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SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT TRUSTEE XIAO IS HERE.TRUSTEE VESSA HAS A FAMILY MATTER AND WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THIS EVENING, BUT SHE HAS PROMISED TO WATCH THE VIDEO AND GET CAUGHT UP AND TRUSTEE HARRISON WILL BE LATE.
SHE SHOULD BE HERE IN THE NEXT HOUR.
I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK ON IT, AND SHE JUST WANTED ME TO KEEP TALKING.
IT IS BROADCASTING, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LOUD.
I THINK ONCE WE LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK THAT MICROPHONE, WE'LL SEE IF IT'S ANY BETTER.
SO AT EACH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO. OH, I'M SORRY.
ALL RIGHT. IF I DO THIS, MAYBE IT'LL HELP A LITTLE BIT.
[C. PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA]
AND EACH BOARD MEETING THE BOARD WILL SET ASIDE TIME TO AFFORD THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.WE ASK IT CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS NOT BE RAISED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR FORMER EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, ACCORDING TO APPLICABLE BOARD POLICIES.
THE BOARD REQUESTS THAT COMMENTS, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE AND THE VIEWERS THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE SPEAKERS REFLECT THEIR OWN POSITIONS OR OPINIONS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT RIGHT IS NOT UNLIMITED FOR TEXAS PENAL CODE 38.13, 42.01, 42.02 42.05 AND TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.105 . NO AUDIENCE MEMBER OR SPEAKER WILL BE PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CONDUCT THAT IS DISRUPTIVE OR THREATENING TOWARD ANY SPEAKER OR OTHER PERSON, OR TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF ANOTHER PERSON.
THE BOARD SHALL NOT TOLERATE DISRUPTION OF THE MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
IF AFTER AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL WARNING FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER, AN INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO DISRUPT THE MEETING BY HIS OR HER WORDS OR ACTIONS.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL REMOVED FROM THE MEETING THAT THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS OR ACT UPON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED UNDER THE ACTION ITEM PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
THEREFORE, BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT DISCUSS THE COMMENTS OF SPEAKERS.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT A LACK OF A RESPONSE FROM BOARD MEMBERS DOES NOT INDICATE AGREEMENT OR APPROVAL OF THE COMMENTS.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD MS. FELLER WILL BE THE DESIGNATED TIMEKEEPER.
TO. AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME WHEN I CALL THE NAMES.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MARSHALL SPRIGG.
MR SPRIGG, BEFORE YOU START, COULD YOU JUST TEST THAT MICROPHONE OUT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR. TESTING.
TESTING? IS THAT OK? OK. WELL. ALL RIGHT.
MARSHALL SPRIG AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM D1 ON THE AGENDA, SPECIFICALLY LOCAL POLICY CKE, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH SECURITY PERSONNEL.
I AM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THIS DRAFT POLICY THAT YOU REMOVE ITEMS FIVE AND SIX FROM THIS DRAFT POLICY.
THOSE TWO ITEMS WOULD EXPAND THE AUTHORITY OF THE POLICE TO INCLUDE ENFORCING DISTRICT POLICIES, RULES AND REGULATIONS ON DISTRICT PROPERTY AND SCHOOL ZONES AND AT BUS STOPS OR DISTRICT FUNCTIONS.
IT WOULD ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CUT OUT.
DID THAT MIGHT CUT IT OUT, OKAY? IT WOULD ALSO GIVE THE POLICE AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLATIONS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
THE PREVIOUS BOARD, WHICH VOTED TO CREATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MADE EXPLICIT AND REPEATED ASSURANCES TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE AUTHORITY OF THE POLICE WOULD BE LIMITED TO ENFORCING THE LAW.
THAT'S IT. TOO BAD THAT TRUSTEE HARRISON IS NOT HERE BECAUSE WHEN SHE SERVED ON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE, SHE WAS A VERY VOCAL PROPONENT OF CONCERN IF THE POLICE WOULD EVER BE USED FOR ENFORCING POLICIES AND SO THAT SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'M SURE SHE
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WOULD AGREE. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS AND SLIPPERY SLOPE.AND AS RECENTLY AS APRIL, CHIEF YARBROUGH ASSURED US THAT THE AUTHORITY OF THE POLICE WAS LIMITED TO ENFORCING THE LAW.
SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY IS IMPLEMENTED IN THAT WAY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER. OUR NEXT, IS IT ON, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DENISE RAY.
HI, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS 116 GKA PROHIBITING THE VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDINGS OF DISTRICT EMPLOYEES OR VOLUNTEERS WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT.
IF THE DISTRICT HAS TO HID, THEN THEY WILL HIDE NOTHING.
VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDINGS ARE USEFUL WHEN DOCUMENTING MANY POSITIVE THINGS THAT OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND THEY'RE ALSO USEFUL IN DOCUMENTING EVENTS THAT SERVE TO HOLD UNLAWFUL BEHAVIOR ACCOUNTABLE.
AND BY REMOVING THIS RIGHT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT VIOLATING STATE LAW, AS WELL AS REMOVING ALL TRANSPARENCY FROM WHAT IS HAPPENING ON DISTRICT CAMPUSES.
THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS ENGAGE IN VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE DAY.
SO WHAT WILL BE THE CONSEQUENCE TO THEM? WILL YOU CONFISCATE THOUSANDS OF PHONES OR ARREST THE STUDENTS FOR RECORDING THINGS AND RECORDING THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON INSIDE THE CLASSROOMS? IMPLEMENTING SUCH A POLICY IS NOT ONLY RESTRICTIVE, BUT LACKS TRANSPARENCY.
I POLLED TWO TEENAGERS TODAY TO ASK THEM HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THIS IF IT WAS TO PASS, AND ONE OF THEM SAID THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL.
AND THE OTHER ONES STATED THAT IT MADE HER FEEL UNSAFE THAT IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO HER, THERE WOULD BE NO DOCUMENTATION OF IT.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RENATA SIMMS. GOOD EVENING. RENATA SIMMS, I AM A DISTRICT PARENT OF NINE KIDS, THREE OF THEM GROWN AND GRADUATED FROM ROUND ROCK HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M ASKING THE BOARD TONIGHT TO UM, TO REALLY RECONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS TASB POLICY UPDATE 116 THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE YET ANOTHER VIOLATION OF TEXAS STATE LAW BECAUSE TEXAS IS A ONE PARTY CONSENT REPORTING STATE. SO IT WOULD WOULD BE A A DIFFERENT RULE ON CAMPUS AS IT IS IN THE REST OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
TO US AS PARENTS, IT FEELS LIKE YOU CONTINUE TO WORK HARD TO CREATE YOUR OWN LITTLE EMPIRE FORTIFIED BY YOUR OWN POLICE FORCE, WHOSE POWER YOU ALSO SEEK TO FORTIFY IN TODAY'S POLICY UPDATE.
I'M ASKING YOU TO STOP CIRCLING THE WAGONS BY IMPLEMENTING POLICIES THAT INTIMIDATE, DISCOURAGE ENGAGEMENT AND LIMIT OUR RIGHTS AS PARENTS, FIND A CONSTRUCTIVE ALTERNATIVE TO TASB, ONE THAT HONORS THE CHILD PARENT RELATIONSHIP AS THE PRIMARY ONE IN THIS COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP CALLED PUBLIC SCHOOL.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDA AVILA.
I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? MAY I ASK THE CHAIR TO REQUEST THAT THE SPEAKERS SPEAK MORE WITH MORE VOLUME WHEN THEY COME TO THE MICROPHONE? YES.
AND WE DO HAVE A REQUEST IF YOU CAN SPEAK CLOSELY AND LOUDLY.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK OVER THE SAME TWO ITEMS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED.
ONE, OF COURSE, WAS CKE LOCAL, ABOUT THE POLICE BEING GIVEN A VERY BROAD POWER TO ENFORCE DISTRICT POLICY AND THEN GKA LOCAL, ADDING THE RESTRICTION OF VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING.
I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IT SEEMS LIKE ESPECIALLY WITH DOCUMENT CKE LOCAL, THAT THIS WAS JUST A WHATEVER TASB PUSHED DOWN.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS THE ADMINISTRATION THAT BROUGHT THESE DOCUMENTS TO THE BOARD, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANY DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE.
AND IF IT WAS, THEN I GUESS IT WAS INTENTIONAL THAT WERE TRYING TO OR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING THIS POLICY.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOME POLICE, SOME POLICE STATE KIND OF OVERREACH FOR CKE LOCAL.
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AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU'VE ALREADY IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID THAT ADDING THE RESTRICTION TO VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING GOES AGAINST STATE LAW.JUST REALLY, IT'S A WASTE OF OUR TIME, A WASTE OF YOUR TIME, WASTE OF DISTRICT RESOURCES TO MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COULD GO BACK AND RATHER THAN WASTE THE BOARD'S TIME THAT WE WOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF DUE DILIGENCE AND VETTING OUT SOME OF THESE POLICIES. SO AGAIN, I'D ASK THAT YOU WOULD NOT IMPLEMENT CKE LOCAL AND THEN THAT YOU WOULD NOT IMPLEMENT THE ADDITION OF THE RESTRICTION OF VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ANDY HARRIS.
HI, AT THE RISK OF BEING A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS CKE AND GKA. CKE SEEKS TO GIVE DISTRICT POLICE OFFICERS BROAD POWERS, GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE DISTRICT AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, REGULATIONS AND POLICIES.
THESE RULES AND POLICIES DO NOT HAVE THE FORCE AND EFFECT OF LAW AND HAVE NOT ALWAYS WITHSTOOD THE LEGAL SCRUTINY TO WHICH STATUTES ENACTED BY OUR LEGISLATURE ARE SUBJECTED.
THIS UNFETTERED AUTHORITY GIVEN TO DISTRICT POLICE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO VIOLATE STUDENTS RIGHTS, PLACE UNDUE BURDEN ON OFFICERS AND LEND ITSELF TO A TOTALITARIAN ATMOSPHERE ON CAMPUSES AND FROM WHAT I'M TOLD AT A PRESENTATION AT THE TASB CONFERENCE IN SEPTEMBER.
YOUR CHIEF YARBROUGH DID MENTION A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION IN WHICH SHE WOULD BE ENFORCING DRESS CODE POLICY, SPECIFICALLY A CHILD WITH A HOODIE UP OVER THEIR HEAD.
AND THEN THEY FIGHT BACK AND YOU SUDDENLY ARREST A STUDENT.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF STUFF HAPPEN IN THE DISTRICT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR TO THE STUDENT.
I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO AN OFFICER TO EXPECT THEM TO DO THAT.
GKA WOULD RESTRICT VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING OF SCHOOL STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH TEXAS'S CURRENT RULES ABOUT CONSENTING TO RECORDINGS.
WE'VE SEEN IN THE MEDIA THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A STUDENT'S ABILITY TO RECORD EVENTS HAPPENING AT SCHOOL IS THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE THAT WRONGDOING HAS OCCURRED IN CLASSROOMS. TEXANS ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE PHOTOS OR VIDEOS OF ANYONE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY WITH OR WITHOUT PERMISSION, AND THERE ARE REASONS THAT THESE PROTECTIONS EXIST.
I'M ALSO KIND OF REMINDED OF SOMETHING THAT APPARENTLY OR ALLEGEDLY HAPPENED IN DONNA ISD, WHERE A A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TOOK A PICTURE OF OUR SUPERINTENDENT WHEN HE WAS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY AND THEN WAS GIVEN A RESTRAINING ORDER.
I FEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
I URGE THE BOARD TO REJECT THESE TASB POLICY UPDATES AND REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAWS. OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RICKY NELSON.
I STAND UP HERE WEARING THE SHIRT.
LITTLE LESS THAN THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD A MASSIVE SHOOTING AT OUR SCHOOL AND MY CHILDREN SURVIVED THIS, AND THE REASON WHY IT HAPPENED WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN SRO WELL WE HAD ONE, BUT HE HID BEHIND A COLUMN.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DIRECT POLICIES ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO BE HANDLED.
I FEAR BY ENACTING THIS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX, YOU TAKE AWAY FROM WHY WE HAVE AN SRO, WHY WE OR I'VE EVEN SAID THAT WE NEED THIS.
WE WERE TOLD TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THE SRO UNDER STATE LAW THAT THEY WOULD ONLY ADDRESS PENAL CODE. MY FEAR IS EXACTLY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE FEARING THAT THINGS WILL BE USED AND ABUSED.
NO ONE PERSON, NO SUPERINTENDENT AT ANY SCHOOL SHOULD HAVE A SAY OVER WHAT GETS ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE ALSO SHOULD BE A COMMITTEE OVERSIGHT, SOME KIND OF OVERSIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED, THE MISDEMEANORS THAT WERE FILED, THAT WAS UNJUST.
IT WAS UNCALLED FOR. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO ARREST PEOPLE FOR SPEAKING OUT FOR SHOWING UP, THEN WHAT MAKES ME THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CITE PEOPLE AND ARREST THEM FOR SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE? MAYBE YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING THEY SAY, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO. THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT ONLY DIRECT THE CHIEF OR AN OFFICER TO INVESTIGATE, IT JUST OPENS UP THIS DISTRICT TO DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, THAT IS NOT WHAT THE SRO PROGRAM IS FOR.
AND I'M SICKENED THAT THIS WOULD EVEN COME ON THE AGENDA WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY FROM EVERY REASON WHY THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE HERE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.
THEY ARE NOT HERE TO DO THE CAMPUS'S JOB PERIOD.
AND IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, THEN THE CAMPUS HAS A PROBLEM.
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I WALKED ONTO THIS CAMPUS UNFETTERED AT FOUR O'CLOCK TWO WEEKS AGO.NOT ONE PERSON STOPPED ME THROUGH THE 100 BUILDING, NOT ONE PERSON, AND IT WAS [INAUDIBLE] OFF BY PRINCIPAL GROFF TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING TODAY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MS. STRONG. I ALWAYS MISPRONOUNCED YOUR FIRST NAME, AND I APOLOGIZE, SO.
SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS REGARDING THE POLICY CHANGES THAT THE BOARD IS PROPOSING TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX, WHICH GIVES THE DISTRICT POLICE POWER TO ENFORCE DOMESTIC POLICIES.
GKA, A DISTANT POLICY THAT PROHIBITS VIDEO OR AUDIO RECORDING OF A DISTRICT EMPLOYEE OR VOLUNTEER WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT OF THE EMPLOYEE OR VOLUNTEER.
SO THIS ISN'T CONTRARY TO TEXAS LAW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE THAT IN TEXAS, AS LONG AS YOU ARE A PARTICIPANT TO A CONVERSATION, YOU CAN RECALL THE VIDEO OR AUDIO, WHETHER THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS IT OR NOT.
AS LONG AS YOU DON'T, THE PERSON RECORDING KNOWS THAT YOU ARE RECORDING.
UM. OH, AND ON PUBLIC PROPERTIES LIKE OUR SCHOOL, IT'S A PUBLIC PROPERTY, WE ALL PAY TAXES FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THIS SCHOOL, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECORD ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON UNLESS IT'S A STUDENT, A MINOR.
SO FIRST YOU GIVE YOURSELF THE POWER TO ENFORCE YOUR POLICIES AND THEN YOU GO AND CREATE POLICIES THAT ARE UNLAWFUL, FOR EXAMPLE, GKE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND PARENTS OUT THERE? SO THIS DISTRICT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH ANY POLICIES THAT THEY WANT TO COME UP WITH LAWFUL OR NOT.
AND THESE POOR POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE TO ENFORCE THEM.
AT THE DIRECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND YOU CAN'T RECORD HIM IF THEY DO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE. DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR TO YOU, DR.
XIAO? THIS IS AWFULLY FAMILIAR TO ME FROM WHERE I CAME FROM IN COMMUNIST VIETNAM.
AND FOR SURE FOR YOU IF COMMUNIST CHINA, BECAUSE IN COMMUNIST VIETNAM, IN CHINA, THEY USED THE POLICE FORCE TO INTIMIDATE CITIZENS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CALL ONE MORE TIME FOR LINDA AVILA.
ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARSHA STRICKLER.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN INCREASE? I KNOW I CAN'T HEAR IT ALL, REALLY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR THE SPEAKERS, BUT IT'S REAL FAINT AND I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VOLUME.
OK, WILL YOU ASK THEM TO GET THE VIRTUAL? BECAUSE IF THESE TWO AREN'T HERE, THEY WERE THE LAST TWO IN-PERSON.
MY NAME IS ANDY HARRIS, I BELIEVE WHAT WAS CALLED ALREADY WAS A LITTLE LATE, SO I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK AT THE END. IF YOU COULD SQUEEZE ME IN.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GO RIGHT NOW, GO.
LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE WERE AT THE GYMNASIUM AND SO I HAD TO MAKE THE WALK.
I'M A PARENT OF THREE CARAWAY ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.
I HAVE SEEN MANY OF YOU THREE OR FOUR TIMES NOW ABOUT THE BOND PACKAGE, AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO RECONSIDER IT, DETERMINE THE BEST NEEDS FOR CARAWAY, THE FAMILIES, THE STAFF, THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY'VE TAKEN A SECOND LOOK AT IT AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN PLACE.
WHAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT IS A PACKAGE THAT WE AND I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF DOZENS OF CARAWAY FAMILIES, SOMETHING THAT WE APPROVE ONTO THE STAFF.
THE ADMINISTRATION APPROVED THIS PLAN.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW SINCE WE APPROVED IT OR SINCE WE GOT THE MONEY FROM THE VOTERS TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
OUR DAUGHTER WAS IN FIRST GRADE WHEN THIS WAS VOTED ON.
SHE'LL BE A FIFTH GRADER NEXT YEAR.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER ACTUALLY GET TO SEE SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS NEW PACKAGE.
SO WE COME HERE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THE CARAWAY BOND, THE NEW AND REVISED CARAWAY BOND PROGRAM. THANK YOU. LINDA AVILA.
AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.
GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF D1 ARE DANGEROUS FOR OUR
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CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY MINORITY CHILDREN AND US AND GIRLS.NOW, THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO MY CASE, FACT ONE, DR.
AZIZ HAS A RESTRAINING ORDER ISSUED BY TRAVIS COUNTY.
IT NEEDS TO STICK TO THE POLICY.
SO THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE D1 IS DANGEROUS.
SO THE RESTRAINING ORDERS FOR CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER OF FAMILY VIOLENCE.
FACT TWO, HE'S ALREADY SHOWN THAT HE USES A POLICE BY ARRESTING TWO DADS FOR DISAGREEING WITH HIS SEATING LIMITS AND LACK OF OPEN BUDGET DISCUSSION.
FACT THREE, ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE REPORT AND AN HOUR UNDER HIS DIRECTION AND CONTROL.
IF THOSE THREE FACTS DON'T SCARE YOU, YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
NOW, THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THE POWER TO DIRECTLY POLICE OUR CHILDREN BY ENFORCING SCHOOL POLICIES SO A SCHOOL POLICY TO ME WOULD BE A DRESS CODE.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE POLICING THAT? MASKS, ARE THEY GOING TO POLICE THAT? I DON'T WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT ADDRESSING CHILDREN.
THEY ALREADY FEEL INTIMIDATED BY SOME TEACHERS AND SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
TO ADD THAT SCARE TACTIC TO THEM ISN'T FAIR.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE TO JUST ENFORCE THE PENAL CODE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, OUR FIRST VIRTUAL SPEAKER IS MINA MCNAIRY.
HEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OK? NO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOW.
I'LL TRY MY BEST. HEY, MY NAME IS MINA AND CAN YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND BECAUSE WE CANNOT YOU BARELY AT ALL.
ALRIGHT MS. MCNAIR, CAN YOU TRY AGAIN? YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, IT'S BETTER.
YEAH, I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT THE POLICE POLICY, BUT I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE POLICE POLICY THROUGH A LENS OF RACIAL AND EDUCATIONAL EQUITY.
ROUND ROCK ISD HAS AN ISSUE WITH INEQUITABLE PRACTICES IN EDUCATION AND DISCIPLINE.
DURING THE 18-19 SCHOOL YEAR, BLACK STUDENTS MADE UP NINE PERCENT OF THE DISTRICT AND TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE ARRESTS.
ALTHOUGH THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS STATED THEY WILL TRY TO BE FAIR IN THEIR PRACTICES, THESE NUMBERS SHOULD LEAVE US GREATLY CONCERNED.
SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MADE UP OF PARENTS, STUDENTS, TEACHERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE MUST BEGIN TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT AND ENSURE THE FAIR TREATMENT OF OUR BLACK, BROWN [INAUDIBLE] AND LGBTQIA STUDENTS BY ENSURING THAT ANY ARRESTS MADE BY THE POLICE WARRANTS SUCH ACTION AND THAT CAN ONLY BE UPHELD BY AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT KEPPLER.
MR. KEPPLER, ARE YOU ONLINE? HE'S NOT ON. OK.
HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI, MY NAME IS KRISTA SHEFFIELD.
I'M THE CURRENT PTA PRESIDENT OF CARAWAY ELEMENTARY AND I WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION PLAN FOR CARAWAY.
MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT OUR SCHOOL IS YET TO SEE PROGRESS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT PASSED IN THE BOND THREE YEARS AGO.
OUR COMMUNITY VOTED IN THE 2018 ELECTION FOR THESE ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL.
AND YET THE BOARD HAS UP TO THIS POINT, CHOSEN TO POSTPONE THE START DATE DUE TO CONTRACTOR OR BUDGETARY REASONS.
EVERY YEAR THAT PASSES, INFLATION IS INCREASING THE COST OF OUR NEEDED CONSTRUCTION, AND EVERY YEAR THAT YOU WAIT, THE NEEDS OF OUR CHILDREN CONTINUE TO GO UNMET.
I URGE THE TRUSTEES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN PROPOSED BY THE DISTRICT AND IN DOING SO, MAINTAIN THE TRUST OF ITS WESTWOOD LEARNING CONSTITUENTS BY UPHOLDING ITS PROMISES.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROB [INAUDIBLE].
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HELLO, I'M HERE SPEAKING TODAY ABOUT THE D1, CKE LOCAL, AND I THINK IT GIVES THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT WAY TOO MUCH POWER AND AUTHORITY TO SILENCE NOT ONLY STUDENTS BUT PARENTS, AND THE FACT THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS CONTINUALLY SHOWN THAT HE PREFERS TO USE THE ISD POLICE AS HIS OWN.UH, PEOPLE THAT CARRY OUT WHAT HE WANTS AND ARREST PARENTS FOR DISAGREEING WITH THINGS THAT THE BOARD DOES.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK TO DISBAND THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT ALTOGETHER AND ALLOW THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT SURROUND THE SCHOOLS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS AND PROVIDE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AS NEEDED.
I WENT TO A SCHOOL IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, THAT WAS FULL OF GANGS AND FULL OF DRUGS, AND WE NEVER HAD ANY POLICE ON CAMPUS AND THERE WAS NEVER AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO I THINK GETTING RID OF THE WHOLE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ALL RIGHT, OUR LAST SPEAKER IS ORLANDO SALINAS.
GOOD EVENING. ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME OK? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK A LITTLE LONGER THAN ONE MINUTE. I DO APPRECIATE THAT COURTESY.
I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED BY MANY OF THE PARENTS TODAY WITH REGARD TO CKE D1, WITH THE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I BELIEVE PERSONALLY, AS AN ADVOCATE OF THE THIN BLUE LINE, THAT THEY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE PENAL CODE.
I FAILED TO RECALL ANY INSTANCE IN WHICH AUTONOMY WAS RELINQUISHED BY THE POPULATION FROM THE GOVERNMENT IN WHICH IT WAS LATER RESTORED.
AND SO I FEAR THAT IF WE GIVE, IF WE GIVE THIS AND ALLOW US SUPERINTENDENT TO INVESTIGATE ANY BOARD POLICY HE SO CHOOSES.
WE WALK DOWN A VERY DANGEROUS PATH.
WITH THAT SAID, I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON LAST BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 21ST.
THE STATISTICS FOR THE DISTRICT WERE PUBLISHED AND THE THIRD GRADE MATH SCORES.
OR ARE THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK ON THIRD GRADE SCORES, THAT WOULD BE SATURDAY, PLEASE? OK, WELL, I WILL SAY THAT A 19 PERCENT PASS RATE FOR BLACKS AND A 20 PERCENT PASS RATE FOR HISPANICS. THANK YOU SIR, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON SATURDAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT WE ARE ONLY TAKING COMMENTS ON THIS CURRENT AGENDA.
BUT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME SATURDAY MORNING AND GIVE US COMMENTS ON THIRD GRADE READING AND MATH BECAUSE WE WILL BE DOING BOARD GOALS ON SATURDAY.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER D1? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT'S A NO THEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER.
[D. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, FOR EVERYONE THAT'S HERE, ALL OF OUR ITEMS, ARE DISCUSSION ONLY.IT'S A FIRST READING FOR A POLICY.
WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY OF THESE BEFORE TODAY.
IT'S ALSO A PRESENTATION ON ALL THE PROJECTS AND WE WILL ACTUALLY DO THE VOTING ON THEM AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON THE 18TH.
OUR BOARD COUNCIL, NOT OUR BOARD COUNCIL, OUR DISTRICT COUNCIL MS. MCPHEETERS IS NOT HERE.
SHE IS ON HER WAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP TO D3 SINCE MR. WORCESTER IS HERE.
PRESIDENT WEIR AND TRUSTEES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO COME TO YOU TONIGHT. WE HAVE SOME, SOME EXCITING THINGS TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT AND SOME VERY GOOD DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO FIRST THINK SEVERAL OF MY ADMINISTRATIVE COLLEAGUES TO BE HERE TO TO BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SUPPORT THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT.
I CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OH, GOD. I'M GOING TO MOVE IT CLOSER, OK? AND SO WE'LL WE'LL FIRST BEGIN IN WHY I SEE THAT THE PRESENTATION IS ON SCREEN.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING ON ON THE THE TOPIC, THE
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FIRST TOPIC IN REGARDS TO THE STATUS OF THE FINANCIAL POSITION OF THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THE BOND.AND THAT IS SITTING HERE TO MY RIGHT IS MR. BEN HENSON.
BEN IS THE HPM WESTON REGIONAL OPERATIONS MANAGER.
HE WORKS AS AN EXECUTIVE WITH THE DISTRICT AND MYSELF, ALONG WITH GREG ELLIS, WHO WAS GOING TO BE HERE BUT HAS A MEDICAL SITUATION THAT PRECLUDED HIM FROM BEING HERE.
AND GREG IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT FOR HPM.
AND THIRDLY, JESSICA MORRIS, JESSICA LIVES LOCALLY HERE AND ACTUALLY HER SON IS PLAYING FOOTBALL RIGHT BEHIND US.
AND SO I GAVE JESSICA A PASS TO TO GO WATCH HER SON PLAY FOOTBALL.
AND SO JESSICA IS OUR CONTROLS MANAGER.
SHE IS A PROJECT CONTROLS MANAGER HERE IN THE DISTRICT AND SO WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH US DIRECTLY AND OTHERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT ON PROJECT MANAGEMENT. AND SO AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT HPM IS OUR OUR BOND CONSULTANT. IF WE DEFINE IT AS SUCH THAT THEY ARE TASKED WITH THIRD PARTY CONTROLS OF ALL FINANCIAL MOVEMENTS AND OVERSIGHT OF THE BOND PROJECTS.
AND SO WE REST MUCH RESPONSIBILITY TO THEM TO THIRD PARTY WATCH THE FINANCIAL MOVEMENTS OF THE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THEY AUGMENT OUR STAFF IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT, FIELD PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND NORMAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO BEN.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OK? OK, GREAT. THANK YOU PRESIDENT WEIR AND TRUSTEES FOR LETTING ME BE HERE THIS EVENING.
IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE FIRST SLIDE WITH INFORMATION ON IT, HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU. JUST TO START OFF WITH A RECAP OF THE 2018 BOND PROGRAM, THE 2018 BOND PROGRAM IS COMPRISED OF 199 PROJECTS WITH A VALUE OF 508 MILLION, FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I'M HERE TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY TO SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF MANAGED PROJECTS AND THAT PORTION OF THE PROGRAM.
IT IS COMPRISED OF 170 PROJECTS WORTH ROUGHLY NOT ROUGHLY, EXACTLY FOUR HUNDRED AND FIVE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS.
I BELIEVE IT IS THE INTENT OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO BRING THE TECHNOLOGY MANAGED PROJECTS AND THE BUS PURCHASE PROJECTS TO A WORK SESSION AT A LATER DATE.
AS OF THE SEPTEMBER 30TH FINANCIAL REPORT, 91 OF THE 170 PROJECTS HAVE REACHED A STAGE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
THESE PROJECTS TOUCHED 37 CAMPUSES ON WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THE. WELL, TOTAL APPROVED FUNDING FOR THESE FOR THESE PROJECTS CAME PRINCIPALLY FROM THE 2018 BOND.
I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT HITTING THE MICROPHONE EVERY TIME, BUT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD TO BE INCLUDED WITH THIS COHORT OF PROJECTS.
APPROXIMATELY ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS WERE APPROVED FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT CAME FROM THE 2008 AND 2014 SURPLUS BOND FUNDS. AND IN AGGREGATE, THAT TAKES TOTAL FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS TO 120 MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT DOLLARS.
FOR THESE PROJECTS, WE ARE CURRENTLY PROJECTING A SURPLUS OF TWELVE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS.
SOME PROJECTS HAVE WHILE THEY'VE REACHED FINANCIAL OR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, THEY'RE STILL UNDERGOING THE AUDIT PROCESS AND GETTING THE FINAL DOLLARS ACCOUNTED FOR.
BUT WE DON'T EXPECT A SUBSTANTIAL MOVEMENT FROM WHAT YOU SEE HERE TONIGHT.
IN THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, IT INCLUDES ONE NEW SCHOOL, WHICH WAS REDBUD ELEMENTARY, ONE SCHOOL EDITION AT HERNANDEZ.
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15 WELLNESS PROJECTS, SIX ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS, AND THEN A HOST OF OTHER UPGRADES AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE TYPE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.LIKE I SAID, AT 37 CAMPUSES ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
GIVE ME THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY HAS 23 ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WHICH WILL BE MAJORITY COMPLETE BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.
THERE ARE, OR THERE WILL BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES BEYOND THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO PHASED CONSTRUCTION AND COORDINATION WITH ONGOING CAMPUS OPERATIONS AND PROJECTS THAT CAN ONLY BE EXECUTED WHEN SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION.
FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT ON THESE 23 PROJECTS.
AGAIN, THE 2018 BOND FUNDING FOR THIS COHORT OF PROJECTS WAS TWO HUNDRED AND NINETEEN MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND AND NINETEEN DOLLARS.
ADDITIONALLY, AGAIN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AT A PRIOR BOARD MEETING, THERE WERE WAS AN ALLOCATION FROM 2014 SURPLUS BOND FUNDS OF SEVEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR DOLLARS.
AND AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE PROJECTING A SURPLUS OF FUNDS OF $8.3 MILLION FOR THIS GROUP OF PROJECTS.
PICTURED HERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE ONGOING MARQUEE TYPE PROJECTS, THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN CONSTRUCTION ON THE LEFT IS CD FULKES MIDDLE SCHOOL.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS SCHEDULED FOR A JULY 2022 COMPLETION FOR THE NEW SCHOOL BUILDING CLASSROOM BUILDING, WITH THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX COMPLETING IN MARCH OF 2023.
ON THE RIGHT IS THE AQUATIC CENTER.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS SCHEDULED FOR A LATE MARCH EARLY APRIL SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
THE OTHER TWO MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW ARE WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL.
THE CLASSROOM EDITION IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR AND THEN THE WITH FINAL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE PROJECT ON THE RIGHT.
I'M SORRY IF YOU STEP BACK AND GO A LITTLE SLOW MCNEIL HIGH SCHOOL, IT IS PRINCIPALLY MADE UP OF THE REMAINING WORK IS THE SCIENCE EDITION, BOYS LOCKER ROOM AND SOME OTHER INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, AND IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION OF APRIL 2022.
SO THE REMAINING PROJECTS OF WHICH THERE ARE 56 THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT HAVE NOT STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
A MAJORITY OF THESE 50 PLUS ARE IN DESIGN OR IN IMMINENT READY TO START CONSTRUCTION.
THE BOND TARGET FOR THESE 56 PROJECTS IS 66 MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FIVE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE REST OF THIS ANALYSIS.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE JUST TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE MATH, AND I KNOW IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE BIT WONKY BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWNS CURRENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE WITH WHERE WE ARE ON 55 OF THE 56 PROJECTS WE HAVE FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR VARIOUS CALCULATION TAKEN OUT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL FROM THE ANALYSIS, EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL HAS SPENT APPROXIMATELY A MILLION OR MILLION HALF DOLLARS ON THAT PROJECT.
AND IF WE AND TO COMPLETE WHAT WAS THE SCOPE FOR THE BOND WORK AND IF WE LEFT THIS IN HERE, IT WOULD SKEW THE NUMBERS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TO CONSIDER WE'RE TAKING THAT OUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE MORE? SORRY THAT TRUSTEE FELLER HERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN ONE MORE TIME YOUR MATH ON EARLY COLLEGE? YES, SO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, THE WORK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE AS PART OF
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THE BOND PROGRAM, WAS TO PROCURE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, PERFORM PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND WORK WITH A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRM, UP TO THE POINT OF IDENTIFYING THE COST OF THE PROJECT. AND BECAUSE THERE ARE CURRENTLY THE PROCUREMENT OF THE LAND, IS CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS OF WITH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK OUT.SO WE ARE CONSIDERING IT KIND OF AN UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT.
IF IT WORKS OUT, YOU GET ONE VERSION OF THE STORY, OBVIOUSLY.
AND AND IF FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO TERMS WITH ASEC THEN AND ARE FORCED TO PROCURE A PIECE OF LAND, THEN THE COST MODEL IS VERY DIFFERENT.
SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO AGAIN IS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN AND REMOVE THAT BIG PIECE OF UNKNOWN OUT OF THE EQUATION, SINCE IT'S ONLY ONE PROJECT AND PROVIDE YOU THE THE THE OUTCOME OR THE PROJECTED OUTCOME FOR THE OTHER 55 PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T STARTED.
SO IF YOU REMOVE THAT PIECE OF THE EQUATION, EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL, OUR PROJECTED VARIANTS IN THIS CASE IS A DEFICIT OF ELEVEN MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SIXTEEN DOLLARS.
SO AGAIN, IF WE'D LEFT THE EARLY COLLEGE NUMBERS IN HERE, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY SHOWING A BIG SURPLUS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT ACHIEVE, IT WOULD HAVE SKEWED THIS NUMBER.
SO IF YOU COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT THIS NEXT SLIDE PROVIDES THE OVERALL SUMMARY OF THE THREE GROUPS OF PROJECTS THAT I DESCRIBE TONIGHT, THE ONES THAT ARE COMPLETED, THE ONES THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION AND THE ONES THAT ARE REMAINING AND THAT CURRENT WE ARE PROJECTING A A SURPLUS.
I'M SORRY, A SURPLUS OF NINE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ONE DOLLARS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS REFLECTS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, BOTH IN TERMS OF OPTIMIZING OUR COSTS, VALUE ENGINEERING AND MANAGING THE FINANCIALS OF THE OF THE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THEY'RE I GUESS, LET ME SAY THAT A DIFFERENT WAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE END OF THE PREPARED INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
DANIELLE WESTON. CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE FIVE FIRST? YOU MADE A COMMENT HERE THAT THE ITEMS ON THE RIGHT.
YOU SAID THIS IS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? YES, THAT'S A TERM THAT WE USE FOR PROJECTS OR FOR THINGS LIKE ROOF REPLACEMENTS, WINDOW REPLACEMENTS, HVAC REPLACEMENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, CHANGING FILTERS AND RE-CAULKING WINDOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST A TERM TO CAPTURE THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE AT PERIODS OVER THE LIFE CYCLE OF A BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGET.
WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS PART OF OUR BUDGET.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT BOND MONEY WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE.
MR. WORCESTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS ON THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION TRUSTEE WESTON.
WHEN WE WIN, LET'S BACK UP THE AND UNPACK THE VOCABULARY OF DEFERRED [INAUDIBLE] VERSUS A BOND WORK.
AND SO THE FOCUS OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE BOND DESCRIPTION, THEY'RE CONSIDERED A RENEWAL AND RENOVATION R&R, AND THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY WAS WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
AND SO TYPICALLY YOUR MAINTENANCE WILL WORK ON DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S DEFERRED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PROBABLY MORE ACCURATELY IN VOCABULARY WHERE THE ELECTRICAL PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE OUR ELECTRICAL PANELS THAT HAVE JUST TIMED OUT OF SERVICE ENTRY SECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND REFRESHED, AND OR FLOORING PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY CARPET AND TILE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
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IT'S NOT THAT IT'S IT'S POORLY MAINTAINED, IT'S BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO SAME WAY WITH HVAC PROJECTS, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE HVAC IS THAT AS WE TALKED WITH IN THE THE CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE, IS THAT THE REFRIGERANT CAN AND I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SAY A NUMBER AND MR. HOTABECK WILL TELL ME I'M RIGHT OR WRONG.BUT WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITHIN THAT THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD 44 CAMPUSES WITH R-22 REFRIGERANT IN OUR HVAC.
AND SO AGAIN, THE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF REPLACING THOSE THESE IS YOU CAN BASICALLY DEFINE THAT WE DEFER THE MAINTENANCE OF REPLACEMENT OF THOSE HVAC UNITS ON THOSE BECAUSE THE REFRIGERANT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO USE IN OUR SYSTEMS. AND SO THINK OF THIS NOT IN A VOCABULARY WAY, IS THAT THESE ARE BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE ARE TIMED OUT AND NEED TO BE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM THAT POINT.
I APPRECIATE THAT. OUR ONE OF OUR ROLES IS OBVIOUSLY EXERCISING OVERSIGHT AND MAKING SURE THAT MONIES ARE SPENT IN THE RIGHT PLACES AND ON THE RIGHT THINGS.
SO I GUESS I'D MAYBE LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT MAINTENANCE ITEMS HERE, BUT AND WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BUDGET.
THE I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE SEEKING MORE CLARITY ON THAT, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE BECAUSE I THINK WE MAY HAVE, I MAY HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING TONIGHT.
SLIDE NINE I THINK I REALLY NEED SOME CLARITY ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. MR. HENSON, I THINK YOU SAID WE'VE SPENT ONE OR $2 MILLION AND THEN YOU MADE A COMMENT IF WE COME TO TERMS WITH ACC.
SO CAN WE REALLY GET SOME CLARITY FOR US AND FOR OUR STAKEHOLDERS ON WHAT IS GOING ON THERE? WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS? ARE THERE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE? ARE THERE SOME BARRIERS TO PROGRESS? COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE? I'LL DO SO. YEAH, I'LL DO SO.
IN FACT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PRESENTATION ON EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL FOLLOWING THIS DISCUSSION, AND MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU'RE PROBABLY CURIOUS ABOUT WILL BE SURFACED AT THAT POINT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS MR. WORCESTER, SO IF WE WANT TO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT SLIDE AND CARAWAY, KATHY CARAWAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND I WON'T REGALE YOU WITH THE HISTORY THAT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH. IT'S GONE THROUGH QUITE A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN HISTORY, BOUNDARY CHANGES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN REGARDS TO KATHY CARAWAY IS THAT ORIGINALLY THE I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE BOND SCHEDULE, THE BOND PROGRAM CALLED FOR THE ADDITION OF EIGHT CLASSROOMS. AND WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A NEED TO REPLACE PORTABLE CLASSROOMS AT CARAWAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THEN, FOLLOWING THE THE BOND CALL AND THE I GUESS, THE INCLUSION OF THAT ADDITION OF EIGHT CLASSROOMS, THE BOUNDARIES CHANGED THERE AT CARAWAY, IF YOU RECALL.
AND AND SO THERE ARE LESS STUDENTS THERE.
AND SO WE HAD MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE FOLLOW THE BONDS BOND PROGRAM OR DO WE DEVIATE.
AND OF COURSE, AT THE TIME WE WERE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION IS THAT DO WE DEVIATE? AND HOW SO? AND SO WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE ARE NOW PREPARED TO BRING TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HERE IN A FEW WEEKS IN A CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT DEVIATION, WHICH HAS, AS YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, GAINED SUPPORT, PUBLIC AND CONSTITUENTS SUPPORT, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT.
AND SO THAT DEVIATION FROM THE BOND SCOPE, THE PROGRAM SCOPE IS TO OMIT THE EIGHT CLASSROOM ADDITION.
AND BY THE A MOTION OF THAT EIGHT CLASSROOM ADDITION, THEN TO FOCUS BACK INTO THE THE EXISTING BUILDING AND RE, I GUESS REFORM THE ADMINISTRATION AREA AND ADD SOME CLASSROOMS FROM THAT RE FORMATION.
AND WHEN I SAY ADD, IT'S TO CHANGE SPACE FROM THAT POINT IS THAT THERE ARE CLASSROOMS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON THE OUTSIDE OR THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO TRADE SPACE, PUT THE NEW ADMINISTRATION TO THE OUTSIDE, IMPROVE
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THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ENTRY TO THAT SCHOOL, WHICH IS WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.THERE'S CURRENTLY TWO ENTRIES INTO THAT OR ENTRANCES INTO THAT FACILITY AND BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE AND THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT AND THE ACCESS TO IT.
AND THEN WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION SPACE IS NOW, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONVERTED TO CLASSROOMS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING.
AND THAT IS NOT TO CHANGE THE ENVELOPE OF THE SCHOOL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OR THE ENVELOPE OF THE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND THEN THE REST IS ACTUALLY THE BOND SCOPE.
NOW, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED WITH THE DIFFERENT DETAILS OF CARAWAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CARAWAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OBVIOUSLY IS A AN OLDER I SAY THAT RESPECTFULLY, AN OLDER, WELL-KEPT, BELOVED CAMPUS AND IT IS IN THE HEART OF CITY OF AUSTIN, IN THE NORTHWEST AREA.
TREES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT WHEN THAT WAS BUILT, THAT FACILITY OBVIOUSLY HAD DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS IN REGARDS TO SITE USE AND SITE DEVELOPMENT AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR PROJECTS NOW. CITY OF AUSTIN WILL DETERMINE THAT THIS SITE IS WHAT WE CALL NONCOMPLIANT TO DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THAT THERE IS NOT A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF PARKING ON SITE TO ACCOMMODATE STAFF, THINGS OF THAT NATURE BY WAY OF CODE, ZONING CODE.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN SCOPE REQUIREMENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ORIGINAL BOND PROGRAM, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO YOU SEE YOU SEE THOSE LISTED IN THE SLIDE AND YOU SEE THAT THAT GRAPHIC THERE.
WE'RE JUST FINALIZING NUMBERS TODAY, THIS WEEK, AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS PREPARED FOR YOU AS WE PUBLISH AGENDA HERE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE DAYS FOR YOU TO SEE AND REVIEW. AND WE'RE JUST HAPPY TO GET THIS BACK UNDER UNDERWAY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. TRUSTEE WESTON.
MR. WORCESTER CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE? WE'VE HAD THAT COMMUNITY COME TO US BEFORE.
I WAS GLAD TO SEE THIS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I HAVE CLARITY ON WHY THREE YEARS OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT A NEW SCHOOL OVER ON THE EAST SIDE.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DELAY? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY THERE? CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT? I'D BE HAPPY TO.
THE TIMELINE AND AND EVERYONE IN I GUESS, PUBLIC SPEECH, PUBLIC DISCUSSION ASSUMES THAT THIS PROJECT WAS THE FIRST YEAR PROJECT.
IT WAS NOT. IT WAS ACTUALLY A SECOND THIRD YEAR PROJECT WITHIN THE BOND.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS THAT WHEN THE BOND WAS ORIGINALLY ORCHESTRATED IN ITS SALE OF BONDS PROPORTIONED, IF YOU WILL, THE PROPORTIONING OF THE BONDS AND THEIR SALES WAS GOING TO BE ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.
AND SO THIS MANY PROJECTS WERE IN ORDER TO TO LEVEL THE AMOUNT OF OF BOND SALES WAS MANY PROJECTS WERE ASSIGNED TO THE SECOND YEAR, THIRD YEAR.
AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WAS THAT WE SOLD THE FIRST YEAR BONDS AND WE WERE STARTING TO WORK ON THE FIRST YEAR PROJECTS.
THAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE PROJECTS YOU SEE FINISHING NOW.
AND SO AS WE ARE GOING INTO THE SECOND YEAR, OUR FORMER CFO, DR.
[INAUDIBLE], REALIZED THAT HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU RECALL, TO SELL SECOND YEAR AND THIRD YEAR SIMULTANEOUSLY.
AND SO AS THAT BEGIN TO HAPPEN, THEN OTHER PROJECTS WERE MOVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FORWARD. FROM THAT POINT, CARAWAY AGAIN GOES BACK TO THE DISCUSSION THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE, THEN OF COURSE, THIS WAS ON CONSENT AGENDA BACK IN APRIL.
AND SO DEFERRED SO THAT WE COULD RELOOK AT THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO AGENDA, AS A BOARD OF TRUSTEES, YOU'LL BE VOTING TO CHANGE ITS SCOPE FROM THE ORIGINAL BOND SCOPE TO AN ALTERNATE SCOPE.
AND SO THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO REPRICE, REDRAW THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO IT HASN'T BEEN LANGUISHING.
IT'S JUST BEEN WORKING THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVELY IN THAT AREA.
SO IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT THE PROJECT IS NOT DELAYED?
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THE PROJECT IS NOT BEHIND SCHEDULE.SOMETIMES I HEAR PEOPLE MAYBE WONDER IF THERE ARE CITY OF AUSTIN PERMITTING DELAYS.
YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT'S NOT THE CASE THAT WE'RE, THIS PROJECT IS MOVING AS PLANNED.
IT'S NOT MOVING NECESSARILY AS PLANNED.
IT'S MOVING FORWARD AS BEST WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.
MR. WORCESTER, THANK YOU FOR GOING BACK AND LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW WE DID ASK THAT OF YOU IN APRIL, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM GOING BACK AND ADDRESSING ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT COMMUNITY HAD.
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD FOR THEM AS FAR AS WHEN? I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING SUMMERS IF WE APPROVE IT ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING, WHAT CAN THAT COMMUNITY LOOK FOR AS FAR AS TIMELINE GOING FORWARD? HERE'S MY ANTICIPATION AND AND THAT QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY EMAILED TO ME TODAY BY A PRINCIPAL, MS. ORTIZ. AND MY RESPONSE WILL BE THE SAME AS I PUT INTO THE EMAIL BACK IS THAT MY HOPE AND EXPECTATION IS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THE WORK ON THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING THIS SUMMER SO THAT IT'S ALL COMPLETE AS WE ARE ABLE TO BRING STUDENTS BACK INTO THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR IN AUGUST.
MY HESITATION TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE ALL DONE EXACTLY THE WAY IT SCOPED IS BECAUSE WE'RE LEARNING THAT IN OUR ERA OF CONSTRUCTION, AN ORDER FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS BASICALLY AND DELIVERY IS AS LONG AS SIX MONTHS.
AND I'M HEARING THAT ROOFING INSULATION AND ROOFING MATERIALS COULD BE AS LONG AS NINE MONTHS, AND THAT VARIES ON WHO YOU'RE BUYING IT FROM AND AND WHATEVER CONTAINER SHIP THAT MAY BE OUT WAITING TO COME AND UNLOAD AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO OUR DELIVERY SYSTEM, AS YOU'VE ALL HEARD IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA, IS JUST NOT WORKING SMOOTHLY AND THAT AFFECTS THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF OUR PROJECTS.
AND SO THAT FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS, THAT BECOMES THE PRIORITY IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTRACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THESE DELAYS IN MATERIAL DELIVERY AND MATERIAL AVAILABILITY AFFECT OUR BUYING POWER.
AND SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE I REALLY WOULD FOCUS OUR BUILDER TO TO WORK ON WHAT MISSION CRITICAL, WHAT STUDENT CRITICAL.
AND WE'LL MOVE IN THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE SEMESTER AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT'S OUR PROMISED DELIVERY BECAUSE IF WE PROCEED INTO WORKING ON NEW MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, WE DON'T TAKE THE EXISTING MECHANICAL SYSTEM OFF UNTIL WE KNOW AND ARE GUARANTEED THAT WE HAVE DELIVERY OF MECHANICAL SYSTEMS TO PUT BACK ON BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO START SCHOOL WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IT'S VARIABLE AND THAT'S THE BEST I CAN ANSWER TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS ABOUT CARAWAY.
I PUSH MY BUTTON. OH, I'M SORRY, IT DID NOT LIGHT UP TRUSTEE.
ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT AUSTIN PERMITTING, AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF BEEN BROUGHT UP.
CAN YOU BE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHERE THE PERMITTING IS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A HOLD UP? ARE THE PERMITS READY? ARE WE STILL WAITING ON PERMITS? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE DRAINAGE? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THESE PERMITS? THE PERMITS ARE NOT WAITING BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SUBMIT WHEN YOU CHANGE SCOPE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REDRAW, RIG, DOCUMENT AND SUBMIT.
AND SO WE WE ARE IN THAT POSITION NOW, AND SO WE'RE READY TO SUBMIT NOW.
SO DO WE PERCEIVE THERE WILL BE A HOLD UP? WITH THE AUSTIN, AGAIN, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, I EXPECT NOT.
I EXPECT NOT. BUT AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US, AND SO WE JUST WORK THROUGH THAT AS BEST WE CAN.
DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S STILL A DELAY WITH PERMITTING TO DO WITH COVID? PERMITTING JUST TAKES YEAH, PERMITTING ALWAYS JUST TAKES SOME TIME.
AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH AN EXPEDITER AS NECESSARY TO TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND SO TODAY, I DON'T EXPECT IT.
THERE MAY BE AN UPDATE LATER ON THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS READY AND WE'RE READY TO SUBMIT.
ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE SINCE.
ALL RIGHT, SO I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE LIGHTS MR. WORCESTER ON CARAWAY.
NOW, BRUSHY CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS NOT QUITE AS FAR ALONG AS CARAWAY THERE BEING, I SHOULD SAY, THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM.
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THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM I'LL NAME IS A DLR GROUP AND THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH DOCUMENTS NOW AND YOU'LL SEE A RENDERING OF A PROPOSED BUILDING.THE PROGRAM FOR THIS BUILDING IS A 16 CLASSROOM ADDITION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL YOU'LL HEAR MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IS THAT, OH, IT'S BLUE AND WELL, IT'S BLUE BECAUSE ONE, IT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST TO JUST RENDER IT IN BLUE NOW.
BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, THE INSPIRATION THAT CAME FOR THIS PARTICULAR ADDITION CAME FROM THE FACT THAT THE BRUSHY CREEK SCHOOL THERE, BRUSHY CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ARE THE BLUE JAYS AND AND YOU CAN SEE SOME IMAGERY HERE OF BLUE JAYS NESTING AND HOME, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THE INSPIRATION THAT CAME INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE.
AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THIS IN THIS WORK AND YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT SLIDE IS HOW THE SITE.
AND THIS IS THIS IS SIMILAR TO MANY, MANY OF OUR OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES IN THE DISTRICT IS THAT THEY GROW ORGANICALLY AND OR THEY GROW WITH PORTABLES ALL OVER THE ALL OVER THE SITE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT BECOME RATHER INTERESTING ABOUT THIS SITE IS YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY TRIANGULAR.
IT'S SET BACK, THE BUILDINGS ARE SET BACK AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND WE HAVE MANY PORTABLES THERE. AND SO THIS PROJECT WILL REMOVE THOSE PORTABLES.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE POSITION ON SITE THAT THIS BUILDING IS PLANNED FOR NOW.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IS THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE DISTRICT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE HIGHLY POPULATED.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BE MINDFUL OF OF HOW POPULATION SHIFTS MAY OCCUR IN THAT AREA, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING ADDITION, THIS 16 CLASSROOM EDITION IS DESIGNED SO THAT IT CAN BE RECIPROCATED AND TO THE SOUTH, WHERE ON THIS GRAPHIC, NORTH IS UP. AND SO IF AT ANY POINT IN TIME WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, YOU WOULD TAKE THAT DASH FORM AND TURN IT OVER AND YOU WOULD CREATE A COURTYARD BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, WHICH WAS VERY DESIRABLE IN THE DISCUSSION AND THE PLANNING WITH THE STAFF.
AND THEN THERE'S A COVERED LINK THAT WILL TAKE YOU OUT THERE FROM THE MAIN BUILDING ITSELF. AND SO THAT'S TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THAT IS THE POINT OF VIEW OF CREATING THE CLASSROOMS, 8 CLASSROOMS ON THE LOWER LEVEL, 8 CLASSROOMS ON THE UPPER LEVEL AND THEN WITHIN THOSE EIGHT CLASSROOMS IN THE CORRIDOR SPACE, YOU SEE AN OPEN COLLABORATION AREAS, RESTROOMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THESE CLASSROOMS LOOK OUT BOTH TO THE EXTERIOR.
AND THEY WOULD LOOK, PARTICULARLY THOSE ALONG THE FRONTAGE THERE WOULD LOOK INTO A COURTYARD THAT COULD BECOME IN THE IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU A HINT OF WHAT THAT COULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE, AS YOU SEE THERE ON THE LEFT WOULD BE THE COURTYARD THAT COULD BE A GRASSY AREA IN THE FUTURE.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS JUST A RENDERING OF A JUST TYPICAL CLASSROOM THAT THAT IS SUCH AND OF COURSE, IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS OPEN MAKER SPACE.
AND ONE MORE RENDERING OF OPEN COLLABORATION SPACE.
AND SO THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOU.
IF WE CAN HAVE IT READY IN DECEMBER, WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU IN DECEMBER.
WE ARE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THERE'S LESS ISSUES RELATED TO SITE DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER COSTS. SO WE'RE MUCH WE'RE MUCH ON TARGET WITH THE BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT THAT WE THE SOONER WE CAN GET IT TO YOU AND GET IT UNDER CONTRACT, THE HAPPIER WILL BE THAT SORT OF THING. TRUSTEE FELLER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE ON BRUSHY CREEK.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON SLIDE 17.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT EXACTLY TO SCALE, BUT TELL ME ABOUT THE ADDITIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE OUTDOOR TRACK AND OUTDOOR PLAY SPACE FOR THE STUDENTS AT BRUSHY CREEK.
WE'LL HAVE TO SHORTEN THE TRACK.
YOU CAN SEE A GHOSTING JUST RIGHT OFF TO THE LEFT OF THAT, SO WE'LL HAVE TO SHORTEN THE TRACK, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE INTO THAT AREA TOO MUCH FROM THAT POINT IS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT LARGE TURN RIGHT THERE ON THE TRACK? SURE. SO ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING 16 MORE CLASSROOMS AND THEN A SLIGHTLY SMALLER PLAY AREA FOR P.E.
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AND THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, THAT'S NOT MY AREA.SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON IT.
NO, CURRENTLY NOT THE THERE IS A PLAYGROUND.
THERE IS A PLAYGROUND PROJECT THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THIS CAMPUS THROUGH THE BOND.
AND WE HAVE DEFERRED THAT UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT UP AND GOING.
AND THEN WE'LL PUT PUT THAT PLAYGROUND TOGETHER WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO ON SLIDE 17, WHERE WOULD THAT NEW PLAYGROUND, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY MY BABY.
YEAH. WHERE WOULD THE NEW PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES GO ON THAT TRIANGLE BOT? WE WOULD MOSTLY PUT IT BACK TOWARDS THE NORTH SIDE, AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME KIND OF AN ALCOVE AREA THERE AND AND OR WE CLOSE TO THE BUILDING.
SO THAT, OF COURSE, THESE PLAYGROUNDS ARE ALL ACCESSIBLE.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS SOME GRADE ON THIS ON THIS SITE.
SO WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED A SITE TODAY.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE BEGIN TO TO DO THE EARTH WORK ON THAT, THAT THE PLAYGROUND ACTUALLY DOESN'T INCLUDE A LOT OF RAMP WORK TO GET TO IT FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL STUDENTS.
AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A POSSIBLE ADDITION RESULTING IN A COURTYARD AND FLIPPING THAT IN SLIDE 17, WOULD THAT BE WHERE THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY AREA IS THAT I MEAN I KNOW WE'RE TALKING LONG TERM DOWN THE ROAD, BUT JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT SITE IS SET UP, WOULD THAT LEAD TO ANY KIND OF INTERFERENCE WITH THAT CURRENT BUS ROUTE OR I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT LANE IS USED FOR? NOT SO MUCH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY LINEAR FEET ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE THAT IF THAT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE EVER HAPPENED, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE A BUS LANE OF GREATER LENGTH AND. OK. THANKS SO MUCH.
SO CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 14, PLEASE? WHEN I RECEIVED.
THIS PRESENTATION LATE MONDAY.
I HAVE TO ADMIT, WHEN I GOT TO THIS SLIDE, I DIDN'T LOVE THIS DESIGN, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE IT'S JUST ME, BUT THEN WE STARTED GETTING SOME EMAILS THAT OTHERS FELT THAT WAY AND I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO MY GUT HERE IS THIS DESIGN IN PENCIL? IS IT IN PEN? DOES THE COMMUNITY HAVE A SAY IN THAT? I MEAN, THIS IS IN A HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND WHEN I THINK BACK TO RECENT SCHOOLS THAT WE BUILT LINDA HARRINGTON, OBVIOUSLY REDBUD PEARSON RANCH MIDDLE SCHOOL, THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE? I'D BE HAPPY TO.
YOU'VE JUST YOU'VE JUST WADED INTO THE DISCUSSION OF ART AND ARCHITECTURE AND AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, OOH, I HATE THAT DESIGN, AND I RESPECT THAT VERY MUCH.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT, AND I RESPECT THAT VERY MUCH.
AND SO WE'LL WE'LL WEIGH THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A RENDERING.
AND SO THAT BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BLUE.
IT COULD BE IT COULD BE ANOTHER COLOR.
IT COULD BE DETAILED DIFFERENTLY, THAT SORT OF THING.
THE FOCUS IN THIS PLANNING IS HOW DOES IT FIT ON THE SITE? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE FLOORPLAN AND WHAT MAY BE MASTERPLAN FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW BEYOND THAT? AND SO IF THERE'S IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT I DON'T LIKE THE ESTHETIC IS REALLY EASY TO TO OVERCOME. AND SO I HAVE NO WORRIES OVER THAT.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THAT THAT COMMUNITY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN WITH YOUR TEAM OR MR. HENSON OR THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN OR? OH SURE, WE ALWAYS DO, WE ALWAYS DO.
AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
TRUSTEE BONE, I WANT TO SECOND THAT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
I'VE BEEN ON BRUSHY CREEK CAMPUS A LITTLE BIT WITH MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER.
SHE DID A SUMMER CAMP THERE, SO WE WERE THERE EVERY DAY AND THIS AREA IS VERY WHAT I WOULD CALL LOW PROFILE.
AND THIS IS, I MEAN, THE ARCHITECTURE, JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF.
NO MATTER HOW YOU SEE IT, IT'S A BIGGER PROFILE THAN WHAT'S THERE BECAUSE IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
I KNOW THERE'S A CHURCH RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S HOUSES I BELIEVE THAT BACK RIGHT UP TO THIS AND WE HAVE GOTTEN EMAILS AND THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING A HUGE BUILDING AND IT'S SEPARATED FROM THE SCHOOL.
AND IT JUST TO ME ALSO, IT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE SCHOOL.
SO I WOULD LIKE MAYBE A RECONSIDER OF THAT AND DEFINITELY JUST GET THE COMMUNITY INPUT.
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THE OTHER ONE WAS, IS THAT IF I LOOK AT SLIDE 16 AND YOU COUNT THE PORTABLES, THERE'S NINE PORTABLES.I'M FAMILIAR WITH THESE PORTABLES AND THEN MOST PORTABLES, THERE'S TWO CLASSROOMS PER PORTABLE, SO NINE TIMES TWO IS EIGHTEEN.
BUT YET WE'RE BUILDING 16 CLASSROOMS. CAN YOU? DO WE KNOW? WHY ARE WE TAKING? ARE WE TAKING AWAY TWO CLASSROOMS OR ARE WE ACTUALLY KEEPING A PORTABLE THERE? WE ARE NOT TAKING AWAY TWO CLASSROOMS FROM THE STUDENTS.
THERE IS A PORTABLE THAT'S USED BY ITINERANT STAFF THERE.
SO ARE THOSE STAFF GOING TO BE DISPLACED OR THEY'RE GOING INTO? WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED WHERE STAFF MAY BE RELOCATED TO.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT AS THOSE PORTABLES ARE RELOCATED, IT IS MORE DESIRABLE TO MOVE STAFF TO WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO.
AND THE STAFF IS THERE, I BELIEVE ARE IN THE SPED TEAM AND THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO TO BE ASSIGNED OTHER CAMPUSES.
OK, SO ON THE SAME LINE IS THAT I KNOW ONE COMMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE IN THE PAST AFTER BOND PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DONE IS THAT IF WE'RE BUILDING FOR CAPACITY TODAY, BUT WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING, ARE WE GOING TO BE MOVING IN PORTABLES AS WE FINISH THIS PROJECT? I MEAN, DO WE SHOULD WE DO DESIGN WHERE WE'RE BUILDING 18 CLASSROOMS HERE? NO, BECAUSE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THIS CAMPUS EXISTS ONLY IN THAT THE 16 CLASSROOMS THAT WERE ADDED IS GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATING.
THE GROWTH FOR THIS, FOR THIS CAMPUS, FOR STUDENTS IS GOING TO BECOME FROM A CONSIDERATION OF WHERE STUDENTS MAY COME FROM OTHER CAMPUSES THAT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO GROW. AND SO THE CBC AND COMMITTEE ELECTED TO BUILD 16 AND AN ADMINISTRATION IS GOOD WITH THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, THEIR ADVICE TO SAY THIS IS THIS WILL WORK FOR US AND WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
AND SO I'M VERY, VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT JUST RANDOMLY MOVING DIFFERENT DESIGNS IN AND OUT OF THE ORIGINAL BOND SCOPE, AS YOU KNOW.
YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE CARAWAY, THOUGH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ON THE BOARD IS THAT IF WE KNOW NOW SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE BOND WAS PASSED, I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY IS ELECTED US TO MAKE THESE TYPE OF DECISIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN DO TWO MORE CLASSROOMS NOW AND NOT HAVE PORTABLES.
I REMEMBER WHEN CEDAR RIDGE WAS BUILT AND THEY LITERALLY STARTED MOVING IN PORTABLES, I BELIEVE, THAT YEAR.
AND IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEN COMES AND ASKS US LOTS OF QUESTIONS LIKE WHY [INAUDIBLE] GETTING A PORTABLE? AND I JUST PASS THIS BOND PROJECT.
AZAIEZ, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO GO LOOK AT AGAIN, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING THAT I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE PORTABLES AS THE BOND PROJECTS ARE DONE. I DON'T AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY FELLOW TRUSTEES WOULD AGREE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE TAKING AWAY CLASSROOMS FROM CARAWAY.
SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TWO MORE HERE, I WOULD BE.
I AT LEAST LIKE TO KNOW, RIGHT? JUST INFORMATION. THANK YOU, DR.
BONE. DEFINITELY, WE CAN REVISIT.
I WANT TO JUST ALSO HIGHLIGHT THAT OUR PRINCIPAL, OUR GREAT PRINCIPAL HERE FOR BRUSHY CREEK, MS. STRONG, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
BUT WOULD WORK WITH HER AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS A NEED TO CHANGE THE SCOPE AND WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU. MY LAST COMMENT WITH THIS IS YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP WITH CARAWAY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I SEE ACTUALLY THAT WE WE ARE CREATING HERE.
AND MY CONCERN WITH THIS IN THE WAY THAT THIS IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, AND I'M GLAD THE PRINCIPAL IS HERE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU CALL THE SAFETY SECURITY ENTRANCE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE BOARD IS FOCUSED ON.
THIS BUILDING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS SETTING BY ITSELF.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A FRONT OFFICE PERSON? KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WALKING FROM THAT BUILDING TO THE MAIN BUILDING TO GO TO THE NURSES. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO CAN YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHY WE'RE CREATING THIS ISSUE? AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT IN CARAWAY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET RID OF IN CARAWAY, AND HERE WE ARE CREATING IT WITH THIS.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY SENSITIVE BECAUSE I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT AGES ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS. I'M ASSUMING MAYBE IT WOULD BE THE OLDER KIDS BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE WALKING. BUT EVEN THEN FOURTH, FIFTH GRADERS, THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH.
SO CAN YOU TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? THE DISCUSSION EARLY ON IN THIS PROJECT WAS THAT THIS THE ACCESS TO THIS INDEPENDENT BUILDING AND STANDING ALONE WAS NOT TO BE OPEN OR IN THE EXTERIOR.
AND SO THE ACCESS THE PATHWAY TO THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ENCLOSED PATHWAY.
AND SO STUDENTS ARE MOVING BACK AND FORTH IN ENCLOSED AREA AS SO STUDENTS ARE NOT AND
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[INAUDIBLE] NOT, THEY'RE NOT ACCESSING THE BUILDING PER SAY, AS IT MAY APPEAR IN THE RENDERINGS THERE TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THE SCHOOL.YOU STILL GO THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I GUESS ON THAT DOESN'T IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE.
ALL I SEE IS A WALKWAY THAT'S COVERED.
SO ON 17, ARE YOU TELLING ME I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THERE IS A ENCLOSED HALLWAY OF SOME SORT THAT GOES BETWEEN THE MAIN BUILDING AND THIS NEW STANDALONE.
IT'S ENCLOSED. IT'S A HALLWAY.
IT'S NOT OPEN. THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONVERSATION EARLY ON THAT IT BE SAFE AND SECURE AND ENCLOSED, A CLOSED ENVELOPE, IF YOU WILL.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN ON 18, SLIDE 18, THERE'S NO CONNECTION.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT ON THIS GRAPHIC BECAUSE THESE ARE EARLY GRAPHICS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE THE I COULD BRING, I'M SORRY, I COULD BRING A SET OF OF WORKING DRAWINGS FOR YOU.
BUT THESE ARE EARLY, EARLY GRAPHICS.
AND SO WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC.
AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS TO BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU IS THAT I WILL CERTAINLY ASK THE DESIGN TEAM TO PROVIDE FOR ME A GRAPHIC SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT CONNECTION.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK MY CONCERN IS IF I PULLED UP TO BRUSHY CREEK NOW, I WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THIS BUILDING AS THE MAIN BUILDING, AND I WOULD THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE THE MAIN OFFICE PERSON. IT WOULD BE VERY CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING ANYWAYS. SO I JUST.
YEAH, JUST SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S FITTING IN HERE. YEAH.
AND SO WE'LL GET YOU A GRAPHIC SO THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY THAT BETTER RATHER THAN TALK IT OUT, IT'S BETTER TO SEE. OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. TRUSTEE FELLER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I ACTUALLY HAD A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION THAN TRUSTEE BONE DID BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE WERE TAKING NINE INDEPENDENT PORTABLES AND PUTTING IT ALL INTO ONE BUILDING THAT.
SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING SURE ON THAT SECURITY AND SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN AND UPDATE OF THAT, BECAUSE I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM ALL BEING IN ONE FACILITY.
AND SO I WOULD LOVE THE MORE DETAILS ON HOW THAT CONNECTS WITH THE MAIN BUILDING AS WELL, BUT ACTUALLY SAW IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY JUST BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM NINE SEPARATE PORTABLES THAT THEY'RE MOVING BACK AND FROM INDEPENDENTLY.
SO THANKS FOR GETTING THAT ADDITIONAL CONNECTION INFORMATION.
CAN I PUT MS. STRONG ON THE SPOT FOR JUST A SECOND? I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS BECAUSE WE DID GET SEVERAL EMAILS AND IF IT'S OK WITH YOU, DR.
AZAIEZ, AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ANSWERING, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE OVERHANG THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S BATS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE GOTTEN IN.
HOW HOW HAVE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS GONE WITH THE COMMUNITY? CAN SHE COME OVER HERE? OR EVEN UP TO THE PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT WE CAN'T WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU, SORRY.
THANK YOU, MR. I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.
OK, SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A WHOLE LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT FOR IT.
IT WAS JUST LIKE CAMPUS PERSONNEL.
WE HAD A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TEACHERS AND LIKE I SAID, CAMPUS PERSONNEL ARE KIND OF SITTING WITH THE DLR GROUP JUST KIND OF MAKING THE PLAN.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS WOULD BE THEN FOR LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND GIVE THEIR INPUT FOR THAT PIECE OF IT.
WE DID HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS BECAUSE OUR ADDRESS IS ACTUALLY STONEBRIDGE, BUT OUR MAIN OFFICE OPENS UP ON GREAT OAKS.
SO THAT'S REALLY WEIRD IN ITSELF.
AND SO, YEAH, YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT IS LOOKING LIKE THE MAIN BUILDING.
I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE COVERED WALKWAY BECAUSE FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE ENCLOSED.
IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE A COVERED PATHWAY.
YEAH. SO BUT TO THE COVERED, IT'S WHAT RIGHT NOW IT'S COVERED.
OKAY. WELL, GOOD BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WASN'T GOING TO BE SO.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT WHEN YOU HAVE IT.
AND I KNOW SO YOU'RE BRINGING IT TO US IN DECEMBER, SO THERE'S STILL A WHOLE ANOTHER MONTH TO GET TOGETHER.
AND I THINK LIKE WHAT THE COLORING OF IT, WHEN I HAD TALKED WITH THE DEALER, A GROUP, IT WAS LIKE, I KNOW IT'S BLUE RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS THAT BEAUTIFUL BROWN, THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME STONES AND THE BRICK TO INCORPORATE TO MAKE IT MATCH THE BUILDING AS BEST THEY COULD.
AND THEY WERE THINKING JUST THOSE BEAMS THAT YOU WOULD SEE WOULD BE PAINTED.
BUT I WASN'T FOR SURE LIKE THE FINAL.
THANKS FOR THAT AS WELL. BUT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED, LIKE THEY'RE READY TO GET OUT OF THOSE PORTABLES, THE KIDS, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO I MEAN, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO BRUSHY CREEK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT WOOD PANELING AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF. IT'S SHABBY CHIC, BUT IT'S NOT THE BUILDING, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS SAY. SO THANK YOU.
AND THEN JUST ONE LAST QUESTION, MR. WORCESTER, SORRY TO PUT EVERYBODY ON THE SPOT WITH THAT.
WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US IN DECEMBER, IS THE PLAYGROUND GOING TO BE PART OF THAT OR IS THAT GOING TO BE LATER WHERE YOU BRING THAT TO US?
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I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE BOND, BUT.WE'LL APPROACH THE PLAYGROUND PROJECT THIS SUMMER, COMING SUMMER SIMPLY BECAUSE AS AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE, IF WE IF IF THE IF THE PROJECT IN THIS IN THIS FORMAT OR WHATEVER FORMAT THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, THEN WE'LL KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THE PLAYGROUND ITSELF.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIKE TRUSTEE XIAO.
SO I JUST HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION WHEN WE BUILD A NEW SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, ARE WE WHEN WE DESIGN THE PLAN?ARE WE TAKING CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL POTENTIALS? YES. YES.
WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE NEW SCHOOL PLANS, SOME SCHOOL PLANS, I HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL, BUT OTHERS DON'T.
WE HAVE WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT FACILITIES OF DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES AND DETAILING AND THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE OUR DISTRICT AND AND SO MOST I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM A BUILDERS DESIGNERS POINT OF VIEW.
YOU CAN CREATE AN ADDITION TO A SCHOOL IN MULTIPLE WAYS, MULTIPLE TECHNIQUES AND IN MULTIPLE DETAILING.
AND AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I ALWAYS CHARGE MY DESIGNERS IS TO KNOW THAT IT COULD CHANGE. IT COULD CHANGE IN 40 YEARS.
THESE BUILDINGS TEND TO BE LONG TERM SERVICE.
AND SO SOME CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO CHANGE OR ADD THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU START A PROJECT WITH THE MINDSET THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD ON TO A WING OR YOU CAN ADD ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
BRUSHY CREEK IS YOU COULD ADD CLASSROOMS BY RECIPROCATING ANOTHER BUILDING AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF THE MODEL YOU WANT TO GIVE YOURSELF THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGE BECAUSE IT MAY HAPPEN IN IN THE YEARS FORWARD.
MS. FELLER JUN ONE MORE. ONE LAST QUESTION, IF THIS COMES TO PASSES IN DECEMBER.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THIS WING BEING COMPLETED? IT GOES BACK TO THE SAME DISCUSSION ABOUT MATERIAL AVAILABILITY IS THAT IF IF YOU HAVE A NEW PROJECT IN THIS, IT'S NEW IN THE CONTEXT THAT THAT A BUILDER CAN ORDER MATERIALS AND IN AND RELEASE THE ORDERS FOR THINGS SUCH AS HVAC AND METAL STUDS AND STRUCTURAL STEEL.
STRUCTURAL STEEL IS A VERY LONG LEAD ITEM NOW, AND I'M SURE MR. HENSEN WILL AGREE IS THAT IT TAKES MONTHS TO RELEASE AN ORDER FOR STRUCTURAL STEEL.
AND SO YOU MAY SEE THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE ADVANCE AND THEN THEY PAUSE WAITING FOR MATERIALS, THEN THEY'LL ADVANCE AND THEN THEY'LL PAUSE.
AND AND SO DEPENDING ON ON WHAT PROJECT YOU'RE BEHIND IN FABRICATION OR IN MANUFACTURE, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT.
I HAVE A RULE OF THUMB THAT I'VE ALWAYS USED, AND THAT RULE OF THUMB IS THAT IT TAKES US LONG TO BUILD A PROJECT ON PAPER, AS IT IS ON THAT RULE OF THUMB IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGED IN THIS ERA. IN THAT PAPER IS NO BIG DEAL GETTING THE MATERIALS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THINGS IS. AND SO THESE TIMELINES ARE ARE ELONGATING FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
YEAH, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO NAIL YOU DOWN TO ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE ALL LIVING IN THE AGE OF NEW EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY CHAIN IS BECOMING A REGULAR WORD IN OUR IN OUR DAILY LIVES NOW.
AND SO I KNOW THAT SUPPLY CHAIN IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR, I MEAN, EVERYTHING FROM GREEN BEANS TO, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURAL STEEL.
SO I CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO NAIL YOU DOWN.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD KIND OF A GENERAL ESTIMATE THAT MAYBE BY THE START OF THE, YOU KNOW, 2023 SCHOOL YEAR.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, JUST I DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE.
TWENTY TWENTY THREE START A SCHOOL YEAR WOULD BE A REAL STRETCH.
AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE SUCH THAT EVERYTHING WORKED PERFECTLY.
AND LATELY, THINGS JUST DON'T WORK PERFECTLY.
ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS ON BRUSHY CREEK, SO.
MOVING ON TO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
ALL RIGHT, SO EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL, YOU'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AND WITH US TONIGHT WE HAVE A OUR PRINCIPAL WITH O'CONNOR ROBERTSON AND THAT WOULD BE JARED STERGER.
I PRACTICE THAT. AND JARED IS HERE TO TO TALK THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT
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WE WENT THROUGH AND HIS ASSOCIATE, DOUG DAWSON.AND SO I'LL JUST PAUSE HERE FROM TALKING AND JARED YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE.
GREAT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CONNOR ROBERTSON TEAM. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE PRESENTING EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL HERE FOR YOU TONIGHT. I WAS ASKED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT AND KIND OF PURSUANT TO YOUR QUESTION, IT'LL BE VERY TIMELY FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM OF EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND GET INTO THE PROPOSED BUILDING HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO TONIGHT, JUST KIND OF IN BREVITY, WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT SHORT.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK AS THE PRESENTER COVER A LOT OF MATERIAL.
BUT WE DO HAVE DR. WILSON AND DR.
MULCHER OVER HERE AS WELL, WHO ARE THE ABSOLUTE EXPERTS ON EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY QUESTIONS HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT AS WE START INTO TONIGHT, REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL TO SET THE FRAMEWORK.
SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE START TALKING ABOUT WHY EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL AND THINKING ABOUT THE STUDENTS, AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTS AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE SPACE, HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE STUDENTS AND THE PROGRAM. SO THE COLLEGE WAS SET UP FIVE YEARS AGO IN 2016 WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY WELCOMED THE STUDENTS.
IT REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN DOORS FOR STUDENTS IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY PRESENT, AND IT BECOMES THAT PARTNERSHIP IN THIS CASE BETWEEN ROUND ROCK ISD AND AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE. THEY REALLY FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL.
YOU'LL SEE THAT AS THEY TALK ABOUT THE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE STUDENT COHORT.
SO THAT'S 500 STUDENTS AT THE ENTIRE SCHOOL AND ULTIMATELY ARE LOOKING FOR STUDENTS TO ATTAIN UP TO 60 HOURS OF CREDIT OR AN ASSOCIATE'S PROGRAM.
AND IT'S REALLY ON THOSE FIRST GENERATION COLLEGE STUDENTS.
SO IT'S REALLY THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEM SHINE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE SCHOOL AND WE START THINKING ABOUT THE CURRICULUM AS WE LOOK ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK ABOUT THE CONTINUUM OF EDUCATION FOR THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU BACK UP JUST ONE SLIDE, I THINK, BUT ULTIMATELY WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE JOURNEY OF THE STUDENT AS THEY ENTER IN AS A FRESHMAN, WORKED THROUGH, AS A SENIOR AND ULTIMATELY AS A FRESHMAN, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ON CAMPUS FULL TIME.
AND THEN EVERY SINGLE SEMESTER, THEY TRANSITION MORE AND MORE INTO THE COLLEGE LIFE, I'LL CALL IT. THEY'RE STILL ON PROPERTY, BUT ULTIMATELY TAKING MORE COLLEGE CREDITS AS THEY MOVE BEGINNING TO END.
AND SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PROGRAM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITIES THAT IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY THEN TO SHIFT THE BUILDING PROGRAM AND REALLY UTILIZING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ACC FACILITIES AS WELL.
HERE WE'RE THINKING OF NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE EDUCATIONAL PEDAGOGY.
WE KNOW THAT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS IMPLEMENTING THE ROUND ROCK ISD TEKS, IMPLEMENTING AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE STANDARDS AS WELL, BUT ALSO TRYING TO DEVELOP STUDENTS IN TERMS OF THE SOFT SKILLS, THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT 21ST CENTURY LEARNING AND HOW DO WE CREATE ENVIRONMENTS THAT REALLY CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT AND ENHANCE EDUCATIONAL DESIGN.
SO THERE'S EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.
AND REALLY, WE'VE HAD A VERY DEEP ENGAGEMENT PROCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR.
WE'VE HAD WELL OVER 60 MEETINGS TALKING TO FACULTY STAFF, STUDENTS, PARENTS.
WE'VE ENGAGED THE LEADERSHIP AND ADMINISTRATION FROM EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
WE'VE ENGAGED AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE FROM THE, I GUESS, CEO OF AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DOWN TO THE CAMPUS MANAGERS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS. AND ULTIMATELY, THIS FOUNDATION HERE, AS WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SET THE MISSION FOR THE PROJECT FOR US OF LEARNING ABOUT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, LEARNING ABOUT THE STUDENTS, HOW CAN WE BEST SUPPORT THEM MOVING FORWARD IN A FOCUS OF A SPACE FOR SCHOLARSHIP OF THESE STUDENTS ARE REALLY ENTERING INTO THEIR COLLEGIATE CAREER.
WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO CREATE A SANCTUARY ON THE CAMPUS.
IS THERE STILL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THERE STILL 14 YEAR OLDS GOING ON TO THE CAMPUS AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR HOME BASE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD.
IT DOES BECOME THAT HUB FOR LEARNING FOR ROUND ROCK ISD EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ON THE ACC CAMPUS, AND WE WANT TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION AND INNOVATION. MOVING FORWARD IS THE PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, BUT IT'S THOSE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING SKILLS.
A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING WITHIN THE DESIGNS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REDBUD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL SIX OR WESTWOOD SUCCESS HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW THOSE OPPORTUNITIES CREATING AND DESIGNED.
SO THAT MISSION REALLY HELPED US FRAME THE FORMWORK OF MOVING FORWARD.
AND YES, PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE'RE RIGHT. WE'VE MADE IT THROUGH THE PROGRAMING AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN EFFORT WHERE WE DO THAT DEEP LEARNING. WE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE ITEMS. WE ULTIMATELY WORK TOWARDS CONTRACT DOCUMENTS, WHICH IS THAT WAY TO GET THAT PRICE FROM
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THE CONTRACTOR AND SET THAT VISION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.AND SO WE'RE JUST PAST THAT MOMENT IN CONTRACT DOCUMENTS WORKING THROUGH THE BIDDING NEGOTIATION, PROCUREMENT, PERMITTING EFFORTS AND ULTIMATELY LOOKING TOWARDS MAKING THOSE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND WHERE IS IT AT? SO AS WE LOOK AT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL SITE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE START WITH THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, WHICH IS THE EXISTING CAMPUS.
AND SO THAT IS THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE ROUND ROCK CAMPUS.
SO AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, A LITTLE BIT OFF SCREEN IS UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD.
AND THEN THAT IS THE CURRENT ACC CAMPUS.
THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE CURRENT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, AND YOU WILL OF COURSE, NOTICE IT'S ALL CURRENTLY IN PORTABLES AT THIS POINT.
SO MOST OF THEIR STUDENTS, THEIR ADMINISTRATION, THEIR CAFETERIA IS OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHEN THE WEATHER'S NICE, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
WHEN IT'S COLD AND WET, NOT SO GOOD.
AND THEN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, YOU'LL SEE THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WE WORK WITH AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO REALLY FIND THE OPTIMUM SITE.
THINKING ABOUT THE BEST EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENTS.
THINKING ABOUT MINIMIZING THE SITE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS FOR THE PROJECT.
WORKING WITH THE ACC MASTER PLAN.
SO ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT DIAGRAM IS THE FUTURE VISION THAT AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAS FOR THEIR CAMPUS AND ULTIMATELY STARTED WORKING IN AS WE MOVE FORWARD THE EDUCATIONAL BEST PRACTICES OF HOW TO APPROACH A SITE, HOW DO WE ADDRESS BUSSES, PARENT QUEUING, SAFETY AND ACCESS? AND SO YOU'LL SEE THEN THE YELLOW BLOCK MOVES FROM THE PORTABLES TO THE LOCATION THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS KIND OF CREATES ITS OWN LITTLE HOME, A LITTLE BIT OF A SANCTUARY ON THAT SIDE, BUT IT'S ALSO DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDINGS THAT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS USE MOST AS WE START MOVING INSIDE THE BUILDING.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE DESIGNED A THREE STOREY BUILDING HERE.
WE'VE CONTINUED THAT FOCUS ON EDUCATIONAL DESIGN, SAFETY AND SECURITY.
SO THINKING? ABOUT THE JOURNEY IS AN INDIVIDUAL APPROACHES THE FACILITY, HOW THEY WORK THROUGH THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PROCESS, ULTIMATELY PUTTING MOST OF THE PUBLIC SPACES WHAT I WOULD CALL PUBLIC SPACES SO THAT YOUR COMMONS, YOUR FITNESS, YOUR KITCHEN, YOUR ADMINISTRATION ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND START WORKING TOWARDS YOUR MORE PRIVATE SPACES ON THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR.
WE HAVE MOST OF YOUR EDUCATIONAL LINKS.
HERE, WE'VE WORKED HARD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THOSE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE DESIGN TO SUPPORT TEACHERS, TO SUPPORT STUDENTS AND THEIR EVERYDAY EDUCATION? HOW DO WE CREATE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT AND REALLY CREATE SOMETHING THAT CAN THRIVE FOR THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL HOURS? AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE START LOOKING AT THE EXTERIOR DESIGN.
HERE WE CREATED AN ARCHITECTURE THAT REALLY INTEGRATES WITH THE THE ARCHITECT TONICS, THE MATERIAL PALETTE OF AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT ALSO OUR GOAL WAS TO REALLY STRIKE ITS OWN PRESENCE TO IDENTIFY THAT AS YOUR A PARENT COMING HERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS ON THE ACC CAMPUS.
HERE YOU SEE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ANIMATION.
WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU LATER.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THEN NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE OUTDOOR AREAS THAT HELP SUPPORT FLEXIBILITY IN THE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT.
YOU'LL SEE THE CANOPY ON THE LEFT THAT EXTENDS THAT CAFETERIA ENVIRONMENT, AND WE ACTUALLY CREATED SOME LEARNING PATIOS OUTSIDE OF THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE SMALLER, TOP RIGHT IMAGE WHERE THAT'S THE ATHLETIC SPACE.
THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD COME OUT AND TEACH IN THAT ZONE REALLY HELP ENHANCE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S PROTECTED, AND THERE'S SOME NATURAL BARRIERS TO BE ABLE TO SEGREGATE ACC STUDENTS FROM EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES THEY'RE ONE IN THE SAME.
AS WE MOVE INSIDE THE BUILDING, YOU START SEEING THAT INTERACTIVE, FLEXIBLE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. WE STARTED WORKING THROUGH DETAILS ABOUT CREATING THE LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION AND COLLEGIATE FEEL WITHIN THE DESIGN, ULTIMATELY TO MAKE THE INSIDE SEEING JUST AS MUCH AS THE OUTSIDE.
WE THINK WE'VE HOPEFULLY CREATED A GREAT VISION, A GREAT HOME OR A NEST FOR THE OWLS HERE. AND SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD? AND SO RIGHT NOW ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT A DRAFT CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME COULD BE SO TENTATIVELY HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE WOULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY COMING MAYBE IN JANUARY, IF EVERYTHING COULD BE PULLED TOGETHER TO WORK THROUGH A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE ROUGHLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME. SO THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT THIS COULD OPEN FOR THE FALL OF '23.
AGAIN, SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT TERRY BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF MATERIAL AND PURCHASES AND LONG LEAD TIME ITEMS MOVING FORWARD.
SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH, SO WE'VE GOTTEN THE PRICE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH PERMEATES THROUGH THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW
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. WE'RE ADDRESSING A COUPLE OF FINAL LITTLE DETAILS AS WE TALK ABOUT THOSE SHARED UTILITIES WITH ACC AND INTEGRATING INTO THEIR CENTRAL UTILITY PLANT.SO WE HAVE SEEN A FIRST DRAFT OF THAT, STARTING TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS.
MAKE SURE THAT ENDS IN THE MOU AND ULTIMATELY THE GNP IS THAT THUMBS UP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK TO START CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL AND MAYBE TWO MINUTES.
I DIDN'T GET THE THIRTY SECOND WARNING, SO BUT WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
TRUSTEE FELLER? SO I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS, I THINK THAT THAT IS A GREAT NEED IN OUR DISTRICT FOR THOSE STUDENTS. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH ACC AND, YOU KNOW, MATCHING THEIR EXISTING, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF JUST REAL BRIEFLY HOW THAT WORKED? SO WE SET UP EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH ROUND ROCK AND REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR ROUND ROCK ISD.
SO THAT WAS ALWAYS FIRST, BUT WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH ACC.
RHODES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AZAIEZ AND HIS TEAM, WHO WERE PROJECT MANAGERS.
SO WE MET WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESS, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE SETTING? THERE'S A LOT OF INTERFACE.
IN FACT, ALL THE UTILITIES ARE INTERCONNECTED, MINIMIZING THE COST FOR ROUND ROCK ISD IN FIRST COST AND ULTIMATELY MADE SURE THAT WE'RE MESHING WITH THEIR STANDARDS WITH ROUND ROCK ISD STANDARDS.
HOW'S THAT WORK FOR MAINTENANCE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A GREAT HANDSHAKE BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES? GREAT.
THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, AND I MAY BE PUTTING CHIEF GARBER ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ASPECT OF THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ROUND ROCK ISD PD AND ACC PD AND HOW THAT WORKS.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW OUR CURRENT CAMPUS IS REALLY A SAFETY CONCERN, A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN FOR ME BEING JUST A COMPLETE PORTABLE CAMPUS.
BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN INDEPENDENT BUILDING? AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE PLAN ON THINKING ABOUT STAFFING A PD OFFICER THERE? AND I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND YOU CAN SAY YOU COULD GET BACK TO ME.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF UPDATE OF HOW THE SECURITY WOULD WORK ON THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR. TRUSTEE WEIR . I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE FELLER, WHAT WE DO CURRENTLY IS WE HAVE A PATROL DIVISION AND OUR PATROL DIVISION CURRENTLY WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND WE PROVIDE DAILY PATROLS OF OUR CAMPUSES.
AND IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURS ON OUR CAMPUS AND ONE OF OUR OFFICERS IS NOT THERE. AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE WILL BE RESPONDING, BE THE FIRST OFFICER ON THE SCENE AND THEN THEY WILL TURN THAT OVER TO US IN THE TRANSFER OF JURISDICTION WHEN THAT OCCURS AND WE INVESTIGATE OUR SITUATION OR OUR INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR THERE.
IF WE HAVE OUR OWN CAMPUS AND IT'S ON THAT PROPERTY, IF THEY ARE ON THE CAMPUS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICER THERE, THEY WILL DO THE THEY WILL PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY OF SERVICE, MEANING THAT THERE WILL BE THE INITIAL OFFICER TO RESPOND AND THEN THEY WOULD TRANSFER THAT OVER TO US ONCE WE ARRIVED.
LONG TERM, IF WE HAVE A CAMPUS ON THE ACC CAMPUS, IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN OFFICER TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF IN OUR FACILITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT LITTLE BRIEF OVERVIEW AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE, IS BACK TO MR. WOOSTER. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF US OWNING THE PROPERTY AND ACC OWNING THE LAND AND HOW THAT RELATIONSHIP WORKS.
THE RELATIONSHIP IS SUCH THAT THE ONE IS THAT WE WOULD NOT AS A DISTRICT PURCHASE LAND.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD WITHIN THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, KNOW THAT THE FEE $10 A YEAR, THAT SORT OF THING TO BE ABLE TO POSITION OUR BUILDING ON THE LAND AND RENT THE LAND, AND THAT THE DISCUSSIONS ARE WHAT, IF ANY, TIME FRAME THERE MAY BE AND THAT THAT BUILDING WOULD BE THERE AND YOU'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THAT AGREEMENT WITH ACC IN PERPETUITY, YOU KNOW, FOR AS LONG AS THE SCHOOL IS IN SESSION OR THE DISTRICT EXISTS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO THE RELATIONSHIP THEN BECOMES VERY SYMBIOTIC IN THAT WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT IS A SECURE BUILDING.
WE HAVE A VERY TIGHTLY CONTROLLED AREA THAT WE MAINTAIN JUST SOME FOUNDATIONAL LANDSCAPE.
THEY DO THE MOWING, THEY MANAGE ALL OF THE CHILLED WATER AND THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY
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PROCURE CHILLED WATER FROM THEIR EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FIRST COSTS, STARTUP COSTS, AND WE WOULD HAVE OUR OWN FIRE ALARM INTERCOM THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OUR OWN DATA FEED THAT SERVE US INDEPENDENTLY.SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD DEPEND UPON IS BASICALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXIST ON SITE AT THE CENTER QUAD AREA AND OR THE FUNCTIONALITY OF CREATING CHILLED WATER.
TRUSTEE BONE? SO I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE, BUT I'LL CONTINUE WITH TRUSTEE FELLER'S LINE OF QUESTIONING THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WEIR HAS TO DO IS BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAX DOLLARS AND THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AND I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
AND I DO WONDER IF ACC EVER DECIDES TO CLOSE THAT CAMPUS OR THEY DECIDE TO REPURPOSE IT.
WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? I MEAN, WE ARE BUILDING POSSIBLY A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY THERE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST I GUESS I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
I HAVE SOME DEEP CONCERNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS END UP MAKING THE NEWS, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE THERE'S FIGHTING AND YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT IS PUT IN A POSITION.
SO CAN YOU KIND OF TALK IT TO THAT A LITTLE BIT LIKE, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING THAT WE OWN THAT'S ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY? HAVE WE EVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD GO WRONG? HAVE WE INVESTIGATED ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIALS? I THINK THAT'S WHERE TRUSTEE FELLER WAS KIND OF ASKING, LIKE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH US OWNING THIS BUILDING AND ACC? THAT'S A THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTION.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF LOT EMBEDDED IN THAT QUESTION.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THE WELL, AND IT GOES BOTH WAYS.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND IT'S A LOT AND TO DEVELOP INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUY LAND, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO THE REALITY IS THAT THE GOAL OF THIS CONVERSATION WITH ACC WAS TO POSITION THE STUDENTS ON CAMPUS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE SPIRIT AND THE ORGANIZATION OF LEARNING WITHIN EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
THEIR CENTER QUAD, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO BEGIN TO RELY UPON ACC TO KNOW THAT THEIR EDUCATORS JUST AS WE'RE EDUCATORS AND THAT, YES, THEY MAY CLOSE THEIR CAMPUS.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT HAVE CRYSTAL BALLS EITHER. BUT YOU HAVE TO ASSUME AND DOUBT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR TRUST OR RELY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE ACC IS EXPANDING. THIS WHOLE AREA IS EXPANDING.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE STUDENTS AND MORE INTEREST IN EDUCATION AND HIGHER LEARNING FROM THAT POINT.
AND OF COURSE, WE ALL HAVE HEARD HOW COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEVEL EDUCATION IS VERY DESIRABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND FROM THAT POINT, AND SO I PERSONALLY CAN'T TELL YOU THE MINDSET OF A ACC, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE CONVERSATION IS THAT THE QUOTE FROM DR.
RHODES IS "YOUR STUDENTS ARE OUR STUDENTS." AND SO FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW, WHY WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER BUT THIS SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP? AND SO I DON'T HAVE THAT CAUTION.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT CAUTION.
AND BUT I RESPECT THAT YOU DO FROM THAT POINT.
YEAH, I THINK I JUST THINK THAT RESPONSIBLY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE ACC IS ALSO A TAXING ENTITY.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT UP TO ACC IF THEY CONTINUE OR NOT, IT'S ACTUALLY THE TAXPAYERS.
SO I THINK THAT'S IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I PREFER TO LOOK AT THAT NOW.
I KNOW MY TIME IS LIMITED ON THE BOARD AND I DON'T WANT TO KICK THAT CAN DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IN 10 YEARS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE CAUSE.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND NEW THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE. AND SO I REALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
MAKE SURE MAYBE THAT'S IN THE MOU THAT WE SOMEHOW ARE COMPENSATED BACK IF THEY EVER WANT TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY OR SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT SOMEHOW WE HAVE PROTECTED OUR DISTRICT AND OUR INTEREST. CAN I ASK A QUICK FOLLOW UP BEFORE YOU DO YOUR NEXT QUESTION? YEAH, JUST TOTALLY CHANGED FOR MY OTHER QUESTION.
OK, AWESOME. WE'LL APPROVE THE MOU; CORRECT?
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JUST LIKE WE DO ALL THE OTHER MOUS, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT AND SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT STUFF. AND JUST TO TRUSTEE BONE'S POINT, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD REITERATE THAT IF THERE WAS SOME WAY TO HAVE AS PART OF THAT MOU, I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHO ALL IS INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD BE A JOINT SALE SINCE WE DO OWN THE BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT ON THAT PROPERTY.ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE AS JARED HAD MENTIONED THAT THE MOU IS IN ITS FIRST DRAFT AND CURRENTLY IT'S NOT IN ANY SORT OF SHAPE RIGHT NOW AS A FORMAL DOCUMENT INTO ALL THESE ISSUES ARE ACTUALLY IN FLUID CONVERSATION TO SAY HOW LONG CAN WE EXIST OR OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN DOES IT TIME OUT? AND IT SHOULDN'T TIMEOUT FROM THAT POINT UNLESS THERE'S A CATASTROPHIC SITUATION THAT IT NEEDS A TIMEOUT, YOU KNOW, AND OR WILL EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL CONTINUE? MAYBE THAT'S A DISTRICT DECISION.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING AT THAT POINT IN TIME? THERE'S ALL KINDS OF SCENARIOS THAT YOU CAN PLAY.
AND SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE CURRENTLY IN MOTION.
AND WOULD WE HAVE THE MOU AT KIND OF BY JANUARY, YOU SAID THE GNP WOULD BE BROUGHT TO US IN JANUARY WITH THAT KIND OF BE ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
ARE YOU HOPING HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE IS THAT IT'S OF COURSE YOU'RE EMPANELED AS A BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO APPROVE THAT MOU, BUT YOU'RE WORKING OBVIOUSLY REMOTELY FROM ANOTHER EMPANELED BOARD OF TRUSTEES THAT ALSO HAS TO APPROVE THAT MOU THROUGH ACC.
AND SO JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION, COULD BECOME A BIT AMBITIOUS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR BOND OBLIGATIONS TO MOVE THIS PROJECT TO THIS POINT. AND WE ARE EVER SO HOPEFUL THAT AS YOU SEE SOME OF THESE VARIANCES SURPLUSES DEVELOP THAT YES, WE CAN CHARGE RIGHT INTO THIS PROJECT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPARENCY WE WANT YOU TO SEE JUST SOME OF THE THE LAYERS OF COMPLICATION AND WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS.
THANK YOU. I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, TRUSTEE BONE.
YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ADD THAT SINCE THIS IS UNIQUE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FIND AN MOU OF SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR WHERE TWO PUBLIC ENTITIES HAVE AN MOU.
AND IT'S A LONG STANDING ONE, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 15-20 YEARS.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HEAR ABOUT THESE THINGS, SUCH AS WHEN WE GO TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE OUTSIDE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEIR APPROVAL, I BET.
AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE COLOR, IF WE WANT A NEW ROOF, IF WE NEED A HVAC AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THIS UP FOR SUCCESS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CAUSE HEADACHES FOR OURSELVES OR OTHERS DOWN THE ROAD. SO I WOULD JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT AND JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE RAN INTO.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE BREAK SOMETHING ON THEIR PROPERTY? HOW DOES THAT WORK? AGAIN, OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE DISTRICT.
OK, SO MY OTHER QUESTION THEN GOES TO THE BUILDING LAYOUT, WHICH WAS ON SLIDE 31.
I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON IS THE FITNESS CENTER? IS THAT JUST RECREATIONAL OR IS THAT USED FOR ACTUALLY A TEACHING SPACE? SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S MORE TEACHING SPACE, SO CURRENTLY THEY ARE OCCUPYING A OPEN ROOM, A DOUBLE SIZED ROOM. I'D SAY LIKE THIS WITHOUT THAT IN THE ACC BUILDING, AND SO THERE IS NO PLACE TO PROVIDE THE ATHLETIC CREDIT.
AND SO THIS OFFERS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY DO A LITTLE HALF COURT GYM, SOME CHANGING RESTROOMS, VERY MODEST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FULFILLING THE ATHLETIC REQUIREMENT OF GRADUATING STUDENTS.
OK, SO I BELIEVE FOR HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S ONE PE CREDIT.
DANIELLE'S SHAKING HER HEAD, I SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE I HAVE A HIGH SCHOOLER.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY TO FULFILL THAT ONE PE CREDIT? CORRECT.? AND I WOULD SAY SIZE PROPORTIONALLY TO THAT IS NOT A FULL SIZED GYM OR A HALF COURT GYM. RIGHT? OK. AND THEN THE KITCHEN.
IS THAT ALSO A TEACHING SPACE OR IS THIS THE CAFETERIA? CAFETERIA KITCHEN.
OK. AND SO THE COMMONS KITCHEN AREA IS KIND OF THE CAFETERIA? EXACTLY. OK.
AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT THEN IS I HAVE A COUPLE MORE.
ONE OF THEM IS THAT SO I TEACH AND I'VE BEEN IN BUILDINGS LIKE THIS THAT ARE DESIGNED THIS WAY WITH THE BIG OPEN TWO STOREY AND THOSE CLASSROOMS ON SLIDE 31 THAT ARE ON THAT SECOND LEVEL. LOTS OF TIMES WHERE I COME FROM, WE END UP.
WE DON'T USE THOSE IN BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT'S SO LOUD FROM THE COMMON SPACE.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SO MANY BUILDINGS BUILT LIKE THIS.
THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. YOU WALK IN, THEY HAVE HUGE ATRIUMS AND THEN AS A TEACHER, AND I'M SURE ANY TEACHER WOULD SAY THAT IT'S HARD TO TEACH WHEN IT'S NOISY OUTSIDE AND YOU CAN
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HEAR THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.SO ACOUSTICS IS SOMETHING THAT WE VERY MUCH LOOK AT IN THE NOISE CREATED IN TERMS OF THE FLOOR MATERIAL TO REDUCING NOISE FROM THE NRCS CREATED.
AND SO THAT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE.
AND I WOULD SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT SUCCESS HIGH SCHOOL HAS A SIMILAR CONFIGURATION AS THIS.
THE ACOUSTICS WORK PRETTY WELL IN THERE.
OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT THEN IS THE CLASSROOMS. SO I COUNTED ON SLIDE 31.
I THINK I COUNTED 11 CLASSROOMS AND THREE LABS.
SO WHAT IS THIS SPACE DESIGNED FOR? HOW MANY STUDENTS? IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR ALL 500; RIGHT? IT'S DESIGNED FOR THE 500, BUT THERE, REMEMBER THAT THEY'RE SHARING BUILDINGS WITH ACC.
THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING, THOUGH.
HOW MANY STUDENTS IS THIS? 14 CLASSROOMS IS NOT VERY MANY.
I MEAN, WE'RE DOING IT IN ELEMENTARY WITH 16 CLASSROOMS. SO I'LL LEAVE IT THIS.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE DID DO A VERY DEEP STUDY IN TERMS OF THE MASTER SCHEDULE TO REALLY LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS, THE NUMBER OF TEACHING SPACES, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATELY ALIGNED FOR THE CORE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS SCIENCE BALANCED WITH WHAT THEY'RE USING AT ACC.
OK, SO THREE? TRUSTEE BONE, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU JUST ONLY BECAUSE I SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE.
I REMEMBER THAT MOST OF THE TIME, LIKE FRESHMEN ARE ON CAMPUS LIKE 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. BUT BY THE TIME THEY'RE SENIORS, THEY'RE NOT ON CAMPUS, THEY'RE OUT IN THE ACC BUILDINGS. SO YOU REALLY DON'T NEED A SPACE FOR 500 STUDENTS AND IT'S REALLY MORE ALONG THE LINES YOU'RE GEARING TOWARDS ABOUT 200 TO 300 IN ANY GIVEN TIME, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN ALL THERE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE IN ACC DOING CLASSES IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEN COME BACK INTO OUR BUILDING AND IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
AND SO I KNEW THAT WE DID NOT NEED AS LARGE OF A FACILITY BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS A TARGETED POPULATION. AND REALLY ONLY YOUR FIRST YEAR IN ECHS.
DID YOU ACTUALLY SPEND MOST OF YOUR DAY IN THAT BUILDING? AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT SLOWLY GOT LESS AND LESS AND YOU TRANSITIONED INTO THE OTHER.
YEAH, I REMEMBER THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SAME COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE NUMBER WAS THAT WAS IN EVENTUALLY, BECAUSE WE ON THE COMMITTEE, WE THREW OUT ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WE STILL ONLY HAVE 300 AND SOME OF THE STUDENTS IN THE WHOLE PROGRAM, NOT 500.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
ALSO IS THREE LABS THE RIGHT NUMBER? I GUESS I JUST LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON WHERE THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM.
WHY IS 11 THE RIGHT NUMBER? WHY IS THREE LABS THE RIGHT NUMBER? I MEAN, IT GOES BACK TO TRUSTEE FELLER.
JUST HOW MANY KIDS DO YOU THINK ARE ON CAMPUS AT A TIME? I MEAN, I GET THAT THEY'RE MOVING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING.
WE CAN SHARE THAT. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
TRUSTEE WESTON? THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 27.
AND ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THIS PROJECT, I SEE SIX INDIVIDUALS FROM AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND ONE INDIVIDUAL FROM ROUND ROCK ISD, MS. SWAIN, WHO I KNOW FROM WHEN I WAS ON THE GIFTED AND TALENTED DISTRICT WIDE COMMITTEE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY MR. MUCHER AND THE PRINCIPAL AND? IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST LINE, IT SAYS ALL PROJECT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SO EVERYBODY IN THE TOP SECTION, PLUS EVERYBODY IN THE BOTTOM SECTION.
OK. AND SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THIS GROUP MET? DURING THE DESIGN PHASE, PROBABLY JULY TIME FRAME.
SO THAT WAS AS WE WERE FINISHING THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
THAT'S WHEN WE'VE MET AND THEN NOW THIS IS THE NEXT STEP TO BE ABLE TO BRING THE BOARD UP TO SPEED. SO THIS GROUP HAS MET ONE TIME? NO, NO, NO. WE'VE MET EIGHT TIMES.
AND JULY WAS THE MOST RECENT? YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE THAT WAS THE END OF THE DESIGN PHASE PROCESS, AND SO NOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, OK, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS AND THE TRANSITION? SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING LIKE AZAIEZ UP TO DATE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ACC SIDE, SO HE'S AWARE. AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO COME BACK AFTER WE DECIDE WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL AND BRING THAT GROUP BACK UP TO SPEED? OK. DID WE GET AN ANSWER TO DR.
BONE'S QUESTION? DOES THE DISTRICT HAVE ANY FACILITIES ON PROPERTY THAT IT DOES NOT OWN? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT, I DO NOT KNOW TONIGHT.
OK, BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF ANY, BUT I GUESS, CAN YOU JUST LET US KNOW WHEN CONVENIENT IF THIS IS AN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY FOR US, I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD DATA POINT.
AND I'M ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN THIS MOU.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.
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HINSON, EARLIER WHEN YOU WERE FIRST TALKING, YOU SORT OF MADE MENTION LIKE MAYBE THERE WAS SOME AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT IS THERE SOME CONCERN ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO ACHIEVE AN MOU? NO, NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF.I'M STRICTLY WAS TRYING TO BE PROVIDE SOME RATIONALE.
SO WHY DID WE BACK OUT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL OUT OF THE BUDGET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION? CAN YOU REMIND ME, WHY DO WE BACK THAT OUT? WELL, SO WE DID BACK IT OUT SO THAT WE COULD.
WE WERE TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD FOR ALL OF THOSE 55 PROJECTS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID EARLIER, OUT OF THE $15 MILLION THAT ARE EARMARKED FOR EARLY COLLEGE RIGHT NOW, ONLY I'M GOING TO SAY A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
I MENTIONED A RANGE EARLIER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.
OK, SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE IN SO PREMATURE IN THE PROJECT LIFE CYCLE, THAT'S WHY WE BACKED IT OUT? YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
YES. I SPENT SOME TIME LOOKING AT THE ENROLLMENT FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S INTERESTING FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIXTY SEVEN SENIORS, 61 JUNIORS, 118 SOPHOMORES AND 102 FRESHMEN.
THIS IS ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE ON THE ENROLLMENT REPORTS.
THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT A DECLINE OF 25 STUDENTS FROM SEPTEMBER AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. I'M CURRENTLY ON HIGH SCHOOLERS NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE COMING THROUGH MY HOUSE.
AND I KNOW THAT FOR A LOT OF STUDENTS, THE HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE THE ACADEMICS IS THEIR LEAST FAVORITE PART OF IT.
THEY COME BECAUSE ATHLETICS, FINE ARTS EXTRACURRICULARS.
SO AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I GET IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT SOMETIMES THAT'S A BARRIER FOR STUDENTS WHEN CONSIDERING EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I'VE ALSO SPENT THE WEEK LOOKING AT EARLY COLLEGE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.
ARE WE ON YEAR FIVE OR SIX? DO YOU REMEMBER FOR EARLY COLLEGE? SIXTH YEAR. OK.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WERE DOWN 3000 STUDENTS FROM WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE HERE. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $15 MILLION BUILDING FOR 500 STUDENTS.
DR. AZAIEZ, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU OR ONE OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH US AS WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SHEPHERD LITERALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T OWN WITH SOME? I THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEN THIS BOND WAS PASSED BEFORE COVID.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU OR ANYBODY FROM YOUR STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US AS WE CONSIDER SOME OF THE STUFF? I'LL TAKE A STAB AT YOUR QUESTION.
THE POINT OF VIEW THAT WENT INTO THE WORK OF THIS DESIGN AND MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION WAS HOW IS IT THAT ROUND ROCK ISD CAN POSITION ITSELF BESIDES PORTABLES ON THE CAMPUS OF ACC AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT WAS A PRIMARY GOAL IN CREATING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT DO WE OR DO WE NOT PURSUE BUYING LAND? BECAUSE LAND IS OBVIOUSLY AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
AND HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO ELIMINATE SOME OF OUR COSTS THAT WOULD BE FIRST COST? SUCH AS, THEY HAVE A VERY ADEQUATE CENTRAL PLANT SYSTEM AND THIS SITE IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THEIR CENTRAL PLANT.
SO WHY WOULD WE BUILD ANOTHER CENTRAL PLANT? BECAUSE THEY'RE CREATING COLD WATER.
WHY DO WE NEED TO CREATE COLD WATER AND HAVE THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS WITH US? AND SO THE THE FOCUS IN THAT SORT OF ARENA IN OPERATIONAL COST, FIRST COSTS WAS A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION.
PARKING? THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKING STRUCTURE AND SURFACE SITE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE USING THEIR PARKING.
WE HAVE NO EXPENSE IN THAT AREA AND THEY'RE ACCOMMODATING OUR STAFF PARKING.
SO THE ONLY ASK THAT REALLY CAME OF THIS BUILDING DESIGN WAS CAN OUR STUDENTS ACCESS THE
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FOOD SERVICE BECAUSE WE ARE OBLIGATED.FOOD SERVICE, AS YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY USE A FOOD SERVICE TRUCK.
AND SO YOU SEE THE KITCHEN THERE SO THAT IT'S A BIT MORE ACCOMMODATING AND THE CAFETERIA OR THE COMMONS. BUT YOU'LL SEE AN ALCOVE THERE ON THE LOWER LEFT SIDE SO THAT ACC STUDENTS CAN COME UP TO AN ORDER WINDOW AND ORDER THEIR HAMBURGER OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, THAT SORT OF THING SO THAT AGAIN, THE STUDENTS ARE ARE THEY'RE SHARING THAT EXPERIENCE FROM THAT POINT AND WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE ACC.
WELL, I THINK MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING ON LAND THAT WE DON'T OWN, THERE IS SOME RISK.
OK? WE I THINK WE ALL BELIEVE AND WOULD HOPE THAT THE RISK IS VERY SMALL, BUT THERE'S SOME RISK. AND WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE OF THE ENROLLMENT REALITIES THAT EXIST TODAY THAT DID NOT EXIST IN 2018, I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE AND INPUT FROM YOU, DR.
AZAIEZ ON, YOU KNOW, IS THE SCALE OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED CONSISTENT WITH THE RISK? IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE REALITIES OF CURRENT ENROLLMENT FIGURES? IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES THAT HAVE PERSISTED AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL? IS IT CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE ECONOMIC REALITIES? SHOULD THERE BE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SCALE TO MINIMIZE THE EXPOSURE TO RISK? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, PRESIDENT, WHERE IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME TO THE BOARD THIS EARLY? OK, SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS ON EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU AS ONE TRUSTEE, THESE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND IT'S OK IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TONIGHT.
BUT THIS IS WHY WE HAVE MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START EXPRESSING THEM.
TRUSTEE WESTON, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, WHEN I FIRST HEARD WE DISCUSSED EARLY COLLEGE, I SHARED THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT THE MOU MYSELF AND I REMEMBER TALKING TO THE TEAM AND I SAID, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO START THIS ENDEAVOR, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY, VERY TIGHT MOU BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY AND THAT WE PUT OUR DISTRICT FIRST.
NOW, DR. RHODES AND ACC, THEY ARE GREAT PARTNER; RIGHT? THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER FOR YEARS WITH ROUND ROCK ISD.
THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, ALTHOUGH THE NUMBERS ARE SMALL, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW HUNDRED STUDENTS WHO THERE WILL BE THE FIRST TO GO TO ATTEND COLLEGE AND GET AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE, AT THE VERY LEAST, AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE, RIGHT? SO I THINK ALTHOUGH THE NUMBERS MAY BE SMALL, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND PROVIDING SOME, SOME HOPE FOR THESE STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE OR ATTEND EVEN OR RECEIVE AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE, I THINK I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TO INVEST IN THIS.
HOWEVER, AS I SAID, MOU NEEDS TO BE VERY, VERY TIGHT AND WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU EVENTUALLY AT SOME POINT.
THE OTHER THING IS ALSO BECAUSE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S WHAT'S CALLED THE SCHOOL OF CHOICE. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAYBE DO A BETTER JOB RECRUITING SO WE CAN INCREASE OUR NUMBERS. THIS IS NOT A NORMAL OR, I GUESS, A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS A SCHOOL OF CHOICE WHERE STUDENTS HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION OR THEIR PARENTS TO SEND THEM TO THIS EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB, MAYBE ADVOCATE ADVERTISING FOR THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE STUDENTS TO EVENTUALLY GET AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AT 18 YEARS OLD.
SO I THINK I DO SHARE SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING VERY HARD AT THIS MOU AND MAKING SURE THAT WE BRINGING TO THIS IMMEDIATE ATTENTION BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THE MOU AND IT'S NOT.
IT'S NOT THE THE WHETHER OR NOT I THINK EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS A GOOD IDEA, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ROUND ROCK ISD DOES WELL IS ADVERTISING EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. I KNOW WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY GOT A GREAT, YOU KNOW, EXPLANATION. THEY CAME HOME, THEY WERE ASKING QUESTIONS AND THE SAME THING, OH, I CAN'T BE IN THE BAND AND GO TO EARLY COLLEGE? AND I CAN'T DO SPORTS AND DO EARLY COLLEGE? SO I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A I THINK THAT TO THE DISTRICT'S CREDIT, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN ADVERTISING.
BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME NATURAL BARRIERS, YOU KNOW, THAT EXIST.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS JUST REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THIS, DOES THIS PROJECT IS THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT NEED TO BE REVISITED GIVEN SOME OF THE ECONOMIC AND ENROLLMENT REALITIES THAT ARE DIFFERENT TODAY THAN THEY WERE WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED?
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SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW MY CONCERNS ON THAT OUT THERE TO YOU.THANK YOU. TRUSTEE BONE? SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
WAS THE ORIGINAL PRICE? WAS THAT INCLUDING BUYING THE LAND BECAUSE I WAS ON THIS AND I REMEMBER THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS EVEN DURING THE BOARD COMMITTEE.
AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE LAND THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A LITTLE SNIPPET OF LAND ON ACC'S CAMPUS.
SO CAN YOU? WAS THE COST INCLUDING LAND? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY.
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THE THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF WHAT THE BOND CONSTITUTION CALLS FOR. THE $15 MILLION THAT'S IN THE BOND PROGRAM RIGHT NOW CALLS FOR THE DESIGN, THE THE POTENTIAL LAND PURCHASE, THE ENTITLEMENTS, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE RELATED TO THAT, IT'S NOT IN VOCABULARY, BUT IT ALSO CALLS FOR WHAT'S CALLED THE PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT IS JUST TO DO THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, WHICH IS JUST TO COST THE BUILDING.
AND SO ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S WITHIN THE BOND PROGRAM HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE AT THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO SAY THAT PHASE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. THAT $15 MILLION, AS MR. HENSON HAS MENTIONED, IS THAT WE HAVE SPENT SOME EXPENSES IN SOFT COSTS AND DIFFERENT WORKS OF THAT, BUT THE CONTINUATION OF THAT EXPENDITURE, THAT $15 MILLION WOULD POTENTIALLY BE THE PURCHASE OF LAND.
AND OR HOWEVER, THAT MAY START MOVING, AND SO WHEN I SAY THE FOCUS OF THIS PROJECT CONVERSATION IN CITING THE BUILDING WAS LET'S NOT TRY TO SPEND OUR MONEY ON BUYING LAND BECAUSE THE DISTRICT AS FAR AS ACC COMPATIBILITY WORKS SUCH THAT $10 A YEAR FOR A LEASE FOR GRATUITY MAY BE A MUCH BETTER DEAL THAN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A PIECE OF LAND FOR INDEPENDENCE.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT ADVANTAGE WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE INNER CAMPUS VERSUS OUTER CAMPUS. AND AT THE TIME OF THAT DISCUSSION, THE VALUE OF INNER CAMPUS WAS GREATER THAN THE VALUE OUT OF CAMPUS FROM A STUDENT'S PERSPECTIVE AND OR AN EDUCATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT BUILDING THIS BUILDING, IT WAS ALWAYS THE DRIVE AND THE INTENTION WAS TO ACCOMPLISH THE BOND PROGRAM.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION WITH ENOUGH SURPLUS TO GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES, LET'S USE SURPLUS IN THE BOND TO BUILD THE BUILDING IN OUR ERA.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THEN; YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BUILDING WAS NOT IN THE BOND PACKAGE? NO. JUST RIGHT UP TO.
OK, SO AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR US TO KNOW.
SO THIS WAS FOR LAND PURCHASE, THE 15 MILLION, THE BULK OF THAT? I DO REMEMBER THESE DISCUSSIONS, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER.
AND THEN THE ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, IT'S A SMALL QUESTION.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING, I DIDN'T.
I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO RESTROOMS. ARE THERE RESTROOMS AND I'M JUST NOT NOTICING THEM? IF YOU LOOK IN BETWEEN THE FITNESS AND THE COMMONS, YOU'LL SEE LIKE A LITTLE WHITE AREA.
THOSE ARE THE RESTROOMS ON EACH LEVEL? OK. JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT HASN'T BEEN OVERLOOKED AND THEY'RE KIND OF IMPORTANT.
TRUSTEE FELLER? I JUST I WANTED TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT TRUSTEE WESTON SAID, BECAUSE I THINK YOU MAKE A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.
EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL FOUR YEAR HIGH SCHOOL.
IT CATERS TO A VERY UNIQUE STUDENT THAT DOESN'T WANT THE ATHLETICS, THAT DOESN'T WANT THE THE DANCE AND THE FINE ARTS.
AND IT'S FOR A VERY MOTIVATED STUDENT WHO SAYS, I WANT THE ACADEMICS, AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR A STUDENT TO GO THAT ROUTE THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ACADEMIC ROUTE AND GET OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE.
AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT ALSO OPENS UP AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WHEN THEY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THEY ARE EMPLOYABLE WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS BOARD SPECIFICALLY HOW FOUR YEAR TRADITIONAL COLLEGE IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO THIS REALLY PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS THAT DON'T WANT
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THE BAND AND THE ATHLETICS AND ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF.AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND 400.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT OUR ENROLLMENT HAS DECLINED SINCE THE START OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, BUT WE'VE BEEN RUNNING AROUND 400 STUDENTS SINCE WE HIT FOUR YEARS THERE AND THAT'S FOR A CAMPUS THAT'S MADE UP ENTIRELY OF PORTABLES.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER HIGHLY MOTIVATED STUDENT THAT IS WILLING TO LEAVE SOME OF OUR GORGEOUS CAMPUSES THAT ARE LAID OUT ON ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES TO GO AND SIT IN PORTABLE BUILDINGS ALL DAY.
I'VE TOURED THAT CAMPUS AND THE DAY I WENT UP THERE, IT WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF MISTING AND THE KIDS WERE OUTSIDE IN THAT LITTLE OPEN AREA PLAYING FOOTBALL.
IT WAS LIKE A BREAK BETWEEN CLASSES AND I MEAN, THESE ARE HIGHLY MOTIVATED KIDS THAT WANT TO SIT ON A BUS FROM WESTWOOD ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTHEAST ROUND ROCK BECAUSE THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS.
SPEND FORTY FIVE MINUTES PLUS ON A BUS EVERY DAY EACH WAY.
AND SO I THINK IT SHOWS A COMMITMENT FROM ROUND ROCK ISD.
IT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR AROUND 500 STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, NOT OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THEM BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THIS HAS BEEN THE SCOPE FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE MAY BE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT, BUT I JUST I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS THAT, YEAH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL NOT ACCESS IT. BUT FOR THOSE THAT DO, IT IS A VITAL RESOURCE.
AND THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT SAYS EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS ARE WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL IF THEY ARE ON THE CAMPUS OF A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
WE LOOKED AT MAYBE PUTTING THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROPERTY UP IN THAT AREA, MAYBE A FUTURE HIGH SCHOOL SITE AND BUSING THE KIDS OVER TO THE ACC CAMPUS, BUT THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT KIDS ARE WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY ARE FULLY INTEGRATED INTO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE CAMPUS AND CAN SEAMLESSLY GO BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT AND MY INPUT ON IT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SUCH A VALUABLE PROGRAM, AND I KIND OF THINK OF IT AS LIKE THAT MOVIE, THE FIELD OF DREAMS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
I REALLY DO THINK THAT WE WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR ENROLLMENT WHEN WE HAVE THIS BUILDING AND THEY CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS IS YOUR HOME, THIS IS YOUR SCHOOL.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE OFFERING THE METAL BOXES AND THEY'RE COMING.
AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS HAVE HAPPENED ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO WHILE I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOU AND PROTECTING THE DISTRICT, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEING DONE ELSEWHERE.
I THINK THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER MOUS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY COORDINATED WITH OTHER DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES AROUND THE STATE AND LOOK AT THOSE MOUS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
LEARN FROM IT, SO WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL AND THEN JUST TWEAKING THE WHEEL FOR ROUND ROCK ISD.
BUT I JUST I THINK I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF SAY ALL THAT.
I DON'T MEAN TO GET ON A SOAPBOX OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF VALUE IN THIS PROGRAM. AND I WENT TO THE FIRST HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE EXCITED GROUP TO WALK ACROSS THE STAGE AND FAMILIES WHO ARE SEEING THEIR FIRST COLLEGE GRADUATE AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE THAT COMES ACROSS WITH COLLEGE CREDIT AND AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, AND A FAMILY THAT NEVER THOUGHT COLLEGE WAS IN THEIR GRASP. AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME CONCERNS AND IT'S A NEW PROJECT FOR THIS BOARD TO BE LOOKING AT, BUT IT IS A A HUGE RESOURCE THAT ROUND ROCK ISD CAN OFFER.
TRUSTEE XIAO? TRUSTEE FELLER JUST SAID EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
WHEN TRUSTEE WESTON SAID ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL IS ALL ABOUT EXTRACURRICULAR, ABOUT BAND FOOTBALL, NOT ABOUT ACADEMIC.
IT REALLY, REALLY HURT MY FEELINGS, RIGHT? IN SOME SENSE.
WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, NOT JUST AT K-12.
THE PROBLEM IS ALSO AT COLLEGE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SAY, WELL, GO TO COLLEGE, AND IT'S FOR STUDENT CENTERS.
WHOEVER COLLEGE HAS A BEAUTIFUL STUDENT CENTER, ATTRACT MORE DORMITORY, ATTRACT MORE STUDENTS. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT EDUCATION ITSELF LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN HIRE, PUT MORE MONEY INTO TEACHERS, HAVE HIGH QUALITY PROGRAMS, LET A STUDENTS GRADUATE ON TIME.
FOR A LONG TIME, WE JUST IGNORED A CERTAIN POPULATION OF STUDENTS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY LOOKING INTO ACADEMICS.
YEAH, THEY'RE ARE STUDENTS LOOKING TO ENJOY BAND, ENJOY FOOTBALL, ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT
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THERE ARE CERTAIN POPULATIONS IN THIS SCHOOL IN THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM REALLY, REALLY WANT A SCHOOL THAT FOCUS ON ACADEMICS.FOR A LONG TIME WE'RE IGNORING THOSE STUDENTS.
AND WE'RE LOSING THIS PART OF STUDENT FIRST GENERATION STUDENT LOSING THE CHARTER SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY ARE FOCUSED ON ACADEMICS.
NOT AN EMPHASIS ON EXTRACURRICULAR.
WE NEED TO FIND SOME WAYS TO GET THOSE STUDENTS BACK.
AND THIS, I'M NOT SAYING IN A CURRENT WAY THAT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE RIGHT FORM OR RENTING OR BUYING THE LAND IS THE RIGHT FORM, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THIS.
TRUSTEE WESTON? SO PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND EXERCISE OVERSIGHT, AND DOING SO DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A LACK OF SUPPORT.
A FRIEND OF MINE WAS TEXTING ME FEVERISHLY OVER THE SUMMER BECAUSE HER SON DESPERATELY WANTED TO GAIN ACCESS TO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL AND WAS WAIT LISTED AND WAIT LISTED AND WAIT LISTED.
AND THEN I REMEMBER FINALLY, A FEW DAYS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED GETTING THE GREAT NEWS THAT HIS NAME HAD MOVED TO THE TOP AND HOW EXCITING THAT WAS.
SO I KNOW FAMILIES WHO HAVE CHILDREN AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING WISE AND PRUDENT FISCAL DECISIONS.
WE JUST BUILT REDBUD ELEMENTARY.
IS REDBUD ELEMENTARY SITTING HALF EMPTY RIGHT NOW, MR. WOOSTER? IT HAS APPROXIMATELY 400 STUDENTS IN IT, AND SO YES, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 50 PERCENT. RIGHT.
AND I WOULD ASK, AM I THE ONLY PERSON AT THIS DAIS WHO IS ACTUALLY A COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATE? IS ANYBODY ELSE AT THE DAIS, A COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATE? YEAH. SO I ACTUALLY I'M THE ONLY PERSON UP HERE WHO HAS ACTUALLY ATTENDED AND GRADUATED FROM A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
SO I AM VERY CLEAR ON THE NEED AND THE VALUE THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGE BRINGS TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT.
TRUSTEE HARRISON? GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE XIAO, AND THEN I'LL PICK UP AFTER HIM.
SO WHEN I SEE THIS, YES, WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY, OVERSIGHT TO BE EFFICIENT, AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE IN A SCHOOL OPERATIONS.
BUT THE REALITY IS ALL THE SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEM HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WHY THIS HAPPENED? BECAUSE WE NEVER IN OUR MIND BUILD REDUNDANCY.
WE JUST SHOOT FOR MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY.
WHEN COVID HIT, EVERYTHING BREAKS DOWN.
THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DEAL.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DEAL.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT INVESTING MONEY WISELY, NOT JUST INVEST.
YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT MONEY TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE RIGHT IN THE RIGHT FORM. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SPEND MONEY WISELY.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE, YEAH, IF WE CAN PUT THOSE PROJECTS INTO BOND MONEY, WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO.
WHY WE SHOULD SPEND MOU FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN USE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE CAN USE ALL MORE [INAUDIBLE] ON THE HIRING TEACHERS; RIGHT? SO THAT'S. TRUSTEE HARRISON? THANK YOU. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO AFFIRM WHAT MY COLLEAGUES TRUSTEE FELLER AND TRUSTEE XIAO SAID. TRUSTEE WESTON I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ASKED THE HARD QUESTIONS AND I HEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE ASKING HARD QUESTIONS.
I JUST I GUESS I PERSONALLY WANT TO AFFIRM MY COMMITMENT TO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
I DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED NUMBERS, BUT 33 PERCENT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. AND SO THROUGH OUR QUESTIONING, I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY DOUBT TO OUR COMMITMENT. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ALL OF US A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY TO STUDENTS, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND I WANT TO BALANCE OUR TOUGH QUESTIONS WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO THIS WORK AND PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS.
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TRUSTEE BONE? SO THE CONVERSATION I WAS JUST GOING TO REQUEST, MAYBE WE GET AN EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL UPDATE AND BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND THERE HAS BEEN TO TRUSTEE WESTON COMMENTS.EVEN BACK IN 2018, THERE WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IF EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL WAS MEETING WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO MEET BECAUSE 70 PERCENT OF THE STUDENTS ON THAT CAMPUS ARE NOT ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, AND THERE WASN'T THE NUMBER OF FIRST GENERATION THAT WE WERE WANTING TO SEE.
WE BEING THE COLLECTIVE BOARD BACK WHEN EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL WAS DEVELOPED.
SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST REQUEST THEN BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT BE ASKED TO MAKE A BIG DECISION.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
A BIG OVERVIEW, INCLUDING NUMBERS AND ENROLLMENT, BECAUSE TRUSTEE WESTON DOES BRING UP GOOD POINTS OF WE HAVE 60 SOMETHING SENIORS, AND THIS TREND HAS CONTINUED.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE SIX YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN OPEN WHERE THE SENIOR CLASSES HAVE NOT BEEN WHAT THE FRESHMAN CLASSES WERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SO THE TRENDS IN ENROLLMENT AND TRENDS FROM WHO STAYS IN IT, FROM FRESHMAN TO SENIORS.
IF WE COULD HAVE JUST KIND OF A REALLY GOOD OVERVIEW OF ALL THE NUMBERS, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE HELPFUL FOR US.
WE MAKE HARD DECISIONS UP HERE AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS WITH NUMBERS.
AND I LOVE THE KIDS AND I AM COMMITTED TO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT I'M ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE SPEND MONEY IN ONE PLACE, WE MIGHT BE TAKING IT AWAY FROM OTHER STUDENTS IN OTHER PLACES.
AND I KNOW EIGHTH GRADERS DECIDE IN FEBRUARY, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY IS THAT WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL? SO THEN IS THAT ABOUT THE TIME WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE FRESHMAN CLASS IS SUPPOSED IS PROJECTED TO BE THIS YEAR? BUT I THINK THAT'S WHEN THEY START THE APPLICATION.
I THINK, RIGHT, DR. WILSON? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THE DECLARATION FORM SHOULD BE OPENING UP NEXT WEEK.
THE COMMUNITY INPUT, THE COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENT OF THAT DECLARATION FORM OPENING UP WILL GO OUT PROBABLY NEXT WEEKEND THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IS A FANTASTIC PLACE.
I HAVE ONLY BEEN A PART OF THIS WONDERFUL SCHOOL COMMUNITY, THIS IS MY SECOND YEAR.
BUT WITHIN THAT TIME, I REALLY HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE DEDICATION OF OUR STUDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST, WITH NOT JUST THE EFFORTS THAT THEY PUT FORTH, BUT IN ALL THAT THEY BRING AND ALL THAT THEY MAKE.
EARLY COLLEGE IN ITS CULTURE, THEY ARE THE KEEPERS OF OUR CULTURE.
SO THE STUDENTS WHO ARE A PART OF EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
YES, THE NUMBERS STARTED SMALLER WHEN IT ORIGINALLY BEGAN IN 2016.
IT WAS A GRASSROOTS AND A BEGINNING PROGRAM.
FROM THAT TIME, THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WITHIN THESE PAST TWO YEARS HAS PARTNERED WITH US IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THEY HAVE ADVERTISED AND THEY HAVE REALLY MADE SURE THAT THE WORD WAS OUT THROUGH LETTERS THROUGH WEBSITE THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED FOR US.
AND WITH THAT, THIS PAST CLASS, OUR FRESHMAN CLASS, AS WELL AS OUR SOPHOMORE CLASS, WAS ABLE TO FEEL UP TO ALMOST THE 125.
SOME STUDENTS HAVE MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES ONCE THEY HAVE STARTED THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT IS AN EXTREMELY RIGOROUS PROGRAM.
WE ARE ASKING OF OUR STUDENTS AT THE AGES OF 14 TO NOT ONLY BE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, BUT TO ALSO BE COLLEGE STUDENTS AND TO PROGRESS WITH THAT MINDSET.
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR STUDENTS, JUST BASED ON BEING ADOLESCENTS, ARE AT DIFFERENT RANGES IN TERMS OF THEIR READINESS LEVEL FOR THAT.
BUT WE HAVE SO MANY DEDICATED SUPPORT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THEY ARE NOT JUST RECEIVING THE ACADEMIC PIECE AND THE KEEPERS OF THE CULTURE.
OUR STUDENTS ARE ALSO LEADING OUT AS LEADERS ON OUR CAMPUS THROUGH THE MENTORING PROGRAM THROUGH NHS.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE ENRICHMENT AND ON FRIDAYS IT LOOKS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR COLLEGE CLASSES MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
BUT ON FRIDAYS WE ARE ABLE TO INSERT OUR INTERVENTIONS TO MAKE SURE OUR STUDENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED AND THAT THEY ARE ALSO LEADING THEIR OWN ENRICHMENT CLUBS.
AND SO WITH THOSE ENRICHMENT CLUBS, THEY ARE INCORPORATING THEIR SOCCER CLUBS.
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THEY'RE DOING ZUMBA.THEY ARE THEY HAVE JAPANESE CLUB FOR CLERICAL.
AND SO THEY ARE REPRESENTING THROUGH THE INTEREST THAT THEY HAVE AND OUR TEACHERS ARE HELPING TO FACILITATE THOSE AREAS.
AND SO I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST SEEM LIKE IT'S JUST A PLACE WHERE WE'RE JUST PUSHING OUR WAY, PUSHING STUDENTS THROUGH.
IT'S JUST ACADEMICS AND NOTHING ELSE.
THERE IS A WONDERFUL CULTURE AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, AND I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO GET MISSED IN THE CONVERSATION.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE DEDICATED FANTASTIC TEACHERS AND A WONDERFUL PARENT GROUP THAT SUPPORTS EVERY MOVE THAT WE ARE MAKING.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTIC PIECES.
I UNDERSTAND THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE MOU PIECES, AND I KNOW THAT IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT CONTINUES.
BUT I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE HEART OF WHAT THIS SCHOOL IS ABOUT AND SPEAK TO THE SUCCESSES THAT IT HAS ALREADY BROUGHT.
AND IT'S NOT YET IT REALLY DOESN'T APPEAR WHAT IT'S STILL SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT WE'RE ADDING TO AND IT BECOMING BETTER EACH YEAR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. I SEE. ACTUALLY, CAN I JUST ASK YOU REAL QUICK BECAUSE YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO OPEN NEXT WEEK? WHEN WHEN DOES IT ACTUALLY CLOSE? BECAUSE I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO DECIDE WHEN THAT DATA WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US.
SO IT WILL NOT OFFICIALLY CLOSE OUT.
BUT WHEN WE DO THE FIRST LOTTERY, IT'S AT THE END OF JANUARY.
TRUSTEE HARRISON, DID YOU HAVE ANY? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I THINK IT WAS COVERED.
WILSON. ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS, BUT I'M GOING TO LOOK UP AND DOWN JUST IN CASE. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IT IS EIGHT O'CLOCK AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHARTER AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THE POLICIES.
HMM. I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, OH, THANK YOU FOR WAITING AROUND, SO I APPRECIATE IT. IF WE COULD TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
IS TEN MINUTES ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY? AND COME BACK AT 8:10 AND DO THE LAST THREE ITEMS. OK, IT'S 8:12.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL BACK TO ORDER, I'M JUST GOING TO APOLOGIZE, THOUGH, FOR JUST A SECOND TO MY COLLEAGUES.
I'M GOING TO KEEP MY PHONE WITH ME FOR JUST A SECOND.
THERE IS MAYBE AN EMERGENCY AT MY HOUSE, SO I MAY HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF JUST WAITING TO HEAR FROM MY SON. ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON REAL QUICK AND GO AHEAD AND GO BACK.
ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOU OR IF IT'S ME, MR. WOOSTER, FOR THE.
PRESIDENT WEIR, IS THAT WE ONLY HAVE A SLIDE HERE TO KICK IT OFF TO YOU.
OK, I THINK ALL THE TRUSTEES AND I THINK WE POSTED THE BOND OVERSIGHT CHARTER CHANGES.
SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CHARTER FROM MAY THAT TRUSTEES BONE AND WESTON BROUGHT TO US.
I KNOW TRUSTEE BONE WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING.
AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, SO I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE NAME MEETING AND JUST ADDED THE COMMENTS FROM THE MAY MEETING IN HERE IN RED.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S JUST COMING BEFORE YOU.
THOUGH THERE WERE SOME LEGAL HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT US.
WELL, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT US TURNING OVER THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON THE MONEY THAT IS SPENT TO VOLUNTEERS.
SO THOSE THINGS WERE ALSO TAKEN OUT SO THAT IT DOES COME BACK TO THE TRUSTEES FOR ANY VOTING. THERE IS NO VOTING ON PROJECT SCOPE AND CHANGE BY A VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE.
AND I GUESS I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENT AT THIS POINT.
TRUSTEE WESTON? WELL, I GUESS I COULD START BY SAYING, I AGREE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WISE TO, YOU KNOW, DELEGATE AN AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE WITH REGARD TO TAX DOLLARS.
I KNOW THAT A CONCERN THAT HAS RESONATED IS THAT THE SCOPE OF PROJECTS SOMETIMES WE HAVE SCOPE CREEP.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON? AND I DON'T WANT TO ABDICATE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO HOW DO WE PREVENT SOME OF THE SCOPE CREEP AND BUDGET CREEP THAT WE'VE SEEN? HOW DO WE? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YOU KNOW, AS I WENT THROUGH WHAT YOU ALL HAD ALREADY WRITTEN, AND I KNOW THAT IS ONE OF
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THE FRUSTRATING THINGS ABOUT BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT THERE IS NOT ANY POWER, THERE IS NOT ANY REAL OVERSIGHT.AND YOU KNOW, YOU VOLUNTEER FOR A COMMITTEE AND YOU JUST SIT THERE AND GET INFORMATION AND THEN REGURGITATE INFORMATION AND WE LOSE PEOPLE.
SO IT DOES GIVE THE SAME POWER THAT YOU ALL INITIALLY HAD TO REQUEST INFORMATION TO DO ALL THAT. BUT THE TWO TRUSTEES THAT ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE OR THE LIAISONS TO THAT COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE ONES IN THE MEETING TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD IS HOW IT'S WRITTEN.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I REMEMBER EARLIER WHEN MR. WOOSTER WAS TALKING ABOUT CARAWAY, HE SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO, THAT THE, I WOULD CALL IT SCOPE CHANGE, NOT NECESSARILY SCOPE CREEP, BUT NOW YOU'RE USING LANGUAGE LIKE THAT'S GOING TO COME TO US FOR APPROVAL.
SO TO ME, WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS BETTER THAN WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WHEN I WAS SITTING IN ONE OF THOSE CHAIRS FOR YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE CHANGE AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE.
SO IN APRIL, WE GOT A PLAN THAT WAS THE SAME.
AND THEN NOW IT'S CHANGED, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHERE THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SAY, NO, WE HEARD THE BOARD SAY THIS AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY CHANGES, YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE EVEN THAT THEY COULD HAVE A BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR.
CAPITAL COMMUNITY, ANYWAY, THIS NEW NAME COULD HAVE A MEETING AT CARAWAY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE GOING TO THAT THIS COMMITTEE, THE WAY YOU ALL HAVE WRITTEN IT WILL BE ABLE TO DO.
BUT THEN IT'LL JUST BE UP TO THOSE TWO TRUSTEES TO BRING IT BACK TO US AS A BOARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CREEP.
THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT DOLLARS.
THERE'S A CONCERN. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU, OUR TWO TRUSTEES, TAKE IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND HAVE THE BOARD ADDRESS IT.
PRESIDENT WEIR, DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE COMMENTS IN THE SIDE? OH YEAH, THERE WERE SOME.
SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HAD THAT AS I WAS MAKING THESE CHANGES WAS WHO WOULD TAKE THE MINUTES? YOU KNOW, IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS PART, AND I GUESS THAT'S TO TRUSTEE, BONE AND WESTON.
WHO KIND OF WHO DID YOU HAVE THAT IN MIND? LIKE WHO WOULD TAKE THE MINUTES? ARE WE REQUIRING A STAFF MEMBER? THAT'S IN ATTENDANCE, A SUPPORT STAFF MEMBER TO ACTUALLY DO THAT? YEAH. SO THIS WAS DESIGNED OFF OF THE SHACK, WHICH I BELIEVE IN THE SHACK, IT'S A SUPPORT STAFF MEMBER. IF I'M CORRECT, THAT TAKES MINUTES.
I SEE DR. PRESSLEY SHAKING HIS HEAD.
SO THAT WAS THE CONCEPT HERE ALSO IS THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE SAME IN THE COMMITTEE BEFOREHAND IS THAT MINUTES WOULD BE TAKEN BY A STAFF MEMBER.
BECAUSE THERE IS, I BELIEVE, ISN'T IT AT THE END WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THERE ARE STAFF THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, JUST LIKE THEIR STAFF THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHACK.
YOU'RE RIGHT, I SEE IT NOW, A NUMBER NINE WHERE IT SAYS STAFF FACILITATORS.
OK. YEAH. AND THE STAFF ARE THE ONE.
SO THIS IS LIKE I SAID, IT IS REALLY DESIGNED LIKE THE SHACK, WHERE THE STAFF WOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT JUST AS WE GET SHACK MEMBERS THAT ROLL ON AND OFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS WATCHING, IF THERE'S PEOPLE ROLLING ON AND OFF THIS COMMITTEE, THEY WOULD ALSO BE THE ONES BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD.
SO JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF DESIGNED LIKE THE SHACK SINCE THE SHACK FROM OUR LIMITED EXPERIENCE ON THE BOARD SEEMS TO RUN FAIRLY WELL AND STAY CONSISTENTLY RUNNING.
WE WERE TRYING TO MODEL IT A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE SHACK SO THAT IT WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT AND CONSISTENTLY RUN.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, AND THEN SO THEN THAT [INAUDIBLE].
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION AND CHANGE THAT I JUST SORT OF MADE ON MY OWN, I THINK I MENTIONED IT AT THAT MAY MEETING IS ON PAGE SEVEN.
AND I GUESS THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION.
THE THIRD THURSDAY, THE THIRD TUESDAY IS THE SAME WEEK THAT WE HAVE OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
AND SO I HAD SWITCHED IT TO THE FIRST TUESDAY, WHICH WOULD GIVE TWO WEEKS BEFORE A BOARD MEETING. AND THAT WAY, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING FOR THE TWO TRUSTEES TO BRING BACK TO US, STAFF WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE AND GET THAT ON THE AGENDA.
PRESIDENT WEIR AND TRUSTEES, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE WORKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE LONE STAR GOVERNANCE IN CONTEXT OF CONSENT AGENDA AND BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE CONSENT AGENDAS TO YOU EARLIER SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THOSE
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AND BE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENT BACK.AND SO IT IS, I8T'S JUST A THAT WEEK IS A HEAVY WORK LOAD, I SHOULD SAY, OR LOAD, BUT WE'LL ADJUST AND CERTAINLY MAKE THAT WORK AS BEST WE CAN.
SO IS IT BETTER TO DO IT ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AND THEN THAT WAY? ARE YOU SAYING THAT I ASSUME THE FIRST WEEK IS BUSY FOR YOU ALL OF THE MONTH? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH IT WOULD BE THE FIRST.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE WORKING ON A CONSENT AGENDA FOR YOU WHERE YOU ALL NOW.
AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER.
IT WOULD STILL WORK, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK, IT'S JUST IT'S A HEAVY LOAD, IT DEPENDS ON IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY AGENDA ITEMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT ACTUALLY NEED TO COME FORWARD AND. I WOULD BE OK WITH THE FOURTH.
I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU SHOULD JUST CHOOSE WHICHEVER WOULD BE BEST FOR YOU.
I MEAN, YEAH, I EITHER WAY, BUT PROBABLY THE FOURTH I SEE DR.
AZAIEZ SAYING THE FOURTH IS PROBABLY BETTER.
AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THREE WEEKS BEFORE OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING? RIGHT. OK, SO.
AND TRUSTEE WESTON, I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE YOUR? I'M WONDERING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO CODIFY THE DATES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WORKS FOR ONE GROUP AS WE KICK OFF IN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS? YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT TRUSTEES, IS IT? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PUTTING LANGUAGE IN HERE OR AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE COMMITTEE, MADAM CHAIR? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SO NARROW THAT WE'VE GOT TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW.
I AGREE. I MEAN, I WAS JUST SORT OF TRYING TO NOT REALLY CHANGE TOO MUCH FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAFT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE COULD ADD SOMETHING OR AS DEEMED OR SCHEDULING AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT OR, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER THE LEADERSHIP.
WE CAN HONESTLY JUST TAKE THAT WHOLE SENTENCE OUT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IN THE SENATE, IT'S RIGHT BEFORE IT SAYS SHALL MEET MONTHLY.
YEAH, MAYBE JUST UNLESS YOU OBJECT, MR. WOOSTER. NO OBJECTION.
OK. THE OTHER THING WILL STATEMENT, THOUGH, JUST SO YOU NOTICE THE MEETINGS WILL TAKE PLACE. IT'S ACTUALLY JUST I THINK IT'S GOOD TO LEAVE IT IN.
IT JUST GIVES PEOPLE A GUIDELINE IF YOU'RE GOING TO.
IT'S JUST THE GUIDANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT.
SO WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? I WOULD JUST LEAVE THAT SENTENCE IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S A WILL STATEMENT, IT'S NOT A SHALL, SO THEY CAN CHANGE IT.
IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO DO.
IT'S JUST IT'S SETTING IT SO THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS NOW.
YEAH. BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR A GROUP IN THE FUTURE, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT SO THEY CAN CHANGE IT? OK, THANK YOU. SO IT'S JUST BUT IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE, THEY'RE LIKE, WHEN DOES IT MEET? AND IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE BEING ON A COMMITTEE TO BE LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DECIDE EVERY MONTH WHEN IT MEETS, OK, JUST KIND OF NICE TO PUT THIS IN THERE UNTIL IT DOESN'T WORK.
OK. WELL, TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH, TRUSTEE WESTON WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST MAYBE ADD WHEN FEASIBLE AT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE? IF THE OTHERS ARE AGREEABLE TO IT? OR MAYBE SOMETHING AS DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE COMMITTEE? I DON'T WANT TO ADD TOO MUCH LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT EASY TO GET OUT OF HAVING THEM.
AND THAT'S THE I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT IT'S ALONG IN THE SAME SENTENCE THAT SENTENCE BEFORE IT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT ELECTRONICALLY.
WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON AGAIN? PAGE SEVEN UNDER THE MEETINGS SECTION.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ELECTRONICALLY MEANS? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE SENDING AN EMAIL AROUND AND WE'VE MET ELECTRONICALLY. DOES IT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING VIA ZOOM? YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THAT, ACTUALLY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A CHANGE.
SO WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE DID THIS DURING COVID AND WE WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO MEET IN PERSON.
IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET THESE PEOPLE, I THINK, IN OUR FACILITIES AS WELL.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE MEETING AT DIFFERENT PLACES THAT TO KIND OF FACILITATE EXPOSURE.
WHO ADDED ELECTRONICALLY AND WHY? BEFORE WE GET THAT, I WOULDN'T MIND IF WE LEFT AN OPTION FOR IT BECAUSE IT MAY WORK THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS OR WHATEVER, BUT MAYBE PHRASING IT AS SHALL MEET MONTHLY, EITHER IN PERSON OR ELECTRONICALLY AS DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE COMMITTEE.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, JUST LEAVE HIM SOME OPTIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO DO A ZOOM MEETING.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT POWERPOINTS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN MAYBE WE WANT TO DO AN IN-PERSON.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE FLOW IS GOING TO WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE, BUT GIVING THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY. BUT WHEN YOU SAY SHALL MEET MONTHLY ELECTRONICALLY, THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM ANY OTHER OPTIONS TO MEET OTHER THAN JUST SO MAYBE PUT ON A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT AROUND THAT LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE.
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MADAME CHAIR WAS THERE A REASON THAT ELECTRONICALLY WAS PUT IN THERE? I HONESTLY DON'T REMEMBER DOING THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW.OK, SO YOU'RE AMENABLE MEETING EITHER IN PERSON OR ELECTRONICALLY.
OH, ABSOLUTELY. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE FORMER BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH AGAIN, THEY HAVEN'T MET OVER A YEAR; RIGHT? FEBRUARY OF 2020.
FEBRUARY OF 2020? WOW. I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
DO WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO REACH OUT TO CURRENT MEMBERS AND KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE DON'T EVEN LIVE IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT ANYMORE.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME NATURAL ATTRITION THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
BUT DO WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE FORMER MEMBERS, MADAM CHAIR, AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE NEW AND THEN HAVE STAFF FORWARD THOSE NAMES TO US? AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE IF THERE ANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SELECT OR TALK TO OR VET ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS? IS THAT A FAIR ASK OF THE STAFF? I THINK ABSOLUTELY THAT'S A FAIR ASK.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS TO ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS FROM THAT MAY MEETING WAS TO HAVE EACH OF US, DO ONE, HAVE STAFF DO FIVE AND THEN WE WOULD DRAW TWO RANDOMLY FROM A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED.
BECAUSE THERE WAS THAT CONCERN AT THE MEETING THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW SOMEBODY IN ORDER TO GET ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND SO IF WE HAD A JUST A GENERAL SIGN UP LIKE WE DO FOR THE SHACK, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT IN THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED AND THERE'S JUST A RANDOM DRAWING, THEN YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET TO SERVE. I THINK I'M OK WITH THAT, I'M CURIOUS.
TRUSTEE HARRISON, TRUSTEE BONE, TRUSTEE XIAO, IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS? I'M OK WITH, AS YOU JUST STATED, PRESIDENT WEIR.
AND I THINK IT WAS TRUSTEE XIAO'S SUGGESTION AT THAT MAY MEETING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ACTION, SO BUT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE CHANGES MADE AND AND BRING IT TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
I THINK THE ONLY SO I'M LOOKING AT THE MEMBERSHIP CHANGES.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THIS EARLIER.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVEN APPOINTEES FROM THE BOARD AND THEN SEVEN FROM THE DISTRICT.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONVERSATION BETWEEN TRUSTEE WESTON AND I THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY UNDESIRABLE IN THE FACT THAT IT COULD BE STACKED WITH PEOPLE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND I THINK THAT HAD BEEN A COMMENT FROM ACTUALLY THE COMMUNITY FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THAT.
IT WE WANTED TO KEEP IT MORE STACKED TOWARDS THE TRUSTEES SINCE WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK I LOOK AT THE SHACK AND I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING A MIXED GROUP.
SO I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH THAT, THAT THERE'S SEVEN AND SEVEN NOW.
SO WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY SEVEN, FIVE AND TWO.
SO TWO WOULD COME FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT SIGNED UP, AND THEY WOULD JUST BE RANDOM PICKS, AND WE COULD DO THAT AS A DRAW HERE FROM THE DAIS EVEN.
YES, IT'S STILL SO IT'S SEVEN, FIVE AND TWO.
I JUST THINK THAT FIVE NUMBER IS REALLY BIG FOR ME.
FOR SOME REASON. I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'D BE OK DOING MORE RANDOM, BUT I THINK FIVE ON A COMMITTEE OF 14 AS A A BIG PORTION OF THE COMMITTEE.
I MEAN, THAT'S YOU COULD YOU COULD PROBABLY GET A MAJORITY AT MOST OF THE MEETINGS.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE WERE THE VOTES WHERE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD LIKE WOULD REQUIRE AT LEAST FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
THAT IF YOU LOOK, I HAD ACTUALLY JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO TAKE PLACE THE AND DECISION MAKING PROVISIONS JUST TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT.
SO IT HAS TO BE OF A MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT SO LONG AS THE QUORUM RULE HAS BEEN MET.
AND IF THERE WEREN'T AT LEAST EIGHT ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, NO DECISIONS OR VOTES WILL BE ALLOWED, AND IT STILL HAD THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU HAD PUT IN THERE. YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WE DID GET A LOT
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OF COMMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ON A 14 MEMBER, THEY CAN REALLY RULE OVER THE OTHER.SO. IT'S JUST THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT IF YOU GET FIVE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE THAT ARE CHOSEN BY ONE PERSON, THEY CAN OVERRULE AND KIND OF.
TAKE OVER MEETINGS, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT MORE RANDOM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OK IF THERE'S PEOPLE INTERESTED.
SO GIVE I WOULD JUST SWAP THAT, I WOULD DO FIVE RANDOM AND GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION TWO SPOTS. YEAH, I LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THE COMMUNITY THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE INVOLVED HIGHLY.
THIS IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO OVERSIGHT THE ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY SO.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FROM OTHER TRUSTEES? I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM DR.
AZAIEZ IN HIS INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, APPOINTMENTS FROM ADMINISTRATION AND, YOU KNOW.
WHERE THAT POOL OF CANDIDATES WOULD COME FROM? I MEAN. I GUESS I NEED JUST.
BONE'S POINT OF VIEW, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR INPUT FROM ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
SO THE REALITY IS I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T HAVE LIKE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW HERE ROUND ROCK PER SAY, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I WILL RELY ON SOME OF OUR STAFF.
AND ONE OF THE CRITERIA, DEFINITELY, WE WANT A PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME BACKGROUND, SOME TYPE OF BACKGROUND IN BOND PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION SO WE CAN HAVE A THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH WITH DIFFERENT VIEW, BUT ALSO A VIEW WITH KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT? AND SO I WILL BE RELYING AGAIN DR.
PRESSLEY AND TERRY AND FOLKS LIKE THAT THEY WILL HELP US SELECT THOSE FIVE MEMBERS IF THIS BOARD WANT US TO SELECT FIVE MEMBERS.
SO BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYONE YET LIKE REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHO.
WHICH ONE. BUT WE WERE RELYING ON OUR STAFF TO SELECT THESE FIVE PEOPLE IF, WELL, TERRY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS ON THIS.
IS THAT THE CHOOSING INDIVIDUALS.
WELL, FIRST, LET ME BACK UP TWO STEPS, I'M GOING TO BACK UP TWO STEPS.
THE THE 14 MEMBER BOARD IS A FAIRLY LARGE BOARD.
AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TRENDING TOWARDS THE END OF THIS BOND CYCLE. SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT'S THE NEXT BOND CYCLE? THIS COMMITTEE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MOST ENGAGED IN THE NEXT BOND CYCLE.
AND SO WHEN THE NEXT BOND CYCLE, THERE WILL BE LARGE PROJECTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THERE'S ENORMOUS, ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF WORK THAT IS EMBEDDED IN THIS COMMITTEE.
JUST IF YOU FOLLOW THIS, THE COMMITTEE COULD WORK SUCH THAT IT'S JUST A SIMPLE OVERSIGHT VERY SIMILAR TO KIND OF THE FINANCIAL STATUS THAT WE SAW TONIGHT.
AND PREVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN IN COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO JUST WANT TO DRILL DOWN TO THE LAST PENNY ON JUST A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM, AND IT TAKES HOURS AND HOURS TO GET THROUGH A MEETING OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT.
AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE SKILL SETS IN ANY SORT OF, LET'S SAY, DESIGN SERVICES AND OR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, A LOT OF THOSE PROFESSIONALS ACTUALLY DO WORK IN COMPANIES THAT SERVE OUR DISTRICT AND OR ANY OTHER DISTRICT FROM THAT POINT.
SO THE ORIGINAL CRITICISM OF SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ON THIS IS THAT, WELL, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT THEY WOULD BE ASSIGNED A PROJECT WHERE THEY HAVE ONE PROJECT THE COMPANY HAS FROM A NATURAL PROCUREMENT POINT OF VIEW.
SO THOSE PROFESSIONALS TEND TO SHY AWAY FROM ACTUALLY SERVING UNLESS THEY ARE SERVING IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GENRE OF TYPE OF PROJECTS.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO WORK ON THIS, WHO EVEN MAY BE IN THE SERVICES INDUSTRIES BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A HEAVY WORKLOAD IF WE GO THAT DEEP.
SO I THINK AS THIS COMMITTEE TAKES ITS ORGANIZATION, I FAVOR PERSONALLY, I'LL JUST SAY IT.
I FAVOR PROBABLY A LARGER RANDOM SELECTION OF INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THIS IS AN
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OPPORTUNITY TO MENTOR.IT'S A TEACHING OPPORTUNITY AND THAT HAS BEEN MISSING IN PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES ON THIS COMMITTEE, WHERE IT HAS BEEN MUCH MORE POIGNANT AND IT HAS BEEN MUCH MORE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WRONG TYPE OF A POINT OF VIEW RATHER THAN LET'S SEE WHAT'S BEEN DONE RIGHT? AND SO I WOULD PREFER, AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF WATCHED HOW THE SHACK COMMITTEE HAS WORKED OVER THE YEARS, AND I'VE KIND OF BEEN SOMEWHAT ENVIOUS OF THAT WHERE THE SHACK COMMITTEE ACTUALLY WORKS FROM A POSITIVE POINT OF VIEW AND WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY SAYING, WELL, JUST AS WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THIS FACILITIES IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE ROLE IS TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS AND THE STUDENT OUTCOME AS BEST WE CAN.
AND SO THAT MAY BE MORE OF AN INTEREST THAN JUST, WELL, WHO SPENT HOW MUCH MONEY AND WHERE HAS IT GONE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A NEW EXPERIENCE.
AND AND EVEN BEYOND THAT, THIS COMMITTEE CAN BEGIN TO MODEL SOME OF THE WORK AND EXPERIENCES, EVEN THAT [INAUDIBLE] HAS EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE IN TO BE ABLE TO SAY THERE ARE WAYS TO MOVE THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE DISCUSSION IN PHASES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE IT MEMORIALIZED IN A CHARTER AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THAT PERSONALLY, THAT'S MY OPINION AND SO THOUGHTS ON THAT.
OK. AND I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT REPRESENTATION BY LEARNING COMMUNITY SHALL BE A PRIMARY FACTOR IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S APPOINTMENTS.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THING.
SO TWO MEMBERS CHOSEN BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEN FIVE RANDOM IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS? MY ONLY INPUT ON THAT IS I'M TOTALLY COOL WITH INCREASING THE RANDOMNESS, BUT I HATE TO LOSE OUT ON THE FEEDER PATTERN REPRESENTATION.
SO I MIGHT ALMOST SAY RANDOMIZE THEM BY FEEDER PATTERN SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM EACH FEEDER PATTERN.
SO LIKE THE FIVE RANDOM ONE FROM EACH FEEDER PATTERN? YEAH. AND THEN WE GET SOMETHING FROM ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
AND I MEAN, IF AND IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, SAY NOBODY FROM MCNEIL WANTS TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE AND HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR IT.
DON'T LAUGH THEN WE COULD PULL FROM A SECOND FEEDER PATTERN, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH REPRESENTATION ACROSS DISTRICT AS POSSIBLE, IF THAT'S A WORD CROSS DISTRICT.
MS. WEIR, IF I MAY ADD ONE MORE THING? EVERYONE ASSUMES THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ARCHITECTURAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT A BIG PORTION OF THIS BOND AND THE NEXT PORTION OF THE BOND, AS MY GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE SITTING HERE, MARK IS TIED TO TECHNOLOGY.
AND SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS WITHIN THE BOND.
IF YOU'RE DOING AN OVERSIGHT, JUST CONSTRUCTION, THERE PERHAPS NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE WHO'S RELATED TO THAT INDUSTRY OR TWO OR THREE PEOPLE FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW AND AND LIKEWISE, SAFETY AND SECURITY.
THERE'S A MAJOR PORTION OF THIS BOND THAT GOES TO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY.
SO IT'S NOT JUST EXCLUSIVELY ARCHITECTURAL CONSTRUCTION AND HOW YOU CREATE.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY THE NAME, TOO. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THIS CONVERSATION WITH MR. WOOSTER EARLIER THAT WE DID CHANGE THAT, THAT THIS IS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS OVERSIGHT.
SO THIS WOULD BE ANY BIG CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WOULD INCLUDE TECHNOLOGY OR SAFETY.
I KNOW YOU KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE CHANGED THE NAME, AND THIS IS WHY WE DID LOOK AT OTHER DISTRICTS AND OTHER DISTRICTS ACTUALLY HAVE CHANGED THEIRS, NOT JUST TO FACILITIES. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY.
THESE ARE HUGE, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL PROJECTS ALSO, SO THAT IS.
AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
NO, IT'S OK. WE IT ACTUALLY CHANGED BECAUSE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH TERRY AND DANIELLE, AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT OTHERS AND WERE LIKE, OH, WOW, IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW IT WOULD GO INTO IF WE DO ANOTHER BOND, THE IDEA IS THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD PULL THOSE FOLKS FROM.
SO. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF ALREADY SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR THE BOND WHEN YOU NEED IT.
I HAVE MY BUTTON PUSHED PEDAL.
GO AHEAD TRUSTEE WESTON, I DON'T SEE IT, BUT SO MR. WORCESTER, ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF DOING SEVEN RANDOM DRAWS?
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TO ME, I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE MAKING MAKING IT MORE RANDOM BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN MAKING SOME OF OUR SYSTEMS HERE MORE EGALITARIAN AND ACCESSIBLE.TO A WIDER VARIETY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A STRONG OPINION, WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR SEVEN.
I DO THINK THAT AS AS A AS A SUPERINTENDENT WITHIN THE DISTRICT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LEADERSHIP VOICE.
AND SO I THINK I WOULD PERSONALLY REPRESENT A CHOICE THAT THE FIVE RANDOM ARE FROM.
WE HAVE FIVE LEARNING COMMUNITIES AND THE DRAW IS FROM EACH EACH LEARNING COMMUNITY AND SUPERINTENDENCY OR LEADERSHIP HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS.
BECAUSE IT MAY BE ACTUALLY TO GO BACK TO TRUSTEE BONE'S POINT, IF THERE ISN'T ANYBODY WITH TECHNOLOGY EXPERIENCE THAT GOT RANDOMLY DRAWN OR, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY'S ARCHITECTURAL AND WE REALLY NEED SOME OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE, IT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE TWO SPOTS WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT.
YES, YOU CAN HAVE SOME POSITIVE CONTROL OVER THE SKILL SET.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT, OF COURSE, IN A PERFECT WORLD, ALL LEARNING COMMUNITIES WOULD BE EQUALLY REPRESENTED, REPRESENTED IN ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DO.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PRIORITY FOR THE RANDOM DRAWING SHOULD JUST BE THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON ON THE COMMITTEE THAT IS FROM EACH LEARNING COMMUNITY.
I'M RELUCTANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF WELL WE HAVE THREE FROM MCNEIL AND ONE FROM CEDAR RIDGE, SO WE'RE GOING TO PICK TWO OUT OF THAT HAT.
I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE ONE PERSON FROM EACH LEARNING COMMUNITY, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET FURTHER INTO THE WEEDS OF THAT PERSONALLY.
AND I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR BUTTON.
SO THIS IS KIND OF HOW I HAD WRITTEN THAT, REWRITTEN THAT SENTENCE ON MY COPY AND I WAS GOING TO READ IT AT THE END. BUT LET ME SEE IF THIS ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.
THE CCPOC CONSISTS OF 14 MEMBERS, ONE MEMBER APPOINTED BY EACH TRUSTEE, TWO MEMBERS CHOSEN FROM INTERESTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS BY THE ADMINISTRATION, FIVE CHOSEN AT RANDOM FROM THE LIST OF INTERESTED CANDIDATES, ONE FROM EACH LEARNING COMMITTEE AND THEN KEEP AT THE BOTTOM THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY FOR EQUAL REPRESENTATION AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION MAY APPOINT TO DIVERSIFY THE COMMITTEE BASED ON PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE.
AND CAN WE ADVERTISE? WELL, I GUESS THE STAFF IS GOING TO REACH OUT TO CURRENT MEMBERS? AND DO YOU THINK STAFF COULD ALSO DO SOME ADVERTISING? I THINK JUST LIKE I GUESS I WAS ENVISIONING, JUST LIKE THEY DO FOR THE SHACK OR A BIG EMAIL GOES OUT WITH A LINK AND ANYBODY CAN SIGN UP AND THEN THERE'S A BIG GIANT SPREADSHEET AND SOMETHING HAPPENS MS. FELLER.
SO ONE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS ON PAGE THREE, WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT OTHER TRUSTEES WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO ATTEND.
WE HAVE THE TWO TRUSTEES THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT THEN WE CAN STILL HAVE ONE MORE BEFORE WE REACH A QUORUM.
AND SO I KNOW IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN GO AND ASK FOR PERMISSION LATER ON IN THE SENTENCE, BUT I JUST I DIDN'T.
WHEN IT'S REALLY CONFLICTING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT SAYS THEY SHALL NOT, YOU KNOW, WILL NOT BE PERMITTED, BUT THEN YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE REQUESTS.
I MEAN, IT JUST KIND OF FEELS CHUNKY.
HOW WOULD YOU REWRITE? WELL, CAN WE JUST POST THESE? CAN WE JUST POST THESE AS MEETINGS SO THAT ANY OF US CAN GO AT ANY TIME? WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT? DON'T WE HAVE TO RECORD THEM IF WE POST THEM? YEAH, I THINK THERE'D HAVE TO BE AGENDA AND EVERYTHING, RIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE A REGULAR BOARD MEETING IF IT WAS JUST A FORMALITY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
AND THEN I'LL JUST I MEAN, HONESTLY, THEN WHY WOULD WE EVEN HAVE THIS COMMITTEE IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO GO TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING? WELL I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BARRIERS FOR INTERESTED TRUSTEES TO GO? YEAH. WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE DID GET FROM MR. KINMEN WAS TO RECORD IT AND STREAM IT.
I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE POSTED, BUT WE COULD STREAM IT SO THAT WE COULD ALL WATCH IT AND SEE AND THEN THE COMMUNITY COULD ALL WATCH IT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF HIS IN HIS EMAIL, I THINK TO US.
I THINK THERE'D BE. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG OF A BARRIER THE AUDIOVISUAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE GREAT ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO HOLD IT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE EVERY TIME TO REALLY GET.
AND I THINK TO THAT POINT, IF WE DON'T POST IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT THAT HAS ISSUES AND IT COULD JUST BE FACEBOOK AND IT COULD BE JENNY AND HER
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STAFF, THEN THAT WOULD BE A MUCH EASIER.WE USED TO RECORD THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE WITH AN IPAD, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ON A TRIPOD, RIGHT? WASN'T IT? I MEAN, I KNOW I KNOW WE DID IT WITH A LITTLE CAMERA ON FACEBOOK AT SOME POINT WHERE THEY JUST CAME AND SET IT UP AT THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIT IN THIS ROOM AND I'M NOT LIKE PLANNING TO ATTEND ALL OF THESE.
IT JUST THE WORDING IN THAT PARAGRAPH JUST FELT A LITTLE CHUNKY FOR IT TO SAY WILL NOT BE PERMITTED, BUT THEN SAYS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK, THIS IS HOW YOU DO.
WE COULD CHANGE IT TO OTHER TRUSTEE SHOULD NOT ATTEND.
WELL, I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE LOGISTICS OF THIS AND I WAS THINKING OF MYSELF.
IF I WANT TO ATTEND, MAYBE IT SHOULD JUST SAY THAT THE OTHER TRUSTEES SHOULD CONTACT ONE OF THE TWO TRUSTEES AND LET THE TWO TRUSTEES THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THIS JUST MANAGE THAT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE FIRST SENTENCE IN THAT PARAGRAPH NEEDS TO BE JUST A LIMIT BECAUSE IT SAYS IF A TRUSTEE WHO IS NOT ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE WISHES TO ATTEND THAT TRUSTEES SHOULD CONTACT THE BOARD PRESIDENT FOR POSSIBLE ATTENDANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COGNIZANT OF QUORUM ISSUES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF TRUSTEE WESTON WANTS TO ATTEND, JUST SHOOT AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND ON THE BOARD PRESIDENT CAN SAY SOMEBODY ALREADY ASKED FOR THIS, BUT I'LL PUT YOU ON FOR THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINED.
AND I DON'T WANT TO VOLUNTEER DEBBIE, WHO'S NOT HERE.
BUT THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO IS TAKE THE BOARD PRESIDENT COMPLETELY OUT OF IT SO THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO ATTEND, STAFF COULD ALERT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN STAFF WOULD KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT THREE AND AND THEN.
AND I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT JUST KIND OF GLEANING IN AND MR. HENSON AND I ARE SIDE [INAUDIBLE].
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT THESE MEETINGS CAN BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN DOING A LOT OF RECORDING, JUST JUST COME IN AND ATTEND THEM. AND BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO OCCUR, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO FRANKLY, WHEN WE ARE DOING THE FACEBOOK EXPERIENCE WITH THE FACILITY COMMITTEE AND THREE TRUSTEES THAT HAD SOME REAL TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY FROM THAT POINT.
AND SO EITHER WE HAVE TO TO BE ABLE TO IRON OUT JUST HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE BECAUSE THAT'S MOVING EQUIPMENT AROUND, HAVING STAFF TO SET IT UP, ET CETERA, THAT SORT OF THING.
WE JUST ANNOUNCED THAT IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, COME IN AND TEND, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'S GOING TO BE A REPORT THAT COMES BACK FROM A TRUSTEE TO A TRUSTEE PANEL.
YEAH, ON PAGE SEVEN, THESE ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
YEAH, YEAH ON PAGE SEVEN, IF PEOPLE LOOK AT THE MEETINGS, THE LAST LINE UNDER MEETINGS SAYS THAT THE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO WATCH.
SO WE DID MAKE SURE BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION TO THAT THEY JUST CAN'T PARTICIPATE, NECESSARILY THEY'RE THERE TO TO WATCH KIND OF LIKE THESE MEETINGS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE REAL REPORTING IS COMING FROM THE TRUSTEES IN ATTENDANCE BACK TO THE IT'S THAT'S THE REAL THE REAL PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO REPORT TO TRUSTEES.
I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IF WE DO ALLOW A THIRD TRUSTEE TO ATTEND THAT THEY ARE AN ATTENDEE.
THEY ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, AN AD HOC NOW TRUSTEE ADVISOR.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ATTENDING TO JUST WATCH.
AND THE TWO ASSIGNED TRUSTEES ARE REALLY ENGAGING WITH THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT BARRIER TO MAKE SURE WE'VE DEFINED.
AND THE LAST, THE LAST THING I HAD, AND THIS IS ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE TITLE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TONGUE TWISTER.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF COMMUNITY CAPITAL PROJECTS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE? BECAUSE COMMUNITY AND CAPITAL PROJECTS MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT IN JUST THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST DIRECTED TO ROUND ROCK ISD. I MEAN, IT JUST IT FEELS CLUNKY TO ME.
I COULD JUST BE MY OWN PERSONAL, BUT I FEEL LIKE CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. JUST TAKE THE COMMUNITY AND PUT IT AFTER PROJECTS.
I LIKE THAT. SO THEN IT WOULD BE CPCOC, OK? BREAKING UP THE C'S, I'M NOT I'M NOT DYING ON MY SWORD ON THIS ONE, IT JUST I'VE GOT A FOLDER IN MY EMAIL AND I'M LIKE, OK, THAT'S A LOT OF LETTERS.
WHAT IS IT? JUST WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE NAME.
SO IT'S AND I DO THINK THAT SOUNDS BETTER BECAUSE YES, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMMUNITY
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CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT THIS WAY IT'S CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.OK, I'M GOING TO JUST REITERATE THE CHANGES REAL QUICK AND THEN I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS, BUT I IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
SO ON THE THE TITLE, IT WOULD BE CAPITAL PROJECTS COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
UNDER MEMBERSHIP, WE WOULD HAVE THE CHANGE THAT I READ EARLIER TO CHOSEN AT RANDOM.
AND THEN NO TWO CHOSEN FROM INTERESTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS BY THE ADMINISTRATION, FIVE CHOSEN AT RANDOM FROM THE LIST OF INTERESTED CANDIDATES, ONE FROM EACH LEARNING COMMUNITY. ON PAGE THREE, TAKE OUT THE SENTENCE ABOUT NOT PERMITTED, AND IF A TRUSTEE WHO IS NOT ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE WISHES TO ATTEND A PARTICULAR A PARTICULAR MEETING, THAT TRUSTEE SHOULD CONTACT, I'M GOING TO SAY, THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO OPERATIONS, REGARDING POSSIBLE ATTENDANCE.
AND THEN I THINK I HAD ONE MORE AREA, OH, AND THEN FOR MEETINGS, WE SAID SHALL MEET MONTHLY EITHER IN PERSON OR ELECTRONICALLY AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
AND THEN WE HAD THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S ALL THAT I WROTE DOWN TRUSTEE WESTON.
SO I I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED ON IF YOU WERE OK WITH THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT BUT THE WILL IS KIND OF BEST EFFORT.
AS LONG AS THERE'S FLEXIBILITY HERE IN THE LANGUAGE, I JUST I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT TOO NARROW AND TOO DIFFICULT FOR THE.
COMMITTEE TO OPERATE IF MEMBERS AND CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE.
CAN WE SAY MEETINGS PREFERABLY WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, TO ADDRESS TRUSTEE WESTON CONCERNS? I DO LIKE THAT WE HAVE AN ASSIGNED TODAY.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY MEETS ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY UNLESS CHANGED BY THE COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR SOMETHING, IT'S NICE TO KNOW.
I MEET ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY AND THAT'S MY STANDING DATE AND WE'RE GOING TO MEET THERE UNLESS THERE'S A FORESEEABLE PROBLEM.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THERE'S TWO TRUSTEES ON THIS, SO OUR SCHEDULES ARE, YOU KNOW, CAN BE VERY WELL JUST SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO KEEP IT PRETTY FIRM.
I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE A REASON, BUT THEN I THINK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REALLY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE SINCE THERE ARE TWO TRUSTEES THAT ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND THESE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A THURSDAY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TUESDAY THAT IT HAS TO BE BLOCKED OFF EVERY MONTH.
OKAY. SO SHALL MEET MONTHLY EITHER IN PERSON OR ELECTRONICALLY AS IT DEEMS NECESSARY.
I TAKE PLACE ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, AND I THINK THOSE WERE REALLY THE ONLY CHANGES THAT I HAD.
OTHER THAN WE GOT TO CHANGE THE CCPOC TO CPCOC ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
ALL RIGHT, IF THERE, I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL GET THOSE CHANGES MADE AND THEN BRING THOSE BACK ON CONSENT FOR THE 18TH. SO THEN NOW WE WILL GO BACK UP TO D1 AND D2.
I DON'T KNOW. MS. MCPHEETERS IS HERE.
SURE. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT WEIR, DR.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
WE'RE BRINGING TO THE BOARD FOR FIRST READING TWO DIFFERENT TSB POLICY UPDATES AND SEVERAL OTHER LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY CHANGES FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.
BRIEFLY, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD OF HOW POLICY IS STRUCTURED.
THE DISTRICT'S POLICY MANUAL IS DIVIDED INTO SEVEN DIFFERENT SECTIONS LABELED A THROUGH G, AND THOSE ARE BASED ON CATEGORY WITHIN EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS ARE ALL OF THE DISTRICT'S POLICIES RELATED TO THAT TOPIC.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SECTION D CONTAINS ALL OF THE POLICIES RELATED TO PERSONNEL.
SECTION E CONTAINS ALL THE POLICIES RELATED TO INSTRUCTION.
THAT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND.
THERE'S ALSO A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLICIES.
THERE ARE LEGAL POLICIES, LOCAL POLICIES AND REGULATIONS.
YOU MAY ALSO OCCASIONALLY SEE EXHIBITS WHICH ARE GENERALLY FORMS. LEGAL POLICIES ARE RESTATEMENTS OF THE RELEVANT LAW.
THE BOARD DOES NOT ADOPT LEGAL POLICY AND CANNOT MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE POLICIES.
LOCAL POLICIES ARE POLICIES THAT OUTLINE THE LOCAL BOARD MANDATES REGARDING GOVERNANCE ISSUES, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THESE ARE THE WAY LOCAL DISTRICTS IMPLEMENT LEGAL POLICIES.
OUR LOCAL POLICIES ARE ADOPTED BY THE BOARD.
REGULATIONS ARE THE WAY THAT ADMINISTRATION IMPLEMENTS THE BOARD'S LOCAL POLICIES, AND THE BOARD DOES NOT ADOPT REGULATIONS.
BEFORE WE GET INTO TODAY'S POLICIES, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT WE'RE JUST POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.
THIS IS FIRST READING IS THE FIRST TIME YOU WILL HAVE SEEN THESE POLICIES, WERE NOT
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POSTED FOR ACTION.AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFUSION THERE.
AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER FEEDBACK YOU HAVE AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POLICIES. SO LET'S START WITH UPDATE 116.
THIS IS A TASB POLICY UPDATE THAT'S LARGELY COMPRISED OF LEGAL POLICIES.
THE LOCAL POLICY CHANGES ARE MINOR CHANGES, LARGELY IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE LEGAL POLICIES. IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC LOCAL POLICIES IN THE UPDATE PACKET THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THERE ARE ONLY, I THINK, FIVE OR SIX OF THEM.
THEY'RE PRETTY WELL EXPLAINED BY THE EXPLANATORY NOTES THAT ARE INCLUDED.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE UPDATE PACKET, SO NOT IN THE ADDITIONAL POSTED POLICIES, BUT WITHIN THE UPDATE ONE 16 PACKET THAT THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS? AND I CAN POINT OUT WHICH POLICIES THOSE ARE FOR YOU.
TRUSTEE WESTON. SO MS. MCPHEETERS, WE'RE ON DAY ONE, RIGHT? YES. AND THERE ARE ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE TEN ATTACHMENTS HERE RIGHT? AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS UNTIL MONDAY NIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR? BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I THINK THIS WAS POSTED.
I THINK SO. SO I GUESS AND THIS IS GOSH, I GUESS WE'RE ALL COMING UP ON THE FOUR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF WHEN WE WERE SWORN IN.
SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AS A TRUSTEE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I BELIEVE.
DO YOU REMEMBER MS. MCPHEETERS? SO I GUESS I WAS EXPECTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD POINT OUT SIGNIFICANT THINGS TO US.
SO I WILL. OK, DEFINITELY ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT POLICY CHANGES.
IF YOU WANT ME TO POINT OUT EVERY CHANGE I CERTAINLY CAN.
WELL, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? SO YOU SAID, WOULD YOU FIRST READING TODAY? WHERE DID THESE POLICIES COME FROM? THE TASB SEND US RIGHT.
SO UPDATE 116, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
YES. I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO LOOK AT THEM IF WE'LL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA POSTING WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE LOCAL POLICY COMPARISON PACKET, WHICH IS THE RED LINE VERSION OF ALL OF THE TSB RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AN UPDATE 116.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHANGE TO CQB LOCAL PROVIDES THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DELEGATE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CYBERSECURITY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, DCD CLARIFIES THAT AND AT WILL EMPLOYEES APPEAL OF DISMISSAL WOULD GO THROUGH THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.
SO THESE ARE EXPLAINED IN IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL COMPARISON.
WELL, THAT'S NOT. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE LOCAL COMPARISON, THESE CHANGES ARE FROM TASB. YES.
OK. THERE ARE TASB RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW TONIGHT THAT DID NOT COME RECOMMENDED FROM TASB? UH, YES.
OK, AND YOU'LL POINT THOSE OUT TO US, YES.
OK. CAN I JUST GET A CLARIFICATION? I THINK TRUSTEE WESTON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE COMPARISON PACKAGE IS THE ONLY THING FROM TASB, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST ONE FILE.
AND IT SAYS COMPARISON PACKAGE.
AND THEN I THINK THERE'S LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT OTHERS, AND THOSE ARE ALL ONES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, TASB HAS PROVIDED WHAT'S LABELED ON THE BOARD AGENDA, POSTING AS 116 UPDATE PACKET.
THAT'S EVERY LEGAL CHANGE AND EVERY LOCAL CHANGE.
YOU ALL DON'T ADOPT LEGAL CHANGES, SO THAT'S THERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE, IT'S THERE FOR THE PUBLIC'S REFERENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T RED LINE ALL OF THOSE CHANGES.
IF YOU LOOK AT UPDATE 116, THE LOCAL POLICY COMPARISON PACKET THAT DOES SHOW YOU WHAT TASB RECOMMENDS, WE CHANGE.
UM, AND YOU WERE JUST GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE INITIAL EXAMPLES IN THAT DOCUMENT WITH US. MM HMM. OK.
SO WHENEVER YOU GET BOARD UPDATES ON THESE TASB POLICY UPDATES, IF YOU OPEN THE UPDATE PACKET. ALL OF THE CHANGES AND ALL OF THE RATIONALE FOR EVERY CHANGE THAT TASB IS RECOMMENDING IS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IT'S JUST A BRIEF ONE OR TWO SENTENCE.
WHY ARE WE MAKING THIS CHANGE? SO AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
YOU'RE CALLING IT FIRST READING, ARE THERE ANY STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF ADOPTION BY US OR APPROVAL BY US OR HOW DOES THIS NORMALLY WORK.
SO WE DON'T DO ANY KIND OF ADOPTION OR APPROVAL TODAY.
WHAT WE DO IS IF THERE ARE YOU LOOK AT ALL THE POLICIES, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY, THE LOCAL POLICIES IN THE TASB PACKET, ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ARE ATTACHED SEPARATELY.
AND IF THERE ARE CHANGES YOU WANT MADE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, WORDING YOU WANT
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TO CHANGE, YOU LET US KNOW AND WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN WE BRING THESE POLICIES BACK TO THE BOARD FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A LATER MEETING.SO PERHAPS THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING, PERHAPS ANOTHER ONE AFTER THAT, JUST DEPENDING ON.
SO THAT'S JUST DEPENDS ON US WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
OUR TIMELINE? OK, AND HOW EXTENSIVE YOUR CHANGES ARE? OK, WELL, I DEFINITELY MADAM CHAIR.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK ABOUT CK.
SO TRUSTEE WESTON, IF YOU'LL LET ME CONTINUE, WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THOSE.
SO LET ME KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT ALL OF THEM ARE.
LET ME GO ACTUALLY RIGHT TO CKE LOCAL.
THE REASON THAT THIS IS INCLUDED IS THAT THIS IS A POLICY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE.
WE NEED TO ADD IT NOW THAT WE HAVE AN INTERNAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE LANGUAGE ON CKE LOCAL TRUSTEE WESTON DID COME STRAIGHT FROM TASB'S RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S ONE THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS.
IF I CAN GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE POLICIES AND WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE, THEN WE CAN COME BACK. CPC LOCAL, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE BRINGING AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS A VERY MINOR CHANGE TO SPECIFY THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH [INAUDIBLE].
SO JUST TO CHANGE IT FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT TO THE ACTUAL PERSON WHO SERVES AS THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER.
DCE LOCAL CONCERNS NON CHAPTER 21 CONTRACTS FOR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP.
ALL THAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS CHANGING THE WORD SHELL TO THE WORD MAY IN ORDER TO COMPORT WITH CURRENT PRACTICE.
WHICH ONE WAS THAT YOU JUST SAID DCE? IT'S ABOUT NON CHAPTER TWENTY ONE CONTRACTS.
DEC LOCAL, THAT'S OUR POLICY RELATED TO LEAVE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF RED LINES IN THIS POLICY, BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY NOT MANY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. PRIMARILY, THESE ARE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BY TASB IN ORDER TO CLEAN UP THE POLICY AND MAKE IT MORE READABLE.
THE ONLY REAL SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE THAT I WANT TO CALL OUT IS ON PAGE NINE, WHICH CONCERNS MENTAL HEALTH LEAVE FOR OFFICERS, FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS AND PROVIDE AS GUIDANCE ON, BECAUSE THE BOARD WILL NEED TO DECIDE THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO GRANT MENTAL HEALTH LEAVE TO POLICE OFFICERS.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE COME BACK TO THAT POLICY.
DF LOCAL, THIS IS ANOTHER VERY MINOR CHANGE WHERE WE GET RID OF AN OBSOLETE POLICY THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. DH LOCAL, THERE'S JUST ONE UPDATE TO ALLOW POLICE OFFICERS TO CARRY WEAPONS. WE HAVE TO UPDATE THAT BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A POLICE FORCE.
THE OTHER POLICY IS GKA LOCAL, WE'RE BRINGING THIS POLICY FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS IF YOU SO CHOOSE. IT PROPOSES PROHIBITING SURREPTITIOUS RECORDING OF DISTRICT EMPLOYEES OR VOLUNTEERS AND MAKES CLEAR THAT THE DISTRICT PROHIBITS RECORDING OF A STUDENT UNLESS CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS ARE MET.
THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION, OBVIOUSLY, ON ANY OF THESE POLICIES ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO. BUT THESE ARE THESE ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEN UPDATE ONE 17.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A POLICY THAT LARGELY CONTAINS LEGAL POLICY UPDATES.
I DO THINK THEY'RE WELL EXPLAINED IN THE EXPLANATORY NOTES AND IN THE COMPARISON PACKET.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING PARTICULAR YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, LET ME KNOW.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT D2, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE POLICIES IN THE ORDER YOU CHOOSE.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. WHAT SO WHEN LOOKING AT CKE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE POLICE FORCE IN GENERAL, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE POLICY, IS THIS SPECIFIC POLICY TIME BOUND IN TERMS OF WHEN WE SIGN OFF ON IT? WE CERTAINLY NEED TO ADOPT A POLICY RELATED TO THE SUPERVISION AND AUTHORITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE POLICY RIGHT.
CHIEF YARBROUGH IS HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND HELP FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION.
MY ASK WOULD BE THAT IF WE CAN MAKE SOME HEADWAY WITH THE POLICY, THAT WE TRY TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY BE IN PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE OFFICERS ON CAMPUS NOW, CORRECT? YES. SO YOUR GOAL IS THAT WE MAKE HEADWAY WITH THAT POLICY TONIGHT.
YES. YEAH, WE WON'T TAKE ANY ACTION, BUT JUST TO MAKE IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE TO THIS POLICY OR IF YOU COULD, IF YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH WHAT CHANGES YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE, IF YOU COULD POINT US IN THE DIRECTION OF WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE SO WE CAN GET THOSE ANSWERED SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THESE POLICIES.
SO. I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON WHY CKE WASN'T ALREADY ADOPTED.
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I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THIS.IS THERE A REASON THAT THIS WASN'T ALREADY ADOPTED WHEN THE POLICE FORCE WAS DEVELOPED? AND NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT BACKGROUND.
OK. I JUST WAS JUST A QUESTION I HAD BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF SHOCKING THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THIS IN PLACE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A POLICE FORCE FOR A WHILE.
SO THIS KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF TRUSTEE HARRISON.
I WOULD ACTUALLY REMOVE FIVE, I WOULD REMOVE SIX AND I WOULD REMOVE EIGHT.
AND THEN I DID, LIKE YOU SAID, I GO BACK TO THE LEGAL AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IN LEGAL WHAT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THESE ARE ALREADY POLICIES WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO I ACTUALLY KIND OF FIND THE POLICE AUTHORITY A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT.
SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED THIS, BUT I'M I DON'T KNOW ONE, THREE OR FOUR.
I BELIEVE THE WORDING WORKS FOR ME, BUT FIVE, SIX AND EIGHT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A LITTLE BIT TO GET ON BOARD WITH THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER BE ON BOARD WITH THEM, ACTUALLY.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO CKE THAT I HAVE.
DOES THE REST OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ON NUMBER EIGHT TRUSTEE BONE, YOU WOULDN'T WANT OFFICERS TO CARRY OUT THE DUTIES AS DIRECTED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
IS IT? SO ACTUALLY, GOOD QUESTION, I GUESS IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE, YES, REMOVE OR SUPERINTENDENT STRUCTURALLY THROUGH ORGANIZATIONALLY, THEY ARE THE POLICE CHIEF GETS.
AND I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY THAT THEY CARRY OUT DUTIES.
I MEAN, I JUST, THERE HAS TO BE A SEPARATION.
SO I WOULD REMOVE SUPERINTENDENT AND YES, I WOULD BE AMENABLE THEN TO LEAVING EIGHT, AS IS OTHER THAN REMOVING SUPERINTENDENT BECAUSE OF COURSE.
SO I SERVED ON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY TASK FORCE, AND I THINK MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG MS. MCPHEETERS, IS IT TEXAS LAW OR CHIEF YARBROUGH THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE CHIEF OF POLICE REPORTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. THANK YOU.
THE POLICE CHIEF REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, NOT THE OFFICERS, THE OFFICERS REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE CHIEF.
YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT THE OFFICERS WOULD ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND I JUST I THINK THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE LEGALLY ON HOW THAT STRUCTURE IS SUPPOSED TO BE. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD REMOVE SUPERINTENDENT.
SO MY ONLY QUESTION WITH THIS TRUSTEE BONE IS SO IT SAYS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I AGREE WITH YOU ON FIVE AND SIX.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARY, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
ON NUMBER EIGHT, IF YOU READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS POLICE OFFICERS EMPLOYED BY THE DISTRICT SHALL HAVE ALL THE POWERS BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH AND HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD CHIEF YARBROUGH BE CONSIDERED A POLICE OFFICER? AND FALL UNDER THIS AS WELL, THAT HE WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT TO WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S AUTHORITY. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I TOTALLY GET. IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE OFFICERS UNDER CHIEF YARBOROUGH, THEN YES, I WOULD UNDERSTAND TAKING THE SUPERINTENDENT PHRASE OUT.
BUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING AS CHIEF YARBROUGH AS OFFICER IS ALSO CONSIDERED AN OFFICER, THEN HE WOULD HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO REPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THAT SHOULD BE COVERED BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN LAW. THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE HARRISON WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPEATED IN OUR POLICY AS MY THINKING, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BY LAW, BY TEXAS EDUCATION CODE THAT WHEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE FORCE THAT THEY, THE POLICE CHIEF REPORTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SUBVERTING THAT BY SAYING THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE DOESN'T BY TAKING THAT OUT RIGHT HERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT I MEAN, MAYBE LINDSAY CAN READ IT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S DOING.
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST THE POLICE AUTHORITY, IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE CHIEF OR BUT I WOULD LIKE IT THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS, NOT ALL OF THEM ACTUALLY TAKE DIRECT ORDERS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT.
THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE A STRUCTURE I WOULD FAVOR IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK TO TWEAK THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE CLEAR TO REITERATE THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE REPORTS TO
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THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE OFFICERS REPORT AND TAKE THEIR DIRECTION FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE SO WE CAN WORK ON IT.SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT AGREEMENT TO REMOVE FIVE AND SIX.
I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, POLICY IS NOT DIRECTED AT INDIVIDUALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, TRUSTEES ARE GOING TO COME AND GO, ADMINISTRATORS ARE GOING TO COME AND GO.
THE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO COME AND GO.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP UNDER DISTRICT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN YOU SEE SUPERVISORY AUTHORITY. IT SAYS THE CHIEF OF POLICE SHALL BE ACCOUNTABLE TO AND SHALL REPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW.
THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL NOT DELEGATE THE SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S THAT EXCERPT THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE EIGHT IS NOT NECESSARY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THAT AID IS DUPLICITOUS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE REPORTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT BY LAW.
IF I CAN JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK THERE.
SOMETIMES JUST CLARIFYING IN A POLICY WHEN THERE MAY BE SOME AMBIGUITY, EVEN IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT DUPLICATIVE, IT'S VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE AS YOU ALL ARE HAVING THIS DEBATE ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS AND YOU'RE HAVING TO LOOK AROUND.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN JUST HAVING IT VERY CLEARLY SPELLED OUT.
PERHAPS YOU DISAGREE. I WOULD JUST REITERATE.
8A WE WOULD TWEAK THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE REPORTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT THE OFFICER'S REPORT AND TAKE THEIR ORDERS FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE, AND IT WON'T BE THAT EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT THAT WILL BE THE GIST OF IT.
TRUSTEE HARRISON AND THEN TRUSTEE BONE.
I MEAN, I I KNOW WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS RIGHT NOW.
I AM KIND OF WITH YOU TRUSTEE WESTON, THOUGH, ON WHEN WE GOT THIS AND THIS POLICY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH I SEE THAT'S NOT REPRESENTED HERE BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE SAFETY AND SECURITY TASK FORCE.
CAN THIS SPECIFIC ONE BE TABLED AND LOOKED AT SEPARATELY? AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR JOB HARDER, MS. MCPHEETERS, I'M JUST PRETTY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ONE.
WE CAN DO THAT. I WILL ALSO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH TASB ABOUT HOW THAT WILL IMPACT OTHER POLICIES THAT WE MAY NEED TO BRING FOR SECOND READING.
SO LET ME TALK TO TSB ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT AND PULLING THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.
I WOULD JUST IMPRESS UPON THE BOARD THE IMPORTANCE OF ADDRESSING THIS POLICY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS UPDATE.
SO TRUSTEE HARRISON, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE IN DEPTH OF YOUR CONCERNS AND LIKE THE STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD, HOW CAN WE, CAN WE POST IT AGAIN IN OUR JUST THIS PARTICULAR POLICY AND HAVE JUST AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS PARTICULAR POLICY? YOU KNOW, MAYBE OUR NEXT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA LOOKS LIKE FOR NOVEMBER 18TH, BUT AT LEAST HAVE US THE ABILITY TO SPEND ANOTHER I MEAN, WE'RE QUICK, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 MINUTES.
BUT I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, HAVE A NEXT DISCUSSION ABOUT IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT TABLING IT INDEFINITELY, BUT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND YOU'RE SO INSIGHTFUL THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK.
AND AND I'M SURE ALL OF US WOULD HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS ON THIS AS WELL BASED ON THAT.
SO, WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING THIS BACK ON PRETTY QUICKLY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION? I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO WELL.
SO THE ADMINISTRATION IS PREPARED TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THE BOARD HAS ABOUT THIS POLICY, WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE THAT WILL MAKE YOU ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS POLICY OR CHANGES TO THIS POLICY SO YOU CAN ASK THEM TONIGHT, YOU CAN PREPARE THEM TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL ON ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED, BECAUSE I HEAR THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HEAR YOU WANT MORE INFO.
BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG BECAUSE TO TRUSTEE WESTON'S POINT AND TRUSTEE BONE'S POINT, WE'VE HAD A POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A BIT NOW AND WE DO NEED SOME POLICIES TO BE ADOPTED.
OK, SO I KIND OF HAVE TWO CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS THAT I DON'T REALLY SEE REFLECTED HERE THAT WE DISCUSSED, AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY'RE POSSIBILITIES.
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NUMBER ONE, WE TALKED ABOUT BEING VERY CLEAR WITH OUR CONCERNS AROUND EQUITY AND THE DISPROPORTIONALITY AND THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS WE KNOW OF POLICING IN SCHOOLS ON BLACK AND BROWN STUDENTS, STUDENTS RECEIVING SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.AND I DON'T SEE THAT REFLECTED ANYWHERE IN THIS POLICY.
NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT MIGHT BE AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A REQUEST THAT HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD SPECIFIC AND FOCUSED TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NOT JUST AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING, BUT REALLY ON THE AGENDA.
I FEEL NERVOUS MOVING THIS POLICY FORWARD.
NOW IT COULD BE THAT WE MOVE THE POLICY FORWARD AND THEN WE REVISIT, BUT I THINK THAT JUST IN GENERAL ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS BOARD HAS NOT HAD A TRUE AGENDA ITEM TO GET OUR QUESTIONS ASKED, AND SO TO DO THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF WE HAVE TO HURRY UP AND GET THIS POLICY. I WILL ADMIT IT FEELS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO ME AND DISCOMFORT ISN'T ALWAYS BAD. BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
SO WITH RESPECT TO EQUITY NOT BEING REFLECTED IN THE POLICY, DO YOU HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE? DO YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO DO THAT? CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE SOME CLARITY THERE? THERE IS A COMMUNITY GROUP THAT WORKED ON EQUITY POLICY FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS, AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT WORK REFLECTED HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN A MANUAL OR IT'S REFLECTED SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT, OK? YEAH, DEFINITELY. I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE CAN BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.
DO YOU KNOW TRUSTEE HARRISON IF IF THAT COMMITTEE, WELL, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS POLICY, BUT. WERE YOU DID YOU TRY TO CREATE YOUR OWN POLICY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMILAR TO THIS? THAT GROUP DID CREATE POLICY THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM THAT GROUP ARE STILL HERE, BUT IT WAS MADE UP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAFF.
SO. THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION, AND THEN ALSO MY QUESTION ON COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITY IS OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT ANY KIND OF REPORTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S WRITTEN INTO POLICY.
OK. REGARDING THE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT PIECE.
IS THAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION, AND THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT OF FEELING CONFLICTED.
MM HMM. I THINK TO YOUR POINT, NO, THAT YOU CAN'T ADOPT A POLICY AND LATER CHANGE A POLICY. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT.
BUT WE CAN WE CAN GET THOSE RESPONSES TO YOU, THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, CHIEF YARBOROUGH, WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD THERE? THERE'S NOTHING THAT I WANT TO ADD RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE CLARITY AT THIS POINT OF IF THERE'S OVERSIGHT, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING TO OVERSEE? WHAT CONTEXT? AND ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO DISCIPLINARY DATA, I'VE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DISCIPLINARY DISPROPORTIONALITY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED IN STUDENT DISCIPLINE, THERE'S NO DATA THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN DISCIPLINE.
SO THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS, IS PROVIDED AND WE SIMPLY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN DISCIPLINE.
SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY DATA RELATED TO OUR RESPONSES TO ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS.
AND TRUSTEE FELLER, AND THEN I SEE TRUSTEE BONE AND TRUSTEE WESTON.
PRESIDENT WEIR, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MY MEMORY? WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS, I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED THE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT.
AND MAYBE MS. MCPHEETERS REMEMBERS.
WAS THERE SOME KIND OF LEGALITY ABOUT A COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT OR BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT? THERE IS AND WE DID.
AND I THINK IT'S WHY, LIKE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT SEPARATE OFFICE THAT TAKES ALL IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW YOU FILE COMPLAINTS.
THAT IS ACCURATE. I WILL SAY IT AGAIN ONE MORE TIME OR YEAH, GO AHEAD, AMY.
WELL, I JUST KNOW WHAT I FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEIR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER, THERE ARE LAWS, CHIEF YARBROUGH MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME OUT AND BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE THE OFFICER HAS SOME CERTAIN RIGHTS TO KNOW WHO'S MADE THE COMPLAINT AND ALL OF THAT.
SO IN ORDER TO HAVE IT BE ANONYMOUS, SOMEHOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN COLLECTS IT SEPARATELY AND THEN THAT IS THEN TAKEN TO THE OFFICER TO ABIDE BY STATE LAW, IT'S DIFFICULT.
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AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN.ELABORATE. WELL, REGARDING THE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT ISSUE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED INTO EXTENSIVELY.
I WILL TELL YOU AT THIS HOUR, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS RIGHT ON THE TOP OF MY MIND. IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR, BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE COULD TIE THAT INTO A CONSTRAINT AS WE'RE COMING UP ON BOARD GOALS ON SATURDAY, WE COULD TIE IT INTO A CONSTRAINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL REPORT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PARTICULAR DATA OR WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING FOR INTO OUR BOARD GOALS DISCUSSION AS WELL, IF IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY A POLICY THING THAT WE WOULD PUT IN. WE COULD TIE IT IN ANOTHER WAY.
SO JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT, AND I'LL THINK ABOUT IT, I THINK HAVING FOUR DAYS TO REVIEW THIS AND THIS BEING SUCH A HUGE DECISION BASED ON IT'S THE CONTEXT FOR THIS DECISION IS HUGE.
IT'S NOT LIKE, YES, CHECK OFF THIS POLICY.
I MEAN, EVEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLAINTS.
SHOULD BE IN WRITING ON A FORM PROVIDED BY THE DISTRICT, AND SHOULD BE SIGNED BY THE PERSON MAKING THE COMPLAINT.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE THAT COMPLAINT GOES TO, SO WHO RECEIVES A COMPLAINT ABOUT AN OFFICER OR SITUATION, THERE'S JUST MUCH MORE DETAIL NEEDED.
AND I HATE BEING A PAIN, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WORTH BEING A BIT OF A PAIN OVER. I THINK THAT'S THE LEGAL PART THAT IF YOU IF YOU GO LOOK AT THAT, CKEA LEGAL I MEAN THAT DOES COME STRAIGHT FROM STATE LAW AND THAT I KNOW WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR OVERSIGHT, THAT WAS THE PART THAT THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH, TOO.
YES, THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC RULES ABOUT HOW TO FILE A COMPLAINT WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE OFFICERS. I WOULD ALSO REMIND THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS POLICY, THERE ARE STILL ALSO INTERNAL PROCEDURES, SO EVERY SINGLE THING MAY NOT BE LAID OUT IN THE POLICY.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, I THINK CHIEF YARBROUGH DOES, IF YOU ALL CAN LET US KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU NEED SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THESE POLICIES ALONG.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE NOT ADOPTING ANYTHING TODAY WHEN WE DO FINALLY ADOPT THE POLICIES. THERE ARE A FEW POLICIES THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADOPT UNTIL WE ADOPT CKE AND THAT SPECIFICALLY THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT OF DEC.
I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO RUSH YOU, I'M SAYING THAT SO THAT YOU'RE INFORMED.
ALSO ADDITIONALLY, CAN I JUST MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST FOR WHATEVER THE PROCEDURES ARE, THOSE PROCEDURES ALREADY COMPILED AND CAN WE AS THE BOARD GET THAT? AND MAYBE WE MIGHT FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD OR HAVE SOME SPECIFICS? I JUST FEEL LIKE AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME.
I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL INDICTMENT.
I SEE HOW MUCH OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO CARE ABOUT OUR STUDENTS, AND THIS IS A BIG DECISION TO MAKE BASED ON NOT HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF OVERALL CONTEXT.
CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? TRUSTEE. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY OFFICIAL BOARD DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE TO SHARE WITH US QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU NEED AND SO WE CAN.
YOU WANT US TO LOOK INTO CERTAIN THINGS, PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION, WOULD WORK WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AS WELL AS WITH CHIEF YARBOROUGH TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION. WE DEFINITELY WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE MAKING THIS DECISION.
SO ANYTHING YOU NEED, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.
CAN I GET ONE PIECE OF CLARIFICATION, THOUGH, ON THIS POLICY? SO I KNOW NOWHERE NEAR READY TO GO ON THIS POLICY.
BUT IS IS THE BOARD LARGELY IN AGREEMENT THAT THE NEXT VERSION WE BRING BACK NEEDS TO NOT INCLUDE FIVE AND SIX? I THINK SO. OK.
DR. BONE, I DID HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ON THESE.
THEY'RE IN LINE WITH TRUSTEE HARRISON.
THE FIRST COMMENT IS I THINK THIS SHOULD COME BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT IT'S ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THERE'S A BIG PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING TO THIS AND BE LIKE, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST A VERY VAGUE UPDATE 116.
SO I THINK THE NEXT TIME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IS ON AN AGENDA THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POLICIES TO DO WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THIS POLICY AND TO ME, IT HAS TO BE IN POLICY THAT THERE IS AN
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OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS, BUT LIKE WE CAN PUT IT IN POLICY THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND THEN THAT'S UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION CAN PUT TOGETHER WHAT THEY THINK THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THAT'S FINE. BUT I THINK FOR ME TO PASS THIS POLICY, THERE HAS TO BE A COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT TO ME, THERE ALSO HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF INTERNAL AUDIT. AND TO ME, THAT IS LOOKING AT NUMBERS THAT'S MAKING SURE IT'S NOT LOOKING AT DISCIPLINE, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOLLOWING THEIR POLICIES.
AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, INSTANCES THAT HAPPENED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NONE OF THE TRUSTEES CAN TELL THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED AND HOW WE HAD PEOPLE ARRESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAME OUT OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF INTERNAL AUDIT TO ME, ALSO COMPONENT THAT IS CHECKING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FOLLOWING THEIR POLICIES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UNDER OUR OWN INTERNAL AUDIT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR ...YES I CAN ANSWER THAT SHE DID ADD THAT TO IT IS PART OF HER CALENDAR.
SO WE CAN ASK I CAN ASK HER TO SEND THAT..
AWESOME BECAUSE THE FIRST WEEK I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE MET WITH RAQUEL, I ACTUALLY ASKED HER ABOUT THAT. SO I'M GLAD SHE LOOKED INTO THAT AND GOT THAT.
SO BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE IN POLICY, AND THE REASON I WANT THIS IN POLICY INSTEAD OF A CONSTRAINT IS THAT THESE POLICIES LIVE FOREVER UNTIL THEY'RE CHANGED BY THE BOARD.
AND SO I NEED THESE IN POLICY.
I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE DETAILS AND POLICY GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO HAVE TO HAVE FOR ME, I REALLY NEED TO SEE THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE ON HERE, INTERNAL AUDIT IN HERE.
AND THEN AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE AGENDA, STATED POLICE DEPARTMENT, NEXT TIME WE DO THIS. I THINK THE AUDIT PIECE ACTUALLY GOES INTO HER POLICY AS OPPOSED TO.
YEAH. EITHER WAY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT UPDATE COME WITH THIS AND THAT WAY.
OR IS IT THE CHARITY UPDATE HER POLICY? I HAVEN'T. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.
I THINK WE APPROVE THE CALENDAR EVERY YEAR.
AND SHE ADDED THAT INTO THE CALENDAR, INTO HER LIKE WE WE APPROVE HER STRUCTURE OF WHAT SHE DOES WITH HER TIME OVER THE YEAR, AND SHE LISTS WHAT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT SHE'S DOING. SO I'LL ASK HER TO RESEND THAT, OK.
OR MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN LOOK INTO WHERE THAT WOULD APPROPRIATELY FALL IN OUR POLICY AND MAKE SURE TO HAVE THAT CAPTURED SO THAT IF PEOPLE CHANGE POSITIONS THAT THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY. TRUSTEE WESTON.
I AGREE, WHEN WHEN THIS COMES BACK, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT VERY PLAINLY WRITTEN ON THE AGENDA SO THAT IT'S CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE FORCE.
I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A BRIEFING.
DR. AZAIEZ, YOU WEREN'T HERE THEN, BUT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A BRIEFING ON THE BUDGET, THE OPERATIONS, THE SPENDING, ALL OF THESE DETAILS ABOUT THIS POLICE FORCE.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M AT THE ONE YEAR POINT AND AGAIN, YOU WERE NOT HERE BACK THEN.
BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
THIS IS A BIG REASON WHY I RAN FOR THIS OFFICE.
AND TO THE POINT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE THING CAN BE TRUE.
YOU KNOW, I CAN BE THE DAUGHTER OF A DECADES LONG POLICE OFFICER AND I CAN ASK HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICE FORCE.
SO ASKING HARD QUESTIONS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A LACK OF SUPPORT.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US ALL TO BE REMINDED OF THAT.
AZAIEZ, YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR THIS, BUT THIS WAS A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND TRUSTEE HARRISON, SERVED ON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY TASK FORCE.
WAS THAT OVER A YEAR OR WAS THAT? YEAH, AND I WAS NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT SHE'LL SHE KNOWS I ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE SAFETY AND SECURITY TASK FORCE MEETING.
I SAT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM AND OFTENTIMES I SAT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM BY MYSELF.
I WAS THE ONLY COMMUNITY MEMBER THERE.
I ATTENDED ALL OF THE TOWN HALLS.
REMEMBER TRUSTEE HARRISON? THERE WERE THREE TOWN HALLS.
I MEAN, THESE WERE THIS WAS A VERY CONTENTIOUS THING AND YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR THAT.
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO OFFER THAT TO YOU.
AS SOME BACKGROUND, CHIEF YARBROUGH KNOWS PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANY OF US JUST HOW HEAVILY REGULATED LAW ENFORCEMENT IS.
IT'S A VERY HEAVILY REGULATED ORGANIZATION, AND THEY'RE ALREADY SUBJECT TO AUDITS.
AM I RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE ALREADY SUBJECT TO ALL KINDS OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OUTFITS IS THAT THERE'S TYPICALLY AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AN I.A.
OUTFIT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR INCARCERATE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
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WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INTERNAL AFFAIRS, WHAT WE DO ANY TIME AN OFFICER IS ACCUSED OF A CRIMINAL OFFENSE THAT IS INVESTIGATED BY AN EXTERNAL AGENCY.WE COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE IMMEDIATELY WITH THE COUNTY OR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DEPENDING ON THE OFFENSE.
AND THEY ASSIST US IN GETTING AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO CONDUCT THAT INVESTIGATION INDEPENDENT OF OUR DEPARTMENT. OK, AND I HOPE THAT THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED WHEN WE COME BACK AND HAVE LIKE AN OVERALL POLICE FORCE AGENDA ITEM.
YOU KNOW THAT THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE INCLUDED WHEN IT'S POSTED SUCH THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE TUNING IN, YOU KNOW, TO LEARN THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND TO YOUR POINT, EARLIER CHIEF YARBROUGH ABOUT THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE WE AS A BOARD HAVE REALISTIC UNDERSTANDING.
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OUTFIT HERE IS VERY HEAVILY REGULATED, SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TELLING THESE POLICE OFFICERS WHAT TO DO.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE REPORTING TO THE COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE NOT, RIGHT CHIEF YARBROUGH, THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.
NOW WHAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD IS FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND I ONLY REALLY KNOW IF THE OVERSIGHT IS THE RIGHT WORD.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON I THINK UNLESS YOU'VE WORKED IN A LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A COMMITTEE IN PLACE TO REVIEW DATA POINTS, TO ASK QUESTIONS.
RIGHT? I MEAN, TO JUST BE A LIAISON OR SOME SORT OF ACCESS.
BUT CHIEF YARBROUGH, COULD YOU JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT HOW HEAVILY REGULATED LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AND WHAT THE REALITIES OF OPPORTUNITIES OF SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE MIGHT BE? SO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ARE REGULATED BY AN OPEN AUDITS ARE CONDUCTED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH, SORRY, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WHEN WE STARTED THE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAME IN AND DID AN INITIAL AUDIT AND DID THE WALKTHROUGH. WE GOT APPROVAL.
WE GOT ACCREDITATION ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AFTER THAT, THEY CAME IN DID A SECOND SURPRISE AUDIT.
THOSE AUDITS ARE UNANNOUNCED AND THEY GO THROUGH A LIST OF CRITERIA AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO DETERMINE IF YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY, WHEN YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE, WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING.
THEY LOOK AT THINGS DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT A PERSON'S CRIMINAL HISTORY WAS RUN WITH THROUGH NOT ONLY TCIC, BUT THE FEDERAL FBI DATABASE.
AND IF YOU SO, THERE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED PLUS DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DATA POINTS THAT THEY LOOK AT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
AND ANY ONE OF THOSE CAN BE WILL BE IF YOU MISS OUT ON ONE, IT'S A DEFICIENCY.
THEY SPENT FIVE OR SIX HOURS WITH US DOING OUR AUDIT.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO HERE IN THIS DISTRICT.
THERE'S A REASON WHY PEOPLE LOOK AT US AND WANT TO COME AND SHADOW THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WORK FOR US, WHO ARE FORMER TEXAS RANGERS, WHO FORMERLY WORKED FOR A CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO FORMERLY WORKED FOR PORTLAND, MAINE, WHO FORMERLY WORKED FOR TUCSON, ARIZONA.
THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE CHIEFS CONTACTING US, ASKING IF WE CAN SEND PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT MAKE OUR CUT TO COME AND WORK FOR THEM.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THE TEXAS SCHOOL SAFETY CENTER WANTS THE ROUND ROCK ISD POLICE DEPARTMENTS MODEL TO BE THE MODEL FOR THE TRAINING THAT'S PROVIDED TO SCHOOL BASED LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY FROM AROUND THE STATE.
NOT ONLY ARE WE, IS THERE OVERSIGHT BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE ALSO HAVE OVERSIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO IF THERE ARE CRIMINAL OFFENSES THAT OCCURRED.
NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE TEXAS RANGERS, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE COUNTY OR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES TO PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT OR THAT INVESTIGATIVE INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IF YOU VIOLATE SOMEONE'S RIGHTS, YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AS WELL.
SO THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE ALIGNED THAT CREATE A GUIDELINE FOR US AS LAW. AND I HATE TO INTERRUPT.
BUT I THINK THE REASON FOR ALL OF THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE A GUN AND A BADGE, AND THAT'S A LOT OF POWER.
AND SO OUR LEGISLATORS FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL DOWN TO THE STATE LEVEL PUT IN PLACE A LOT OF OVERSIGHT AND REGULATORY MECHANISMS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE..
CAN I JUST BECAUSE THE ONLY OVERSIGHT I HEARD THERE AND MAYBE EVERYBODY CAN HELP ME.
THE ONLY OVERSIGHT I HEARD WAS THIS AUDIT.
THAT'S THE ONLY AUDIT. WELL, THERE'S ALSO HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, THOUGH THAT WOULD ALERT PEOPLE WHO WERE OVERSEEING AND SEEING SOME OF THIS DATA COME ACROSS.
YEAH BUT THE ONLY PERSON THAT CHECKS, THAT'S THE AUDITOR.
NO, WE ALSO HAVE PRESENT THERE.
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I'M SORRY. WHAT IS YOUR POINT? LIKE, I THINK WE I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE POSTED FOR THIS AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED.LIKE, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT TOPIC TO HAVE FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT WE MIGHT BE.
I KEPT LOOKING OVER AT LINDSEY.
I WAS I WAS WONDERING, I THINK THAT WE'RE TEETERING ON THE EDGE HERE.
BUT DOESN'T THIS GO INTO I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE POLICY ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
WE YES, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I I THINK THAT THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE FEEDBACK ABOUT THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I DON'T KNOW HOW PRODUCTIVE IT IS RIGHT NOW TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THIS POLICY, JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BOARD IS AND WHAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION MOVING FORWARD IS.
AND I'LL BE VERY FRANK ABOUT MY ONE CONCERN HERE.
FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, IT'S WORSE TO HAVE NO POLICY THAN AN IMPERFECT POLICY THAT WE NEED TO FIX. SO ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE REMOVED FROM THIS POLICY? BECAUSE SO FAR ALL I'VE HEARD ARE THINGS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, REMOVE FIVE AND SIX, TWEAK EIGHT.
BUT WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT REMOVED? LIKE, I GET THAT THIS IS NOT.
THE POLICY THAT YOU WANT TO BE THE FINAL VERSION OF THE POLICY, BUT I'M HEARING THINGS YOU WANT TO ADD THAT YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT AND NOT AS MUCH ABOUT WHAT ELSE YOU WANT TO REMOVE.
AND SO I I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, FROM WHERE I'M SITTING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A POLICY THAT YOU THEN WORK ON BUILDING OFF OF AND TWEAKING RATHER THAN NO POLICY REGARDING YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. I THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE OF TRUST HERE AND THAT MAY BE THE BARRIER.
HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE I'VE HEARD YOU LOUDLY AND CLEARLY THAT WE CAN SEND OUR QUESTIONS, WE CAN SEND OUR CONCERNS, AND THAT WILL BE WORKED INTO THE SECOND READING OF THIS.
AND SO I THINK PERHAPS IN ORDER TO BE PRODUCTIVE, WE SHOULD MOVE TO THE OTHER POLICIES KNOWING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS WITH YOU, HOPEFULLY IN A TIMELY FASHION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
OK, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS IN THE POLICY, WOULD YOU ALL CONSIDER SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF A POLICY THAT INCORPORATED SOME OF THOSE? CAN I ADD SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP, AND I THINK IT MUST ALREADY BE DONE? SO THERE'S THESE THINGS CALLED REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THEY MUST ALREADY BE DONE. SO IF WE COULD GET THOSE REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS THAT ALREADY EXIST, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE RUNNING ON REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS OBVIOUSLY INSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN.
SO WITH ALL THIS AUDITING THE WAY THEY DO THE REPORTING, ALL OF THIS HOPEFULLY IS WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE.
IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT, LIKE WHAT IS THERE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? I'M HOPING THESE ARE ALL WRITTEN DOWN.
AND IF THEY ARE, I IF I HAD THAT ALONG WITH THIS POLICY, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
BUT JUST HAVING THIS POLICY AND NOT HAVING THOSE REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS TO ME IS STILL REALLY QUESTIONABLE.
CAN. OK, SO LET ME JUST TRY TO SUM IT UP FOR THE STAFF.
SO REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS TO THE BOARD.
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND EVEN MAYBE YOUR DISPROPORTIONALITY TRUSTEE HARRISON ARE ADDITIONS TO THIS POLICY.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S REMOVING IS FIVE, SIX AND TWEAKING EIGHT.
IF THEY'RE DRESSED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THOSE REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY, I THINK, MAYBE NEED TO ADD THEM TO POLICY.
BUT THAT HAS BEEN MY POINT THIS WHOLE TIME.
WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTEXT FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
RIGHT. SO I THINK IF WE COULD GET THE REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS TO EVERYBODY AND THEN IT WOULD THE FULL BOARD TO MS. MCPHEETER'S POINT IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TWEAK IS JUST ADDING THE OVERSIGHT AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY, WHICH I THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SIGNIFICANT LEGAL HURDLES TO THAT. WOULD THE BOARD AGREE AFTER THEY'VE REVIEWED REGULATIONS AND EXHIBITS WITH THOSE TWO REMOVALS, ONE TWEAK.
TO BRING IT BACK ON THE 18TH FOR A READING SO THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST SOME POLICY, RIGHT, THAT THAT YOU CAN CHANGE AT A LATER DATE, IT IS THE BOARD'S POLICY.
I JUST HAVE A REAL HARD TIME STOMACHING HAVING NO POLICY FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ALL.
I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT IT BEING AN ISSUE OF TRUST.
BUT I MEAN, I SAY, BRING IT FORWARD AT THAT TIME, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. WE'RE GOING TO GET CLARITY AND THEN WE BRING IT FORWARD AND WE CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT VOTING TODAY.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR IT IN A SECOND READING, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'VE KIND OF WORKED OUT SOME POSSIBILITIES OR GOTTEN MORE INFORMATION THAT MAKES THIS MAYBE FEEL MORE PRODUCTIVE ON THIS ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE DEBATING IT ANY LONGER TONIGHT, RIGHT? MS. FELLER, DID YOU ONE LAST THING?
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YEAH, THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY ON THIS IS PERHAPS A LINE IN THERE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER ABOUT HOW THINGS CAN SOMETIMES BE A LITTLE MORE REPETITIVE IN SOME POLICY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES AND MAYBE MENTIONING THE REGULATIONS IN THE POLICY JUST SO THAT ANYBODY THAT WERE TO PULL UP THIS POLICY ALSO KNOWS THERE'S THIS WHOLE OTHER SET OF REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING.I MEAN, REGULATIONS ARE NOT APPROVED BY BOARD, BUT JUST HAVING A LINE IN THIS POLICY.
IF THE REGULATIONS SATISFY THE CONCERNS, HAVING A LINE IN THE POLICY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, AS GUIDED BY THE REGULATION.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT OK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OK, SO RELATED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT POLICY IS DEC AND WHAT THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THERE IS THE NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH DAYS THAT IT WANTS TO PROVIDE FOR MENTAL HEALTH LEAVE FOR OFFICERS.
SENATE BILL 1359 REQUIRED MENTAL HEALTH WEEK FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
SO DOES CHIEF DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? SO CAN I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT MOST DISTRICTS ARE DOING THREE DAYS OR FIVE DAYS IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT AS A STARTING POINT FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.
I GUESS I WOULD STILL ASK, CHIEF, IF YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ASSISTANT CHIEF WILLOUGHBY AND I WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER WAS THAT THAT WAS THE RANGE THAT WE'VE TYPICALLY SEEN IS THREE TO FIVE DAYS.
AND YOU FEEL THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A SUFFICIENT START.
I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN SET AS THE PRECEDENCE ALREADY.
TRUSTEE BONE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT BECAUSE I HAVE IT'S QUARANTINE LEAVE THAT I HAVE COMMENTS ON, I WOULD PROBABLY FAVOR THREE DAYS.
I JUST THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD NUMBER.
TRUSTEE WESTON, DID YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF DAYS? SO, LINDSEY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU SAID DEC.
RIGHT, SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT PAGE NINE? YES. AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED.
MM HMM. AND YOU SAID THERE IS A RECENT LEGISLATION THAT MANDATES THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER, COULD BE ONE? I BELIEVE SO. CHIEF YARBROUGH, YES, YES, IT COULD BE.
OK. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A TRAUMATIC EVENT? WHO DECIDES THAT? WELL, IT IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SITUATION, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A IF AN OFFICER WENT OUT ON THE SCENE AND THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THAT OFFICER, OR IF THE OFFICER WAS, GOD FORBID, INVOLVED IN AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OR IF A STUDENT WAS INJURED IN A WAY THAT IMPACTED THAT OFFICER.
IS IT KIND OF UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AS THE CHIEF? WHAT A TRAUMATIC EVENT IS.
I THINK IT'S LARGELY BASED UPON THAT OFFICER'S RESPONSE TO THAT SITUATION AND HOW HIS OR HIS OR HER MENTAL CAPACITY HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT'S ARTICULATED TO US AS A AGENCY.
AND IF WE ASSIGN AN...TRUSTEE WESTON, IT'S RIGHT THERE BY THE WAY, IT'S IT'S NUMBER ONE, IT'S THE SUPERINTENDENT DEVELOPS THE REGULATIONS REGARDING MENTAL HEALTH, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE REASONS UNDER WHICH A PEACE OFFICER MAY USE MENTAL HEALTH LEAVE.
SO IT IS THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IF WE PUT A NUMBER IN THERE, IS IT SET OR IS IT COULD WE PUT UP TO? IT SAYS A MAXIMUM MAXIMUM.
OH, I SEE. OK, SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS BASED ON THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REGULATIONS AS TO WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD QUALIFY.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN POLICE OFFICERS GO THROUGH SOME EXTREMELY TRAUMATIC EVENTS WHERE THEY'RE OFF FOR WEEKS AND DESERVEDLY SO.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RIGHT NUMBER IS CHIEF? AGAIN, I THINK THE BASELINE OF THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER THAT I'VE SEEN OTHER AGENCIES MOVE TOWARDS WAS THE THREE TO FIVE DAY RANGE.
AND THERE'S THERE ARE SOMETIMES IF YOU'VE GOT SOME SITUATIONS THAT THAT MAY RESULT IN, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, AN OFFICER TAKING FMLA OR SICK LEAVE FOR SOMETHING, THOSE OPTIONS EXIST ALREADY IN SCHOOL SETTINGS IN THIS DISTRICT.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. DID YOU HAVE A NUMBER? YES, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GO WITH FIVE, SINCE IT SAYS SHALL BE GRANTED A MAXIMUM OF FIVE.
I THINK GOING WITH THE MOST ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY AND DISCRETION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD CAP IT AT THE LOWEST AMOUNT, NOT KNOWING WHAT THIS SITUATION COULD BE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I MEAN, FIVE, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE OFFICERS, THAT IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SOME TRAUMA WE MIGHT NEED, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM TO TAKE THOSE DAYS AND NOT NECESSARILY BE THE PERSON IN OUR SCHOOL THAT MIGHT HAVE TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT READY TO RESPOND TO.
SO AT FIVE. YEAH, WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION, BUT JUST AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR HER TO BRING
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BACK. NO PROBLEM.SO CAN I MOVE? CAN I CHANGE OVER TO QUARANTINE LEAVE? I WAS ACTUALLY THE QUARANTINE LEAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT IT COMES FROM HOUSE BILL TWENTY SEVENTY THREE.
OK, SO I WAS LOOKING AT OTHER DISTRICTS, AND I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT...
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? IT'S THE SAME ONE, IT'S NINE OF 12.
IT'S RIGHT BELOW THE MENTAL HEALTH.
SO WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FROM THAT BILL, YOU KNOW? IT REQUIRES THAT A DISTRICT POLICE OFFICER SO AN SRO EMPLOYED BY THE DISTRICT BE GRANTED QUARANTINE LEAVE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THEIR OTHER LEAVE BALANCES.
SO I GUESS IT'S JUST THE ONLY ISSUE I HAD WITH THIS IS THAT, IF I RECALL, WE DON'T PROVIDE THIS TO OUR TEACHERS.
WE DID, I THINK WE GAVE THEM 10 DAYS, WELL, WE GAVE THEM 10 DAYS.
THIS IS IF YOU READ IT, THIS IS IF THEY JUST POSSIBLY IF THERE HAVE TO BE ISOLATED DUE TO POSSIBLE OR KNOWN EXPOSURE.
SO THIS ISN'T AND I DON'T THINK I MEAN, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ASKED BY OUR TEACHERS BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I COULD REMEMBER WRONG.
BUT I REMEMBER THAT 10 DAYS, I BELIEVE IT WAS 10 DAYS THAT WE GAVE THEM WAS IF THEY HAD COVID. THIS IS NOT THAT THIS IS JUST ISOLATION QUARANTINE.
SO BUT IT SAYS WHEN ORDERED BY THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY OR THE POLICE OFFICER'S SUPERVISOR, SO THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY JUST SAY, WELL, I WAS WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAD THE FLU.
I'M NOT GOING TO COME TO WORK LIKE IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY EITHER THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR THEIR SUPERVISOR.
YEAH, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE TO GIVE THIS, BUT IT JUST SEEMS ODD THAT I MEAN, IT DID THE STATE LAW, LINDSAY ACTUALLY USE THE WORD QUARANTINE? IT DOES. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE TITLE OF THE LAW.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE BILL, DOES IT SAY LIKE, WHO DOES THAT? BECAUSE.
I'M HAPPY TO SEND AROUND THE TEXT OF THE BILL TO TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS FAIR BECAUSE I MEAN, I MEAN, TEACHERS ARE AROUND STUDENTS AND PROBABLY COULD PROBABLY USE THE QUARANTINE MORE THAN ANYBODY.
SO JUST TRYING TO TREAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES THE SAME AND FAIRLY.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S INTERESTING BILLS THAT APPLY TO THIS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A SITUATION THAT'S UNFAIR.
I DO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE BEHOLDEN TO THE LAWS THE LEGISLATURE PASSES TOO.
TRUSTEE HARRISON AND THEN TRUSTEE WESTON, I FELT YOU WERE COMING TO ME, SORRY, I I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH THE TEACHERS.
IT SEEMS WEIRD THAT THIS WOULD BE A THING, BUT WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT POLICY RIGHT NOW.
SO CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE FORWARD? I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS IS COMING UP AND IT'S LEGISLATED. BUT IF WE FEEL THAT STRONGLY THAT WE MAY BE AT A LATER DATE POLL AND LOOK AT TEACHER LEAVE POLICY.
SURE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD INHIBIT US FROM MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
TRUSTEE WESTON. SO IF THIS IS, WHY WOULD THIS NOT BE IN DEC LEGAL, THEN IF THIS IS DRIVEN BY A HOUSE BILL? YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, I CAN CERTAINLY ASK TASB WHERE THAT UPDATE. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT SPEAKS TO POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICERS SPECIFICALLY WITH QUARANTINE.
AND I'LL SEND THAT BILL OR THAT LEGISLATION AROUND.
WELL, WHAT WAS IT? DO YOU MEAN REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS? HOUSE BILL 2073. HB 2073.
I JUST HAVE TO SAY, TRUSTEE VESSA IS GOING TO WATCH THIS AND GO CRAZY THAT SHE WASN'T HERE TO BE ABLE TO TO TELL US ABOUT THIS BILL.
I THINK THAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER LIGHTS, I THINK THE OTHER ONE MS. MCPHEETERS WAS CKE LOCAL, GKA OR CKE? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. YES.
SO THIS IS A POLICY WE'RE BRINGING FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS.
LIKE I SAID, IT PROPOSES PROHIBITING SURREPTITIOUS RECORDING OF DISTRICT EMPLOYEES OR VOLUNTEERS. THIS IS A QUESTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GETS QUITE FREQUENTLY THAT THE BOARD HAS NEVER PROVIDED GUIDANCE ON.
SO IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE IT UP TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
THIS IS NOT A POLICY THAT HAS TO BE ADOPTED AT THE NEXT READING.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT, WE CAN.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN DO THAT.
IT'S UP TO YOU TO THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.
TRUSTEE FELLER AND THEN TRUSTEE WESTON.
CAN YOU ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN INCONGRUENCE BETWEEN THIS POLICY AND OUR STATE
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LAW WHERE IT BEING A ONE PARTY VIDEOTAPE? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CRIMINAL LIKE THE PENAL CODE FOR WIRETAPPING AND THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR WIRETAPPING? NO THERE, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ONE PARTY CAN RECORD AS LONG AS ONE PARTY IS AWARE OF IT, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DOES THIS? IN ORDER TO AVOID CRIMINAL LIABILITY AND CIVIL LIABILITY, BUT THAT DOESN'T PROHIBIT A SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM IMPOSING LIMITATIONS ON THE EXPECTATION THAT ONE NOT SURREPTITIOUSLY RECORD? YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THAT RIGHT? LEANDER, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES THIS.THIS IS ACTUALLY EXACTLY TAKEN FROM THEIR POLICY.
TRUSTEE, YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP.
TRUSTEE WESTON. YOU SAID THAT YOU GET THIS QUESTION OR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GETS THIS.
WHAT IS THE QUESTION THAT YOU GET THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GETS? DOES THE DISTRICT ALLOW PEOPLE TO RECORD ME WITHOUT TELLING ME? IS THAT THE DISTRICT'S EXPECTATION? IS THAT PERMISSIBLE? SHOULD WE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? CAN WE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? GET IT FROM TEACHERS, FROM STUDENTS, FROM PARENTS, FROM EVERYONE.
AND YOUR ANSWER OR THE ADMINISTRATION'S ANSWER IS HAS BEEN? THERE'S NO POLICY RELATED TO THAT.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY GRIEVANCES COME THROUGH ON THIS? UM. ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, YES, I HAVE SEEN GRIEVANCES COME THROUGH FOR TEACHERS WHO'VE BEEN UPSET THAT THEIR PEERS HAVE RECORDED THEM.
TEACHERS ARE UPSET THAT THEIR PEERS HAVE RECORDED THEM AUDIO, VISUAL OR BOTH OR SOME COMBINATION? OVER THE YEARS, IT'S PRIMARILY BEEN AUDIO.
OK, SO I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A YEAR.
I'VE NOT SEEN THAT. SO WAS THAT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TIME THAT YOU SAW THAT? YEAH, SO REMEMBER THAT NOT ALL GRIEVANCES COME UP TO THE BOARD.
THE VAST MAJORITY WE ARE ABLE TO RESOLVE BEFORE THEY COME TO THE BOARD.
AND NONE OF THOSE GRIEVANCES HAVE RESULTED IN A LEVEL THREE.
DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF THE GRIEVANCES THAT YOU SAW BUBBLE UP ON THIS ESCALATED TO SOMETHING CRIMINAL? NO.
OK. SO I WILL TELL YOU MY GUT ON THIS IS I'M A NO ON THIS, UNLESS THERE'S SOME SORT OF CONVINCING CASE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THE TOPIC, I HAVE TRUSTEE BONE AND THEN TRUSTEE HARRISON.
SO I MEAN, I'LL JUST SAY UP FRONT THAT, YEAH, I'M NOT FOR THIS, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
FOR ONE THING, WE ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THE OTHER THING IS, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ENFORCE THIS IN OUR WORLD TODAY.
VIRTUAL EDUCATION, WE WERE ALL VIRTUAL FOR A YEAR.
THE TEACHERS ON THE COMPUTER, THE KIDS AT HOME, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ENFORCE THIS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BECAUSE IT HAS DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEER.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ENFORCE THIS.
AND I'M NOT FOR SURE THAT WE CAN PROHIBIT, YOU KNOW, RECORDING OF STUDENTS.
I KNOW EVERY YEAR I HAVE TO FILL OUT FORMS, BUT THIS WOULD THIS WOULD SAY THAT WHEN I'M AT MY KID, LIKE IF I GO TO A DAY PROGRAM AT SCHOOL, I CAN'T RECORD THEM BECAUSE, RIGHT, THAT'S DURING THE SCHOOL DAY AND YOU COULDN'T RECORD THEM.
I JUST THINK THERE'S ALL THESE IF ANDS THIS AND IF THERE'S THIS EXPECTATION THAT TEACHERS ARE STAFF OR STUDENTS ARE NEVER GOING TO BE VIDEOTAPED OR AUDIO RECORDED, I THINK THAT EXPECTATION IS JUST IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S VERY UNREASONABLE.
AND I KNOW WE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS.
I MEAN, I KNOW HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECORD THEIR TEACHERS IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING THAT.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S EVER THAT TIME OR EVEN IF TWO, IF TWO STUDENTS ARE FIGHTING, THIS WOULD PROHIBIT ANOTHER STUDENT OR A TEACHER FROM RECORDING IT.
SO THERE'S ALL THESE SITUATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S BOTH GOOD ONES, RIGHT, WHEN I'M AT MY KIDS DAY PROGRAM AND I WANT TO REPORT IT, THAT'S A GOOD REASON.
AH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FIGHT THAT'S A BAD REASON, BUT THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT REASONS WHERE RECORDING BOTH VISUAL AND AUDIO.
I JUST I'M SO IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
IT'S NOT PROHIBITING ANY RECORDING.
IT'S PROHIBITING RECORDING WITHOUT CONSENT.
SO JUST THAT ONE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
SO RECORDING WITHOUT CONSENT AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A POLICY DECISION WHERE THE BOARD HAS TO DECIDE WHERE THEY COME DOWN ON THIS POLICY BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE ARGUMENTS ON EITHER SIDE. I KNOW WHERE I FALL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ALL FALL, AND SO WE ARE OPENING
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IT UP FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE A TRUSTEE, BONE AND WESTON FALL ON THE SIDE OF NO, THIS IS A BAD IDEA.WELL, CAN I JUST BUT CAN I CLARIFY BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAS TO BE CLARIFIED? HOW DO YOU GIVE CONSENT? I MEAN, DO I HAVE TO GO UP AND ASK EVERY TEACHER IF TWO KIDS ARE FIGHTING? DOES THE OTHER STUDENTS HAVE TO GO UP AND BE LIKE, HEY, BUDDIES, CAN I RECORD YOU? I MEAN, WHAT IS CONSENT? AND THEN WHO GIVES CONSENT, RIGHT? LIKE, DO I HAVE TO GO UP TO ALL MY KID? YOU KNOW, MY MY ALL THE KIDS IN MY DAUGHTER'S TEAM OR WHATEVER AND BE LIKE, HEY, CAN I RECORD YOUR KID? DO I HAVE CONSENT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I MEAN, I THINK THIS GETS VERY FUZZY.
I THINK IF THIS IS MY ONLY, MY MY FEAR IS IS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT MY FEAR IS THAT IF WE PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK THEY'RE PROTECTED AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHEN THERE'S CONSENT, WHEN THERE'S NOT CONSENT? I JUST THINK IT GETS WAY TOO MESSY IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, TOO.
WOULD THAT BE CREATING EXTRA WORK? AND THEN I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, MS. MCPHEETERS, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE.
SURE. SO AS WITH ANYTHING AND ANY OTHER VIOLATION OF DISTRICT POLICY, WE WOULD ENFORCE IT THE SAME WAY FOR STUDENTS THAT MAY LOOK AT MAY LOOK LIKE A VIOLATION OF POLICY THAT RESULTS IN LOOKING AT THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR EMPLOYEES.
WE WOULD ENFORCE IT THE WAY WE WOULD ENFORCE OTHER VIOLATIONS OF POLICY FOR EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER IN A VACUUM.
BUT WE WOULD ENFORCE THE POLICY THE SAME WAY WE ENFORCE ANY OTHER.
KIND OF VIOLATION OF DISTRICT POLICY.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE VARYING LEVELS, TOO, OF WHEN YOU VIOLATE A POLICY, WHAT THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE IS.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WITH RESPECT TO MY LEGAL OPINION, I WILL TELL YOU THAT.
AS PROPOSED, THE POLICY DOES NOT VIOLATE THE LAW, BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK THIS IS A POLICY DECISION THAT THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE.
OR THAT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON RATHER, I DO THINK THERE ARE COMPELLING ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES AND YOU KNOW, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT ADVICE IT IS THAT YOU WANT OR WHAT OPINION IT IS THAT YOU WANT.
IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MY POLICY OPINION, MY POLICY OPINION IS THAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD SET THE EXPECTATION THAT PEOPLE TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE RECORDING YOU, THEY ASK FOR YOUR CONSENT. THAT'S WHERE I COME DOWN, BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE.
THAT'S THE BOARD'S. THANK YOU.
MS. MCPHEETERS DID YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHY LEANDER, YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS COPIED FROM LEANDER? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE HAD IT AND DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKGROUND ON THEIR USE OF THIS POLICY? I KNOW THEY HAVE HAD IT FOR A FEW YEARS.
I CAN LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED.
IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING SIMILAR ISSUES RELATED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT RECORDING ON CAMPUSES, PEOPLE SURREPTITIOUSLY RECORDING OTHERS.
I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU KNOW HAS IT HAD ANY EFFECT? I MEAN, HOW BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT? YOU KNOW, IF LEANDER HAD IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, HOW HAVE THEY BEEN ABLE TO ENFORCE IT? HAS IT HAD A CHILLING EFFECT, ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FROM OUR NEIGHBOR? SO ALL I KNOW IS ANECDOTALLY IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT, I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS WHO WORKED IN LEGAL SERVICES WHO PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN LANDER FOUND THIS TO BE A VERY HELPFUL POLICY TO HAVE IN PLACE.
UM SO, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF SPECIFICS, LIKE HAS IT CHILLED THE NUMBER OF GRIEVANCES, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I IF IT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE, I CAN TRY TO GET THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE FULL BOARD.
TRUSTEE BONE. I GUESS MAYBE WOULD HELP US ALL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS CAME FROM, LIKE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO STOP LIKE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FIX WITH THIS POLICY? ARE WE TRYING TO FIX PARENTS FROM RECORDING TEACHERS, TEACHERS FROM RECORDING TEACHERS OR STAFF RECORDING STAFF, STUDENTS RECORDING TEACHERS, I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FIX WITH THIS POLICY? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
IF I KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS, THEN MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESOLVE IT.
SO WE'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL OF THE ABOVE.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT AND IT GOES BACK TO TRUSTEE HARRISON'S, WHAT CAN WE
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IMPLEMENT IF A PARENT RECORDS A TEACHER? I MEAN THERE IS OTHER LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE WE CAN'T NOT KEEP THEM ALL OF THEIR KIDS.SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I JUST DON'T WANT POLICIES WITHOUT TEETH.
I MEAN, AND IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT STAFF DOESN'T RECORD STAFF, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, RIGHT? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DR.
AZAIEZ COULD ACTUALLY JUST IMPLEMENT WITHOUT POLICY.
SO I MEAN, I'M INTERESTED IN THIS.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S A NEED, I DEFINITELY WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND IF WE CAN FIX IT, I MEAN, I CAN'T FIX A PARENT RECORDING A STAFF MEMBER. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS HELPS.
AND I DON'T WANT AND I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, TOO, IS I DON'T WANT THE STAFF TO THINK THAT WE FIXED IT. AND THEN THE NEXT TIME THEY'RE RECORDED, THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT THAT PARENTS ARE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY CAN'T DO.
OK. SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK IS THE BOARD, WOULD THE BOARD PREFER THAT WE NOT BRING THIS POLICY BACK FOR SECOND READING.
TRUSTEE FELLER HAS HER LIGHT ON, SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FIRST.
I HAVE TO SAY I AM LEANING TOWARDS AGREEING WITH TRUSTEE.
BONE AND WESTON, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT.
OK, BACK UP. I HAVE BEEN RECORDED WITHOUT MY CONSENT.
AND AGAIN, I GO TO WHAT TRUSTEE BONE IS SAYING, AND SHE MAKES A VERY VALID POINT IS HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS? YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT CODE OF CONDUCT WHEN IT COMES TO A STUDENT DOING IT.
BUT IF A PARENT'S ON OUR CAMPUS, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THAT.
YOU KNOW, AND I JUST, I THINK YOU MAKE SOME REALLY VALID POINTS OF, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL BUILDING WHERE YOU CAN EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE THINGS NOT RECORDED, NOT IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
I MEAN, WE'RE RECORDED EVERYWHERE WE GO.
I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE RECORDING US RIGHT NOW WHO ARE IN THE ROOM, AND I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PART OF IT, AND I JUST KIND OF GET USED TO IT, OK? YOU JUST KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING IT EVERY MOMENT AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING BEHIND THIS ONE.
OK, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONSENSUS IS DO NOT BRING THIS POLICY BACK.
I HAVE TWO. I HAVE TRUSTEE HARRISON AND NOW I SEE YOUR BUTTON TRUSTEE WESTON.
TRUSTEE HARRISON. JUST QUICKLY, I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL MORE TO THINK ABOUT ON IT.
SO I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN BRINGING IT FORWARD AND WE VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
THESE WON'T BE VOTED ON CONSENT, CORRECT? OR WILL THEY? THEY USUALLY ARE ON CONSENT.
SO IF YOU JUST PUT IT, WE COULD PULL IT FROM CONSENT ANYWAY AND VOTE SEPARATELY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO PROBABLY WORK ON PULLING THINGS FROM CONSENT AHEAD OF TIME.
I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN PUTTING IT JUST SO THAT WE CAN EITHER ESTABLISH, YES, WE SUPPORT THIS OR NO, WE DON'T. OK.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TRUSTEE VESSA HERE.
DID I SAY WESTON AND I MEANT VESSA? OK, I SAID THAT SO WESTON SORRY, IT'S GETTING LATE.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ABOVE THIS PROPOSED AUDIO VIDEO RECORDING ON IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS A TEXAS HANDGUN LICENSE HOLDER STORES A HANDGUN OR OTHER FIREARM IN A LOCKED VEHICLE IN A PARKING LOT, ETC.
WITH THE PASSAGE THIS SESSION, RATHER THAN IN THE REGULAR SESSION OF HOUSE BILL 1927, WHICH WAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
TO ME, THIS IS AN OUT THIS IS OUTDATED LANGUAGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A HANDGUN LICENSE ANY LONGER.
MS. MCPHEETERS, DO YOU SEE ANY VALUE IN UPDATING THAT? OR I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANY MORE LIGHTS.
OK, SO I THINK YOU HAVE ALL THAT YOU NEED FROM US, HOPEFULLY MS. MCPHEETERS ON THOSE TWO RIGHT.
I DO. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA.
SO IT IS 10:05, AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.