILE HAVING EXCLUDED PARENTS FROM CAMPUSES FROM ALMOST TWO YEARS CREATED OBSTACLES TO OUR PARTICIPATION AND EDUCATION, IGNORED OUR OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, ATTEMPTED TO SILENCE US THROUGH INTIMIDATION AND THREATS, AND LITERALLY FALLING ASLEEP. HE'S NOT HERE, BUT FALLING ASLEEP WHILE PARENTS GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING BOARD MEETINGS. YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO REPAIR THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PARENTS AND THE BOARD. IN FACT, YOU DOUBLE DOWN BY DENYING OUR EXPERIENCES AND CREATING FALSE NARRATIVES IN THE MEDIA. YOU'VE BUILT A FIREWALL OF PR LACKEYS AND HIGH DOLLAR ATTORNEYS TO INSULATE YOURSELVES FROM COMPLAINTS AND DISCOURSE. EMAILS GO UNANSWERED. GRIEVANCES GROW DUST. OBVIOUS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND VIOLATIONS OF CODE OF CONDUCT ARE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. IF YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT PARENTAL RIGHTS, YOU WOULD OPEN THE DOORS TO SCHOOLS, FOSTER OPEN COMMUNICATION ABOUT EVEN THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE TOPICS, AND SIMPLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CONCERNS. IT'S BEYOND TIME TO RESTORE THIS BROKEN RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE ON ONE THING. PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT IS AN INVALUABLE COMPONENT FOR STUDENT SUCCESS. INSTEAD OF A TONE DEAF RESOLUTION, WHY NOT ADOPT A PARENTAL BILL OF RIGHTS TO ENSURE THAT PARENTS ARE NEVER AGAIN CONSIDERED NOT ESSENTIAL IN OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, AND TO KEEP DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS AND TRUSTEES IN CHECK BECAUSE. 30 SECONDS. THE OUTGOING BOARD PRESIDENT THREATENED MY CHILD WITH REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING. NOT FOR DISRUPTING, FOR TRYING TO TAKE PART IN THIS PROCESS. I WAS ALMOST REFUSED ENTRY WITH HER, EVEN THOUGH I'M HER PARENT AND I PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN HER EDUCATION. I WAS REFUSED ENTRY INTO THIS ROOM DURING A MEETING SO THAT SHE COULD PARTICIPATE. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE, AND I'M HOPING THAT GOING FORWARD, YOU ACTUALLY DO PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. [02:15:01] NEXT UP IS RICKIE NELSON SPEAKING ON ITEM M6. RICKIE NELSON ITEM M6. OK, I WILL LEAVE IT IN CASE SHE COMES BACK. CATHERINE WRIGHT MEYER AGENDA ITEM M6. CATHERINE WRIGHT MEYER. OH OK. THANK YOU. WE DISAGREE THAT RESOLUTION'S FULL OF HYPERBOLIC LANGUAGE AND SENSATIONALIST AND POORLY DEFINED STATEMENTS, INSIGHTFUL AND YET UNDOCUMENTED REASONS SHOULD BE PASSED BY ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN ROUND ROCK. WE DISAGREE THAT TOPICS OF DIVERSITY DEFINED BY POLITICAL ACTIVISTS AND IMPORTED INTO CENTRAL TEXAS FROM OUTSIDE FORCES SHOULD DOMINATE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. ABOVE TRUTH FACT SEEKING RATIONAL THINKING AND ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE. THIS RESOLUTION ACTIVELY SEEKS TO SUPPRESS DISSENT. ACTIVE DIALOG THE CRITICAL INQUIRY OF THE BOARD'S POSITIONS AND AGENDA. IT WILL REDUCE PARENT AND CONCERNED CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT AND WILL ALLOW THE BOARD TO PASS AGENDAS BY DECREE AND NOT CONSENSUS. THESE ARE NOT THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF OUR REPUBLIC OR ANY REPUBLIC. THEY ARE THE ACTS AND STRATEGIES OF TOTALITARIANS. THE BOARD CLAIMS TO BE AGAINST INTOLERANCE, BUT THIS RESOLUTION IS DEEPLY PREJUDICIAL TO ALL CONCERNED PARENTS AND CITIZENS WHO DISAGREE WITH THEIR POLICIES. INSTEAD OF ENCOURAGING DISCUSSION, IT IS AN EFFORT TO DEMONIZE THOSE PARENTS AND CITIZENS AND USE POWER TACTICS TO MUZZLE DISSENT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT UP IS DENISE RAY, AGENDA ITEM M6. SO ON M6, THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THIS RESOLUTION, AS AN IMMIGRANT, I BELIEVE THE PRESENCE OF IMMIGRANTS CREATES A BEAUTIFUL TAPESTRY OF CULTURES, BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERIENCES AND LANGUAGES. OUR COMMUNITY DOES STRUGGLE WITH PREJUDICE AND DISCRIMINATION, AND I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ALL CHILDREN AND INDIVIDUALS FEEL VALUED AND SAFE. AND YES, THERE ARE CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS WHOSE IDEOLOGIES ARE THREATENING OUR DEMOCRACY, INCITING DIVISIVENESS AND INTOLERANCE. WHO THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE IS UP FOR DEBATE. I'M DISHEARTENED AND I'M DISAPPOINTED BY YOUR FIRST DRAFT OF THIS RESOLUTION, BUT I'M REALLY NOT SURPRISED. THANK YOU TO THE THREE TRUSTEES WHO DID RESPOND AND TELL ME THAT YOU HAD NO PART IN THIS . TRUSTEES, BONE, WESTON AND WEIR. WHOMEVER DID DRAFT IT AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE COPY AND PASTE VERBIAGE FROM AN ORGANIZATION THAT ACTUALLY DOES INCITE HATE, VIOLENCE AND DISCRIMINATION IS PUSHING A DANGEROUS AGENDA TO FURTHER DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY. ROUND ROCK ISD CONTINUES TO PROMOTE DIVISIVENESS BASED ON THE COLOR OF ONE'S SKIN AND RELIGION OR SEXUAL PREFERENCE, RATHER THAN ACTUALLY TAKING STEPS TOWARD HEALING OUR COMMUNITY YOUR DELIBERATE ACTIONS ARE KEEPING THESE WOUNDS OPEN. A FEW MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD WE ASKED FOR TRANSPARENCY, AND IN SOME WAYS YOU ACTUALLY GAVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR. YOUR PROPOSED RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY THE MOST TRANSPARENT THING YOU'VE DONE THIS WHOLE YEAR. YOU VALUE AND ARE COMMITTED TO THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ONLY A SELECT GROUP OF STUDENTS OVER ANOTHER. I ASKED SEVERAL STUDENTS THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS. THESE STUDENTS ARE MINORITIES. THEY ARE OF DIFFERENT FAITHS, DIFFERENT SEXUAL PREFERENCES. 30 SECONDS. AND THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION IS OFFENSIVE EVEN TO THEM. I AGREE WITH YOUR RESOLUTION TO REJECT AND CONDEMN ALL GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHOSE IDEOLOGIES ARE BASED ON HATE, VIOLENCE, DISCORD AND INTOLERANCE. HOWEVER, THIS COMMUNITY STANDS FIRM AND CONDEMNS YOU AND YOUR INTENT TO PROMOTE THESE IDEOLOGIES. SOME OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF DOING THE VERY THING YOU ARE RESOLVING TO ERADICATE. IF YOU EXPECT YOUR STUDENTS AND PARENTS TO BE BETTER, IT STARTS WITH MODELING BETTER BEHAVIOR. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS LINDSEY PLATOSHIAN. I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED THE LAST NAME. HOW DO YOU SAY IT? WE ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD ENEMIES, BUT AGAINST EVIL RULERS AND AUTHORITIES OF THE UNSEEN WORLD. WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL, WHO PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS, WHO PUT BITTER FOR SWEET AND SWEET FOR BITTER. YOU CLAIM YOU'RE COMMITTED TO CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ALL CHILDREN CAN SUCCEED ALL FEEL WELCOME AND ALL ARE VALUED. ALL CHILDREN. [02:20:01] EXCEPT, OF COURSE, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO DEFENDING BIOLOGICAL REALITIES EXCEPT GIRLS WHO FEEL UNSAFE AND UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE LOCKER ROOMS WITH BOYS PRESENT. YOUR AGENDA'S WORDING FRAMES PEOPLE WHO STAND IN THE TRUTH OF [INAUDIBLE] REALITY AS HATE SPEECH, BIGOTRY OR PHOBIC OF ANY KIND. HATE SPEECH NOWADAYS IS CONSIDERED CALLING ANYTHING IN OUR REALITY FOR WHAT IT TRULY IS. WE DO NOT LIVE IN LA LA LAND WHERE ANYONE CAN BE ANYTHING. THIS IS REALITY WE ARE DEFENDING HERE. YOUR AGENDA TALKS ABOUT GROWING NUMBERS OF GROUPS SEEKING TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED. I THINK I SMELL PROJECTION. YOU ARE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN, EXCUSE ME, DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY WITH YOUR SNEAKY POLICIES, HIDING THE TRUTH OF WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING WITH WORDS LIKE DIVERSITY. YOU CLAIM TO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, BUT DIVERSITY SO FAR OUTSIDE OF THE REALMS OF WHAT IS ETHICAL AND MORAL. DO YOU INCLUDE THE PORNOGRAPHY BOOKS IN YOUR INCLUSIVITY CHECKLIST, BRAINWASHING THE YOUTH INTO THINKING THEY ARE BORN INTO THE WRONG BODY AND THAT GOING AGAINST WHAT YOU ARE BORN WITH AS TRENDY AND COOL IS NOT PROGRESSIVE. IF ANYONE THINKS THEY ARE SOMETHING WHEN THEY ARE NOT, THEY DECEIVE THEMSELVES. 30 SECONDS. THE WAY OF THE WICKED LEADS TO DESTRUCTION HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FRUITLESS DEEDS OF DARKNESS, BUT RATHER EXPOSE THEM. WE WILL NOT BE OVERCOME BY EVIL, BUT WE WILL OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WAS ITEM M6. NEXT IS JENNY GUSTIN SPEAKING TO ITEM M6. HELLO, I'M A ROUND ROCK ISD PARENT, AND I'M HERE TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT TERMINOLOGY BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE CONFUSION BETWEEN SOME OF THE TERMS LIKE RACISM, I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR UP. WEBSTER HAS TWO DEFINITIONS OF RACISM. I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE SECOND, WHICH IS THE SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSION OF A RACIAL GROUP TO THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL ADVANTAGE OF ANOTHER. THERE'S A POWER AND PRIVILEGE STRUCTURE THAT UPHOLDS AND PERPETUATES RACISM. IN THE UNITED STATES IT IS WHITE PEOPLE WHO HISTORICALLY HOLD THE POWER WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL DIVIDES, THANKS TO CENTURIES OF EUROCENTRIC BELIEFS AND STRUCTURES THAT CONTINUE TO CENTER WHITE PRIVILEGE. BY THESE VERY DEFINITIONS WHILE ANYONE COULD HOLD A RACE BASED PREJUDICE OR BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS OF RACIAL PREJUDICE BOTH INDIVIDUALS AND AS A SOCIETY, WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO EXPERIENCE RACISM. AGAIN DUE TO THE HISTORY OF CENTURIES OF EUROSCEPTICISM. WHITE PEOPLE ARE NEVER SIGNIFICANTLY HARMED OR MARGINALIZED BY RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY. ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE SHOULD SPEND SOME TIME READING ONE OF THE HISTORY BOOKS ARE STATE LEADERSHIP IS CURRENTLY TRYING TO BAN. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS RENATA SIMS SPEAKING TO ITEMS M5 AND M6. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS RENATA SIMMS, I'M A DISTRICT PARENT. I'M HERE TO REGISTER MY OBJECTION TO THE BOARD, ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED BECAUSE OF POORLY DEFINED TERMS AND CONCEPTS USED THROUGHOUT SUCH ADOPTION COULD CONFUSE THE PUBLIC. THE TERM SOCIAL JUSTICE MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR SOME GROUPS WORKING TOWARD IT THE TERM MEANS THE END OF A FREE MARKET ECONOMY, THE DISSOLUTION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND A REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. SOME BELIEVE IT MEANS EQUALITY OF OUTCOME, WHILE OTHERS BELIEVE IT MEANS EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY. THE BOARD NEEDS TO CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS BY SOCIAL JUSTICE BEFORE THEY ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION. WILL SOCIAL JUSTICE EFFORTS INVOLVE PHASING OUT GIFTED PROGRAMING OR ADVANCED MATH COURSES? OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE DOING SO IN THE NAME OF SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WOULD THIS RESOLUTION HAVE ME BRANDED AS INTOLERANT AND HATEFUL. IF I CAME TO THE FUTURE BOARD MEETING TO [INAUDIBLE] ARGUE AGAINST DROPPING GIFTED PROGRAMING OR ADVANCED MATH. THE NOTION THAT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN NEVER EXPERIENCE PREJUDICE IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THIRTY SECONDS. I HAVE EXPERIENCED PREJUDICE BEING WHITE SIMPLY FOR BEING A WHITE IMMIGRANT OF A DIFFERENT NATIONALITY. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CLEARLY DEFINE YOUR TERMS BEFORE ADOPTING ANY RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. NEXT UP IS JENNIFER ZIMMERMAN ITEMS J2, L4 AND M6. [02:25:15] HELLO AGAIN, Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME. I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU ALL FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME TO DO THIS, I KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR ALL OF US AS WELL. WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERING AND I JUST WANT TO START BY JUST SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING. WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE FALLING SHORT. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. NUMBER ONE WITH ITEM J TWO AND L FOUR OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC BASELINE READING LEVELS ARE APPALLING. OK. AND TRYING TO INCREASE THEM BY ONLY THREE PERCENT EACH YEAR OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. IT'S NO WAY TO MAKE UP FOR THE INADEQUACY BETWEEN THEM AND OUR WHITE AND ASIAN STUDENTS. THIS IS NOT OK AND WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE. WHEN IT COMES TO ITEM M6. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT WAS PUT IN AND THE IDEA BEHIND IT. HOWEVER, AS OTHER PARENTS HAVE MENTIONED, IT IS NOT CLEARLY DEFINED. IT IS NOT COMPLETELY THOUGHT OUT AS THE WAY THIS IMPACTS, AND WE NEED TO HAVE REAL POLICIES THAT IMPACT OUR STUDENTS. YESTERDAY, I EMAILED ALL OF YOU A COPY OF THE MODEL SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICY ON TRANSGENDER AND NONCONFORMING STUDENTS THAT WAS PUT OUT BY GLSEN THAT HAS POLICIES THAT OTHER DISTRICTS ARE IMPLEMENTING IN THEIR SCHOOLS TO MAKE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR TRANSGENDER AND NON-BINARY STUDENTS. I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL TAKE A MOMENT TO READ THROUGH IT, SEE HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS, MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER IN A WAY THAT IMPACTS ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. 30 SECONDS. AND MAKES ALL OF OUR STUDENTS FEEL SAFE, HEARD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND GROW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT TO KEVIN COBURN AGENDA ITEM M6. I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT AND FIRST, JUST AS A REMINDER, YOU'RE HERE TO SERVE ON BEHALF OF THIS DISTRICT STUDENTS AND THEIR EDUCATION. SADLY, NOT ONCE HAVE I FELT THAT BE YOUR PRIORITY TONIGHT. NOW ON THE M6, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, M6 IS ALL ABOUT A RESPONSE TO AN INCIDENT LAST SPRING, IN MY OPINION. YES, ABSOLUTELY THE EVENTS IN APRIL ARE UGLY AND YES, THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND LANGUAGE IS GROSS. I DISAGREE WITH IT. I THINK IT'S AWFUL. YET, AS IT HAS BEEN SAID, THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED IN GOOD INTENTIONS. THE M6 RESOLUTION CONTAINS LANGUAGE THAT THIS BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO USE TO SILENCE THOSE YOU DISAGREE WITH. YOU GET TO SIT AND LISTEN TO WHAT CITIZENS WHO ELECTED YOU TO SAY. WAIT, WHO ELECTED YOU BELIEVE AND SAY, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THINGS THAT YOU MAY FIND INTOLERANT AND DECISIVE. THAT'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA YOU LIVE IN. AS SUCH, THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT THE RIGHT FOR PARENTS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH THAT VIOLATES OUR RIGHTS AS CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY. TO HELP CLARIFY MY POINT, YEAH, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I LOOKED UP SOME LAW. IT TURNS OUT THAT IN JULY 7TH OF 2021, THE U.S. COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT IN MADISON LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF EDUCATION VERSUS A COUPLE OF PARENTS. YOU CAN LOOK THIS UP. CASE 20-4108. 30 SECONDS. THE BOARD TWICE PREVENTED THEM FROM SPEAKING FOR FAILING TO COMPLY WITH ITS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION POLICY. SOUND FAMILIAR? THE FIRST AMENDMENT APPLICABLE, AND THIS IS FROM THE READING THE FIRST AMENDMENT APPLICABLE TO THE STATES THROUGH THE FOURTEENTH, PROHIBITS THE GOVERNMENT FROM ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE BOARD'S POLICY RESTRICTIONS ON ABUSIVE, PERSONALLY DIRECTED AND ANTAGONISTIC STATEMENTS. TIME, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. THEY RESCINDED IT. YOU CAN'T DO THIS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS ERIC ZIMMERMAN AGENDA ITEM L 4. NEXT UP IS AIDEN LARSON AFTER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ERIC ZIMMERMAN. MY PRONOUNS ARE HE HIM. I WANT TO START BY CONGRATULATING THE BOARD ON THEIR SUPPORT OF CTE PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE KITCHEN RENOVATION IN AGENDA ITEM L6. AS A FORMER PARTICIPANT IN ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS, I BECAME A MASTER ELECTRICIAN BY 26, CERTIFIED ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR BY 32 AND AM NOW CHIEF RESIDENTIAL AND INSPECTOR FOR ONE [02:30:03] OF THE FASTEST GROWING MUNICIPALITIES. WITH THESE CONSTRUCTION PROPOSALS I DO QUESTION WHETHER CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN TO SMALL, LOCAL AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES. THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SCORESHEET DOES NOT REFERENCE THIS AS A MATRIX AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND SHOULD ALSO REFLECT THE SAFETY TRACK RECORD OF A COMPANY. THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, WHO IS BEING CONSIDERED IN AGENDA ITEM M3, HAS HAD TWO FATALITIES ON SCHOOL PROJECTS DUE TO HEAT STROKE. MR. SIMMONS IN 2018 AND MR. MARTINEZ IN 2019. THESE RESULTED IN NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF OSHA LITIGATION BROUGHT BY THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AGAINST THE FAMILIES OF THE DECEASED, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS. THEY ALSO FAILED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS. DURING DISCUSSION OF AGENDA ITEM J 4. I ASK THAT CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO SAFE LOCAL SMALL MINORITY ORGANIZATIONS WHEN CONSIDERING PROPOSAL FOR THESE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. NEXT IS AIDEN LARSON AGENDA ITEM M6. I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I'M REALLY INTERESTED. I DIDN'T CATCH THE SPEAKERS. MAY I ASK HIM TO COME BACK AND POINT OUT WHICH ITEMS HE? I DIDN'T CATCH IT. WHICH ITEMS HE WAS. AGENDA ITEM L 4? RIGHT? BUT HE MENTIONED SOME AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE VENDOR THAT WAS SELECTED THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC. SIR, DO YOU MIND JUST REPEATING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR AGENDA ITEM THREE? HOLD ON REAL QUICK. LET ME JUST MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY, ARE WE? I'M GOING TO. I WANT YOU TO ANSWER IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUNT TO SEE EXTENDED TIME TO SPEAK IS JUST TO CLARIFY WHICH AGENDA ITEM. OKAY, SO JUST AS CLARIFICATION FOR THAT. THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE COMPANY WAS AGENDA ITEM M3. M AS IN MARY. MARY THREE. WESTWOOD TURF PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS AIDEN LARSON AGENDA ITEM M6. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY WE WERE DOING THIS. I'VE NOT EVER HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE. SO MINE IS M6 BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE. OK. WHEN PEOPLE SEE THEMSELVES IN BOOKS, THEIR EXPERIENCES AND LIVES ARE AFFIRMED WHEN BOOKS HUMANIZE THOSE WHO ARE TYPICALLY MARGINALIZED, THE EFFECT IS TWOFOLD. THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED FEEL THEY'VE BEEN SEEN AND THE READER SEES THE HUMANITY IN PEOPLE WHO DIFFER FROM THEM WITH THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF EMOTIONS THAT THEY RECOGNIZE IN THEMSELVES. STUDENTS WHO ARE MARGINALIZED BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE, ABILITY, GENDER, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS OR SEXUALITY FACE CHALLENGES OF ACCEPTANCE OF THEMSELVES AND OF OTHERS. AND BOOKS THAT MIRROR THEIR HUMANITY CAN CHANGE THEIR LIVES. SOME SUGGEST THAT SEEING THE HUMANITY IN THOSE WHO DIFFER FROM THEMSELVES IS DANGEROUS. THEY MAY CHOOSE TO VILIFY THOSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. FEAR BECOMES A WEAPON AND CAUSES PAIN AND HARM. TO THE STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO WERE BEING HARMED BY THIS YOU ARE SEEN, YOU ARE LOVED. YOU ARE VALUED FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL HUMANITY. WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE. WE NEED YOU IN THIS WORLD. FINALLY, THE DISTRICT WAS MADE AWARE IN APRIL OF 2021 THAT ACCESS TO THE SUICIDE PREVENTION WEBSITE. SORRY, CAN'T SAY THE TREVOR PROJECT IS BLOCKED. AT ALL ON ALL SCHOOL COMPUTERS, SCHOOL COMPUTERS MAY BE THE ONLY PLACE WHERE STUDENTS FEEL SAFE ACCESSING HELP. THE GLSEN THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IS ALSO BLOCKED. IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING THE CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OR DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED. 30 SECONDS. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE FOLLOW UP ON THE PROMISE TO LIFT THE FILTER THAT PREVENTS STUDENTS FROM FINDING SUPPORT THROUGH THESE WEBSITES. AND IF YOU NEED ANOTHER EMAIL, I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT UP IS MATT FOGLE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM M6 AND AFTER MR. FOGLE IS CHRISTY SLATE. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MATT FOGLE, I'M A TAXPAYER IN RRISD AND I HAVE TWO EIGHTH GRADERS. WE AGREE THAT THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS A STRENGTH AND THAT ALL CHILDREN AND STUDENTS SHOULD BE SAFE. BUT THIS M6 RESOLUTION DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS ITS OWN PURPORTED TO MESSAGE. YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT DEMOCRACY, BUT ACTIVELY SEEK TO REDUCE PARENT INVOLVEMENT, SUPPRESS DISSENT, REDUCE DIALOG AND YOU CAMOUFLAGE YOUR POSITIONS AND AGENDA. YOU PASS AGENDAS BY DECREE AND NOT CONSENSUS. INSTEAD OF ENCOURAGING DISCUSSION, YOU'RE TRYING TO DEMONIZE CONCERNED PARENTS AND USE POWER TACTICS TO MUZZLE DISSENT. THESE ARE THE ACTS AND STRATEGIES OF TOTALITARIANS. YOU WOULD CONDEMN ANY ATTEMPT TO DISAGREE WITH THE BOARD AND AUTOMATICALLY HAVE IT [02:35:05] CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME. YOU'RE HEAVY HANDED AND POLITICALLY MOTIVATED POLICIES AND FLAGRANT DISRESPECT FOR PARENTS RIGHTS HAVE DIVIDED THIS COMMUNITY, AND THIS RESOLUTION IS HYPOCRISY IN FULL VIEW. OUR STUDENTS DESERVE A BOARD THAT SPENDS LESS TIME ON THE FASHIONABLE POLITICS OF ITS PRIVILEGED MEMBERS AND INSTEAD DIVES INTO THE DETAILS AND SPECIFICS OF PROVIDING ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE TO ALL STUDENTS. I GUESS IT'S EX PRESIDENT WEIR, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAID YOU WOULD REJECT THE NOMINATION FOR ONE OF YOUR POSITIONS, IT WAS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH PUBLIC SPEAKERS. THAT'S US. AND THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS RELATIONSHIP. THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS ADVERSARIAL TO THE PEOPLE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING AND REPRESENTING. I HOPE, PRESIDENT FELLER, THAT YOUR APPROACH IS DIFFERENT, THAT WE START DOING THINGS MORE AS A PARTNERSHIP, ENGAGING WITH US AND LISTENING. YOU ALL WANT TO BE LISTENED TO AND YOU ALL WANT TO BE HEARD. SO DO WE. TIME. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS CHRISTY SLATE SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM L-3, M5 AND M6. HI, I'M CHRISTY SLATE. I WILL SAY THAT ON M6. I DO CONCUR WITH MR. FOGLE. THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I'LL JUST SPEND MOST OF MY TIME ON L-3. I AM PLEASED TO SEE THE DUE ATTENTION BROUGHT TO THE BOARD GOAL NUMBER THREE OF COLLEGE CAREER AND MILITARY READINESS. I AM ASKING TONIGHT THAT THE BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING DONE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WILL BE DONE IN THE FUTURE TO REACH THE GOALS STATED IN YOUR PROVIDED DOCUMENTS. I WILL FIRST BEGIN BY SAYING THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY EXCELLENT TEACHERS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS AND INSPIRING YOUR STUDENTS. THANK YOU TO THOSE TEACHERS. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK I AM GETTING, THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF UNSTRUCTURED TIME IN THE CLASSROOMS AT MY CHILD'S HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH SEEMINGLY DETRACTS FROM GOAL NUMBER THREE. I HAVE BEEN TOLD NUMEROUS TIMES THAT STUDENTS ARE GIVEN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF CLASS TIME, SOMETIMES HALF THE CLASS PERIOD, WITH PERMISSION TO FINISH WORK IN OTHER CLASSES OR JUST BE ON THEIR PHONES. THIS LACK OF STRUCTURE MAY BE THE FALLOUT FROM THE SYNCHRONOUS ASYNCHRONOUS SCHEDULE FROM ONLINE LEARNING, BUT THIS WILL NOT FLY MOVING FORWARD. BECAUSE SOME TEACHERS, NOT ALL, ARE NOT ENGAGING STUDENTS WITH CHALLENGING INDEPENDENT PRACTICE. THIS TIME ULTIMATELY BECOMES A FREE FOR ALL WHERE STUDENTS SCROLL AIMLESSLY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS ON THEIR PHONE OR ENGAGE IN FRIVOLOUS, DISRUPTIVE, AND INAPPROPRIATE CONVERSATIONS. IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE COLLEGE CAREER AND MILITARY READINESS I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT AN EMPHASIS BE PLACED ON CLASSROOM TEACHERS TO FILL THEIR LESSONS WITH ENGAGING, INTERACTIVE AND INSPIRING INSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS STRUCTURED GROUP AND INDEPENDENT PRACTICE. AS A FORMER TEACHER, I BELIEVE THAT TOO MUCH TIME IS NOW BEING DEVOTED TO STUDENT AND TEACHER SCREEN TIME. THIS CONSTITUTES A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF TEACHING AND LEARNING THAT CERTAINLY WILL NOT LEAD TO COLLEGE CAREER AND MILITARY READINESS. FINALLY, I AM BOTH DISAPPOINTED AND OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE TODAY, FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, I FORMALLY WITHDREW MY 10TH GRADER FROM ROUND ROCK ISD. IT WAS A HARD DECISION TO MAKE, BUT WE FEEL IT WAS FOR THE BEST FOR HER AND FOR OUR FAMILY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. NEXT IS LENORA GREENE SPEAKING TO M6. AFTER THAT WILL BE, ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] SORRY. AGAIN, THIS IS LENORA GREENE AGENDA ITEM M6. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S LATE AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO EVEN LATER, SO THANK YOU. WE, THE PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT ALL CHILDREN AND THE RIGHT TO SEEK AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION ARE CONCERNED WITH THE M6 RESOLUTION AS WORDED, AND WE'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE REPRESSION OF PARENTAL RIGHTS, THE LACK OF INCLUSION AND THE DESCENT THAT IT REPRESENTS. ALL CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY THOSE MOST AT RISK AND DISADVANTAGED, DESERVE BETTER, BETTER THAN THE CURRENT DRAFT. WE ASK THAT WE SPEND MORE TIME ON THE DETAILS AND SPECIFICS OF PROVIDING ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, WE ASK THAT WE RESOLVE TO SIMPLY RESPECT ONE ANOTHER AND WE ASK FOR A RESOLUTION THAT IDENTIFIES UNIFYING ITEMS AND CHARACTERISTICS AND COMMONALITIES FOR ALL [02:40:01] OF US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS ROBERT [INAUDIBLE]. I NEED YOU TO TELL ME HOW TO PRONOUNCE THAT. AGENDA ITEM L3. AFTER THAT WILL BE JENNIFER WHITE AGENDA ITEM M6. HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? IT'S [INAUDIBLE]. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. [INAUDIBLE] OK. EVERYBODY GETS IT WRONG, INCLUDING ME SO. I'LL TRY. SO I'M A PARENT IN THE DISTRICT. I GOT A COUPLE OF KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND SO EVEN THOUGH WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT PROBABLY AFFECTS ME LESS. THE REASON WHY I'M SPEAKING ON THIS IS BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER KIDS IN THE DISTRICT, BUT REALLY, I HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH, BUT IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO ME FOR REASONS I'LL TELL YOU WHY. SO THIS IS ABOUT GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES. SO THIS DISTRICT HAS AN ENORMOUS BUDGET, RIGHT? IT'S OVER FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, SO THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPECTATION OF ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE. AND IN EVERY GRADING SYSTEM I'VE SEEN AND I'VE TAUGHT TOO AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL, NINETY PERCENT IS CONSIDERED EXCELLENT IN STANDARD GRADING POLICY AND WE SHOULD EXPECT THIS. WE SHOULD DEMAND THIS FOR ON LEVEL PERFORMANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR. SO AT THE PROPOSED RATE OF IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR, 90 PERCENT ATTAINMENT FOR THIRD GRADE LITERACY AND MATH PERFORMANCE WILL TAKE 11 AND 14 YEARS, RESPECTIVELY. NOW, THE ASIAN AND SOUTH ASIAN DEMOGRAPHIC WILL REACH THEIR MATH GOALS IN TWO YEARS, WHICH IS FAR EARLIER THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC. NOW YOU LOOK AT AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANICS, AT THAT RATE, IT'S 20 YEARS, THAT'S A GENERATION. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE GOAL IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO THIS BOARD OUGHT TO SPEND LESS TIME, WHAT I CONSIDER VIRTUE SIGNALING THROUGH M6, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT ALONE IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS. IF IT MAKES YA FEEL BETTER ABOUT OURSELVES, GREAT PASS IT. BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO IMPROVE EDUCATION IN THIS DISTRICT. OK? AND INSTEAD UNCOVER THE WINNING STRATEGY FOR ALL STUDENTS AND FOCUS ON THAT. FOCUS ON EDUCATION. I'M LOOKING TO YOU DR. AZAIEZ, FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THIS. IT CANNOT BE ACCEPTABLE WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I WANT TO SPEAK TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN ATTAINMENT FOR MATH. IT'S A TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT. ON WHAT PLANET IS THAT ACCEPTABLE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESOLUTIONS ABOUT EQUITY. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME, AND IT SHOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE ELSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS JENNIFER WHITE AGENDA ITEM M6. NEXT IS LINDA [APPLAUSE]. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE BOARD TO REJECT THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD CONDEMN ISD PARENTS. THE TERMS OF THE RESOLUTION ARE NOT WELL DEFINED, AND IT'S UNCLEAR FROM THE DOCUMENT HOW THE BOARD IS DEFINING INTOLERANCE AND HATE SPEECH. MY CONCERN IS THAT SHORT OF A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT THE BOARD DEEMS HATE SPEECH OR INTOLERANCE, THE TERMS COULD BE APPLIED ARBITRARILY FOR THE SAKE OF SILENCING CRITICS OF SCHOOL BOARD POLICY. THERE'S NO LEGAL DEFINITION OF THE WORD HATE SPEECH IN THE U.S. OR IN TEXAS. SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE HATE SPEECH COVERS ANYTHING THAT CONFLICTS WITH THEIR CLOSED HELD IDEAS AND POLITICAL VIEWS. FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE WHO QUESTION THE WISDOM OF ALLOWING BIOLOGICAL MALES IN SPACES RESERVED FOR BIOLOGICAL GIRLS AND FEMALES HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY ACCUSED OF HATE SPEECH AND BEING INTOLERANT OF SIMPLY VOICING THEIR CONCERNS. FURTHERMORE, WILL INTENT OF THE SPEAKER MATTER OR WILL THE PERCEPTION OF THE LISTENER IN DETERMINING WHETHER SOMETHING FALLS UNDER INTOLERANCE? CONSIDER THAT THE COURTS HAVE LONG HELD THAT GOVERNMENT CANNOT SILENCE SPEECH JUST BECAUSE IT HURTS FEELINGS OR CAUSE OFFENSE. WITHOUT CLEAR DEFINITIONS OF THESE TERMS, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. NEXT IS LINDA [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM SIX. LINDA [INAUDIBLE]. SHE ALREADY LEFT. I WILL PUT HER TO THE SIDE IN CASE SHE COMES BACK. NEXT UP IS DON ZIMMERMAN AGENDA M6 AND THEN ISRAEL [INAUDIBLE]. I'M DON ZIMMERMAN, I'M SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM IN M6, I SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS VERY HATEFUL DEVICES AND RACIST RESOLUTION. THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION STARTS AS A FRAUD. IT SAYS RESOLUTION CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED. BUT THE RESOLUTION DOES EXACTLY THAT. THE RESOLUTION DIVIDES OUR DISTRICT INTO TWO GROUPS A WELCOMED AND VALUED GROUP AND A REJECTED AND CONDEMNED GROUP. BUT THE RESOLUTION THOUGHTFULLY ENUMERATES AND TELLS US EXACTLY WHO IS WHO. HERE ARE THE WELCOMED AND VALUED PEOPLE. [02:45:03] AND I'M QUOTING FROM YOUR RESOLUTION, BLACK, INDIGENOUS, LATINX, JEWISH, MUSLIM, ARAB, ASIAN AMERICAN, PACIFIC ISLANDER AND OF COURSE, THE MOST HIGHLY PRIVILEGED GROUP OF ALL THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. SO WHO IS REJECTED AND CONDEMNED EVERYONE ELSE? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS RESOLUTION IS SO VILE AND DISGUSTING THAT I CALL IN A LEADING POLITICAL RACIST OF ROUND ROCK TIFF HARRISON TO RESIGN IMMEDIATELY FOR THE CAUSE OF ABUSING POWER BY DELIBERATELY INCITING RACIST DIVISION AND HATRED IN GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED SCHOOLS. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE GREATEST TEACHER WHO EVER WALKED ON THE EARTH. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JESUS OF NAZARETH. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS! [APPLAUSE] NEXT IS. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. NEXT IS ISRAEL [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM M6. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME I'VE ATTENDED ANY OF THESE MEETINGS AND I TELL YOU WHAT IT'S CRAZY. I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. BUT MY TOPIC THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS M6. YOUR RESOLUTION STATES. YOU REJECT GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHOSE IDEOLOGIES ARE BASED ON HATE, VIOLENCE AND DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. BUT BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION, YOU ARE DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'RE STATING MULTIPLE ETHNIC GROUPS, BUT EXCLUDING WHITE PEOPLE. NOW, I BELIEVE I'M SUPPOSED TO ONLY TALK TO Y'ALL, BUT I KNOW THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME ARE HEARING ME AS WELL. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WELL-BEING OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS, BUT I'M CONCERNED WITH THE LABEL OF LATINX, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE MENTIONED LABEL LATINX BUT BEING HISPANIC MYSELF, THE TERM LATINX IS OFFENSIVE. THE [INAUDIBLE] JUST REPORTED YESTERDAY THAT LULAC, THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS, A VERY LIBERAL HISPANIC ORGANIZATION, DIRECTED THE GROUP TO CEASE USING THAT TERM. IT'S VERY DISLIKED BY NEARLY ALL HISPANICS, AND YOU ALL ARE PROMOTING THAT TERM, SO Y'ALL NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH ON HOW HISPANICS FEEL ABOUT THIS LATINX CRAP. IT'S TERRIBLE. OK, NOW THE RESOLUTION BASICALLY SUPPORTS CRT, RIGHT? AND IF YOU SUPPORT CRT, YOU'RE TEACHING YOUR WHITE CHILDREN THAT IS THEIR FAULT THAT PEOPLE THINK THERE'S RACISM AND THAT OTHER RACES ARE INFERIOR. I DON'T TEACH MY CHILD TO THINK OR LOOK AT THEMSELVES AS INCAPABLE OF COMPETING AGAINST WHITE STUDENTS OR WHITE CHILDREN. TO USE RACE AS A CRUTCH IS WRONG. AND IF YOU WANT EQUALITY, TEACH EACH CHILD THE SAME, GIVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO EVERYONE, NOT PRIVILEGED CHILDREN, NOT JUST THIS PERSON, BECAUSE HE'S THIS. LET'S GIVE THEM THIS. NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. [APPLAUSE] OK, I'M GOING TO GO BACK, WE HAD TWO SPEAKERS WHO WERE NOT HERE. RICKY NELSON AND LINDA [INAUDIBLE] DID EITHER OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. OK, I WILL CALL FOR THEM AGAIN AT THE END OF VIRTUAL JUST TO MAKE SURE, GIVING EVERYBODY A CHANCE. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS NOW. FIRST UP IS HEIDI GOLDMAN SPEAK. OH, OH, SORRY, THAT'S IN PERSON. SORRY, I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE ONLY HAVE A FEW VIRTUAL IN PERSON THAT SIGNED UP ONLINE. APOLOGIES. SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM L3. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. I'M HEIDI GOLDMAN. I'M A PARENT ORGANIZER OF THE ROUND ROCK DYSLEXIC. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. CAN YOU START OUR TIME OVER? GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE TO JUST CAN'T HEAR YOU, IF POSSIBLE, OR SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN HEAR YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER? OK? I'M HEIDI GOLDMAN. I'M THE PARENT AND ORGANIZER OF THE ROUND ROCK DYSLEXIA GROUP, CO-CHAIR OF C-PAC DYSLEXIA COMMITTEE. I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS ON THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. THESE GOALS SIMPLY CANNOT BE PASSED IF THEY CONTINUE TO OMIT DATA AND GOALS FOR STUDENTS WITH A DISABILITY SERVED UNDER 504 PLANS AND STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA TO BE MONITORED AS A UNIQUE STUDENT GROUP. CURRENTLY, 75 PERCENT OF STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA RECEIVE INTERVENTIONS UNDER 504 PLANS IN THIS DISTRICT, AND THEREFORE THE SUCCESS OF THESE STUDENTS IS NOWHERE MEASURED IN YOUR CURRENT GOALS FOR READING, MATH, COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS. UNDER 504, THE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO STUDENTS WITH DYSLEXIA WITHOUT INDIVIDUAL EDUCATION PLANS TO MONITOR PROGRESS IS THAT IT ALLOWED THIS DISTRICT TO CHOOSE TO HEAVILY INVEST IN A TIER THREE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PROGRAM FOR DYSLEXIA AND THEN PROVIDE ONLY HALF OF THE PROGRAM TO NINETY NINE PERCENT OF ALL STUDENTS RECEIVING IT. THE DISTRICT CHOSE TO ONLY PROVIDE AN INTRODUCTORY THREE DAY TRAINING TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF EDUCATORS, PROVIDING THIS PROGRAM INSTEAD OF THE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED LEVEL TWO [02:50:03] CERTIFICATION NEEDED. SO I ASK YOU, HAS THIS BEEN EFFECTIVE? SUPPOSEDLY, THERE'S NO DATA SYSTEM THAT WE CAN USE RIGHT NOW TO TRACK THESE STUDENTS OR GIVE YOU A BASELINE. AND NOW I'M UNDERSTANDING SOMETHING'S BEING WORKED ON. IT IS JUST HARD TO CONTINUE TO WAIT AND SEE AND HOPE THAT THESE GOALS WILL BE ADDED SOMEHOW IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE HAVEN'T SPENT YEARS TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU TO SEE THIS INEQUITY. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THINK ABOUT THE MESSAGE YOU'RE CONVEYING TO THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU SET GOALS FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS THAT ARE HALF OF THAT OF ALL OTHER STUDENT GROUPS, SO ARE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE OR SKILLED EDUCATORS TO MAKE APPROPRIATE GAINS? OR DO YOU JUST THINK OUR KIDS SIMPLY CAN'T LEARN? SO HOW WILL YOU IMPROVE EDUCATION OF OUR STUDENTS MOST IN NEED IF YOU DO NOT PRIORITIZE THEM IN THE GOALS YOU PRESENT TODAY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM M5. HELLO. SO I'M SPEAKING ON M5, AND I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN. I WELCOME CHANGES ANNOUNCED TO ALLOW VOLUNTEERS ON CAMPUS THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT TODAY. HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT AS PARENTS, WE ARE TRULY PARTNERING WITH THE DISTRICT WHEN WE SEND OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL. THERE MAY BE THINGS AT SCHOOL WE DON'T LOVE THAT OTHER PARENTS ABSOLUTELY DO AND VICE VERSA, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE THINGS AT HOME, IF NEEDED, THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH OUR KIDS AND IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER WITH OUR CHILDREN'S TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS. AND THIS IS MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN FOR YOU GUYS, BUT THE VILIFYING OF OUR TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS HAS TO STOP. WE KNOW THEY LOVE OUR STUDENTS AND ARE NOT HERE TO INDOCTRINATE THEM, BUT TO LOVE THEM AND TEACH THEM AND SUPPORT THEM. NOT ALL, BUT SOME IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE DRIVING THEM AWAY FROM EDUCATION, AND IT IS INCREDIBLY SAD. WE NEED TO UPLIFT THEM AND SUPPORT THEM IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS, [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM M6. [INAUDIBLE] OK. NEXT IS ORLANDO SALINAS AGENDA ITEM M6. AGENDA ITEM M6. I RESPECT THE INTENT OF THIS BILL. I KNOW YOUR HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE. HOWEVER, THE SPIRIT OF THIS BILL IS ONE OF DIVISIVENESS RATHER THAN INCLUSION. AS A HISPANIC-AMERICAN, I AM SINCERELY OFFENDED BY THE USE OF THE TERM LATINX. THIS IS THE EPITOME OF LINGUISTIC IMPERIALISM. PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. I WON'T MENTION LULAC, IT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP. FURTHER, I STAND FOR AND BELIEVE IN THE RESPECT AND AUTONOMY OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN ROUND ROCK ISD. AND THIS RESOLUTION SELECTIVELY OUTLINES NATIONALITIES, RELIGIONS, AND RACES IT WISHES TO RECOGNIZE AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH. NO RACE, GENDER, ETHNICITY OR RELIGION SHOULD BE MADE TO FEEL INFERIOR IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE CURRENT RESOLUTION DOES PRECISELY THAT. ACCORDING TO THE ROUND ROCK ISD 2021 STAR PERFORMANCE REPORT, EIGHT PERCENT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN SEVENTH GRADERS DO MATH ON THE SEVENTH GRADE LEVEL, AND TWENTY SIX PERCENT OF HISPANIC EIGHTH GRADERS DO MATH ON THE EIGHTH GRADE LEVEL. TO BORROW FROM APOLLO 13 ROUND ROCK, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. I IMPLORE THIS BOARD TO PLEASE CEASE WITH VIRTUE SIGNALING ARTICULATED IN THIS RESOLUTION AND INSTEAD SEEK TANGIBLE ACTIONS TO ASSIST THESE ROUND ROCK ISD STUDENTS. WE ARE JUDGED BY OUR ACTIONS, NOT OUR INTENTIONS. THE INTENT OF THIS RESOLUTION FALLS DRASTICALLY SHORT OF THE ACTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED BY THIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DEVELOP A RISK TIER STRATEGY FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED THAT ARE CURRENTLY FAILING AND UPDATE US QUARTERLY ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE MINORITY POPULATION. I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME. [APPLAUSE]THANK YOU. NEXT IS DAVID [INAUDIBLE], AGENDA ITEM M6. DAVID [INAUDIBLE]. NEXT IS RYAN DAILY AGENDA ITEM M6. HELLO. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK TRUSTEE VESSA FOR GOING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS WEEK TO TRY AND FIGHT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND SCHOOLS TO GET MORE MONEY. I THINK THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT. SO THANK YOU. MY FIRST EXPERIENCE AT THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS A MEETING AT WHICH PEOPLE [02:55:06] SHOUTED AT SPEAKERS TO GO HOME AND GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM. AS AN OUTSIDER, YOU KNOW, TO THIS DISTRICT REALLY COMING IN AT THAT POINT, HAVING ONLY LIVED HERE FOR A YEAR. THAT WAS LESS THAN IDEAL, I THINK. THAT'S NOT HOW WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED. I'M SURE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD TRY AND CLAIM THE SAME JOKING DENIABILITY ABOUT THOSE WORDS AS THE PERSON INSPIRED BY AN INTERVIEW WITH ONE OF OUR TRUSTEES TO WRITE AND REFERENCE TO DISTRICT STAFF. STRING THEM UP. THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL LEARN, FOLLOWED BY I MET WITH LIGHTS LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE OF COURSE. SINCE THAT FIRST MEETING I ATTENDED, THE HATRED IS ESCALATED. WE NOW HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVITING PEOPLE INTO OUR DISTRICT TO SPEW ANTI-SEMITISM AND HATE AND WAVE THE FLAG OF THE CONFEDERACY IN FRONT OF OLD HOPEWELL. FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNAWARE, OLD HOPEWELL WAS ROUND ROCK SEGREGATED SCHOOL UNTIL DESEGREGATION WAS FORCED IN 1966. YOU MAY CLAIM THAT'S HERITAGE. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS HERITAGE, THE HERITAGE AND OF THE BELIEF THAT ALL MEN WERE NOT CREATED EQUAL AND THAT SOME MEN HAD THE RIGHT TO OWN AS SLAVES, THE PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS OF THOSE WHO ATTENDED THAT VERY SCHOOL. I AGREE WITH MODELING BETTER BEHAVIOR. SO THEN WHY DID WE HAVE TRUSTEES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS STAND AND SMILE AND CHITCHAT WHILE REFUSING TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE, NEVER MIND ACT AGAINST THE TOXICITY AND HATRED THAT YOU'RE ACTIVELY DRAWING INTO AND OUT OF THIS DISTRICT? BUT I SUPPOSE IT'S ALL OK AS LONG AS YOU YOURSELF BENEFIT. MY PARENTS CAME TO THIS COUNTRY 35 40 YEARS AGO TO ESCAPE ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION. AND I'M NOT GOING TO STAND BY AND I'LL HATE TO TAKE HOLD HERE. THIS IS THERE'S A LOT OF HATE. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THROUGH THIS, AND MAYBE WE DON'T AGREE ON THE WORDING HERE, BUT I THINK THE STATEMENT ITSELF IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. NEXT IS MATT KEPPLER AGENDA ITEM M6. NEXT IS JEREMY STORY AFTER THIS ONE. AGAIN, MATT KEPPLER, AGENDA M6. HI. YES, I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS M6 AGENDA ITEM HERE, AND I'M NOTICING THAT IT'S IT'S CALLING OUT VERY SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT IT WANTS TO SUPPORT. IT'S LEAVING OFF OTHER LARGE GROUPS, BUT YET IT'S TALKING ABOUT CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS LANGUAGE IS. AND I'LL POINT OUT, THIS LANGUAGE IS NOT UNIQUE, RIGHT? THIS IS SWEEPING THROUGH SCHOOL BOARDS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. OK, THIS ISN'T UNIQUE. THIS IS A DELIBERATE ATTACK. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T ACCIDENTALLY LEAVE WHITE PEOPLE OFF HERE OR MEN OR STRAIGHT PEOPLE. YOU DID THIS DELIBERATELY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE DOING IT DELIBERATELY TO TO DIVIDE AND AND CAUSE ALL KINDS OF I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY YOU'RE CAUSING THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE HONESTLY, I COULD BE TALKING ABOUT M6. I COULD BE TALKING ABOUT M5 BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR FIVE HOURS AND NOT ONE TIME HAVE WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOMES, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME. YOU GUYS ARE WASTING ALL YOUR ALL'S TIME, ALL OF OUR TIME. YOU'RE WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME. YOU'RE WASTING EVERYONE'S MONEY. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE. OK? YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT BOARD PROCESSES WHOSE BCC OTHER PEOPLE LIKE, SERIOUSLY, LIKE, DOES THIS A MATTER? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR CHILDREN HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION. THAT'S WHAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ABOUT. YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT THAT WHAT GETS ON THE AGENDA ISN'T THIS KIND OF GARBAGE. OK, WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN SCHOOLS AND WITH EDUCATION. YOU CONTROL WHAT GOES ON THE AGENDA. DON'T PUT THIS STUFF ON HERE. THIS IS THE COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S STICK TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. [J. SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS] I'M HOPING ALSO THAT WE CAN BRING THIS THING BACK TOGETHER. ALSO BACK TOGETHER WITH US, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. WE ALL WANT OUR KIDS TO HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME. ALL RIGHT. SO KEEP THE GARBAGE OUT OF THE AGENDA. FOCUS ON EDUCATION. IT'S NOT EDUCATION RELATED. YOU SAY THIS DOESN'T BELONG HERE. THIS ISN'T GOING IN OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EDUCATION RELATED. OK. STOP THE DIVISIVENESS THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY. OK, BRING IT BACK TOGETHER. FOCUS ON THE CHILDREN. NEXT IS JEREMY'S STORY AGENDA ITEM M6. NEXT IS [INAUDIBLE] I THINK THE GOAL IS VERY GOOD AT THIS RESOLUTION, M6, THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD BE PURSUING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION. I KNOW FROM MY ENTIRE LIFE OR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT, 25 YEARS. 26 YEARS, I HAVE SERVED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND TRYING TO PROMOTE RACIAL UNITY ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'VE DONE WITH MY ENTIRE LIFE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT MANY OTHER CONTINENTS DOING THAT. SO I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE TERMS. IN MY FEELING, I BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS CREATED US ALL EQUAL. THAT MEANS EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT WE'RE ALL CREATED IN HIS IMAGE. AND I DON'T LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND SEE PEOPLE THAT WEAR MASKS OR DON'T WEAR MASKS TO DISAGREE OR AGREE WITH ME. I LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL EQUAL THAT WE TREAT WITH EQUALITY. AND OUTSIDE IN THE HALLWAY, I HAD ONE OF THE BEST CONVERSATIONS I'VE EVER HAD IN THESE BOARD MEETINGS, AND IT WAS WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE SAID. [INAUDIBLE], AND I WERE ABLE TO HAVE A COMMON CONVERSATION AND COME AROUND SOME AGREEMENT AROUND HOW WE THINK STUDENTS CAN BE AFFECTED IN THINGS. [03:00:01] AND IT WAS REALLY THE BEST CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD. AND I THINK THAT'S TRUE EQUITY, NOT THIS RESOLUTION. SEE, WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES INSTEAD IS IT PICKS WINNERS AND LOSERS. IT BASICALLY SAYS IN PITS ONE PEOPLE AGAINST ANOTHER PEOPLE. SEE, I DIDN'T COME HERE TONIGHT OR IN ANY OF THESE BOARD MEETINGS TO CHEER ON A PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBER OR PICK A PARTICULAR TEAM BECAUSE THE KIDS LOSE THAT GAME. SOCIAL JUSTICE, WHICH IS MENTIONED IN THIS RESOLUTION TO ME, MEANS SPEAKING UP FOR THE VOICELESS ON BEHALF OF BEING OPPRESSED, WHO ARE BEING OPPRESSED BY THE POWERFUL. WHEN I STOOD UP TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW PRESIDENT DISEASE HAS SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS OF ASSAULTING A WOMAN WHO WAS VOICELESS, THIS BOARD ARRESTED ME. THIS BOARD PUT ME IN JAIL. THIS BOARD STOPPED ME FROM SPEAKING EVEN BEFORE I UTTERED A WORD PRESUMED TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS TRUE SOCIAL JUSTICE, THAT'S THE REAL ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE US TO STOP WHAT I TRIED TO STOP INSTEAD OF JUST MEANINGLESS WORDS. AND I'LL SAY TO YOU, MR. AZAIEZ, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU. BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO RESIGN SO THAT OUR DISTRICT CAN MOVE ON WITH THE IMPORTANT THINGS THE EDUCATION OF CHILDREN. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPEAKING. NEXT IS [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA ITEM M6. AND I PROBABLY DID NOT PRONOUNCE YOUR FIRST NAME CORRECTLY. HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? YOU DID IT PERFECTLY. OH OKAY.[INAUDIBLE] TIME FOR MY TWO MINUTES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS HUGH TRAN. I CAME TO THE U.S. WITH MY FAMILY WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. WE WERE BOAT PEOPLE. WE WERE POLITICAL REFUGEES. WE ESCAPED COMMUNISM. I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN ME, EVERYTHING I HAVE TODAY IS THE RESULT OF THE GENEROSITY OF THE U.S. AND ITS CITIZENS. IT'S BEEN TWENTY NINE YEARS AND I THINK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS STILL THE GREATEST NATION IN HISTORY. AND I STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AS AN AMERICAN, NOT ASIAN AMERICAN, NOT VIETNAMESE, AMERICAN, AS AN AMERICAN. YOUR RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE ACTIONS TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED SHOULD APPLY IT AGAINST YOU SHOULD BE APPLIED AGAINST YOU, WHOEVER WROTE OR APPROVES OF IT. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FURTHER DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY. YOU ONLY WANT CATEGORIZING PEOPLE PUT IN PUTTING THEM INTO A BASKET OF BLACKS, LATINX, JEWISH, MUSLIM, ASIAN-AMERICANS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. NOT LISTING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS THE IS AN ACT OF HATRED IN AND OF ITSELF. YOU HAVE AN F RATING IN FINANCIAL INTEGRITY LAST FISCAL YEAR AND YOU EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY ALMOST $17 MILLION. YOU HAVE ISSUES THAT REQUIRES THE TEA INTERVENTION. YOU HAVE 47 PERCENT OF THE OVERALL THIRD GRADERS THAT DOES NOT MEET THIRD GRADE READING LEVEL. YOU HAVE 60 PERCENT OF THE OVERALL THIRD GRADERS NOT MEETING THE THIRD GRADER THIRD GRADE LEVEL MATH SCORES. AND YOU WANT TO VIRTUE SIGNAL BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY DO NOTHING TO HELP OUR STUDENTS. BUT ONLY TO FURTHER DIVIDE THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE AMERICANS AND ALL OF US SHOULD BE PROTECTED, NOT JUST A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO STOP DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY AND REJECT THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. I NEED I NEED TO SEEK A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM MR. PUNIC. WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS SIGNED UP FOR A PROCEDURAL AGENDA ITEM BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS. WOULD THAT TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP TO WOULD SAY IT'S NOT A TRUE AGENDA ITEM, IT'S JUST SO THAT IT'S A PROCEDURAL MATTER. OK, I'LL PUT THAT. I'LL PUT THAT AT THE END, SINCE WE'RE ALL SPEAKING TOGETHER AT THE SAME PART. NOW WE ARE TRULY AT THE END OF OUR IN-PERSON SPEAKERS AND WE WILL GO TO WITH AGENDA ITEMS. WE WILL GO TO VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. AND FIRST ONE WILL BE LINDY DOWER. AGENDA ITEM M1. AND I'M OLD, SO DISTRESSED, JUST REMEMBER. BUT TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HANNAH DEL TORO, A PARENT WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT AND HANNAH SAYS, OMICRON HAS ENTERED THE PICTURE SINCE I LAST ADDRESSED THIS BOARD. I WROTE THE BOARD REQUESTING THAT VIRTUAL BE CONTINUED FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE THAT ARE MEDICALLY HIGH RISK. THIS ISSUE IS NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH ON, AND AS I WARNED, WE MIGHT BE YET AGAIN IN ANOTHER SITUATION THAT IS REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PREVENTIVE. WE DO NOT KNOW IMPACT TO CHILDREN UNDER FIVE. [03:05:02] WE DO NOT KNOW IMPACT TO OUR HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE OVERWHELMED TOO OFTEN IN THIS PANDEMIC. HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY KNOW THE IMPACT OF THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM NOT PROVIDING SAFE, ONGOING VIRTUAL OPTIONS AND THE IMPACT TO MY FAMILY, AND NOW EVEN MORE FAMILIES WITH SIMILAR NEEDS TO OURS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS MUST PROVIDE A SAFE EDUCATION FOR ALL STUDENTS . IN THE PRIOR LETTER, I ASK YOU TO ADVOCATE WHERE I AM TIRED. I ASKED YOU TO INNOVATE WHERE THERE IS NEED. THIS IS NOT HAPPENING YET. THIS IS AN EDUCATION INNOVATIVE ISSUE. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AGAIN TO PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL STUDENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT. FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT RECOMMEND CHARTER OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS FOR MEDICALLY VULNERABLE FAMILIES, PLEASE STOP. YOU SIGNED UP TO SERVE A PUBLIC INSTITUTION, INNOVATE IN PLACE OF THE HARM YOU HAVE CAUSED THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG YOU. AS OF LAST WEEK, I POSTED IN ROUND ROCK ISD VIRTUAL SCHOOL GROUP THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE FORCED INTO HOME SCHOOLING FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS, SO I COMMUNICATED WITH SEVERAL FAMILIES THAT ARE NOW FEELING FORCED OUT BY UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR THEIR FAMILIES MEDICAL NEEDS. TIME, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I DID INADVERTENTLY SKIP SOMEONE WHO IS IN PERSON, I APOLOGIZE. I'M STILL GETTING USED TO THE WAY THIS IS ALL LAID OUT. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE IN-PERSON SPEAKER FOR LESLIE WINTERS AGENDA ITEM M6. SHE'S NOT HERE. OK. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, VIRTUAL SPEAKER IS LUCKY CAMPBELL. SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM M5. IT WAS ACTUALLY M6. THAT'S WHAT I SUBMITTED. OK, OK. OK, SO MY NAME IS LUCKY, CAMPBELL, STATE DIRECTOR OF [INAUDIBLE] TEXAS. AND SPEAKING OF M6, IN ORDER TO SECURE SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR ALL, THIS RESOLUTION SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL WHO ARE OF THE HUMAN RACE. WITHOUT DOING SO, INSTEAD OF GETTING SOCIAL JUSTICE, YOU WILL BE CREATING EMOTIONAL INJUSTICES. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE AS MUCH AS IT'S ABOUT BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT. ALL THE TIME, BLACK, INDIGENOUS LATINX AND SO ON. ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE GROUPS ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST, AMERICAN AND TEXANS, WHETHER THEY WERE BORN HERE OR THEY CAME HERE TO BECOME AMERICAN AND TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. WHY CALL FOR THE SEPARATION AND PROTECTION OF THIS GROUP? ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE IN THESE GROUPS CAN ALSO BE HATEFUL AND DIVISIVE. SO LET'S NOT USE PROGRESSIVE LANGUAGE TO CAUSE A REGRESSION IN THE UNITY OF ALL AMERICANS. THIS LINE OF THINKING GIVES WAY TO SEGREGATION HERE IN THE 21ST CENTURY. THIS RESOLUTION CREATES A SOCIETY THAT IS UNEQUAL AND SEPARATED BY RACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS KAWANA PITTS TO AGENDA ITEM M5, KAWANA PITTS. I DO NOT SEE HER ON THE SPEAKER LIST. NEXT IS JODI HUANG, AGENDA ITEM M6. I'M THE IMMIGRANT OF 30 YEARS, AND I LOVE AMERICA AS A MINORITY MYSELF I DEEPLY APPRECIATE I DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THOSE WHO CHAMPIONED RACIAL EQUALITY AND DESIRE CHANGE, HOWEVER, BUT OVER EMPHASIZING RACIAL ISSUES, WE ARE TURNING INNOCENT CHILDREN INTO PREJUDICED KIDS. WHEN THE BOARD REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF THE RRISD COMMUNITY, I NOTICED WHITE WAS THE ONLY RACE LEFT OUT. YES, WHITES ARE POWERFUL AND PRIVILEGED MAJORITY IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT ARE WE INADVERTENTLY PROMOTING HATRED AND INTOLERANCE AGAINST THEM? TOLERANCE MEANS RESPECTING OTHERS RIGHTS TO BE WRONG. CENSORSHIP MEANS CANCELING ALL OPPOSING VOICES, SINCE ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. WE MUST LEARN TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. IF THE BOARD DOES NOT WANT TO BE SUED, STOP ATTACKING MARY AND DANIELLE. THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO REPRESENT THEIR VOTERS. JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE BOARD. CLASS WARS AND POLITICAL CENSORSHIP ARE COMMON TACTICS USED BY RADICAL MARXISTS TO DIVIDE [03:10:06] AND CONTROL. THEY USE SEEMINGLY NOBLE BUT INFLAMMATORY ISSUES LIKE RACE AND GENDER TO DESTROY OUR UNITY. THE REAL SOLUTION TONIGHT IS THE LOVE AND FORGIVENESS. LET'S SET AN EXAMPLE FOR OUR KIDS HERE TONIGHT TO LOVE AND FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN WE DON'T AGREE, REGARDLESS OF OUR RACE OR POLITICAL BELIEF. THE REAL ANSWER, ULTIMATELY TO PREJUDICE, IS ALLOWING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST TO TRANSFORM OUR HUMAN HEARTS INSTEAD OF OUTWARD MORAL POLICING. THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON ON MY LIST ALREADY SPOKE IN OUR IN PERSON SIGN UP, AIDEN LARSEN, SO I'M GOING TO NOT CALL ON HER AGAIN. WE ARE NOW TO NON AGENDA ITEM SPEAKERS AND I WILL GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK ONE LAST TIME. EVERYBODY WHO HASN'T BEEN OR WHO WAS NOT HERE WHEN THEY WERE CALLED, BUT WE'LL GO TO SHAWNA KENNINGHAM. SHE'S GONE. NEXT IS UM, MELISSA GRAY. MELISSA GRAY. DUSTIN CLARK. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS DUSTIN CLARK HAVE FOUR CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. TONIGHT, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TWO WEEKS AGO TO FACULTY AND STAFF BY DR. AZAIEZ. I'M ADDRESSING IT TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAD ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 10 TEACHERS REACH OUT TO ME AND TELL ME HOW ALMOST DISGUSTED AND DISHEARTENED THEY WERE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING TO THEN SPIN WHAT WAS GOING TO MAKE HIM IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LOOK BETTER AND THE BOARD LOOKED BETTER. IN THE FIRST PART I WANTED TO ADDRESS IN THE LETTER WAS THAT THE PASSIONS AND FRUSTRATIONS HAD BEEN RUNNING HIGH, LARGELY DUE TO COVID RELATED ISSUES, AND THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. IT'S BEEN THIS SUPPRESSION OF PARENTS AND KEEPING PARENTS OUT OF SCHOOLS OUT OF BOARD MEETINGS. THE NEXT PART OF THE LETTER TALKED ABOUT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO WILLIAMSON. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RESULTED IN THE ARREST OF TWO INDIVIDUALS. THE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE FACTS. THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUED THE AFFIDAVIT WARRANT FOR ARREST AND GOT IT SIGNED BY A JUDGE AND THEN WORKED WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY SHERIFF TO MAKE THE ARREST. ONE OF THE REASONS I SPOKE UP WAS BECAUSE AMY WEIR ON YOUR WAY OUT TONIGHT. YOU MENTIONED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN YOU GUYS LIMITED THE CHAIRS TO 18 AND THEN THERE WERE FIVE EMPTY THAT YOU WEREN'T REFILLING WHILE USING POLICE TO BLOCK THE DOOR, I SPOKE UP BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T FILLING THE CHAIRS, YOU WERE KEEPING THE COMMUNITY OUT. THE NEXT PART OF IT I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THAT YOU SAID IN THE LETTER THAT IT WAS DUE TO SEATING AT BOARD MEETINGS WAS LIMITED DUE TO COVID CONCERNS. BUT OUT IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM, THERE WAS NO SPACING OR DISTANCING. ACROSS THE HALLWAY THAT NIGHT, THERE WAS ABOUT 100 BAND MEMBERS DR. AZAIEZ STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, NO MASK BLOWING THEIR HORNS. A WEEK LATER, WE WENT TO THE MCNEIL PACK CENTER WITH ABOUT 400 PEOPLE AND THERE WAS NO DISTANCING. SO I GUESS COVID WENT AWAY? THANK YOU. NEXT IS MELISSA. WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S MOSTLY IT'S OK. SAY, ONE MORE TIME, WELL, OK. HI, MY NAME IS MELISSA WAKELY. I'M A PARENT OF TWO GIRLS IN THE DISTRICT AND I AM ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT JUST TO SHOW MY FACE TO THE TO YOU GUYS AND PEOPLE HERE AND HAVE MY VOICE BE HEARD. I'M HEARING A LOT OF, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF DIVISIVE LANGUAGE, AND I WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, AND I KNOW I'M SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES THAT WE SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY WE CAN. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PRIVILEGE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING ALREADY TRIED TO [INAUDIBLE] US. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO, AND I'LL YIELD. I'LL GO AHEAD AND YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME AND JUST SAY THANK YOU AND I SUPPORT YOU GUYS AND KEEP ON KEEPING ON. THANKS. THANK YOU. [03:15:02] NEXT IS LINDA AVILA. HELLO, MY NAME IS LINDA AVILA, AND I CAME HERE WITH SOME GREAT NEWS AND I'M GLAD I FINALLY GET TO SHARE IT. BUT AFTER LISTENING, I HAVE TO JUST VEER OFF TOPIC. I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. SALINAS SAID. LATINX NO BUENO, NO BUENO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THE RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S OFFENSIVE AND I'M NOT MARGINALIZED. STOP CALLING ME THAT. I'M AN EDUCATED HISPANIC-AMERICAN, I SPEAK TWO LANGUAGES AND I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE, I'M NOT SUPPRESSED, BUT ANYWAY, I BETTER MOVE ON TO MY GOOD NEWS. OUR NATIONAL MOTTO. IN GOD WE TRUST. WE HAVE SECURED FUNDING FOR ROUND ROCK ISD TO PLACE ONE OF THESE IN EVERY SINGLE FACILITY. WOO WOO. HOW CAN WE DO THAT? SENATE BILL SEVEN NINE SEVEN SAYS THAT IF A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GIFTED THIS SIGN, THIS NATIONAL MOTTO, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MUST, NOT IF CAN PLEASE WILL, YOU MUST HANG IT IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE, NOT THE JANITOR'S CLOSET, NOT BACKWARDS. SENATE BILL 797 PASSED JUNE 16, 2021, AND IT WENT INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT ROUND ROCK WILL BE GETTING THEIRS. AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'RE GOING AFTER WILLIAMSON COUNTY ENTIRELY. SO GOOD NEWS. EVERYBODY CAN GO HOME. HAPPY NOW. YOU'LL BE GETTING ONE OF THESE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS TAMMY CONRAD. THANK YOU. I'M AN EDUCATOR IN THE ROUND ROCK LEARNING COMMUNITY, I'VE SPOKEN SEVERAL TIMES NOW. I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF ON EDUCATION ROUND ROCK, AND I'D LIKE TO REQUEST TWO ITEMS TO BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. ONE OF THEM IS REGARDS TO SCHOOL SAFETY. I JUST READ THAT THERE'S BEEN 24 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE AUGUST, AND OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THERE WAS ONE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THIS AT EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE AND AT OUR CAMPUSES REGULARLY. THE SECOND ITEM I'D LIKE TO BE ON THE AGENDA IS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US GATHER FEEDBACK FROM STAFF ABOUT OUR VIRTUAL PROGRAM. I KNOW THAT IT'S ENDING, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO COLLECT DATA ABOUT IT, NOT JUST QUANTITATIVE DATA, BUT QUALITATIVE. STAFF WHO WERE VIRTUAL AND THOSE WHO WEREN'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE PROCESS. THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM THOSE WHO WERE IN THE TRENCHES. [L. ACTION ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT] AND EVEN THOUGH WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO VIRTUAL AGAIN, THIS INFORMATION CAN BE USEFUL. AND IT MAY HELP WITH STAFF RETENTION TO TALK TO THOSE WHO REALLY DID SUFFER THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND OF COURSE, WE SHOULD ALSO GATHER INPUT FROM STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE APRIL ACHERON. DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY? OK, GREAT, THANKS. DR AZAIEZ. SOON AFTER YOU AND I MET AT YOUR OFFICE AT 4:30 ON JULY THE 14TH TO DISCUSS MY EDUCATIONAL CONCERNS FOR MY CHILDREN, I MET THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL WHO IS PREGNANT WITH YOUR CHILD AND WE'VE STAYED IN CLOSE TOUCH EVER SINCE. WE PARENTS HAVE SEEN THE PROOF THAT YOU DEMANDED AND THREATENED HER TO KILL YOUR UNBORN CHILD AND ULTIMATELY YOU MADE GOOD ON YOUR THREATS AND VIOLENTLY, PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HER. IN ADDITION TO HER HOUSE BEING BURGLARIZED, TAKING ONLY HER COMPUTER JOURNAL AND PHOTOS, WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOUR HIGH POWERED CELEBRITY ATTORNEY AFFORDED WITH YOUR ACCESS TO EXORBITANT AMOUNTS OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS HAS CUT A SPECIAL DEAL WITH TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PROSECUTORS TO SEAL YOUR CRIMINAL RECORDS FROM PUBLIC VIEW, AND IT'S DISGUSTING. NONE OF US PARENTS, TEACHERS OR REGULAR CITIZENS HAVE ACCESS TO LIMITLESS RESOURCES TO AFFORD THIS CALIBER OF SPECIALIZED ATTORNEY WHO CAN NEGOTIATE SPECIAL BACKROOM DEALS TO SEAL CRIMINAL RECORDS FROM THE PUBLIC. MEANWHILE, YOU GET TO BE PRIVATELY WHISKED IN AND OUT WITH PRE-ARRANGED BOND AND ALL ARREST AND CHARGE CHARGES RECORD SEALED FROM THE PUBLIC. [03:20:03] AND AS A PART OF THIS SPECIAL DEAL, YOUR TRIAL WILL BE PUSHED OUT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE. WE KNOW SO THAT YOU CAN REMAIN IN YOUR POSITION AND THE CORRUPT SCHOOL BOARD, THE FIVE CAN PROCLAIM INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, IF ANYTHING AT ALL, AND SHOOT DOWN ANYONE WHO QUESTIONS THIS VILE CRIME AS A CONSPIRACY THEORY. NOT BASED, IN FACT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FILTHY THIS IS? THIS SITUATION IS AND HOW DESPICABLE AND DECEITFUL SIR, THAT YOU ARE? DO THE REST OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY PERSON ON THIS BOARD COULD HOLD THIS MAN ACCOUNTABLE? DO REST UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY PERSON ON THIS BOARD COULD? WHO COULD HOLD THIS MAN ACCOUNTABLE AND PROTECT CHILDREN, TEACHERS, STAFF, PARENTS? THANK YOU FROM A. THANK YOU. THAT IS THE END OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO GO BACK ONE LAST TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE GIVEN EVERYBODY A CHANCE WHO WAS NOT HERE WHEN THEIR NAME WAS CALLED RICKY NELSON. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY COME IN, BUT I WAS TRYING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE SPEAKERS. RICKY NELSON. LINDA DURNAN, SHAWNA CUNNINGHAM, MELISSA GRAY. [INAUDIBLE] MCNAIRY. DAVID GRANATO. LESLIE WINTERS. AND VIRTUAL WAS KAWANA PITS. JUST MAKING SURE ONE LAST TIME DID SHE LOG IN VIRTUALLY? OK. I THINK THAT THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT IS TEN THIRTY NINE. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEMS J. ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR, OUR SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE QUICK STATEMENT TO THE BOARD BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEMS AND SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING BACK OVER AND REWATCHING OUR MEETINGS, TRYING TO LEARN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET BETTER. LAST MONTH'S MEETING WAS REALLY ROUGH, GOING UNTIL FOUR A.M. I'M A NIGHT OWL, BUT I'M NOT IN COLLEGE ANYMORE, SO THAT IS REAL ROUGH FOR ME. I HAVE HEARD AND I'M INCLUDING MYSELF IN THIS A LOT OF ICE STATEMENTS ON THIS BOARD. I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY WATCHING KNOWS ALL OF OUR BACKGROUNDS. SO IF I CAN ASK OUR TRUSTEES TO REALLY FOCUS YOUR COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN STEP AWAY FROM I STATEMENTS AND TALKING ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I WILL TRY TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THAT AS WE MOVE ALONG. BUT WE CANNOT HAVE FOUR O'CLOCK MEETINGS, FOUR A.M. MEETINGS. THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO US. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. DR. AZAIEZ ITEM J. ONE, PRESENT FELLER AND TRUSTEES COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO WE CONTINUE OUR TRADITION OF SHOWCASING A LOT OF THE GREAT WORKS THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. SO TODAY OR TONIGHT, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DEEP WOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL ONE BOOK ONE SCHOOL. IT'S JUST IT'S A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE THAT OUR STAFF, OUR TEACHERS ARE DOING AT OUR CAMPUS THERE, AND IT'S VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH OUR BOARD GOAL NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS INCREASING OBVIOUSLY OUR READING OR INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO ARE READING ON GRADE LEVEL. SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE VIDEO ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU. ONE SCHOOL, ONE BOOK IS A PROGRAM WHERE THE ENTIRE SCHOOL IS READING THE SAME BOOK, EVERY FAMILY IS GIVEN A COPY OF THE BOOK AND ALL OF THE FAMILIES, ALL OF THE STAFF MEMBERS. IT ALLOWS US TO READ ONE TO READ ONE BOOK ALTOGETHER. I LIKE IT BECAUSE LIKE YOU GET TO RELATE TO LIKE, LIKE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AT LEAST DAD LIKE TO GO TO THE CANDY STORE AS MUCH AS THAT. I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT GIVES US ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF LEARN ABOUT THE SAME THING TOGETHER. AND SO WE CAN ALL HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSIONS AT HOME ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO TALK TO OUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT. AND SO IT'S NICE TO KIND OF HAVE OUR A BOOK CLUB FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL. THE HOPE IS TO HELP BUILD READING LIVES AT HOME TO GET BOOKS IN KIDS HOMES. [M. ACTION ITEM] EVERY FAMILY IS GIVEN A COPY OF THE BOOK AND TO GET FAMILIES READING AT HOME, WE DO IT IN THE FALL TO HELP FAMILIES START THAT ROUTINE OF READING TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT. AND THEN WE DO IT AS THE WHOLE SCHOOL READING IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT READING ISN'T AN ISOLATED THING. READING IS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT BOOKS AND ABOUT GROWING YOUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NICE TO WATCH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGING READER AND THEN JUST LIKE A REALLY STRONG READER. BUT THEY, BECAUSE OF HIS BROTHER, HE SEES HIS BROTHER READING ALL THE [03:25:06] TIME, AND SO HE'S JUST STARTED TO FLIP THROUGH BOOKS. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GETTING TO WHERE THEY'RE THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT FRIENDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BRINGS THEM TOGETHER MORE AND THEY GET TO SIT AND WORK AS A TEAM TO READ IT AND AND HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. THEY LAUGH AT THE SAME PARTS AND ENJOY IT. SO IT'S IT'S NEAT THAT IT'S BRINGING THEM TOGETHER. IT'S DEFINITELY INCREASED THE EXCITEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT. I FEEL THAT IT HELPS MOTIVATE SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE RELUCTANT TO READ OR WHO READING DOESN'T COME AS A FUN PASTIME ACTIVITY. I DO THINK THAT IT DEFINITELY ENGAGES THEM MORE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THEIR PEERS AND THEIR FAMILIES READING THE BOOK WITH THEM AND NOT JUST THEM. ONE SCHOOL, ONE BOOK IS JUST A VERY SMALL PART OF THE BIGGER WORK THAT WE DO, AND WE JUST LAST WEEK LAUNCHED A PODCAST. IT'S CALLED DINOS READERS, WRITERS AND PHONICS PROFESSORS. AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER VERY SMALL PIECE THAT IS HOPEFULLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR ONE SCHOOL ONE BOOK, GIVING PARENTS AN AVENUE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WAYS THAT THEY CAN BE INVOLVED. WAYS THAT THEY CAN HELP INCREASE THEIR THEIR OWN STUDENTS' READER AND WRITERLY LIVES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, THIS IS AGAIN VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH OUR BOARD GOAL NUMBER ONE AND AND THE GOAL IS AGAIN TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF READING AND CREATE LIKE THAT FAMILY ENVIRONMENT WHERE INSTEAD OF WATCHING TVS OR IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN IS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY READING A BOOK AND DISCUSSED IN THE BOOK WITH THE ENTIRE FAMILY. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING AT DEEP WOOD ELEMENTARY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR ONE SCHOOL, ONE BOOK PROJECT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY TRUSTEES HAVE ANY COMMENTS. OK, AWESOME. NEXT IS ITEM J 2 BOARD STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS TIME TRACKER. I'M GOING TO PUNT THIS TO TRUSTEE HARRISON. OF COURSE, I'LL BE SUPER BRIEF. WE HAD 838 MINUTES TOTAL OF MEETING TIME THAT RELATED TO WHAT WE COUNT FOR ACTUAL MEETING TIME SO WE DON'T COUNT THINGS LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DON'T COUNT CLOSE SESSION. SO OUT OF THOSE EIGHT HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT MINUTES, WE SPENT THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO MINUTES ON STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS. WHAT SAVED US WAS REALLY THE STUDENT OUTCOME GOAL WORKSHOPS AND THE GOAL SETTING WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAD IN NOVEMBER, BUT THAT'S STILL ONLY 43 PERCENT. I THINK THAT'S A WE NEED THE CUMULATIVE ONE. SO THE CUMULATIVE ONE HAS ALL OF NOVEMBER. BUT IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, YOU CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL MEETING MINUTES AS WELL. SO WE ONLY MADE 43 PERCENT THIS MONTH, THE MONTH IN NOVEMBER. OUR GOAL IS 50 PERCENT, AT LEAST 50 PERCENT OF OUR TIME SPENT ON STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND MOVING FORWARD. NEXT MONTH, THAT WILL BE COMING FROM TRUSTEE WEIR. IT WILL. CONGRATULATIONS. ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ON THE DAIS? OK. NEXT IS THE AGENDA ITEM J THREE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FINDING DR. AZAIEZ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PRESIDENT. SO JUST REMEMBER LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL, THE AUDIT THAT WE SUBMITTED TO TEA ALREADY AND IT WAS APPROVED THANKS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS LAST MONTH. I KNOW THAT DR. BONE WANTED US TO KIND OF COME BACK TO IT AND SHARE SOME OF THE FUNDING, SO WE WANT TO COME BACK AND AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE FINDINGS IN MORE DETAIL. SO WITH US IS OUR CFO, MR., WHO WILL GO OVER A FEW SLIDES JUST TO SHARE AGAIN WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY AGAIN, THOSE FINDINGS? GOOD EVENING AGAIN. AT BOARD REQUEST, I WOULD BRIEF YOU ON THE ONE FINDING THAT WAS NOTED IN THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR LAST YEAR. THE FINDING WAS RELATED TO INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING AND COMPLIANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. IT READ THE SCHOOL LEADERSHIP GUIDANCE, COUNSELING AND EVALUATION SERVICES, HEALTH SERVICES AND CONTRACT INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES BETWEEN PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNCTIONS AND THE GENERAL FUND EXCEEDED THE BUDGET AMOUNTS BY THOSE RESPECTIVE NUMBERS. BASICALLY, IT SAID THAT ON THE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET WE EXCEEDED THE ACTUAL COST, EXCEEDED WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET. AND SO THIS IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE FINDING, AS YOU CAN SEE FOR SCHOOL LEADERSHIP. WE HAD 30 MILLION THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE FINAL BUDGET, BUT WE SPENT THIRTY MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE DOLLARS, SO THERE WAS A VARIANCE OR OVERSPEND OF TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR THOUSAND. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SAME TYPE COMPUTATIONS FOR GUIDANCE, COUNSELING, HEALTH SERVICES AND [03:30:06] RECAPTURE. SO WHAT DID THE AUDITOR RECOMMEND? THEY STATED THAT THE DISTRICT SHALL MONITOR ACTUAL EXPENDITURES BY FUNCTION INCURRED AND AMEND THE BUDGET EXPENSES BY FUNCTIONS AS NECESSARY BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US AS A DISTRICT? IT MEANS, IN SHORT TERMS THAT STAFF SHOULD MONITOR THE BUDGET AND THE EXPENDITURES AND ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, BRINGING BACK TO THE BOARD AMENDMENTS TO BETTER ALIGN THE BUDGET TO THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES. AND BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IN YOUR JUN MEETING THAT STAFF SHOULD BRING A PROJECTED EXPENDITURES AND A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MORE CLOSELY MATCH WHAT WE THINK THE FINAL EXPENDITURES WILL BE FOR THE YEAR. AND HOW DID THAT LOOK VISUALLY? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE AREAS, THOSE ARE THE THREE OTHER LINES THAT WERE OVERBUDGET. BUT IF YOU LOOK INTO THE WHITE AREAS RIGHT UNDERNEATH THOSE, THOSE LINES WERE UNDER BUDGET. SO ALL WE SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE FUNDS OUT OF INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP INTO SCHOOL LEADERSHIP AND MOVE FUNDS OUT SOCIAL WORK SERVICES INTO THOSE OTHER TWO LINES. AND THOSE WAS ELIMINATED, THOSE OVER BUDGETS. WE HAD THE MONEY. WE JUST DIDN'T MOVE THE BUDGET. NOW, AS FAR AS THE ONE IN GREEN, THE RECAPTURE. THAT WAS THE MATERIAL FINDING WE HAD A $16 MILLION EXPENDITURE AND NO BUDGET AT ALL. AND IN THE EYES OF GENERAL ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, THAT WAS MATERIAL, AND THAT'S WHY THE FINDING WAS DONE, THE OTHER THREE WAS NOT MATERIAL, BUT IT ENDED UP BEING A PART OF THE MATERIAL FINDING OF RECAPTURE BEING OVERBUDGET. MADAM, THAT WAS WHY, THAT WE GOT THE FINDING ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE VESSA. SO I KNOW THAT AS WE WE DISCUSSED ON BUDGET RELATED ISSUES AT THE LAST NOVEMBER MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND IT TALKED ABOUT RECAPTURE. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ESTIMATED OUR RECAPTURE THIS YEAR TO BE ABOUT $40 MILLION. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU FELT PRETTY, PRETTY SECURE IN THAT THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE'D LAND OR AT LEAST HOPEFULLY UNDER THAT. YES. SO AND THEN IF IF IT IF IT ENDS UP BEING DIFFERENT THAN WE CAN JUST DO AN AMENDMENT TOWARDS THE END OF OUR OUR FISCAL YEAR? YES, OK. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BONE. THANK YOU. FIRST, I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT EVEN WITH THE OVERSPENDING, WE WENT FROM 66 PERCENT TO 63 PERCENT ON OUR INSTRUCTIONAL EXPENDITURES AND WE WENT FROM 77 PERCENT THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO 73 PERCENT ARE OUR DIRECT STUDENT SERVICES. THAT'S MORE JUST TO MAKE THE OTHER TRUSTEES AWARE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING, IN MY OPINION, THE WRONG DIRECTION. EVEN WITH THE OVERSPENDING. AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST IS HOW, HOW OR IF THIS AFFECTS THE FIRST RATING FOR THIS YEAR. AND YOU SAID THAT THIS IS A MATERIAL FINDING. SO IF THAT AFFECTS THAT FIRST RATING, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING HERE. AND THEN ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES FOR THIS? AND THEN ALSO, I KNOW THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS IS THEIR QUESTION. THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WHAT HAVE WE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED OR WHAT ARE WE IMPLEMENTING? THE ANSWER THE THIRD QUESTION FIRST, THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN IS WHAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT WE WILL BRING TO THE BOARD BUDGET AMENDMENTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO BETTER ALIGN EXPENDITURES AND THE BUDGET. THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD THIS AFFECT THE FIRST RATING? IT MAY NOT GET US TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF POINTS, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE LIKE AN AUTOMATIC F. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FIRST QUESTION. ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A THERE'S NO PENALTY, THERE'S NO PENALTIES. SO THIS I BELIEVE BY LAW THERE IS A LAW THAT COVERS THIS THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EXPEND MONEY THAT IS NOT APPROVED BY THE BOARD. SO THERE'S NO PENALTIES FOR THAT OR THE REASON WHY THERE WAS NO PENALTIES THAT AS A DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE MONEY. AND WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED, IN MY OPINION, THAT END OF JUNE THEY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD. AND I'VE NOTICED THIS ON ON A COUPLE OF YOUR END OF YEAR REPORTS. THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN AMENDMENT BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD TO APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE TO [03:35:02] COVER THE EXPENDITURES THAT WERE OVER THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET. AND SO THIS JUNE, WE WILL BRING TO YOU IN A MINUTE IF NECESSARY, WHERE WE WILL GO AHEAD AND APPROPRIATE THE FUND BALANCE. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE, AS YOU SAW IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT, THAT IT SHOWS THAT OUR FUND BALANCE WENT DOWN. THEY SHOULD HAVE APPROPRIATED THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO THE BOARD WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT BEFORE THE COFFER. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON JUST MAKING SURE. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM J4, PURCHASING AN RFP PROCESS OVERVIEW. DR. AZAIEZ, THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN. I'M SORRY, I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? SO CAN I JUST GET CLEAR? THIS IS A 32 PAGE, 32 SLIDE PRESENTATION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. I I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT JUSTICE, BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT. WE DON'T WANT A FOUR A.M. MEETING. IS THIS URGENT FOR TONIGHT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS COULD JUST REVIEW? AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE COULD SUBMIT THEM? I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S IF IT'S IF THIS IS URGENT AND NEEDS TO BE DONE TONIGHT OR IF WE CAN MOVE ALONG WITH OUR MEETING. I AM HAPPY TO PUNT THIS RIGHT. I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU, DR. AZAIEZ. WHAT? I'M NOT SURE IF IT WENT OUT TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS. WE DID REVIEW THIS EXACT SAME PRESENTATION IN JANUARY OF 2019. I CAN GET YOU THAT MEETING DATE SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH IT. IT WAS A THREE AND A HALF HOUR MEETING ON PURCHASING AND WHILE VERY INTERESTING, NOT WHAT I WANT TO BE DOING TONIGHT. SO WHAT DO I HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE CAN PULL THIS FROM TONIGHT AND DISCUSS IT? OR I KNOW THAT WE WERE ONLY GOING TO FOCUS ON A FEW OF THE SLIDES ANYWAY. BUT DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS FIRST BEFORE WE DISCUSS THE CONTENT OF IT? DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO PULL IT FOR TONIGHT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND 20 30 MINUTES ON IT? CAN WE SPEND A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES ON IT? AND YOU GIVE US LIKE KIND OF THE MOST CRITICAL PIECES OF THE PRESENTATION THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AND MAYBE SOME ANSWERING SOME CONCERNS THAT BOARD MEMBERS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAD ABOUT THE PURCHASING PROCESS AND IT CAME UP LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF CONSENT, COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS. SO IF YOU CAN JUST LIKE GO OVER, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IS TO BE THE AREAS THAT ARE ARE MOST UNCLEAR TO MOST PEOPLE, THAT WOULD BE QUICKLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OK, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I HAVE TWO MORE LIGHTS ON. REAL QUICK. FIRST WAS TRUSTEE WEIR. I JUST WANTED TO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FOR WHY IT WAS ON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D ASKED MR. PULLMAN TO DO WAS BRING TO THE BOARD THE THINGS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BOARD COUNCIL AND THE INVESTMENT FIRMS AND SORT OF A SCHEDULE AND PROCEDURE FOR RFP AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS HE WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON. SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT CLARIFICATION OUT THERE FOR WHY IT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS ON THERE. AND I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY LATE, SO I'M HAPPY TO WAIT BECAUSE IT WAS THREE AND A HALF HOURS LAST TIME. TRUSTEE WESTON MY CONCERN ABOUT GOING TO JUST EVEN FIVE MINUTES TRUSTEE VESSA IS IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS CAN OF WORMS, WE CAN OPEN THE CAN OF WORMS. I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE TIME AND UNLESS THIS IS URGENT. I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUNT IT. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE ROAD, I'M GOING TO NEED THE TIME FOR MY QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO DEFER THE DECISION ON THAT. TO DR. AZAIEZ. HE KNOWS WHAT STAFF HAS BEEN PREPARED TO PRESENT AND I WANT TO RESPECT THEIR TIME THAT THEY'VE SPENT IN PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO I WILL DEFER THAT TO YOU. NO, THANK YOU. AND I WANT I WANT I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW IS JUST BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED TO PUT THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND SO PUT IT TOGETHER WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY. I THINK WE HAVE IT. MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT US TO COME BACK TO IT NEXT TIME, MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO SEND US QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE THAT WE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 30 MINUTES, MAYBE WE ALSO CAN MEET, YOU KNOW, IN GROUP OF TWO. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW JUST TO GO OVER THIS WITH YOU, WHATEVER IT'S CONVENIENT FOR. OUR BOARD MEMBERS WERE HERE. I KNOW DANNY. HE MET TIME AND PREPARED THE PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY ASK, BUT WE RESPECT THAT TOO. WE'D BE READY TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT US TO DO. I'M GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PULL THIS, AND I'M GOING TO ASK MS. AGUILERA IF YOU CAN SEND THE MEETING DATE OUT FROM JANUARY OF 2019. AND SINCE TRUSTEES ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO OVER THE HOLIDAY BREAK, THEY CAN WATCH THE THREE HOUR MEETING BACK THEN AND THEN. MY APOLOGIES, MR. PULLMAN. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PREPARED AND READY TO PRESENT TO US. I DO HAVE TWO OTHER LIGHTS ON BEFORE I TOTALLY LET YOU GO. LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. NEXT IS TRUSTEE HARRISON. [03:40:03] THAT WAS MY ONLY RESERVATION, KNOWING THAT MR. PULLMAN PREPARED, SO THANK YOU, I'M SORRY, WE KEPT YOU HERE TILL 11:00 WITHOUT A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEND THEM TO ME OR PERHAPS AT A WORKSHOP OR ANOTHER TIME, THAT'S THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. AND NEXT IS TRUSTEE VESSA. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SEVERAL THINGS THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OF OUR PROJECTS PULLED OFF CONSENT, AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PURCHASING PROCESS ON THAT. I'LL BE STICKING AROUND FOR THAT. OK, THANK YOU. SO SINCE IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EITHER PULL THIS OR TO KEEP IT? I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL A FUTURE DATE. SECOND, OK, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS AGENDA. I HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED THE MOTION AND Y'ALL ARE ALREADY VOTING. I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO A FUTURE AGENDA, TO A FUTURE MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. OH, ME TOO. THAT PASSES SIX-ZERO. AND THANK YOU, MR. PULLMAN, FOR BEING AVAILABLE, AND I'M SORRY THAT WE DID NOT GET TO YOUR ITEM TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT ENDS OUR SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS, WE HAVE NOTHING FOR K-1. WE ARE NOW TO ITEM L ONE THROUGH EIGHT ACTION ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENT. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? I DON'T KNOW IF MY LIGHT IS WORKING. CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION? I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. SMITH, BECAUSE WE DID ASK OR I SPECIFICALLY ASK AT THE BOARD WORKSHOP TO KIND OF BREAK OUT THE FIVE OF FOUR I KNOW MS. GOLDMAN ADDRESS THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO COME WHEN WE UPDATE AND ADD THE OTHER TWO, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE WE WERE NOT PLAYING. I CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK TO THAT. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES, ESSENTIALLY THAT WE WORK WITH, AND BOTH 504 AND DYSLEXIA IN PARTICULAR AREN'T NORMAL STUDENT GROUPS THAT MOST OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE SET UP FOR US. SO WE'RE REWRITING SCRIPTS AND PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO PULL THAT DATA. I ANTICIPATE PROBABLY THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE OR I'M SORRY, JANUARY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THE INTENTION IS AS WE'RE MOVING DOWN THIS ROAD WITH LSG GOALS, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE BRINGING BACK THE 25, 26 TARGETS AS WELL AS OTHER UPDATES. SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ROUND TO APPROVE ANOTHER UPDATE ON THIS IN JANUARY. WITH THOSE WE IF EVERYTHING WORKS AS IT SHOULD. WE WILL HAVE THE 504 AND DYSLEXIA STUDENT GROUPS BROKEN OUT. OK, THANK YOU. THEN I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT BY CONSENT. OUR SECOND. OK, BEFORE WE VOTE, I DID HAVE A LIGHT FROM TRUSTEE WESTON. SO I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM L3, BUT AMY'S MADE A MOTION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD JUST RESERVE MY COMMENTS ABOUT L-3. OR DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO PULL IT? TRUSTEE FELLER. SO. PROCEDURALLY, WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IS WE'VE HAD THIS INFORMATION FOR 10 DAYS NOW AND HAVE REQUESTED THAT ANYTHING THAT MAY NEED TO BE PULLED OFF OF CONSENT, WHICH IS ALL OF ACTION ITEMS M ONE THROUGH SEVEN TO BE PULLED FROM CONSENT TO ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION AND ALLOW FOR STAFF TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM. THIS IS ALSO IN ACCORDANCE WITH LONE STAR GOVERNANCE. SO I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A VOTE ON IT. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT UNILATERAL DECISION, DO I? YOU'RE MAKING THAT MOTION? YES, MA'AM, I CAN DO THAT. OK. SO I MOVED TO PULL ITEM L THREE FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I JUST WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY. OKAY. WELL, SECOND, THE OK, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO PULL AGENDA ITEM L3 FROM CONSENT AND MOVE IT DOWN INTO SECTION M FOR ACTION ITEMS. ALL IN FAVOR OF PULLING THIS ITEM, RAISE YOUR HAND! THAT'S TWO FOR TWO IN FAVOR OF. ALL OPPOSED. THAT'S FOUR OPPOSED. THE MOTION FAILS. THREE, TWO TO SORRY, TWO TO FOUR. I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE ITEMS L ONE THROUGH EIGHT BY CONSENT. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALLOWED START. ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW DISCUSSION FOR THAT BEFORE WE VOTE AFTER THE SECOND? BECAUSE I HAVE COMMENTS ON THAT MOTION. YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE JUST DOING WITH THE ALLOWED YOU TO BE ABLE TO TALK [03:45:01] ABOUT PULLING L THREE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT? OK, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS MOTION FOR ITEMS TO APPROVE ITEMS L1 THROUGH LATE, BUT IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF MY OPPOSITION TO L THREE FOR THE SAME REASONS. YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD A BOARD MEETING. I THINK IT WAS LAST SATURDAY ON BOARD GOALS HERE. I THINK THIS PAST SATURDAY OF SIX HOURS AND I EXPLAINED THAT I AM, I AM NOT ON BOARD WITH THESE EXTREMELY LOW STANDARDS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HISPANIC AND STUDENTS RECEIVING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES. WE HAD MULTIPLE SPEAKERS COME TO THE MICROPHONE TONIGHT, AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO WATCH THAT SIX HOUR MEETING FROM SATURDAY, I WENT INTO DETAIL MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT OUR STUDENTS DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT THESE GOALS PUT FORWARD, AND THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE RESOURCES OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD BE LASER FOCUSED ON STUDENT OUTCOMES AND IMPROVING THEM. AND THAT THAT IS THE ONE THING THAT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WE CAN'T DO AS BOARD MEMBERS, BUT THE ONE THING WE CAN DO IS SET THE GOALS AND DIRECT THE RESOURCES TO OUR PRIORITIES. SO THAT IS WHY I'LL BE A NO VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS TRUSTEE VESSA, AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US WITH UPDATES IN JANUARY. THIS ISN'T A STATIC DOCUMENT. THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT EVOLVES. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE UPDATES AND TO SEEING WHAT YOU KNOW. WHAT'S MORE, INSIGHT STAFF CAN BRING US INTO OUR GOALS AND WHERE WHERE WE SHOULD BE SETTING THE TARGETS. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND KNOWING AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THIS NEXT MONTH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT IS TRUSTEE BONE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS ALSO. I'VE ALREADY SAID BECAUSE OF ALL THREE, I WOULD BE VOTING YES FOR ALL THE OTHERS. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THAT WE COMMUNICATE, AND ONE OF THOSE WAYS THAT WE COMMUNICATE IS WITH NUMBERS. AND I JUST CANNOT VOTE FOR GOALS THAT CONTAIN NUMBERS AS LOW AS FIFTY SIX AND 55 AND WEIR. WE'RE FEELING 44 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE PEOPLE. I CAN'T COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. NEXT IS TRUSTEE HARRISON. I THINK WE CLARIFIED THAT ON L-3, THAT WILL BE REVISITED AGAIN AND MODIFIED. THEY'LL BRING IT BACK TO US BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD ON SATURDAY, CORRECT? YES. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION. OK. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS L1 THROUGH EIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FOUR-TWO. ALL RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOWN TO ACTION ITEMS M. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH M1. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A A NEW KIND OF PROCESS FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED BY CONSENT. WHILE IT DOES ONLY REQUIRE ONE TRUSTEE TO PULL AN ITEM FROM CONSENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE HAVE A MAJORITY THAT WANT TO DISCUSS IT. IF NOT ALLOWED THAT TRUSTEE TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT AS TO WHY THEY PULLED IT AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CALL THE QUESTION AND VOTE ON IT. IF NOT, IF THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTENTION, I'M OPPOSED. I'M I'M OPEN TO EVALUATE IN A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THIS, BUT WE SPEND. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING A LOT OF OUR TIME INTO CONSENT ITEMS SO THAT WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOMES MORE. SO TRUSTEE WESTON. DID YOU SAY YOU WANT A THRESHOLD OF A MAJORITY TO EVEN DISCUSS AN ITEM OR.. I WANTED TO ALLOW ANY TRUSTEE THAT PULLS IN AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA TO BE ABLE TO VOTE VOICE WHY THEY PULLED IT. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO HONOR OUR ABILITY TO EXPEDITE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. SOME OF OUR MEETING TIME AND DISCUSSION TIME. I'M OPEN TO LIMITING DISCUSSION TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, IF POSSIBLE. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LIMIT FEEDBACK, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TILL FOUR A.M.. SO THAT'S MY PROPOSAL, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. I MEAN, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I HAD OFFERED UP SUPPORT FOR LIMITING DISCUSSION SO THAT WE DON'T GO HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS. SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF. I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL MAKE OUR STATEMENTS SUCCINCTLY AND MOVE ON. AND I WILL SAY, I SEE YOUR LIGHT TRUSTEE WEIR. I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE BOARD POLICY THAT SAYS BOARD PRESIDENT CANNOT LIMIT DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT. I'M HONORING THAT POLICY AND I DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE THAT PREMISE. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MOVE THINGS ALONG A LITTLE BIT BETTER. TRUSTEE WEIR. I APPRECIATE THAT I JUST WANTED FOR CLARIFICATION. [03:50:04] M1 WAS THE ONLY ACTION ITEM. INITIALLY, ALL OTHERS WERE PULLED FROM PRESENT, SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. YES, OK. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I'M LEARNING IS I'M TAKING OVER FOR THIS MEETING, SO LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES IN THIS MEETING. IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, I'M OPEN TO ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROCESS ACTION ITEMS A LITTLE BIT FASTER. HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S GO TO ACTION ACTION ITEM HM1 APPROVAL OF THE DISTRICT OF INNOVATION PROCESS. DR AZAIEZ, THANK YOU AGAIN. SO WE HAVE RYAN SMITH WITH US AND HE WILL TAKE OVER THE CHAIR. THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO BRING US BACK. REMEMBER, LAST MONTH WE HAD THE DISTRICT OF INNOVATION HEARING WHERE WE EXPLAINED KIND OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE ARE WITH RENEWING AND REFRESHING OUR DISTRICT OF INNOVATION PLAN. SO COMING BACK TONIGHT, WE'RE AT THE PHASE OF THE PLAN WHERE I'M ESSENTIALLY GOING TO ASK FOR A RECOMMENDED MOTION. ONE OF THE THE DECISION POINTS THAT THE BOARD HAS IS YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ESSENTIALLY LIMIT THE SCOPE OF OUR NEW DISTRICT OF INNOVATION PLAN. AND AS I SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE ONLY PROVISIONS THAT WE'VE USED IN DISTRICT INNOVATION HAS BEEN THE FIRST DAY LAST DAY OF SCHOOL PROVISION, AS WELL AS THE TEACHER MENTOR PROVISIONS. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS TO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CREATING A NEW PLAN IS TO LIMIT THE SCOPE TO ONLY THOSE TWO THINGS. IF WE GET DOWN THE ROAD AT SOME POINT AND DECIDE THAT MAYBE ONE OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL PROVISIONS IN DISTRICT OF INNOVATION IS NEEDED, WE COULD ALWAYS BRING THAT BACK AND AS A GROUP REVIEW THAT AND MAYBE GO DOWN THAT ROAD. BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO HAVE THOSE TWO PROVISIONS IN PLACE GOING FORWARD. AND THE OTHER DECISION POINTS THAT THE BOARD HAS IS TO DECIDE WHICH GROUP WOULD MEET TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE PLAN BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AND MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT IS FOR US TO USE OUR DISTRICT LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF TWO THIRDS TEACHERS. IT ALSO HAS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALREADY ON IT. IT'S A IT'S A STANDING COMMITTEE THAT WE ACTUALLY JUST DID AN INTERNAL VOTE WITH TEACHERS TO ADD A NEW ROUND OF. IT'S NOT ALL OF THEM, THEY'RE NOT ALL NEW, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL NEW MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD MEET. ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE FIRST DAY LAST DAY OF SCHOOL PROVISION, AS WELL AS THE TEACHER MENTORS AND THEN IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. FOLLOWING THAT TIMELINE IS WHEN I'D BRING THAT BACK FOR A FINAL APPROVAL OR ASK FOR A VOTE FROM THIS GROUP. AND AT THAT POINT, WE COULD LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF CALENDAR THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR. SO REALLY, THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR JUST A PASSING A MOTION TO MY RECOMMENDATION OR OUR RECOMMENDATION RATHER IS TO PASS A MOTION THAT LIMITS THAT SCOPE TO THOSE TWO PROVISIONS, AS WELL AS IDENTIFIES THE DLC AS THE COMMITTEE THAT WOULD DO THAT WORK. TRUSTEE WEIR. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO FACILITATE THE CREATION OF A NEW DISTRICT OF INNOVATION PLAN WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE FIRST DAY, LAST DAY OF INSTRUCTION AND TEACHER MENTOR PROVISIONS, AND THAT THE DISTRICT LEVEL COMMITTEE SERVE AS THE COMMITTEE THAT CREATES THE NEW PLAN. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING, NONE ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ONE. NOW WE ARE AN ACTION ITEM M2, APPROVAL OF BOARD MS. MINUTES, I'M NOT SURE WHO PULLED THIS ONE BECAUSE I WASN'T PRIVY TO THAT. WHO TRUSTEE WEIR CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHO PULLED THIS ONE? I BELIEVE IT WAS TRUSTEE WESTON. OK, TRUSTEE WESTON, I BELIEVE, PULLED ALL OF THEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF I THINK I PULLED M6, YEAH, RIGHT. OK, JUST CAN LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO A CONSENSUS, ARE THERE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS M2 TO KIND OF. CAN I JUST HEAR WHY SHE WANTED TO PULL IT FIRST? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. LET'S DO THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL JUST SEE. GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE WESTON. OK. SO I'M CURIOUS WHY NOW? THE BOARD MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 22ND AND OCTOBER 21ST ARE TODAY BEING BROUGHT TO US VERSUS IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. AND ALSO ON THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING MINUTES, I SEE AN ERROR ON PAGE NINE. I'M 70 PERCENT SURE IT'S AN ERROR. THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CHANCE I COULD BE MS. MS. REMEMBERING, BUT THERE'S A MOTION, IT SAYS, AND AGAIN, IT'S ON PAGE NINE AGENDA ITEM H ONE. IT SAYS THAT I ABSTAINED FROM A VOTE. I DON'T RECALL EVER ABSTAINING FROM A VOTE. I BELIEVE I WAS A NO VOTE ON THAT. SO I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT THAT TAPE BE CHECKED. [03:55:01] OR I'M HAPPY TO JUST VOTE NO ON THIS, BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHY WERE THESE THE SEPTEMBER 22ND AND OCTOBER 21ST MINUTES ARE COMING TO US TODAY? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE HAVE BEEN ON PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS AND HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED, BUT MY MIGHT BE MEMORY IN THAT REMEMBERING THAT INCORRECTLY PRESIDENT SORRY, TRUSTEE WEIR BEEN SAYING IT FOR TWO YEARS. THAT IS CORRECT. THEY THEY WERE PULLED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. WE CAN LET BOARD COUNCIL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, IF NEED BE. AND THEN I KNOW THERE WAS A REQUEST TO. AND I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WE DID HAVE AN EMAIL EXCHANGE ABOUT THE REQUEST AND AND I SEE THAT THE LANGUAGE I ASKED FOR FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND WAS ADDED, WHICH I APPRECIATE. BUT NOW I SEE THE THE ERROR ON THE OCTOBER 22ND AND THEN I STILL NEED TO VOTE NO ON THE NOVEMBER 16TH. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THOSE TWO, THOUGH, HAVE COME TO US TODAY. MY RECOMMENDATION ON THE OCTOBER 21ST AGENDA MINUTES IS I WOULD LIKE I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS IT. AND THEN IF WE GO BACK AND REVIEW THE MINUTES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT CORRECT, THEN WE BRING BACK AMENDED MINUTES. WOULD THAT BE AMENABLE? I MEAN, IS THAT A PROCESS THAT WE CAN? I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T REMEMBER YOU SAYING YOU VOTED. YOU COULD SAY WITH THIS CHANGE IF YOU. WELL, THE THING IS, I STILL NEED TO VOTE NO ON THE NOVEMBER 16TH MINUTES ANYWAY, AND IT'S LUMPED TOGETHER. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR M2 OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION TRUSTEE HARRISON I MAYBE THE BOARD APPROVED THE MINUTES FOR THE BOARD MEETINGS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, OCTOBER 21ST, NOVEMBER 16TH AND 18TH, AND DECEMBER 1ST AND 11TH, 2021, AS REVISED. I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? OK, SEEING, NO LIGHTS. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. OH, TRUSTEE BONE JUST GOT IN UNDER THE WIRE ON THAT ONE. SO I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP AND IN BETWEEN THE LAST MEETINGS, I DIDN'T GET CLARIFICATION ON, BUT I WOULD LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO VERY CLEARLY ARTICULATE THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING AND THOSE MINUTES. BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED THAT I WAS NOT INVITED TO AN OPEN MEETING, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE PUBLIC WASN'T INVITED TO AN OPEN MEETING, AND IF SOMEBODY COULD JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHO RECONVENED WHY YOU RECONVENED BACK INTO OPEN AND STAYED IN OPEN. THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME TO GET ALONG AND BE ABLE TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. MR. PUNIC? YEAH. SO THERE WAS A TECHNICAL QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE MEDIATOR IN THAT MEDIATION COULD ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION WITH THE BOARD. AND BECAUSE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, THE BOARD RECESSED BACK INTO OPEN SESSION TO PERMIT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE MEDIATOR. AND THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES THAT YOU POST MEETINGS, ANNOUNCE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TELEGRAPH AHEAD OF TIME WHEN YOU'LL GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION, YOU HAVE TO GO INTO ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE PERMITTED. BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA ALERTED THE PUBLIC THAT THERE WOULD BE A CLOSED SESSION. BUT THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO ANNOUNCE WHEN AND IF YOU MAY BE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION THAT WAS CLEAR AND CONCISE. I THINK THAT ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FOUR-TWO. NEXT, IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER M3. APPROVAL OF THE WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL TURF REPLACEMENT PROJECT, TRUSTEE WESTON, I'LL ALLOW YOU TO COMMENT WHILE YOU PULLED THIS FIRST. THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M JUST OPENING UP THE AGENDA ITEM HERE, SO I SEE THAT FOR THE SECOND MONTH IN A ROW, THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT RECOMMENDING THE LOW BIDDER. AND I ASKED A QUESTION AND THIS IS REAL MONEY, SO THEY'RE RECOMMENDING HELUS CONSTRUCTION AT $485,000 INSTEAD OF THE LOW BIDDER, ACT GLOBAL AMERICAS INC FOR $453,000. SO THAT'S ABOUT $31000, WHICH I THINK IS EQUIVALENT TO AN INSTRUCTIONAL AIDE, STAFF MEMBERS SALARY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR LITERACY AND NUMERACY CONCERNS. AND. LAST MONTH, WE HAD ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE WE DID NOT SELECT THE LOW BIDDER AND THE PRICE DIFFERENCE, THERE WAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS. [04:00:02] SO NOW IN TWO MEETINGS WE'RE AT $260,000 OR MORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PICKING THE LOW BIDDER. AND IN LOOKING AT THE ACT GLOBAL WEBSITE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR SIX CONTINENTS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE WORLD CUP. YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER WAS A SOCCER PLAYER FOR MANY YEARS, BLEW OUT HER KNEE ON A FIELD AT LEANDER ISD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT VERY GOOD QUALITY. AND I KNOW THAT ACT GLOBAL JUST BASED ON ALL THE OTHER PLACES THAT IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR. I'M REALLY CONCERNED AND MY QUESTION IS IN MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU'RE NOT SELECTED AND YOU'RE A LOW BIDDER, YOU GET AN INTERVIEW. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION LAST WEEK TO THE ADMINISTRATION IN ROUND ROCK ISD, WHEN WE DO NOT SELECT THE LOW BIDDER, DO WE ALLOW THE LOW BIDDER TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW SO THAT ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS OR MISCONCEPTIONS COULD BE CLEARED UP? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO. AND I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM, AND I WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COMMUNITY'S ATTENTION. IN ADDITION, TONIGHT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS. WE HAD A SPEAKER THAT TOLD US THAT THIS FIRM THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED, HELUS CONSTRUCTION, THAT THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE. I HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON THAT. AND I'M ALSO WONDERING BECAUSE FOLKS ARE TELLING ME, I DON'T KNOW. BUT IS IS THERE A FORMER ROUND ROCK ISD ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, A KEY EMPLOYEE IN HELUS CONSTRUCTION? SO I'M GOING TO DEFER TO DR. AZAIEZ, WOULD THIS BE BETTER FOR MR. PULLMAN OR MR. WORCESTER TO ADDRESS? WELL BOTH OF THEM WOULD BE HELPING US ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS? AND BY THE WAY, ALL BOARD MEMBERS, YOU ALSO SAW THE THERE'S A TABULATION SHEET, RIGHT THAT WE USE AND IT'S ACTUALLY VERY COMMON FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT TO USE. SO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OVER, SIR? SURE. THANK YOU. WHEN WE ISSUE THESE TYPES OF SOLICITATIONS, THE EVALUATION CRITERIA ARE NOT IS NOT JUST CONSISTS OF THE PRICE, IT'S 50 PERCENT PRICE AND 50 PERCENT OF WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER TECHNICAL EVALUATION. WE DO THAT FOR A REASON. THE FACT OF THE MATTER HERE IS THAT WE DO HAVE THREE WELL QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS THAT RESPONDED TO THIS SOLICITATION. I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE AND IN THE OTHER INSTANCE YOU MENTIONED IS WHILE THEY'RE ALL QUALIFIED, SOME OF THE PROPOSALS ARE PRESENTED BETTER THAN THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING WHEN WE TO EVALUATE THESE SOLICITATIONS. SO SOMETIMES THEY'RE INCOMPLETE. SOMETIMES THERE'S MISSING INFORMATION IN WHICH CASE WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD GO BACK TO THAT CONTRACTOR AND HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM JUST IF SOMETHING SEEMS OUT OF LINE. IF THERE'S RED FLAGS BASED ON THE EVALUATION, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK TO THEM AND CLEAR UP ANY MISCONCEPTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE, OR JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE MISSING. THERE'S A FINE LINE THERE WHEN YOU OPEN THAT DOOR, THOUGH, TO BE FAIR TO ALL OF THE RESPONDING CONTRACTORS. WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE WITH IF YOU ALLOW A MEETING OR IF YOU GIVE THAT PERSON THAT OPPORTUNITY? DO YOU THEN NEED TO GO TO THE OTHER NON AWARDED OR NON SELECTED CONTRACTORS? SO WE WE ABSOLUTELY DO GO BACK TO THEM ALL THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT A LOT OF THE TIME, THE PROPOSALS ARE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND WHEN THERE IS MISSING INFORMATION, OR I GUESS IT CAN PROVIDE A PRETTY GENERIC EXAMPLE, I DON'T WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THESE PROPOSALS, BUT I GUESS AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN I TALK ABOUT INCOMPLETE OR A PROPOSAL PRESENTING BETTER THAN ANOTHER ONE. ONE THING WE OFTEN LOOK AT IS RESUMES OF THE PROJECT TEAM. AND LET'S SAY WE WERE BUILDING A FIELD HOUSE, AN ATHLETIC FIELD HOUSE. WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR IS RELEVANT EXPERIENCE, JOB HISTORY, PERHAPS EVEN EDUCATION ON, SAY, THE PROJECT SUPERINTENDENT'S RESUME THAT IS RELEVANT TO THAT PROJECT. SO IF, SAY, ONE CONTRACTOR SUBMITS A PROPOSAL THAT HAS RESUMES THAT INDICATE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE BUILDING HOSPITALS OR MEDICAL FACILITIES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ATHLETIC FACILITIES, THEY MAY LOSE POINTS THERE COMPARED TO AS HOW THEY STACK UP TO THE OTHER CONTRACTORS PROPOSALS. SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE LOW BIDDER CAN NOT ACHIEVE ALL OF THOSE TECHNICAL POINTS TO OVERCOME THE POINT VARIANCE. [04:05:04] BUT WE DID NOT INTERVIEW THE LOW BIDDER CORRECT? IN THIS INSTANCE NO. AND NEXT IS TRUSTEE HARRISON. I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS LAST TIME ABOUT THE PROCESS AND ABOUT OTHER SMALL BUSINESS PERKS, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS, ET CETERA. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE COMMITTED TO. BUT WHEN I SEE A VARIANCE OF LIKE 15 POINTS ON THE TECHNICAL ASPECT, KNOWING THAT I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL ASPECT OF BUILDING SOMETHING, I'M HESITANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT FROM MY SPOT AS A TRUSTEE. SO WHILE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT COMPONENTS OF THE PROCESS AND WONDER IF WE COULD DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, I DON'T FEEL IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO BE THE JUDGE OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS. AND AS SUCH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS TO A VOTE. YOU HAVE SOMETHING I JUST SUPER QUICK, ACTUALLY, I. OH YEAH, YOU ARE ONE NEXT. I'M SORRY, I HAVE THREE OTHER LIGHTS THAT ARE ON, BUT I WILL RESPECT IF SHE IS GOING TO MAKE A CALL. THE QUESTION DOES WELL, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. BUT YEAH, TRUSTEE VESSA REALLY HAS SOMETHING. SO OK, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IT SAYS COMPETITIVE, SEALED BID. DO YOU KNOW WHO WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING THE CRITERIA? DO YOU KNOW WHO? WHAT COMPANY IS THE ONE OFFERING IT UP? YES, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE DOES KNOW WHO THE PROPOSALS CAME FROM WHEN THEY'RE EVALUATING THEM. SO AND THEY KNOW LIKE IT SAYS THEIR NAME ON THE TOP. YES, IT'S NOT A BLIND EVALUATION. OK. AND TWO, CAN YOU SAY, YEAH, YOU DIDN'T. YOU DIDN'T GET THE HIGHEST POINT TOTAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS OTHER PERSON OR YOU GOT THE HIGHEST POINT, TOTAL. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS OTHER PERSON. IS THAT LEGAL? NO, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BUY THE HIGHEST RANKED AFTER FOLLOWING THE EVALUATION PROCESS. WE CAN'T SIMPLY AWARD SOMEONE WHO'S RANKED SECOND OR THIRD. IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO BASICALLY THROW THE WHOLE BID OUT AND REISSUE IT IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. IF WE FELT IT WASN'T IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO AWARD THE HIGHEST RANKED, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU GAVE IT TO THEM? WELL, WHAT IF WE DIDN'T? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T? IF YOU VIOLATED THAT, AWARDING IT TO THE HIGHEST NUMBER POINTS GETTER, I WOULD THINK OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WOULD SUFFER SOME CREDIBILITY, SOME QUESTIONS AS TO WHY WE WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD DEFINITELY CAUSE SOME UPROAR AMONG OUR VENDOR COMMUNITY BY BASICALLY GOING AGAINST OUR OWN PROCESS. IS IT A LEGAL PROCESS? COULD WE GET SUED? YES, I BELIEVE WE COULD. IT'S NEVER HAPPENED THAT WAY BEFORE. I DON'T HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT MR. COVINGTON'S NODDING YES. YES, AND SO IS IT WAS MR. WOOLRIDGE. THE PURCHASING PROCESS IS GOVERNED BY STATUTES AND WE WOULD BE VIOLATING THOSE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT. AND NEXT, I WILL GO TO TRUSTEE BONE. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD KIND OF A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE THERE WAS A SAFETY CONCERN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THIS COMPANY, WHICH I DON'T. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SAFETY CONCERN? NOT PERSONALLY. AND WITH THIS, MY SECOND QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, WOULD THIS BE KNOWN? DOES OUR PROCESS? WOULD THAT DRAW OUT IF THIS COMPANY HAD A SAFETY CONCERN? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE DO GATHER THAT INFORMATION FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE ASK FOR CLAIMS SUITS AGAINST THOSE COMPANIES INJURY REPORTS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT GO INTO THE TECHNICAL SCORING? I DON'T BELIEVE WE GENERALLY ASSIGN POINTS TO THAT. I THINK IT'S MORE OF A PASS FAIL INDICATOR. BUT I, TERRY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT SOME MORE, DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT? THE QUESTION CAN BE WHAT'S YOUR SAFETY SCORE? THE TYPICALLY, AS THE SPEAKER MENTIONED WITH WITH A A COMMENT ABOUT WHATEVER AILMENT THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO SUBSTANTIATE IN THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION, SIMPLY BECAUSE HE STATED SOME DATES THAT PRECEDED THE YEARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE USED THIS, THIS COMPANY AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS COMPANY HAS SUCCESSFULLY WON OTHER PROJECTS IN A COMPETITIVE, SEALED BID BEFORE. AND SO WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS WHATSOEVER. AND SO I TAKE I TAKE THE SPEAKER'S COMMENTS AS SOMETHING TO OBVIOUSLY BE COGNIZANT OF, BUT I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO JUDGE BASED UPON AN ACCUSATION. THANK YOU. AND SO THEN MY OTHER THING IS JUST A QUICK STATEMENT BECAUSE I JUST WENT IN TO THESE PEOPLE'S WEBSITES AND KIND OF WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEIR WEBSITES HAD OUT [04:10:03] THERE. AND IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE AT GLOBAL HAD AN NFL GAME AND TRAINING FIELDS, AND THEN THE ONE THAT WAS CHOSEN HAD NO NFL FIELDS. SO IT DOES KIND OF MAKE ME QUESTION IF MAYBE MAYBE OUR TECHNICAL SCORING, IF MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED. OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST A QUICK TEST. BUT THEN AGAIN, A TRUSTEE HARRISON BROUGHT IT UP. YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THIS TOO. SO MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, THANK YOU. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME DETAILS WE CANNOT DISCLOSE AND OPEN, AND I'M LOOKING AT DOUG. DOUG, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE ARE SOME STUFF BECAUSE IT'S THE PROCESS WE CANNOT DISCUSS, LIKE SOME OF OUR FUNDING RELATED TO THESE PARTICULAR ORGANIZATIONS, RIGHT? IN OPEN, YEAH, YOU HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS IN OPEN SESSION, YES. ALMOST 11:30, BUT I DO WHEN WHEN WE COME BACK AROUND AND DO THIS J4 AGAIN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MONTHS AGO, A YEAR AGO WHENEVER IT WAS SAFETY OF STUDENTS AND SAFETY WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP AS. AND I THINK IT WAS THE PREVIOUS BOARD ACTUALLY THAT BROUGHT UP TO SORT OF MAYBE TRY TO ADD THAT IN AS A RECOMMENDATION INTO THE TECHNICAL PART OF IT. BECAUSE I MEAN, AND IT MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN THESE SAME TWO COMPANIES I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE THE ISSUE OF WHICH TYPE OF TURF WAS SAFEST FOR THE STUDENTS WHEN THEY WERE ON IT. AND AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THAT POINT AND I AND THIS THIS ONE IS ALREADY DONE AND. BUT I THINK SAFETY IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THIS WON'T BE ONE OF THE THINGS THIS BOARD COULD ALL AGREE ON THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND THE SAFETY OF FOR THE WORKERS THAT ARE DOING THIS IS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE MORE THAT WE CAN GO LOCAL AND SMALL, BETTER. BUT ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, THE SAFETY ISSUE IS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE. AND I THINK IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK OVER THE WEEKEND AND GO BACK AND WATCH THAT THREE AND A HALF HOURS, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD WAS HAD THESE SAME CONCERNS. ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHILE I'M SITTING IN THIS ROLE IS MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM A TRUSTEE HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE BOARD. SO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM TRUSTEE WEIR THAT WE ADD STUDENT SAFETY TO TECHNICAL POINT EVALUATIONS IN FUTURE. IS THAT IS THAT A GOOD SUMMARY? OK. DO I HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD THAT THEY ARE ALL BEHIND THAT MR. PUNIC? HOW CAN I GET CONSENSUS? DO I ACTUALLY NEED A A MOTION? I THINK IF THERE IS NO REAL OBJECTION FROM ANYONE, I THINK YOUR STAFF IS HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A BOARD ARE GIVING REALLY CLEAR DIRECTION THAT IT IS ADVICE FROM THE BOARD. NOTHING AGAINST YOU TRUSTEE WEIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE VERY CLEAR ON THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING THE BOARD. SO DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ADDING SAFETY TO TECHNICAL POINT EVALUATIONS IN THE FUTURE? OK, GREAT. THE LAST LIGHT THAT I OH SORRY, I HAVE TRUSTEE WESTON. I HAVE ONE MORE AFTER THAT. THANK YOU. SO I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IS MONEY. THIS IS $300000 ALMOST IN TWO MONTHS, ACCORDING TO MY MATH, THAT'S FIVE TEACHERS THAT IN TWO MONTHS WE WILL NOT HIRE FIVE TEACHERS FOR AN ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE NOT PICKING THE LOW BIDDER. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM. IN ADDITION, THE LOW BIDDER FROM LAST MONTH WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESS OWNER, MINORITY BUSINESS OWNER. WE DID NOT SELECT HIM. THIS ACT GLOBAL, ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE, THIS IS A MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS THAT WAS THE LOW BIDDER THAT WE DID NOT SELECT, AND I STILL DID NOT GET AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS THE FORMER ROUND ROCK ISD ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, A KEY EMPLOYEE AT HELUS, WHO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE SELECT TONIGHT. NEXT IS TRUSTEE BONE OH, GO AHEAD, MR. WORCESTER. THANK YOU. I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION, VERY FRANKLY, IS THAT I DO NOT KNOW SIMPLY BECAUSE IF THAT EMPLOYEE WAS HERE, THAT VERY MUCH PRECEDES MY EXPERIENCE IN THIS DISTRICT AND PROBABLY PRECEDES EXPERIENCES FOR MOST ALL OF US. AND SO THAT THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY IS ATTACHED TO MY INTEREST AND OR MY INTENT. I JUST WANT TO ADD, I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO ADD LIKE WE ALTHOUGH I HEAR YOU TRUSTEE WESTON. I MEAN, WE ARE WE'RE HERE TO TO BE A GREAT STEWARD OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY. BUT IT'S LIKE WITH A LOT OF THINGS WE DO OUR OWN FINANCIAL, WE DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS GO WITH THE LOWEST, CHEAPEST STUFF, RIGHT? [04:15:02] I MEAN, WE HAVE TO ALSO, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TECHNICAL AND DURABILITY, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. SO THERE IS A LOT OF FACTORS. THE PRICING IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THESE BIDS, THEY LOOK AT. SO AGAIN, WE DEFINITELY CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY FELL SHORT? I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, ARE YOU SAYING THAT AT GLOBAL HAS FALLEN SHORT IN TECHNICAL ABILITIES PER YOUR STANDARDS? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD? WELL, THE SHEET THAT WE SHARE WITH YOU THERE AND IT'S PUBLIC. I MEAN, YOU YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR SCORE IS LOWER WHEN YOU WHEN YOU AVERAGE THOSE SCORES TOGETHER, THE TOTAL. THEY CAME SHORT. SO THEY WERE IN THE HIGHEST WITH THE HIGHEST SCORE. THEY WERE THE SECOND HIGHEST. THE HIGHEST ONE IS THE ONE WHO GOT THE BID. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. SO I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE MY NEXT, YEP, YOUR NEXT. BUT I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO TRY NOT TO INTERRUPT PEOPLE. SO YOU ARE NEXT, THOUGH, AND THEN TRUSTEE HARRISON. SO IT'S ALONG THESE LINES. AND MY QUESTION IS THIS BECAUSE WE ARE THIS IS ABOUT THIS IS OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS IT'S SAFETY. AND SO I KIND OF FEEL WEIRD THAT WE JUST ARE UP HERE AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE HAVE TO SELECT THIS COMPANY. CAN WE NOT SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THIS COMPANY TONIGHT. WE WANT THEM TO GO BACK AND ADD SAFETY INTO THIS AND THEN BRING THIS BACK BECAUSE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO SAFETY. AND I'M KIND OF I THINK IF SOMEBODY RE-WATCHED THIS, THEY WOULD HEAR US SAY, WELL, SAFETY WASN'T TAKEN INTO THIS CONSIDERATION. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT SAFETY, THESE ARE OUR ATHLETES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US ON THIS BOARD HAVE HAD ATHLETES OF STUDENTS. SO CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE TELL THEM TO TAKE IT BACK, ADD A SAFETY COMPONENT AND LET US KNOW WHO WOULD COME OUT ON TOP OF THEM TO DO A WHOLE NEW PROCUREMENT BECAUSE THE CRITERIA WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED? AND SO FOLKS WHO SUBMITTED PROPOSALS SUBMITTED ACCORDING TO ESTABLISHED CRITERIA, SO YOU CANNOT MODIFY THE CRITERIA MIDSTREAM, OK, YOU'D HAVE TO DO A WHOLE NEW PROCUREMENT. AND HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? A VERY EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WE'D HAVE TO REPOST. WELL, CAN WE LET MR. PULLMAN, I'D SAY, ON AVERAGE ABOUT 60 90 DAYS. 60 TO 90 DAYS, THAT'S WHAT THIS TOOK? YES. SO IT'S REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAS NO SAFETY COMPONENT, OBVIOUSLY. BUT IT ISN'T HERE. SO TRUSTEE HARRISON. SO TO BE FAIR, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT THERE'S NO SAFETY COMPONENT. YOU ALL DO CHECK FOR SAFETY, BUT WHAT I HEARD IS THAT WE ARE WANTING TO ADD IT INTO THE SCORING. ONE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, AUSTIN ISD HAS A HUB PROGRAM, HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESS, AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE. BUT SEEING THAT IT IS 11:30 FIVE AT NIGHT. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED HELUS CONSTRUCTION AS THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL TURF REPLACEMENT PROJECT IN THE USE OF $533,000 THREE HUNDRED NINETY DOLLARS OF BOND 20 18 FUNDS AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I SEE NO LIGHTS ON. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOUR-TWO. WE ARE NOW ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOR TRUSTEE WESTON PULLED THIS ONE APPROVAL TO CAST VOTE FOR ELECTION OF TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. TRUSTEE WESTON. I JUST WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS SEPARATELY. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. I'M SORRY, I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I CAN MOVE TO APPROVE THAT, TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTOR NOMINEE. THE MOTION ON THE I'LL MAKE A MOTION, I CAN DO IT, IT'S OK, GO AHEAD. I MOVED AT THE BOARD CAST ITS VOTE FOR KELLEN BRADFORD AS A ROUND ROCK ISD NOMINEE FOR THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS ON. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOUR-TWO. WE ARE DOWN TO ACTION ITEM M5, ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF PARENTS AND STUDENTS EDUCATION, TRUSTEE WESTON. SO I'M REALLY TROUBLED BY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WITH ITEM M5, BECAUSE BACK IN FEBRUARY, NO, I'M SORRY BACK IN APRIL, I MADE AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FOR A PROCLAMATION TO ACKNOWLEDGE NOVEMBER AS [04:20:03] PARENTS RIGHTS AND EDUCATION MONTH. I WAS GIVING SEVEN MONTHS OF NOTICE AND I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. AND I REQUESTED THAT IT SIMPLY GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR. NOT EVEN TAKING UP OUR TIME. IT WAS NOT PLACED ON THE AGENDA, AS I TOLD IT, AS I WAS ASSURED IT WOULD BE FOR NOVEMBER AND THEN NOW THAT IT'S ON THE DECEMBER AGENDA, IT IS NOT THE RESOLUTION OR THE PROCLAMATION THAT I REQUESTED. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED. I SENT AN EMAIL TO FORMER PRESIDENT WEIR LAST WEEK SAID PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THIS. THIS IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR. THIS IS WHAT I ASKED FOR. A PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNITION OF THE VITAL IMPORTANCE FOR EDUCATION EXCELLENCE AND MEANINGFUL COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FAMILIES. WE RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER AS PARENTS RIGHTS AND EDUCATION MONTH, WHEREAS WE ACKNOWLEDGE PARENTS ARE A CHILD'S FIRST AND FOREMOST EDUCATOR AND HAVE THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR EDUCATION, CARE AND TRAINING OF THEIR CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS EDUCATION IS COMPRISED OF A RANGE OF ACTIVITIES BY WHICH FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES TEACH KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS, INCLUDING ETHICAL AND BEHAVIORAL NORMS AND TRADITIONS. AND WHEREAS FAIRNESS AND EQUITY MUST BE AFFORDED TO ALL STUDENTS AND FAMILIES IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED COOPERATION AND SUPPORT OF ALL PARENTS, AND WHEREAS THE PARENT CHILD RELATIONSHIP SHALL BE HONORED AND SUPPORTED BY TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, ADMINISTRATORS AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS. THEREFORE, WE DECLARE NOVEMBER AS PARENTS RIGHTS IN EDUCATION MONTH, AFFIRMING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF PARENTS TO DIRECT THE EDUCATION AND UPBRINGING OF THEIR CHILDREN. THAT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT I PUT FORWARD FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, AND MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE IT. TRUSTEE HARRISON. I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHERE THAT PROCLAMATION CAME FROM. IT CAME FROM A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO IS INVOLVED IN A PARENT'S RIGHTS ORGANIZATION. BEFORE WE APPROVE SOMETHING, I'D WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT ORGANIZATION IS. THIS IS WHY I REQUESTED THIS AGENDA ITEM IN APRIL. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED AT THAT TIME. I DON'T HAVE IT AT MY FINGERTIPS. ALL I DID TODAY WAS PRINT OUT THE PROCLAMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND ACTING SUPERINTENDENT IN APRIL. AND I WELL. TRUSTEE BONE. WOULD WE LIKE TO LET TRUSTEE WEIR RESPOND? FIRST, TRUSTEE WEIR, THANK YOU, SORRY, I GOT TO GET IN THE HABIT. ACTUALLY, I GET IN THE HABIT OF ACTUALLY TALKING. SO THE ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS DR. PRESLEY AS OUR ACTING OR INTERIM ACTING. I'M NOT SURE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOUR TITLE WAS WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FIRST MADE, WHEN IT CAME UP LATER, THE ADMINISTRATION DID LOOK INTO THE GROUP THAT IS RECOMMENDING THE PROCLAMATION. AND ACTUALLY, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH BOARD OFFICERS AT SOME POINT AND BUT THE DISTRICT'S RESOLUTION WAS WRITTEN NOT BY ME, BUT TO BE JUST MORE INCLUSIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE PARENTS RIGHTS AND EDUCATION HAS A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE ARM WITH STATED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, WHICH MAY NOT REFLECT THE OPINIONS AND PRIORITIES OF ALL ROUND ROCK ISD STAKEHOLDERS. AND THEY ALSO ENDORSED SOME FINANCIALLY SUPPORT SELECT SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES. I DON'T BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE THAT HERE IN TEXAS, BUT ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE, SO IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND AS A BEST PRACTICE FOR ROUND ROCK ISD TO CREATE AN INDEPENDENT RESOLUTION RATHER THAN A LINE WITH THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE MAY AGREE RIGHT NOW, BUT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN LATER, IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT. JUST AS BACKGROUND. TRUSTEE BONE WAS NEXT. SURE, I JUST WANTED TO TO SAY THAT I ALSO HAD REQUESTED THIS TRUSTEE WESTON, JUST KIND OF A TECHNICAL NOTE. WE WEREN'T EVER GIVEN A REASON BEFOREHAND OR TOLD, NO, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO COME UP. I ACTUALLY DIDN'T INVESTIGATE WHEN I READ IT BECAUSE I READ LOTS OF EMAIL FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THERE'S TIMES THAT I READ STUFF AND I TRY NOT TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHO SENT IT. SO I'M NOT BIASED BY IT, AND I ACTUALLY JUST READ THIS AND ACTUALLY TRUSTEE WESTON JUST READ IT. AND WHILE YOU KNOW THEIR WORDS ARE JUST WORDS, I DON'T FIND THAT THEY'RE ATTACHED TO IT. SO THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING TAKE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS JUST [04:25:05] BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED BY THEM. I MEAN, WE COULD SAY THAT BY ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, MAYBE SO ANYWAYS, I ALSO ASKED FOR IT JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, TRUSTEE FELLER THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN RESOLVE HERE IS THAT WHEN WE ASKED FOR THINGS, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD, LIKE WE ASKED FOR THAT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF KEPT INTO THE THE LOOP AS TO WHY. SO I DEFINITELY HEAR YOU AND WANT TO REACH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT ON THIS, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. I KNOW TRUSTEE WESTON, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON NEXT. ONE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE JUST FOR YOU TO ADDRESS WHILE YOU'RE WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO SAY IS I. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE PREVIOUS SORRY, I'VE BEEN BOARD PRESIDENT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND TWO HOURS NOW, SO I'M NOT. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE PREVIOUS PROCLAMATION. IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORDSMITH? I WILL TELL YOU, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON A PROCLAMATION THAT YOU JUST READ OUT LOUD AND I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY READ IN FRONT OF ME. SO I'D LIKE TO HONOR BOTH OF YOUR REQUESTS OF THIS PROCLAMATION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM AND HOW WE CAN REACH SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS. SO I WILL YIELD TO YOU AND LET YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE I CAN DO THAN OFFER SEVEN MONTHS OF NOTICE ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON. CAN I? CAN I? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY NEW REGIME. LET'S TRY NOT TO BRING UP OLD BAD BLOOD OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE UPSET ABOUT. I TOTALLY GET IT. BUT LET'S LET'S TRY TO FOCUS ON WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AGENDA IF POSSIBLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE FRUSTRATED AND ALL OF THAT I REALLY DO. BUT LET'S JUST SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA ITEM ON HERE RIGHT NOW. AND REALLY, THIS SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I SAID TO YOU EARLIER ABOUT. I JUST WANT TO BE TREATED AS AN EQUAL. WE SHOULD ALL BE TREATED AS EQUALS AND TO FIND OUT HERE IN THIS MEETING FIVE MINUTES AGO THAT THERE WAS A BOARD OFFICER MEETING THAT WAS CONDUCTED TO DISCUSS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I MADE, AND I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS BOARD OFFICER MEETING WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, WHO DIRECTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE CHANGES? WHY IS THE ADMINISTRATION DOING ANY WORK TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR CONDUCTING RESEARCH WITHOUT THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED THE AGENDA ITEM INVOLVED? I WOULD THINK IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST THAT I MAKE THAT IT BE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND THAT I BE TREATED AS A PARTNER AND THAT WE HAVE. WE COLLABORATE AND WE SEEK CLARITY AND WE GET WHATEVER IT IS WE NEED. I WE SHOULD NOT HAVE SURPRISES OUT HERE. AND THE REASON WHAT'S ON THIS AGENDA THAT'S APPARENTLY WRITTEN BY BOARD OFFICERS OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED, BUT I'M SURPRISED THAT ANYTHING HAS TRANSPIRED. BUT MY PROBLEM WITH WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS THAT IT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR. IT'S TALKING ABOUT COVID. I'LL TELL YOU, A FRIEND OF MINE FROM HIGH SCHOOL DIED FROM COVID ON MONDAY OF THIS WEEK. OK, SO. COVID. IT HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF HARM, AND IT DESERVES ITS OWN CONVERSATION DISCUSSION, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS WAS ABOUT A PROCLAMATION WITH SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT I ASKED FOR. SO GOING FORWARD? I WOULD ASK AGAIN IF WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I DON'T NEED TO SPEND ANY TIME TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE BY THIS BOARD AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING. THAT IS MY REQUEST. I DO SHOW THAT TRUSTEE VESSA IS NEXT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT JUST REGARDING THE BOARD OFFICER. I PARTICIPATED IN ONE MEETING THIS PAST MONDAY ON THE AGENDA SETTING MEETING FOR THIS MEETING. THE DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP WITH THIS, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT TRUSTEE WESTON HAD REQUESTED, BUT THERE WAS ALREADY MORE THAN THREE OR THREE TRUSTEES THAT HAD TALKED ABOUT IT I GUESS YOU AND AND TRUSTEE BONE HAD SENT IT TO TRUSTEE WEIR, SO THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION AT THE AGENDA SETTING MEETING ABOUT ADJUSTING THE LANGUAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE WAS THE ONLY DISCUSSION ON IT WAS THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT TRUSTEE WESTON HAS HAD REQUESTED AND THEN IT HAS BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S THE EXTENT OF IT IS, ACCORDING TO ME. I CAN ONLY SAY WHAT I AM KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT REWRITE ANY OF YOUR LANGUAGE AND I WAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD, YOU CAN'T ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY INCLUDING THREE TRUSTEES, THREE TRUSTEES. WOULD YOU AGREE THAT IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE SPENDING THEIR TIME ON CHANGING A DOCUMENT THAT I'VE REQUESTED TO GO ON THE AGENDA, THAT I BE CONSULTED AND I'D BE TREATED AS A PARTNER IN THAT? WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YES, I WOULD AGREE. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT BOTH YOU AND TRUSTEE VESSA WERE TREATED THE SAME WAY WITH REGARDS [04:30:01] TO YOUR PROCLAMATION OR YOUR RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. APPARENTLY, TRUSTEE VESSA ALSO HAD REQUESTED SOME CHANGES, AND THE DISCUSSION WAS BRING THESE ITEMS TO THE DAIS. LET'S DISCUSS THEM AND NOT HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION WORDSMITH THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT THERE MORE THAN WHAT WAS DRAFTED. SO I WILL SAY WHAT I HAVE BEEN PRIVY TO. BOTH OF YOUR REQUESTS WERE HANDLED IN THE EXACT SAME MANNER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TRUSTEE VESSA IS HAPPY WITH WHAT ENDED UP ON M6. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT I WILL SAY, ACCORDING TO WHAT I KNOW, BOTH OF YOU WERE HANDLED THE SAME WAY YOU'RE BOTH OF YOUR REQUESTS WERE HANDLED THE SAME WAY. OK, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BY THE WAY. SO IT WAS, CAN WE CLARIFY IF THERE WAS A LACK OF A SECOND OR WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT MOTION IS? CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR MOTION AGAIN? YES. AFTER I READ THIS PROCLAMATION, I SAID I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THIS PROCLAMATION AS I READ IT. I'LL SECOND THAT, OK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION TRUSTEE VESSA, CAN I MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE? BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THIS LIKE YOU JUST READ IT. BUT WHEN I OFFERED UP MY CHANGES, I PRINTED IT OUT AND I GAVE EVERYBODY A COPY SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT I WANTED TO CHANGE. SO IF THAT HAD HAPPENED, I THINK I COULD HAVE CONSIDERED IT, BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IT BEFORE. SO CAN I MOVE TO APPROVE WHAT STAFF PREPARED? YOU CAN MAKE A REPLACEMENT. I MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION TO APPROVE. ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY. AMEND THE MOTION. YOU MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO IF YOU MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION SECONDED, IT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE VOTED ON. I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM M FIVE. AND AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. HEARING NO SECOND, YOUR SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILS, OK? OK. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO OUR FIRST MOTION, WHICH IS FROM TRUSTEE WESTON TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION THAT SHE READ. AND I WOULD ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I WANT TO HONOR YOUR REQUEST, BUT I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME VOTING FOR SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN PHYSICALLY READ IN FRONT OF ME, AND I JUST HEARD YOU LISTEN TO IT. SO I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AND READ IT AHEAD OF TIME. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO AND I'M SORRY IT'S GOING INTO CHRISTMAS BREAK, BUT TO PUSH THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY AND EVALUATE THAT LANGUAGE AND HAVE IT DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF THE TRUSTEES. SO MY MOTION IS TO MOVE ACTION ITEM FIVE TO THE NEXT TWO TO A FUTURE MEET. I'M JUST GOING PUT FUTURE MEETING BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE ON THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW. I'M NEW TO THIS JOB, SO GO AHEAD. OH WAIT, HOLD ON. I HAVE A MOTION. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE A SECOND ON IT. OK, HAVE A SECOND TRUSTEE WESTON. CAN WE DO IT ON THE CONDITION THAT IT HAPPENS IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND JUST GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE? ARE YOU MAKING A REPLACEMENT MOTION? WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO ADD A CAVEAT OR A QUALIFIER TO YOURS. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR SCHEDULE. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK. THAT'S ALL THE MOTIONS, JUST SO YOU CAN KEEP TRACK. IT'S NOT THE ONES I'VE WRITTEN DOWN, BUT THAT'S THE ORDER THEY GO IN IF PEOPLE MAKE THEM. OK, HOW ABOUT THIS? I'LL MAKE IT. I'LL MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION. OK, I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION. OK, SO I MOVE THAT WE MOVE MY PROCLAMATION THAT I. ITEM M5. THANK YOU. IT'S GETTING LATE TO A MEETING IN JANUARY THAT AT YOUR CHOOSING. I DON'T EVEN NEED IT TO BE FOR DISCUSSION OR YEAH, FOR DISCUSSION. I'M HAPPY FOR IT TO BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY. I'LL SECOND IT. OK, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM M5 TO A MEETING IN JANUARY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION AND SECOND TRUSTEE HARRISON, SORRY, I SEE YOUR LIGHT IS ON. I GUESS I CAN JUST DEAL WITH IT IN JANUARY BECAUSE NOW THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THIS ORGANIZATION, I'M HESITANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING FROM THIS ORGANIZATION. BUT I WANT TO HEAR THE SPIRIT OF THE PARENT RESOLUTION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING OUR NAMES TO THIS ORGANIZATION AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THEY SUPPORT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. [04:35:04] ALL OPPOSED. ABSTAINING MOTION PASSES FIVE-ZERO-ONE, I HOPE THAT THAT IS SATISFACTORY TO YOU, TRUSTEE WESTON THANK YOU. SORRY. AGENDA ITEM M6, ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INCITE HATRED, TRUSTEE VESSA. THANK YOU. SO I HAD ASKED FOR THIS BACK IN APRIL WHEN THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ON TRUSTEE ZHAO'S FACEBOOK PAGE THAT ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A SPY FOR THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, AND THEY WERE INCITING VIOLENCE TOWARDS HIM AND ALL LIKE HIM. AND I SAID, THIS IS ASIAN HATE AND I MUST CONDEMN IT. ALL OF US TRUSTEES RECEIVE HATEFUL EMAILS AND COMMENTS, BUT THIS IS BEYOND THAT. I ASK THAT WE AS A BOARD SPEAK VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THIS IN THE STRONGEST WAY. I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE A RESOLUTION WE ADDRESS AS AN AGENDA ITEM. SO IT TOOK UNTIL NOW, BUT I'M GLAD THAT IT HAS GOTTEN ON THE AGENDA. YES, I WAS TREATED THE SAME WAY. I WASN'T ALLOWED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. SO WHAT I DID IS I TOOK ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVING ME. I MEAN, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS THAT I ASKED FOR AND [INAUDIBLE] LIKE, JUST DO IT ON THE DAIS. AND SO THEN I PUT IT AS I COMMON FOR ME TO DO. I PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK. THERE'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK TONIGHT, AND SO I HAVE DRAFTED A DOCUMENT THAT I PUT IN FRONT OF ALL THE TRUSTEES. I DO HAVE A FEW EXTRA COPIES. IS IT POSSIBLE IF ANYBODY WANTS ONE? IS THAT NOT POSSIBLE? CAN I DO THAT? IT'S YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE IT IF YOU WISH. OK. ANYBODY? ANYWAY, SO I WENT THROUGH AND I REALLY TRIED TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE SAID AND BE REALLY A LOT MORE SPECIFIC. FOR EXAMPLE, ON SOCIAL JUSTICE, I KNOW THAT THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED MANY WAYS. SO I REPLACED IT WITH FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT FOR ALL. IN THE NEXT, WHEREAS I ADDED ROUND ROCK ISD AFTER UNITED STATES AND I CHANGED AFTER GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO THREATEN OUR DEMOCRACY BY SEEKING TO INCITE HATRED AND VIOLENCE. BECAUSE REALLY, WHAT I WANTED THIS RESOLUTION TO BE ABOUT WAS WHAT HAPPENED TO TRUSTEE XIAO AND CONDEMNING THAT AND CONDEMNING THINGS LIKE THAT. WHERE PEOPLE ARE INCITING HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS INDIVIDUALS OR GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO ON MOST OF THE STUFF I WE DID IT TO SAY, LIKE FOR THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT, WHEREAS IT SAYS THE ROUND ROCK ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES REJECTS AND CONDEMNS ALL SUCH GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHOSE IDEOLOGIES ARE BASED ON HATE, VIOLENCE AND INTOLERANCE. AND WHEREAS THE ROUND ROCK ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES WISHES TO AFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, I CHANGED IT AND I SAID ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS. AND THEN I LEFT IN THE IN PARTICULAR ARE BLACK, INDIGENOUS I'M I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT HISPANIC OR LATINO. I MEAN, WHATEVER THEY PREFER TO BE CALLED, I THINK HISPANIC WAS THE ONE THAT WAS THE I READ THE ARTICLE SO WE CAN MAKE THAT HISPANIC, JEWISH, MUSLIM, ARAB, ASIAN AMERICAN, PACIFIC ISLANDER AND LGBTQIA COMMUNITIES AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. AND THEN I ON THE LAST ONE, I CHANGED IT. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT ANY GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO PROMOTE HATE, VIOLENCE AND INTOLERANCE ARE REJECTED AND CONDEMNED AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EFFORTS TO ADDRESS AND ENGAGE AND LEAD IN THE DISTRICT IN WAYS THAT PROMOTE A DEEPER, SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF OUR HUMANITY AND COMMUNITY. AND I CHANGED THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE DIVISIVE. I WANTED THIS TO BE SOMETHING. UNFORTUNATELY, DEI MEAN SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. [04:40:03] AND I REALLY WANTED TO STAND AS A COMMUNITY, ONE FOR ONE AGAINST WHAT HAPPENED TO TRUSTEE XIAO. IT WAS HORRIFIC, AND I JUST THAT WAS THE WHOLE IMPETUS OF THE RESOLUTION. AND SO I DIDN'T WANT IT TO GET CONFUSED WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE FELT LIKE THE RESOLUTION WAS ABOUT SILENCING SPEECH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS ABOUT CONDEMNING HATRED AND SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE. AND SO THAT'S THIS IS WHAT I BROUGHT FORWARD AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE INITIAL JUST CHANGES. OBVIOUSLY, I'M OPEN TO FEEDBACK. I JUST DID THE BEST I COULD BASED ON ALL OF THE THE FEEDBACK GIVEN TO ME. TRUSTEE HARRISON. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE VESSA. I KNOW THE ASSUMPTION FROM LOTS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WAS THAT I WROTE THIS AND I DID NOT. WHICH IS A REALLY INTERESTING ASSUMPTION WITH ME BEING THE ONLY BLACK BOARD MEMBER. I LIKE YOUR CHANGES. THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE LANGUAGE THE AISD HAS USED THIS HARASSMENT BASED ON RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, DISABILITY, AGE OR ANY OTHER BIAS PROHIBITED BY LAW. THAT'S WHAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN. I KNOW THAT, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS BROAD AND COVERS EVERYTHING. AND THEN I THINK THAT WHEN YOU REQUESTED THIS, IT WAS BASED ON THE ANTI-ASIAN HATE. AND I THINK THAT. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE CREATING A RESOLUTION, WE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID TO SAY THE THING THAT WE NEED TO SAY, AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THAT INCIDENT. AND THAT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THAT INCIDENTS THAT HAD BEEN HAPPENING AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS THAT HAD BEEN HAPPENING ON OUR CAMPUSES AS WELL. SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS OUR AAPI COMMUNITY. SO I WANTED TO AFFIRM THAT I REALLY LIKE YOUR BROADENING OF THIS STATEMENT. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE LGBTQI LANGUAGE. I'VE SEEN SOME DIFFERENT THINGS, SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO LOOK AT. WHAT THE MOST RECENT LANGUAGE IS FOR THAT, IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUT GROUPS AS WELL. I MEAN, AND THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD, YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT I INITIALLY DID THIS IN RESPONSE TO, YOU KNOW, ASIAN HATE. BUT I MEAN, I DO THINK LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LATIN EX, WHAT DO THEY WANT TO BE CALLED? WHAT DO PEOPLE? WHAT THEY WANT TO THE LGBTQ I A PLUS, I'M NOT SURE. SO I'M WONDERING, DO WE JUST LIKE AS MUCH AS I THINK THAT THAT HIGHLIGHTING GROUPS THAT DO EXPERIENCE MORE HATE AND VIOLENCE IS IMPORTANT. I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY BY SAYING THE WRONG WORD FOR THEM, SO I WONDER, SHOULD WE JUST LEAVE IT TO THE TOP PART WHERE WE JUST SAY ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS? AND STAND AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. TRUSTEE WEIR. ACTUALLY, THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION, TRUSTEE VESSA JUST SORT OF LOOKING AT OUR I KNOW AISD IN ONE OF THEIRS AND WE GOT IT IN A COUPLE OF OUR EMAILS WHERE THEY JUST CITED THEIR LOCAL POLICY AGAINST DISCRIMINATION. I THINK THAT IF WE JUST STICK WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN WRITING AS PART OF OUR POLICY, I MEAN A RESOLUTION. I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME CONFUSION OUT THERE ABOUT A RESOLUTION IS NOT THE SAME AS POLICY, BUT WHERE WE CAN REFERENCE OUR POLICY. IT'S IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING AND JUST USE THAT SAME WORDING. I'M LOOKING AT THE EMAIL, AND I DIDN'T ACTUALLY PULL UP OUR ACTUAL POLICY, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THEIRS. COULD ONE OF YOU MARK UP IF YOU HAVE THAT EMAIL MARKUP, THAT AREA SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE? YEAH, SO IF I JUST IF WE JUST DID SOMETHING LIKE WISHES TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO FFH LOCAL. AND THEN, AND CITE IT, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK UP THE POLICY, BUT IT IS THE ONE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, PROHIBITS ACTS OF DISCRIMINATION, INCLUDING HARASSMENT BASED ON RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER, WHATEVER IS IN OUR POLICY. THIS IS I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE EMAIL AND IT HAS AISD'S POLICY, SO WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT OURS. OK. [04:45:01] BUT I DO LIKE JUST TAKING OUT THAT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST END IT AT POLITICAL BELIEFS, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE FINE. OK. WELL, IT'S JUST A RESOLUTION. SO IF IT'S OK TO JUST ELIMINATE THE IN PARTICULAR LINE AND JUST SAY OR POLITICAL BELIEFS. AND STAND IN STANDS AND START UP AGAIN AT STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. NEXT, I HAVE TRUSTEE WESTON WHILE YOU GUYS ARE PONTIFICATING THESE CHANGES, LET'S LET'S SEE WHAT TRUSTEE WESTON HAS TO SAY. OK, SO TRUSTEE VESSA ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS WAS THIS AGENDA ITEM M6 THAT YOU REQUESTED THIS? CAN WE JUST GET CLARITY? OK, THANK YOU. BUT YOU DID NOT WRITE IT. OK? DID WE GET WHO WROTE THIS? CAN I GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? AND THEN I'LL PROCEED. I WROTE THE FIRST DRAFT. TRUSTEE WESTON. OK, SO YOU'RE THE AUTHOR OF M6, THANK YOU. I WAS LISTENING TO NPR LAST WEEK, AND THEY WERE CITING A STUDY THAT I'VE LOOKED UP THAT SAYS THAT TWO PERCENT OF HISPANIC AMERICANS FAVOR THE TERM LATIN X AND 40 PERCENT. OK. SO AND AND THANK YOU TRUSTEE WEIR FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY. AND I'LL JUST END WITH THIS. I'M NOT SURE HOW SPENDING TIME ON THIS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY. I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS IMPROVING THE LITERACY AND THE NUMERACY OF CHILDREN WHO REALLY ARE COUNTING ON US. I SAW SOME LIGHTS GO ON IN RESPONSE TO TRUSTEE WESTON STATEMENT, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REMIND US THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HONOR EACH OTHER'S REQUESTS, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY A BOARD MEMBER, SO IF WE CAN TRY TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THEIR REQUEST AS WELL. SO NEXT, I HAVE TRUSTEE HARRISON. YEAH, I WANT TO SAY THIS ABSOLUTELY APPLIES TO LITERACY. SO IF ALL STUDENTS COME TO US AND PRE-K, WHETHER IT'S WE DON'T REALLY HAVE PRE-K THREE, BUT HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE WILL PRE-K THREE, PRE-K FOUR AND THEY COME TO US AT THE SAME LEVEL AND BY THIRD GRADE, THERE'S HUGE DISPROPORTIONALITIES AS SOMETHING IS GOING ON AND THERE'S SCIENCE BEHIND THIS WHEN STUDENTS DON'T FEEL SAFE AT SCHOOL. THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE AMYGDALA HIJACK. YOUR BRAIN PRODUCES ALL THESE CHEMICALS AND YOU CAN BE PRESENT IN CLASS. AND AS AN EDUCATOR, I'VE SEEN THIS, BUT YOU EXPERIENCE A FLIGHT FIGHT, FLIGHT OR FREEZE RESPONSE. I PERSONALLY HAVE OBSERVED MOST COMMONLY A FREEZE RESPONSE WHERE STUDENTS ARE PRESENT, THEY'RE IN THE ROOM, THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION. BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOSE CHEMICALS THAT ARE RELEASING AND THE UPTAKE IS NOT THERE. SO THIS ABSOLUTELY IS LINKED TO OUR OUTCOMES. WE HAVE TO STOP THIS STUFF IN OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S LINKED TO THE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES OF OUR STUDENTS. AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY IN A GOAL SESSION, WE SAY WE WANT TO CLOSE THE GAPS, BUT DO WE WANT TO COUNT THE COST OF CLOSING THE GAPS? THE WAY WE ACT UP HERE SOMETIMES REINFORCES THAT WE AREN'T THAT SERIOUS ABOUT CLOSING THE GAPS IF WE'RE OK WITH THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, IF WE EXPLAIN IT AWAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO AFFIRM THAT THERE IS A VERY SCIENTIFIC TIE TO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR STUDENTS IN ALL ASPECTS WHEN THEY'RE AFRAID OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE AT WORK AND YOU'RE AFRAID SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME IN WITH A GUN, DO YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON WORK ALL THE TIME? NO. SO THIS DOES TIE TO OUR ACADEMIC OUTCOMES. TRUSTEE WEIR. YOU ALREADY SAID MY. YES. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. I SAID I ALREADY SAID MY PIECE, YOU SAID MY NAME? YEAH. TRUSTEE WEIR, TRUSTEE WEIR, I KNOW, BUT I ALREADY SAID I ALREADY ACTUALLY TRUSTEE HARRISON IS GOING TO PULL UP OUR POLICY AND TYPE IT OUT FOR US. OK. NEXT IS TRUSTEE VESSA. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WANTING TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TALKING ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOMES. I CERTAINLY WANT TO DO THAT TOO. BUT TRUSTEE XIAO IS ACCUSED OF BEING A SPY AND HIM AND ALL LIKE HIM, WHICH I THINK WAS A REFERENCE NOT SURE TO PEOPLE THAT THAT ARE LIKE HIM. THEY'RE FROM THE SAME NATIONAL NATIONALITY THEY WERE SAYING TO KILL THEM. OKAY, THIS HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THIS WASN'T LIKE THIS OCCURRED RIGHT HERE. [04:50:03] IT NEEDS TO BE DENOUNCED IN THE STRONGEST WAY. AND I MEAN, I'M SO SORRY THAT IT TOOK SO LONG. BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN AND THAT WE TOOK SOME TIME, AND OBVIOUSLY IT EVOKED A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO WRONG. IT WAS SO WRONG. I MEAN, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS, OK? I LIVE IN A VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE MY CHILDREN'S FRIENDS. THIS IS MY COLLEAGUE ON THE DAIS. THESE ARE MY GOOD PERSONAL FRIENDS. AND AND THERE WAS THERE WERE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THEM TO BE ALL MURDERED. LIKE, THAT'S HORRIFIC. IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THEY ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A SPY LEGITIMATELY, THEY WENT ON FOR LIKE PARAGRAPHS ABOUT HOW HE WAS LEGITIMATELY A SPY FOR THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. THAT'S WHY IT'S WORTH THE TIME. I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M GOING TO REALLY TRY NOT TO. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. DR. BONE YOUR NEXT AND THEN TRUSTEE HARRISON. AND BEFORE YOU DO, THIS MAY CHANGE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. I THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT M5 AND M6 ACROSS THE DAIS THAT PERHAPS A WAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS RATHER THAN WORDSMITHING RIGHT HERE. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE EVEN WITH CHANGES THAT ARE MAKING RIGHT NOW SAYING, OK, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO ADD THIS, WE'RE GOING TO CROSS THIS OUT. WOULD THE PEOPLE ON THE DAIS BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT THAT TRUSTEE VESSA HAS PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS THAT AREN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WATCHING THIS LATER OR WHATEVER. AND THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT FROM TRUSTEE WESTON, THEY'RE SENT OUT TO THE BOARD. PERHAPS PATTI COULD SEND IT OUT IN AN EMAIL. WE COULD PROVIDE OUR FEEDBACK TO PATTI. SHE COULD PUT THAT FEEDBACK TOGETHER AND THEN PRESENT US WITH A DOCUMENT IN FOR JANUARY, AND WE HAVE A SIMILAR MOTION ON THIS ONE, AS WE DID FOR M5. JUST A SUGGESTION. TRUSTEE BONE, YOU'RE NEXT. SURE. FIRST, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FEELINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAD. WHEN THEY READ THIS DOCUMENT. AND THAT WAS ACROSS NATIONALITIES. WE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS. AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND NOT ONLY DO I ACKNOWLEDGE IT. I WANT TO ENSURE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DON'T POST DIVISIVE EVEN DRAFT THINGS LIKE THIS TO OUR AGENDA. I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE, AND I'M WITH TRUSTEE VESSA. THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. IT IS A SENSITIVE ISSUE, BUT SINCE IT'S A SENSITIVE ISSUE, WE NEED TO BE VERY DILIGENT, I THINK WHEN WE POST THIS. SO THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT. WE DO. A LOT OF YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION. I WANT TO JUST SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD ON THIS. AND SO TRUSTEE BONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE DON'T POST DRAFTS OF THINGS LIKE THIS. WELL, THAT'S HOW WE... RIGHT. THAT MEANS SOME KIND OF PROCESS. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE A LEARNING POINT THAT WE DON'T PUT SOMETHING THAT WAS THIS OFFENSIVE WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE. I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? THIS MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT WE SEEM TO BE DOING THIS QUITE OFTEN. SO. LET'S FIND A PROCESS A WAY TO HOPEFULLY LIMIT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. TRUSTEE WEIR, I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK THAT TRUSTEE WEIR'S COMMENT IS IS RELATED TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION. IT IS. I WILL TELL YOU. AND GOOD LUCK TRUSTEE FELLER. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ARGUED THAT ONE TRUSTEE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT ANYTHING ON AN AGENDA. NOW HOW YOU DO LET ANY ONE DO THE TOPIC. CAN I JUST CLARIFY? WELL, OK, I CAN GO BACK AND FIND EMAILS, BUT AND I CAN READ THE LETTER THAT YOU HAD YOUR ATTORNEY SEND ME. BUT I, TRUSTEE WEIR. I YEAH, WE'RE A LITTLE OFF TOPIC. HMM. GOOD LUCK TRUSTEE FELLER. BUT I THINK HAVING A PROCESS, IT'S HARD AND THERE ARE I MEAN, IT'S TAKEN THIS MANY MONTHS TO GET ON FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS A DECISION OF THE BOARD PRESIDENT OF WHAT GETS ON. BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW IT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO A DRAFT IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE OR TRUSTEES THAT WANT A PARTICULAR THING ON THE AGENDA. THE ONLY WAY FOR ALL OF US TO TALK ABOUT IT IS FOR IT TO BE POSTED. NOW IT WAS POSTED WITH MY NAME TOUGH. WELL, I WILL RECOMMEND JUST BECAUSE MAYBE AND WE'VE SAID THIS, I'VE TRIED TO SAY THIS WHEN YOU WERE PRESIDENT, ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT IS ACTUALLY TO WORK WITH THE [04:55:01] TRUSTEE THAT ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THE ITEM, AND WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. THREE OF US ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THE LOOP. SO ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THIS WOULD JUST BE TO MAKE SURE, LIKE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH TO TRUSTEE VESSA. THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS HAVE MULTIPLE STAFF LOOK AT IT. COMPANIES DO THIS ALL THE TIME. THIS ISN'T LIKE ROCKET SCIENCE. SO THERE'S WAYS TO DO THIS. I JUST REALLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE THE MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE THAT CAME AND THE DIVISIVENESS THAT THIS HAS BROUGHT THE NUMBER OF EMAILS AND WE ACTUALLY HURT PEOPLE'S FEELINGS BY PUTTING THIS OUT. I MEAN, YOU HEARD ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE COME AND I JUST WE REALLY NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND I'M JUST ASKING US TO DO BETTER. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS. I JUST CAN'T HARDLY EVEN. WE SIT HERE AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF WORDS. AND WHAT WAS THAT? 15 MINUTES AGO, WE VOTED ON BOARD GOALS. WHERE DO WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS? I MEAN, WE HAVE BOARD GOALS WHERE WE HAVE POPULATIONS. WE'RE NOT PROVIDING EQUITY. WE'RE NOT PROVIDING EQUITABLE TREATMENT. WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN HARP ON THIS, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO WRITE RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS THAT AREN'T WORTH THE PAPER THEY'RE PRINTED ON AND THEY'RE NOT WORTH OUR TIME AND OUR COMMUNITY'S TIME, AND ALL THEY HAD CAUSE WAS DIVISIVENESS. PLEASE, LET'S NOT DO IT. TRUSTEE BONE. LET'S JUST CAUTION. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE KIND OF RESOLUTIONS, IF IT'S EVEN GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK. ACTIONS NEED TO BE TAKEN. IT JUST DOESN'T NEED TO BE WORDS. SO I WANT TO SEE THE ACTIONS. I WANT US TO TAKE THIS AND BE LIKE, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN THE BOARD GOALS. WE HAD A PARENT MAKE GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT OUR BOARD GOALS AND I'M TYING IT TO THIS. AND I'M ALSO GOING TO SAY BECAUSE WE ARE AN EDUCATION OF CHILDREN AND WE HAVE SPENT IN FIVE FOR. AND WHILE I THINK DISABILITY IS PUT IN HERE, TRUSTEE VESSA PUT DISABILITY IN HERE, ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE. BUT WE HAD LEFT OUT SPED AND 504 STUDENTS TO BEGIN WITH. AND I JUST THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IT JUST I THINK IT HIT A NERVE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I JUST WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT. TRUSTEE HARRISON HAS HAD HER LIGHT ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW IF I REMEMBER. THE ONLY THING WE LOOKED AT FFH LOCAL, I THINK, BUT THE ONE THAT TRUSTEE VESSA IS RECOMMENDING THAT I'M RECOMMENDING AND I'LL SEND THIS LANGUAGE TO TRUSTEE VESSA AND TO JENNY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANSIVE. WE IN OURS, WE DON'T INCLUDE THINGS LIKE GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE INCLUDE MAYBE EVEN NATIONAL ORIGIN. SO I'M STILL GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE. WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING, THOUGH. THE AISD HAD SO IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT MUCH, BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, PRESIDENT FELLER, IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON THE JANUARY AGENDA AND GIVE THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO UPDATE BASED ON OUR COMMENTS. IT WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION. I HAVEN'T HEARD A MOTION TO PULL THIS AND MOVE IT TO JANUARY TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. BUT I WILL SAY THE SAME THING THAT I SAID ON MAY FIVE. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORDSMITH THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN A FINAL COPY OF. I DON'T I'M I JUST CAN'T DO THAT. PLUS IT'S 12:16 AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING, I SEE THE CONSTERNATION ON YOUR FACE TRUSTEE VESSA AND YOU DON'T WANT TO PUSH IT AGAIN. BUT I'M I FEAR FROM WHAT I'M HEARING THAT IF WE DON'T PUSH IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO PASS AT ALL. SO REAL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS THIS LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAND AGAINST WHAT HAPPENED. AS WRITTEN, I'M JUST LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK I'M RECEIVING. OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE, BUT I AM JUST LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M RECEIVING. SO DO I HAVE ANY TRUSTEE WEIR? YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL THE SAME MEETING AS M... TO A MEETING IN JANUARY. YEAH. OK. CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THAT WHAT THESE UPDATES? YES, MA'AM. SO MOVE TO POSTPONE WITH THE UPDATES AND TO TRUSTEE BONE'S POINT TO LET TRUSTEE VESSA WORK WITH STAFF THIS TIME. BEYOND DOUBT, ONE THING. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WRONG WITH THIS? I FIGURED THAT OUT. I HAVE A A MOTION, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD A SECOND. I DIDN'T GET A SECOND A MOTION TO PULL THIS AND MOVE IT TO JANUARY. [05:00:08] NO, SECOND, THAT MOTION FAILS. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM M6? I MOVE THAT WE I MEAN, APPROVE THE MODIFIED VERSION OF THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY, INCITE HATRED WITH IN PARTICULAR INDIFFERENT TO THE TO THE WHAT I DRAFTED AND WHAT YOU HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE AFTER BELIEFS TO OFFER ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO WE START WITH IN PARTICULAR AND THEN DOWN TO COMMUNITIES THAT THAT WOULD BE GONE. BUT THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION WOULD STAND AS AS ON THE DOCUMENT THAT I PROVIDED. I HAVE A VERY LENGTHY MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND AISLE SECOND AND I HAVE A COMMENT. TRUSTEE VESSA DO YOU HAVE THE DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE TYPED VERSION OF THIS THAT YOU? OH YEAH. I MEAN, I CAN SEND IT TO YOU NOW IF YOU WANT. COULD YOU SEND IT? BECAUSE I THINK THE DISCOMFORT IS PEOPLE NOT SEEING THE FINAL THING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. EXACTLY THE SAME, MINUS ELIMINATING THAT ONE LINE. WHERE WE JUST GOT FROM IN PARTICULAR, ALL THE WAY THROUGH COMMUNITIES. I JUST THINK WE MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE WITH THE VOTE IF WE HAD IT FINALIZED. SO IF YOU SEND IT TO ME, I'M HAPPY TO LIKE. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING TO ALLOW THIS DOCUMENT TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO TRUSTEES AND BE ABLE TO READ ON A BREAK TO BE ABLE TO READ THE ENTIRETY OF THE CHANGES IF IT'S VERY MINIMAL AND WE CAN ACCESS IT QUICKLY. SECOND, OK. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. PASSES FOUR-TWO. IT IS 12:20. WE HAVE ONE LAST ACTION ITEM, I KNOW WE ARE DUE FOR A RESTROOM BREAK, BUT LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS LAST ACTION ITEM AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO BREAK FOR A, FOR A LITTLE BIT WAVE FIRST READING AN ADOPTION OF POLICY, CFC LOCAL. AND THIS CAME FROM TRUSTEE WESTON. SO I WAS REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT AND THE WORD INVESTIGATION IS PRETTY POWERFUL. AND I SEE THE WORD THAT WE'RE GOING TO EMPOWER THREE TRUSTEES TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION. I WILL TELL YOU THAT LAST FRIDAY, I MET WITH MS. BASIRU AND MR. WOOLSTON. THEY WERE VERY KIND TO HAVE ME COME IN ON JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS OF NOTICE. SO THANK YOU, DR. AZAIEZ, FOR THAT GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE FROM YOUR STAFF. I WOULD I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE NOT DO THIS AT ALL. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES FOUR TRUSTEES JUST TO DECIDE, APPARENTLY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND TO LOWER THAT THRESHOLD TO THREE TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION JUST DOESN'T. I DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL CHECK TO ME. I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WITH REGARD TO THE LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT OUR LIGHTHOUSE SYSTEM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING AND WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE, HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IT IS BEING MISUSED WHEN IT COMES TO TRUSTEES. AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S FOR ALL SEVEN OF US. YOU KNOW, LIGHTHOUSE, AS MR. WOOLSTON REMINDED ME ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, IS INTENDED TO ALERT US TO FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE. AND THE 90 LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME TO MS. BASIRU IN THE FIRST IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE. IT'S HAD TO DO WITH JUST ATTACKING TRUSTEES ON VERY DIFFERENT VARIOUS THINGS. SO I WOULD REALLY JUST RECOMMEND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND TRUSTEE LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS THAT THEY JUST WE ALL GET COPIES OF THEM AND THEN WE TREAT IT LIKE WE TREAT EVERYTHING ELSE. IF ONE OF US WANTS TO PUT ONE OF THE REPORTS ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION OR DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION OR WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE THAT WE DO THAT, BUT I DID AGREE WITH THEM THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS WHERE EVERY LIGHTHOUSE REPORT REQUIRES AN INVESTIGATION AND ALL THIS WORK AND TIME SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO. SO I WOULD I WOULD AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STREAMLINED. I'M JUST I WON'T BE VOTING TO EMPOWER THREE TRUSTEES TO LAUNCH INVESTIGATIONS, AND I WOULD ASK THE BOARD THAT WE JUST FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. LET'S WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER. [05:05:03] LET'S ALL GET VISIBILITY OF THE LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS. AND THEN IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS, TREAT IT LIKE WE WOULD ANY OTHER THING WE'D WANT ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU WANT TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE YOU SEE A LIGHTHOUSE REPORT THAT YOU THINK IS WORTHY OF IT, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, GET YOUR COLLEAGUES TO BUY INTO IT AND A BOARD MEETING AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. SO MY ACTUALLY MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TABLE ITEM M7 AND COME UP WITH A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS. THAT'S MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I DO HAVE TWO LIGHTS ON FOR DISCUSSION TRUSTEE WEIR. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT RIGHT NOW, AS YOU SAID, EVERY LIGHTHOUSE REPORT IS BEING INVESTIGATED, AND WE ASKED STAFF WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OF HOW TO SAVE THE DISTRICT MONEY AND TO STOP INVESTIGATING ALL THE FRIVOLOUS LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS. AND. I I THINK. WHEN YOU WHEN THEY'RE TALKING INVESTIGATION DOWN HERE. IT WOULD BE WITH AN AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND IT WOULD BE OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR, NOT A LIKE AN INVESTIGATION OF WHERE YOU'D HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN, IT WOULD JUST BE. SHE'S FOUND SOMETHING THAT SHE CAN'T JUST EASILY DISMISS IT. AND THEN IF THREE OR MORE TRUSTEES AGREED, THEN SHE WOULD ACTUALLY JUST GATHER THE INFORMATION BEFORE SHE BRINGS IT BACK TO THE FULL BOARD. AND TO ME THAT. I CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO ADD ANOTHER ITEM ONTO AN AGENDA THAT ESPECIALLY GIVEN ALL OF OUR LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SIT AND GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE AND TRY TO DECIDE IF THERE'S FOUR OF US. WELL, I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, HOW ARE WE ALL GOING TO REVIEW THEM AND HOW ARE WE ALL GOING TO HAVE A WAY TO DO IT? SO I MEAN, TO ME, THIS IS A SUPER SIMPLE. MOST OF THE REPORTS ARE FRIVOLOUS. SHE'S GOING TO GET RID OF THEM AND TAKE CARE OF THEM AND SIGN OFF ON THEM AS FRIVOLOUS. THE VERY RARE EXCEPTION, WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'VE HAD ANY. WOULD COME TO WHAT I WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY STATEMENTS, WHICH I THINK WE NEED AN AUDIT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE, AN AUDIT COMMITTEE WOULD GO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU DO A LITTLE MORE INVESTIGATION INTO THIS AND THEN BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT. I MEAN. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE SIMPLEST, CLEANEST, EASIEST, FASTEST. LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THIS FULL BOARD TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS NO AUDIT COMMITTEE, AUDIT COMMITTEE IS A MEMBER OF THREE BOARD MEMBERS, BUT I JUST WANT TO NOTE WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT WORDING. OKAY. SO I WON'T SAY AUDIT COMMITTEE, BUT SIMILAR TO. IT WOULD BE LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPOINTING TWO PEOPLE TO THE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE INITIALS FOR THE NEW OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW? BUT I THINK THAT IT IS A VERY SIMPLE WAY FOR US TO TRY TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE REPORTS FOR STAFF TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE REPORTS. WE WOULD SEE ALL OF THEM IF YOU I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND I WASN'T EVEN PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE CREATION OF THIS. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH IT, THE BOARD, THE FULL BOARD SEES EVERYTHING. UM. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S BEING HIDDEN AND JUST TO HAVE OUR OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR GET GATHER MORE INFORMATION BEFORE COMING TO THE FULL BOARD IS NOT AN INVESTIGATION WHERE YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, CALLED THE POLICE OR I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, AND MAYBE INVESTIGATION IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT. AND WE COULD USE INVESTIGATION OR REVIEW AGAIN IN THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN CFC LOCAL, IT DOES STATE INVESTIGATIONS. WE AGAIN, YOU AS THE BOARD HAVE OPTIONS ON THIS. THIS IS A PROPOSED PROCESS MAP. YOU AS A BOARD HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. SO ANYTHING ON HERE THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO BE CHANGED YOU AS A BOARD HAVE THAT OPTION. TRUSTEE HARRISON IS NEXT, BUT PERHAPS ONE OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS I MAY BE HEARING FROM YOU, TRUSTEE WESTON, IS LET'S STATE THE OBVIOUS IT FEELS A LOT LIKE A TWO FIVE BOARD TO YOU. AND IF THIS IS A THREE TRUSTEE REQUIREMENT, THEN THAT FEELS LIKE MAYBE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING INVESTIGATED IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF IT'S A THRESHOLD OF THREE, IS THAT YOUR CONCERN? I'M NOT TRYING TO READ INTO YOU, BUT I I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO FEEL LIKE THIS WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY TO EXCLUDE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT HAVE A MAJORITY. IS THAT A CONCERN THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN THIS, OR AM I READING THAT WRONG? [05:10:04] SO I'LL JUST START BY SAYING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT REMAINS CONSTANT IS CHANGE. AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO HOLD ON THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EVER CHANGING THING. SO IT'S NOTHING SPECIFIC TO THE CURRENT MAKEUP. I KNOW THAT AMY SAID THAT CURRENTLY THEY'RE ALL BEING INVESTIGATED, BUT I ACTUALLY ASKED RAQUEL ABOUT THAT ON FRIDAY. THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT HAPPENING, ON PAPER THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT WE'RE JUST BEING FYIED, WE'RE JUST BEING PROVIDED COPIES OF ALL OF THE LIGHTHOUSE REPORTS. AND AND I'M ADVOCATING, LET'S JUST CODIFY THAT LET'S JUST CODIFY WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS FYIING. EVERYBODY GETS TO LOOK AT IT. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S JUST GO BACK ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA REQUEST PROCESS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE THAT SAYS IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, IF I SEE THIS LIGHTHOUSE REPORT AND IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO-AND-SO IS A DIRTBAG AND I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM, WELL, THEN I REQUESTED IT GO ON THE AGENDA. I MEAN, WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR AGENDA, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO. IT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING PARTICULAR ABOUT THE CURRENT BOARD. OK. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU. I JUST WANT TO SIMPLIFY THIS. I WANT TO TAKE WORK OFF OF HER PLATE. I WANT TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AND I WANT TO RELY ON PROCESSES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SO THAT WE'RE WORKING SMARTER, NOT HARDER. OK, I'M GOING TO GO TO TRUSTEE HARRISON NEXT. I THINK THE WHOLE THING BEHIND THIS IS THAT PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MANY HOURS RAQUEL WAS SPENDING GOING THROUGH THESE REPORTS AND AND MAYBE NOT EVEN THE PROCESS. SO WHEN SOMEBODY SENDS A LIGHTHOUSE REPORT, WE GET FLAGGED. SOMETIMES THE BOARD OFFICERS GET IT. IF THEY'RE NAMED IN IT, OTHER PEOPLE GET IT. BUT WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IS WE ARE REQUESTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE ACCUSATION, ANY PROOF, ET CETERA. SO RACHEL HAS PILES ON HER DESK BASED ON THE BOARD, AND THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME. HOWEVER, IF SOMEBODY REPORTS SOMETHING THAT IS CONCERNING, THAT IS CRIMINAL, THAT DOES HAVE REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE BOARD, THEN THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS FOR FOLLOWING THE INVESTIGATION THROUGH. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE KEY THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY COME IN. SO THEN WHAT DO WE DO FROM THERE? WHAT GETS DISMISSED AND WHAT GETS FOLLOWED THROUGH ON? I'M GOING TO SPEAK REAL QUICK. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REMIND THE THE BOARD THAT THIS PROCESS, THE CURRENT ONE, NOT THE ONE THAT IS PROPOSED, WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM A REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT PROCESS. SO AGAIN, THAT OUTSIDE ATTORNEY, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM. NOW WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL MORE BOARD REPORTS THROUGH ANONYMOUS THROUGH THE LIGHTHOUSE ANONYMOUS SYSTEM. IT'S INCREASED A LOT. SO AT THE TIME OF THAT REVIEW, IT WASN'T THAT MANY REPORTS, BUT WE STILL NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT A PROCESS TO HANDLE ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SUPERINTENDENT. THIS PROCESS IS FOR BOTH. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. SO WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS RECOMMENDED THROUGH A REVIEW THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. TRUSTEE WESTON YOU'RE NEXT, BUT PERHAPS I CAN THROW IN A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION IN HERE. HOW ABOUT IN THIS FLOWCHART WHEN WE GET TO I.A. SINS RESOLUTION REPORT TO FULL BOARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO INVESTIGATE. THE NEXT ARROW DOWN, THIS IS IN THE THIRD COLUMN OVER. ARE YOU SEEING THAT IT'S A PINKISH COLORED? ARE YOU GUYS TRACKING WITH ME? PUT THERE ANY TRUSTEE THAT DISAGREES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE INTERNAL AUDITOR GOES TO THE FULL BOARD FOR REVIEW AS TO WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED. AND SO THAT WAY THEN WE CAN DETERMINE DOES IT NEED TO GO TO AN OUTSIDE BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IS TO IMMEDIATELY GO TO AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL OR EXTERNAL INVESTIGATOR? WE MAY NOT NEED TO GO TO THAT NEXT STEP IMMEDIATELY AFTER THREE TRUSTEES REQUESTED. SO ARE YOU ALL TRACKING WITH ME THAT IF ANY TRUSTEE DISAGREES WITH WITH RAQUEL'S RECOMMENDATION, WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND SEE IF WE HAVE IF THAT, IF THAT [P. CLOSED SESSION] HAS SUPPORT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NOT REALLY. SO I'M SORRY. IT'S VERY LATE AND IT'S TAKEN ME A MOMENT TO PROCESS. SO IT WOULD BE INTERNAL AUDITOR SENTS RESOLUTION REPORT TO FULL BOARD WITH RECOMMENDATION TO INVESTIGATE IF THREE OR MORE BOARD TRUSTEES AFTER READING THAT RESPOND INDIVIDUALLY TO HER AS, I GUESS, HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK INITIALLY, RIGHT? SHE'D SEND IT TO THE FULL BOARD. I WOULD. I MIGHT EMAIL TRUSTEE BONE, TRUSTEE HARRISON. WE ALL THREE EMAIL WEIR LIKE OH THAT'S CONCERNING, SO SHE'S GOING TO START IT. BUT IF ONE OF US SAYS NO, YOU'RE SAYING AT ANOTHER LEVEL THAT IF I'M ACTUALLY PROPOSING [05:15:03] THAT WE TAKE THE THREE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS OUT OF IT, AND THAT IF ONE BOARD MEMBER DISAGREES WITH HER RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER TO INVESTIGATE OR NOT, THEN IT COMES TO A CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION. VERY QUICK, I'M HOPING, AND WHY THAT TRUSTEE WANTS THIS INVESTIGATED AND THEN BRING IT BACK OUT FOR A MOTION THAT THIS LIGHTHOUSE REPORT WAS REQUESTED TO BE INVESTIGATED. ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED AND THEN MOVE ON QUICKLY AND MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT WE COULD PROCESS THEM QUICKLY. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS REALLY LOOKED AT THE BOARD REPORTS LATELY AND SAID, YEAH, THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED. I COULD BE WRONG. AM I WRONG ON THAT? NO. OK. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY TO STREAMLINE IT IN AND RAQUEL CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION. I THINK MOST OF I HAVEN'T EVER HEARD ANYBODY EXPRESS ANY DISTRUST IN HER DECISION MAKING PROCESS, BUT WE'LL GET TO REVIEW THEM IF ANYBODY DISAGREES. THEN WE BRING THAT TO THE BOARD FOR A VOTE AND A BOARD ACTION. I'LL TELL YOU MY CONCERN WITH THREE TRUSTEES IS IT GETS VERY CLOSE TO A WALKING QUORUM. AND WHEN YOU MAKE A REQUIREMENT OF THREE TRUSTEES, IT'S. WHO'S HEARD WHAT HAS HAVE THREE TRUSTEES TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THEN IT HAS TO GO TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO BE PLACED. IT'S A REALLY FINE LINE AND THAT MAKES ME REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE SITTING IN THIS POSITION NOW. WHAT DOES BIG A DEAL WHEN IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY? AND IT IS, IT'S TOTALLY A JOKE. AND I GUESS I WAS JUST WHEN I JUST NOW READ IT, I JUST ASSUMED THE THREE TRUSTEES. IT WOULDN'T BE A COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHY SHE CORRECTED ME A MINUTE AGO BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE TRUSTEES WOULD BE INDIVIDUALLY EMAILING HER AND IT WOULDN'T BE A QUORUM. BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO IT WOULD BE, IA SENDS RESOLUTION REPORT TO FULL BOARD WITH RECOMMENDATION. SHE SENDS US A RECOMMENDATION TO INVESTIGATE. IF ONE OF US SAYS NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THEN IT COMES. THAT'S BOX NUMBER ONE. IF ONE TRUSTEE DISAGREES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN WE COME TO A FULL BOARD MEETING AND THEN WE DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO BE INVESTIGATED. YEP, IT TRUSTEE. HOLD ON, WHO DID I HAVE NEXT? YEP, TRUSTEE WESTON. OK, SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE TRUSTEE HARRISON YOU SAID THAT YOU KNOW, WE WE NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS IF THERE ARE CRIMES. WE DON'T NEED A LIGHTHOUSE REPORTING SYSTEM TO REPORT CRIMES. SO LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING. ANYBODY WHO EVER WITNESSES A CRIME? OR BELIEVES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PARTY OR AN OBSERVER OF A CRIME OR HAS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT A CRIME HAS OCCURRED OR WILL OCCUR CAN JUST GO TO THE POLICE. WE DON'T NEED A LIGHTHOUSE REPORTING SYSTEM FOR THAT. SO THE LIGHTHOUSE SYSTEM, THIS IS ANONYMOUS. THIS IS LITERALLY LIKE ANYBODY CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND JUST SAY ANYTHING. AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE OVERCOMPLICATING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT COMPLICATED. AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST I WOULD REALLY MAKE A MAKE A PLEA TO JUST MAKE THIS SIMPLE AND LIGHTEN HER WORKLOAD AND SAY THAT WE'RE JUST ALL GOING TO GET AS AN FYI, A COPY OF EVERY LIGHTHOUSE REPORT. AND IF ANY TRUSTEE FEELS LIKE THEY WANT TO MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST BASED ON WHAT'S IN THAT LIGHTHOUSE REPORT, THEN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. I MEAN, MS. [INAUDIBLE] WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. I DO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THESE REPORTS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THESE REPORTS, AND I STILL THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE IF THERE NEED TO BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED AND A PROCESS. SO. HOWEVER, YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE THIS AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. BUT I STILL WANT IT DOCUMENTED, SO I KNOW GOING FORWARD HOW I NEED TO PROCEED WITH THIS. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED, I'M JUST NOW REMEMBERING IT MYSELF WHEN I SAID, YOU KNOW, EVEN PUT THE TRUSTEES ON A TIMELINE, LIKE WHEN YOU SEND IT TO US ON MAY 15TH, IF NOBODY HAS COME BACK TO YOU BY JUNE 15TH, IT'S CLOSED AND IT MOVES ON. I MEAN, COULD THAT QUALIFY AS A PROCESS? WE HAVE THAT IN HERE. I HAVE THAT IN HERE FOR 30 DAYS. IF WE WERE TO SEND IT TO YOU, IF I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, WE WOULD CLOSE IT. SO THAT IS IN HERE AGAIN. WE CAN CHANGE IT. HOWEVER YOU GUYS LIKE, WE'RE DOING 30 DAYS, IF THAT'S TOO LONG, 15 DAYS OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS PREFER. BUT WE DO HAVE THAT INDICATED IN HERE TRUSTEE BONE. WELL, I JUST HAD ONE MORE THING AND THEN I'LL CONCEDE I'M REALLY WE'RE NOT EVEN IDENTIFYING WHAT THE THRESHOLD WOULD BE LIKE. [05:20:01] ARE THERE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT WOULD WOULD MAKE THIS THING RISE TO AN INVESTIGATION? I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT LIKE OUR OPINIONS. I MEAN, MY OPINION CAN BE DIFFERENT ON MONDAY THAN IT IS ON TUESDAY. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST VERY VAGUE, AND I WOULD REALLY CAUTION ANYBODY THINKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR THE BOARD. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IF YOU CAN HAVE THREE MEMBERS LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION ON YOU. I THINK THIS IS REALLY THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL OF HAVE SOME HAVING SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND I JUST DON'T SEE THE UPSIDE. SO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE STUDYING THIS, I'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT IT BEFORE AND I REMEMBER WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AROUND THIS AND AND I ACTUALLY TRUSTEE WEIR HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD LONGER THAN I HAVE, AND SHE MADE THE COMMENT. THESE THERE'S FEW OF THESE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO THE POINT THAT'S IN CONTENTION. YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. I AGREE WITH YOU. SO MY ABSOLUTE PROPOSAL WOULD BE THAT WE ACTUALLY ALL JUST LOOK AT THAT IT IS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AT THAT POINT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW OF THESE. AND OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY GET TO THAT POINT, THE WHOLE BOARD IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE AN INTEREST. I KNOW WE HAVE LONG AGENDAS, BUT I THINK WE I THINK THAT ACTUALLY TO ME, BECAUSE OF TRUSTEE WEIR'S EXPERIENCE AND WHAT RAQUEL JUST SAID, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE BEST OPTION I DO. I HAVE THE SAME WORRIES THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE THREE AND THEN IF YOU LOOK, IT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT TO THE FULL BOARD. SO I THINK IT SHOULD ALL JUST GO AHEAD AND COME TO A BOARD MEETING. I THINK WE CAN TRY THIS. AND ALSO, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, YEAH, ON THE PINK ONE THAT SAYS THREE OR MORE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY JUST SAY BRING TO A BOARD MEETING. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I'M SURE THERE'S A MOTION IN THE SECOND. I'M SORRY, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER. CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? SORRY. YEAH. OK, SO THERE'S TWO. THERE'S TWO LINES HERE. SO THERE'S ONE WHERE I DETERMINE THE REPORT OR THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE REPORT ARE GOING TO SAY FOR FRIVOLOUS. I WILL SEND IT TO YOU ALL TO REVIEW. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 30 DAYS TO REVIEW. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN CHANGE THAT THAT TIME PERIOD. AND THEN IF I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, I'M GOING TO CLOSE IT. BUT THERE'S THE THIRD ONE WHERE I FEEL FROM MY AUDIT RECOMMENDATION THAT IT DOES NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED. IT'LL COME TO YOU ALL TO THE BOARD AND WHAT I'M HEARING. AND THEN IF YOU GUYS DECIDE YES OR NO, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED OR NOT, IT'LL BE CLOSED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE OK WITH THE FIRST OR I SAY THE SECOND LINE IN HERE. ARE YOU GUYS OK WITH THAT? YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT SECOND LINE FEEDS INTO THE THIRD LINE, RIGHT? THAT, YES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, SO THAT YEAH, BECAUSE IT STILL COMES IN. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. CAN WE MODIFY THE MOTION BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE IT? YOU CAN MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION SO I CAN MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION, SO I WOULD LIKE TO. IS THAT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO PULL IT? YEAH, YOU DID. SO YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION OR SHE CAN MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION. I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW. OK. TRUSTEE BONE. ALL RIGHT. SO I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE PINK BOX THAT SAYS THREE OR MORE BOARD OF TRUSTEES REQUESTS ARE REQUIRED TO INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION TO. I DON'T KNOW SOMEBODY WANT TO HELP ME WORDS TO THE FULL BOARD BRING TO THE FULL BOARD AND. AS DISCUSSED AT A FUTURE REGULAR MEETING OR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. SO THE MOTION I HEARD IS YOU MOVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGES TO CFC LOCAL, AS PRESENTED WITH ONE CHANGE INSTEAD OF THREE OR MORE BOARD OF TRUSTEES REQUIRED TO INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION TO BRING RESOLUTION OR REPORTS TO THE FULL BOARD FOR DECISION ON INVESTIGATION. YES. OK, I'LL SECOND THAT. OK, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, TRUSTEE HARRISON, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON. OK. SHE IS WITHDRAWING HER REQUEST. NOW YOUR BEST BACK ON. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. SEEING NONE, WE PASS SOMETHING 6-0 TONIGHT, I AM SUPER HAPPY. YAY. ALL RIGHT. IT IS TWELVE FORTY ONE. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO GO BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR. DR. AZAIEZ DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE? I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS YET. OK. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THE POINT OF ORDER. YEAH. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME ONE. ARE WE GOING BACK TO TRUSTEE VESSA'S? AT THE END OF THE MEETING. OH, YOU'RE GOING ALL THE WAY EVEN. BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE WAITING HERE TO, LIKE, GET IT PASSED AND THEY PROBABLY MAY GO HOME. SO WE'VE GOT THE DOCUMENT SHE SENT IT TO US. THEN WE NEED TO TAKE A RECESS TO ALLOW TRUSTEES THE OPPORTUNITY. [05:25:01] YEAH, I NEED A RECESS. OK. OK, LET'S RECESS, IT IS TWELVE POINT FORTY TWO. LET'S COME BACK. IT'S 12 FORTY THREE. NOW I'LL GIVE YOU 11 MINUTES, OK TO COME BACK AT TWELVE FIFTY FOUR. APPROXIMATELY. NO, IT IS 12:54. I'D LIKE TO AFFORD TRUSTEE BONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK. I WOULD LIKE TO START ON TIME. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AFFORD HER THE OPPORTUNITY. DID. SO IT IS 12:54 WE ARE BACK IN OPENS BACK IN SESSION. HOW DO I SAY THAT? WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. OK. I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR THREE YEARS, BUT ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE EXACT LANGUAGE YOU HAVE TO USE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK IN. WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU. OK, SO IT IS TWELVE FIFTY FOUR. WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. DID ALL TRUSTEES HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE RESOLUTION? LET ME LET ME BACK IN. ONE THING I WILL NOTE FOR TRUSTEES THE NEXT TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH, IT DOES HAVE A CHANGE THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED FROM THE ORIGINAL POSTED DOCUMENTATION, SO THAT'S WHERE IT GOES INTO ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS. AND AND THEN THAT NEXT INFORMATION WAS OMITTED. SO THE REASON IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS BECAUSE WITH A RESOLUTION, IT'S NORMALLY ONE SENTENCE AND PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS TWO SENTENCES. YEAH, IN THE NEXT TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH, IT STARTS AND IT READS, WHEREAS THE ROUND ROCK ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES WISHES TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL IN THE POSTED DOCUMENT, IT ACTUALLY JUST TALKED ABOUT SPECIFIC STUDENT GROUPS. THAT INFORMATION WAS DELETED AND IT WAS REPLACED WITH LANGUAGE. ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS. I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE OF MORE MINUTES TO READ THE CHANGES, I SEE YOUR LIGHT. TRY AND MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH ME WHEN YOU'RE READY. OK, GREAT. AWESOME. TRUSTEE WESTON. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT, AND IF BECAUSE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS. I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL AND THEN I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. IS THAT OK, PRESIDENT FELLER? ABSOLUTELY. OK, SO NOW IT SAYS, WHEREAS THE ROUND ROCK ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES WISHES TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, RELIGION, SEX, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, DISABILITY, AGE OR POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON. NOW, THEREFORE. BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT ANY GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS WHO PROMOTE HATE, VIOLENCE AND INTOLERANCE ARE REJECTED AND CONDEMNED AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EFFORTS TO ADDRESS, ENGAGE AND LEAD THE DISTRICT IN WAYS THAT PROMOTE A DEEPER, SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF OUR HUMANITY AND COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS AN ENORMOUS IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT. [05:30:02] HOWEVER, WHEN IT SAYS HERE STANDS AGAINST SPEECH THAT INCITES HATRED AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS ANY PERSON, ON THE SURFACE, THAT SOUNDS VERY AGREEABLE, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE DEFINED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND AND THEN THEN THE THE LAST PARAGRAPH THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO PROMOTE HATE. I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ME. BUT EVEN TONIGHT IN CLOSED SESSION, THERE WERE SOME ACCUSATIONS MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DEFINITION OF THAT I THINK MIGHT NOT ENJOY UNIVERSAL SUPPORT. AND YOU KNOW, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY I WORE A UNIFORM FOR MANY YEARS TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO THINK THROUGH IT. AND IT'S ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ENORMOUS IMPROVEMENT THAT THIS IS FROM THE ORIGINAL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR I'LL MOVE. I'LL MOVE TO PUT THIS NEW DRAFT DOCUMENT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JANUARY REGULAR BOARD MEETING TO ALLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE US WITH THEIR FEEDBACK ON THIS DOCUMENT. AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT AT THAT TIME. THAT IS MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT. AND I HAVE ONE ADDITION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON. SORRY, PRESIDENT, SORRY, TRUSTEE WEIR HAD HER LIGHT ON BEFORE YOU OK, SO YOU LET [INAUDIBLE] OH, YOU TWO GO AHEAD! YOU. IT'S VERY. I ACTUALLY DID PUSH IT, BUT OK, OK, IT'S ONE O'CLOCK. THERE IS A LINE IN HERE THAT I THINK WAS ALSO DIVISIVE, AND IT HAS. IT'S STILL IN HERE AND IT'S THE ONE. WHEREAS RECENTLY THERE HAS ARISEN IN THE UNITED STATES AND ROUND ROCK ISD, A GROWING NUMBER OF GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO THREATEN OUR DEMOCRACY BY SEEKING TO INCITE HATRED AND VIOLENCE. I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO GO IN CLOSE, WE CAN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THESE GROUPS ARE AND WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS. I MEAN THAT ONE LINE RIGHT THERE. AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON SAID. TRUSTEE WEIR. IT'S SO LATE, ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT A RESOLUTION IS NOT POLICY. AND SO I MEAN, I'M A LITTLE. IT GRANTED THINKING NOT AT MY BEST AT ONE A.M., BUT YOU KNOW THIS THIS WORRY ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO INTERPRET HATE AND VIOLENCE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY INTERPRETATION THAT COMES FROM A RESOLUTION. THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT POLICY. IT'S THIS IS JUST SAYING FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS. YOU, AS A BOARD OF TRUSTEES WOULD BE THE ONE INTERPRETING THAT, RIGHT, IT'S US, IT'S OUR INTERPRETATION BASICALLY RIGHT? BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE ROUND ROCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND. THAT WAS ALL I THINK I'M NOT EVEN SURE ANYMORE. TRUSTEE HARRISON, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, RIGHT, DOUG? OKAY, THANKS. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THE AMENDED RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND AND INCITE HATRED. I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. WELL, I KIND OF GOT THIS OUT OF ORDER. HOLD ON. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING ACTIONS THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY, INCITE HATRED AS PRESENTED. WE NEED TO SAY AS AMENDED, AS WITH WITH RECOMMENDED CHANGES, WITH RECOMMENDED CHANGES. DOES THAT SUFFICE? MR. PUNIC. CAN YOU CAN YOU JUST STATE THAT? SORRY, IT'S THE VERSION THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED TO EACH OF YOU. THAT'S THE VERSION YOU'RE MOVING TO HAVE APPROVED. CORRECT? YES. YES. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE. I LIKE TRUSTEE WESTON RECOMMENDATION TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD, THIS BOARD REPRESENTS OUR COMMUNITY AND TO [05:35:02] MAKE SOME CHANGES AS SIGNIFICANT AS WE DID. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS DOCUMENT. PERHAPS IT'S THE PROCESS FOR THE WAY IT WAS WAS DONE. THEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED IN ONE FORMAT AND PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GO WITH? WHAT NOT, I'M NOT SURE I LIKE THE DOCUMENT, ESPECIALLY AS IT TALKS ABOUT INTOLERANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE. AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, I'M ENTITLED TO MINE. LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN GET ALONG WITH THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. AND SO THE INTOLERANCE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE'S SIDE IS WHAT IS REALLY, I THINK, DRIVING A WEDGE NOT ONLY IN THIS BOARD, BUT IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAYBE EVEN IN OUR COUNTRY. SO I DO LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF PUTTING THIS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY. THAT BEING SAID, TRUSTEE VESSA, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON. I DID GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I INCORPORATED THE FEEDBACK. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE MOTION ABOUT HATRED AND VIOLENCE. OK, I REALLY SIMPLIFIED IT, AND I FEEL VERY SAD THAT WE'RE SO HESITANT TO CONDEMN HATRED AND VIOLENCE. LIKE, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE JUST WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT BY CONDEMNING HATRED AND VIOLENCE THAT WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S OK WITH THAT. HELLO. WE'RE CONDEMNING HATRED AND VIOLENCE. OK, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE TABLE. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE IT WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN SOLICITED TO THE BOARD ALL IN FAVOR. THREE. ALL OPPOSED. THREE. MOTION FAILS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO BRING IT BACK. AND TRUSTEE WESTON, THEN WE GO BACK TO HER ORIGINAL MOTION, OK, TRUSTEE WESTON HAS MADE A MOTION AND HAS A SECOND TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK AND PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA IN NOVEMBER IN JANUARY. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S FIVE, AND THAT'S SO IT PASSES FIVE-ZERO. THIS MOTION WILL COME BACK IN JANUARY ONCE WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE A LITTLE MORE FEEDBACK ON IT. OK. THAT BEING SAID, NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO CLOSED SESSION. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM P2. PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FIVE. I'M SORRY, CAN WE DO N? OH BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS? MY APOLOGIES. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE TO N1, BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. TRUSTEE WESTON. SO I COULD MAKE A LOT OF ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO LIMIT IT TO THREE THINGS. FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME TONIGHT AND AND SPOKE. I ATTENDED MY FIRST BOARD MEETING THREE YEARS AGO AND CAME TO THE MICROPHONE AND EXPRESSED DISSATISFACTION WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON AND, YOU KNOW, DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE. AND HERE I SIT AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE PEOPLE COME AND EXPRESS ALL KINDS OF OPINIONS. SECOND, VERY GLAD TO SHOW UP TODAY AND SEE THOSE LARGE WOODEN AND PLEXIGLASS DIVIDERS GONE, BECAUSE NOW I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST EASIER TO COMMUNICATE. AND IT'S ALSO MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE REALITY THAT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF EXPERIENCE ON OUR CAMPUSES. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MS. PATTI AGUILERA, OUR BOARD SECRETARY, FOR DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US THIS YEAR. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND IN THE LAST THING, I WANT TO WISH A HAPPY 18TH BIRTHDAY TO MY NUMBER FOUR OF FIVE CHILDREN TONIGHT. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BONE. SURE, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON DECEMBER 25TH, I CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AND I JUST WANTED TO WISH EVERYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS. OK. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. THE CPCOC, WHICH IS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THERE YOU GO IS ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS WE NEED TO TRUSTEES TO SERVE. DO I HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS OF TRUSTEES THAT WANT TO SERVE ON THESE CPCOC? I WOULD. I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE. OK. DO I HAVE ANOTHER TRUSTEE VOLUNTEER FOR THE CPCOC? HOW OFTEN DO THEY MEET? SAY THAT AGAIN. HOW OFTEN DID THEY MEET? [05:40:01] THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH RIGHT? ONCE A MONTH, ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS. THE MEETINGS WILL BE HELD THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. THERE IS MR. LISTER GONE, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT? ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? OK, THANK YOU. YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR IT. TRUSTEE VESSA OK, TRUSTEE WEIR WOULD YOU LIKE TO? IF SO, WE'LL DO AGAIN. OK. NEXT ONE IS I HAVE SERVED AS THE REPRESENTATIVE. THE BOARD REPRESENT. WHAT'S THERE YOU GO FOR THE PARTNERS IN EDUCATION FOUNDATION COMMITTEE, I SERVE ON THEIR BOARD. I DO NOT FEEL THAT I CAN SERVE ON THAT WHILE SERVING AS PRESIDENT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE ARE TRUSTEES INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE PI FOUNDATION BOARD. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT'S INVOLVED AND HOW THAT WORKS? YEAH, IT'S AN AMAZING COMMITTEE. IT IS A WORKING BOARD. THEY MEET 8:00 A.M. ON FRIDAY MORNINGS AND NOT EVERY LIKE ONCE A MONTH. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH FRIDAY IT IS, BUT THEY DO MEET AT 8:00 A.M. ON FRIDAY MORNINGS IN THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. THEY MEETINGS TYPICALLY LAST ABOUT AN HOUR, MAYBE AN HOUR AND 10 MINUTES, BUT IT IS A WORKING BOARD IN THAT YOU'RE EXPECTED TO BE AT THE GOLF TOURNAMENT. THE GALA, THE OTHER FUNDRAISING EVENTS THAT THEY DO TO TO RAISE MONEY FOR OUR STUDENTS. THEY ALSO HELP RUN OUR IT'S ONE 1:10 IN THE MORNING OUR SHOP THAT OUR SOCIAL WORKERS WORK AT. WHAT IS THAT CALLED? AT THE COMMUNITY CLOSET, WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S IT? IS IT COMMUNITY CLOSET THAT OUR SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE ACCESS TO GET RESOURCES FOR, OUR FIT FAMILIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? DR. OK, SO IT'S AN AMAZING ORGANIZATION. THEY ALSO APPROVED SCHOLARSHIPS, TEACHER APPRECIATION, PARTNERS IN EDUCATION GRANTS FOR TEACHERS THAT HAVE SPECIAL INITIATIVES. SO I AM LOOKING FOR A VOLUNTEER OR CAN I SUGGEST THAT YOU GIVE US GIVE PEOPLE TIME THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT TO LOOK IT UP AND WE SEND YOU AN EMAIL? AND THEN IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, YOU CAN JUST DRAW A NAME OR PATTY, YOU CAN DRAW THE NAME. ABSOLUTELY. CAN THAT HAPPEN? CAN WE PUT A TIME STAMP ON IT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A MEETING IN JANUARY. SO LET'S IT'S DECEMBER 17TH. I HATE TO ASK YOU TO DO ANOTHER THING, PATTY, BUT WOULD YOU MIND SENDING OUT AN EMAIL AS A REMINDER THAT ANY TRUSTEES WANTING TO SERVE IF THEY CAN LET US KNOW BY WHEN WE RETURN BACK ON JANUARY THE 5TH AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT THEN AND MAKE A DECISION FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY FOR THE PI FOUNDATION. OK. OK, I HAVE ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN TRUSTEE HARRISON. WE ARE HOSTING SOME JANUARY FORUMS. THEY ARE TUESDAY, JANUARY 11TH. THIS ONE WILL BE OVER THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO TO THREE TRUSTEES TO POST. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO ATTEND, BUT NO MORE THAN THREE. WE ARE NOT POSTING THESE AS OPEN MEETINGS. THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE COMMUNITY FORUMS. SO IF ANY TRUSTEES ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, WE HAVE ONE ON JANUARY 11TH FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE ONE ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 26 FOR THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION COMMUNITY FORUM. INFORMATION WILL BE GOING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AS WELL. BUT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, PLEASE LET PATTI KNOW SO THAT SHE CAN COORDINATE TRUSTEES AND WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF FOUR OR MORE ACCIDENTALLY ATTENDING AND TRUSTEE HARRISON. I'LL BE BRIEF TWO THINGS IF YOU'RE A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND YOU'RE WATCHING AND YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE CPCOC. I AM LATE SORRY PATTI, AND I HAVEN'T TURNED IN MY RECOMMENDATION. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, EVEN IF I DON'T KNOW YOU, PLEASE EMAIL ME AND REACH OUT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO APPOINT SOMEBODY FRESH AND NEW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALREADY INVOLVED. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO. MARK YOUR CALENDARS. JANUARY 15TH IS THE TRADITIONAL ROUND ROCK BLACK HISTORY ORGANIZATION. MLK MARCH AND ROUND ROCK ISD HAS PARTICIPATED IN THAT FOR A GREAT MANY YEARS, AND THE CD FOLKS CHOIR WILL BE PARTICIPATING AND MAYBE ONE OF OUR DRUM LINES. SO THAT'S A THAT'S ALWAYS A FUN UNITING COMMUNITY EVENT. SATURDAY, JANUARY 15TH. PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. THAT'S IT. FABULOUS, DR. AZAIEZ. THANK YOU, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK WE SEND AN UPDATE TO YOU ABOUT THE GUEST EDUCATOR, SO IT'S A GREAT NEWS FOR OUR TEACHERS. I KNOW THIS PAST SEMESTER WE'VE BEEN HAVING A HARD TIME HAVING GUESTS EDUCATORS ACTUALLY SHOWING UP. WE HAVE HIGH ABSENCES AND ALSO LOWER RATE FILLING RATE FOR THOSE ABSENCES. [05:45:02] SO OUR TEACHERS HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS, VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE AND MANY OF THEM BEEN, I GUESS, SUBBING IN THOSE CLASSES. AND SO WHAT WE DEVELOP AS A DISTRICT IS WE WOULD BE ACTUALLY PAYING OUR TEACHERS. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO ENCOURAGE OUR GUEST EDUCATORS TO SHOW UP AND WHENEVER WE HAVE A TEACHER IS OUT. HOWEVER, IF OUR TEACHERS GO TO THE CLASSROOM AND COVER A CLASSROOM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THEY WILL BE COMPENSATED AND WOULD BE PAYING ABOUT $25 AN HOUR FOR FOUR FOR THAT. SO DEPENDING ON. YES. SO IT'S VERY EXCITED FOR OUR TEACHERS THAT WILL BE STARTING IN JANUARY. SO THE PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING OUT, I THINK TODAY, RIGHT? WE SHARE THIS WITH OUR WITH OUR WITH OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. SO SUPER EXCITED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER A TEACHER IS OUT, WE HAVE EITHER A GUEST EDUCATOR OR A CERTIFIED TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM WITH OUR STUDENTS. SO WE'RE AGAIN SUPER EXCITED AND IT'S ALL FOR ALL OUR TEACHERS. SO ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. SO ALL OF THEM DIFFERENT PLANS, BUT THEY WILL GET PAID FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE, I THINK THANKS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS FOR ASKING US TO REALLY WORK HARD ON THE DRESS CODE WILL BE SOME DRESS CODE CHANGES ALSO FOR OUR STUDENTS AND BRINGING MORE EQUITY. AND SO WE'LL BE SHARING THAT THAT NEW DRESS CODE THAT WE SHARE WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS ALREADY. BUT WE'LL BE SHARING WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALSO TODAY, AND IT WILL ALSO TAKE EFFECT STARTING IN JANUARY AS WELL. SO THAT'S TWO THINGS THERE. WE SENT SOME UPDATE ON COVID 19 TODAY AND ALSO THERE'LL BE SOME CHANGES IN THE SECOND SEMESTER, SO A LOT OF POSITIVE CHANGES. HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VIRUS IS ALSO GOING DOWN. I JUST WANT TO ALSO THANK OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY HARD. AND SO I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY WISH THEM A SAFE, A RESTFUL BREAK AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. MERRY CHRISTMAS. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY CELEBRATE AND COME BACK TO WITH US BACK AGAIN IN 2022, WELL RESTED AND REGENERATED TO CONTINUE THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE ENTIRE SEMESTER AND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, RIGHT? WE ALSO WANT TO WISH TO OUR STUDENTS THAT WE WANT THEM TO TAKE A BREAK TO ENJOY, ENJOY THEIR TIME WITH THE WITH THE FAMILY, WITH THE FRIENDS. AND I HOPE THAT ALSO THEY CAN COME BACK TO US SAFE AND BACK REALLY EAGER TO LEARN SOME MORE AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE SECOND SEMESTER. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY STRESSFUL AND, YOU KNOW, HARD FIRST SEMESTER. BUT WITH EVERYBODY'S HELP, I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO OVERCOME IT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SECOND SEMESTER. HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER. SO THANK YOU. OK, NOW I'VE TRIED TO TAKE US IN THE CLOSED SESSION THREE TIMES NOW I THINK WE ARE FINALLY READY TO ENTER BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION. I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS. OK? PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN ONE, THE BOARD WILL CONSULT WITH AN ATTORNEY REGARDING ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, COMMUNICATION AND POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION TO REVIEW POTENTIAL UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES. IT IS 1:17 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION. IT IS 2:11 A.M. WE ARE ITEM Q1, CALL BACK TO ORDER EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT EVEN SURE. OR NEED A DISCUSSION? WELL, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE WERE CONSIDERING A MOTION IN THERE AND THEN. CAN I JUST THROW ONE OUT AND SEE HOW IT GOES? OK, I MOVE TO I GUESS HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT DOCUMENTS OF CONCERN, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. TO EVALUATE WHETHER A FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. I'LL SECOND THAT. I WAS JUST WRITING THIS DOWN. LET ME REPEAT IT. I MOVED TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT CURRENT DOCUMENTS OF CONCERNS, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION TO EVALUATE IF FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS IS WARRANTED. IS THAT CORRECT? TRUSTEE BONE YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION. THAT MOTION, I CAN'T EVEN TALK RIGHT NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ALONG WITH THAT AND AND STATEMENT AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO DO THAT AND INVESTIGATE CONCERNS OF VIOLATION OF TOMA AND OTHER CONCERNS [05:50:09] REGARDING TRUSTEES THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS. I'M FINE WITH DOING THE GETTING, ACTUALLY I WELCOME GETTING AN OPINION ON WHETHER WE VIOLATED THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THIS IS. CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? I'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONCERNS, SO I WOULD LIKE THEM ALL INVESTIGATED. I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW. 15. MAYBE 15, 20 INCIDENCES. AND I WOULD LIKE THE THE MANY CONCERNS THAT CAME OUT OF THE HIRING PROCESS ALSO INVESTIGATED A SECOND. I ALSO HAVE SOME COMMENTS WHENEVER YOU CALL ON ME. UM, TRUSTEE HARRISON. SO WE HAD ALL THAT TIME AND CLOSED TO DISCUSS THIS SINCE IT'S NOT CLEAR WOULD IT BE LIKE WHAT THOSE 15 CONCERNS ARE? I DON'T FEEL RIGHT VOTING ON THAT. MIGHT WE TABLE THIS FOR JANUARY BUT GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE YOU KNOW? SURE, I THINK AMY IS AWARE MOST OF THEM, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE FULL BOARD IS. I'D LIKE TO BE BRIEFED ON YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT THING TO TABLE BECAUSE IT'S LATE AND I THINK THIS IS A BIG DECISION. WELL, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE MY IF WE'RE TAKING OFF THE AMENDMENT, BUT I STILL WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I THINK THE REST OF US MAY BE READY TO VOTE ON MY ORIGINAL MOTION SO WE CAN VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE ORIGINAL. TRUSTEE WESTON. DID YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? YES, GO AHEAD. SO WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE? AND WHAT DOCUMENTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TRUSTEE WESTON EMAILS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD ON NOVEMBER 29TH VIA EMAIL FROM MR. WOOLSTON? OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS? AND THEN I HAVE MORE COMMENTS ONCE I GET THE ANSWER, ONCE I GET THE CLARITY ON WHAT DOCUMENTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS. WELL, I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT THERE'S A THERE WERE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS AND OTHER PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT HAVE SURFACED, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE ARE ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW WHO. AND WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM OTHER THAN HE JUST SAID THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THERE WERE OTHER TRUSTEES WHO HAD DOCUMENTS OF CONCERN THAT SURFACED. AND SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER THAT WE WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT OPINION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE OUR STAFF ATTORNEY. WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT OPINION AS TO WHETHER THOSE ARE PROBLEMATIC AND WHETHER WE SHOULD DO A FURTHER INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THERE'S DEBATE AS TO WHETHER THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC. AND I THINK CLARITY ON THAT ISSUE WOULD IF THEY COME BACK AND WE GET AN INDEPENDENT OPINION AND THEY SAY, HEY, THESE REALLY AREN'T A PROBLEM. SO. YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO ME. I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS HERE. THEN I FEEL LIKE FOR ME PERSONALLY, THEN THAT BASICALLY SAYS, OK. NOT NOT THAT LIKELY, NO. THERE MAY NOT NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER INVESTIGATION, BUT UNTIL WE GET WE HAVE DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHETHER THESE. THESE THESE ARE A PROBLEM. YES. RIGHT. DO I GET AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION? IS MR. WOOLSTON GOING TO BE THE ARBITER OF DECIDING WHAT ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE TIME, ENERGY RESOURCES, MONEY FROM THE STUDENTS OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING TO PURSUE THIS ENDEAVOR, THIS COSTLY TAXPAYER FUNDED INVESTIGATION, WE SHOULD KNOW. IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT DOCUMENTS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE SEVEN OF US SHOULD ALL HAVE COPIES OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHANTOM DOCUMENTS AT THIS. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TWO HUNDRED. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 2000. SO I THINK IT'S A FOLLY ENDEAVOR TO AUTHORIZE THE LAUNCHING OF AN INVESTIGATION FOR DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN PROVIDED. AND I ALSO THINK IT'S FOLLY TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION. APPARENTLY, THERE'S THERE'S GREAT INTEREST IN TRUSTEE WESTON EMAILS FROM THIS BOARD, AND I THINK THAT OBSERVERS CAN DRAW THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE NOT LAUNCHING INVESTIGATIONS ON. WE'RE NOT LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION ON THE ACTIONS OF SOME OF TRUSTEES WHO ARE ON THIS [05:55:02] BOARD TODAY, WHOSE ACTIONS RESULTED IN A $300000 SETTLEMENT. WHERE'S THE INVESTIGATION ON THEM? WHERE'S THE INVESTIGATION ON THE COUNTLESS OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS MADE BY MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED BY THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT? WHERE'S THE INVESTIGATION ON WHY OVER 3000 STUDENTS HAVE FLED ROUND ROCK ISD IN THE LAST TWO YEARS? THAT HAS AN ENORMOUS IMPACT TO OUR BUDGET, WHEREAS THE INVESTIGATION TRUSTEE WESTON. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT THESE CONCERNS IN A EMAIL AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT. WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR ANY OF THIS CONVERSATION. WE'RE ONLY POSTED FOR CONVERSATIONS REGARDING EMAILS INVESTIGATIONS. MAY I MAY FINISH? AN ATTORNEY CLIENT, PRIVILEGE, COMMUNICATION AND POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION TO REVIEW POTENTIAL UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES. WE'RE NOT POSTED TO TALK. RIGHT? WELL, I THINK WHAT'S RELEVANT HERE IS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT INVESTIGATING THAT WE ALREADY KNOW HAVE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FINANCIALLY, WE ALREADY KNOW IT, AND WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT THERE. AND YES.. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT THAT IN AN EMAIL AND THAT WE AS A BOARD CAN DISCUSS THAT ALONG WITH THE 15 OR SO ITEMS THAT TRUSTEE BONE IS TALKING ABOUT. I THINK, OKAY, WELL, WELL, I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS WHOLE INVESTIGATION IS SET UP WITH ITS BEGINNING WITH THE END IN MIND AND AS FAR BACK AS SEPTEMBER FROM CLOSED SESSION, DR. BONE AND I WOULD LEAVE THOSE CLOSED SESSION AND FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION. AND WE ASKED PRESIDENT FORMER PRESIDENT WEIR ABOUT IT, AND SHE ASSURED US, OH NO, THERE'S NO INVESTIGATIONS PLANNED. THERE'S NO INVESTIGATIONS BEING DISCUSSED. IT'S ALL IN VIA EMAIL. SO IT WASN'T UNTIL THE NIGHT OF NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 18TH AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING THAT I WAS EVER FOR THE FIRST TIME PRESENTED WITH ANYTHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY PROBLEMATIC. AND YET THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USING FOR MONTHS IS THAT YOU'VE BEEN COMPILING AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS EVIDENCE AND YOU HAD IT. AND WHEN WE ASKED, ARE YOU HEADED TOWARDS AN INVESTIGATION? WE WERE TOLD REPEATEDLY. NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE ARE NOT HEADED TOWARDS AN INVESTIGATION. SO THIS IS, I BELIEVE, ACTUALLY WHAT YOU ASKED ME WAS, IS THERE AN INVESTIGATION? THE ANSWER WAS NO. UNTIL THIS BODY VOTES, THERE'S NONE RIGHT? AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT. YOU CAN SAY PEOPLE HAVE MADE ACCUSATIONS YOU. THERE WAS NO THERE IS NO INVESTIGATION, THERE STILL IS NO INVESTIGATION. THERE WERE EMAILS THAT WERE DISCOVERED THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME LAST MONTH. BUT THIS BOARD HAS NOT MADE ANY DECISIONS. THERE IS NO INVESTIGATION AND I ACTUALLY CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THE MOTION WAS RIGHT NOW. BUT REALLY, IT IS TO A REVIEW OF THE PROBLEMATIC DOCUMENTS TO DETERMINE IF MORE INFORMATION IS NEEDED. IT IS. IT'S LIKE A FIRST PASS. AND I WOULD SAY TO MARY'S POINT, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR LIST OF ITEMS TO THAT ATTORNEY AND HAVE THAT BE PART OF A FIRST PASS TO DECIDE IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, THEN WE'LL DO. I MEAN, WE COULD DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S NOT THE INVESTIGATION. IT IS HIRING SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT OUR STAFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T TRUST OUR STAFF, YOU DON'T TRUST OUR BOARD COUNSEL. IT'S HIRING SOMEBODY TO COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT THESE DOCUMENTS THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLY AN ISSUE. IF THAT PERSON SAYS NO, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. WE'RE DONE. THERE'S NO INVESTIGATION. IF IF THE PERSON SAYS THERE, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER ISSUES Y'ALL SHOULD LOOK INTO THESE, WE LOOK AT THOSE, I MEAN, I DON'T IT IS NOT THERE. IS THIS GOING TO BE OUR COMMON PRACTICE, THOUGH? I MEAN, WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENCE. I THINK THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN. SO I KNOW YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING MARY TALKING A LOT TONIGHT, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT. ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS EVERY TIME WE FIND A LITTLE ISSUE LIKE? YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIKE ON A I MEAN, WE JUST SAID IT FOR FOR THE AUDITOR. HONESTLY, I MEAN, IF SHE COMES TO US AND SHE BRINGS US AN ISSUE THAT SHE THINKS IS A PROBLEM, THIS BOARD HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I MEAN, WE HAD WE HAD ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT. THAT'S AN ISSUE. IT TRULY IS AN ISSUE AND YOU GUYS BLEW IT OFF. SO I MEAN, TRUSTEE WESTON. I'M ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT WAS IN CLOSED SESSION. BUT THAT IS AN ISSUE. THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS CONFIDENTIAL THAT WAS RELEASED ON FACEBOOK. AND YOU GUYS HAD NO INTEREST IN INVESTIGATING IT, BUT OH, WELL, LET'S LIKE HOP ON THIS WESTON THING. WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR THAT DISCUSSION, BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT BECAUSE THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. NOT AN OPEN AND HE, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK I THINK WHAT I SAID WAS AND ACTUALLY THAT'S TO SAY THAT WE JUST IGNORED IT IS NOT IS NOT TRUE. [06:00:03] IT'S NOT TRUE, BUT THERE'S THIS INVESTIGATION TRUSTEE RECOGNIZE TRUSTEE HARRISON NOW, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IT'S 2:20 IN THE MORNING, SO I THINK WE SHOULD EITHER VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE OR IF THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BRING, WE BRING THEM IN JANUARY AND HAVE A FULLER, MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WHAT THAT FULL SCOPE IS. SO I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO OPTIONS HERE. ARE YOU CALLING THE QUESTION? I MEAN, YES, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION, I GUESS. OK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION IN THE SECOND. I'M GOING TO REWROTE REREAD THE MINIONS A SECOND TO CALL THE QUESTION DO WHAT? I'M GOING TO SECOND HER CALL. THE QUESTION, WHICH MEANS DISCUSSION ENDS. YEP. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO READ WHATEVER THE LAST. YEP, I'M GOING TO READ THE AMENDED MOTION MOVE TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT CURRENT DOCUMENTS OF CONCERN, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION TO EVALUATE IF FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED AND INVESTIGATE VIOLATIONS OF TOMA AND OTHER CONCERNS DURING THE HIRING PROCESS. THAT'S OUR MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. OH, OK. A MOTION FAILS ONE-TWO ONE TWO THREE FOUR ONE TO FOUR. SO WE GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL MOTION. YOU FORGOT TO COUNT YOURSELF. SAY IT AGAIN. ONE TO FIVE. SORRY. YEP. GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL MOTION, MOVED TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT CURRENT DOCUMENTATIONS OF DOCUMENTS OF CONCERN AS DISCLOSED. EXCUSE ME, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION TO EVALUATE IT, FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. ALL IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOUR-TWO. IT IS. WE ARE NOT ACTING ON ITEM R, WE ARE DUE ITEM S ADJOURNMENT, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, IT IS TWO TWENTY FIVE AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.